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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, September 16th. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host Tom Moore. The Kent State game in three days.
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- 0:18Speaker 1: reservation today. Just wrapped up the weekly Ryan Day press
- 0:22Speaker 1: conference and Marcus Hartman of Buckeye Insiders. You and I
- 0:26Speaker 1: have been to a bunch of those. This ranked, it
- 0:28Speaker 1: wasn't contentious. Contentious isn't the right word, but it was pointed,
- 0:35Speaker 1: I think, at times.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Yeah, reasonably so. I mean, I think that was, I
- 0:39Speaker 2: think everybody had the right tone for it. And obviously,
- 0:43Speaker 2: I mean, Day was willing to answer every question and
- 0:46Speaker 2: didn't even give too many trestle answers, you know, where
- 0:49Speaker 2: he said something but really didn't say anything. And for
- 0:52Speaker 2: the most part, there was some substance to all the
- 0:56Speaker 2: things that he said. He gave you some He gave
- 0:58Speaker 2: us some mindset of kind of what he was thinking,
- 1:01Speaker 2: and he pushed back against a couple, you know, against
- 1:03Speaker 2: maybe a narrative or two that was coming out of
- 1:05Speaker 2: a question. I thought reasonably so, but respectfully. So, yeah,
- 1:08Speaker 2: that was interesting from that standpoint. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah,
- 1:12Speaker 2: it was definitely not contentious. I think it was respectful.
- 1:16Speaker 2: But for the people that complain that he never gets
- 1:18Speaker 2: asked the tough questions and stuff like that, first of all,
- 1:20Speaker 2: I think he typically is asked pretty much all the
- 1:22Speaker 2: questions that he should be asked, except for ones that
- 1:25Speaker 2: maybe there's just absolutely no way he's going to answer. But,
- 1:28Speaker 2: you know, sometimes maybe you don't see the answer because
- 1:31Speaker 2: it wasn't interesting or it wouldn't have satisfied you anyway.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So I think all in all, that went fairly well
- 1:37Speaker 2: from our standpoint.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was monitoring our live chat on our
- 1:42Speaker 1: live stream of the press conference, and there was a
- 1:45Speaker 1: group of people that thought he was getting a bunch
- 1:47Speaker 1: of softballs, and there were a group of people who
- 1:49Speaker 1: thought the media was being.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Mean to him.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And so it was like, all right, so you have
- 1:53Speaker 1: probably sort of found that middle ground there. As soon
- 1:57Speaker 1: as it was done, you and Tony and I were
- 1:59Speaker 1: talking and you said there was one thing that was
- 2:01Speaker 1: like clearly the most interesting to you. And I wanted
- 2:04Speaker 1: to do this show on, you know, some of the
- 2:06Speaker 1: questions that people had been asking. And one of the
- 2:08Speaker 1: questions that people had been asking was, you know, why
- 2:10Speaker 1: aren't they playing the young guys more? And you got
- 2:13Speaker 1: to see Kari Wilder more. You got to see Legend
- 2:15Speaker 1: Bay more. You got to see Raleigh Pettyjohn more. and
- 2:18Speaker 1: one of the things that he talked about was one
- 2:20Speaker 1: of the things, you know, on that front was one
- 2:22Speaker 1: of the things that you thought was the most interesting.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Yeah, my interpretation was, and hopefully if I look back
- 2:26Speaker 2: at it and I don't think I misinterpreted it, was
- 2:28Speaker 2: that he pretty much said, well, we were looking at
- 2:30Speaker 2: it as we've got to figure out the guys we
- 2:32Speaker 2: can count on for this game, but they knew ahead
- 2:36Speaker 2: of time they would reevaluate the whole roster, basically, after
- 2:41Speaker 2: that game, and then they'd have some time to sort
- 2:44Speaker 2: of develop, you know, basically what the personnel is going
- 2:46Speaker 2: to be the rest of the way. And I think
- 2:48Speaker 2: that was very interesting. I mean, actually, it's almost interesting
- 2:52Speaker 2: that he said it, because I'm not surprised that they
- 2:54Speaker 2: would approach it that way. In fact, that's the way
- 2:56Speaker 2: I would expect them to approach it. Now, you could
- 2:58Speaker 2: probably make the case that you just need to go
- 3:00Speaker 2: in there all guns blazing. And maybe you could, but
- 3:04Speaker 2: that's not usually how coaches look at things either. So
- 3:07Speaker 2: that's what I thought was interesting. Again, sometimes it's interesting
- 3:09Speaker 2: if they just say a thing that you could sort
- 3:12Speaker 2: of guess. But, you know, we're allowed to speculate on
- 3:16Speaker 2: the message board, but it's nicer sometimes when they confirm it. Yeah.
- 3:20Speaker 1: And, you know, I think with the young guys, with
- 3:22Speaker 1: like Kari Wilder, with Legend Bay, it's kind of... They
- 3:27Speaker 1: know the talent's in there. It's just how much do
- 3:31Speaker 1: they trust them right now? Do they trust that the
- 3:33Speaker 1: talent is going to outweigh the risk of, hey, this
- 3:37Speaker 1: guy went the wrong way on a handoff. This guy,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you know, got out of his gap because he was
- 3:44Speaker 1: trying to do too much. It's stuff like that. And,
- 3:48Speaker 1: you know... I'm sure that everyone is watching Kari Wilder
- 3:51Speaker 1: get two pressures on five sacks and going, it doesn't
- 3:53Speaker 1: matter if he gets out of his gap, it's still
- 3:54Speaker 1: worth doing. And, you know, that's a your mileage may
- 3:56Speaker 1: vary situation. And I would probably agree with that broadly.
- 4:00Speaker 1: And I would probably agree with Legend Bay should have
- 4:02Speaker 1: had more than one snap on offense. But, you know,
- 4:05Speaker 1: that's sort of the calculation that goes into it from
- 4:08Speaker 1: the coach's perspective. One of the other things that I
- 4:10Speaker 1: was really interested about was the decision to not just
- 4:14Speaker 1: let Texas score at the end of the game. And
- 4:15Speaker 1: after the game, Day said, no, that was not, you know,
- 4:17Speaker 1: they felt they could stop them. You know, that's another
- 4:20Speaker 1: one that I looked at at the time and thought,
- 4:23Speaker 1: tired defense, three long drives, they've gone right down the
- 4:26Speaker 1: field on you. What are the odds you stop them
- 4:27Speaker 1: four times in a row from the one yard line?
- 4:30Speaker 1: And it got asked. And to me, that's a process question.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Ryan Day gave the results answer, which is, well, they scored. So,
- 4:39Speaker 1: you know, looking back, you wouldn't do it because you
- 4:41Speaker 1: know what the result is. To me, it's more of
- 4:43Speaker 1: a process question where if you had it to do
- 4:46Speaker 1: all over again, thinking through the decision without knowing the result,
- 4:51Speaker 1: I would have been more interested in that answer. And
- 4:54Speaker 1: I think to me, that's still sort of an open question.
- 4:56Speaker 1: If he had it to do all over again without
- 4:58Speaker 1: knowing the results, what would he do?
- 5:02Speaker 2: I would, I mean, I'm just guessing, but I said
- 5:05Speaker 2: if he had exactly the same situation, well, I think
- 5:08Speaker 2: he would let them score. If you have a similar situation,
- 5:12Speaker 2: I would imagine he probably would. And then if you
- 5:14Speaker 2: had a little bit more... Maybe if there was a
- 5:16Speaker 2: little more ambiguity. Because I do think one thing that was...
- 5:19Speaker 2: I am not inclined to let them score, personally. But
- 5:22Speaker 2: I do think something that was really working in the
- 5:24Speaker 2: favor of let them score was... It would have only
- 5:27Speaker 2: been a one-point game. And despite the fact that the
- 5:31Speaker 2: kicker had just missed a kick, I think he's probably
- 5:34Speaker 2: going to make most of them. That does change the math.
- 5:38Speaker 2: To me, if you only have to get to the
- 5:40Speaker 2: 30-yard line in a minute, then that does help with
- 5:45Speaker 2: the math of it. And I think you have to
- 5:47Speaker 2: assume that Texas was going to take the time down.
- 5:50Speaker 2: They weren't just going to come up there and snap
- 5:52Speaker 2: the ball as quickly as they could, as maybe some
- 5:55Speaker 2: older school coaches might. So I think you're right, but
- 5:59Speaker 2: I guess you're right that it was a process, that
- 6:01Speaker 2: was a results-based answer. And that's a little bit, like
- 6:06Speaker 2: you say, your mileage may vary on how you view
- 6:08Speaker 2: that kind of a thing. But I did kind of think,
- 6:11Speaker 2: maybe I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt,
- 6:12Speaker 2: that if he was not open to letting them score
- 6:15Speaker 2: in the first place, which they have done in the past.
- 6:18Speaker 2: They did it in the Michigan game in 21 because
- 6:20Speaker 2: they needed to get the ball back, even though that
- 6:21Speaker 2: put them down 14, but they were going to need
- 6:24Speaker 2: two possessions there. I feel like maybe there was one
- 6:26Speaker 2: other time they've done that, but it was a more
- 6:29Speaker 2: dire straight, certainly not when they were leading. And I
- 6:34Speaker 2: gave him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think
- 6:35Speaker 2: it was the worst decision in the world to try
- 6:37Speaker 2: to stop them, but I sort of took it as, well,
- 6:40Speaker 2: maybe he learned his lesson also when you're in that situation.
- 6:43Speaker 1: And then the last thing that I thought was interesting,
- 6:45Speaker 1: another decision that I thought during the game, I'll be
- 6:49Speaker 1: interested to see how this turns out and how this
- 6:51Speaker 1: is received, was punting from the plus 39 yard line
- 6:54Speaker 1: and and that was another one where that that is
- 6:57Speaker 1: a reasonable people may disagree and that's not that that
- 7:00Speaker 1: is a specific situation that has not necessarily worked out
- 7:03Speaker 1: for him in the past like I think of the
- 7:05Speaker 1: 2019 Fiesta Bowl or I mean not in that identical
- 7:07Speaker 1: situation by any means but you know you you in
- 7:10Speaker 1: this case gained 24 yards of field position and you
- 7:13Speaker 1: passed up an opportunity at a fourth and four or
- 7:16Speaker 1: whatever it was so I think there's been a lot
- 7:19Speaker 1: of criticism about them being too conservative in the second
- 7:24Speaker 1: half of that game. In terms of the offense, you
- 7:27Speaker 1: look at the run-pass balance, I think that's probably misstated.
- 7:31Speaker 1: That was the one situation that you thought, yeah, okay,
- 7:34Speaker 1: I could see where you might point to that thing
- 7:36Speaker 1: and say too conservative. What were his thoughts on that?
- 7:40Speaker 2: I don't even think that was a matter of being
- 7:43Speaker 2: conservative or game situation, honestly. I I think he just
- 7:47Speaker 2: felt like that was the time to punt it. I
- 7:50Speaker 2: think there were two of those, and I can't remember exactly.
- 7:53Speaker 2: But he said at least one time they did punt it,
- 7:55Speaker 2: and even though they didn't really get the punt they wanted,
- 7:57Speaker 2: they still stopped them and kicked a field goal. So
- 7:59Speaker 2: it wasn't the worst thing in the world. Then I
- 8:03Speaker 2: do think he sounded open-minded to maybe doing it differently
- 8:06Speaker 2: the next time. Maybe. But that was also partly because
- 8:09Speaker 2: of a process issue. in that results issue, and that
- 8:13Speaker 2: he admitted that they didn't execute the punt. To me,
- 8:16Speaker 2: this is, like I said, I'm inclined to not let
- 8:18Speaker 2: them score, even if maybe it's logical to let them score.
- 8:21Speaker 2: I am in that you probably should almost never punt
- 8:25Speaker 2: from the 39 unless you need 15 yards, or you
- 8:28Speaker 2: just literally, even if you only make 20 yards, that's
- 8:32Speaker 2: enough to maybe an extra 15 seconds or whatever it
- 8:35Speaker 2: might matter. I think if it's a makeable fourth down,
- 8:38Speaker 2: you should just about always go for it there. But
- 8:40Speaker 2: especially when your special teams is not reliable at all
- 8:43Speaker 2: from a punting standpoint. So, you know, like I said,
- 8:46Speaker 2: I think he was still a little bit like, well,
- 8:49Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think I made a mistake there. It
- 8:51Speaker 2: kind of worked out in the end. And that is
- 8:53Speaker 2: a little– like you say, I mean, that is a
- 8:55Speaker 2: little more– yes or no, you can kind of go
- 8:58Speaker 2: either way on that. But I also think the prevailing wisdom,
- 9:01Speaker 2: and I think there's probably numbers that back it up,
- 9:03Speaker 2: is that 39 and in, I mean, getting that 19
- 9:07Speaker 2: yards is really not that valuable. And that is a
- 9:11Speaker 2: place where if you've got some game control, you want
- 9:13Speaker 2: to maintain the game control. And again, even if you
- 9:16Speaker 2: give them that, okay, that extra first down or two
- 9:19Speaker 2: that they might need to get, even at that point
- 9:21Speaker 2: in the game, really doesn't matter. I think the risk-reward
- 9:24Speaker 2: is a lot higher in terms of being able to
- 9:27Speaker 2: maintain possession and run some more time off the clock
- 9:31Speaker 2: from that standpoint. Again, even if you save them a
- 9:33Speaker 2: minute from however many plays they're going to run, yeah,
- 9:36Speaker 2: but if you get the first down, you might run
- 9:38Speaker 2: two or three more minutes off the clock, let alone
- 9:40Speaker 2: still score.
- 9:42Speaker 1: And this is one of these situations where, like I said,
- 9:44Speaker 1: there is not a clear-cut yes or no answer on that.
- 9:47Speaker 1: This is a reasonable people can disagree sort of situation.
- 9:50Speaker 1: We've been having some very interesting conversations about this. And
- 9:54Speaker 1: people on our staff have sometimes been on different sides
- 9:56Speaker 1: of some of these issues because, again, it is a
- 9:58Speaker 1: reasonable people can disagree sort of situation. But if you
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