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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider. The podcast.
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Speaker 1: It's all about the geeky stuff happening in the world
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Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about it.
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Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Gaston and with me, as always is Jonathan
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Speaker 1: the spine Tingler. Strickler. No, that sounds horrible. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: take that. No, No, I like it. No, No, I
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Speaker 1: like it. I'm gonna be the spin tingler. Watch out,
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Speaker 1: I'll tingle your spins. I'm like William Castle. You come
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Speaker 1: in and watch a movie and ask I'm just sitting
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Speaker 1: there going up and down your spine. It's like four
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Speaker 1: D movies sitting with Jonathan Strickland. Hi. I'm Jonathan. Hi Jonathan. Hey, Ariel, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I got a question for you. Okay, Ariel. We are
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Speaker 1: well and truly in the spoopy season. So you've got
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Speaker 1: a spoopy question to answer. Not really spoopy, but what
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Speaker 1: is a fun movie or television special that you typically
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Speaker 1: like to watch around Halloween? Well, ah, there are many
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Speaker 1: movies that are kind of scary but fun that I
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Speaker 1: like to watch, but many of them are like Christmas
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Speaker 1: movies like Gremlins, or I didn't I didn't watch until
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Speaker 1: I was much later, like I didn't watch Beetlejuice until
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Speaker 1: I want to say, like the last five ten years.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, my f and now I really want to
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Speaker 1: go see the musical. But my favorite like holiday Halloween
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Speaker 1: holiday special to watch is it's The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.
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Speaker 1: An excellent answer, A really excellent answer. I also have
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Speaker 1: a deep appreciation and love for that special, just as
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Speaker 1: I do the Peanuts Christmas Special. But the Great Pumpkin
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Speaker 1: is it's got a special place in my heart. I mean,
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Speaker 1: like I still will say I got a rock, you know,
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Speaker 1: quoting Charlie Brown and his Trick or Treat misadventures. So
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Speaker 1: you want to talk a little bit about what you
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Speaker 1: love about that show? Yes, what I like about it
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Speaker 1: is it's a fun way to enjoy Halloween and still
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Speaker 1: leave out of watching it feeling uplifted. I mean, really
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Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's it's it's happy, and it's nostalgic.
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Speaker 1: And I love the Peanuts Gang, the Charlie Brown Gang,
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Speaker 1: as it were, Like it's hard for me to just
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Speaker 1: put my finger on it's one of those things that
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Speaker 1: I think I've watched since I was very very young,
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Speaker 1: So it's it's just like synonymous with Fall for me.
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Speaker 1: It's a great answer. It's a it's it's fantasy. I
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Speaker 1: love that one too. But another one I try and
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Speaker 1: watch every year is Halloween. The original John Carpenter Halloween
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Speaker 1: still holds up still very very atmospheric and scary movie
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Speaker 1: is not like a lot of people think it of
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Speaker 1: it because of they will say it's like a slasher film,
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Speaker 1: like it was the movie that started that really started
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Speaker 1: the slasher category. I mean, you had Texas Chainsaw Massacre
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Speaker 1: before Halloween. But I would argue that Halloween's not really
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Speaker 1: a slasher film. There's not much gore in it at all,
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Speaker 1: which I think of as being a hallmark of your
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Speaker 1: typical slasher films like Friday the Thirteenth and Nightmare on
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Speaker 1: Elm Street and all that kind of stuff. But it
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Speaker 1: is atmospheric and creepy, and it's kind of like Jaws,
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Speaker 1: where the camera spends time looking at dark spaces and
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Speaker 1: you're never really sure if there's something there or not.
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Speaker 1: In fact, spoiler alert, that's how the movie end. You
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Speaker 1: are given the feeling that Michael Myers has survived his attack,
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Speaker 1: like at the end of the film, and you don't
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Speaker 1: know where he is, and you feel like the camera
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Speaker 1: is trying to tell you where he is, but you
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Speaker 1: can't see anything. And to me, that's really super creepy. Yeah. See,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, that's one of the
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Speaker 1: ones that I've never watched and maybe I should until
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Speaker 1: you said, you know, it leaves you saying, is there
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Speaker 1: something there? I'm afraid of the dark, like that's that
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Speaker 1: in Spiders are my big fears? Yeah, and so you
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Speaker 1: did you ever watch a rachnophobia? Absolutely not, my friend.
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Speaker 1: That's a great movie. John Goodman is so good in it. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's a good movie. You know. It's a great scary movie.
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Speaker 1: Dylan Dog Dead of Night. I have never kiss I
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Speaker 1: don't think I've even heard of that one deals with
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Speaker 1: It deals with werewolves and sabies. It's it's actually a
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Speaker 1: comic book and it's kind of like a detective comic book.
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Speaker 1: It's a really bad movie, but I really love it.
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Speaker 1: It's got Peter Stormare and Ta Diggs and Sam Huntington
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Speaker 1: and Brandon Roof in it. Like it's a crazy cast
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Speaker 1: and it's a really bad movie. Like I love it,
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Speaker 1: I own it. I just call it scary because of
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Speaker 1: its quality and also because there are monsters in it.
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Speaker 1: They have the brilliant line. You know what they say
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Speaker 1: about were wolves. They love the trees. Okay, well, you
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Speaker 1: know because they're liking thropes. Well, they don't explain that.
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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing it's because werewolves are lichen ropes. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I thought it was because you know, dogs have to
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Speaker 1: lift their leg and that would make more sense. Like
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Speaker 1: if you just see, if you just see an actor
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Speaker 1: standing with his back to you facing a tree, you're like, werewolf.
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Speaker 1: Totally werewolf marking territory. Okay, well, now that we have
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Speaker 1: covered that important part of our episode, it's time for
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Speaker 1: us to move on to the news. And the first
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Speaker 1: thing we want to talk about is actually it's just
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Speaker 1: a reaction to something that came out. It was a
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Speaker 1: clip from a property beloved by both Ariel and myself Animaniacs. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so the new Animaniac series, which honestly, I don't love
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Speaker 1: as much as the old Animaniac series. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it's just because it's you know, my time versus
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Speaker 1: the new Time and I'm old and cranky, or if
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Speaker 1: it's just because and it's not what I expected, or
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Speaker 1: if it's just not quite hitting me right. I've heard
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Speaker 1: mixed reviews from some of our friends, but this new
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Speaker 1: clip hits me perfectly. It is a spoof on ThunderCats.
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Speaker 1: It is the best thing out of the new Animaniac series, Like,
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Speaker 1: hands down. I don't care what else they come out with.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be my favorite thing forever. Yeah. Now,
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Speaker 1: the clip shows the Animaniacs siblings as ThunderCats like characters
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Speaker 1: while a ThunderCats like song is playing in the background.
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Speaker 1: That's just referencing the eighties over and over and over again,
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Speaker 1: and just like it is definitely sending up the trend
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Speaker 1: of eighties nostalgia and and I love it. Like eighties
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Speaker 1: nostalgia is a weird thing anyway. In fact, now we're
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Speaker 1: moving into nineties nostalgia, which is also weird to me.
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Speaker 1: I guess it's weird for every generation as they get
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Speaker 1: older to see the stuff that they grew up with
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Speaker 1: coming back into fashion, but eighties in particular, Like when
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Speaker 1: I look back on the eighties and the entertainment that
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Speaker 1: was produced in the eighties, Man, there was a lot
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Speaker 1: of stuff that would just not I mean, it was
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Speaker 1: not good then, but people weren't necessarily woke to it.
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Speaker 1: And I hate using that word, but you know, you
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Speaker 1: watch like some of the eighties entertainment now and you're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: that's super not cool that that joke they just made. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so it's for me to see nostalgia for it. Nineties
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Speaker 1: has a lot of I mean, we're One of the
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Speaker 1: stories we didn't even touch on is the fact that
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a sequel to that seventies show
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Speaker 1: called that Nineties show. And that's just like yeah, that,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, that you told me. I didn't put it
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Speaker 1: in the lineup because I was like, this is too depressing,
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Speaker 1: so want you you want? Well, it was too depressing.
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Speaker 1: You wanted to shield me from it, and then you
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Speaker 1: said it anyhow, thanks if it makes you feel better, Aerial.
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Speaker 1: I lived through the seventies, so I have connections to
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Speaker 1: both of those shows and you only have connections to one.
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Speaker 1: Well now too, but well you say that, but like
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Speaker 1: I was watching a commercial the other day, Yes I
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Speaker 1: still watch commercials, and they played a song from like
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Speaker 1: the early fifties on it, and I knew all the lyrics.
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Speaker 1: But if I go to a karaoke bar, which I
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Speaker 1: haven't done in a while. But if I go to
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Speaker 1: a karaoke bar and I try to sing something that's
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Speaker 1: current that I've listened to a thousand times, I can't
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Speaker 1: give you one, like one solid phrase without messing it up.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I wasn't even alive in the fifties. Why
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Speaker 1: is this the music I remember? Yeah, it just becomes
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Speaker 1: a cultural touchstone. But yes, the Animadias totally tapped into
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Speaker 1: that with the Thundercat's parody. And I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the heck is going on in context with the rest
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Speaker 1: of the cartoon because this is just a little excerpt,
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Speaker 1: But like you, I felt like this was fun and
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Speaker 1: funny and silly in a way that reminds me of
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Speaker 1: the classic Animateiac show. The animation style did as well.
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Speaker 1: I know, the first season of the new series kind
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Speaker 1: of felt a little more remm and stimpy to me,
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Speaker 1: and this felt a little more original series, So I
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Speaker 1: like it. Well, moving on, we also, you know, at
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Speaker 1: the end of the movie Guardians of the Galaxy Volume two,
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Speaker 1: there's this post little credit sequence where we see a
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Speaker 1: sarcophagus that is clearly Adam Warlock inside of it, Adam
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Speaker 1: Warlock being a an important, very powerful character in the
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Speaker 1: Marvel universe, kind of like on the level of Captain
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Speaker 1: Marvel's supposed to be a perfect being like in the comics,
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Speaker 1: just like Vision. Adam Warlock is the vessel for one
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Speaker 1: of the Infinity Stones, the Soul Stone. But we've been
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Speaker 1: waiting since then for any kind of mention of him,
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Speaker 1: like we thought he was going to be showing up
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Speaker 1: at any time now, And now we have confirmation that
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Speaker 1: Adam Warlock will be in Guardians of the Galaxy volume three,
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Speaker 1: and we even know who's going to play him. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Will Poulter, who some of you might know from Black
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Speaker 1: Mirror or we Are the Miller's or Detroit or Dope Sick.
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Speaker 1: I think those are kind of like his biggest things.
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Speaker 1: I guess Maze Runner if you watched Maze Runner. But
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Speaker 1: I know him from Son of Rambo, which might have
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Speaker 1: been his first like big film appearance. It's definitely the
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Speaker 1: first one on his IMDb, which I actually thought was
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Speaker 1: Son of r Ambo, but it's sort of a Son
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Speaker 1: of r Ambo, but it's Son of r Ambow different Rambo,
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Speaker 1: different Rambo, but not entirely. It's a little independent movie
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Speaker 1: and it was an absolute delight and he kind of
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Speaker 1: played like the rough and temple kid and I at
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Speaker 1: like super imaginative. I absolutely loved him, and so now
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Speaker 1: every time I see him in something I like, I
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Speaker 1: absolutely love him. Whether I liked the movie or not,
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Speaker 1: I could think it's a bad movie and his character
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Speaker 1: is a bad character, and for some reason, he still
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Speaker 1: just touches my heart. I love I love that well.
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Speaker 1: One that Tibold has decided that he is the third
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Speaker 1: co host of this show. And two. That's so far
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Speaker 1: we have covered two movies that you have talked about
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Speaker 1: not being good but that you have a genuine love
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Speaker 1: for which I'm all instead of Rambo's really good, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think it's good. If I said it was bad,
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Speaker 1: I didn't need to say that. Maybe that was my misinterpretation.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's not. That's not how it came across
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Speaker 1: to me. The actual son of Rambo, and it's not
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Speaker 1: it's some kid who plays at it. And it wasn't
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Speaker 1: what I expected, but it was really good. I quite
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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I am looking forward to finding out what
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Speaker 1: the MCU version of Adam Warlock is and how he
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Speaker 1: fits into, you know, the overall story in general. I
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Speaker 1: also just really look forward to seeing the final Guardians
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Speaker 1: of the Galaxy film, at least in its you know,
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Speaker 1: current lineup, because we know that certain characters are not
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Speaker 1: going to come back after volume three. So I'm I
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Speaker 1: am I'm I'll be glad to see how it wraps up.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm going to be sad to see certain
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Speaker 1: characters depart. Well, it just the Christmas Special come out
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Speaker 1: before after three. Christmas Special comes out before, so there
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Speaker 1: is that one. I didn't count that one because I
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Speaker 1: forgot that it exists, But though it comes out, that
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Speaker 1: comes out at the end of this year, and Guardians
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Speaker 1: the Galaxy Volume three obviously comes out later. Speaking of forgetting,
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Speaker 1: something that I keep forgetting about is the Netflix Lost
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Speaker 1: in Space, which is maybe why this third season is
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Speaker 1: its last season. I think it's the third season. It
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Speaker 1: is the third season. It is listed as Lost in
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Speaker 1: Space three. I have not watched any of these, so
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Speaker 1: I used to watch the old series in reruns. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't playing while I was a kid. I'm
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Speaker 1: not that old. It was in reruns by the time
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Speaker 1: I was watching it, and I love the old series,
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Speaker 1: but I had never watched the new one. So I
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Speaker 1: watched this trailer literally going in just knowing the little
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Speaker 1: bits I had read about the reboot. I gotta say,
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Speaker 1: the trailer looks like an incredible science fiction trailer. The
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Speaker 1: tone is way more serious than the original series was,
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Speaker 1: which was kind of campy and part I mean, there
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Speaker 1: was like adventure and there were steakes, but it was
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Speaker 1: also kind of campy. This did not come across as
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Speaker 1: campy at all, but it looked. It looked really good.
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Speaker 1: It's super beautiful. So I watched part of the first season.
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Speaker 1: I actually didn't stop watching it because I didn't like it.
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Speaker 1: I just ran out of time and then got distracted
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Speaker 1: by a castle like a goldfish. But the first season,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people I know who liked the original
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Speaker 1: series thought that was a little too dark. You know.
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Speaker 1: They wanted something more uplifting family travel in spaces. You know,
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Speaker 1: there can certainly be dark moments and scary adventures and things,
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Speaker 1: but it was it was just a little bit bleaker
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Speaker 1: than I think some of the people I know were expecting.
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Speaker 1: And I heard that season two was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: more uplifting, less bleak, more like the family going on adventures,
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Speaker 1: like what everybody expected. So this third trailer really did
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Speaker 1: take me by surprise. But you're right. It looks absolutely beautiful.
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Speaker 1: The cgi, the landscaping, the world building in this series
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Speaker 1: is absolutely stunning. I actually have it on my short
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Speaker 1: list to go back and start from the beginning of
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Speaker 1: season one so that I can catch up and watch
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Speaker 1: the entire thing. Yeah, I have a feeling this is
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Speaker 1: one that I'm gonna need to go and check out,
15:12
Speaker 1: because it's also good to know from the outset, like
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Speaker 1: this is a totally different tone from the original series,
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Speaker 1: and I've never seen the movie, so I wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: able to compare it against the film version you talked about,
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Speaker 1: like the nineties movie that was absolutely horrible. Was that
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Speaker 1: Gary Oldman was in that one? Wasn't it very dark?
15:32
Speaker 1: I've never seen darker and not as bad. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: but but yeah, kind of at tentative thumbs up from me,
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Speaker 1: someone who has not watched any of the series but
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Speaker 1: is interested. We have one last little story we want
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Speaker 1: to talk about before we go into break, and that
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Speaker 1: is that we both watched a movie trailer for a
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two film, the sequel to Scream four, titled Scream. Hmm.
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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you so. I had watched the
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Speaker 1: first Scream I think no less than four years ago,
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Speaker 1: no more than four years ago, maybe three, for the
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Speaker 1: first time ever. I've only seen the first one. I
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Speaker 1: started to watch it, and then I got too scared
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Speaker 1: in the opening sequence, I got too anxious and I
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Speaker 1: had to turn it off. And it took me a
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Speaker 1: full year to revisit it. And this trailer starts with
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Speaker 1: a similar scene, and I had all the old feelings rushback.
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Speaker 1: I was so anxious. Jonathan, thank you so much. I
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Speaker 1: loved this trailer. I did not expect to love it
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Speaker 1: because I enjoyed the first Scream. I liked the second screen.
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Speaker 1: The third Scream I didn't like very much, and the
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Speaker 1: fourth Scream I don't even remember. I know I saw it,
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Speaker 1: I saw it in the theater, but I have no
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Speaker 1: real memory of it. I just remember like feeling that,
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Speaker 1: you know. The first Scream was essentially a commentary on
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Speaker 1: the slasher film genre, and it was, you know, a
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Speaker 1: deconstruction of slasher films. In fact, that's part of the
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Speaker 1: plot is one of the characters is listing all the
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Speaker 1: rules that you're supposed to follow if you want to
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Speaker 1: survive a slasher film, and you know it's it's a
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Speaker 1: meta commentary on the genre. The further you go in that,
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Speaker 1: the further away you got from the meta commentary. And
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Speaker 1: I don't really sense any real meta commentary in the
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Speaker 1: trailer for this new screen film. However, it does feel
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Speaker 1: like it could be a really scary entry into the
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Speaker 1: slasher film genre, like just a legit slasher movie. Clearly,
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Speaker 1: this is one that's not directed by Wes Craven. He
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Speaker 1: passed away several years ago, but he was the guy
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Speaker 1: who directed the other films. But it, I mean, it
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Speaker 1: looks very faithful to the spirit of the screen franchise,
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Speaker 1: and I dig it. I also love the fact that
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Speaker 1: they played with something that I have had lots of
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Speaker 1: concerns over that being a Wi Fi connected lock system.
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Speaker 1: M yeah, way to make it extra scary nowadays. I
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Speaker 1: felt like this was the Terminator dark Fate issue of
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Speaker 1: the Scream universe, what with the main character Sidney is
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Speaker 1: her name right, yes, Sydney coming back and kind of
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Speaker 1: being like the tough, seasoned woman bringing the young people
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Speaker 1: through it. What I found scary was that she was like,
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Speaker 1: I always have a knife. That's a line in the trailer.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I just boiled it. Like to me
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Speaker 1: in my brain, I'm like, she just doesn't care if
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Speaker 1: people get killed, Like she obviously cares, but it just
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Speaker 1: doesn't face her. That's scary. That's a whole different level
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Speaker 1: of scary. Maybe other people don't feel. That's also that's
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Speaker 1: also something that is kind of a journey throughout the
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Speaker 1: Scream films, and that you see her change over the course,
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Speaker 1: because obviously anyone who's been through a situation that's similar
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Speaker 1: repeatedly is going to start building up a response to
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Speaker 1: that kind of trauma, and she definitely develops that sort
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Speaker 1: of perspective over the course of the films. So I
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Speaker 1: felt like it was a very natural progression, unlike say
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Speaker 1: the recent Halloween reboot where Jamie Lee Curtis comes back
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Speaker 1: as as Laura Strode and has turned into the paranoid
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Speaker 1: survival freak, but that that version of Halloween ignores all
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Speaker 1: the sequels, so it's just the first Halloween and then
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Speaker 1: that one with nothing in between, and so there's a
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Speaker 1: bigger leap that you know, you don't see the evolution
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Speaker 1: of the character. You just see the extremes, and with
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Speaker 1: the Scream franchise, you actually see the evolution. Now. Granted
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Speaker 1: that being said, those sequels are not very good so
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Speaker 1: or at least in my opinion, they are not very good.
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Speaker 1: They're less effective for me and less entertaining. That's that's
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Speaker 1: my own opinion, though other people might love them, and
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Speaker 1: that's totally legit. Scream had a very specific that was
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Speaker 1: unique at the time, and the more you do it,
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Speaker 1: the less you can do it. So right, and it
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Speaker 1: does potentially give you the ability to revisit meta commentary
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Speaker 1: in a new way. But as I said, like this
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Speaker 1: trailer didn't give me the feeling that they were doing
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Speaker 1: very much meta commentary at all, and that's fine. Like
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Speaker 1: I almost feel like if they had done that, it
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Speaker 1: would have been a mistake. I agree. But yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is a great way for us to segue. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: take a break and we're gonna have a quick conversation
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Speaker 1: about something that may or may not have to do
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Speaker 1: with Horror. And I don't want to tell you anything
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Speaker 1: else because I want to keep you in suspense. But
20:39
Speaker 1: we will be right back, Okay, I can't can you
20:56
Speaker 1: just can you tell us now, Jonathan, because like I can't,
20:59
Speaker 1: I can't take it. Sure, Ariel, I can tell you
21:02
Speaker 1: that you suggested we talk about whether or not suspense films,
21:08
Speaker 1: like suspense stories count as horror, and uh, you know
21:12
Speaker 1: my admission illusion. Yeah, well I wanted to also thought
21:16
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity to make you seem silly, and
21:18
Speaker 1: I know, ye know it was it was I was
21:21
Speaker 1: yes ending, Yes, that's true, you were yes ending, and
21:24
Speaker 1: then I was like deny INBROV scene over. Yeah, No,
21:29
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna talk about suspense and it's and
21:32
Speaker 1: it's and it's relationship to horror and whether something you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: whether suspense is a subcategory of horror. I would argue
21:39
Speaker 1: suspense is not necessarily a subcategory of horror, but suspense
21:44
Speaker 1: in horror can make horror way more effective for me.
21:50
Speaker 1: I you know, I I agree that suspense makes horror
21:55
Speaker 1: way more effective. I looked up the definition of horror
21:58
Speaker 1: and horror and it's an intense feeling of fear, shock,
22:03
Speaker 1: or disgust. So I feel like suspense is like that. First, Yeah,
22:10
Speaker 1: the fear, the fear, and maybe the shock shock, you
22:13
Speaker 1: know what's so here's the here's some interesting things. Like
22:16
Speaker 1: first of all, if you go way back to like
22:19
Speaker 1: the Boris Karloff days, he did not like the genre
22:24
Speaker 1: being described as horror. He liked the phrase terror pictures
22:28
Speaker 1: things that were meant to make you feel scared as
22:31
Speaker 1: opposed to horrified, because you can go the horror route
22:35
Speaker 1: and just do a massive gorefest, right, and there's nothing
22:39
Speaker 1: particularly artful about it. It can just be excessive and
22:43
Speaker 1: gratuitous and gory, and that counts as horror. It's it's horrorfying,
22:49
Speaker 1: but not necessarily scary in the way that you know,
22:52
Speaker 1: five days later you're still talking about it. Like I
22:55
Speaker 1: think about certain movies I saw that really stuck with
23:00
Speaker 1: me to the point where like months later I would
23:03
Speaker 1: be thinking about them. The first Blair Witch Project did
23:08
Speaker 1: that to me, And of course that was back before
23:11
Speaker 1: that had been overplayed and parodied and turned into a
23:14
Speaker 1: meme and all that kind of stuff. When I saw it,
23:17
Speaker 1: for all that, clover Field, that's a that was a
23:20
Speaker 1: pretty effective film. I'm trying to think the Changeling, which
23:25
Speaker 1: is a nineteen eighty film with George C. Scott. That
23:28
Speaker 1: one did it to me, and then I think about
23:32
Speaker 1: movies that are they have moments of suspense that are
23:36
Speaker 1: so intense that you're just aching for the release for
23:41
Speaker 1: that that moment where the suspense gets gets unleashed, and like,
23:46
Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino is fantastic at that. I think of Inglorious Bastards.
23:52
Speaker 1: There's a scene in the very beginning of that movie,
23:55
Speaker 1: and it's just a simple interrogation scene, and the the
24:01
Speaker 1: Christoph Waltz's character is not being particularly over the top threatening,
24:08
Speaker 1: but that makes it even worse. And the longer the
24:12
Speaker 1: scene goes on, the more you're like, I need, I
24:15
Speaker 1: need something to happen. I need this release because it's
24:19
Speaker 1: it's making my chest feel tight. And I wouldn't call
24:22
Speaker 1: Glorious Bastard it's a horror movie by any stretch of
24:25
Speaker 1: the imagination. But that sequence is terrifying, Like it hits
24:32
Speaker 1: me harder than a lot of horror movies do. So
24:36
Speaker 1: I agree that it's terrifying. I would say, at least
24:39
Speaker 1: the first time I watched a lot of Quentin Tarantino's movies,
24:42
Speaker 1: Kill Bill and Glorious Bastards and a couple others, I
24:45
Speaker 1: kind of thought they were on the border of horror.
24:48
Speaker 1: Because they were very scary and very bloody and gory,
24:51
Speaker 1: and like, the scariest movies to me are suspense movies.
24:55
Speaker 1: And maybe that's just because I get more invested in them,
25:00
Speaker 1: and I also watch more of them because they tend
25:03
Speaker 1: to have less score. It's the blood and the guts
25:06
Speaker 1: and things like that that usually makes me think it's horror,
25:09
Speaker 1: which I guess to borrow Boris Karlov's Karlov's chagrin. That's
25:16
Speaker 1: not what he wanted, you know, necessarily not. And my
25:22
Speaker 1: favorite movies in the genre tend to be more about
25:27
Speaker 1: suspense than they are about gore. Like I mentioned Halloween.
25:32
Speaker 1: Halloween has a little bit of gore in it, the
25:34
Speaker 1: first Halloween. The later entries have more and more in it,
25:38
Speaker 1: but the original Halloween is really more about suspense. So
25:42
Speaker 1: is Jaws. For that matter. Jaws is my favorite film
25:44
Speaker 1: of all time. Like, that's my favorite movie. It's it's
25:49
Speaker 1: it is horror, it's a monster movie, it's a it's
25:52
Speaker 1: a horror movie. But Jaws. The reason why Jaws is
25:55
Speaker 1: really scary is again that suspense, right, Like, you've got
25:59
Speaker 1: a little bit of gore in it, not a whole lot.
26:01
Speaker 1: Most of the most of the violence happens in a
26:04
Speaker 1: way that you don't really see what's going on, and
26:09
Speaker 1: in my mind, that makes it scarier because it leads
26:11
Speaker 1: it to the audience's imagination to fill in the gaps.
26:15
Speaker 1: Whereas there are other movies that are in the gory
26:18
Speaker 1: horror genre that I have an appreciation for, but I
26:20
Speaker 1: don't find them particularly scary. So to me, suspense is
26:25
Speaker 1: absolutely necessary to make a horror movie effective for me,
26:29
Speaker 1: apart from just like someone's having a grand old time
26:34
Speaker 1: making a gory movie. Like I think of James Gunn's Slither.
26:39
Speaker 1: I think that's a really fun horror movie. It is
26:42
Speaker 1: very gory. I don't think of it as being particularly
26:45
Speaker 1: suspenseful or scary. I have not watched Slither, so I
26:49
Speaker 1: would not be able to tell you it. I thought
26:54
Speaker 1: was going to be more horror, and it turned out
26:55
Speaker 1: to be more suspense for me because it scary, but
27:00
Speaker 1: it's it's very suspenseful. There's not a ton of core
27:04
Speaker 1: in it. There's some, not as much as I expected.
27:07
Speaker 1: What do you think about Hitchcock? Is he horror or suspense?
27:09
Speaker 1: I think I think Hitchcock is suspense that can go
27:14
Speaker 1: into horror, like Psycho, I would argue, is more of
27:17
Speaker 1: a horror movie than say, an action film. Like I
27:20
Speaker 1: think of suspense as being a subcategory that can belong
27:22
Speaker 1: to a couple of different major categories, So suspense, like
27:27
Speaker 1: you could have horror suspense, or you could have drama
27:30
Speaker 1: or action suspense. I think of Quentin Tarantino as more
27:33
Speaker 1: in the action suspense category and Hitchcock generally more in
27:38
Speaker 1: the horror suspense. I think it was Hitchcock who actually
27:41
Speaker 1: said the art of suspense is you set up something
27:45
Speaker 1: that the audience knows has to happen, and then you
27:48
Speaker 1: hold off from ever letting that happen for as long
27:51
Speaker 1: as possible, and preferably you don't have it happen at all.
27:55
Speaker 1: You have something else happen. You subvert the expectations of
27:58
Speaker 1: the audience to release the tension. But it's all about
28:03
Speaker 1: you set up something and the audience knows, the characters
28:07
Speaker 1: in the scene may or may not know, and you
28:09
Speaker 1: have that go as long as you can before you
28:12
Speaker 1: allow for a release. And when it's done, well, that
28:16
Speaker 1: is it is truly incredible, not necessarily enjoyable, but incredible.
28:23
Speaker 1: No no, you know. Along similar lines, if you look
28:27
Speaker 1: at the twilight Zone, I know that you've got series
28:30
Speaker 1: that are similar to it, that are very specifically horror.
28:32
Speaker 1: If you look at Creep Show, Yeah, or Tales from
28:36
Speaker 1: the Crypt, those things are very like they're modeled after
28:39
Speaker 1: twilight Zone. I believe they came out after and but
28:42
Speaker 1: they're specifically horror. But Twilight Zone was scary enough to
28:46
Speaker 1: me and upsetting enough to me and disturbing enough to
28:48
Speaker 1: me most times that I still considered it horror. I
28:51
Speaker 1: do like twilight Zone. But twilight Zone's interesting too because
28:55
Speaker 1: that I think of it very pulp e And you know,
28:59
Speaker 1: if you look at the old Hope magazines from like
29:01
Speaker 1: the forties, they spanned a couple of different genres. You
29:06
Speaker 1: had your horror, you had your adventure, you had your
29:08
Speaker 1: science fiction if you want. If you look at the
29:12
Speaker 1: original season of twilight Zone, there are entries in that
29:15
Speaker 1: that fall more into the science fiction category than horror.
29:19
Speaker 1: There there's actually a Western or two in that first season,
29:24
Speaker 1: so like there there are a couple that like the
29:27
Speaker 1: binding tissue in twilight Zone is usually that there's some
29:30
Speaker 1: sort of twist, there's some sort of thing where there's
29:37
Speaker 1: you know, characters believe one thing is going on, it
29:39
Speaker 1: turns out something else is going on, and usually it
29:42
Speaker 1: doesn't end well for whoever the main character is. So like,
29:48
Speaker 1: I would say, a lot of Twilight Zone fell into
29:50
Speaker 1: the horror category, but there were also ones that I
29:52
Speaker 1: would I would probably describe more as being like science
29:55
Speaker 1: fiction or even Western Like I said, so, yeah, I
29:59
Speaker 1: mean I think it just depends. Yeah. Another another show
30:04
Speaker 1: that comes to mind with that, but it's kind of
30:05
Speaker 1: the reverse of it, which is to me, which is
30:08
Speaker 1: Lovecraft Country, which we only got one season of, but
30:12
Speaker 1: that was specifically week to week different kinds of horror,
30:15
Speaker 1: so it was mainly horror, a little bit of science
30:17
Speaker 1: fiction or a little bit of pulp in there, but
30:20
Speaker 1: it was it was interesting to watch the various kinds
30:23
Speaker 1: of it. It kind of helped me. A lot of
30:26
Speaker 1: it was very suspenseful. I was on the edge of
30:29
Speaker 1: my seat quite a bit, and then a lot of
30:30
Speaker 1: it was just gory, but because it's Lovecraft, but it
30:35
Speaker 1: kind of really helped me determine what sorts of horror
30:39
Speaker 1: I like and realize that there are so many different
30:42
Speaker 1: subcategories because originally, when I thought, you know, I'm like,
30:45
Speaker 1: to me horror, suspense, because it's so scary and I'm
30:47
Speaker 1: involved in the story, and then I'm like, and then
30:50
Speaker 1: there's Gore, right, And that's a completely different category to me,
30:56
Speaker 1: so that it was very illuminating. I guess there's also
31:00
Speaker 1: there's also like the weird fiction subcategory of horror, right,
31:04
Speaker 1: Like this would be the kind of stuff that I
31:05
Speaker 1: would describe HP Lovecraft's work. I think falls into that category.
31:10
Speaker 1: This is the almost sort of the mythological elements that
31:15
Speaker 1: you can see in horror, where you get into those
31:19
Speaker 1: elements where something otherworldly is happening, potentially with powers that
31:23
Speaker 1: are far too great for us to comprehend. And there
31:27
Speaker 1: are whole subcategories of that as well, including some pretty
31:31
Speaker 1: decent movies that fall into that. So I like those
31:34
Speaker 1: because they're imaginative. Like I would even say the movie
31:39
Speaker 1: Mandy with Nicholas Cage kind of falls into that category.
31:42
Speaker 1: It has almost sort of this weird fiction element to it.
31:46
Speaker 1: It is also, by the way, intensely gory, So if
31:51
Speaker 1: Gore's not your thing, don't watch Mandy. But to me,
31:56
Speaker 1: Mandy kind of feels like if the Cohen Brothers decided
32:00
Speaker 1: they wanted to make a very intense horror movie, Mandy
32:06
Speaker 1: is the kind of movie they would make. It has
32:09
Speaker 1: some wild, outlandish, almost cartoonish characters. It's got an amazing
32:15
Speaker 1: performance from Nicolas Cage, which I don't say very frequently.
32:19
Speaker 1: You know, he gets a bomb rap a lot of times.
32:21
Speaker 1: Well he also he earns it sometimes. But I recommend
32:26
Speaker 1: that movie for people who don't mind the fact that
32:29
Speaker 1: there is definitely gornt it. I mean there's a chainsaw
32:32
Speaker 1: fight at one point, so it's pretty awesome. I will
32:37
Speaker 1: not watch Mandy, but that's not much of a loss
32:40
Speaker 1: because I didn't know it existed before. Right now, Oh wow,
32:44
Speaker 1: it's so good. It's so good. Well, you know, I've
32:49
Speaker 1: watched and I haven't watched Color out of Space with
32:51
Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage either, going back to Lovecraft and interesting things,
32:56
Speaker 1: but I've watched plenty of his stuff. I've watched A
33:00
Speaker 1: Vampire's Kiss and that was horrific enough for me. Whatever
33:03
Speaker 1: that movie is called, I'm a fall on par I.
33:07
Speaker 1: You know it's until I get you to watch Stranger Things.
33:10
Speaker 1: I've given up all hope of giving you watch Stranger Things.
33:13
Speaker 1: Oh did you stop of it? I thought you were
33:16
Speaker 1: I thought you were terrified and you'd refuse to watch it.
33:19
Speaker 1: I was terrified. I refused to watch it alone. And
33:23
Speaker 1: then over the pandemic, I was like, Tony, kids, you
33:26
Speaker 1: just please just give it another shot because I need to,
33:29
Speaker 1: like give it three episodes because I can't watch it alone.
33:32
Speaker 1: And he did, and then he was like fine, And
33:34
Speaker 1: by the end of the third he was like, he
33:36
Speaker 1: liked the second season the best. I think, yeah, which
33:39
Speaker 1: is interesting because I know some people who like third best,
33:42
Speaker 1: some people who like first best, depending on the progression.
33:46
Speaker 1: But he begrudgingly watches it. Now, then there's still some hope.
33:50
Speaker 1: Maybe one day I'll convince you to watch Mandy. I
33:54
Speaker 1: can sit next to you and tell you when the
33:56
Speaker 1: scary parts are coming up. Maybe that'll work. I have
34:00
Speaker 1: to watch Shining first. That's higher. Oh yes, Oh that's
34:03
Speaker 1: a Shining also great movie with some good suspense in
34:06
Speaker 1: it too. All right, well, we've been we've been rambling
34:10
Speaker 1: about this for far too long. We have to take
34:12
Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we will get to
34:15
Speaker 1: our mashup, which involves a beloved Halloween tradition for some
34:21
Speaker 1: though not necessarily for us, and some some fun little
34:26
Speaker 1: cartoony characters from from the past. But we'll get to
34:29
Speaker 1: that after this quick break. All right, welcome back. As
34:48
Speaker 1: Jonathan said a little bit grumbly, we're doing a mash
34:52
Speaker 1: up with something that a lot of people like, but
34:54
Speaker 1: neither Jonathan nor I watched it when it came out,
34:57
Speaker 1: which is focus focus, and so we don't quite have
34:59
Speaker 1: the nostalgic love for it like I have for The
35:02
Speaker 1: Great Pumpkin. Yeah. I even did a whole video where
35:05
Speaker 1: I talked about how I did not particularly care for
35:09
Speaker 1: that movie. So so so my thoughts on hocus Pocus
35:14
Speaker 1: are published on the internet. But what's the other one
35:17
Speaker 1: that we're mashing up? Powerpuff Girls? Ah? Yes, I was
35:22
Speaker 1: a fan of Powerpuff Girls when it first premiered. I
35:26
Speaker 1: but to be clear, I only ever watched that original series.
35:30
Speaker 1: I didn't watch either of the other two that came out.
35:33
Speaker 1: And of course we're still wondering whether or not we'll
35:36
Speaker 1: ever get that live action series that was teased for
35:40
Speaker 1: a while. They're saying they're in rewrites, that it hasn't
35:43
Speaker 1: gone completely away, so we'll have to see. So if
35:45
Speaker 1: you're not familiar with hocus Pocus or the Powerpuff Girls,
35:48
Speaker 1: we're going to give you a quick Rundown, and since
35:51
Speaker 1: Jonathan I'm sure has watched more Powerpuff Girls than I have,
35:54
Speaker 1: I will tell you about hocus Pocus, which is there
35:58
Speaker 1: are some witches and they gain their youth and their
36:02
Speaker 1: power by sucking the youth from children. And they do
36:05
Speaker 1: that back in the sixteen hundreds and they turn a
36:07
Speaker 1: kid into a cat, and then they're kind of reawoken
36:10
Speaker 1: in the early nineties by a brother and sister who
36:15
Speaker 1: moved to Salem from California. And it's just a bunch
36:19
Speaker 1: of Disney high jinks of these three witches chasing after
36:21
Speaker 1: these kids and trying to suck their youth to gain
36:26
Speaker 1: power and beauty and youth themselves. And it's actionly and
36:31
Speaker 1: it's cute, cy and it's you know, it's not very scary.
36:34
Speaker 1: It's a Disney movie. Doug Jones is the best part
36:37
Speaker 1: of it. He plays the head witch, who is played
36:39
Speaker 1: by Btt Midler, Winifred Sanderson's old lover who she got
36:43
Speaker 1: mad at and sowed his lip shuts and turned him
36:45
Speaker 1: into a zombie. And he's absolutely phenomenal. But Doug Jones
36:49
Speaker 1: is usually absolutely phenomenal, so I agree with that assessment. Yeah,
36:55
Speaker 1: the movie has like The thing that I always see
36:57
Speaker 1: posts on Facebook is there's a bit where Bette Midler
37:01
Speaker 1: as Winnifred sings I put a Spell on you, which
37:06
Speaker 1: I mean, of course she sings in the movie. If
37:08
Speaker 1: you've got Bette Midler and you don't have her sing,
37:10
Speaker 1: what are you even doing? Well? They also get Sarah
37:12
Speaker 1: Jessica Parker, who is also a great singer. That's true.
37:15
Speaker 1: She she played Hey, she also played a character called Winnifred.
37:19
Speaker 1: Yes once mattress. Yes she did so, but not not
37:23
Speaker 1: in hocus Pocus. She plays Sarah in hocus Pocus, and
37:26
Speaker 1: kathy Na Jenny is Mary in hocus Pocus, and she's
37:30
Speaker 1: She's actually in another iHeart podcast coming up, Thirteen Days
37:34
Speaker 1: of Halloween, which season two premiers on October nineteenth, and
37:38
Speaker 1: she is a primary character in that. So you should
37:41
Speaker 1: definitely check out that series when it goes life. If
37:44
Speaker 1: you listen, you should also check it out because Jonathan
37:47
Speaker 1: said it was Yeah, I was gonna, I was gonna
37:50
Speaker 1: I was gonna do that. But yeah, I'm in it too.
37:53
Speaker 1: So Poarwabuff Girls, Yeah, let's talk about that real quick.
37:55
Speaker 1: So Powabuff Girls, is this this adventure comedy card tune
38:00
Speaker 1: series that follows the adventures of Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup,
38:07
Speaker 1: three young girls who are created in a lab accident.
38:11
Speaker 1: Their creator, Professor Utonium, was trying to create three perfect
38:15
Speaker 1: little girls with sugar, spice and everything nice, but accidentally
38:19
Speaker 1: dropped chemical X into the mix and thus produced the
38:23
Speaker 1: Powerpuff Girls, who have superpowers. And they go around trying
38:27
Speaker 1: to do good while also getting into shenanigans and learning
38:32
Speaker 1: valuable lessons on the way. And it's a very cheeky,
38:36
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek kind of series and adorable. Though again,
38:41
Speaker 1: I've only watched the original run of Powerpuff Girls, not
38:45
Speaker 1: either of the other incarnations. So those are the two
38:49
Speaker 1: that we're mashing together. Ariel, who do you want to
38:51
Speaker 1: go first? I don't know who you want to go first. Well,
38:56
Speaker 1: there's only one way to decide this, Ariel, and we're
38:58
Speaker 1: doing it over a video link, which means there's going
39:00
Speaker 1: to be a bit of a lag, so we have
39:02
Speaker 1: to both promise. In fact, I say, we're gonna close
39:04
Speaker 1: our eyes, we're gonna do paper rock scissors, and then
39:07
Speaker 1: we'll report on who what each person did. Okay, quality
39:11
Speaker 1: listening folks, Yes, yeah, all right, So trust us. We're
39:13
Speaker 1: gonna we're really doing this for reels. Ready, Okay, close
39:17
Speaker 1: your eyes, one, two, three? Shoot? And she did paper,
39:23
Speaker 1: I died scissors. Oh you go first? Wait? Do you
39:27
Speaker 1: go first or last? I guess I'll get you know
39:31
Speaker 1: what we didn't decide the curses, the classic foible. All right,
39:36
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll go first. We'll take a quick break,
39:39
Speaker 1: and then you'll go second. Is that sound good? All right?
39:42
Speaker 1: Sounds good. Mine and I have no idea if this
39:45
Speaker 1: is going to be the same title as yours, but
39:47
Speaker 1: there's a good chance mine is called the power Puff Witches. Nope,
39:53
Speaker 1: not the same okay. Professor Utonium has a problem. His
40:00
Speaker 1: formula of sugar, spice and everything nice has failed to
40:03
Speaker 1: produce the perfect little girl, and he's fresh out of
40:06
Speaker 1: chemical X. As a result, he's left power puffless. Science
40:11
Speaker 1: having failed him, he naturally turns to the supernatural, and
40:14
Speaker 1: fortunately he happens to have this old grimoire sitting around
40:18
Speaker 1: and a black candle at the ready. He lights the
40:21
Speaker 1: black candle, and, having lived a rather chaste existence because
40:26
Speaker 1: he's had little luck in wooing either Miss Sarah Bellum
40:29
Speaker 1: or Miss Keen and Sedusa hasn't taken an interest in
40:33
Speaker 1: him yet a prophecy ends up being fulfilled, and that
40:36
Speaker 1: prophecy relates to a spell that was cast in haste
40:40
Speaker 1: several hundred years earlier, when three witches were attempting to
40:44
Speaker 1: escape capture. See we have this quick flashback to sixteen
40:48
Speaker 1: ninety three. Three witches capture a young girl. They cast
40:51
Speaker 1: a spell they're draining her of vitality, and the witch
40:55
Speaker 1: has become younger more powerful in the process. But then
40:57
Speaker 1: we see the townsfolk descend upon the witches and they
41:01
Speaker 1: capture them and sentence them to death and Winifred, the
41:04
Speaker 1: leader of the witches, thinks quickly and casts off one
41:08
Speaker 1: last spell that will allow the witches to return in
41:10
Speaker 1: the future. Cheating death wants a virgin lights the black candle,
41:14
Speaker 1: and as I've already mentioned, Professor Utonium has really only
41:19
Speaker 1: had time for science anyway. We flash forward to the
41:22
Speaker 1: present and Utonium lights the black candle. It fulfills the prophecy,
41:26
Speaker 1: and Utonium's mixture of sugar, spice and everything nice, combined
41:30
Speaker 1: with the spell cast centuries earlier, results in a flash
41:34
Speaker 1: and we get the power puff witches, Sarah, Mary, and Winifred.
41:38
Speaker 1: The three young witches. They're just tiny little girls, have
41:41
Speaker 1: no real memory of their previous lives, but they do
41:44
Speaker 1: retain their witchy powers. As a result, the trio become
41:48
Speaker 1: a sort of superpowered source of mayhem and the town
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Speaker 1: of Townsville, frequently causing the mayor of the town to
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Speaker 1: flip his lid in frustration. When pies suddenly animate at
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Speaker 1: the local bake sale. It's the power puff, which is
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Speaker 1: when all the brooms in town show up outside Eutonium's house.
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Speaker 1: It's the power puff, which is when the local pet
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Speaker 1: cemetery suddenly has a lot of vacancies. Well, it's the
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Speaker 1: power puff, which is But Utonium, the loving sap that
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Speaker 1: he is, remains protective of his adopted daughters. He does
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Speaker 1: his best to raise them right, even going so far
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Speaker 1: as to pretend he likes liver and onions in order
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Speaker 1: to get them to eat it. Winifred, for the record,
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Speaker 1: loves liver and onions. But our story really focuses on
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Speaker 1: the girl's first Halloween. As Townsville prepares for a big
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Speaker 1: Halloween party, Utonium is concerned his former lab assistant, Jojoe,
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Speaker 1: is the reason Utonium didn't have any chemical X see
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Speaker 1: Joejoe stole the chemical X and then broke the vial
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Speaker 1: by accident, and the resulting reaction produced Mojo Jojoe, a
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Speaker 1: mad scientist intelligent chimpanzee, and Mojo Jojo plans to turn
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Speaker 1: all of Townsville into mindless zombies at the big Halloween party.
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Speaker 1: The Powerpuff Witches, meanwhile, are cavorting in the cemetery when
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Speaker 1: Winnifred sees a particular gravestone that gives her pause as
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Speaker 1: if she's remembering something from a past life. The gravestone
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Speaker 1: reads Billie Butcherson, and she suddenly feels the impulse to
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Speaker 1: cast a spell resurrecting the poor fellow, and what emerges
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Speaker 1: is a zombified man with his mouth sown shut. The
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Speaker 1: Powerpuff Witches are delayed to have a new friend, and
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Speaker 1: so they cavort a muck in the cemetery amakamakamuk. Mojo
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Speaker 1: Jojo meanwhile sets up a perch high in the town
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Speaker 1: hall and preparation for the Halloween dance. He's installing a
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Speaker 1: mind controlled device in the sound system. After being exposed
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Speaker 1: to music for enough time, the residents will become mindless zombies.
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Speaker 1: Then they will rush out and buy Mojo JoJo's new single,
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Speaker 1: bad Guy Blues, and that'll give him the money he
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Speaker 1: needs to propel himself toward world domination. The girls, Zombie
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Speaker 1: and Tow head to the town Hall and there, just
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Speaker 1: as things start going as people really start to get
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Speaker 1: into the groove, and as Mojo Jojo sees his plan
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Speaker 1: beginning to work, the Powerpuff Witches jump up on stage
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Speaker 1: and they do this weird version of I Put a
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Speaker 1: Spell on You, and it's like super weird because they're
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Speaker 1: little girls, and really that song's all about enchanting someone
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Speaker 1: so that they're in love with you. But whatever's Mojo
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Speaker 1: watches all his plans seem to go sideways, with Winifred
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Speaker 1: actually taking over instead of Mojo. So Mojo jumps down
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Speaker 1: out of the rafters and what follows is a crazy
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Speaker 1: battle between Mojo Jojo, the Powerpuff Witches, and Billy Butcherson.
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Speaker 1: During the fight, Butcherson gets blasted with a ray of
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Speaker 1: weird energy from Mojo Jojo and he collapses lifeless again.
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Speaker 1: Mary and Sarah find themselves busy trying to take down
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Speaker 1: Mojo Jojo, while Winifred does her best to retrieve her grimoire,
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Speaker 1: which she believes contains the perfect spell to banish the
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Speaker 1: mad Chimp. Ultimately, we see Professor Utonium show up at
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Speaker 1: the town dance Grimoire in hand, and he chides the
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Speaker 1: witches on misbehaving and he points out that's how I
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Speaker 1: raised you, and with the power of science and magic,
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Speaker 1: he recites a spell that seems to reverse time, bringing
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Speaker 1: us back moments before the original experiment. The Powerpuff whiches
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Speaker 1: are gone, Mojo Jojo is gone. Things are back to normal,
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Speaker 1: but not totally normal. They seem a little different, as
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Speaker 1: if we haven't really gone back in time so much
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Speaker 1: as we shifted to a slightly different reality. Now. In
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Speaker 1: this reality, Utonium retrieves the chemical X before Jojo can
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Speaker 1: secretly steal it, and he puts the chemical X on
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Speaker 1: a very high shelf, and then we see the experiment
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Speaker 1: play out again, with chemical X accidentally falling into the
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Speaker 1: mix and creating bubbles Blossom and Buttercup and Mojo Jojo,
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Speaker 1: and the timeline has been restored. But as we conclude,
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Speaker 1: the camera pans back across the cemetery and we stop
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Speaker 1: at a grave, and we've seen this grave before, and
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Speaker 1: we actually see the ground moving a bit, and as
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Speaker 1: the camera pans back, we reveal that what had been
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Speaker 1: Billy Butcherson's grave now has a different tombstone and it
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Speaker 1: just reads him. Suddenly, a lobster claw breaks through the
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Speaker 1: ground and we go to blackout credits the end. I
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Speaker 1: really liked that, Jonathan. Our mashups could almost be companions,
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Speaker 1: but they are well. I look forward to hearing this companion,
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Speaker 1: but not really peace after we come back from this
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Speaker 1: last break. All right, we're back, and my mash up
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Speaker 1: is called hocus Pocus, Sugar and Spice, So here we go.
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Speaker 1: The year was nineteen ninety eight, Five years since the
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Speaker 1: fateful day a young boy and his younger sister defeated
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Speaker 1: and killed the evil tree of the Sanderson sisters. Five
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Speaker 1: years since the boy and his sister took the witches
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Speaker 1: for dead and let the traumatic events fade into a
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Speaker 1: distant memory. Five years since the three witchy sisters let
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Speaker 1: their consciousnesses fade into oblivion. It was nineteen ninety eight,
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Speaker 1: five years to the day when the Sanderson sisters were
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Speaker 1: summoned once more through their grimoire. This time, they thought
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Speaker 1: by the devil himself, a large clawed red bloke with
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Speaker 1: a pointy black beard. It's him, shouted Mary Sanderson and
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Speaker 1: she started to bow the others to other two followed suit.
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Speaker 1: Who's not going to bow to the devil himself? Him
47:31
Speaker 1: was confused how the three knew who he was, and
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Speaker 1: surprised that his plan was going to be so easy.
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Speaker 1: Oh his plan, you ask, yeah, Well, as he described
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Speaker 1: it to the Sanderson sisters, he knew about their plights.
47:42
Speaker 1: You see, one of him's hobbies was recent Salem, Massachusetts history.
47:47
Speaker 1: He knew the witches needed children's youth to run amuck,
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Speaker 1: and he had three young girls he wanted to get
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Speaker 1: rid of. Winifred stepped up and respectfully declined, stating that
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Speaker 1: getting killed by kids wants maybe twice, she didn't know
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Speaker 1: so long ago was plenty enough, Their youth wasn't worth it,
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Speaker 1: and it was too fleeting anyhow, they'd rather be sent
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Speaker 1: back to oblivion. But that's when him explained to these
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Speaker 1: sisters that they weren't just any girls. They were supergirls.
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Speaker 1: Well not supergirls because they weren't supergirl, but they were
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Speaker 1: super Okay, they had superpowers. They were the powerpuff Girls.
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Speaker 1: The witches could drain their youth and then would stay
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Speaker 1: young forever and also gain superpowers themselves and be undefeatable.
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Speaker 1: The promise of such power was too much for the
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Speaker 1: sisters to decline, and so they agreed to make the
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Speaker 1: puff Girls and next victims. The Sanderson sisters hopped upon
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Speaker 1: their brooms and other devices and hastened to find Bubble's
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Speaker 1: Buttercup and Blossom. They did find them pretty quickly. You see.
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Speaker 1: The three were fighting Aberca Zombie, and the battle was
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Speaker 1: making such a raucous that the people for miles around
48:50
Speaker 1: could hear it. Winifred saw Aberca Zombie and he reminded
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Speaker 1: her of her ex So it was love at first sight.
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Speaker 1: Great thought, Winnifred, I'll get my youth and a new flame.
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Speaker 1: Everything is going my way. But that thought didn't last,
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Speaker 1: as moments later Aberka Zombie was blasted into space by
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Speaker 1: the children. Whenifred charged into battle and her sisters followed
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Speaker 1: a little confused, usually they had a bit more tacked
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Speaker 1: to their plans, but they were in it now. It
49:13
Speaker 1: was a crazy battle of brooms and vacuums and fireballs
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Speaker 1: and ice breath. Blossom, Shaddy, don't you know you can
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Speaker 1: never beat us? And the three girls blast to the
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Speaker 1: three old witches into space as well. No one knows
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Speaker 1: what happened to the Sanderson sisters or Aberka Zombie. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they're on a distant planet plotting their return. Maybe they're
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Speaker 1: waiting to be summoned in another five years by whomever
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Speaker 1: finds the Grimoire next. Stay tuned for another daring adventure.
49:41
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. That was fun. You know, I'm
49:46
Speaker 1: not gonna say that either of our mashups are more
49:50
Speaker 1: fun than the original hocus Pocus. I'll just say I
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Speaker 1: enjoyed them more. It was certainly more exhilarating to write
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Speaker 1: than to watch it. Yeah, to be fair, again, as
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Speaker 1: Ariel said earlier, neither she nor I saw this movie
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Speaker 1: when we were like kids, which is most of the
50:13
Speaker 1: people I know who have a deep love for this film,
50:16
Speaker 1: that's when they saw it, right, They saw it as
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Speaker 1: a child, and so they have this attachment to a
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Speaker 1: movie that they loved as a kid. And I get that, Like,
50:26
Speaker 1: there are movies that I loved as a kid that
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Speaker 1: I still enjoy as an adult, where at least on
50:30
Speaker 1: some level, I look at and I think, you know,
50:32
Speaker 1: this isn't really that good, But because I have that
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Speaker 1: nostalgic attachment to it, I still love it. So I
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Speaker 1: get it. And I'm not even saying that hocus Pocus
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Speaker 1: isn't good. It just didn't click with me. I think
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Speaker 1: part of the problem also was just that, after just
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Speaker 1: seeing endless posts referencing Hocus Focus, I thought it was
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Speaker 1: going to be some like truly incredible piece of children,
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Speaker 1: you know, entertainment, and it's just it's just okay, it's
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Speaker 1: not bad. It's just okay. I agree, I was. I
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Speaker 1: was about to say I don't have quite the same
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Speaker 1: hate for hocus Pocus as you do, but het it
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Speaker 1: is not the right word. Uh, it's it's a good movie.
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Speaker 1: It just was oversold to someone who didn't watch it
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Speaker 1: until they were maybe too old to really relate to
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Speaker 1: the main heroes of the story. I get it. Like
51:24
Speaker 1: if I were to have a conversation with someone about
51:28
Speaker 1: the movie Big Trouble in Little China and they had
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Speaker 1: never seen it, and I gushed about how much I
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Speaker 1: loved it, and then I showed it to them, I
51:36
Speaker 1: suspect they would have a very similar reaction to that movie,
51:39
Speaker 1: which I maintain is still a very entertaining film. But again,
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Speaker 1: like if I saw it for the first time now,
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Speaker 1: I might not think it's as great as I as
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Speaker 1: I actually do, because you know, I saw it when
51:51
Speaker 1: I was much younger, so yeah, you know it's it's
51:54
Speaker 1: one of those things. And we're gonna wrap this episode up.
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Speaker 1: If you have any suggestions for things we should mash
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52:43
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52:48
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52:52
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