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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:10The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast,
- 0:14where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:16and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:20In today's episode,
- 0:21we are continuing with the Parent Companion series,
- 0:24and I would like to introduce
- 0:26a visual concept
- 0:28for
- 0:29what happens
- 0:31before child-centered play therapy
- 0:33and after child-centered play therapy
- 0:36in terms of the child's behavior and
- 0:40the levels of what goes on in a child's world,
- 0:42pre-therapy and post therapy.
- 0:45And I know probably that introduction didn't even make any sense.
- 0:48I promise it will at the end.
- 0:50So,
- 0:50one of the things that I strive to do,
- 0:52one of the things that I train other therapists to do
- 0:55is to come up with
- 0:56metaphors and stories
- 0:58and analogies
- 0:59and insight that helps parents that really know very little about
- 1:04child-centered play therapy or maybe even play therapy as a whole.
- 1:07How can you illustrate something in a way
- 1:10that someone without the knowledge and the training.
- 1:13They can see it or hear it or listen to it and go,
- 1:16yes,
- 1:17OK,
- 1:17I get that.
- 1:18And this,
- 1:19what I'm about to share with you is one of those illustrations.
- 1:23I typically draw it.
- 1:25So when I'm sitting down with a parent in the first
- 1:27initial meeting,
- 1:28I typically draw this out because I think it's easy to visualize it.
- 1:33But one of the things that most parents
- 1:36have in the way of a goal
- 1:38or what they're hoping for
- 1:40if they pursue child-centered play therapy
- 1:43is that the extremes
- 1:46are not so extreme anymore.
- 1:48In other words,
- 1:49if your child is anxious,
- 1:51the extreme levels of anxiety
- 1:53reduce.
- 1:54If your child is aggressive,
- 1:55the extreme levels of aggressive aggression reduce.
- 1:58If your child is especially shy and quiet and timid,
- 2:02maybe
- 2:03chooses not to speak to certain people,
- 2:05the extreme nature of that goes away.
- 2:08The,
- 2:08the extremes
- 2:10are where we struggle the most.
- 2:12That's universally true.
- 2:13Any age,
- 2:14any issue,
- 2:15we,
- 2:16we avoid extremes.
- 2:18And so,
- 2:19when we think about child behavior,
- 2:21The fact that they are emotional beings,
- 2:24the fact that they live in the here and now.
- 2:27They're not rational.
- 2:28They're not cognitive.
- 2:30They don't have abstract reasoning.
- 2:32These are all concepts that we've already addressed.
- 2:35So,
- 2:36take all that in.
- 2:38And then we land on,
- 2:40kids are going to have extreme behaviors,
- 2:44extreme emotions,
- 2:45extreme reactions.
- 2:48That's pretty standard.
- 2:50And until they develop
- 2:53regulation
- 2:54and emotional vocabulary
- 2:56and self-control
- 2:58and worldview and all these things we know CCPT provides.
- 3:03They struggle to rein that in
- 3:06because
- 3:07the world is scary and life is scary and things are overwhelming and I have these big
- 3:11feelings and I don't know what they are and I don't know what to do with them,
- 3:13and I have to show you how I feel
- 3:15and I can't talk about anything because I'm not verbal yet
- 3:18and I can't think about anything because I'm not rational yet.
- 3:21And we look at quote extreme behavior
- 3:25and it just gets under our skin.
- 3:29Stop screaming.
- 3:30Stop throwing things.
- 3:32Stop running away from me.
- 3:33Stop
- 3:34these extreme behaviors.
- 3:36We have such little tolerance for them.
- 3:38So I think part of this episode
- 3:40is to help reframe
- 3:43this is not to irritate you.
- 3:45This is not to get under your skin.
- 3:47It's not to be the thorn in your side.
- 3:50It's not to be manipulative.
- 3:51It's not attention seeking.
- 3:53We explain away extreme behavior in 1000 ways to Sunday.
- 3:58The reality is
- 4:00kids don't know any other way
- 4:02to handle
- 4:04the big feelings.
- 4:06Everything is big to a child.
- 4:09And without rational
- 4:11ability,
- 4:12without cognitive ability,
- 4:14without reasoning ability,
- 4:15without verbal ability,
- 4:17without an emotional vocabulary,
- 4:19I hope it's easy to see,
- 4:21well,
- 4:21no wonder.
- 4:22It changes the whole dynamic and the whole perspective.
- 4:25So,
- 4:25I think part a
- 4:27of this episode
- 4:28is really just kind of
- 4:30reframing this
- 4:31because the extreme behaviors,
- 4:33we have such
- 4:34frustration levels,
- 4:36we have such intolerance,
- 4:37and
- 4:38that's not really appropriate or helpful.
- 4:41It is what it is for the child.
- 4:43Once they start to build skills,
- 4:45they behave and respond differently,
- 4:47and the extremes are not as extreme.
- 4:50OK,
- 4:50so that's kind of the reframing that needs to take place.
- 4:52But here's back to the visual illustration.
- 4:56When we think about children
- 4:58that are dysregulated,
- 4:59that don't have self-control,
- 5:01that don't have an emotional vocabulary,
- 5:03that
- 5:04are struggling to communicate appropriately,
- 5:06you put all those things in,
- 5:08we're going to have really high highs and really low lows.
- 5:12So if you imagine.
- 5:15I'm doing it with my finger,
- 5:16but you can't see me.
- 5:17So you're gonna have to,
- 5:17you have to have visualize this.
- 5:19Think about big spikes
- 5:22up
- 5:22and then down,
- 5:23up and then down,
- 5:24up and then down,
- 5:25like afib,
- 5:26maybe,
- 5:26you know,
- 5:27on a heart monitor.
- 5:28So you need to think about these huge spikes
- 5:31in both directions.
- 5:32So a huge upward spike and a huge downward spike,
- 5:35kind of with the,
- 5:36the horizontal line in the middle.
- 5:39All right,
- 5:39that's normal.
- 5:41Untherapized child behavior.
- 5:44If a child is dysregulated,
- 5:46if they're overwhelmed,
- 5:47if they're upheaved,
- 5:48if they don't have coping,
- 5:50if they don't have self-control.
- 5:52That's standard.
- 5:53So if,
- 5:54if you're thinking about these huge spikes up and down,
- 5:56you're going,
- 5:57yeah,
- 5:57that's exactly how I would describe my kid.
- 5:59I'm hoping that you're going,
- 6:01oh,
- 6:02so maybe this is normal.
- 6:03This whole time I've been thinking,
- 6:05what the heck is wrong?
- 6:07Maybe I'm realizing this is more normal.
- 6:09Normal is air quoted because
- 6:11it's still disregulated.
- 6:13It's still maladaptive.
- 6:15This is not where a child wants to be.
- 6:17This is not where a child can be.
- 6:20But that's where they are right now,
- 6:22appropriately so.
- 6:24So,
- 6:25imagine the horizontal flat line,
- 6:26huge
- 6:27pointed spike up,
- 6:29huge pointed spike down,
- 6:30and repeat that over and over and over again.
- 6:32So,
- 6:32when a kid gets excited and happy,
- 6:34they get really excited and happy,
- 6:35and when they get angry,
- 6:36they get really angry.
- 6:38And when they are scared,
- 6:39they are through the roof with anxiety.
- 6:40And then when they are disappointed,
- 6:42they just can't bring themselves out of the pit.
- 6:44OK,
- 6:45so,
- 6:45huge highs and lows all the way across.
- 6:47That's pre-therapy.
- 6:50Drawing.
- 6:52What happens through the course of child-centered play therapy.
- 6:56And let's go back.
- 6:57Let's kind of remind ourselves,
- 6:58we have 4 universal outcomes.
- 7:01And if you didn't listen to that episode,
- 7:03please go back and listen to this series in order.
- 7:06It's really meant to
- 7:08support you and help you understand what to expect
- 7:11and what's going on in the therapeutic process.
- 7:14So,
- 7:14season 1 and 2.
- 7:16All kinds of topics,
- 7:17all kinds of things that we've addressed.
- 7:19So,
- 7:19I mean,
- 7:19listen to all three seasons,
- 7:20really.
- 7:21But
- 7:21if you're not familiar with Four Universal outcomes,
- 7:24go back and listen to it because
- 7:26what
- 7:26we know is that no matter why a child pursues
- 7:30CCPT and or parents pursue it for them usually.
- 7:34We know that those personal issues are going to be addressed specifically,
- 7:38but then there are 4 things that happen regardless
- 7:40of why a child begins the process,
- 7:43and they are increased emotional vocabulary,
- 7:46increased self-esteem,
- 7:48increased worldview,
- 7:49and increased regulation.
- 7:52So,
- 7:52we think about these huge spikes.
- 7:55Up and down,
- 7:57that's standard for a child pre-therapy.
- 8:00And as they develop these four capacities,
- 8:03so they start to
- 8:05be able to accurately identify their feelings
- 8:07and then effectively communicate them,
- 8:09that's emotional vocabulary.
- 8:11They develop regulation.
- 8:13So they are able to self-control.
- 8:16They're able to calm themselves down.
- 8:18They're able to
- 8:20manage
- 8:21big things more appropriately,
- 8:24increase worldview.
- 8:25I learn
- 8:26that my actions have consequences,
- 8:28and I learned that what I do impacts other people.
- 8:31And I have other orientation that I didn't have before.
- 8:35I can understand that I don't want to negatively impact someone that I care about.
- 8:41And increase in self-esteem.
- 8:43As they feel better about themselves,
- 8:44they naturally behave in more self-enhancing ways.
- 8:48So you swirl all of those outcomes together,
- 8:51plus
- 8:52the therapeutic process,
- 8:53which means the relationship and the environment.
- 8:56We've talked about that a lot.
- 8:58And the child's individual work,
- 9:00specific to them,
- 9:01unique issues that they brought in,
- 9:03they're going to address those two.
- 9:06You put all of that in the CCPT pot and you stir it up
- 9:09in a big vat.
- 9:11And what happens is,
- 9:13let's go back to this horizontal line with the huge
- 9:16spikes.
- 9:17Now,
- 9:18you're gonna think about almost like a cosine wave.
- 9:22And if
- 9:23you have no idea what AFib is and you have no idea what cosine waves are,
- 9:26just look them up because you need to be able to visualize this.
- 9:29But I'll describe it for you.
- 9:30Think about a really small
- 9:32little
- 9:34hump
- 9:35and then a little hump down and then a little hump and then a little hump down.
- 9:38It's like a very mellow rounded.
- 9:42Not super high,
- 9:42not super low.
- 9:43It's just kind of like right along that horizontal line,
- 9:46just this gentle little fluffy little wave.
- 9:50That is what happens after therapy.
- 9:53We still have ups and downs.
- 9:54Let's be really clear,
- 9:55the goal of CCPT is never
- 9:58take away
- 9:59highs and lows.
- 10:01The goal is never to have a flat kid that is the same all the time.
- 10:06That'd be a fool's errand,
- 10:06#1.
- 10:07#2,
- 10:08that's not honoring who the child is.
- 10:11So we expect there's still going to be ups and downs.
- 10:14There's still going to be highs and lows,
- 10:16but here's what happens.
- 10:17Instead of these massive spikes up and down
- 10:20that go really high and really low,
- 10:21and they're really sharp and they're
- 10:23really aggressive and they're really intense,
- 10:25we have
- 10:26rounded,
- 10:27small,
- 10:28fluffy.
- 10:30Waves that are up and down now.
- 10:31Why?
- 10:32Because the intensity is reduced,
- 10:34the frequency is reduced,
- 10:36the duration is reduced,
- 10:39the recovery is reduced.
- 10:41So,
- 10:42do we still have a moment where a kid gets really mad?
- 10:44Sure.
- 10:44Do we still have a moment where a kid gets really nervous?
- 10:46Yes.
- 10:47Do we still have a moment where
- 10:49they kind of quote,
- 10:49fall apart?
- 10:51Sure.
- 10:52But it's for 38 seconds
- 10:54instead of 3 hours.
- 10:56And it only happens once a month instead of once a day.
- 11:00And
- 11:01we see all of this
- 11:03indication of regulation
- 11:05where,
- 11:06look,
- 11:06kids are still emotional beings.
- 11:08They're still here and now,
- 11:09they're still governed by their feelings.
- 11:11They're still not rational.
- 11:12They still don't have the verbal capacity to tell you what's going on.
- 11:15So
- 11:16that,
- 11:16none of that changes.
- 11:18But they are more consistently calm and regulated and in control.
- 11:24So typically what I do is I draw the horizontal line,
- 11:27I draw the big spikes up and down,
- 11:29and then I draw the little wavy
- 11:31line
- 11:32all on the same piece of paper.
- 11:35And we bring ourselves back to that as we go through the process.
- 11:39Because that helps us understand.
- 11:43Closer to the center line we stay,
- 11:45the more healthy and regulated we are.
- 11:48That's the goal.
- 11:50We're not taking away
- 11:51the ups and downs.
- 11:53We're just making them manageable and we're
- 11:55getting rid of the extremes because remember,
- 11:57the extreme
- 11:59is where we find the biggest levels of intolerance and frustration.
- 12:03So I hope that that gives you a visual that
- 12:05kind of settles and that you can make sense of,
- 12:07you know,
- 12:08chat with us about your therapist if you're
- 12:09actually working with a play therapist in CCPT.
- 12:13But
- 12:13even if you are not
- 12:15pursuing play therapy
- 12:16now or in the future,
- 12:18I hope that that helps you understand
- 12:20that as you continue to pour into your children and as you continue to use
- 12:24CCPT approaches with them.
- 12:27The four universal outcomes come from interaction with you as well.
- 12:32We've proven again and again in studies that
- 12:34when parents use CCPT skills with their children,
- 12:37it's more effective than therapists.
- 12:39So
- 12:40you do not have to have your child in CCPT
- 12:43to go from those huge spikes to the rounded calmer waves
- 12:47if you are implementing
- 12:49the same principles and interacting in the same way,
- 12:52preserving the relationship,
- 12:53unconditionally accepting your children.
- 12:56You can have the same outcome
- 12:58with your children.
- 12:59By recognizing the the way to interact with them
- 13:03in a child-centered fashion.
- 13:05So hope that that's helpful to y'all.
- 13:06I love you.
- 13:07Have a great week.
- 13:07We'll talk again soon.
- 13:08Bye.
- 13:10Thank you for listening to
- 13:11the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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