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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 6-18-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Tab it Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, It's the Seat O'Connell Show on ESPN seven and FM.
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  Speaker 2: Have you noticed, James that this has been going on
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  Speaker 2: for like three months? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Do I have nodes? Is this like?
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  Speaker 2: Is this like pitch perfect and I've got a case
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  Speaker 2: of the vocal nodes? Oh no, yeah, I have noticed that.
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  Speaker 2: I have noticed it with myself at the same time too.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, but I'm also I've got I've got something
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  Speaker 2: that makes me have to clear my throat all the
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  Speaker 2: time anyway, So I don't know, man, this is this
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  Speaker 2: is a weird, weird hour gy season into the early summer.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there was there was a time I was I
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  Speaker 2: was doing the intermittent and fasting thing for about a
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  Speaker 2: month and a half where I would not have eaten
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  Speaker 2: anything before I came into the studio.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, maybe there's just.
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  Speaker 2: Like some you know, there's just some build up because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not chewing and swallowing and clearing out my throat
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not the case now.
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  Speaker 2: So sorry if you have to listen to me going,
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  Speaker 2: but we're happy to have you on a Thursday. Gordy
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  Speaker 2: Chiays is gonna be here for an hour. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a lot to talk about in the association. Even though
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  Speaker 2: the season is over and the New York Knicks have won,
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  Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz obviously have some decisions to make and
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  Speaker 2: some conversations that need to be conducted with Walker Kessler
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  Speaker 2: his representation, Keyante George, his representation. Credit to Walker Kessler
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  Speaker 2: for kind of taking control or retaking control of the
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  Speaker 2: narrative here. Walker Kessler, I think saw the conversation getting
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  Speaker 2: away from him and maybe even from his agents yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with the oh, yeah, you know he's denied the extension.
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  Speaker 1: Is he happy?
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  Speaker 2: And he made sure to take to his own social
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  Speaker 2: media and make the point that he's always wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be in Utah Now last season he also said, look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm frustrated with the delay on these things, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to talk about it during the season because
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be a distraction during the season.
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  Speaker 1: Walker Kessler's got a really good head on his shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: Walker Kessler is that dude who you want in this organization.
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  Speaker 2: There's obviously a gulf between his expectations for pay and
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  Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz willingness to pay, and I think you
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  Speaker 2: know the the number, the reasonable number is probably about
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  Speaker 2: thirty million dollar dollar and he's sitting on twenty eight
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  Speaker 2: and offer for twenty eight right now. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get much higher than that. He's not
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  Speaker 2: enough of an offensive facilitator producer to justify that kind
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  Speaker 2: of pay. But we will see how that one resolves itself.
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  Speaker 2: Will talk about it with Gordy Chiason. John Wright's gonna
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  Speaker 2: join us at one o'clock because the US Open has
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  Speaker 2: begun and right now Shinnacock Hills is making everyone's life miserable.
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  Speaker 2: When I was driving in there, there were only five
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  Speaker 2: players above par.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if that's still the case. There's six players.
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say above par, there's six players under par,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone else is even or worse right now at
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  Speaker 2: the US Open. So John Wright will join us in
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  Speaker 2: the one o'clock hour to talk a little golf. We'll
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  Speaker 2: discuss some World Cup action, as you had another slew
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  Speaker 2: of games last night. Chechia and South Africa are underway
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  Speaker 2: at halftime right now, one zero, one nil advantage for
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  Speaker 2: Chechia right now. Switzerland, Bosnia Herzegovina coming at one o'clock Canada,
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  Speaker 2: Qatar or Cutter and then a feature that I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna have fun watching tonight.
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  Speaker 2: It is Mexico versus South Korea, and obviously Korea coming
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  Speaker 2: off a thriller against the Netherlands, Mexico coming off of
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  Speaker 2: successful debut in the tournament at Estaduasteca, so that should
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  Speaker 2: be a fun one. In group play later tonight at
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  Speaker 2: seven o'clock. Oh see my CHECKI ist squad picked them
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  Speaker 2: to win the group. Okay, you did not pick South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: You picked South Korea, so you're hoping for a big one,
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  Speaker 2: a big win over Mexico later. Careful, don't don't say
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  Speaker 2: that too loud. We get a lot of people in
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  Speaker 2: the building that are rooting for Mexico. It's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want it to be known. Shout out to
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  Speaker 2: connoisseur media, the Spanish stations in the building, Connoisseur media.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want them to know that I picked I'm
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  Speaker 2: picking against them. Also, is wearing a Mexico shirt today,
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  Speaker 2: So I talked to him because he's been wearing You've
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  Speaker 2: seen him in his Spain kit before, so I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: how many how many kits do you have And he's like,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, you mean just national teams and like yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Like Olivain in Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I have a US men's national team jersey,
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  Speaker 2: but it's our shirt, but it's not a jersey. And
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  Speaker 2: then he's got some a couple of club teams as
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  Speaker 2: a kit for.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a general sports fan.
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  Speaker 2: He's always wearing different gear, like you'll you'll come in
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  Speaker 2: and he'll be wearing Utah Valley gear.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Boy, By the way, voice of Utah Valley. Now, did
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  Speaker 2: you hear that? I didn't know that. He so Jim mccullaugh,
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  Speaker 2: the Great, the Great Jim McCulla Uh. He's no longer
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  Speaker 2: the voice of UVU basketball. Bryce Larsen's taken over for
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  Speaker 2: him this this coming season. So shout out to Bryce Larsen.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. It's one and that's Bryce's is great.
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  Speaker 2: If you if you never listened over on our sibling station,
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  Speaker 2: I encourage you to do so during the Dan Patrick
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  Speaker 2: commercials or whatever Rich Eyes and commercials or whatever, pop
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  Speaker 2: over there and listen to to the fellas Bryce and Biannucci.
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  Speaker 1: The official name of the show Big News.
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  Speaker 2: We we had this on in the hot Lunch yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about what now seems. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's so silly to think that yesterday was like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we got to address a social media video of Parker
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  Speaker 2: Kingston working out at by u's indoor practice facility for
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  Speaker 2: the obvious reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And now the absolute bomb the huge news today that
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  Speaker 2: charges have been dismissed in the case against former BYU
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver Parker Kingston. He was charged with first degree
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  Speaker 2: felony rape and those charges have been dismissed without prejudice.
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  Speaker 2: Means that charges can be refiled and it could eventually
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  Speaker 2: go to trial.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of this was.
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  Speaker 2: The result of hearing yesterday and the state attorneys were
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  Speaker 2: asking for another delay of the trial. They're asking for
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  Speaker 2: this thing to can to be kicked down the road
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  Speaker 2: a little bit further, on the grounds that the witness,
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  Speaker 2: the alleged victim's readiness to go to trial was in
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  Speaker 2: doubt right, and they asked for the trial to be
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  Speaker 2: moved to September, with an option to delay the case
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  Speaker 2: into October if needed. Obviously, Parker Kingston's defense said, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to agree to that.
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  Speaker 1: This trial.
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  Speaker 2: This is something we want to get resolved right now.
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  Speaker 2: Parker Kingston's future at BYU is certainly doubtful at best,
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  Speaker 2: but there are other schools in the country that want
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  Speaker 2: his services if he can get out from under these charges.
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  Speaker 2: And for now, as of today, he is no longer
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  Speaker 2: awaiting trial for a very serious felony accusation. He is
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  Speaker 2: now as we always have talked about, he is innocent
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  Speaker 2: until proven guilty. There's not even going to be a
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  Speaker 2: trial to prove his guilt. There is, of course the
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  Speaker 2: prospect of refiling the charges, and there's the prospect of
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  Speaker 2: a civil matter, much like the Jake Retzlaf case, to
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  Speaker 2: come out of this even if the criminal charges don't happen.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of that is going to be based
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  Speaker 2: on the alleged victim, obviously, And if the reason that
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  Speaker 2: this thing was not is not going to trial in
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  Speaker 2: July July sixth was supposed to be the date. If
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  Speaker 2: the reason that it's not going to trial now is
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  Speaker 2: because of a lack of readiness on the depart on
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  Speaker 2: her part, then I don't foresee a situation doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: sense to think that, well, there will be a civil
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  Speaker 2: trial anytime soon and this this is the reason why
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  Speaker 2: he was working out at BYU. I guess what we
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  Speaker 2: were speculating yesterday. Oh see that people around him at BYU,
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  Speaker 2: people in his inner circle, maybe people on that coaching
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  Speaker 2: staff felt like this was this was coming.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: It's important to note that BYU did respond to some
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  Speaker 2: of the conversation and said, this workout was conducted during
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  Speaker 2: private time. Okay, so this was not a BYU activity,
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  Speaker 2: It was not a team activity. So we probably don't
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  Speaker 2: get to infer anything about what coaches or administration it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like we talked about as a possibility yesterday, it was
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  Speaker 2: a workout being conducted by people who are certainly by
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  Speaker 2: extension associated with BYU. Former player Neil pau runs workouts there.
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  Speaker 2: Does like high school coaching there, you know, the the
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  Speaker 2: little seven on seven camps things like that, and his
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  Speaker 2: teammates are just like, there's no there's no uh. I
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure I phrase all these things correctly.
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  Speaker 2: There's no rule against fraternizing with someone who's about to
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  Speaker 2: go on trial.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing.
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  Speaker 2: There's no violation of an honor code by association, which
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  Speaker 2: right goodness for that. Yeah, and and you know also
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  Speaker 2: by extension b YU, because they clearly they're allowing it
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  Speaker 2: to happen in their facility. But will we'll we'll leave
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  Speaker 2: leave that aside and say the statement that they issued
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  Speaker 2: was that nobody was aware that BYU official, the official
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  Speaker 2: Royal BYU was not aware that Parker Kingston was working out.
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  Speaker 2: And then in the statement was they will now that
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  Speaker 2: they are aware it's been handled accordingly, which I interpreted
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  Speaker 2: to mean he's going to be asked not to come
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  Speaker 2: back to the facility anytime soon. And then one day later,
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  Speaker 2: not even twenty four hours later, we get the news
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  Speaker 2: that the case is dismissed, which obviously changes everything, obviously
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  Speaker 2: opens up. Now now a lot of the conversations we
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  Speaker 2: had yesterday in the day before about the propriety, whether
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  Speaker 2: or not it's okay for like or optically from a
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  Speaker 2: pr standpoint, it's all right to see that now all
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  Speaker 2: of those I mean this is the charges have been dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: The case is dismissed. It doesn't mean nothing happened. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean in reality innocence or guilt will ever be established.
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  Speaker 1: From a legal standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: The only two people who know exactly what happened are
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  Speaker 2: Parker Kingston, who has denied allegations vehemently, and the alleged victim,
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  Speaker 2: who is, according to all these reports, not ready to
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  Speaker 2: take this to trial, and the state has doubted she
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  Speaker 2: would be ready to do so even in September. That's
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  Speaker 2: why they ask for a possible continuance into October. So
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  Speaker 2: infer what you will on that. I'm trying not to
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  Speaker 2: infer anything based on that. But then instead of being
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  Speaker 2: a criminal story, instead of being a legal story, this
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  Speaker 2: news makes this now again a sports story.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: And I will just say, even though a day later
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  Speaker 2: the charges were dismissed, I still think it would have
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  Speaker 2: been better for his team that's working him out to
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  Speaker 2: just wait, just wait till they're dismissed, to do to
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  Speaker 2: even step on BYU's campus like that post any videos
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  Speaker 2: of you working out.
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  Speaker 1: Just wait a little bit. But anyway, Well, a very.
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  Speaker 2: Very close friend of mine and I were having a conversation,
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  Speaker 2: we were working out together last night. We were having
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  Speaker 2: a conversation about this exact thing. He's a devout member
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  Speaker 2: of the LDS Church and obviously I'm not. And we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about the optics for BYU, and we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about the optics for other players that are associating
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  Speaker 2: with him and stuff, and you start to question sort
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  Speaker 2: of the lines that are drawn when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: friendship to team culture, things like that based on this
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing. And I mean, this is a guy
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  Speaker 2: I've known, We've been very very close friends since fourth grade.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the question is is basically the hypothetical
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  Speaker 2: as well, if you were awaiting trial for this accusation,
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  Speaker 2: would I still hang out with you?
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  Speaker 1: Would we be working out together?
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  Speaker 2: And obviously there was no social media post, no public
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  Speaker 2: anything in regards to us working out together, But the
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  Speaker 2: question is, would I hang out with you? Would I
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  Speaker 2: be seen with you? Would I privately associate with you
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  Speaker 2: if you were awaiting trial for felony. I've tried not
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  Speaker 2: to say the word in case kids are in the car.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone. I hope you understand why we know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And like it's all based on do I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Your story or her story?
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  Speaker 2: And if it's your friend, if it's your close friend,
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  Speaker 2: if it's someone you've known since fourth grade, you're probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna believe. Even if it's someone you've known on your
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  Speaker 2: team for two years or a year, you're probably gonna
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  Speaker 2: believe him instead of her, and that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of problems with that in many, many, many cases. But
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important. A lot of Utah fans got
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  Speaker 2: on their high horse about this thing, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of Utah we we love it. Let's admit it to ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: Utah people, we love it when we think we can
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  Speaker 2: point out hypocrisy or oh we like to play goatchia
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  Speaker 2: on BYU and the perceived self righteousness of the whole
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  Speaker 2: BYU machine. We like to point out the chinks in
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  Speaker 2: the armor. Oh look what you did here? Why is
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  Speaker 2: Jake rest left in the facility? Why is Parker Kingston
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  Speaker 2: in the facility?
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  Speaker 1: We like to do that. It's okay to admit that
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  Speaker 1: to ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: We like to pretend we know something you don't to
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  Speaker 2: the rival school and to the rival fan base. That is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, interlaced with this morality and religiosity and all
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We like to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh see, you guys shouldn't be on such a high horse,
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  Speaker 2: because as long as it's a talented person, you allow
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  Speaker 2: for any loophole possible. When you really zoom this thing out,
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  Speaker 2: maybe Neil pau and Company knew or had confidence that
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  Speaker 2: this outcome was coming sooner than later, that these charges
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  Speaker 2: in this case was going to be dismissed more than later.
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  Speaker 2: More importantly, I think their willingness to fraternize is an
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  Speaker 2: indication that they believe him, not the accusation. And look,
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  Speaker 2: when this story broke in February, I was having spirited
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  Speaker 2: discussions with my own wife about it because my tendency,
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  Speaker 2: because of maybe some I don't know, twisted sense of chivalry,
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  Speaker 2: my tendency is always to just be like, oh, bleep.
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  Speaker 1: That dude, I automatically hate that guy.
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  Speaker 2: And my wife was more like, well, hold on, because
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of girls that grew up in
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  Speaker 2: the culture that I grew up in that after the fact,
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  Speaker 2: and this was remembered that the arrest happened like a
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  Speaker 2: year later, the rest the arrest, the time between the
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  Speaker 2: leedged incident and the arrest and the.
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  Speaker 1: Charges being filed was a long time, after a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of investigation, and my wife was like, well, hold on,
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  Speaker 2: it's not always so black and white. And I have
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  Speaker 2: a tendency to be like, now, something like this feels
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  Speaker 2: pretty black and white. I was a single young man
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  Speaker 2: for a long time hanging out with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different people and never had anything even close to this
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  Speaker 2: come across my bow. It's pretty easy to not be
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  Speaker 2: accused of these things, is what my mentality has always been.
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  Speaker 2: So I have this tendency, maybe this overtendency, to just
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  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that's a you problem, whoever the male
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  Speaker 2: involved is. And I do believe that the male has
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  Speaker 2: the greater responsibility in ensuring clear communication and safety for
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  Speaker 2: both parties and all that stuff. I will never not
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  Speaker 2: believe that, especially as a father of three girls. But
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  Speaker 2: we're looking at this now as clearly still a convoluted
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  Speaker 2: case where charges could be refiled, where a civil matter
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  Speaker 2: could be brought to court eventually, but for now, Parker
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  Speaker 2: Kingston is, based on the information we have, is at
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  Speaker 2: least temporarily exonerated and is an incredibly talented athlete who
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  Speaker 2: is going to do what he can to try to
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  Speaker 2: put the pieces back together on.
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  Speaker 1: A football career that really was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he had an incredible breakout season last year, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, it still feels a little icky to
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  Speaker 2: talk about this part of it, knowing the backdrop, but
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  Speaker 2: this is a guy that can help, BYU, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he's going to be allowed to help BYU. I
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  Speaker 2: think he would have to serve something like a half
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  Speaker 2: season suspension. There's going to be at the very least
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  Speaker 2: if BYU lets him re enroll and everything and be
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  Speaker 2: part of the football team, there's gonna be very least
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  Speaker 2: a long suspension, if not a full year ban. And well,
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  Speaker 2: i mean Jake Retslof was offered a seven game suspension,
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  Speaker 2: is that right? That was the report. That was the report,
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  Speaker 2: that was the rumor of the innuendo, and that was
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  Speaker 2: a civil case. He had never had criminal charges. You
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  Speaker 2: would think it would be it might be more for
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  Speaker 2: for Parker Kingston.
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  Speaker 1: But also if has been dismissed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if criminal charges are dismissed, I happen, right.
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  Speaker 2: I truly don't know what the official like by the
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  Speaker 2: book stances. I'm sure the Honor Code Office and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure BYU leadership has a handbook for how some of
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  Speaker 2: these things are supposed to be handled. I'm sure Brian
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  Speaker 2: Santiago and Kalani Satake have had a conversation already given
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  Speaker 2: the information available to us.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, there's.
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  Speaker 2: Still there's still pre marital relations going on, so there
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  Speaker 2: would be a there's an honor code violation that took place,
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  Speaker 2: so there would be some kind of discipline, if not
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  Speaker 2: a complete band still, And we're not going to get
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  Speaker 2: into whether or not we believe that the honor code
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  Speaker 2: should be in people's business that way. I kind of don't,
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  Speaker 2: but I understand that that's something that everyone signs up
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  Speaker 2: for down there in provo, and like, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to go by the letter of the law, go buy
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  Speaker 2: the letter of the law. I know plenty of people
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: who didn't twill they were at BYU and just never
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: got in trouble, and we're great represented as a BYU
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and their private life was their private life. I know
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: many examples of that, and that's fine in my book.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: It might not be finding your book if you're a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: BYU fan, or if you're a strict to the letter
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: person of the LDS faith maybe, or a strict to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the letter person of any faith that thinks that the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: premarital relations are like unto murder. I'm not of that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: opinion these days. But this is a massive story for many,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: many different reasons. Because we're talking about that he said,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: she said dynamic again, and this one is so convoluted
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and so complicated, and it was a case that had
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: already been delayed. The incident in question was two decembers ago, now, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and the arrest came a full like whatever it was
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen months after the fact, and then now, well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: are you going to be ready in May? No?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: What about in July? Okay? Now I'm not gonna be
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: ready in July? Okay? What about September? Yeah?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Probably, but more October might be better. And the judge
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: in the case is looking at it and saying like, no,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: this thing, this we need an expedient result on this.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I think whatever story you're inclined to believe,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I think that that's probably a reasonable a reasonable way
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: the judge is deciding to handle this, and whatever justice
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: needs to be needs to be done or whatever, hopefully
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: hopefully it happens eventually, or maybe this is the just outcome,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and Parker Kingston deserves to be a free man and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: live with innocence that he has until he's proven guilty.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Absolutely the I mean, there's a lot of layers to
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the onion here. Remember the prosecution team asked for Judge
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Jay Winward, who made this decision, to be dismissed previously
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: said hey, we don't want you to be the judge
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: who makes these decisions. We think that you are going
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: to give unfair bias to the student athletes to Parker Kingston.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: The judge that motion was denied, the judge stayed, and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: the judge, that judge, the one that the prosecution at
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: least at some point effectively accused of being not unbiased,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: it didn't trust at any at any rate, said that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: That is the judge that says the state is not ready,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the victim is unprepared to testify, and that's okay. The
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: case is dismissed without prejudice. The timeline here complicates things drastically.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: The timeline for Parker Kingston's life is obviously he's the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: one on the deadline from an eligibility standpoint. The alleged victim,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: as far as we know, doesn't have any of those
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: strictures going on. And the judge has recognized that, and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: the judge has dismissed this trial, and now it becomes
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a sports story again. Like I said, BYU will offer
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: him a place back, but there will be a suspension
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: attached to it, and the suspension may have nothing to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: do with considering this criminal case because the charges have
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: been dismissed.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: The suspension is.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: An honor code violation, it would be That's what it is,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Honor code violation. That's it like from a legal standpoint,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Athletic Department or BYU or BYU
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Football or whoever the decision maker is, I don't think
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: they can say we're suspending you based on charges that
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: are no longer levied against you. It has to be
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: on the honor code violation. And of course we know
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: what that on. Our Code office has typically done in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: cases like this. We have a good example of the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: rets Laugh case and the alleged offer there. Like, you're
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: gonna have to serve a suspension for the majority of
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: your season, Parker Kingston. To me, it seems likely with
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the lack of eligibility he has remaining, you're probably not
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: gonna sit out that much of a season.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Although BYU has incredible high hopes.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: For a Big twelve championship, that just got that much
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: better because there's no Brendan Soresby at Texas Tech, right,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: So maybe he's looking at it and going, well, geez,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I started this with my guys I'd like to finish
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: it with my guys, even if I have to serve
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: this suspension. If you're Utah, do you want him? That's
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: that was my first thought. I don't know. I I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: don't think Morgan Scally should touch this with one hundred
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: foot poll.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Your Wide Receiver Corps, we think is pretty talented,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: more talented than in recent years.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And far more important than that. You're a first year
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: head coach. And the tone that you want to set
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: in your program, the culture, the RSNB culture. What you
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: want is rule followers. You want buy in, you want
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: no gray area, you want integrity. And while charges have
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: been dismissed for now, we don't know the actual truth
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: about what happened here, and Morgan Scally, as much as
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he wants to communicate with anyone, he cannot possibly know
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the actual truth here. It is too risky, in my opinion,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: for Utah to even explore that idea. On top of that,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I think Parker Kingston has interest from SEC schools. I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: think he's got interest from places that are gonna be
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: far enough removed from this that is probably a relief
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: for him, far enough removed from this. And in a
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: football culture, we know how the South is where they're
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: just like, we don't care about some accusation that is.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Following you from before. We don't care about that at all.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: At LSU, we don't care about those things I don't miss,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: we don't care about.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: At Florida, we don't cave and already reached out to him.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: You think guarantee, at Florida, we don't care about any
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of that stuff, young man. That he said, she said stuff,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: some are all, some are all at Florida.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Jake Rhetzlaf's coach at Tulaye last year, just saying.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, so there's gonna be possibilities for this young
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: man to play football this year.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: However, again, you just have to approach all of it right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You have to look at the whole picture. Clearly, he's talented.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Clearly he's capable of producing for you on the field.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Unclear as to whether or not he's a good person
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: as a receiver and a returner.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: By the way, he can help you in multiple ways
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: as a.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Unclear as to whether or not you could trust this
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: kid to follow your rules. He's already admitted he didn't
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: follow the rules at BYU. A lot of people in
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: college football and college atmospheres in general. Think those rules
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: are antiquated and have no bearing. I mean, he is eligible,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: as far as I know to play at literally every
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: university in the country, at least in the power for
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: except for BYU. Yeah, there's there's even the other Christian schools.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Christian affiliated schools do not have rules like that in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: certainly in the power for. I mean this if it
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is if his defense is the truth, and again we
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: don't know his defense is the truth, and it was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a consensual encounter that got communication crosswired, that is not
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: grounds for dismissal at any other university.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just isn't.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I think the only other university it might be is
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Liberty and that's not power for football, right, that's yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Like Notre Dame has a similar sort of like, hey,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you know, follow the commandment's kids, it's not.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Enforced.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not something.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: There's no office of enforcement for it, like there is
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: with the Honor Code Office.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: And I have to give credit where it's too.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The Honor Code Office has been out of the public
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: eye for the most part. In a lot of cases,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they handle things privately a lot more than they used to,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and that is better because these are college students. We're
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: talking about what it's a high profile case like Retz
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: laugh was, like Parker Kingston is. Now we're talking about
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: something unavoidable. The Honor Code office has to be visible here.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But this story, if you're a coach, right Utah, I'm
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: gonna scratch off the list. I don't think Morgan can
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: afford it. I think as a first year head coach,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it makes no sense for him. I don't think you
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: do it. Even if we're talking about like arch Manning,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think you just say no, sorry, we can't touch
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: this with a ten foot Pollnot if it wasn't the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: University of Utah. If it was if it was a
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: different state that the main rid that b i U's
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: main rival rival was in, you could there might be
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: more wiggle room there. But I agree with you, like
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you're in the same area and you're you're who you are,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley, You you gotta just now you let that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: guy go somewhere else. I'm really like, I'm really curious
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Arizona State, Kenny Dillingham, Right, they're acutely
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: aware of how talented Parker Kingston is down there, right,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham has some resources and is aggressive in these matters,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: But is Arizona State far enough removed? There's a huge
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Mormon community down there. I think they are. There's a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: huge group of BYU supporters down there. Is it far
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: enough removed? Again, in a lot of these cases, the
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: only question that they need answered is are you talented enough?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So I this is a resolution of sorts, but it
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is not a final resolution because of the possibility of
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: a refile, the possibility of a civil case being brought,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And I think it the last thing I want to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: say about it before we take a break and get
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to Gordy Chiesa, who's with us for the next hour.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think, for me, I'm not a head coach in
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: college football. I'm not a team captain in college football.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I never was. I'm not a position coach in college football.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I need to believe his side of the story before
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: he comes and is part of my team, regardless of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the technicalities, regardless of the legalities, regardless of the fine print.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: If I'm interested in his services as a wide receiver,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: if I want to give him a second chance, because
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: if he was falsely accused, that is a crime in
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and of itself. That is horrific mistreatment of a human being.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: If you put that evil on somebody when they don't
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: deserve it, an accusation like that can permanently ruin a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: young man's life. In Parker Kingston's case, it at least
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: temporarily derailed his life very significantly, and might still do
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: so further. But if I'm anybody who has any interest
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in associating with this young guy, hiring him in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: future for a regular job, if he doesn't make it
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: to the league, I need to be able to sit
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: down with him, listen to the story, Give me the truth,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: give me every single detail. Let me read the testimony
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of your victim. Let me cross examine you based on that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I guess there is no testimony but police reports, and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: maybe you meet with the Maybe you meet with the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: prosecutor in this case and get the details from from
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the other side there like that before it becomes a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: full sports story. For me, I have to believe in
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the player being innocent. If I don't believe that he
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: is beyond a shadow of my own doubt, as if
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I were a member of a jury of the peers,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want that guy on my football team. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: don't want that guy anywhere near my football team. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: this is something that is lost in the sports culture
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: all the time. If the legality is there, if the technicality,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: if the boxes are checked. From those standpoints, there's been
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of cases in which coaches, teammates, universities are
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: just like, Oh, from a legality standpoint, we're covered.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: That's all that matters.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It has to matter more than this, especially in cases
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: involving these types of charges. But that is the biggest
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: news in the state of Utah today on the sports front,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that the Parker Kingston story went from being a criminal
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: story to now being a sports story again because the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: case has been dismissed without prejudice, which means charges could
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: be refined at a later date, and there's always the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: matter of a civil trial. But if the alleged victim,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: as is reported, was not willing to or able to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: testify anytime soon, unlikely that that would be coming up
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: in the foreseeable future. And I'm talking about during this
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: upcoming college football season, because they were looking to kick
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the can into October seasons most of the way over
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: by then. I'm going to take a quick shower during
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: the break.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I don't like talking about that kind of stuff.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Makes me feel weird and icky. I don't know if
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I handle it right. I always question after those types
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: of conversations on air whether I said the right things,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: whether I've expressed my views clearly.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I believe that we all have a duty, especially men.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: We all have a duty to protect women, no matter
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: the age, and let that be the final statement on it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Gordy Chiaysa joins us.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Next, It's Parade Day in New York City, The Drama
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: with Walker Kessler, an upcoming NBA draft, lots to discuss
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: with our resident guru in the Association Sean O'Connell Show
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: on ESPN seven hundred and ninety twoe FM. He's out.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: NBA than any of us will ever know.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the day. I listenday.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Here's oh c with basketball Stabban Gordy Chiasa on The
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Sean O'Connell Show.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Oh Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell show ESPN seven
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety TWOE FM. Welcome in Gordy, CHIAYSA brought
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to you by a Ladin Industry.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Is your Utah V Lux Dealer. Hi, Gordi Sewing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: I'm doing well.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to uh next Tuesday, all the listeners.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: That's the NBA Draft, the first round, and next Wednesday
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: will be the second round and it's held in a
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Barclay Center in Brooklyn, and everybody's going to be there
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: involved and it's going to be a wonderful night for
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: jazz fans and for NBA xellots.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You ever been to Shinnecock Hills, Gordy.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: That's the Long Islands, right, Yeah, yeah, yes, No, I've
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: not been the but I know of it. I've passed
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: it many a time, showing when I was in Crazy
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: traffic Champs and a thing called the l I E
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: the Long Island Express Ray, which is the world's biggest
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: parking lot.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I have been on that many a time for my
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: PFL duties, going from Queens in the airport all the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: way out.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, But.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Shinnecock Hills the US Open host courses dominating the golfing
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: field right now, Yes, only four guys under par uh
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: close to Gordy's old stomping grounds. But we brought you
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: here to talk basketball, not to talk golf. So my
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: fault on the weirdest side. Let's start with the thing
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's top of everyone's mind here in the state of Utah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Walker Kessler in the Utah Jazz yet to reach an agreement.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Reports out there from Tip McMahon and others that they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: still pretty far apart. Despite the five year, one hundred
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and forty million dollar offer from the Utah Jazz, Walker
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: seemed like he wanted.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: To clear the air a little bit.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yesterday took to social media and posted, I'll just read
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: exactly what his post said. I've seen what's being said.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be clear. I've always wanted to be here.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I love the city, these fans, my teammates, my coaches.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: That's real to me. You don't grow roots where you
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: don't want to be. So Walker Kessler making it clear
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that he loves Utah, he wants to be in Utah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's going to take a significant discount
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: below what he feels he's worth to stay in Utah. However,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's a vote of confidence that something will
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: get between these two parties, and I wanted your thoughts
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: on the matter.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. So the first thing is that this is all
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: agent talk. His agent Aaron Menz and David Spahn from
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: CAA Sports. They also represent Jaron Jackson. So in Jazz basketball,
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: it's very possible next season that Walker Kessler and Jaron
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Jackson the starting front court of the two big guys
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: in Utah. As far as bigs have the same agency,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: that's all part of the drama and off season, the
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: agents drive the dialogue. He knows that the team never
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: talks about their own assets, meaning the players, and that
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Walker Kesser on social media made that point. The Jazz
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: offer is absolutely the baseline and it's more than fair
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: that for the listeners right now, Walker Kesser was offered
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: five years, one hundred and forty million dollars one hundred
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: and forty million dollars total, which comes to twenty eight
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: million dollars a year. If that happened, that would be
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: the largest figure ever in the history of NBA basketball
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: for the largest contract for a center who never made
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: the All Star team Sean twenty eighth, the largest ever
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: for a center never gonna make an All Star team.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: That's Walker Kesla his fifth year. Walker Kesl's homegrown, meaning
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: the Jazz drafted him and good faith. Next year starts
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: his fifth season in the NBA. What happens? What happened
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: this year? He got hurt Toron Labor him on his
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: right shoulder, which is a shooting shoulder. He played well
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: in those five games, fourteen point four points per game,
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: ten point eight rebounds, and at one point eight blocks.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: So that's the baseline they're gonna keep negotiating member. He's
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: a restricted free agent. So the Jazz, I'm sure I
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: have offered this, and they're gonna wait totally until someone
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: gives a different offer than they're gonna counter it. Once
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: is another offer by another team that the Jazz have
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: roughly have forty eight hours after they received the offer
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: to match or move them on son and trade. So
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: that's that's the the math of it, and also the
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: arithmetic of it and just the dynamics of it. So
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: it's all agent driven. Walker Kester wants to be here.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: The Jazz want him. The Jazz don't want to overpay
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: dramatically on him. Hey we love you, dog. However, we
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: don't want to give you forty five million dollars a year,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: and that's any business. So again, how do you view it?
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: If you're the player, it's different, you're the agent, it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: absolutely different. And if you're the team it's different. And
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: if you're the point guard of a team, Hey, we
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: wion't want to go on on our roster.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: So we were going through the top center salaries in
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the league yesterday, and the the twenty eight million dollars
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: a year basically puts it. I think we decided it
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: was ten or eleven for centers. Sure he be, he
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: would be right behind Isaiah Hartenstein. And I wonder how much,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: pardon me, I wonder how much of this is just
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: comparative Right, You're looking over the fence at what somebody
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: else has, and you're going, wait, I'm better than Hartenstein.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: My ceiling is higher than Hartenstein's. Porzingis is right around
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: thirty million dollars a year. You might think, well, I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: better than porzingis more valuable to my team than porzingis. Also,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: how much of that goes on with the player agents
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: and of course the president that has been set in
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the league with other guys playing that same.
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: Position, paramount and that's what you're talking about right now. Hey, Mike,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I found the agent. My client is better and more potential,
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: and you guys have drafted him versus the next player
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: either above or below them as far as in his
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: salary structure. So it does matter Hartenstein. So here's the
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: question with it, and the Jazz point of view is
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: that this guy is part of our future. And Hartenstein
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: helped the Thunder win a championship in twenty twenty five,
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: and we think that Walker Tesla can help us also
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: be championship type team with us. Whose charged his sidekicks
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: and that they're going to negotiate in good faith. The
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Jas are going to sign him and so Walker tested.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: The question is for how much money. It's all that
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: you know, it's all that debate right now, and it's
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: all push and pull how it all plays out. Again,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: you never want a player that you like and you nourished,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: meaning you've drafted him and helped develop him walk away.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: So that's it's going to happen.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Remember the again, the rules are he can he can
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: sign right now as far as the contract, but if
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: they wait until so and offers them, they will be
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: It will be roughly on July fifth, which is which
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: is July first, starts the negotiation of all the other
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: teams as far as giving him an offer, and July
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: fifth they can start as far as making it official.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So it's a it takes time.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: We're going to do our best to stay on clock.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: The number offered now twenty eight million dollars per year
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: average annual value on this contract. Obviously he and his agents,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: especially his agents, want a little bit more than that.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: But we're going to take a look at the projected
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: salary caps in the NBA, and of course the projected
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: percentage that maybe a higher number would translate to for
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Walker Kessler and for the Utah Jazz. I think that's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: an important part of this discussion. So we'll take a
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back. We'll discuss that here on
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell Show. It's ESPN seven hundred and ninety
• 42:29
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• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Your team to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 42:41
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• 42:45
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• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell, Gordy Chiasa here for the next little while.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: On the Sean O'Connell show, Gordy.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: You know why I'm playing the song shown because of
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: you and because of the World Cup. As we talked
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: last week about England England. My team beats beat Cuati
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  Speaker 5: yesterday four to two, and this is the clash from England,
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  Speaker 2: So in the space of a couple of days, you
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  Speaker 2: had Irving Holland score two, Killian Mbappe score two, Leo
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  Speaker 2: as well. Some of the top players in the world
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• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Who would have thunk it? Actually a lot of people did.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Do you hear Taylor Twelveman on The Rich Eisen Show
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: this morning, just just gloating about his predictions. He's been
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: talking about how Ronaldo's passed it forty one years old. Anyway,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: that's a World Cup discussion. We'll have that another time.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: We've got Gordy Chaza in studio and we were talking
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: about the Walker Kessler thing. There's a math equation that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you have to consider here when it comes to the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: salary cap, when it comes to luxury tax aprons that
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz do not want to play with, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: when it comes to the contracts that you're already obligated
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: to pay to Jared Jackson Junior who's making almost fifty
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: million dollars next year, Lowry Markinen making what forty five
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: plus forty six million dollars next year and a salary
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: cap that's going to be what one hundred and seventy three?
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I think yes, So the math stops mathing if you
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: overpay Walker Kessler. His agents know that to some extent.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: He has to know that, and you're having this negotiation.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: You're having this conversation, by the way, in the same
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: offseason cycle that you just saw the NBA Finals MVP
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: who did not take the most money that he could
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: they have gotten. So it feels like a bad timing
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: for Walker Kessler and his team to be trying to
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: maximize a contract right now. I know that I'm more
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: a prisoner of the moment than any of these agents are.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: But there's just a lot of a lot of math
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: that you have to make work. And Gordy what Walker
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Kessler a defensive specialist, a big man, a throwback to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the nineties, not really a big offensive presence. What percentage
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: of your salary cap can you afford to pay someone
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: like that and still be a winning team?
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Sure?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, roughly?
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: So next year contracts with the Jazz with choes alluding
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: to as far as their top heavy, as far as
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: in the front court. And that makes it. It's all
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: part of what you know again in the big picture
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: of things. So Jaren Jackson makes next year forty nine
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: million dollars, who they traded for, which means that they're
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: absolutely committed to him, to say the least, and he
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: should be. He's tremendous player. Larry Markina makes forty six
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: point one million. So the two players and the Jazz
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: are ready in the front court, they make ninety five
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: million dollars. And so just say, for the narrative they
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: offered Walker Kestler, meaning the Jazz management offered him twenty
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: eight million dollars times five years ago one hundred and
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: forty million. Just say the final settle on will say,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: just for the narrative shown thirty five million an average.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: So which means that the Jazz suddenly are committed to
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: basically one hundred and one hundred and thirty million dollars
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: in the front court. And so that just shows you,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: that shows you that, which means then the piggyback to
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: add to that, then what about Count de George's all
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: part of the discussion is not one thing, it's the
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: whole roster as far as management. So Count de George,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: he turns twenty three this November eighteenth. He's a young fella,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: and that he's a he's a talented player, and so
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: he makes this year, County George, meaning next season, the
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: twenty six twenty seven, he makes sean only six point
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: five six million. Yeah, so he's saying, wait a second,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: I'm part of the future here. He's an extension eligible
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: as far as rookie extension right now, and that if
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: the Jazz don't get the extension and they give him
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: a qualifying offer next year, he'll be restricted for the
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: agent after next year, like just like Walker Kessel did.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: So there's a there's been a president done right now
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: where the Jazz paused on Walker Kesler. They did the
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: right thing as a matter of fact, and they might
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: pause on Cante George, especially Sean again, just say, if
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: again we're playing that game, if the Jazz do draft
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Darren Peterson at two, which is very possible, if the
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Jazz is staring at either Darren Peterson or Cambooser either
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: or you can make the discussion.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Both of them are terrific talents.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: They're going to be a foundational type players.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: So those is not a backcourt player. He's not right,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't put him in your back court.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Oh I love that discussion. Okay, all right, Sean.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Isn't he too big, Gordy, It's like two hundred and
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: forty pounds?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, Now he's a he's a forward in fact, matter
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: of fact, he's actually a point forward.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: The way he plays.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: This is Cambusa for the listeners right now, camp Bush
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: is much different than his dad, who had the privilege
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: to coach.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, Cam Boozer is six'.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Nine as a matter of, fact Particularly cambusa showing you
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: realize and we'll go much detail On tuesday during the.
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: Day it also more Importantly tuesday at. Night cam bus
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: the youngest player in the, draft the youngest guy in
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: The draft's interesting Is Cam buser he's eighteen years.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Old are you kidding? Me how good he?
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Is?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: So Cam busa is a point.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Forward here's his official physical profile from the draft. Combine,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: okay six' eight and a quarter without shoes on two
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Three pounds.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Who IN the nba is playing in the backcourt at
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Plus pounds, Oh, nobody, no no. Big no the only
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: person that person is Ever Is. Lebron james, Yeah NO
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: and i. Say nobody lebron is the freak of all
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: freaks in a.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Great Way.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Lebron, James okay but back to the point you, were
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: making there's and.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: That is that you want to you want to balance
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: your roster as far, as positionally as far as economics.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Of it you can't.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: Have it you can't the roster showing tilted towards only,
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: one area meaning, what okay the front court we are
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: loaded and we're, top heavy and now we can't get
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: a mid range guy as far. As salary see just
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: a great break in the Sense that remember now is
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: that as of right, now today as, we speak, right
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: now guess who the third highest paid player In the
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: jazz is as we speak right, Now, Today.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Okay So jaron jackson junior, highest paid second highest paid.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: And third as you speak right now, this moment now, this, second.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Wow. Rookie deal that's.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Exactly right but see now the. Rookie deals now wait.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: A second now it's, My Turn, walker kessler and it's.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: My turn Can't? They georgie you see it in the
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: worries for. The listeners this is so important why teams
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: have to manage. Their, roster now there's no, perfect roster there,
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: is not. Absolutely, not however the better teams that consistently
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: win minus, major injuries get the majority of the contracts
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: correct towards winning and also towards their, age group meaning
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: what years IN. The nba the lesser teams most times
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: shown they get. It wrong they overpaid dramatically on certain players,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: and positions and they. Don't win and that's why they
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: keep doing the same mistake all. The time it's. So
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: important that's, For, example sean, all Right The San. Antonio
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: spurs they're giddy about, their Roster, the spurs because you,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: know Why like Julian, shamp penny who's playing IN The,
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: nba finals Is making, rainbow three is trying to DEFEND
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: The Mvp, Jalen, brunson Sean the spurs dilemma right now
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: is they have a. Team option should they do it?
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: Or Not On, Julian, champenni sean you're sitting down. Right
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: now it's next year's contract is three. Million, Dollars. Oh,
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Sean see sean is laughing. Right now he's giving me that,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: irishman look laughing like he just HAD a tko in
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: the second round against somebody didn't like who stole his
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: girlfriend twenty five.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Years ago three.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Team option IN today's nba is. Like nothing it's.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: Chump change it's like going to. The diner, that's like
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: that's double the league minimum.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: THIS year i think the league minium right now is
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: With this this past year was one.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Point, nine, okay yeah but still so you're one point
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: one over the league minimum for a player of that
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: value and.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: Playing right because he had, no leverage he was happy
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: to get a two year deal, with, This bro i'll
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: SHOW you i can play IN. The nba means This
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: is champagne, saying this and you, know something he's. Right
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: again this is why teams win and why teams do.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Not win and that's any sports showing it COULD, Be
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: nfl it could be, in baseball it could be. In,
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: hockey again what is the player work value? Towards winning
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: and that values what besides on, the ice on, the
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: field on, the court on the. Baseball diamond it's the
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: economic part of.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: It Too, all right there's some more news in free
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• 52:44
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• 52:46
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  Speaker 2: Laddin Industries Your Utah VLUX Dealer nba draft. Coming up
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: jazz of course holding on to the number, two pick
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: and there seems to be at least a little bit
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: of debate about whether Or not washington is going to
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Have aj Debansa Or darren peterson on. Their radar we
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Know That darren peterson wants to Go, to washington.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: But The utah jazz will be making.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: A pick and as it has, been established if they
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: think that the right move basketball Wise Is, darren peterson
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: they kind of don't care if he wants to work
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: out here or even if he wants to. Be here
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: they'll figure it out after. The Fact but GORDY and
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: i were talking during the break and he has it's
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: not his official, list today but he's he's got a
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: little ledger of the most impactful draft picks That this
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: jazz franchise.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Has MADE and i want. TO hear i want to hear. This,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: list yeah his list.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Right now, he said we have two, lists today but
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: this list about the draft and how it IMPACTS the
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: organisa and where a guy. Is picked, All right so
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: this is the All Time utah jazz impactful draft selections
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: and the catch word, is impactful. All right Number Twelve
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: ace bally at, number twelve he was the fifth pick
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: of the draft in twenty, twenty five and my instincts
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: tell me that he's going to Go in this list
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: go down much further each passing. The year and let's
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: not Forget With. Ace bailly he had a very well played.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Rookie season he turns Twenty this, august thirteenth so. We're
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: talking he played at the first year level With the
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: jazz and played well at nineteen. Years old, Number Twelve.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: Ace belly, Number Eleven brian russell was the forty fifth
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: pick in the draft in nineteen. Ninety three at. Forty
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: five he was the guy that we're trying to Slow
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: Down michael jordan in the playoffs and he had A tremendous,
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: jazz career, number teven a number. Ten Party andre carolinko
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: was picked number. Twenty four Became An all star With.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: The jazz jazz picked him, at eight aged eighteen years
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: old in nineteen. Ninety nine jazz waited two years to
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: Go from Russia to america and he Became A jazz
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: stoworth number nine all time. Tremendous player paul millsp picked
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: number forty seven in the draft in two thousand. And
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: sixteen he played For the jazz for. Seven years that
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: guy played bigger than six. Foot eight he's a tremendous
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Player in. Jazz basketball number eight all time In Pacfull
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: gordon hayward Became.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: An all star With the jazz in.
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: Twenty ten drafted at, number nine number seven fourth round
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: pick in nineteen, eighty two the, fourth round meaning seventy.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: Second overall he became a two time defensive player Of.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: The year he Was An. All star Talking About, mark eaton.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Number Six darryl griffith was the second pick of the
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: draft in. Nineteen eighty he played For the jazz for.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Eleven season He was rookie Of the year in nineteen. Eighty
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: one number five nickname Was. D Well darren williams Became
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: An all star and two thousand and five was drafted at,
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: number three number four all. Time impactful he's picked number
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: twenty seven in. The draft back in two thousand. And,
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Thirteen Yes rudy gobert Became An all star With, the
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: jazz three Time defensive player Of. The years the third
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: best ever impactful pick By the Jazz Was donovan mitchell
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: back in two thousand and seventeen with the thirteenth pick in.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: The draft he became A Multiple, all star the second greatest.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: Impactful player and you can debate this one two, two one.
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: It's irrelevant both these guys were. Absolutely great cal malone
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: pick number thirteen in the draft back in nineteen, eighty
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: five are you? Kidding me and number one pick number
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: sixteen in the draft nineteen. Eighty Four both John and
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Call became hall. Of Famers john stockton is the most.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Impactful player so again we're not talking high. Draft picks we're.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: Talking guys one guy was. Forty seven one guy was,
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: forty five one guy, was seventeen one guy was. Twenty
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: Seven one Hall of famer, was Sixteen one Hall of.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Famers thirteen so it shows you that you get. It
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: right sometimes you guys show them become, generational players.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: And that's what they're looking for with the number two
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: pick in this upcoming draft. Very much you kind of
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: have to get it in. This draft especially oh in.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: The, disc draft there is no absolute consolation prizes. Zero
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: none the top four guys with development and with. Usually
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: strengths see most of these guys because they're eighteen nineteen
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: years Old, Minus boozer who's man are ready at six'
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: nine two fifty five?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: At?
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: Age eighteen yikes well, you call us well you're? Feeding
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: your son well? You're, feeding him well were?
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: You're?
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: Feeding, him yikes however most guys sewn usually, JUST generally
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: speaking i. Call them sean they have high hips and
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: their leggy and that their body frame is angular and
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: they've got to get muscle messed with their. Chest and shoulders.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: They're generally speaking so these guys are eighteen. Nineteen years
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: old so the top four guys are absolutely going to be.
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Ready ready eventually they have all star level talent as
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: young people once. They get stronger and again let's reinforce
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: right in their Top four Guys, Agent De, Bouncer Darren,
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Peterson Cam, boozer caleb wilson who's, his jumping jack unbelievable
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: young Fella talent from carolina and the next two guys
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: and five and six a Very Good also Keaton vogler
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: From illinois And darius A. Cup from arkansaw that should
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: be the first six and whatever order we'll find out,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: during the drift but all six of those guys are
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: absolutely tremendous young fellas And TALENT and sean i am, Keeked.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: About it.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Gordy some other news.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Around The association tray young is declining, his player options
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: so that makes him. A Free agent the wizards are
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: still the front runners to, re sign him but it
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: opens up The Market, for trey young and obviously they're
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: holding on to that number one overall, pick as well
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: so they want to get this right and add a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Talented rookie Of peterson at debonza to an already. Pretty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: loaded roster you don't Want To lose tray young. In
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: this Situation are the warriors at risk of somebody else
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: having a Better Offer.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: For trey young.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: It's unlikely he's in other worries he opt out to. Get, more,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: years yeah Yeah we'll find we're gonna find out he
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: opt out to get more years. On his contract And
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: You know trey young is, AGAIN he said i call
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: him a lightning. Rod point guard he's got talent and at,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: age twenty seven now is he mature enough to lead
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: a team or it's still it's still.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: All about him put, It.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: In context sean, just generally speaking if your point, guard
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: is moody the whole. Team is moody showing if your point,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: guard is erratic the whole.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Organization.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: Is erratic sean the guy selling hot dogs in the,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: twenty seventh row he's erratic right now because the, point
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: guard's erratic showing the guy selling sales, in the sale,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: trying to sell trying to sell stuff. For the organization
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: he's a erratic because the. Point guard's erratic they. Get
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: my drift so the point guard is the second most
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: important position, in professional sports and we.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Know, Number, one sean no it's. NOT even.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Close nfl quarterback, without a quarterback you do not.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Have a franchise you do.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: Not in basketball if you don't have a point guard
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: or a guy that plays like a point, guard in,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: words right now it. Definitely gets, blurred right now there's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: very few old. School, point guards? However guess what and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: the last five minutes of, every playoff game the question
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: always is who's? THE point guard i can assure You
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: when the Nicoboggis, beat the spurs the point guard?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Is Guess.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: Who jellen brunson i'm positive he was. The point guard, so, always.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: Say well basketball right now is positional list until why
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: you get to the playoffs?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: And guess what who's? Your point guard and?
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: Then you know then you know because why you get
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: exposed your lack of what we should have passed The
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: ball to wemby?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Instead of what? Given the ball So except the Knixt.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: Beat the spurs part of the reason, why not total
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: but part of It was because brunson is a better
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: point Guard Than the aaron fox in the last five
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: minutes of most.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Of those games is that? A fair, ADJUSTMENT well.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: YEAH i, think i mean the results speak, For THEMSELVES.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Absolutely but i would have said that even. BEFORE it
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: happened i would, Have said that and that just shows
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: you the. Value of it, so in jazz basketball as
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: far as in this, market right now getting That Point
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: guard kante george is a. He's a guard he can.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: Pass the ball you have a six point four, assists
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: a game which. Is really, good all right he's. A
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: scorer also, but the question as always this is that
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: you've as a point GUARD, in the nba you've got
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: to get your other teammates involved in the rhythm. Of
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: the game and so every once, in a while instead
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: of taking off and beating your guy, one on one
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: they get two feet, in the paint. Which is commendable
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: and you want to do that showing you make an
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: angle dribble to get the ball to someone coming off,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: a screening action to get that guy who hasn't shot
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: the ball in five.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Or six trips.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: Down the court they try to hit him in space
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: to get, him, going mentally, physically and spiritually to which
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: means now he'll be able to play better defense. Down
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: the floor he feels more involved and he'll crash the. Boards,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: more offensively.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: Gordie this is a complete left turn. Here FOR you
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: but i like left turns is how do you know?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Show my driving did you know you?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Show me driving we can tell by your incredible accent
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: that You've Got your.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: New, YORK roots oh.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I love it, and The Championship, the Championship Parade The
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: New York knicks championship parade very. Much this morning if
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: you're setting yourself up on, the parade route a guy who, knows, the, city,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: well yes right where?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Are you Going Are? You battery park are you? Going
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: right There down The?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: Canyon of Heroes Where would gorda chiers want to set
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: up his little lawn chair to get?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Into? This parade?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: Oh, The Canyons, ABSOLUTELY and sean i would pay a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars or sewing to sit in a long chair
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: a day before, THERE you Go, I get sewan i.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: WOULD give it i would pay a guy, one thousand
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: dollars a thousand dollars.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Save my. SPOT that's awesome i.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: Was any hesitation AND then also i Give, him some,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: starbucks all right if you had to whatever you had
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: to do to keep my spot. On the, thing remember
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 5: now they, they you know they fence you in and,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 5: once you go you. Can't get out and. So it's
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: interesting it's almost Like Going. To, Times, square yes sean in,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: CASE you're wondering i Did Go to times square in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: My youth, and december thirty, FIRST at night i was
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: there with my. CRAZY lunatic friends i Did Go to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: times Square For. The midnight Bowl.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: The images i'm seeing of the parade are it looks
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: like the most fun that. Could, ever be yeah past
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: you and you love, to see that because obviously after
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the close out after They Won, in san antonio there
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of, a you, know tom foolery there,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: was some vandalism there.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Were some shenanigans this the.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Team is there people, are you know simultaneously elated to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: see them and, cheering for them but not like, going
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: overly crazy being over. Zealous about it it looks like
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: the Most fun ever it's it reminds me Of When
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the chicago cubs Finally Won a world series and Everyone
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: in the Midwest descended on chicago for that.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Parade very much you mean The Curse.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Of.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Billy, goat yeah yeah they. Finally broke it they.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Finally broke, it and, again as always when there's so
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: many mess people in one situation and a few bad people,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: do weird things it doesn't take away from the joy.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: Of everyone else it's just. The numbers games, so, people
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: say well there's a lot. Of reckless people based on how,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: many people there, it's very few but they.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Talk About it and i've.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Said about that the most important thing is that there's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: A Celebration in new. York right now the, better team
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: won and that's the. Catchword right now the. Nickelbackers were
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: eighteen they were constructed Very Well. By Leon rose leon
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: rose is the general manager and the team President Of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: The new york, knicks right now and they were able
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: to get their, roster in place and everybody had a
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: defining moment to showing. Example Right Now so landy shammitt
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: is A free, Agent july first so.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Here we go his is.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: Parade Right now landy shammon right. Now is celebrating he's.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: Pounding his, chest, people say hey, We, love you lan, we,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: love you dog, we love you. We love you, nix
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: is saying, we love you. We love You and, in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: july first what's my contract? Going, to be hey, we
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: love you but we can't pay you. This right now
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: and that's what it. Gets so, Interesting, that's why sean
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: it's so. Hard to repeat because now players want to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: get compensated, based on winning and. That they should so
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: the question is how much. And so again. Here we
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: are They're Celebrating, in New York. Downtown new york it's. A,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: love fest. Hey it's wonderful and now for the, Last,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: eight years sean those are paraded in the city of
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: those teams, and guess what It didn't repeat.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: And it feels like it's not going.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: To Repeat again james dolan talked, about the, apron the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: apron the salary strictures that his team if he. Wants
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: TO repeat and i. DON'T like this i understand that
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: the interviewers HE went on Wfa And in new york
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: and they're asking him about the, sustainability of this the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: exact thing that you. Just brought up it's been a
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: brand new champion every year for the. Last, eight Years well,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: the knicks fans now that, they taste this. They wanted
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: again they. Want it again. They wanted again but there's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: some salary cap mechanisms that are going to, make that, really,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: really difficult because just like we were talking About With,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: the utah jazz you got to, extend some guys or
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: you have to try to get some people that are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: underpaid right now up to kind of the market value
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: for Their Contruct and james dolan was, asked ABOUT that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: and i hate throwing cold water onto it the day.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Before a parade but, he was like we're not going Into,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: the second. Apron absolutely not, can't do it. Won't DO it,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: AND i mean. I don't know There's only what cleveland
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: was the only team that went Into the second apron.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: This, past year yeah they're knocked out, in, The playoffs underachieved,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: so they're saying. Wait, a second remember most owners are, very,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: smart people sure and their other business they are absolutely
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: get it right almost. All THE time but i, think
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: called sports it gets a little different now because it's so. Emotional,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: about it yeah it's so different. Being AN owner as
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: i said this all the time as far as a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: sports owner when, They say too when people say to, You're,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: an owner hey what's the difference between your other business and,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: owning a team the, owner, always says oh. It's much,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: different how well and my other business that the owner
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: the average workforce is forty, two point five but in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: my basketball business, or hockey business the average age is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: what twenty three point five wild and so his, twenty
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: year gap give a take a, year or two and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: that makes. Everything so different it's so it's. So different
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: dynamics you're dealing with a highly paid workforce that's really
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: relatively young versus a highly paid of holly paid workforce
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: that's in the top of their game at, age forty,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: five forty, seven fifty. One fifty two, What, a difference sean.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: When you're looking at what these teams have to figure,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: out salary wise and An owner like dolan who doesn't
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: exactly have, the best reputation and then he's got to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: answer a question, about would, you you know would you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: spend max money in order to get this?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: CITY another, championship.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I mean he just straight, up says no which why
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: hurt the feelings of your fans when they're wild they're still.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Celebrating a championship but the other thing about this is
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: the reality he can now be a lot greedier financially
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: than he was because you get like a ten year
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: leash now that you've won a championship, in, every business
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: right your franchise delivers a championship to, the fan base
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: the first one in. Fifty three years you now have
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: like probably a decade of skating by however you want,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: to skate by, because, you're like yeah but remember that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Championship we want remember that twenty twenty six?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: CHAMPIONSHIP we want I Mean. The utah jazz If Somehow
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: this utah jazz franchise DELIVERS you, an nba championship you're
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: good as a fan for like at, least five. Years maybe,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: ten oh. Yeah very much you're living on that for.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: The foreseeable future it's a Little Different in. New YORK
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: potentially but i kind of hate That For the new
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: york Knick, fans because dolan after, never getting there, not
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: getting there, not getting there not having having this exist,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: that they wanted he. Finally has it and, now he's,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: LIKE yees see i CAN do whatever, i want now. And,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: he will.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Yes he can and If You're a nick fanders GENERALIZATION
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: of an nba situation where the original Money from the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: knickerbockers was A, company called, Cablevision. So Sure Sean so,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: James Doones's, father charles dolan back in the nineteen, fifties
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: and sixties his, What, He invented sean they invented the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: technology where in every hotel room, in the country when
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: you want to, watch a movie you press A button
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: for at that time, six, ninety, nine seven nine. Eight
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: ninety nine that was them the Original cable vision are?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: You kidding me and that so that gave them the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: seed money to, say the least the boy member the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: the Organization, owns The, knicks The, Rangers The, garden Radio
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: city the Rockets. And other uh the sphere Is, Sphere,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: in vegas.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Vegas and now the new one that's Being? Built in
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: saudi Is? That Worth yeah in Saudi For An Abu,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: dhabi mane. Yeah uh yeah and ACTUALLY there's a i
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: don't know if you would call. It a conspiracy there's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: a theory out there that The reason the knicks we're
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: able to create this championship run is Because.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Of the sphere have?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: You?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: HEARD this no. I, have not.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: No tell me there are business folks in basketball folks
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: who think that the Reason that the knicks finally got
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: over the hump here Is because the sphere has been
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: occupying So much of dolan's personal attention and time and
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: like He flies to vegas. All the time he's like
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: he's trying to make the sphere a thing and, a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: franchiseable thing so we can build four or five more
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Around the world they Want One.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: In hong kong he Wants It, in abu dhabi he Wants,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: it in vegas he Wants. It in london and there
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: are a lot of business people who think because he
• 1:13:53
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  Speaker 1: Story gordy what's? Your list today?
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  Speaker 5: My, List today sean it's absolutely a short list because
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  Speaker 5: players the ultimate HERE we go nba PLAYERS with, an
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  Speaker 5: bill walton did. All those Things number Four kareem abdul
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  Speaker 5: Guy nickerbocker's, Name Guess. Who jalen. Brunson that's it five
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  Speaker 5: players in the. History of basketball and let's give it One,
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• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Olympic Gold medal michael jordan did it twice in nineteen
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  Speaker 5: original Dream team and magic did it in nineteen ninety
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• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: bill russell russell had been, in, his group absolutely he did,
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  Speaker 5: all the things but THERE was no mvp in the
• 1:16:46
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• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: TROPHY For the nba finals Is Named, after bill russell
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: who would have won all of them, every single year but.
• 1:17:00
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  Speaker 3: One of them.
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  Speaker 5: List of today i'm looking fowe to find out. About
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  Speaker 2: important moments of her TIME. With The wnba deon Sanders
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: ows The university of colorado. Fifty thousand dollars he has
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: a bonus in His Contract for new year's. Six bowl
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  Speaker 2: games that's two hundred grand If he makes If he
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: takes Colorado To a new year, six bowl game he
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  Speaker 2: gets an extra.
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  Speaker 1: Two hundred grand this.
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  Speaker 2: Is from that, this past season the season before WHEN
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: they played byu in.
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  Speaker 1: The bowl game.
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  Speaker 2: The bonus in his contract For A non new year
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: six bowl game is one hundred and, fifty thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred.
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  Speaker 2: And fifty grand obviously fifty thousand dollars less than making
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: It To a new year. Six bowl game but for,
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  Speaker 2: that bowl game what was? That the alimable alimable is
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: That That's not new year. Six exactly interesting so the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Alimable Not a New year's. Six bowl game they paid
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: him the two hundred. Thousand Dollars Bonus, overpaid dion sanders
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: which is just kind of A. Theme in colorado they're already.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Overpaid pretty drastically they've been. Overpaid, HIS bonus now i
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: imagine when you're paying a guy like ten million, dollars
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: a year and then a little internal, audit, you find, hey,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: we actually coach we.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Actually gave you an. Extra fifty grand we gave you an.
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  Speaker 2: Extra fifty grand, you're probably like can we just take
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: it out of?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: The next paycheck that fifty grand out of? The next paycheck?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: You know, what even better how about you make that
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: a gift. To the university would you just? Donate it back.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Could you get it back to our?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Our, nil fund coach could you do that fifty dollars
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  Speaker 2: turn it into some good pr can you can you
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  Speaker 2: throw that the way of our punter or. Something, like
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: That Yeah so dion sanders overpaid, fifty thousand bucks which
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: is the funniest headline because he's really overpaid about. Six,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: million bucks yeah but if you don't, read the, story you're,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: like hold on it's more. Than fifty grand he's overpaid
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: by and you can understand why they would have been
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: really excited.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Enough to what oh we got we got.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: To it almable we, won ten games We got, a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: heisman trophy, like that's yeah that's the two. Hundred, kb on,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: oh hold on we got a little too Excited, about
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: the alamable especially after GETTING rocked by.
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  Speaker 1: Byu and that.
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  Speaker 2: I'll, tell you this if you are if you're in
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: a job where you're, under contract somewhere do you have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: a contract, WITH your employer i promise you your employer
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: has no idea what's. In that contract your employer might
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: not even have a copy of that contract. On file
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: somewhere stranger, things, have, Happened no sir, i'm, TELLING you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: like i had a conversation not so long ago with
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: my BOSSES. At the pfl they had no idea about
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: a clause that was in My contract, that i'm like
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: this is like one of the more serious and important
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: thing that's in things that's. In my contract i've been
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: acutely aware of its existence in the contract since the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: very beginning. OF the contract i knew when that. CLAUSE
• 1:23:50
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• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: Clause kicked in they had no idea it. Was in
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: there they had no clue it was in the person who,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: signed the contract the person who. Approved the contract there's.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Like multiple layers there's redundancy in an organization. Like that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: one there should be like four people who know what's.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: In my contract. There was zero so if you're out
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: there and you've got some bonuses, IN your contract i
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: don't want to encourage you to, do anything unethical but
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: you might for the sake of. Research purposes only you
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: might just for the sake of getting to the bottom.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Of corporate communication let's say you've GOT like a, i
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: don't know a sales bonus that kicks in if you hit.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: A certain target the company owes you an extra. Bit
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: of money just go tell them you made tell them you.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Hit the, bonus, be like hey my sales bonus should kick.
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  Speaker 2: IN this month i. Hit my target you guys owe.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Me fifty grand they're probably, gonna pay you and then
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: they won't realize that they made a mistake until a,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: couple years later and then you might have to. Pay
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: it back but just for research purposes on you. Just
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: do it and you don't even, take the money, just,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: be like hey just, so you know you guys were
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: about to PAY me something i. Didn't even earn i'm
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: learning this. In corporate culture they just don't have your.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Contract laying around IT'S Wild and i, i'll say again
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Going Back to deon sanders winning ten games and Going To,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: the ala mobile that's an Exciting. Year for colorado so
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: maybe just got a little too. Excited about it there's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: been a lot of really fun stories that have emerged
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: on social media About how much europeans in particular Are Enjoying.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: THE united states i am CONVINCED more than i was
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: even before this thing started that it is actually a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: crime that there's no games Being Played In salt lake
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: city that were not a host city because what people
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: are enamored With About the United, states of america a
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Lot of these europeans. Are enamored with we have, in
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: droves right all these people that Are going to georgia And.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: Going to texas they're walking around on, their social media they're.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Posting the views like did you guys Realize how?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Nice americans are they're being Treated to, The southern hospitality
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: they're being treated To like. The texas hospitality Imagine if
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: these Europeans. Were, IN utah Yeah i Mean. Georgia and
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: texas that's. The southern hospitality. Not surprised that, that's, Their
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Surprise Right and kansas city is one of. The host
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: sites i'm sure they're They're on. The midwestern place, they're
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: just like can you the people here? Are So Nice and.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Kansas city similar they're gonna have a Similar Experience in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: kansas city than they Would Here. In salt lake, that's similar, sized,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: city market whatever not the giant tourist Attraction That Is
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: new york city and some of. These other places, so
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah they i'm not. Surprised those places but if
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: they're saying That about Like Boston, and new york then
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: you know it's Not great in europe for engagement when you.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: ENGAGE with strangers i saw a Video Of a south
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: african fan just walking in a park and he was
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: narrating the video of him walking. In a, park he's
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: like you. Have no idea this is THE nicest park i.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Have ever seen and there are women walking around here
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: carrying designer bags and they're just. Being left alone, people
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: are waving, they're being. Nice they're smiling He's Wearing a.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: South africa shirt people are taking telling me WELCOME. To
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: the usa he was like in awe and he's just
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: walking through like. A regular park They're all these europeans
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: are all fascinated by the vastness of the, distances between
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: towns the natural Beauty Of. The united states all these people,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: are just like, oh my gosh and this is The
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: greatest that i've. Seen so, far ranch dressing which is
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: not easy To. Find in europe ranch dressing Has got
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: the european fans all up.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: In a, TIZZY and.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: YEAH i can i can concur ranch, and peanut butter not.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: In great Supply. I'M in europe i once went my
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: one of my good friends, and his wife both good.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Friends of mine WE went to i went to high
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: school with. Both of them shout Out. To the shreeves
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: they Were. Living in china they Were. Living in shanghai
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: it was working for a firm OVER there when I Was,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: in san francisco and, they, were like dude come Visit.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Us In china, and i'm, Like all Right And from
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: San francisco to shanghai that's like a five. Hundred dollars
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: flight that's like how. Long is that it's like sixteen.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Hours or something it was a. Really long flight it's.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: A long flight. YOU gotta connect i had To. CONNECT
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: through japan i. Think, giant ocean YEAH h but.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: I mean so it's.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: A long flight but it was a very accessible thing from. A.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Cost standpoint yeah, and they're like, come visit us you could.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Stay with, us, i'm like okay this is gonna be the.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Greatest thing.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Ever Did it, so i'm, like all right you guys
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: want me to bring anything because they've Been living in
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: shanghai for three years, and peanut butter, and they said bring.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: A ranch dressing, i was like why don't you just
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Go to shake why don't you just go to the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: Supermarket And, get it's shanghai that's like one, of the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: largest most metropolitan cities.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: On the, planet they're like you can't. Get it here.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: I'm, like okay so and then they wanted they had
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: they were having, their second child and, they were like
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: we need you to bring. Us this, stroller, I'm like
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: okay i'll. Bring a stroller and it ended up being
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: like bigger. Than my car it was like the biggest
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: pain to freaking lug through the reimbursed, you, and, Yeah yeah,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: yeah THEY'RE like but, i carried, IT you know i
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: checked it in and it was like. An oversized bag it's,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: this massive stroller but it was more. Than worth It
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: but so i'm Like this weird american tourist who's bringing
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: a gigantic baby stroller and like two Of those humongous
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: costco size hidden Valley ranches that, i've of course because
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: of the pressure, Changes in airplanes i've like hyper wrapped
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: them duct tape and garbage bags and stuff like that
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: so they don't. Destroy my clothes but ranch dressing apparently
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: not easy to find in a lot of parts. Of
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: The world the europeans are going, crazy over it to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: the level that they're showing up to go back home
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: because not everyone is staying For The.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: Whole, world cup right, you fly over you've.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Been here, for five, days, a week whatever and now
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: it's time to go back to.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Your real life people are showing.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: Up at airports international airports with bottles of ranch dressing,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: in their bags and of course you can't go through
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: tsa your, carry on bag you.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Can't have ranch so Guess what something europeans?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Have been doing you know how when if you have
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: like half a bottle of water left when YOU'RE, going
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: through tsa.
• 1:30:51
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  Speaker 8: Golfers under, Par so far rory McElroy's your leader. At
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  Speaker 2: of the three that have ever done IT In a
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  Speaker 7: I'm SEEING exactly, what i expected which is just a very.
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  Speaker 7: hour fog, delay this morning and so it is testing
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  Speaker 7: every part. Of everybody's game you're so you're just, just For,
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  Speaker 2: gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: Is this something that the, Guys, Are like yeah i'm
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  Speaker 7: They, relish it well there's a saying in professional golf there's,
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  Speaker 7: TWO under par i just don't make. That MANY birdies
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  Speaker 7: they set the courses UP For, the us open they
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  Speaker 7: want they want you to be. Right AROUND par and
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  Speaker 7: i was just talking. To your producer there's A great
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 7: stat THEY'VE Had four Us opens at shinnikock and only
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 7: three people have ever finished The tournament under.
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  Speaker 1: Park and two were in.
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  Speaker 7: The, same year YEAH and and i believe they were
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  Speaker 7: two under. And one under it it's not like they
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  Speaker 7: went to. ELEVEN or, twelve i MEAN it's, LIKE i
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: said i played there. MANY years ago i hit a
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 7: great drive on the FIRST hole and i had a
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 7: perfect little sandwich and it took more balances before it
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 7: started to spin and barely held. Onto The green and.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 7: I'm like wow and then YOU Mix in us OPEN
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 7: Setup and us open pressure and you're seeing exactly what we.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 7: Expected To see and rory McElroy's having. A great round
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: he just bogied, his seventeenth pole but he's still. Too
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: under par and then the BEAUTY Of the, Us, open
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 7: here jean is. Anyone can qualify if you have a,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 7: handicap low enough you can enter. The local qualifier you,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 7: get through that and then you can go. To the
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: sectionals and you have a couple, of good rounds and
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 7: YOU'RE Playing the us open right right, alongside the professionals
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: and there's a couple of. Qualifiers in there they, are
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 7: professional golfers but they had to go through the qualifying.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: To get in and here they are near the top of.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: The LEADER board so i ALWAYS Love the us open
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: for that aspect. Of it Too because the masters, is
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 7: invitation only the criteria for qualifying, are very STRICT But,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 7: the us, open, it's like hey if you're good enough
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 7: and you, shoot, the scores yeah let's go to shinegoque
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 7: and see. What you have so really. Lots OF fun
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: and i think the, regular EVERYDAY golfer which i, AM
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 7: one now i like to watch them struggle, a. LITTLE bit.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 7: Don't i don't it's not as fun FOR me when
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 7: i watch a guy shoot sixty two. AND sixty four
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 7: i love it when a guy's really grinding and getting
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 7: up and down and making par putts and figures out
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 7: a way to shoot two or Three hundred part and
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 7: that's what they're.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Doing this week, so right now?
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: What six guys seven guys under par, at the moment
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: and obviously you got three more, days of this SO
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: everything and i think we'll regress back to The mean
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: and shinnakok will probably have similar results to what it has.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: Every single, YEAR whose, game i mean we see the,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: leaderboard right now whose game is best fit for this
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: course and maybe.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Even, THESE conditions.
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  Speaker 7: Well i mean it's easy to say rory because he's tied,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 7: for the lead But it is rory and Those. Types
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 7: because shinnikok the one thing it's a bit generous for
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 7: is you can the driving, areas are generous and that's
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 7: UNUSUAL For a us. Open set up normally the driving areas.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 7: Are quite narrow you hit it in the rough and
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: you really are you really have to just hack it
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 7: back to the fairway and see if you can get
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 7: up and Down For par the shinnecock has some really
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 7: deep rescue if you. Miss the fairways but the fairways.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: Are pretty generous so the guys who'd like to bomb,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 7: and Gouge it like Bryce and d chambeau and those
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: types who need a little bit more, wide driving area
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: they're they're gonna be a they're gonna have a little
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 7: bit better TIME With a us open. Setup like this
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: and he hasn't even. Teed off Yet, we mentioned bryce
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: and we're delayed for two hours thanks, To The fog
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: so i'll be. INTERESTED to see i think, the morning
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: wave which you're they're just finishing their, ROUNDS right now
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: i think they got they probably got the worst of
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 7: the weather because the fog and the cold. And the
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 7: wind that's. That's NO fun and i think the afternoon
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 7: it's starting to get a, little bit. Sunny little warmer
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 7: the wind, is still up but it's a. Little more,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 7: Doable but well i'm sitting, at my desk not completely a.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 7: Bunch of work I'M Watching. The uf open so if
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: you're calling me about, Your real estate i'll get.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: Back to you let the man live all of your.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Real, Estate clients okay john right is our guess Here
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: on the shot O'Connell Show talking Us Open. At shinnecock
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  Speaker 2: hills we've seen some impressive. Putts made already what are these?
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Greens playing like for what?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 7: You, could see oh they are some, of the trickiest
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 7: Most diabolical greens i've. EVER played on i do remember on,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: THE eighteenth hole i hit a really GOOD shot and
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: i was about fifteen feet above THE hole and i
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 7: literally tapped it and it barely missed the hole and went,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 7: fifteen FEET by and i was. Just Like wow and
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: i've seen on some of the coverage, today AS well
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 7: where i believe it was jj' spawney hit the ball
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: onto the green and it was right at the top
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 7: of a knoll, and, THEY'RE like oh i can't believe. It,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 7: stayed there well they cut to another couple of players
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: and they Come back and JJ's hitting it out of
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 7: the bucker because the wind just tipped it a little
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: bit down one of the slopes and. Into the sand so.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 7: They're very difficult and you mix in wind and had
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: some rain and a little, bit of cold and they mix.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 7: It even, harder and honestly those are the Big numbers
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 7: that i've seen where a guy will get it, on
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: the green he's, out of position but he's on the
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 7: green twenty feet. Putting for, par, you think okay he,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 7: might make, par but worse he's. Gonna. Make bobe no next,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 7: thing you know he's three putts for a double and plummets.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: Down the leaderboard and we're going to. See THAT constantly
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: AND i think i looked. AT the weather i think
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: as the weather gets hotter and the, course dries out
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 7: it makes it. Even more difficult but we do have
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 7: to give Credit To The United. States golf association they
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: knew this. Weather was coming and the greens aren't nearly
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: as fast as they normally are because, with this wind
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 7: the ball wouldn't even.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Stay on them that's going to be.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: My next QUESTION this, wind i mean how do you
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: play if it's already a, tough course layout how do
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: you play in this wind on?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Top, OF that.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 7: Well i think it's for the. Mentally extreme strong you.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 7: Have to be you have to realize how tough it
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: is and not get. Frustrated the minute the minute you
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 7: let this get you frustrated and you start to you
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 7: start to press things and try to and try to
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: get it all back. On one hole that's when it
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 7: gets away from you and. It's very difficult and that's
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 7: where a good caddy comes. In AS well, where i
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 7: mean You're Looking at scottie scheffler was all the way
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 7: up to. Three over par it's so easy for a
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 7: lesser player, to just say, you know what this is
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 7: too hard and then you just kind. Of give, up
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 7: you don't, you don't quit. But you don't you don't
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 7: give it. Your best anymore you're. Kind of frustrated the next,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: thing you know you turn a three over par into
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: an eight over par and you. Miss a cut so
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 7: it's just it's a. Real mental grind these guys when they,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 7: finish their round they're they're going to, be physically tired but.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 7: Mentally it's exhausting.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: When you're.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: Battling everyone's battling kind of just to be at par
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: is a, bogie more daunting or, is it, like all
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: right well everyone's making, THESE mistakes today i, CAN you
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: know i can get back. To the field how do
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: you process that when you're on a, Course, like, this.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 7: Well honestly that, Is. The key sean it's when you
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 7: get yourself. Out of position you're no longer on an.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 7: Easier golf course you hit, a poor drive You're. Still
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 7: thinking bertie when you hit a poor drive into the
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 7: deeper STUFF At the Us Open, at shinnecock hills you're trying, to,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 7: figure out okay let's give myself a chance for par
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 7: and no. Worse than bogey and some bogeys are very
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 7: acceptable when you're out of POSITION At. The us open
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 7: and there's plenty of times when you are and you're happy,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 7: with the bogey and you'd gladly go to the next
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 7: hole with that boguey because you can make that up
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 7: with one good shot on the next hole and you're
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 7: and you're right back. To even par it's the doubles
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 7: and triples that just. They'll kill you, and so yeah
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 7: you have that's another part of The mindset that i'm
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: talking about is where you have to change your expectations
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 7: and you really have to Be, okay with hey look.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 7: A bogey here let's get, out of here no worse
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 7: than that and go to. The next hole and it's very,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 7: difficult to do especially for these guys because they're used
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 7: to they can hit any, shot any time and, they're,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 7: always thinking berdie.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Is this a place because of how?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: Notorious it is is this a place that guys will
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: on a free weekend or, In the offseason, we'll be,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: like you know let me go get some Reps. In
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: at shinnecock if they know that, there's YOU Know a
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: us open, Date coming up have these guys put in
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Extra rounds at shinnacock in preparation?
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: For, THIS weekend well, i think.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: So especially the guys, with private planes because it's all
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 7: the way at The Tip of Long Island, in east
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: hampton so it's not easy. To get, THERE in fact
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 7: i think the traffic out there, is a, joke so
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 7: everybody most of the fans are on coming. Off the,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 7: train but no WE Had the, US open here i
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 7: believe it, was twenty eighteen so a lot of the
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 7: guys in the field have. Played It before brooks keopka.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 7: Was The winner then i'm a little surprised At how
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 7: well rory's pla he missed cut. In twenty eighteen, so,
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 7: it's it's uh it's not the easiest course, to get
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 7: to but it's such an iconic golf course that it'd
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 7: be one that if you Were In the, new york
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 7: area you'd probably go, and play it play That one
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 7: in national just just because it's such a. Great golf
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 7: course and and these guys they have their schedules that
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 7: they know. What they're doing when they get CLOSE To
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 7: a us open venue two or, three weeks ago they'll
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 7: they'll grab their plane and run up there and play
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: it all day once and then and then go back
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: to their. Regular tour schedules so the good players have definitely.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 7: SCATTERED it out i love.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: And simultaneously hate that that's the thing in golf when, you,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: could say well the guys who have, THEIR own planes
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: i love to do this because it's like it's just
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: not something we're accustomed to talking about. WITH other, sports
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: i mean plenty of those guys have the, money for
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: planes but it's obviously more part of the golf culture and.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: Getting, yourself Around.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 7: Well the jazz have. Their own plane it's just they,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 7: but you Know, the, Team, yeah yeah no it's for
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: the guys that. CAN afford it a lot. Of THEM
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 7: do when, i say that a lot of them do the.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 7: Fractional ownership stuff and so it just really for as much,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 7: as they travel it just it shaves hours and hours
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 7: off their total. Travel travel time it saves days per
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 7: year where they, can you know and then and not
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 7: to mention the fatigue and the lost golf club. And,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 7: everything else.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you, can you know if you got that
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: access to that and your family wants to be, part
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: of it if you. DO have, kids i mean it's
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: there's a reason that's the other half. Lives that way
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: it's the ultimate convenience if you can.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: PULL it.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: OFF i don't i, don't begrudge anyone but it's just
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: one of those things, where, you're like man how?
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 7: WOULD it be i found the best way to fly
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 7: private is with someone else's plane because that way you never.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 7: See Those bills so i've been lucky enough to be
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 7: on PRIVATE aircraft and i have no idea what the
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 7: jet fuel costs. Or anything else and THAT'S the way
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 7: i NEED it because i. Can't afford it it's like it's.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Like it's summertime it's like. The boat thing the best
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: boat is. Somebody else's boat.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 7: It's the best you don't want, to absolutely true.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: You don't have to.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Deal with it although the official Stance of the sean
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: O'Connell show is go ahead and use, other people's boats. Bring,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: gas money okay don't put that on. The boat owner we're,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: always chip in all right that if you're a listener,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: to this show chip in.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 7: Or, At, least offer yeah.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: At least offer maybe not with, THE jet fuel i
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: imagine that's a little bit more daunting of, a chip
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: in but, with the boats you can at least.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: Do.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 7: That totally hey, By The, way zach blair, our local favorite?
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: Who again who zach is not having a good YEAR
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 7: On the pga tour's hat of back. Couple of years he's,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 7: battled some injuries but just, Like Anyone else zach blair
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 7: went to the qualifying went through and shot a couple
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 7: of good scores and actually won. His qualifying site and
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 7: he has burdied. His first hole and when you bury,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 7: the first hole You jump To tye for forth on.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: The leader board let's at, one under par so it'll
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: be fun to watch him see. How He does tony
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 7: finow or another local FAVORITE On, the pga tour he
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 7: was at the same Qualifying side as zach and he
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 7: was right there close and he made a couple of
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 7: late bogies and. Did NOT qualify So I think zach
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: blair is the one to watch if you want to Pull.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 7: For a utahan we DID. Go to byu we got to.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 7: Let it go.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: It's, all right sorry once, they become pros it's all
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: you just go for whoever's.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: FROM the area i.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: Agree With that scotty scheffler came into as a tournament
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: favorite for the, fifteenth straight major, AND you know i
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: don't know if the people, out there listening if your
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: big time sports, betters or not but the action was
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: on him early and now people are seeing the round
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: begin and so Now They're fading scotty scheffler and feeling
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: like it's not going to translate for him with this
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: course and, with his skill can he play himself back
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: to the top.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 7: Of, the field well if anyone, can do, it it's
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 7: him and he's he's, two over par which is what
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 7: three shots out, of the lead four shots out, of
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 7: the lead and he's got only three, Holes to go
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 7: so if he can get in, IT plus two i
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 7: think with the way he hit It, IN the cup
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 7: i was, watching him earlier with the way he, hit
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 7: the ball and he got a couple of bad breaks
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 7: and missed a couple, OF short cutts i feel like
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 7: he's Just fine because scotty can do things that the
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 7: whole rest of, the field cannot and we've noticed that.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 7: This year especially he's got off to a very poor
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 7: start in a lot of events and then made a
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 7: charge through the, last three rounds and some he's won
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 7: and some he's come. Up just short but if there's
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 7: anywhere you can, make up GROUND It's. The us open
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 7: AND by That I, mean johnny, miller for INSTANCE Won
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 7: his us open in nineteen Seventy. Three at oakmont he
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 7: shot sixty three in, the final round which was a
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 7: record By far at oakmont or EVER In. The us
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 7: open and he was done with his round almost two hours,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 7: before the leaders and he shot all the way. At
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 7: the leader gordon won and he didn't get. To a
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 7: playoff he just. Wanted out right so if you one
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 7: of those days where shinnecock doesn't matter how. Hard it
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 7: is if you're just completely in control of your golf
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 7: ball and you get, that putter rolling you can go
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 7: from tie for forty seventh in the first and it
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 7: can happen really fast because you don't have to, shoot
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 7: ten under you shoot four under a you leap frog
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 7: about half.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: The fields, total aside here do you have a horse
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: in the RACE In This?
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: Fifa?
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 7: WORLD cup boh I. Always liked spain we have A
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 7: couple of spanish Golfers on The university of utah Golf
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 7: team that i'm, still involved WITH and so I pull
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 7: FOR spain and i think, they're the favorite even though
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 7: that tie they had the other day was, a bit unsettling.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: Just only the first game. OF the tournament i think
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be. All right there there's a reason why
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: they're favored so and their best player didn't come on until,
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: after THE half so i think they.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 7: Were that's true and the obvious One Is, the UNITED
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 7: states and i never really give that much of a.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 7: CHANCE to do i hope they get out, of GROUP
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 7: stage and i hope they win a game or two in.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 7: The knockout stage but After watching, That paraguay, game i'm like, Wait.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: A minute yeah maybe.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 7: Maybe they're sucking me in and making me believe that
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 7: they are good enough to maybe go. All the, way
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 7: who knows.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: You know what i'm ready. To be hurt i'm ready
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: to have.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 2: My, heart broken, John if like i'm going to jump
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: all the way on this bandwagon and, have them, exit
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: you know in.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: Some tragic fashion but.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 7: You're a ute we've been sucked into this before, where
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 7: you're like, oh my god we're going, to do it
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 7: and then they. Break, your heart yeah nineteen ninety eight
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 7: comes to mind. For, the basketball yeah we'll do.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: It, All, together uh john enjoy the rest. Of this
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: tournament appreciate you.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: Jumping on. Today thank.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 7: YOU no problem i, Gotta. GO practice sean i am
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 7: actually playing across the pond myself here next Month In The. British,
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 7: senior amateur hello where's? That give you i'll give you Some,
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• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: To be in london Next. Month for wimbledon so, look
• 2:02:04
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• 2:02:07
  Speaker 7: Well it's my first trip, across The pond so i'm
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 7: a little nervous about it that they play a totally
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 7: different kind of, golf over There so hopefully i'll be
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 7: able to. Figure it out.
• 2:02:16
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• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, You know what i've been all over every, discount
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• 2:02:27
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• 2:02:30
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• 2:02:35
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  Speaker 7: At, This Moment yeah so i'll be an Economy plus.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 7: If I'm Lucky.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: That's john wright golf Inside our Former university of, utah
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: Golf Captain.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Decorated utah, Golfer.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 7: Thank you, John you're welcome. Thank you son brought to you.
• 2:02:54
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• 2:03:08
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  Speaker 1: Including zach blair.
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• 2:03:25
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• 2:03:35
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• 2:03:55
  Speaker 2: Favorite YouTube golfer Bryce and to, shambo warming up set
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• 2:04:03
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• 2:04:07
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• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: right Now bryson to shambo's his Reported alternative Is i'll
• 2:04:18
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• 2:04:21
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• 2:04:26
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• 2:04:36
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• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: YouTube golf channel show up at, random people's, rounds you
• 2:04:45
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• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: private jet, and you know take him to a course
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: like this one and, just, be like ah let's see
• 2:04:53
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• 2:04:59
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• 2:05:05
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• 2:05:09
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• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: Is a golfer he is a physical presence. On the,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: GOLFER all Right A little world cup. Talk Coming? Next
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: cristiano ronaldo is it time to bench the all time
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: goal scorer? In international competition sean O'Connell show on ESPN.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: Seven two fm you.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 4: Tune to The sean O'Connell Show For The murdoch CHEVROLET.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: Studio of espn.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: Is you ready for me to jump?
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: ON a bandwagon I never thought i'd be on it's
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: Time To.
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: Bench. Cristiano ronaldo, baby.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: You know in The Last time christiano ronaldo scored in
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: a Major tournament for portugal.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: Was it was, like twenty. Eighteen wasn't it it was like? Five?
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: Years ago, yeah even okay so not. Quite as long
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: you know what? Insane that is that is It probably
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: was euros TWENTY twenty because i think they played that in.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: One that's yeah he is forty, one YEARS old and
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: i am, By the way i'm taking every bit Of
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: This from taylor Twelveman's Appearance On The rich eisend.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: Show this, MORNING so, you i.
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: Mean soccer guy said it's SO of course i, can
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: say it and everyone accepts its.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: Accepts, it's true.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: Well the people who know are starting to question Whether
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: Or not christiano ronaldo is becoming a Liability for that
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: portugal team or if he's still an Asset for. That
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: portugal team and that was the crux of a good
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: portion of the conversation this Morning On the rich Eisen
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: On The. Rich isison show because he's forty one and the,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: Pace is different he's not as fast as he. Used
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: to be he doesn't have the fluidity of the twenty
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: forty year olds around him. In his game and the
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: other thing Here Is, that christiano ronaldo he is incapable
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: of letting a cross go past him to get to
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: the open. Guy behind him he. Can't do it, that's
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: my ball, it's his ball and of course.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: It's your ball he's been the leading goal scorer in
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: international soccer for. His entire career he's one hundred and
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: forty three goals. In international competition he, Is the guy.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: He's a megastar that is also like you, always talk
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: about you always hear when YOU watch an nba game
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 2: or a, college basketball game making.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: The extra pass so you have.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: An open three you might have a pretty open three,
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: from the wing but the guy and that the guy,
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: closest to you teammate, closer to you is wide open from,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: the corner three which is closer and a. Lot better,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: shot that's Like That's like steph, curry be it which
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: he makes that extra pass quite a bit right him,
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: him going no never make, the Extra Pass Because. I'M
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: steph curry i MAKE every. Three i, take it's Like
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: Not even steph curry makes every. Three he takes maybe
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: pass it to. The open guy That's Seems like christiano
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: ronaldo doesn't quite think that way.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: THAT soccer, Term i.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: Mean i'm a big body language guy when it comes
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: To Sports and world cup soccer is the worst place
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: for body language because everyone looks like they're dead when
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: someone steps, on their foot, they freak out they. Cry
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: like babies the whole body language thing. In international soccer
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: it's me trying to read A book that i don't
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: know what language. IT'S written in i have. To admit
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: That but christ jannilbernaldo's body language and facial expressions are
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: the kind of thing that you want to punch him
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: in the face if, YOU'RE a teammate. I Know you
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: like kobe was hard on, Everyone Around him michael jordan
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: was hard on. Everyone around him there's a certain level
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: of cantankerousness that you earn by being the best player,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: on the floor, on the field, on. The pitch whatever
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: and it's okay that, he's THAT way because i we
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: would all be this.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: Way If We.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: Were christiano ronaldo you're like, the best, looking most famous
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: most talented soccer player, on the planet and, no no
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: flaw no obvious flaw for people to point out and
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: be like and by the way take it.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: Down, a peg no you, don't, need to apparently.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 2: And he is like the he is the more friendly,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: of the Megastars Like like leo messi is known for
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: being a little bit aloof in a little, bit stand
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: offish right again forgivable when everyone on the planet wants
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: to get their photo taken with you and you. Don't
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: Want That ronaldo Christiano ronaldo is you can find a
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: lot more, examples of him like taking the extra moment
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: with the little kid that walks him out on the
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: on the pitch right like uh he an aaron kick
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: blasts one of the ball boys, in the face, and
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: he like he's the.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: Guy that checks. On HIM stuff so.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: I think that he probably like it as the human
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: off the field guy, just, is fine right or is
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: maybe even. Better than fine, as a teammate they have
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: to be accustomed to the like every time he makes
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: a run, at the goal every single time and the
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 2: ball doesn't end up, on his foot he, does that,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: like oh well he's like It's.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: From the sopranos all, of a, Sudden the hands oh?
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: Where's the BALL what am? I?
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 8: Doing here?
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: What we, like he's like why? Aren't you passing. It
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: to me he's got this look, and, he's like man.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: You haven't been the contributor that we expect you to
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: be for, five years now. And they're talking the coach
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: was asked last, night about well why should you have
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: pulled him, from the game, and, he said no. Of
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: Course Not, He's CHRISTIANO ronaldo and i think that's the.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: Only right answer guys that are in This It, is,
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: Lebron James right.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: He's they're the equivalent.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: Of one another they're the, same, Age effectively right they're
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 2: the superstars that for a long time we're the best player,
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: in the game and are no longer the best player,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: in the game but they're, still that dude they still
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: have this gravity about them.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: As.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: A Player Right and cristiano ronaldo has already made his
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: kind of free Agency Decision that lebron james is.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: Making this OFFSEASON where? Do i GO what?
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: Do i do, And he said, i'm Gonna go and
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: i'm gonna Be In, a Saudi league and i'm gonna
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 2: make an insane, amount Of money and i'm gonna finish
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: out my career in a place, WHERE you know i
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: will be adored and Worshiped and and I'LL win whatever
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: i want, to win THERE win the, mvp every year
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't even react TO winning the. Mvp every
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: year someone texted in the other day, And, was like
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: hey There's Actually the saudi league is.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: ACTUALLY really good.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 2: I saw that there's a lot of people that LIKE,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: MUCH like mls a Lot of. Elite european players they
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: go and they finish out there, for, obvious reasons. Right
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: highly paid the fans there are. Passionate about soccer i've
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: been over THERE doing a pfl event when They had
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: A Christian or al nasser, versus whoever match and it was.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: A big deal it was like a like SAW.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: It on tv you saw it all, around the community
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: saw a bunch of people going, to the stadium going,
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: to the, indoor, this massive massive massive indoor stadium that,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 2: they play in and so, It's all, great, It's Wonderful,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: right cristiano ronaldo they're asked the questions about him that
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: at some point we have to ask about every. Aging
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: superstar athlete are you now better suited to be deferring?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: To someone else we didn't have to have That Conversation
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: with lebron James because The lakers got luca and it just,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: answered The question.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: And lebron has always been, willing to defer so it's.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe too willing he's been criticized for.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: Deferring more often he's been criticized for doing the Opposite
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: Of what, christiano ronaldo does where it's like every ball.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: Is my ball plenty Of times in lebron's career, he's,
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: been like no that's. Not my shot you got three
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 2: guys coming, to defend me so.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: Here you go.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: You're more open yokich is, That way too so that
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: just a different breed Of superstar And Lebron and christiano
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: Ronaldo Is That kobe michael. Jordan type, superstar, it's like
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: no every ball Is mine and i'm. Going to score the,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: THING is though i think it is one Of those.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: Things i'm, Trying you know i'm not, a Sign expert
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: so i'm putting it on every other SPORT plane that i,
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: can Think of, And, I'm going okay you're in a
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: lose lose Situation as the portugal coach right now because
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: the result.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: Is not there.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: The entire world watched the other elite star players, in
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: The Game, including leo messi the guy that's always compared
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: his main rival he scored a hat trick and. You,
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: Scored nothing right yoh is a, little bit younger but not.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: That much younger.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: He's also.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: Half the Size But so leo messi scores, the Hat
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: Trick killing himbape holland and then The next day kane
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: and that was supposed to be the Same Day.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: THAT christiano ronaldo i mean. EVERYONE was. TALKING i was
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: i watched.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: THE betting discussion i watched it like one of these
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: betting podcasts where they, were just like there. Is no
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: chain it was a prop Bet Goals for christiano ronaldo
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: and they were debating on whether it was to be
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 2: one or two because, they're just like there's no way
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: he doesn't score a goal because of who, the competition
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: is but also because of what all those. Other guys,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: did too competitive. He's too competitive he's. Got this ego it, has,
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: To happen right he's got. To do it and that's
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: a totally reasonable line of thinking, in my opinion when
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: you're looking at somebody of his stature in the. Game
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: of soccer now that is of course the, uneducated opinion
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: here because then you, look at it you actually, do
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: the research, and it's like whoa it's been half a
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: decade since he has scored a goal for country in like.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: Meaningful Tournament Competition if lebron james had not hit a
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: Three for the lakers or for whoever he's playing for
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs, in five years we'd Be talking ABOUT.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: Lebron the gm we'd Be talking about lebron. The head
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: coach we wouldn't Be talking about. LEBRON the player i
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: know the, games are, very very different but that, is
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: a glaring glaring stat when we're talking about one of
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: the all time greats. In a sport if the thing
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: you're known for is something you haven't done, on this
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: stage at.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: Least, for five.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: Years That's wild patrick mahomes coming out here to be
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: the starting Quarterback For The, kansas city chiefs he hasn't
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: thrown a touchdown pass. In five years, you'd BE like what,
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 2: i mean again not, apples to apples a totally different
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: level of difficulty on.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: Scoring a goal but it's the thing. You're known for
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: it's the, Thing, that.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: Like also these world tournaments, Aren't every year this is
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: not this stat does Not Just, include world cup but,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: it's less opportunities but it's, still enough Opportunities You'd expect
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: christiano ronaldo to put one in the back.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 4: Of the.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: Net he is he Is.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: Probably THE lebron of nba in that a lot Of
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: people say lebron is the second greatest player, Of all time.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: Jordan's the greatest there's plenty that say the, other WAY
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 2: around but I think that's i think that's what washes
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: Out mostly and messi is the people say the greatest player.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: Of all time ronaldo is one of the people that
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: they say is probably. The next greatest and it's shocking
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: that someone, of that stature, like you said it's gone
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: this long without scoring in a in a major world
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: tournament like this or national team, tournament like this like.
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 2: IT'S it's unprecedent i think it's even Worse That's that
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: harry kane ended up later in the day. Yesterday Scoring
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: Two because, harry kane's great he's not The Stature, of
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: christiano Ronaldo And yet harry kane is the, one, they're
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: like oh the superstars. Are Doing It see harry kane,
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: did it too And it's like, christiano, was, LIKE yeah,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: MAN i. Missed i didn't if you're the if you're
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: the superstar who doesn't hit a home run in the
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 2: playoffs and everyone else isting a home run. In the
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: Playoffs Office, like aaron judge where, Are? You at bud
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: it's a great it's a great person to Bring Up
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: because aaron judge has been.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: Notorious for that what, Happened?
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 4: To?
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: YOU bud right i mean it's these are the odd
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: dynamics of stardom and superstardom because nobody thinks much Of
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: you as portugal, as it like no one is talking
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: about you if You Don't, have christiano ronaldo or they're
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: talking a lot less about you if You Don't. Have
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: christiano ronaldo But Then when christiano ronaldo is not producing
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: the way that he's, supposed to produce it's it's just
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: like in every other.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: Sport, where, you're going huh? What's?
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: Going on here is their meat? On the boat and
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: then the coach has to answer. Questions about it the
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: teammates have to answer. Questions, about it hey is it
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: time for him to come? Off the Bench That was
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: taylor twelman shouting it. From the rooftops that'd be terrible
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: to get that question as one.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 3: Of.
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: His teammates coach it's a tough.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: One answer too, as the coach but as one, Of
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: his peers, i'd be. Like absolutely not that's even if,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: In the, background i'm like please bring him. Off, the
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: bench yes if you're the dude who's standing behind him,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 2: when the cross you're you can head that thing into
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: the goal and you can win this game. For Your
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: team but, christiano, Is like, Nope i'm streaking i'm, taking
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: it's mine and, you're, just like yeah that would be
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 2: nice if actually you would just get him out of here,
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 2: for a, minute but probably but you can't do it
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 2: because you're twenty four and, he's forty one And he
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: is he's the Golden god of, portuguese soccer ever and
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: you're not just getting like you. Can't do it. There's
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: no world it's a. Lose lose situation there's no world
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: in which you can as, a media member, as a
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: fan even you can call for him, to be benched
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: you can call for his.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: Role to change you cannot do it if you're.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: On, the Team no he's that's where, you say yes
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 2: but you're nodding vehemently yes, or SORRY no sorry i.
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: Messed that up it's where you say no but you're, nodding, vehemently, no,
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: no no no don't bring him, off. The bench coach
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: uh and if, if he does if they do decide
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: to bring him, Off the bench soccer is one of
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 2: those sports where one of those games where you can
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: bring him in started the second half and he can
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: still be a big part of the, closing the game
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: which is.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: Still, very valuable. YEAH that's uh i don't expect. It
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: To Happen.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: That's christiano Ronaldo they're not portugal is not bringing there
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: the greatest player in. Their nation's HISTORY and, like i
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 2: said a lot of people think maybe the second greatest
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: player of all time or, in that conversation, off the
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: bench but. The, greatest goalscorer yeah, an international competition, men's
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: international competition, all the.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 1: Time it's him so he's twenty something Goals. Ahead Of
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: messy So messi is messi Is For, the, world cup specifically.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: He's tied Tied For, the World cup but rinaldo has
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: it for all the other World Like eure european championships
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: and all that. Kind, of Stuff, yeah he's Wow he's
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: a he's one hundred and forty three International goals and messi's.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: Like one two apparently There was a canadian lady who
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: scored one hundred and. Ninety, international, goals gosh, yikes all right.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: One more break we're gonna Give away. Some, lagoon passes
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• 2:23:27
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• 2:23:34
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• 2:23:39
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• 2:23:40
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• 2:24:30
  Speaker 10: round press conferences where the players just. Bitch and mode
• 2:24:34
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• 2:24:38
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• 2:24:39
  Speaker 10: master that's my favorite. Tournament to watch some PEOPLE Love, the,
• 2:24:42
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• 2:24:46
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• 2:24:51
  Speaker 3: this with.
• 2:24:51
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• 2:24:53
  Speaker 10: a half, Which IS fine but i wonder what like
• 2:24:55
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• 2:24:59
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• 2:25:00
  Speaker 10: HAVE a chance i don't think you. HAVE a prayer
• 2:25:04
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• 2:25:08
  Speaker 10: if you play so as since, HIS public knowledge i
• 2:25:13
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• 2:25:14
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• 2:25:15
  Speaker 10: Not go well when you follow every single, dopey archaic
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 10: rule this sport has you pile up. Shots pretty quickly
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 10: it's a much different deal than just going out on
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 10: the weekends and trying to break eighty with Your Buddies
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 10: at mountain, dell Or something which i'll be trying.
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 3: To do anyway how's? The show, today it's.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: Good. Good.
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 3: Show interesting gordy. Gordy's always great we were talking about.
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 10: This off air you forget that most of the best
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 10: players in jazz history were not. Top five, picks in
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 10: fact like almost all of them Outside Of like Darryl Griffin.
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 3: And darren williams.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: And the other thing about It is like gordy's list
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: was about all the guys the most, impactful draft picks
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: and then he didn't do his his, list, of like
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: oh you could have. Drafted, differently, here yeah right because
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: there's there's a. Ton, of those, also it's drafting and
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: every sport is, in exact science and it's, really really
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: tough and it feels, like this draft there's nobody's even
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: accounting for, the possibility, that you Know Aj or Cam
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: Boozer or Caleb Wilson, or darren peterson could it just
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: end up. Not, Being great yeah but when there's been
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 2: so many players that we, were, just, like oh yeah
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: that guy's definitely gonna kill IT, in the nba and
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 2: then they don't.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 10: Happens, every year happens every draft cycle usually happens with top.
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 10: FIVE draft, PICKS i mean i do think that's what makes,
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 10: this GROUP unique Because i heard gordy talking about this
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 10: and it appears to. BE a consensus i think one
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 10: of the reasons why we saw such a gregious approach
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 10: to competition this year is most people who analyze this
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 10: stuff do believe that these four guys specifically are as
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 10: close to can't miss as you've ever seen in. The top,
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 10: four you know you go Back, To, that Lebron mellow
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 10: D Wade shoutout. Darko milichick draft those four guys were
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 10: thought to. Be great players obviously didn't Work, out For, Darko,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 10: but lebron Mellow and d wade turned out to be
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 10: all The famed players and when that type of talent is.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 10: At your disposal I'll underscore what i've been saying for a.
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 10: LONG long time i cannot accurately Frame How important tuesday
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 10: night Is For, The utah.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 3: Jazz like you have to. GET this right.
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 10: I feel like there's more Attention On the darren peterson
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 10: not working Out for the jazz than there really. Needs
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 10: To be the angels don't. Give a rip they. JUST
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 10: don't Care i think austin showed us that Last Year.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 10: With As Bailey if darren peterson's on the board too
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 10: and they think he's the best, option for them Welcome.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 7: To The.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 3: Jazz darren peterson he's not gonna.
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: Have a.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: Choice that's right, it's which is, by the way one
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: of the really fascinating dynamics between pro, sports in college
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: which now that's, what it is and pro sports in
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: the pros with, under Collective Bargaining because darren peterson got
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: to do basically everything he wanted to do all the
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 2: way up. To this point and now, the hope is
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: of course that if he's Drafted, by the jazz, He's, just,
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 2: Like okay cool i'm going to make the. Best of
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: this i'm going to Learn To Love salt lake city
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: Like It appears ace bailey kind of got the right
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: mentality after all that silliness around his. Pre draft process
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: you hope that that's how, it turns out but it
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: might be a situation, where.
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: Guy's like what DO you mean i CAN'T go where i.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: Want to go i've been able TO do everything i
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: want to do IN basketball since. I was ten it's.
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 10: One of the strangest things about pro sports is that
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 10: you are literally the best in the world at, what
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 10: you do and, in a, minute, it's like yeah You live,
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 10: in cleveland now whether you like, it or not because.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 10: That's the deal and the other situation because You reference,
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 10: the Ace stuff whether ace likes, it or Not he's
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 10: in utah for. Probably seven YEARS the example i always,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 10: go back to and you remember This Like the, donovan
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 10: mitchell stuff because you never really know what's happening. Behind
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 10: the Scenes you remember donovan lands here and says all,
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 10: the right Things popping Into fourth, Of july parties he's
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 10: on the scene, of car accidents helping, damsels in distress
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 10: and he's like suddenly embraced in the city and, everyone,
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 10: was like oh we finally got a star player that.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 10: Loves it here and then in the drop, of the,
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 10: hat everything changed and behind the scenes it was clear
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 10: there was a power. Struggle going on so it's less,
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 10: about You know does darren want to be?
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 3: Here right now you don't.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 10: Have a choice it's More about and i've heard you,
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 10: talk about this AND you and i are on, the
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 10: same page and there's some. People that disagree smitty actually
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 10: isn't on THIS page where i think, It does matter
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 10: like if you Have intell the CAMERON boozers like i
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 10: want to BE here and i will LIVE here and
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 10: i will stay here for.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: My whole. CAREER that matters i think it.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 10: HAS to Matter i mean this is an organization that
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 10: has really just been unable to check the final box,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 10: of roster construction. Which is retained, it's, always, draft develop
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 10: retain it's the final box. Of Roster Construction the utah
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 10: jazz have not been able To capture Since. John and carl,
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 10: if we're honest.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: If you think of baseball Organizations Like, the minnesota twins
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: And Like The, tampa bay rays And Like the oakland,
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: athletics most notoriously there's been so many elite talents, that, are,
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: drafted identified developed brought through a farm system and then
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: just sold Off and the yankee or and, it's, just,
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: like oh yep now we have nothing to, show for
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: this and that is brutal because you Can't Win the
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: ultimate prize without those guys as. A. Finished, product right
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: ensure there's some value to like selling their jerseys while they're,
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: on the rise but when it comes down to competing
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: for what we Just Saw The new york knicks throw,
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: a parade for you have to have guys That Are
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: like Karl. Anthony towns is that's the finished product of
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: what he's going to be, in, his career right that's
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: he's not going to be better than what we saw
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: from him.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: In this series maybe that stays.
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: For five years maybe that he's done now brunts in
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: the same thing like if it had, five years ago
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: maybe not This Version. Of derek brunson now, you've got this, And,
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: it's like okay look what happens when guys want. To
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: be here they've made sacrifices in some cases, to stay here,
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: to be here and now we're chasing. This Thing Together
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: the utah jazz do need that, from their players and
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 2: That's Why the walker kessler clarification ON social media i
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: think was. Valuable and important his agents, are, probably, mad
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: like dude you're stripping your own leverage by saying, Things
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 2: like this but he's a, guy, WHO'S like yeah i want.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 2: To be here you got to make the numbers right
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: for him to feel. That way forever but it is
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: important that guys want to.
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 10: Be here well and to, underscore your point it's especially
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  Speaker 10: important Here because the jazz have to build through the
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  Speaker 10: draft and there there's, a you know their abilities to
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  Speaker 10: make trades to add veter players to. Expedite the Growth
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 10: That's what dennis Lindsay Did. With mike Conley But if
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  Speaker 10: mike conley was here as a twenty seven year old
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  Speaker 10: instead of a thirty four to thirty five even though
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 10: He Made an all star team and played really well And.
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 10: Everyone loves mike the Best teams in jazz History have
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 10: been jazz draft picks that. HAVE stuck, Around I mean
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 10: john carl didn't make the finals until they were in
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 10: their mid thirties and. They stayed Here and the jazz
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  Speaker 10: just will never. Have the ability i'll give, you an
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  Speaker 10: Example Like when Dennis Lindsay. Signed joe johnson it actually worked,
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 10: out Pretty Well but joe johnson was a shell of.
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  Speaker 10: His former self like If You signed joe johnson as
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 10: a free agent, at twenty eight, not thirty five it's different.
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  Speaker 10: Than a Guy and again joe played well and they
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  Speaker 10: made the playoffs and he actually hit a game winning Basket.
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  Speaker 10: Against The Clippers but joe Johnson came to Utah because
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 10: the jazz were willing to pay him a little bit
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  Speaker 10: more money at the age of thirty four than anyone
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 10: else who was willing.
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  Speaker 3: To pay Him It's like lionel MESSI coming to mls.
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  Speaker 10: In his thirties very cool and, He's still Awesome But
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 10: like lionel messi at twenty five is different than he is.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 10: At thirty eight so it is going to come down
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  Speaker 10: to identifying a young player who's, not just good but
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 10: you think he's going to ride with you. For A
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 10: decade austin ain Said This. On lottery, night he said
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 10: we want to find someone who's going to be with us.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 3: For a decade he.
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  Speaker 10: Said it himself so what does that Mean Concerning the?
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 10: Darren peterson stuff. Only, they know also what does it
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 10: MEAN With the. Aj, debonca Stuff Yeah, because aj debonca,
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  Speaker 10: like he is he has clarified that home For.
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  Speaker 1: Him IS.
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  Speaker 2: Boston gilbert a reinaz, is, just like yeah you toss.
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  Speaker 2: Home for, you, He's like no boston is.
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  Speaker 1: Home.
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  Speaker 2: For me yeah that was THE first time i heard
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 2: anything from anyone that, was, just like wait you're not
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: a guy who wants to own A bunch of swig franchises.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 2: When HE'S retired And aj debonsa Toyota. Down in sandy you,
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: Don't want that like you got to ask that question about,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: everyone so Well.
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  Speaker 10: Not in sandy you gotta watch after the gang, ACTIVITY
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 10: these days i just learned that such. A, WEIRD thing
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 10: yeah i MEAN with the aj stuff at.
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  Speaker 3: The very Least he.
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  Speaker 10: Has utah experience his parents, are living Here, he knows
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 10: ryan and, he's you know he's at Like almost every.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 10: Jazz home Game You see aj debont at A ton of.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 10: Jazz home games so the familiarity with the. Market is
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 10: important it does. Have to matter but if there's intel
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 10: behind The Scenes that darren peterson is potentially a guy
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 10: that is going to get, loose From You and cameron
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 10: boozer is giving you the indication that he is fine
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 10: living here, for ten years then maybe.
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 3: THAT'S the play.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know If You're a walker, kessler, level player
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: right you get. To PLAY anywhere what nba city do
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: you want? To be in you've BEEN to.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: Most, nba cities yeah you know about the kind of
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: culture and the reputation of most of these front Offices
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: And THE utah jazz i think have, an advantage there
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: and we.
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  Speaker 1: Love this place it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Universal for, everyone but like we're not talking About first
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: Ballot hall, Of fame player we're not talking About Multiple time.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 2: All star player we're talking about solid contributor maybe somebody
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 2: who ends Up As an all star as some kind.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: OF defensive Specialist i think walker could be that where
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: do you?
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: Want to be what IS the best Nba city? For Spence,
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: CHECK its yeah.
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  Speaker 10: I mean it's a fair question because you always have
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 10: to look at it through the prisms of where would
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 10: you want to be as a twenty five, year, old
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 10: millionaire right and what? Do you value and it's different,
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 10: for EVERYBODY because as i, remind everybody constantly we don't
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 10: Just Lose the donovan mitchell's who was traded but he
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 10: was going, to leave Anyway Or the darren williams who
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 10: was traded he was going, to leave Anyway even though. Dewell,
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 10: lives here now we lost the white guy who liked
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 10: to play video games after he was done with practice
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 10: and was.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 3: A family man. Hayward left too what do you?
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  Speaker 10: Value THE most because i think if you value a,
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 10: Committed ownership group ryan has shown he's willing. To write
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 10: checks if you value a, good coaching staff will, has
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 10: that reputation the front office has a pedigree of being a.
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 10: CHAMPIONSHIP front office i think there's a lot to like
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 10: About what the jazz are doing and the quality of life.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 10: Here is great so as FAR as, AN nba, city,
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 10: i mean look it's Hard to. Beat south beach it's
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 10: hard To, beat southern, california the weather, of the scenery.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 3: All that stuff but it comes down to.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 10: What you value but the other Thing with the walker
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 10: dynamic is for years people have talked about he hates
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 10: losing so much that he's not Enjoying what the jazz.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 10: Have been doing so if you, really value winning this
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 10: is a massive Year for the Jazz to, show, walker
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 10: like yes you can play for us when we're actually
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 10: trying to win and we have growth in, the right
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 10: direction you could do a Lot Worse. Than salt lake that. In, my,
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 10: opinion now again as a twenty five year, OLD single
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 10: millionaire I don't. Know walker's deal isn't He DATING like miss?
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 3: Usa, Or Something.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah Miss UNIVERSE or miss. Usa, Or something Yeah so.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe walker's not the type that just wants to be
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 10: out on the town. All the time but it's also
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 10: a different, world these days where back, in the day
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 10: if you were Drafted, by The jazz like, Carl lived here,
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 10: John Lived here mark. Eaton lived here all these, players moved,
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 10: here lived here, bought homes, here and yes in, The
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 10: off season john would famously pack up his van And.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 10: Drive TO spokane but i don't know how many of
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 10: the current jazz players actually. Have roots here most of these.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 10: Guys have homes the money's so big now you can
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 10: have homes. Wherever you want so if you don't want To,
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 10: live in utah you spend the season here and then
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 10: you bounce and you Live, in southern california.
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: Wherever you want it's, A Different.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: WORLD miss america i want to make sure we don't
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 2: upset any of. The, pageant crowd.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 10: Indeed we're big supporters of. THE pageant people i wouldn't.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: Go that. Far fair enough stay Tuned for The drive with.
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  Speaker 2: Spence check its We'll do The sean O'Connell show AGAIN
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow on espn seven hundred AND.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety two onefm