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Jim Florentine Says AI Comedy Is TERRIBLE — But This Is What He Uses It For! · Classic Metal Show

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, what's up?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Austin from Heavy Hitter, and you're watching CMS TV.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right on time.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this could not have timed out more perfectly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Joining us now...
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  SPEAKER_01: Dare I say, the guy with the number one comedy album in America.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's the great Jim Florentine.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jim, how are you, buddy?
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  SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, is it really impressive that I'm a couple years away
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  SPEAKER_00: from collecting Social Security,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm still making prank calls, and it's the number one album?
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's not like a comedy masterpiece, like a stand-up, you know, my...
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, George Carlin, you were all diseased or something like that.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: But it's prank calls.
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  SPEAKER_01: I put it right next to Eddie Murphy Raw.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the thing is you get like I've been doing it for what my first one came out of 2000.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: So we're talking 26 years now.
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  SPEAKER_00: You really and it's still this one could be the most immature one yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you really can't evolve as a human being.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because you can't go into a prank call going, all right, listen, man, I can't do this anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm too old for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have responsibilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you go in, that call is never going to be good.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The prank calls are always just childish.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you have to have that childish mentality.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I still have it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, it's a great look.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can downplay it all you want because I know you.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're never going to brag on yourself.
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  SPEAKER_01: Fucking A, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's still 50 other comics out there that have records that are not
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  SPEAKER_01: the number one thing in the country.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should take that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Believe me, all the hard work pays off when it finally comes out and it does well.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's getting well received.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a band putting an album out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let me ask you one question.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to only talk comedy or the comedy record, but I got to ask you.
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  SPEAKER_01: My favorite clip on the telemarketers thing is Is when you do the, the,
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  SPEAKER_01: the thing with the,
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  SPEAKER_01: the bill collector about offering them a blow job for,
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  SPEAKER_01: to take a thousand dollars off your bill.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: How did you not fucking laugh?
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  SPEAKER_01: How did you keep a straight straight without,
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  SPEAKER_01: I would have been laughing my ass off long before he went and got the supervisor.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just have a uncanny ability to just not break character.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's on the phone,
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  SPEAKER_00: like when it's face-to-face,
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  SPEAKER_00: because me and Don used to pull these hidden camera pranks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's tough, you know, when you're face-to-face.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you're on the phone, it's a lot easier.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was the only call off the new album that came off my cell phone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, you get the telemarketing, and I always record every one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that was the wrong number.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, American Express, $3,000.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just answer, yeah, this is him.
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  SPEAKER_00: I answer anything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's Bill or it's Jerry or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I didn't know I owned this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even have an American Express card, but thanks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Jim, when you and Don do the one together,
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  SPEAKER_03: obviously it's like,
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  SPEAKER_03: is it like a skit kind of thing you already have planned going into this?
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  SPEAKER_03: How does it kind of the process of doing these work?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is it just on point, like just sporadic?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, talk about how you do them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we have an idea and then other times we just pick up the phone and wing it
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  SPEAKER_00: and then we'll hear something.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, we'll go in this direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was a call where,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know when they always say this is going to be recorded for quality purposes?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They always give it a warning.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we had a good idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, as soon as they say that, Don's going to go, oh, man, is this the Amazon people?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because Amazon sent me a pair of sneakers and actually sent two when I never sent it back.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope I'm not going to get in trouble.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go, now you just admitted a crime on a recorded live.
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  SPEAKER_00: So now, like, Miss, is there any way we can get that tape?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I don't want them to get in trouble.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a whole thing, like there's a tape.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's like, well, no, it's just, I go, we have to find that tape.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are you in Jersey?
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll come get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please, could you beat that out?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is there anything?
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  SPEAKER_00: We'll just fuck it over.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that one, we just came off the top after that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then at the end, we were on the phone for 50 minutes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're like, all right, where do we go with this?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I go, all right, I'm going to pretend I'm the Amazon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amazon driver knocks on the door.
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  SPEAKER_00: You play a character.
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  SPEAKER_00: And arrest me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, okay, we just ad-libbed that at the end.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're whispering.
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  SPEAKER_00: We cut that out, but you can hear us whispering as the woman's babbling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he knocks.
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  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, I'm in my basement.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's my basement door.
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  SPEAKER_00: I knock it like the Amazon driver would come to pick up the sneakers and he's going
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  SPEAKER_00: to arrest us.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I had a gunshot sound on my phone and I just wound up hitting it
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  SPEAKER_00: because I knew we were going to lose her.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's how it ends the call that I shoot the Amazon driver.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm not going to jail over a pair of sneakers.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's too funny, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the record's great, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and I'm not just kissing your ass.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's really...
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm old school, you know, like I'm sure you are as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I couldn't wait to get Jerky Boys and, you know, all the various...
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  SPEAKER_01: Even in the old,
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  SPEAKER_01: old days,
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  SPEAKER_01: remember when people used to just have them on tapes and you didn't even know
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  SPEAKER_01: who made them.
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  SPEAKER_01: They just floated around on cassettes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I used to listen to them all.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love phony phone calls.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the fact that you're still doing them...
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  SPEAKER_01: How do you get away with it, though?
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  SPEAKER_01: I thought it was illegal unless you told them.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's different if it's outgoing calls.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can get charged with harassment now.
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  SPEAKER_00: But these are all incoming.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're calling my house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So technically, as long as you beep out the name and company, you're safe, even if you don't.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're calling me, so they can't charge me for anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when I call out, we did with Crank Anchors, they always had to get a release.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: And people would get mad, too.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the advantage I have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone hates telemarketers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So no one feels bad for the telemarketer, no matter what me or Don do to them.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nobody's ever going to sue you for being mean to a telemarketer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
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  SPEAKER_00: He went over the line on that one.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because I do it just,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: not recording or maybe I should set myself up to start recording them
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  SPEAKER_01: because I don't know what it is that they constantly call.
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  SPEAKER_01: Apparently there's some girl named Alexandria that must use my phone number for shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she'll call or somebody will call and be like, yeah, we're calling for Alexandria.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, well, this is Alex.
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you need?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just go whatever they're going with.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll just wing it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I owe how much money?
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should start recording them, Chris, because you can record them on your cell phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It warns them, though, which sucks.
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  SPEAKER_00: They go, this call is being recorded.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of telemarketers will hang up when they hear it from my cell phone.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a landline and I have a recorder hooked right up.
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  SPEAKER_00: So as soon as I pick up, it starts recording.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cell phone, you know, the quality isn't as good.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think they sell these numbers, these telemarketers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like if you pick up the phone once, then they just sell it to all these other companies.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's why you get bombarded.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get mad when a friend calls.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go, I thought you were a telemarketer.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm waiting.
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  SPEAKER_00: I got to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I should start.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, because I have my whole Mac and whatever set up.
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  SPEAKER_01: It'll ring right here.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I could just screen capture everything right here.
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  SPEAKER_01: I might miss the hello.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, Mahib from wherever, but whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll give you,
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  SPEAKER_01: feel free to steal this one if you want,
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  SPEAKER_01: because this drives them fucking crazy and they will not hang up.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: I do this one a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll go in and they'll say, well, this is so-and-so from whatever, mortgage company or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'll just pretend like I'm some old man and I just am not hearing them,
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  SPEAKER_01: like I have dementia or And I'll be like, Bill?
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  SPEAKER_01: Bill Watson?
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: And they'll be like, no, no, this is Frank from ABC Credit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bill, how have you been?
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  SPEAKER_01: I haven't talked to you since you moved to Florida.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I will just keep trucking through them until they hang up.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they get crazy because they think they've got the guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they won't hang up.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're trying to do the...
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's make a settlement plan or whatever it is that they do.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: How many people hang up on them, say, don't ever call again, lose this number, do not call us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just that they have somebody like,
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: holy shit, this is weird, but I might be able to get a sale here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you always have that advantage.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Matt.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I mean,
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_03: I actually wanted to ask you something that's a little off this,
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  SPEAKER_03: Jim, in terms of AI and comedy now.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_03: You know, obviously that's a big deal.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the one thing I think that AI probably could not do good at all.
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  SPEAKER_03: Have you ever just,
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: for shits and giggles,
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_03: like Curiosity fucked around with it and,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know, tested it just to see what would come up?
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  SPEAKER_00: I did, and it's terrible.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: I figured that.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: I said, let me just try this.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: I came up with a scenario, my kid's going to start driving soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give me some jokes as a parent.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: And they were like the worst jokes.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: I go, okay, can you make them edgier?
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, you want them edgier?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: No problem.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: They were rated G still.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, the darkest possible jokes ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like the darkest one they come up with,
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was in a car, my son,
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: he was driving for the first time,
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  SPEAKER_00: I told him, pull over, and I puked or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's completely lame, because I think they just, AI gets it from like memes on the internet.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's where they get the idea.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: As far as writing stand-up comedy,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's terrible,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I use it in other things and it's great to make up like tour posters
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: and shit like that.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: For sure, yeah.
• 10:12
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• 10:20
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• 10:22
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• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, look, I've always been behind on everything.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think I was the last guy in the world to have a BlackBerry.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't get an iPhone.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I've always been stubborn about all the shit.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: I go, let me embrace this shit.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I got ChatGPT.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: I got to fucking pay $24.95 a month.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: My kids, it helps them with his homework.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I do a bunch of shit on there, so I love it.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: Do you get because I get just murdered for using it?
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: We were talking about that earlier.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I proudly say, yep, I use it because I'm not an artist.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: I can't do art.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like my shit to look like it's clip art.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: And in today's world, that's what it would look like if I don't.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: If I don't use it,
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  SPEAKER_01: you're going to have my clip art shit up against everything else that's being done
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: with AI on YouTube.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: And guess who's not going to get anybody to listen?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: I had a guy doing my tour post.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: He charged me like 20 bucks.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And here's some dates updated.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be like, I think the first date would pass before he'd get back to me with the tour post.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, my car broke down.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: I got this.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I go, I don't want to fucking deal with it.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Within three minutes, I have a poster done.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know,
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: I want to
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: be my own boss in most of the shit because I get,
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's frustrating dealing with other people that don't give a shit, which I get.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: He's making 20 bucks.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: He don't give a fuck.
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  SPEAKER_00: But so I like it.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: I embrace it.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm the same way.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I would never use it for, like,
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: I know I watch the Who Are These Podcast guys a lot,
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: and they feature that guy,
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: what's the guy's name, something, Banfield, Jim Banfield, or Jerry Banfield.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he literally preps his show with ChatGPT.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's like, okay, I'm going to do an episode.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: I want to talk about crypto.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Give me some points.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: And then he comes on and just reads his point.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, I would never do that.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: I would never do the
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: creative stuff.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: But as far as the poster, like you have right here, it's great.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, what are you going to do?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're going to send it to an artist every week?
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, can you get it done when it's going to cost?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: That would probably cost $100 or something like that.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck that.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Instead, it cost me 30 seconds.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, you've been out at a lot, a lot of shows over the past year.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I made a list.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: I made a list of every concert I went to.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I'll read off all the bands I saw.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: You guys can ask me questions.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: All right, go ahead.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm prepared.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't put in a chat GPT either.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: All right, these are the ones I saw since May.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Foo Fighters,
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Kid Rock,
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Sammy Hagar,
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: God Smackin' Stone Temple Pilots together,
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Lynyrd Skynyrd Foreigner together,
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Five Finger Death Punch,
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Guns N' Roses,
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson together, Twisted Sister, Iron Maiden, Ted Nugent.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, since we were talking right before you came on about Sebastian,
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: and I don't know if you even heard what we were talking about or whatever,
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: but we, again, it was AI.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: Sebastian,
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: we kind of ripped it,
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: and we'll get to how the show was in a minute, but we ripped it pretty good.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: the whole Sebastian and Twisted Sister thing that it just doesn't feel right to me,
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: but whatever.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, he had to jump in.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: And make some shit comment about our AI being bad and not looking like him.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Sebastian did?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: He went on our...
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: The fans aren't going to see it because I don't have a share for you.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: I see the picture.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I see it.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Here's his comment right here at the top.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: It says, what the hell is going on with your bullshit AI picture that looks nothing like me?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Your site is a complete joke.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for the update from your mom's basement.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: To which I responded, hey Baz, our AI is no worse than your man-made album cover.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thank God this basement has plenty of room and is comfortable.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Now go back to begging your wife for forgiveness or singing someone else's songs
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: or begging to win the Skid Row singer search.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, just so you can see, here's my AI and there's his album cover.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_01: Which one looks more like Sebastian Bach?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: Which album is that?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's the newest one, Child, Within the Man.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, right, yeah, yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, look, I mean,
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't totally look like Sebastian, but it's not bad, I know.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: Believe me, when I put it sometime in ChatGPT, you're like, that's not me.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: You
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: know what I mean?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I get it's a little off, but what are you going to do?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean...
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Of these two that you're looking at right now,
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: if you just saw him blind, which one would you think is Sebastian Bach?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: But, look, I don't know.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_00: I have a special place in my heart for Sebastian.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love his music.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's still amazing on stage.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: I never heard him hit a bad note ever before.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: We like our guys a little out there causing problems.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: I love that about him.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: I get along with him really well.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I was at that Twisted Sister show, the first one they did in Jersey.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: Tell us, good, bad, what?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: You have to realize, I was seeing Twisted Sister when I was 15 years old.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was sneaking in clubs.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so I saw them before they even had their first album out.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: They would do 3,000 people on a Monday night.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was insane.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so I went with them, you know, they're huge on the East Coast.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: And when they got back together,
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: okay, you know, it sucks that Mark the Animal Mendoza's not back in the band.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happened there.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then when Dee backed out, you know, they had a whole tour of Europe booked for the summer.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: They were gonna do a headline, these smaller like metal festivals and shit like that.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: They were over there for like three months.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then when Dee had to back out,
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: They had like eight other dates booked in the fall, like the dates to do.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: And now they go, all right, let's just do them.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because they canceled the summer tour, you know, the festivals and stuff.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: They go, let's just do it.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: We want a singer.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Sebastian's been a fan.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: He was around on the East Coast when they were big and shit like that.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And he's not doing a whole tour.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're not doing an album.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: They're not going to go overseas next summer and do these festivals.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you say that now, but JJ's already saying, well, we might do music.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: JJ said that.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Unless he's mad at D, I don't think that's happening.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: He could be very mad at D,
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: the fact that he's playing clubs instead of big shows because D doesn't want
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: to come out or
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, Twisted Sister was never an arena band.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: They were bigger overseas than they were in the States.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: England took a liking them.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: You can't stop rock and roll.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: They had to get over to England.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Under the Blade, the first record, that was over in England.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: They had to get a record deal there.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: But look, being at that show...
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Listen to those songs and,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: you know, since I was 15 years old, I thought he did a great job with it.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, when you see the stuff online,
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: you know, when you're in that venue at that moment, it sounds way better.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: It just does.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: The energy of the crowd and everything,
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: everybody knew the songs and he did them justice, you know.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's not the same band as a bunch of guys.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: JJ and Eddie O'Hate are the only two originals.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: But like I said,
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: they're doing like seven or eight shows,
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: doing a couple of fairs and some casinos and stuff like that.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: And that's supposedly going to be it.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: So Sebastian's solo career has taken off because Skid Row hasn't done anything in five years.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: So people want to hear those songs and he's the guy singing on them.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: So he doesn't necessarily need Twisted Sister at this point.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's just a big fan of the band.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think from hearing it that it sounded like Twisted Sister
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: or did it sound like Sebastian Bach doing Twisted Sister?
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because that was kind of my read from it.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't think it was horrible.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't think it was, I don't know.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: Modern day Dokken or whatever.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I thought it was okay, but I thought it sounded like Sebastian doing covers.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't sound like twist.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: There's some about Dee's energy that is definitely missing from this.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're right.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: But it also is three other original band members are missing too.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: So it could be the other music, the bass, the drums and all that other stuff.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't exactly, but do you want it exactly?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: It sounded good, and people got mad that they're doing the Skid Row songs.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why not at the end of the show?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm going to push back on that then, too.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm okay with them doing one.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: One.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Twisted Sister had exactly one ballad in their catalog.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: They don't do ballads.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: So why is they up there doing I Remember You and having,
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: what, J.J. or Eddie's daughter or something singing with it?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know,
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think maybe because it was an East Coast show and Sebastian used to live here
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: in Jersey and his daughter came up and sang with them and
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: then Eddie's daughter sang another one.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if they're doing the two songs.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they're only doing the one on the other dates that they did.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: But you got Sebastian up there.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: At the end, you throw him in.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's not that big.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like you're missing.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, for me, I love all the deep cuts.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: But most of the Twisted Sister fans are not like,
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: oh, my God, they didn't play this song because they played the Skid Row song.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So nobody was complaining about that.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: Jim, are you of the mindset that if people are just willing to buy,
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: you know, to go and pay and see this stuff, that it's fine?
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Is there like a musical integrity thing you think there has to be where there's like
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_03: a line to draw?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: With the whole band versus brand thing, what's your kind of take on?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you're talking to a guy that saw Lynyrd Skynyrd and Farner over the summer.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was going to say that exactly.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: All right, there's your answer.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, it is a little weird with the foreign thing, at least with Skinner, you know.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Got a Van Zandt there.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: We got a Van Zandt.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then I guess – He's been there 35 or 40 years, too.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Ricky Medlock, I guess, was originally in Skinner.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: He was on no albums, but he
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_03: was the original lineup, I think.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, I don't know.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: For me, there's like a couple of bands I'd like to see every summer.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know every song.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: You just, you know, it's outdoor amphitheater.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're drinking beers.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're tailgating.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: You go see them.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a fun show.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, but yeah, it is a little weird when you got no original members.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: And most of the crowd doesn't even know, which is crazy.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: They don't know and they don't care.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Did you buy those tickets or did you make a call?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: No, I bought them.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: I always buy tickets and then I say, hey, I'm here.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And then maybe they'll get me backstage or whatever, but I always buy.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: But then you're the perfect one to ask about this.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: I agree with you.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, for me, I don't give a shit who's on the stage.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: I really don't.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I want a good show.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care if they use tracks.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care if there's no original members.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: If it sounds good, I'll go see Molly Hatchett 15 times.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: I know there's nobody left, but it sounds good.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm fine with that until it comes to the price.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then, I mean, what was Foreigner and Skinner?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: It had to be $100 and a half.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, probably like $120, $130.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: come on.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's for no original.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's for two tribute bands.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: That do it well, but it's two tribute bands.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're right.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, but people pay it and they get away with it.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: People pay $75 to park where they don't want to walk like, you know, another 500 yards.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's how spoiled people are.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I'm a fat guy.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: I do a bit of my new comedy stuff.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: I have a handicapped parking pass.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I park right in the front of this venue near the PNC Art Center near my house.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I park in the front row every time.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the only time I use it is when I go there.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm not parking a mile away on the grass and walking and shit like that.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because what happened was my grandmother passed away like eight years ago.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And there's seven of us in the family and people,
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: there was almost fist bites in our family fighting over her stuff.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: Antique tables from the 50s, a fork from fucking, I think that Ty Cobb ate off of.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I just saw the handicapped Parker Pass and go, this is the only thing I want.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I walked away with it.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's the fucking greatest thing ever.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: It never even expires.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's amazing, yeah.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: Did you say you attended the Maiden show at all, Jim?
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Talk to us about how that was.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Best I've ever seen Maiden since,
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: you know, I saw Maiden with Diano as a kid in 1981, open for Priest.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember that being amazing, but I was a little kid then.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: But this is the best I've seen him since then.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Mostly because of the set list too.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Was just amazing.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you open with four songs from Killer.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Are you fucking Killers?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Are you kidding me?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: And if you go in the Phantom or the Opera, fuck out of here.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what do you think about this new discussion that's out there about
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: when they record whatever becomes the next thing about having Nico back in,
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: yes or no?
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, what, playing the album?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, he wants to, right?
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: He wants to.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's, do they,
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: you know, this is where it becomes Band of Brothers versus this is the guy we hired.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: That would be pretty insulting to the guy that they brought into the band
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: if they say, okay, well, you go take a break.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to bring in the other guy to play.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's the same thing with the Sabbath 13 record.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: And look at how it was received.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Tommy didn't play on it, but he did the tour.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's a tough one.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I get it.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Nico's being what a 45-year musician is.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's got the itch again.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: He may not be able to do it anymore, but he's got the itch.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a little tribute band down in Florida.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's playing, doing main stuff.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: They should let him play on the record because you could do 50 takes if he messes up.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let him play on the record and he can't be the touring drummer.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think they'll let him play if they're going to do another record.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: I think what they should,
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: and again,
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: this is just me,
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: some dummy with a microphone,
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: so I have no knowledge or anything, but it would make sense to let him do a song.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: It would actually be better,
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think,
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: instead of having to do it 43 different takes to get one good,
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: especially with that Maiden music, which is so, you know, technical.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: Would he be willing to do just one?
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's the key.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Probably not because of the ego.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: But if he's doing a maiden tribute thing in Florida,
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: the bars, if it's that awful, he just wouldn't do it, I'm sure.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: I saw him on the last tour.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: I saw him in October of last year.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: They played Brooklyn on that Somewhere in Time tour.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: They were doing most of that album.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: He was playing drums.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't see a big difference in it, but they said he couldn't keep the beat up.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they got rid of him.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was only a year ago that they got rid of him
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: that he was still doing two-hour shows with them.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, at this point, I love Maiden, but we don't need another Iron Maiden record.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I agree with that, too.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we don't need another one,
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: because the next time they tour,
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: it'll do six songs off of it that are 17 minutes long.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: I can take an hour break at the concert.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I wouldn't be opposed to Bruce Dickinson laying off the solo records as well.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that last record did nothing for me.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: I know a lot of people liked it.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: I did not like it at all.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're getting part two of that?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Those singers always want to go do something on their own.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: They think they're bigger than the band.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: Let them do their little side project, get it out of the way so they come back to the real band.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way I look at it.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: The only problem with Dickinson,
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: though, he really believes that everything that he touches is gold.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: And he's been right on that a lot.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Accident of Birth and Chemical Wedding, those are some really fucking good records.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: And they're good enough that everybody kind of forgets
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: that there was also Skunk Works and there was also whatever that last one was,
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: the Mandalorian Project.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Mandrake.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the Mandrake Effect or whatever.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: And that was just boring.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I don't know.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm with you, though.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, just play your songs.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think at their age, it's tough.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: You run out of riffs and you run out of ideas in a band and stuff like that.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: You wrote your great stuff years ago.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's really tough to pull that off 40 years later to put an amazing record.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not too many bands could do it.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: This one comes from the chat room.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Brian in the chat wants to know if you are going to go see Metallica at The Sphere.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I probably will, but not right away.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen Metallica like 20, 25 times.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen the stadium tour that they've been doing the two different nights.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of the stadium shows, even though I'm going to see ACDC next week at a stadium.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I probably will go see them at the sphere.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: They just announced Cleveland here.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: I did go see the first...
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to believe the fucking 72 Seasons Tours five years on.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, all right, already, enough.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: But they just announced here, it's what, Them, Limp Bizkit, and Avatar, I think.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I can't even fathom what those tickets are going to cost for any kind of a decent seat.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: But I did see it.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: I might come to Cleveland maybe next summer for that.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: That'd be cool.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's a great stadium and stuff, too.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you, man,
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: I got to be honest,
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: 72 Seasons was the only Metallica record I couldn't get into and I still can't get
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: into.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: Besides the first song, Lexi Curna, whatever the fuck it was, that was a great one.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was old school.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Other than that, I can't.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: I try.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: You don't like Shadows Fade?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's just, I don't know, man.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: The songs, even though, look, I like St. Anger way better than 72 Seasons.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think you just lost their will to make great music?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I guess I get it.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: They're at that age.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: They've done everything that a band could do.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think it's just that they're at the point where it's just like,
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, like I said, there's 72 seasons.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they've got a couple of good songs.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: I agree with you.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not a huge fan of it.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: But I just think kind of musically,
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, do we need, you said, do we need another Iron Maiden record?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: Do we need another Metallica record?
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'll tell you, Hardwired was good.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Out of the nine songs on there was five really good songs.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: There was like four clunkers on there.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: But Death Magnetic, the album before that, I loved that record.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: That was a good record.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that was a great record.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, Mars even said, like, this was our pandemic record.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So they wrote it during a pandemic.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: They were on laptops.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: They probably weren't in the same room to deal with all that shit.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: That video for If Darkness Comes or whatever that was.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, they all shot it in their living rooms, like walking around.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like Robert Trujillo's walking through his living room playing bass in the video.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, I noticed something,
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: during the pandemic,
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: like for like the first five months, I didn't get on stage probably like month four.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't come up with any material.
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• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I thought I'd have all this free time.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'll write a bunch of stuff.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be ready when everything opens up back up.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then my friend's like, yeah, well, you're not living life.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: So there's nothing.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: What are you going to write about?
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: You're not doing anything.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's what the band studio just stuck in a fucking room.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: We got to create.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: We got to do something.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why it wasn't that good.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think James Hetfield needs to start drinking again.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's that simple.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care what anybody says.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: It changed the minute he put the booze down.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: It did.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I hate these shows.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, hate them.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_01: And Metallica is my second favorite band of all time.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Who's your favorite band?
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: Pantera.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: I loved Pantera, but I've seen Metallica 40 some odd times.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: When I lived in California,
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: this is a true story,
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: I sent my wife and kid back here to Ohio two weeks before I went because I had
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: to go see Metallica in San Francisco, Sacramento, and Reno.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I stayed two extra weeks just to see them.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: No wonder you're divorced.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no kidding.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: That is the truth.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Believe me, believe me, if that was the only reason that I might be fighting her.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: But no, I mean, dude, they went and you've seen you saw him back in the day, obviously.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: They went from if James saw one guy in Section 550 that was sitting down,
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: he would motherfucker that guy to death.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: He'd be like, hey, you fucking pussy, get up.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he would he would.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: They would be pissed.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like they were angry.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: And now when you go and see those shows,
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: and I've seen them on every tour so far, including 72 seasons.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: Now this bullshit of, hey friends, the Metallica family's here, friends.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for supporting the family.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, ugh.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: This is not Bible study.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm singing Die by My Hands,
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: and you're singing, hey, friends, here's a nine-year-old that's at his first show.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: How wonderful.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like I was saying earlier when I first came on, he's evolved as a human.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: If that was me and I was James, like, get the fuck up.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Who's that motherfucker back there?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_00: You bought a $12 ticket and you got to sit down?
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: So he's evolved as a human, and that's why he's like that.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: He should be saying, take your fucking nine-year-old and hit it.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Get out of the way.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: Too funny, man.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: But let me tell you, the best band out of the whole summer.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: I saw Foo Fighters in a little club,
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_00: the Starland Ballroom, the same place where Tristan Sister played.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why were they in a small club?
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_00: They did two club shows right when the album came out.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_00: I did the Urban Plaza in New York and I went up getting tickets and I took my son there.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was fucking awesome to see him at a club.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't need to see him in a stadium.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: I just saw him in a fucking rock club, which is great.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: So it saved me.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: But at all the shows I saw the summer, best band, Marilyn Manson.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's sober now, right?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sober, phenomenal.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: I saw him back in the day when he was cutting himself on stage.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: He was great.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then the last like eight years,
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Before he got Me Too'd,
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: he was terrible because he was drinking, he was out of shape, he didn't give a fuck.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: And he's been sober, I guess, for like five, six years now.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: Unbelievable.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_00: Blew Rob Zombie off the stage.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's not hard.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, but he's hoping for Zombie a bunch of times.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: And Rob's always, you know, it's not even close because Marilyn was always in a bad spot.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: He just wasn't, the show was like, ah, it's okay.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but once he got sober, my son's been in like 20, no, 43 shows now.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: And he's seen like these big country guys like Morgan Wallen and all those guys.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because I never heard a bigger response than when Marilyn Manson walked on
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: that stage opening for Rob Zombie at like eight o'clock.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: The crowd was going crazy and he just fucking killed it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was great.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: He's great live, man.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: Great.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: I enjoyed him in the drunk years.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'll tell you this is a fun story.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: There used to be,
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: for like 10 seconds,
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: there was a TV thing that was trying to start up called Yebo TV.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you even heard of it or remember it.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: It was kind of like a...
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Remember when Fuse was out there being like the alternative to MTV before MTV quit?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, well...
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: And Yebo was another one,
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: and it was based in Ohio,
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: but they were in like four or five states,
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: and they were just trying to get their feet in the water, so to speak.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: And they hired me to interview Manson and Slayer.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Remember when they were touring together?
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: Was that the late 90s or whatever?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I ain't gonna lie, I was nervous as hell to interview Manson.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought...
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: This guy's such a fucking weirdo.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: If I ask him a question that he thinks is dumb,
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: he's just going to get up and walk on me, or he might punch me in the mouth.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Could not have been a cooler guy.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: He was just in the chair, very chill, very, oh, what do you think about this?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: He was pretty cool to talk to.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: Really, the only one in that whole thing that was a dick out of all of them was Kerry King.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: He just was like,
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: he didn't want to be there,
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: and he didn't want to do this dumb interview,
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: and he was like, All right, fatso, what do you fucking want?
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: He comes off very standoffish.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: He definitely does.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I toured with Slayer, Megadeth, and Anthrax for like, I did like 30 shows with them.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: And like the first two weeks, I'm like, I would see Carrie like in catering, just hanging out.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, he's going to be mad.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, once you start talking, he's the sweetest guy in the world.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: But he goes, yeah, I have to because these fucking bands are crazy.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I just play like, don't fuck with me.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, he does that well.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he definitely does.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: Speaking of you opening for a lot of those bands,
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: what's been like the worst reception you ever got when you were doing those?
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was just talking to Jason McMaster last night.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: He does a podcast and I was on it.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: He was at the show,
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: the first show of the Slayer Megadeth Anthrax tour that I opened in 2010
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: in San Antonio, Texas.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I was doing five minute sets in between each band,
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: like five minutes before Anthrax, five before Megadeth, five before Slayer.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, most of the crowd knew me from that metal show was on at that point.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I had an advantage for like the first couple of minutes that they give me
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: a You know, a break.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: And when Anthrax went on, the venue was like a third full.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: And they were great.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Megadeth was okay.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: By the time Slayer came on, like, they didn't want nothing to do with me.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, enough, dude.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: We know you tell jokes.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Get the fuck off the stage.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the same drunk guy in the audience when the local DJ comes up
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: that never played any Iron Maiden songs from K-Rock.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, we're K-Rock.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: We're here.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, fuck you.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: You never play.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, get off the stage.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Iron Man can play one more song because you're up there babbling.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, that's not the case.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: They all have set times and stuff.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: But that San Antonio show.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: So the third set I had to do before Slayer, they had this big stage show.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: So they had the whole stage covered.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: So the curtain came all out to the end.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to do my third set at the soundboard in the middle of the arena.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: So all of a sudden, right,
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: 10 minutes before Slayer's going on,
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing five minutes,
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: the spotlight comes on me,
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: the lights go out, the spotlight comes on me at the soundboard.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone has to turn around thinking Slayer's coming on.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, how you guys doing?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm back for a third time.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was fucking nuts.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Missiles coming out of you, beers, full beers, water.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: I was like Dane Cook fucking moving around on stage.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't move at all.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm fucking dodging.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: I see the shit coming at me.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to tell jokes.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's splashing on top of the soundboard.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's the fucking main sound.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: They're freaking out.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Afterwards, like they could have shorted out the board.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what am I going to tell you?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: The next night,
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: because I always had to do it with the soundboard,
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: they had a tarp over the fucking soundboard before I went on.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Cover everything like a fucking hurricane's coming.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I don't know how you do those things.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: The biggest, I've never done that, obviously, but I've done stage intros.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: I've introduced Down and I've introduced Megadeth and I've introduced,
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: the biggest one I ever did was Pantera.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: I did a,
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Intro for Pantera on Great Southern Tranquil at Blossom Music Center,
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: which is 18,000 people, and it was packed.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm telling you, the people wanted nothing to do with Chris from WMMS.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, hey, it's Chris Akin from The Metal Show on WMMS.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck you, you fucking piece of shit.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, holy shit.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then when I started talking,
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: because of course,
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: what people don't know,
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: and you probably had the same thing too, you do have to do some business.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: You have to do, hey,
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_01: just want to remind you guys that t-shirts are going to be at the booth or beers are
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: over here for $10 or whatever it is you have to do.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's why they hire you.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm up there trying to do some horse shit about t-shirts or something.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: I start getting hit with ice and batteries.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I was just like, fuck it, man.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: Here's Pantera.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Crowd goes crazy.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: I go walking off to the side and fucking Dimebag just looks at me and goes,
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: that's the way you fucking do it, brother.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's the way you do it.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, all right, good.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, I got a fucking cut over my head where I got hit in the head with a battery.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, believe it.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: Those crowds are tough.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you figure, I figure it out, like, by the third day.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I would come out, go, you know, before Slayer, give it up for Megadeth.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, everybody.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: How great were they?
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: What about Anthrax?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: So they're cheering.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then, hey, I'm working for Jägermeister.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: We got Jägermeister shots up there.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: Go get your, you know, throw that in real.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's got to be super quick.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Who's drinking?
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's it?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking quick shit like that.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_00: You can't waste any time in front of those angry crowds.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I'll tell you another quick one.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: So we did a Pantera meet and greet one time at a record store.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_01: And again, this was on the live tour, whatever the 101 Proof album.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: And they were touring on that.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, the band was four hours fucking late.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_01: Four hours late to this meet and greet.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: And they had me and my partner, the Warlock from WMMS.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: We were like DJing this thing.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we're playing music and stuff.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: And we're set up outside of the record store.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: And the only rule we really had was we were not allowed to play any Pantera music.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: Until Pantera showed up.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: That was kind of the only rule.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: So this thing, we expected 200 or 300 people.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: We had two cops at this thing.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: The entire parking lot fills up.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was like 3,000 people.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: They stretched out to the next door.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: There was a bank and they surrounded the bank to where they closed the bank
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: because people couldn't get in and out of the bank.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: It was fucking nutty.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: And people were over.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: There was a bike rack in this little strip mall and somehow they yanked it out of
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_01: the cement and were trying to bring it in to get it signed.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was fucking stupid, right?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, needless to say, we start, you know...
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_01: People are drinking and stuff in the line and I'm encouraging it.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm, you know,
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the main shit starter and I'm like,
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: yeah, put another one down for pan fucking Tara.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: Woo.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and people are doing shots or whatever.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, about two and a half hours in, we ain't got a band.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody's answering phones, you know, and we're like, holy fuck.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: And, and now the people that we're happy, Are now not happy.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Now they're getting pissed and they're drunk.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're all getting drunk.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then at some point they start banging on the windows of the record store chanting riot.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I am going to fucking run.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: We're in the store.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm running out the back door and I'm just leaving.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Fuck you guys.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gone.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden the guy that owns record store comes to me and he goes,
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: okay, go out there and calm these people down.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, how am I going to fucking calm these people down?
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so I go out and I'm doing my shtick.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, you guys are fucking quiet.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: You guys must want poison, not Pantera, you faggots.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just doing my shtick and getting them all even more crazy.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, everybody, Pantera's fucking here.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we had no clue where they were.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you said that?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I said it.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, man.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: I was like...
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, they were going to come through the windows if I didn't say that Pantera was there.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I just said they were there.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: I started playing Pantera music.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: People start moshing in the fucking parking lot.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: It got fucking so dumb.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: And by the grace of God, they showed up.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: They showed up and their bus came in and And they pulled around the back and
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: then they came in and did the meet and greet.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: And to their credit, they stayed.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was like an off day for them.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: And they stayed until it had to be 10,
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_01: 11 o'clock at night signing every single person's autographs and shit.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: But man, I've never been truly scared like I was truly scared of that.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I've been in fucking battle in a war.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I was more scared at this fucking Pantera thing because they made me the ringleader of it.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right, go calm them down.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go calm them down.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want me to do?
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: How do you calm down 3,000 drunks?
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_00: I was opening, Megadeth would do those, what, Gigantors?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I opened on, I did comedy on two of them I was opening.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: And we were in like Oklahoma City and all the bands went up except for Megadeth.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden the lightning storm came out and the power went out.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: So everyone's just waiting and waiting.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's raining and no one's leaving.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: And after a half hour, they go, hey, the show's canceled.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: Megadeth's on the bus right now to leave in, so there's no riot.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: But you need to go out there,
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: because I was the emcee, to go tell them that Megadeth's not coming on.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, holy fuck.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I had to go out with a megaphone, because there's no power.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, jeez.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I said,
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_00: all right,
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: I told the roadie,
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: you gotta film this, because I want to put this on the fucking internet.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: And meanwhile, I love it because they're booing.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, sorry.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, please keep booing.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm filming this.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I was petrified.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, let me at least have this on fucking film because I don't know what's going to happen.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_00: They were so angry.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because it was like a monsoon and no one left.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we don't give a shit.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: When are they coming on?
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: But there was no power.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Is that the one that you,
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_03: I remember reading one,
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was in Oklahoma,
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_03: that you cursed and you were supposed to get fined or some shit like that?
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: Is that the one?
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in Oklahoma City, this venue is outside.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's connected to like a zoo.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a bunch of kids there and families.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a rule, if you curse, It cost you $1,000 a curse.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: And Manson would get cursed like, get charged like $20,000 at the end of the show.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: And every band knew this, you know, going in.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: So they just, I had no idea.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I go on at like five o'clock opener, I forget who was the opening band.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm cursing up a storm.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I get off the stage, some stage man, he goes, who, what's your name?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: I go, why?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, because you cursed.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: I go, so?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, There's a zoo connected here.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: You get fined for every curse.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm taking it out of your pay.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: What's your name?
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I have this comedian friend.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: I go, Artie Fletcher.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, let me write that down.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: So he writes Artie Fletcher down.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, I heard five curses.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's 5,000s coming out of your pay tonight.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: I go, come on.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, no.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: I go, sorry.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, I'm getting paid through Megadeth.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like it comes like a week later through their agent.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: So they're not handing me, you know, no one's handing me checks at the end of the night.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, that's not fair.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to go out again?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I go, yeah.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I go, you want to get charged $1,000?
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: I go, oh man, I'm so sorry.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: Don't do it again, Artie.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then meanwhile, when I went back on my second set, I said nine of them.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's no wonder Artie can't get ahead.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: Artie's credit is in the shitter.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I want to ask you something a little bit odd.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_01: We'll come back to metal in a minute,
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_01: but I watched this documentary,
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: a couple of weeks ago,
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: and I thought about you,
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_01: and to be honest,
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was really kind of annoyed because they purposely avoided the quote-unquote click
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: that You, Norton, Kelly, you know, that click, Jameson, none of you guys were in it.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: It was like David Cross and, you know, that group.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: What's her name?
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: The nerds, the alternative.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Janine Garofalo and whatever.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: Janine's a cool chick.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: I just worked with her tonight in New York City.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know her.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: She's a metalhead.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_01: Is she?
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: But maybe you've seen this doc, maybe you haven't.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: It was on Vice, and it was called Comedy After 9-11.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_01: And they were talking about how people were afraid to go on,
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: and it wasn't until Gilbert really made a 20th hijacker comment,
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: like three weeks after it happened or something, that people loosened up.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: If you even remember it,
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: and again, I only watch it because, you know, anniversary of 9-11 and whatnot.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_01: Was that indeed a tough time?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: And was it really kind of hard to get out there?
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because you can't go out there and not talk about it.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, what are you going to do?
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: Go out there and say, oh, man, how about those Yankees?
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, nobody's going to give a shit.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I remember, you know, look, I...
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think the Comedy Cellar was, I think it happened on a Tuesday, 9-11.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: By Friday, they're doing shows again.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like all the clubs in New York, they took like three days off, which they never do.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I wasn't there.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: I did a show down in Atlantic City, and it was some benefit show.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was like at Trump Plaza.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_00: Trump was actually there.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: It was the first and only time I ever met him.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: And we just said, you know, we'll donate all the money to 9-11.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: And the crowd was kind of weird that night.
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• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, they were like ready to laugh.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that was like four or five days later.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: So, but it wasn't, but within 10 days, everyone in New York felt bad.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes you can get away with a joke.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: I did a Lindsey Clancy joke tonight and they didn't fucking like it.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's two weeks old.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: You'd think they would like get over it and understand that it was funny, but they did it.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe it should have been them that was killed instead of the kids.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: How can you defend that broad?
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Jesus.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy that she fucking murdered her three kids and they're like,
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: well, you know, because she had postpartum depression.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, go get it fucking fixed.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Stop taking fucking every prescription pill or whatever.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: You killed your kids no matter what.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's not, there's no, there's no level of, well, that's excusable.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's a precedent.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's terrible.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like that, that woman, Andrea Yates back in like, yeah, in Houston, that was a famous story.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like I got to let her out of jail now.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because she drowned her five kids.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: How about Susan Smith?
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: She dumped her car in the water, right?
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Left the kids in the back.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: She kept them in the car seats and they were strapped in.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: So at least she was safe.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_01: Look, Susan Smith gets a pass because she's giving all the guards blowjobs.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I know.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: She's talking about everybody.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's fucking beautiful.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: She's got all these fucking sugar daddies giving her money.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: She had a lesbian relationship.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: Some chick just got out of prison.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me and Susan Smith were together.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: So good for her.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_01: Good for her.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to ask this one for the chat room,
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: and you can tell me that you're not going to answer it, which is fine.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm five inches, Chris.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: No, I wasn't going to ask that.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: I would have to come from the chat room.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: They want to know what was the Lindsay Clancy joke.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I know you guys don't like to just say, well, here's the joke.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care because it didn't work anyway.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: I just said, I said,
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm working on a new set, which I am because my comedy special just came out.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: I said, my son's 16 now.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: And it's good that he's 16 at this age because now I don't have to have a babysitter.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: He could be by himself in the house.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it saves me a lot of money.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I can also lose Lindsay Clancy's phone number.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, that bitch cost me a lot of money.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: I had to build a ramp just to get her in my house.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: I hide all my exercise bands.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't easy.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it got like a one on a scale of one to 10.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: I did it three times tonight.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: Was it a room full of chicks?
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was everybody.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: But you bring it up.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden, they think about fucking dead babies.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: And the guys can't laugh because they're with their chick.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what it was.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: I knew it wasn't going to work, but I just do it for me.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: But you never know.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: It might have gone way over.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: You never know.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: There's like three people I laughed at.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm just doing it for you.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Where is the line if there is a line?
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a line for you of something you just won't touch?
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: Probably not.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: But sometimes you're like, yeah, I'm not going to go that far.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: It depends what the situation is, but I never get offended if someone does.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, whatever that line is.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't think there is, if you can make it funny.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: But then people judge it.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it wasn't funny.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: If it was funny, then it'd be okay.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's your, I don't know what your sense of humor is.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do you laugh at fucking a commercial when they say it's hump day and they have a camel?
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_00: If you laugh at that, I don't know, you don't have a good sense of humor.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're more interested in talking about how great it is to have Friendsgiving
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: That made me laugh so fucking hard in your podcast this week.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: The Friendsgiving or whatever it is.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's a true story.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: My nephew,
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: and I have it in my comedy special,
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: my nephew,
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: like last year,
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: he's like, yeah, we're going to have a Friendsgiving and we're watching football.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I turn around, I go, what'd you say?
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love the music.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_00: I muted the fucking TV watching football.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you say?
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, I said, we're having a Friendsgiving.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: I go, and I knew what it was because I go, what is that?
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, well, it's just a bunch of our friends are getting together.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I go, don't ever say that in my house again.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: I go, say the N-word in my house before you say Friendsgiven.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Say it to my black friend's face in my house before you say Friendsgiven.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's too funny.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's swing back to music, man.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: Kid Rock.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: He's obviously a lightning rod.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Of, you know, controversy.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a big fan, so I'm,
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a big, big fan of what he does, and I could give a shit what his politics are.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I'll kind of tie this,
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: because I know you saw Nugent as well, and me and you actually messaged about it.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Is it smart to kind of,
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: for these guys now,
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: with the political climate as dumb as it is right now,
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: to kind of ease up on that on the stages?
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he doesn't – Kid Rock,
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: I saw him on the last tour like three years ago maybe and Trump came on video on
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: the encore and he just said, hey, you're a Kid Rock show.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's a bad golfer.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm better than him, whatever.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that,
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_00: he didn't talk about politics and this time he didn't talk about politics either.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_00: So he doesn't talk about it.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ted did just a little bit, and that was it.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_00: But Kid Rock, I think he made a mistake doing that alternative Super Bowl halftime show.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: You think so?
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think so.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was well-watched.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it had a lot of views.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: But with the video,
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_00: he pre-recorded it and stuff like that,
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: and it wasn't synced up, so it kind of looked, I don't know.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think he should have stayed away from that.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, come on.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: We all want a rock act.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, it's never going to happen until Jay-Z's not booking that Super Bowl.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_00: So if you think Metallica might play this year or somebody else, it ain't happening.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: Taylor Swift might be the only one, maybe.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, Jay-Z,
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_00: if you think about it,
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Jay-Z has never booked a white act since he took over four or five years ago,
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: and he won't.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: And nobody knew who that fucking...
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: What was it, Bad Bunny was before this, but he's a huge, all around the world, he's huge.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_00: I never even heard of him.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: So there's going to be another black or Spanish or whatever fucking act it is.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even get mad.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's like the Rockville Hall of Fame.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: How can this band not be in?
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_00: I go, who cares?
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't affect me in any way.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: And a Super Bowl halftime show, I'm putting fucking bets in for the second half.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: Getting food or whatever.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't give a shit.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: I never watched a halftime show.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Well, speaking,
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: too, of Kid Rock, I know you love Jelly Roll and Post Malone and Machine Gun Kelly.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_03: But no, in reality, though, I mean,
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_03: if you think about those guys because they can't pick what they want to do,
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: we got to be honest, though, Kid Rock is the first one to ever do that.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_03: He's the first one to go all over the freaking place and kind of maybe set
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_03: a precedent for those guys.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're right.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good point.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_00: That is a good point.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, Devil Without a Cause is a fucking amazing record.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: Today, it still stands.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's not dated or anything like that.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he did go to more like a country, kind of Bob Seger, Tom.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: Petty kind of route.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I get your point on that.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: I never thought about that.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_00: But Kid Rock is still.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: He puts his politics and whatever his beliefs on his sleeve.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: Unlike those other fucking phonies, especially Jelly Roller.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: Just whatever.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_00: What do I got to say?
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: This.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I say this.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: OK, what do I got to say here?
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: What do I got to say here?
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_00: Kid Rock's not like that.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that affects his audience.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's why Ted Nugent is not in the Rock Hall of Fame.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because there's political views.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: And Kid Rock might be doing stadiums if he just kept his mouth shut about politics.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_00: But he doesn't.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: And when Jelly Roll hosted, you know, Jimmy Kimmel says, well, now I have to play to this crowd.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: He's a fucking fraud.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's a puppet.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's going to come out at some point and go, they wrote the jokes for me.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_00: I just said them.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: So you're going to say, you know, that's what he's going to say.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: But meanwhile, he knew what he was doing.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now he's trying to get back in the right side by using God now.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now it's, I have to speak with God and he's going to give me my next decide.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: Shut the fuck up.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_00: You were cheating on your wife for fucking, you know, that stuck by you.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: You're a real Christian.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, for 10 months he was having an affair banging chicks.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you're a real Christian.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, but you know, he had to do that because he was so...
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_01: Mentally locked in on losing that weight and all that exercise he was doing.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: Look, it's the first time in history somebody's lost 300 pounds in a year.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: In a year without, you know.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: Widow's epic being around.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: But he didn't use it in the other ones.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, he just did it in the old-fashioned way.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: Because there was one video of him jogging,
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: which he called TMZ to say, hey, I'm outside of UCLA.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_00: Come here at 930.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be jogging.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then he used the WWF.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, did you remember when he did the, what is it, WrestleMania or whatever?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, did you tell me or somebody else told me that they fucking hated him?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they hated him.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, they hated him and they hated Pat McAfee so bad on that.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: But the setup,
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: like they did like something first,
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_01: like another pay-per-view or some shit,
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: and then an episode of Raw or something first.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_01: And they kept showing these vignette packages of jelly roll exercising so
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: that you would think, look at this guy.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_01: And they were working so hard on that.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: This guy is focused to be part of the WWE.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it was like him pushing up one dumbbell or something.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_01: It was just like, look at the effort this guy's putting in to get in shape for WrestleMania.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, you fucking frauds.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile,
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: they filmed that one time and then he put it down and probably had somebody give him
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: a massage from lifting 50 pounds.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: Or it was like they brought in a bar that didn't weigh 45 pounds, weighed nothing.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_01: Took the sand out of one of them sand weights or whatever.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because you know that if they liked him, he'd still be wrestling here and there.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_00: He'd make like four or five appearances.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: He'll try anything to be famous, anything.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: Just that he's laying low for like the last couple of weeks is crazy because he's got to come.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_00: He'll be in a children's hospital by Monday.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_00: And there'll be video and tell you, hey, you're a Jelly Roll fan.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, how's it going?
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_00: See, I'm going to disagree.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's going to disappear for a little while.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: He should, but he never listens to anybody.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_00: Some people do.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_00: Unless he's got someone right in his...
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's made every mistake possible for the last two years.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_00: So unless somebody gets in his ear and goes, just fucking go away for a year.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'll bet you disappear.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to go for a year.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_01: I'm betting he's going to go away.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: Until Super Bowl ad season.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then we will be back for Super Bowl for whatever,
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: for Rowe or Hymns or whatever horse shit that there is.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_01: See, I was a fat fuck too, and now I took Hymns, and now I'm 180 pounds.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's a good point.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he stays, lays low for three or four months.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because his last thing he said is, I'm reading the Bible to find out what I'm going to do next.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he said if God tells him to go to a homeless shelter, he's going to go work.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's good.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_00: What page is that on, by the way?
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: What are the odds that he's going to go to a homeless shelter
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_00: and just quit doing music and you never hear from him again?
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: Go to the homeless center without a fucking photographer.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_01: Then I might give a shit.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_00: all these, like,
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_00: my old manager,
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_00: his wife used to work for Splash,
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: which is like,
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_00: you know, TMZ,
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: whatever,
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: it wasn't as big or whatever,
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_00: but all these,
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_00: 95% of the celebrities call them and say, hey,
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: we're gonna be at this place,
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_00: Jelly Roll's gonna be drunk,
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: so all of that shit is set up,
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_00: them coming out of a restaurant or whatever,
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: and then when they find out bad shit about you,
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: They go,
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: you know what,
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_00: let's leave it alone because they always give us tips when you're walking out
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: a restaurant.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what all of them do it.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: So whenever Jelly Roll, he's not just walking down the street.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: He's not just jogging and they found them.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's all set up.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: All set up, yeah.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: I know you had to be excited on whatever it was,
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_01: Sunday night or Monday,
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: whichever night it was,
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_01: when we got to see Taylor Swift and Tom Cruise together in the booth.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: That had to make you happy.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: God.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: Look, she laid low for a year.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: She knew everyone hated her.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: that Super Bowl where she got booed when they panned to her,
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_00: I watched that over and over again.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was one of the top five greatest moments of my life.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because the reaction of her is like, everybody loves me.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: What are you talking about?
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: You have no idea what world you're in.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: So she and her excuse last year was she was only in the back of the box.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they catch her way back there.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, she's afraid of a sniper that she might get killed.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I said, wow.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess the sniper went away because now she's right back in the front again.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_00: She laid low for a year.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: She knew, OK, let me get away from these NFL fans.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_00: So they stop hating me and maybe I'll slowly come back.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: Now that we're married.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I'm just his wife watching the game.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I don't know if you watched it or not, the game this week.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was Sunday night's game, I think.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was the Monday night game.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: The Monday night game.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: They couldn't show her enough.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_01: It was brutal.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_01: Kelsey caught a ball for like two yards, and they're like, ah!
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_01: And they had fucking Jason Kelsey up there and the fucking Fat Mom.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, they had them all up there.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: And they couldn't wait to keep showing that.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_01: And Tom Cruise is like, fuck all of you guys.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: What a Tom Cruise.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, they're just star fuckers.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_00: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: They just want to be around stars.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: If you're like a regular person, they've got no use for you.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_00: Taylor Swift has no childhood friends.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's only celebrities.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_00: And she has a falling out because she's a fucking child.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking to them anymore.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking to them.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_00: What could Tom Cruise and Taylor Swift be talking about?
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_00: Tom's like, well, how do you suck a dick?
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_00: Do you get the whole thing or just a tip?
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_00: Tom's like, Taylor, I've been sucking dick for fucking 47 years.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: Work the balls.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's what they were talking about.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: Dude.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_01: Another thing that you just said in the newest Everybody Is Awful podcast,
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_01: I was crying laughing.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_01: You dissected that Jason Kelsey fucking commercial.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, commercial, yeah, to the T. Oh, my God.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: That sweater.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_01: The sweater thing had me laughing my ass off.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody would wear that sweater.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's a football player.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: Wear your own jersey, your real Eagles, Kelsey jersey.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, all right, it's this fucking, you know, but that goofy sweater.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, don't worry.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, he's the dumb guy.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's an 80s sitcom.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: Totally.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we've got people go, don't worry, honey.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: And he's fucking pouring the shit the wrong way because he's an idiot and she's smart.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_01: I was dying about the sweat.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_01: You were talking about it was a bad sweater.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: In my head, it wasn't that he was wearing a bad sweater.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_01: I was more in the, what man wears a sweater in 2026?
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_03: Watching football,
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit if you're outside shoveling snow.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: What man wears a sweater in 2026?
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_01: We all wear hoodies.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_00: And to watch a football game, and he actually played football.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: I had football people over last Sunday for opening day at my house
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: to watch football, and my 58-year-old friend was naked by the third quarter.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_00: He was wearing a Dan Marino jersey, took it off, and he was completely naked.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_00: And meanwhile, Jason, who's played football, is in a fucking gay sweater in a commercial.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's a guy who would just go, okay, is that what you want me to wear?
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because I just want to be famous.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_00: If he had anything, go, listen, I'm not wearing that.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: I want to wear an eagle jersey or something or a hoodie or a sweatshirt.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not wearing a fucking sweater.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he didn't want to make all his multicultural friends upset by not wearing a sweater.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_00: It was unbelievable.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was like World Nations in the fucking background.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile,
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_00: in my basement,
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_00: there's fucking 11 white guys that are fucking alcoholics and racists.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_01: See, that's why you're a bad fan, man.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_01: You're a bad NFL fan.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: You're not wearing a faggy sweater.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well, look, the Indian guy comes to deliver pizza, so we have some color.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we invite him in, so...
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, what do you think about comedy right now seemingly coming back?
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm pointing to,
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: obviously we talked about that you've got to,
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_01: the telemarketers is done well and,
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_01: Jersey Trash is,
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: I haven't seen numbers on it yet, but I'm imagining it's going to do equally well.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_01: Can't imagine why it wouldn't when people are seeing your name with one thing.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_01: They'll watch another.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_01: Then I saw Landau's special on Tuesday or the Gas Digital special.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I just happened to breeze through it today because Dave was texting me
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_01: about fixing his website or something.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I just looked it up real quick.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: And he's got like 110,000 views in like four days or something.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, man, comedy is back.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_01: For guys like yourself or Landau or whatever that are kind of the don't give a fuck comics now.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: It was dead for a while.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: It seemed like it was really hard for you guys.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: For a while, but it seems like it's back.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_01: Do you feel that?
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I work in New York City.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_00: I work at this club.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_00: The audience is like 21 to like 30.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_00: The hot chicks, you know, with dates or whatever like that, they have no fucking clue who I am.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I like that because I want to see if my jokes will work in front of them.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: And they're not sensitive at all.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_00: And this is New York City.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing they won't laugh at is like trans stuff.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_00: They just don't go for it.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_00: They're not going to groan.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_00: They're just like, eh.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of played out anyway.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you do like race stuff,
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_00: if you're a white guy and you go into race stuff,
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_00: I just so other than that, they're in for anything.
• 1:09:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's why comedy is so big now that people aren't,
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: the younger generation,
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_00: my son and his friends all love these comics and they all love like Kids,
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_00: people pulling pranks on each other.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_00: They got a good sense of humor.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're not offended by anything.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_00: They make fun of the pronouns and all that bullshit.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_00: And when everybody's just building their own little platform,
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_00: that's how this stuff is getting so big.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have to go through the networks anymore.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have to go through David Letterman, The Tonight Show, or HBO or Comedy Central.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's the only way you can get ahead years ago.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's in a great place, comedy.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone has their own little audience, which is great.
• 1:10:37
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• 1:10:39
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• 1:10:44
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• 1:10:45
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• 1:10:46
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• 1:10:52
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• 1:10:55
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• 1:10:59
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• 1:11:00
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• 1:11:07
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• 1:11:10
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• 1:11:12
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• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I see on,
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:11:17
  SPEAKER_03: on social media, though, I mean, to me,
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: what's always in,
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: like on feeds and stuff is still all the politics stuff,
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_03: you know, the Ben Bankist or the Cliff Cash type of guys.
• 1:11:27
  SPEAKER_03: For a guy like yourself,
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_03: who is not like a political,
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_03: you You make fun of everybody, and you don't take sides or whatever.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, has that been still a challenge with the youngsters, or are they still open?
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they probably like you better because you're not,
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_03: so you can kind of bring in the ones that aren't.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_03: Because those guys are doing really well, too, though, the political guys.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, you know, the younger audience doesn't want to hear it.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, New York City's super liberal and they're comical up on stage.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Could you believe what Trump did today?
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_00: He did this?
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they're just like, huh?
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_00: And listen, we're here to laugh.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hear this stuff.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're not going, yeah, fuck Trump and sharing it like that.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_00: They don't want to hear it.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_00: They don't give a shit, which is good.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's good, yeah.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't talk about,
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_00: I never talk about politics on stage because it's like I'm not going to fight
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_00: with half the crowd.
• 1:12:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's like telling, you know, you got a favorite sports team.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Is a Cowboy fan going to convince you to be an Eagles fan?
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: If you sit one up for two hours, it's just not going to happen.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't want that fight.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, you know, guys like Bill Maher do it well.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_00: So let them do it.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good at doing dick jokes.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: As it should be, man.
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_01: There's no reason for it.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly...
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: The way you do it is just so much more universal to...
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Regular dickwads like myself that are just regular dudes.
• 1:12:56
  SPEAKER_01: It just seems like everybody you mentioned, it doesn't matter what their political alignment is.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_01: I can't listen to Ben Bankis.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_01: I can't listen to Bill Maher because fuck you.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_01: I go to a comedy show or a metal show or whatever to pretend that shit doesn't exist
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_01: for a
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, get away from it.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Two or three hours.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be reminded that the world fucking blows goats.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want to fucking hear a joke about blowing goats.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's kind of where I stand.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Springsteen did a whole tour about no kings or whatever.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to trash Trump in between songs.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: What is he going to say?
• 1:13:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's an orange man and bad?
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, I got to go see that.
• 1:13:46
  SPEAKER_01: How daring after you've made your billion dollars.
• 1:13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know that you can alienate some of your fans.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's great.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_00: What a chance you took.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_00: You're a rebel.
• 1:13:55
  SPEAKER_00: I remember there was an album we put out like three albums ago, maybe like 10, 12 years ago.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they go, Bruce Springsteen, this is his most personal lyrics.
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's going after the bankers.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that's nuts.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_00: You don't like the bankers that fucking rip people off?
• 1:14:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa, what a chance he's taken.
• 1:14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck out of here.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Talk about a fucking phony, overrated piece of shit.
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_00: The worst Super Bowl halftime show of all time was him.
• 1:14:24
  SPEAKER_00: If you watch it back on YouTube, it's the corniest thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_01: All right, what's the best one?
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_01: He stinks.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_01: What's the best one?
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_01: If that's the worst, what's the best?
• 1:14:35
  SPEAKER_00: I never really watched him.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_00: I guess, I don't know, who was...
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take Prince all day.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take Prince.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was going to say that.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was a good show.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Most of them suck.
• 1:14:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, most of them.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, your other choices are what?
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Bruno Mars, Maroon 5?
• 1:14:55
  SPEAKER_03: Who was on there?
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_03: But they were just older.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_03: It was kind of, you know.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I have a big Super Bowl party every year.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_00: And whenever halftime comes, I put it on mute.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: I go, listen, anyone wants to watch the fucking halftime show, go upstairs.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're cranking fucking Black Sabbath.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_00: For a half hour.
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't fucking turn it up during a Super Bowl commercial.
• 1:15:17
  SPEAKER_00: I go, no, I don't give a fuck about the Doritos or any of that stuff.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_00: But I send everybody upstairs if you want to watch that shit.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I never watch it.
• 1:15:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even acknowledge it.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the commercial thing is kind of over, isn't it?
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 1:15:30
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're done with that.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_00: What was the best one?
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_00: What was the worst one?
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was that fucking corny fucking Z Morning Zoo radio the next day.
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_00: What was your favorite?
• 1:15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Let me know which one.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take some phone calls.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Call in now.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, call in now.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Which one was your least favorite?
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't like the Pepsi one?
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of liked it.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_00: The goat drinking the Pepsi?
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_00: That was wonderful.
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_00: That was a funny one.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_00: When the animals were talking, that was hilarious.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_00: That was funny.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's no Liberty Biberty, that's for sure.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't watch regular TV, so I don't see this shit until the NFL starts.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:16:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm getting bombarded with these fucking,
• 1:16:12
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_00: like I was saying in my podcast,
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_00: all the white guys have to always do something stupid.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_00: They got to crash through tables.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the guy's fucking parasailing.
• 1:16:21
  SPEAKER_00: They crash into the side of a wall or whatever.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_00: That white guy beat him up.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_00: No one's laughing at that.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_01: The ironic part is that guy is a great actor in real life.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why he's doing those fucking covers.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's that Dean Withers.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and he's like on Oz.
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_01: He was fucking awesome on that show.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_01: And he was really good on Law & Order.
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_01: The one with the, what's her name?
• 1:16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Mariska Hargitay.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the SVU.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: He's real good on that, too.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah,
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_01: it's embarrassing to see him going from a badass on Oz to
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_01: a guy that's fucking wearing a team mascot and driving his car into the back of
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_01: a bus or something.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, what happened to you?
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do you really need money that bad?
• 1:17:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's brand awareness, but everyone knows about Liberty Mutual.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone knows about Progressive.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone knows about Pepsi.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows about Coke.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_00: So for you to do a fucking $2 million commercial pay, what, $2 million for 30 seconds?
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:17:25
  SPEAKER_00: We already know about your insurance.
• 1:17:27
  SPEAKER_00: I always say, just have a guy come on in 15 seconds and go, hey, we have insurance.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_00: We could probably beat every rate by 15% to 20%.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Just check us out.
• 1:17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Go to this website.
• 1:17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Give us a chance.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_00: I think you'd be surprised.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's the commercial.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't need a guy fucking power sailing hitting off a fucking bus.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Who cares?
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Why would I buy that?
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_00: We're all paying for that.
• 1:17:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 1:17:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's the saddest part.
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_00: We're paying for it.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_01: I loved your breakdown where you said,
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_01: my insurance is $2,200 a year,
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_01: but if they weren't doing that fucking Super Bowl commercial, it'd be like $1,400.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it would be.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_01: And you're 100% right.
• 1:18:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's true.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_00: $2,200 a year.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't had that accident in 30 years.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it should be $300 a year.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because I guess I'm not married, so it's more because of divorce.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because they think single men are more angry behind the wheel than married men.
• 1:18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Married men are ten times worse.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they're mad about this bitch getting in their ear every night.
• 1:18:27
  SPEAKER_00: They just want to get in the car and just go take a drive to get away from them.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_01: They want to drive off a bridge.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, all right, man.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think we're going to wrap this one up.
• 1:18:42
  SPEAKER_01: This has been a lot of fun.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Give the pluggy plugs so that people know where to buy your shit.
• 1:18:51
  SPEAKER_00: My new comedy special, Jersey Trash, on Prime Video now.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_00: You can watch it there.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_00: And Terrorizing Telemarketers Volume 8 with Don Jameson is out now.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's number one on iTunes and number one on Amazon Comedy, Amazon Music, whatever comedy.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_00: So...
• 1:19:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you hate telemarketers, you'll like what we did, and we have eight albums of this nonsense.
• 1:19:12
  SPEAKER_00: So check it out, Terrorizing Telemarketers, Volume 8.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_00: And my comedy special is also on audio, so you can listen to it wherever you stream.
• 1:19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Very good.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well, dude, in all seriousness, I'm happy for you.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to sound like a faggot that you'll then go and bash on your podcast,
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_01: but I'm happy for you and Don that this thing has done well, man.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's great to see the friends doing well,
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm happy that That it's happening and not that you need it to be number one
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_01: or any of that shit, but it's a nice accomplishment, man.
• 1:19:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, it definitely is.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you could just get that Shane Gillis audience, you'd be all set, right?
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_00: 78,000 tickets.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_01: See, I'm going to tell you the truth.
• 1:19:57
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't want to see that.
• 1:19:59
  SPEAKER_01: I would not want to see a comedian in a stadium.
• 1:20:02
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's tough.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_00: I saw Shane at the Garden.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like three months before that.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm friends with him.
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_00: So my kids are big fans.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_00: So we went and you're watching the show like on a monitor.
• 1:20:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's weird.
• 1:20:14
  SPEAKER_00: And comedy just doesn't work in a big room like that.
• 1:20:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I think because he's from Philly, well, not Philly, Harrisburg, a couple of hours out.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_00: So everybody loves him.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_00: So he's like, I got to do my home, my Eagles.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_00: I got to do that stadium and stuff.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I think people just went there as like an event, a tailgate.
• 1:20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And stuff.
• 1:20:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not imagining a comedy show was that great because it's the laughs get,
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_00: you know, out in the frigging, you know, outside and all that shit.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_00: But I think he just wanted to do it once just to do it.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it was great because what's her face?
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Chelsea Handler was giving him shit about the roast.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, hey, Chelsea, put a statement out.
• 1:20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Chelsea, you know, I know you're getting a lot of publicity.
• 1:20:56
  SPEAKER_00: You got a new tour coming up.
• 1:20:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's great that you're using my name to do it.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to let you know, good luck.
• 1:21:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I got to prepare that I'm doing a football stadium in July.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's beautiful.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, why can't he get you on tires?
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would like that.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, if there's ever a role, you know, for me.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_00: But he knows I'm out there.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_00: He knows where to find me.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to tell me you can't find a fucking role for a mechanic?
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he likes all the guys that grew up in Philly.
• 1:21:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm more of a Jersey guy, so he takes care of all his boys, which I respect.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_00: So if I would have grown up in Philly, I'd probably be the fucking lead guy right now.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_01: You'd be the guy wielding the gun.
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_00: That show's great.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_00: All the kids love it.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like my 16-year-old son,
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_00: they go to these house parties,
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_00: and all the boys go, put tires on, or a girl goes, it's stupid.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's not even funny.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because they call everybody gay, every fucking joke, and I love it.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's hilarious.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's what guys do.
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_03: That's great.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's what you do, yeah.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you do.
• 1:22:01
  SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, everybody in the chat room is making fun of me,
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_01: calling me Eddie Akin because I said I was your friend, like Eddie does.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_01: No, you are, man.
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_01: No, they're making fun because Eddie always with the,
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_01: hey, here's my friend, you know, Mariah from Plush or whatever.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, everybody's his friend.
• 1:22:20
  SPEAKER_01: So now they're making fun of me.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm all right, whatever.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking to you.
• 1:22:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm putting in my Eddie-isms, I guess.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, I know Eddie gets a lot of flack online, but look, he gets great interviews.
• 1:22:31
  SPEAKER_00: He just had Sammy, Tony, and he's a great interviewer.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_03: He's amazing.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_03: He is amazing.
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you got to know Eddie,
• 1:22:38
  SPEAKER_00: like if you were friends with him,
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_00: he's a fucking great guy and he's fun to be around.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's fucking angry.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's bitter.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: He fucking, I love, he's funny.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And stuff.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I get it.
• 1:22:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people,
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_00: there's a persona out there that don't necessarily like him,
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_00: but he, you know, I don't know.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's great.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I love him.
• 1:22:56
  SPEAKER_00: And if you really got to know him, you would go, this fucking guy's pretty cool.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_00: But of course, you know, you got to build it up.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Look, he's the number one guy out there.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's getting good interviews.
• 1:23:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in a business with comedians that everyone's got an ego.
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_00: The women are trying to break them up, just like guys in bands.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Guys in bands need to be taken care of most of them.
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_00: They need mommies.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_00: They've got to play the instrument and that's it.
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_00: And there's women getting involved in their life and they fucking break up the band.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because they don't know how to make a decision on that.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_01: We were literally saying that at the beginning of the show tonight about how
• 1:23:33
  SPEAKER_01: with bands,
• 1:23:34
  SPEAKER_01: there's like one business guy and a bunch of dumb fucks that would be changing tires
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever if they hadn't figured out that they could play guitar.
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:23:42
  SPEAKER_00: I used to live with guys in bands when I was living down in Florida in the 80s.
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_00: One guy, I was writing out a fucking bill and going to bring it to the post office.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, what is that?
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_00: I go, I got to pay a bill.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, how do you pay a bill?
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you do?
• 1:23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you mail it out to where?
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, he didn't even know that.
• 1:24:02
  SPEAKER_00: I just gave it to my chick.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_00: He'd bring a beer into the shower.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_00: So I respected that.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_00: He'd bring a fucking bottle in there.
• 1:24:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, yeah, I might as well keep drinking.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I going to stop, though, when I'm taking a shower?
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I respect that.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_00: But they are dumb, a lot of them.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Most of them.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_00: And a woman comes in and totally takes control.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Takes control, absolutely.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of times it goes sideways.
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_00: What time didn't it?
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_01: What time didn't it?
• 1:24:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Dave Medichetti and his wife.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because she kind of runs the business.
• 1:24:38
  SPEAKER_01: He was never huge.
• 1:24:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, okay.
• 1:24:40
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, look.
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_00: All...
• 1:24:42
  SPEAKER_00: The shit that Sharon Osbourne gets, there wouldn't be an Ozzy.
• 1:24:45
  SPEAKER_00: There would have never been a solo if she didn't fucking rescue me and then be
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_00: a fucking pitbull of the businesswoman and go, no, we're fucking doing this.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_00: And because they didn't want an Ozzy on Lollapalooza,
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_00: she goes, I'll start my own fucking festival.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_00: And OzFest came in at.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_01: I guess you could say Wendy Dio, too.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_01: She's sort of, I mean, I wish she would stop
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_00: selling her.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows if she broke up the original Sabbath with Dio,
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_00: you know, because they had to fall on out.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's always about money.
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it just sucks.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_01: With her,
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_01: the worst thing I hate now is the guy's been dead,
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_01: what, 15 years or whatever it is, and she's out there selling money.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever she can find.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_01: Here's a phone message or something.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_01: Here, put it out there.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, fuck.
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, it's Ronnie.
• 1:25:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not here right now.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Leave a message.
• 1:25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'll pay extra for that.
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_01: Too dumb.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_01: All right, man.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thanks for coming on, dude.
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_01: I know you probably beat after doing a show and then coming on with us for,
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_01: what, two hours or whatever.
• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's all good, man.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun, man.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_00: I love doing this shit, just talking shit, talking music and all that stuff.
• 1:25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
• 1:25:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, speaking of the music, let's get back to it.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_01: We are going to bring up some thrash.
• 1:25:59
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to play a band that I'm digging a lot called Harlot.
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_01: So hang out, everybody.
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, they're out of, where are they from?
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Portland.
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_01: They're from the Bay Area.
• 1:26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, they're from, they're on Metal Blade, right?
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, these guys are good.
• 1:26:13
  SPEAKER_00: I like them.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_01: They're fucking kick-ass, man.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_01: I just chatted with the guy.
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_01: With the guy from the band.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_01: And this is so awful.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even remember his name.
• 1:26:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I just talked to him last week, but I don't remember his name.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_01: But great band.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_01: I love him.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that's metal, like true metal, I'm all in.
• 1:26:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Jim, thanks so much.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody, go buy Jim's stuff.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, guys, man.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_01: And here's Harlot right here on your classic, Metal Shift.
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