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- 0:01The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start your day
- 0:06and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show, Tuesday morning, seventh day
- 0:13of November. I'm Wes. Thanks for joining me. A couple of weeks
- 0:18away from Thanksgiving, now, a couple of weeks away. Happening fast,
- 0:24man, it's happening fast. We're on that really rapid downhill, like on
- 0:28a bike with no brakes. Man, We're going downhill fast into the holidays.
- 0:32But here we go. All right, I want to talk a little
- 0:35bit about a trend that is growing now in the country, and I think
- 0:44that it is safe to say that it started. I mean, it's something
- 0:50that's been going on for a while, but the trend of all of this
- 0:54has led to a bigger problem that we're currently experiencing. I know I'm speaking
- 0:59in real at this point. Let me just dive into this, but go
- 1:03back to the point where rowdy, out of control protests that featured violent acts
- 1:15was encouraged. And I'm not just talking about just allowed to happen. I'm
- 1:19talking about when violent acts were encouraged to take place at protests under the guise
- 1:27of them being peaceful protests. I'm talking about businesses being destroyed, businesses being
- 1:36burned down. This sort of thing has happened obviously in the past. I
- 1:41can reference specific points in my lifetime when I saw them happen and I thought,
- 1:45oh my gosh, this is bad, this is horrible, and it's
- 1:51one of those things where you think you sort of get fight, well you
- 1:55don't, sort of. You get very frustrated when you realize the long term
- 1:59effect of something that happens, even in these isolated situations. Think back to
- 2:06the Rodney King riots that happened and how completely out of control things got.
- 2:16People were angry, people were upset. A certain amount of people I think
- 2:22understood a little bit the anger and frustration that people felt. But ultimately,
- 2:28the actions of people that were carrying out violent acts and committing violent crimes in
- 2:34the process that they're protesting were looked down upon. It wasn't looked at as,
- 2:38oh my gosh, this is a positive thing, not as a consensus,
- 2:43not as a whole. There were some, I think that saw it
- 2:46that way, But this was something that happened at a point in my life
- 2:52when I wasn't fully following politics and things, so you could certainly correct me
- 2:55if I'm wrong, but my understanding at the time from people that I talked
- 3:00with on both sides of the hour, this is horrible. This is something
- 3:06that shouldn't happen. Over time, it started to become something where violence and
- 3:13violent rhetoric even was encouraged, and it was done in the name of scare
- 3:21tactics. We'll jump ahead, and I know we're skipping some incidents, but
- 3:24I want to jump ahead to the twenty twenty election, or we could even
- 3:30jump to the twenty post twenty sixteen election and go into the inauguration point.
- 3:37As people protested the presidency of Donald Trump when he was sworn in, we
- 3:40could go to that. Remember that became a thing. I don't know how
- 3:45many of those got overly violent, but they were protests that were being done
- 3:50in the name of really registering voters for next time and also making a wrong
- 4:00statement. Right, it was all that, but that's fine, make your
- 4:04strong statement without getting violent, without getting out of control. Twenty twenty was
- 4:10out of control, and we saw it happen some before twenty twenty, but
- 4:13we know what was going on. During COVID. We were all told stay
- 4:16inside, shelter in place, don't get out in the community. Don't get
- 4:23out in public. There's a risk that you're gonna kill grandma. That was
- 4:27one of the things the narratives that was pushed. If you get out in
- 4:30the community, if you get out in public with COVID going on, you're
- 4:34gonna put lives at risk. You're going to endanger the lives of fellow citizens.
- 4:42And that's what you'll do if you get out in public in any capacity.
- 4:47And then people said, well, wait a minute, there are people
- 4:49out protesting right now. They're protesting a number of things that all sort of
- 4:56tie into Black Lives Matter and tie into the election. And then this s
- 5:00eatement came out. Well that's different. I mean people have to get out
- 5:02and protest that they're not really putting anybody in danger. These large groups of
- 5:08people all conglomerated together right up around each other, shouting and screaming, sometimes
- 5:15not even wearing masks as you were telling us to wear masks. Is okay,
- 5:18Well, yeah, that's fine, there's no danger. There should have
- 5:21been a clue to us, by the way, that should have been I
- 5:25know it was for some I remember discussing that on the show. I remember
- 5:29saying wait a minute, This should be an indicator of how serious they really
- 5:32think all of this really is. But we were told they have to be
- 5:38able to get out and do that. They've got to be able to get
- 5:40out in protest. The people that are going to go protest, they need
- 5:43to do that. They need to be out setting cars on fire, they
- 5:46need to be burning down buildings. They need to be destroying businesses and neighborhoods
- 5:49and putting people's livelihoods at stake. It's not like we were already in the
- 5:55midst of this horrific pandemic that was already putting lives and livelihoods at stake.
- 6:00We doubled down on it in the name of getting rid of Donald Trump.
- 6:04That's what they wanted to do at all costs. And they wanted to scare
- 6:08people and intimidate them. So they let the riots and protest I'm sorry,
- 6:14peaceful protests aka riots. They let them get absolutely out of control in the
- 6:23name of intimidation, in the name of scaring people into thinking, oh my
- 6:29gosh, what's going to happen next? What exactly is coming for all of
- 6:35us? Where is this all going? That's what they did. They tried
- 6:41to scare us. They wanted us to be intimidated. They encouraged young people
- 6:46to get involved. They wanted more and more people to participate. They wanted
- 6:50people to make the mobs grow, because the more people there were, the
- 7:00scarier it would be. They when they thought, oh, my gosh,
- 7:03Rovy Wade maybe getting overturned. We've got this leak that has come out.
- 7:09And the leak was out, and they said, oh, people need to
- 7:11start showing up at the homes of Supreme Court justices. Let's make sure that
- 7:16we let everybody know where they live. Here's the dosing of their addresses.
- 7:20Let's have people show up there. And they did. In one case,
- 7:25someone wanted to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice. We had folks at the
- 7:29Capitol building chasing around members, at least one member of the Senate chasing her
- 7:36into the bathroom, Kirsten Cinema, because she wouldn't vote the way that people
- 7:41wanted them to vote. Things got out of control, and they were encouraged
- 7:46to get out of control. And what's happened is over the past few years,
- 7:48it's calmed down quite a bit, hasn't it. We're not an election
- 7:51year. We saw a little bit of that in the midterms. You know,
- 7:56we saw some of those things happening, but it wasn't quite in full
- 7:59force. Is it coming again? Could be same guys running for president.
- 8:03We know they're trying to get him out of there using every means necessary,
- 8:07and I don't think they would pull any punches this time. They felt like
- 8:11he was a absolute danger before. He's more of a danger to them now
- 8:15because now people realize how bad the master, how horrible of a mistake it
- 8:20was to put Joe Biden in office. I think a lot of people are
- 8:24realizing that. There's still some that don't see it that way. There's some
- 8:28that say anything is better than Donald Trump. He's the worst person ever.
- 8:33There's a lot of people that have come around on that. They're just saying,
- 8:35look, I don't necessarily like him, but I'd like to have some
- 8:39money in the bank. I'd like to be able to afford groceries. I'd
- 8:41like to think that Christmas is something that's tainable for me and my family this
- 8:45year. I'd like to think that at some point we'll be able to go
- 8:46on vacation again. I'd like to think that buying and selling a home would
- 8:50be nice in my life, or you know, purchasing a new vehicle that
- 8:54doesn't involve a battery that uses far more gallons of gasoline, more gallons of
- 9:01oil and fuel in general than any car that's currently on the road. Maybe
- 9:07not any car. There's probably some guzzling. My truck uses a lot of
- 9:11gas. I wish it used the less. I'd drive it a whole lot
- 9:13more. But people would like to experience those things again. They'd like things
- 9:18to get back to normal. But keep in mind, we were told by
- 9:22a member of the House of Representatives, aoc right, Alexandria Occasio Cortes.
- 9:31Whatever her nickname used to be, Lexi Cortes. I think she used to
- 9:35have some cool name, and then they made it very you know, gave
- 9:39her all the extra names in there, made it longer and made it sound
- 9:43more serious. Was it Alley? It was something like that. So she
- 9:52said that all the protests and riots and things, and just because Trump lost
- 9:58doesn't mean it's time for everything to calm down. There's no more brunches.
- 10:03You can't go back to life, you can't go back to having Sunday brunches.
- 10:05You have to keep the revolution moving. We have to keep the protesting
- 10:09going. We have to stay active and stay on top of things. We
- 10:13have to continue to push forward to get our agenda out there. And what's
- 10:18it led to? What's it led to? Now? We now have an
- 10:22upstart group of college students that are protesting to end Israel and to exterminate the
- 10:31Jews. We're seeing that popping up at college campuses and in cities and near
- 10:35the White House. People are protesting their bloody hands on the entrance way to
- 10:41the White House. This is what it has led to. We have a
- 10:46growing community of people that are calling for the extermination of Israel, the nation,
- 10:52and the extermination of the Jews. The anti Semitic rhetoric has grown and
- 10:58it's got out of control, and they're getting more and more support in our
- 11:03country and all sorts of places around the world. But I want to specifically
- 11:09address here because now when you see these protests and you see this anger in
- 11:16vitriol and hate, and you look at it and you say, how did
- 11:18we get to this? That's how? This is a progressive thing that has
- 11:24built. That's a double meaning there on that that's built for years to the
- 11:28point where we've encouraged people to get to this point, we've said when people
- 11:33throw molotov cocktails at police cars, that's not violence. Violence is when you
- 11:37hurt a person, burning up a police car and destroying it, not really
- 11:41paying attention to anybody's editor or not. I guess that's not violence. There's
- 11:46nothing violent about burning down a building. How's that violent. It's just going
- 11:50to come out of insurance. It's not going to hurt the people who own
- 11:54the building. It's just that insurance will cover. It's no big deal when
- 11:56we steal, when we loot, when we pillage businesses, it's just going
- 12:01to be insurance doesn't affect the people who own the businesses. It does.
- 12:05I don't know if you know how insurance works. That's exactly who it hurts,
- 12:09the people who have the insurance. You don't just file the claim and
- 12:15have zero kickback. And then what happens when businesses decide we're going to move
- 12:20on. We're not going to have a store in this town anymore. We're
- 12:26going to just pack up and leave. We'd like to think that people can
- 12:30continue to shop with us, but we're going to take it away. We
- 12:31don't want that to be an option anymore because we're tired of people stealing from
- 12:35us, and that's what's happening in parts of the country. Is it happening
- 12:41here locally, No, not in the Chattahoochee Valley. It's not happening here
- 12:46yet. Did we have protests during the twenty twenty election, Yes. Is
- 12:52it possible that we're going to see some of this rhetoric that's happening now,
- 12:56understand something the people. There are some of these protests that are peaceful.
- 13:03Okay, we went through this before, we went through this with Black Lives
- 13:09Matter. Some of those did keep peaceful protests. But one of the things
- 13:13that was the most difficult is when we saw violence being carried out, when
- 13:18we heard violent speech coming out. Okay, and there is such thing as
- 13:24violent speech. We talk about free speech, and we've talked about how you
- 13:28can't just say anything. There are words that are considered detrimental to the functional
- 13:37society that we try to live in. There's some things that we've declared we
- 13:41won't tolerate. You take former president's words out of context and you make it
- 13:46sound like he said something really hateful and really disgusting by chopping it up like
- 13:54in The Running Man, A right, Stephen King book and movie, You
- 13:58chop it up, make it sound worse than it is, and then you
- 14:01tell everybody, look, can you believe that he said this? Can you
- 14:03believe that he said these hateful things? And we say that's not We're not
- 14:09going to accept that. Why are we accepting what's happening now in the protests,
- 14:15Because even in cases where it's not necessarily violent, we had the news
- 14:18telling us that the twenty twenty Black Lives Matter protests, even while they're standing
- 14:22on a street corner fearing for their lives, as reporters going, these are
- 14:28peaceful. Yeah, there's like, there's a building over here on fire,
- 14:31and I just heard gunshots over there, and I just saw somebody run by
- 14:33with a bunch of masks and bulletproof armor on, and you a couple of
- 14:37pick axes. But I'm fine, this is all peaceful. There's a mob
- 14:43of people running around with torches. It's all fine. There's nothing going on
- 14:48here, nothing to see here. And now what we're seeing is protest signs
- 14:54that tell us they're holding up signs. I guess they're now trying to compare
- 15:01Israel to Nazi Germany. So not only are they angry protesters that are out
- 15:09of control. They're really really bad at history, really bad at it.
- 15:15Pick up a book, just thumb through it. You can find you can
- 15:18get a you can go through Wikipedia, and you can understand that is not
- 15:22But that's the nature of what we are now. Much like we've encouraged the
- 15:28violent protests over the years, especially here recently, we've also encouraged this false
- 15:35rhetoric, this silly rhetoric where anyone we don't like instantly becomes Hitler or becomes
- 15:41a Nazi. Anyone we don't like is a fascist Nazi Hitler man, right,
- 15:48anybody, if you don't like him, that's what you do, That's
- 15:52what we do. And we've allowed that to happen. Nobody stepped back and
- 15:56said, you do realize, even if you think they're on the trajectory for
- 16:00it, they're not even close, not even close to Hitler. Even if
- 16:07you can convince me that they're on that path, they're not even close.
- 16:15Like that should not be something that we say. But because we allow it
- 16:18to happen, we allow people to be called Hitler in Nazis and all these
- 16:22things. Now we've got people calling Israel Nazi Germany. They're comparing leadership in
- 16:30Israel to Hitler Hitler in Israel because we've allowed it to get to this,
- 16:41and it's growing, and the question becomes, what do we do because now
- 16:45you've even got some Democrats going, uh, it used to be on our
- 16:51side. Some of them, of course, still think this is on their
- 16:55side, but the ones in leadership that want to stay in leadership are saying,
- 17:00we're going to lose the Jewish Democrat vote. Jewish Democrats are starting to
- 17:06say that we're not going to stick by a party that's allowing this to happen.
- 17:10We're going to stick by a party that's going to be critical of Israel
- 17:15of us. We're not going to do that. And they start to see
- 17:21some of those votes slip away. They start to realize this is not going
- 17:26to go well in this next election. So they have a problem they've got
- 17:32to figure out. It's already getting out of control. When you look at
- 17:36some of the latest poll numbers that say Trump is way ahead of Biden in
- 17:41most of the swing states, way ahead. It's not even close, which
- 17:45is why they know they have to get rid of Trump. It's why they
- 17:48have to get him out of the race. That's priority number one, and
- 17:52then they can start damage control on their own selves and try to figure out
- 17:56what they're going to do about this growing sentiment of people, this next wave
- 18:03of protests, and how do they make the protests favorable to them the way
- 18:07they did in twenty twenty. That's what they're going to try to figure out
- 18:10how to do, and I don't see how that could work. Today's show
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- 21:37Morning Show right after the break. So what are your thoughts on sharing food?
- 21:51A new survey says that ten percent of respondents said that they feel strongly
- 21:56about not sharing the food that they're eating. People are especially orked when people
- 22:00help themselves to food off their plate. I mean, if you're offered it,
- 22:04that's one thing. Almost half of those surveys that it bothers them when
- 22:08people take something off their plate without asking. And how much do they hate
- 22:11other people sampling their food? Thirty percent said they would rather buy someone a
- 22:15separate meal than share theirs. Fifteen percent said they'd add an actual argument with
- 22:21someone who took food from them. When it comes to the foods that people
- 22:25are most reluctant to share, probably not a big surprise. Fries at the
- 22:29top of the list that seems like an easy one to share. I mean,
- 22:32I understand, but I mean that of all the foods, that's if
- 22:37someone wants a big cut out of my steak, that's more difficult. Or
- 22:41scooping out of, you know, my potatoes or whatever, that's a little
- 22:44different. Pizza's next on the list, ice cream and chocolate. When people
- 22:48say they least want to share their food with coworkers than friends and then siblings,
- 22:55that all sounds about right. A new survey found eighty four percent of
- 22:59gens and millennials have been ghosted by someone. Seventy five percent of the young
- 23:03adult surveyed said that it's acceptable to ghost others, even though maybe they've already
- 23:07been through it, even if it can hurt others. Two thirds of those
- 23:12who have been ghosted admitted to ghosting someone themselves, and they say that that
- 23:19now has a name reciprocal ghosting, so you can ghost someone back or whatever,
- 23:23just pay them back for it. Those who ghosts say they don't regret
- 23:29it as much as the relief of moving on. I guess eighty six percent
- 23:33of people, ninety one percent of women said that they felt relieved after they
- 23:37ghosted someone. Of all the pet piece people have when flying, Switching seats
- 23:41is moving up to the top of the list is worst offenses, and they
- 23:47say people I guess aren't necessarily booking a seat so that they can sit where
- 23:53you know, they choose when they're doing the booking. They just want to
- 23:56get on the plane and try to figure out the best seat that they want
- 23:59that's available. And apparently also people ask to swap so they can sit next
- 24:03to their travel companion. About half the travelers say it's not okay to switch
- 24:07seats at all. According to a poll from Kayak, fifty four percent approve
- 24:12switching seats, but only if you ask politely. No, that seems fair,
- 24:17they're just asking to switch. Sixty four percent said they would not allow
- 24:22sweet such seat switching if just because they claim their nervous flyers. Seventy seven
- 24:29percent said they wouldn't switch with someone if they simply just don't like their assigned
- 24:33seat. So here's the thing on the seat swapping. Okay, this is
- 24:37my just thoughts on this. I think that if you are somehow downgrading your
- 24:45seat while asking to switch, I think that seems reasonable. I think the
- 24:51person that's trying to switch, like if someone is sitting in between, like
- 24:56two burly guys. You know, I've sat between people on really long international
- 25:02flights. It's not fun. If you're very cramped and you're in a middle
- 25:06seat and you're asking someone else who maybe has a better seat, whether a
- 25:11window or an aisle seat, to switch with you. That's not reasonable.
- 25:15I don't think that's a fair request, you know, I don't think that's
- 25:18okay. I mean, you can ask, you certainly can ask, But
- 25:22I don't think you should be upset when someone says no, because you're then
- 25:26they and especially if they went to the trouble of picking the aisle or window
- 25:30seat for their trip and that's what they want, that's reasonable for them to
- 25:36say no. It isn't that a reasonable thing? Now? You can ask.
- 25:38Anybody should be able to ask, hey, do you mind? I
- 25:41want to sit with them? But we do have too many options now on
- 25:45pre planning the seats. You know, you get a chance just to pick
- 25:49whatever seat you want when you book the flight. That's an option for you.
- 25:52If you choose not to do it, you may get stuck with a
- 25:56bad seat. That's just the reality. That'll do it. For this Tuesday
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