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The DIRTY SECRETS of Old School NHL Fighting | Bare Knuckle Nation Ep. 9 · Bare Knuckle Nation Podcast

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  This is Bare Knuckle Nation. Let's go.
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  This episode of Bare Knuckle Nation
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  brought to you by our good friend Angie
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  at Spas and More and putting the
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  oh in spa.
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  >> [music]
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  >> Welcome back to Bare Knuckle Nation.
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  Let's go. Cam Jansen, Reed Low, Jamie
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  Rivers. Billy Sawhorse, Tony Twist, and
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  of course Jimmy Soupy Campbell. Hey,
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  check out bare-knuckle nation. Actually,
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  I screwed that back. What is it?
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  bareknuckle-nation.com.
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  I don't give a damn. We're not even
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  going to edit that out. Who cares? Let's
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  go.
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  We bring the heat.
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  >> Okay.
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  >> Woo!
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  >> Hang on.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> On the heels of that, it actually sets
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  it up [ __ ] beautifully. On the heels
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  of that,
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> maybe
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  to heat have Low Z try and correct Cam
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  is unreal. Last Last night, I needed the
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  FBI to [ __ ] decode the text message
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  that came in from Low
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  >> it makes all the sense in the world. No,
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  it doesn't. You just got to read between
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  the lines,
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> the audio READ BETWEEN THE LINES.
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  >> IT TOOK IT TOOK my buddy at the FBI 3
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  hours to figure out what the full text
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  was.
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  >> And then I even then I came back in
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  voice recorder and you still were dead
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  No, it wasn't worse. Few voice recorder
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  texts
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  >> I'll do texts
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  >> text to talk. Yeah. Text to talk. Siri
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  does not respect my Canadian accent.
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  >> like you.
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  >> She does not
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  respect me at all.
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  >> Is it I was more confused by the end of
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  the text than before I even read it.
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  >> Yeah, me too.
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  Siri's been listening to you for a
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  while.
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  >> Thank you. Mission accomplished.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> Mission accomplished. You text with the
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  whole fist?
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  >> WHAT'S GOING ON, BABY?
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  >> Halloween [laughter] around the corner.
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  >> People don't go to your house for
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  Halloween, do they, Twist?
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  >> No, it's That would be kind of like
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  going
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  >> have.
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  >> Well, and never they never came back. I
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  mean, there's a mile down the driveway.
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  There's no no lights. It's probably not
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  the spot you're going to find the kids
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  Halloween.
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  >> I can't imagine rolling up to your house
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  because you have beautiful house by the
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  way. I love your your property, your
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  land, everything's great. But it is out
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  there. And the driveway is I don't know
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  how 100 yards long
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  >> 300
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  >> 300 yards long Imagine walking down that
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  driveway in the pitch black
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  >> Oh man.
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  >> as you see a yeti in the woods, a
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  dinosaur
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  >> Yes. Yes. [laughter]
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  >> For maybe a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
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  >> What?
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  >> And the the mini size, too, you know.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> And you go in your garage
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  >> He's a big candy bar guy.
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  >> BUT HE LOOKS FRIENDLY. He looks
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  friendly. No, we're good.
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  >> No. No.
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  >> He's got chainsaw
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  >> him on his bike. You don't want to mess
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  with that. Stay away.
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  >> Oh boy.
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  >> What's that?
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  >> I wanted you to try this on cuz I
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  thought this would be a good good good
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  Halloween
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  costume piece for you that
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  Just slide that dude you
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  >> So [laughter] we
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  I I see it. I see a resemblance.
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  >> 99
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  >> Oh my god, YOU LOOK BETTER.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> OH MY GOD, YOU LOOK BETTER.
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  >> IS THAT NOT PERFECT?
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  >> OH, THAT'S CREEPY.
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  >> NOW, I've got one Hey. [laughter]
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  >> DUDE, YOU LOOK SCARY.
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  >> THING. YOU WANT TO TRY IT ON? ONE MORE
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  THING?
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  >> YEAH.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> What What is it, Soupy?
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  >> Deez nuts.
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  >> Oh, fit perfectly ON THOSE CHIN.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> DUDE, YOU LOOK CRAZY.
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  >> IT WOULD FIT RIGHT ON THE CHIN.
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  >> WHOA. Big time.
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  >> I think that's the Halloween outfit for
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  you right there.
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  >> I guess this is the Halloween episode.
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  >> Hey, we were doing like the quick hit
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  the bigger bigger hole you get to drink.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> Jamie uh
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  Jamie and uh Soupy and I were were here
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  before and we were doing a quick hit.
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  We're doing that We're going to be doing
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  that every week, too, before the
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  podcast. Just kind of keep you updated
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  on, you know, what's going on around the
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  NHL and the Blues and stuff like that.
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  We're just wrapping up and all of a
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  sudden Twister rolls in here with that
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  damn wig on. And I look at him I go
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  What What the [ __ ] is this thing? Is he
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  coming to get us?
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  >> Who didn't pay their vig?
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  >> I didn't pay my vig.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> I'm like, what is this thing?
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  >> Somebody didn't pay their
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  >> You look kind of cool now. You scared me
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  off the the but you look cool, baby.
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  >> And he's just coming in from behind me
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  cuz I'm like turned around.
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  >> You felt his presence.
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  >> No, and and Cab's like
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  thanks for the heads-up. Like, what if
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  WE DID HAVE SOMEBODY
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  >> KILLED YOU.
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  >> IT WAS EITHER a hit or killed you right
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  out of the
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  >> It was either a hit
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  >> We would have jumped on that guy.
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  >> I WOULD HAVE JUMPED UP.
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  >> IT WAS PROCESSING IN MY HEAD.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> WHAT THE HELL is this thing?
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  Oh, what's going on, guys? What's the
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  good word?
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  >> There was a ton of good words out there.
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  >> on?
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  >> Got a question for you guys. In this day
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  and age,
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  I feel like the old the old the the the
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  the sports athlete in general and being
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  respectful, being a gentleman. We all
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  performed on the ice at a level that was
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  pretty intense and that was It's not how
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  you act on the street, but I'm seeing
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  more and more of the
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  of and and not just the sports athletes,
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  you know, men in general, just not
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  treating women the properly the way they
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  should.
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  And and the question I I beg the
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  question is is why? I mean, we we we
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  were on the ice doing the
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  I mean, violence was part of the game,
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  but when we step off the ice, there was
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  none of that. I mean, that was few and
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  far between. It wasn't something that
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  was practiced. It was definitely not
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  condoned or endorsed and we pleased
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  ourselves a very closely and that as a
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  as an entire league, but
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  I feel like you know, we got to
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  reintroduce and how to act, you know?
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  Do you guys open the door for your girls
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  when you when you when you you go to a
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  car, do you you open the door?
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  >> So, we have a rule because life is busy
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  sometimes I have a rule, rather. Life is
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  busy, so when you run around you got the
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  kids, you got this, you got all sorts of
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  It's not always easy to run up, for your
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  woman, but I I do mandate and Ashley
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  knows it. Like, on a date night where we
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  know we're going for dinner or we're
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  going out to an event or whatever, like
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  on those nights specifically open the
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  door for her, make sure her dress isn't
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  where close the door, like bring out the
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  gentleman's like cuz it's supposed to be
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  a special night. We're doing something
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  together, a date, you know? It's not
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  just like dragging the kids to hockey or
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  dragging the kids like sometimes that
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  gets really like busy and it's tough to
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  be like, "Oh, here you go, honey." It's
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  not that I don't want to do it. It's
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  just sometimes she's already getting in
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  the car. I'm like, "Okay, she's already
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  in there."
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> She's ready to go. But on date nights or
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  special events or a party or something
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  that we're doing that is unique apart
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  from just being parents, then I try to
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  make sure that we get the door
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  everywhere we go. And I I'll even give
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  her [ __ ] Like if she opens your door,
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  I'll be
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  >> That's the two of us.
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  >> night. No, no, no, no. I'll come around.
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  >> Daddy's got you.
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  >> DADDY.
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  >> THAT'S LATER.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> BUT YEAH, I TRY. I MEAN, I think there's
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  something to it. I think there's value
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  in that. And I think your kids, too,
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  they're observing all the time. And if
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  you're just not that way, why would my
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  boys or Ashley's boys who are around all
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  the time,
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  why would they emulate something that or
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  why would they not emulate my behavior
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  if I'm not doing it? What would their
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  inspiration be? Where are they learning
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  from?
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  >> They learn about it through osmosis, the
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  small things that you do.
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  >> Please don't even say that. Please
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  don't.
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  >> Don't even virtue signal and act like
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  you open the door for
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  >> Well, I do. I consider myself a
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  gentleman. I am a gentleman. It's easy
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  to be a gentleman. Do the little things.
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  >> Open the door to the gas station for
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  people? You're damn right.
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  >> Yeah. I'm not like when we walk past
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  night nights, I might open the door for
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  her.
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  >> What's your take on if you hold the door
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  for somebody open the door for somebody
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  and they just breeze through and don't
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  say thank you?
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  >> I'm like, "Eh."
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  >> I just
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  >> Move on.
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  >> You're good. You're moving on.
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  >> I I get a little pissed sometimes.
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  >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I might
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  burn a little inside.
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  >> I think that because it's it's to me
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  it's I was brought up and you say
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  please, you say thank you. You say no,
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  thank you. You know, like it's just like
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  >> I won't say anything, but I'll I would
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  ask you this question.
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  >> For you opening the door for you or for
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  her?
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  >> For a stranger.
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  >> Okay. But in your head?
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  >> I In my head, I'm opening
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  >> In your
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  >> I'm opening the door for them. For them.
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  >> For them.
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  >> So,
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  >> Because
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  >> I see it the other way because I've been
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  trying to be the gentleman. I'll open
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  the door. I'm doing it for me, not for
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  that person.
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  All right. If they choose to say thank
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  you, that's that's up to them. But
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  here's the other part.
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  If you're if you're if you're driving by
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  and you have somebody who who's out on
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  the street, they got a sign, you know,
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  donate. All right. If you do, all right,
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  are you doing it for them or for you?
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  >> Both, in my opinion.
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  >> Both?
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  >> I I I think about yourself.
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  >> No, I'm just asking. Do you
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  do it for yourself or do you do it for
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  them?
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  >> I I'm on a different level because it's
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  not about them or me. It's about getting
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  it right. And the right thing for me to
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  do is open the door and I don't need a
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  thank you for that because my moral
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  state says this is what I should do.
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  It's no different. I probably don't open
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  the door for Tracy as much as I should.
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  A car door? Like walking around just
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  again because we're going typically I'm
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  a couple minutes late, right?
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  >> Always always late.
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  20 minutes
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  >> Waiting on you? Oh, man.
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  >> No, it's not like that. That's the
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  problem. Lozi can't figure out how to
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  open the door.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> Listen, no.
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  We're both like we got to plan this
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  thing 15 minutes ahead of time so that
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  we so that we can be 15 minutes late,
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  right? But I think it's I think it comes
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  down to something more for me when I
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  look on how I am. When when I'm walking
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  down the street always on the outside of
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  the street. She's always on the inside
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  of the street. Like that's a protective
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  thing. And as much as I maybe got some
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  of that from my dad, my mom taught me
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  that. My mom would walk up to a door and
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  she would stand and wait there until I
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  came and opened it for and I'll be like,
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  oh, okay, yeah, that's right, right? And
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  she never told me what to do.
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  >> Always.
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  >> I'm just saying.
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  >> But if she didn't, I would still open
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  the door for her, right? But that polite
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  side of the side is yeah, that's what
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  he's talking about is have the respect
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  of always like we need to find a way to
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  get along better in this world.
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  >> And that and that routine of taking the
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  outside of the of the street, that just
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  becomes innate and you don't even
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  realize that you're hurting the cattle.
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  Um Jamie I was
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> Jamie was like, what are you doing? And
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  I it just comes oh, outside of the
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  street and I just realized oh, I can't
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  walk over here. I'm going to tire of the
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  sheep dog push me over side. That's you
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  know, that's that's an important that's
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  because it's ingrained.
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  >> Yeah.
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  >> Well, when you donate and you're helping
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  somebody on the street, are you doing it
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  for them or you doing it for yourself? I
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  see it this way.
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  I'm doing it 100% for myself cuz it
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  makes me feel good. Now, what you choose
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  to do with that money is completely up
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  to you. If you if you want to buy booze,
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  food, drugs, it doesn't matter. It makes
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  it it it makes me feel good and the
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  choice is now put on that person or or
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  whatever they choose to do with it. So
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  really it's a selfish it's a selfish
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  donation
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  for the right reasons.
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  >> Yeah, I would say that at the same time
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  so that's your opinion and that's cool.
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  You feel that way.
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  I agree with what you're saying, but I
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  also
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  I don't just give money all the time to
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  anybody. So, it's not like I just want
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  to feel good about me. This is my own
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  opinion, my take on it is when I do give
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  money it's because I'm meeting it in the
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  middle. Meaning like I'm doing it for
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  myself, but I'm also actively looking at
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  the situation and then in my head I
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  truly believe I'm doing it for them too.
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  I don't know what they're going to do
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  with the money. Like you said, who knows
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  if they're going to feed their kids,
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  feed their dog, take drugs,
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  whatever. We don't know that, right? We
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  don't.
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  We we can assume, but we don't know.
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  Whatever. I'm just saying.
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  For me it's like a meet-in-the-middle
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  thing. Like I'm doing it for me, but
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  when I choose to donate to somebody who
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  I actually stop and take the time to,
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  I'm actively wanting to help them, too.
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  >> But they want
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  This is what I give them. I give them a
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  protein stick. 20 g of protein, baby.
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  [laughter] What's up?
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  I ain't got no money. You're hungry.
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  There you go. [laughter]
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  That's what I'm giving you. First form.
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  I'll tell you that right now. You know
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  what would be fun we should do someday?
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  We should go to Jimmy John's. throw it
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  out the window like this. Like there you
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  go. We should go to Jimmy John's and get
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  some subs, put
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  the mayo and everything on the inside,
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  bag of chips, and get like 20 of them,
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  drive around to all the spots where the
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  the sign flat and I threw a tunic at
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  him.
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  Jimmy John's.
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  >> Boys, can I make a suggestion? If you're
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  out on the road all the time, winter
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  time's coming. You got a bunch of
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  clothes, jackets, shirts, you name it. I
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  mean so many of them.
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  And I in the in in the windshield
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  business we're all over the place and
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  see a lot of people out on the corners.
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  I hand clothes out. Clothes that instead
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  of donating it
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  >> Yep.
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  >> hand the clothes out. Because I tell you
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  what, that is way more valuable than
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  anything. Passing I don't
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  >> I agree.
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  >> They don't care what size the jacket is
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  cuz they'll trade that person will trade
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  for so somebody else who wants to
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  sleeping make a blanket.
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  How many clothes do you have in your
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  vehicle and in your house that you the
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  stuff in your vehicle and you know
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  you're going out and just at the corner
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  hand it out.
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  >> The guy I ran out has a closet full of
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  jackets.
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  >> You are going to so much clothes.
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  That's you're going to the source. Why
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  have a third-party filter it?
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  >> I just cleaned out that guy ran closet.
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  There's like 10 jackets. I'm going to
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  bring that and do that follow your lead.
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  >> Hey, some of these panhandlers are
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  making good coin, just so you know.
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  >> You notice he just decided to open your
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  your
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  >> DUDE, THAT'S FOR THE HOMELESS GUY.
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  >> IT WITH HIM. EAT HALF of it and then
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  just throw it.
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  >> [laughter]
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  >> See, YOU GOT TO TRIP ME. YOU GOT TO EAT
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  HALF OF IT THEN hand it out.
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  >> You have a beef stick sitting on the
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  table for very long without putting IT
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  IN HIS
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  >> OR WATER. I'll throw a water out, too.
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  >> Smell it. Don't you smell it, Lozi?
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  >> 50% of everything goes to soup.
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  >> [laughter]
• 12:51
  >> This is true.
• 12:52
  >> You're going to hand kick half of one.
• 12:53
  >> No, he's going to eat baby birds out.
• 12:55
  >> That's hilarious.
• 12:56
  >> [laughter]
• 12:58
  >> I'm going to spit it out.
• 13:00
  >> Oh man. Oh man. Yeah, I get You know
• 13:02
  what? So I'll be honest, too. Like
• 13:04
  sometimes I'm nicer to
• 13:07
  people that I see daily than I than I am
• 13:10
  to Kate with stuff. Meaning No, no, no.
• 13:13
  I'm At least I'm being honest.
• 13:15
  No, no. Like Like I get performative.
• 13:16
  Like you got to be cool to everybody.
• 13:17
  Like I'm nice and boom. I'm
• 13:19
  And then I got to give Kate more
• 13:20
  attention. You know what I mean? Like I
• 13:22
  should donate that to Kate more than
• 13:24
  anybody else. She's number one. It's you
• 13:27
  know.
• 13:27
  >> That's because it's ingrained in you.
• 13:29
  That's where I'm going.
• 13:30
  >> I'm You guys can trip me all you want.
• 13:31
  I'm just I'm being honest. I'm being
• 13:32
  honest.
• 13:32
  >> It's
• 13:33
  It's ingrained in you.
• 13:34
  >> I need to do more for her.
• 13:36
  >> And we we can all identify to that
• 13:38
  because
• 13:39
  because of what we've had to do post
• 13:41
  career. We can't just lurk in the
• 13:43
  shadows and have our millions of
• 13:44
  dollars, you know, whatever. Like we've
• 13:46
  all had to be out there in the public.
• 13:49
  It big We You and I, Twister, we used to
• 13:51
  work together. You turn the dial up to
• 13:53
  10 some days. There were people are
• 13:54
  expecting Tony Twister and Jamie Lissow
• 13:56
  come kicking through the door and you
• 13:58
  know, act in a certain way. Some days
• 14:00
  you don't feel like it. You're
• 14:01
  exhausted. And you're right, Kim.
• 14:03
  Because then what happens is you're
• 14:04
  pulling from an energy bank.
• 14:07
  And you don't have any more energy left.
• 14:08
  And you go back to your wife or your
• 14:10
  girlfriend and your kid. And that
• 14:11
  energy's already been used up for other
• 14:13
  situations. And then you're exhausted.
• 14:15
  And it ain't fair. It ain't fair. And
• 14:17
  you know, I've had to really do a a much
• 14:19
  better job of coming home and trying to
• 14:22
  put as much energy into my now wife and
• 14:25
  kids that I do for all the other things.
• 14:29
  >> Radio, this, that, everything.
• 14:31
  >> TV, radio, public appearances, whatever
• 14:32
  it is.
• 14:33
  >> flip though.
• 14:34
  >> I mean it's good karma. You be good.
• 14:36
  It's the golden rule, the golden rule,
• 14:36
  the golden rule. Be good to others.
• 14:37
  Treat people how you want to be treated.
• 14:38
  Yeah. I don't know how people are
• 14:39
  [ __ ] Sometimes. I really I think it
• 14:41
  >> I don't know how people are [ __ ]
• 14:43
  Sometimes. I really I think it takes a
• 14:44
  lot more effort to be a [ __ ] [ __ ]
• 14:46
  than it does to be a good person.
• 14:48
  >> It's actually a fact that it takes more
• 14:50
  muscles in the face the face to frown
• 14:52
  than it does smile.
• 14:54
  >> Truth.
• 14:54
  >> Oh my god.
• 14:55
  >> You [laughter] want to get rid of a You
• 14:56
  want to get rid of a headache?
• 14:57
  >> I got that, man.
• 14:58
  >> I love it.
• 14:59
  >> I got some big
• 15:00
  >> I got some powerful cheeks.
• 15:02
  >> Analytics just made its way into the
• 15:04
  club.
• 15:05
  >> A man who's never had a headache except
• 15:07
  when he had his jaw wired shut.
• 15:09
  >> BECAUSE HE COULDN'T SMILE.
• 15:11
  >> [laughter]
• 15:11
  >> That's what it was.
• 15:13
  >> But no, I'm serious. Like think about
• 15:14
  it. If you like you actively leave that
• 15:16
  leave the house one day. And we've all
• 15:17
  been in a bad mood and you're like
• 15:19
  it's like
• 15:20
  if Cam's talking to me and I'm it's way
• 15:22
  harder for me to be like like [ __ ] at
• 15:24
  him than it is to be like you know, it's
• 15:26
  cool. Good job. You're like it's just
• 15:28
  it's weird. So I try. I'm not always the
• 15:30
  best guy, trust me. Not the nicest guy
• 15:32
  always, but I try to meet people with
• 15:35
  kindness. And if they choose to be
• 15:37
  [ __ ] I keep the feet moving. I'm
• 15:39
  like okay, hey, have a great day. And
• 15:40
  I'm like [ __ ] off. I don't care. I'm
• 15:41
  gone.
• 15:41
  >> What if they bring up Babcock?
• 15:43
  >> I GET MAD.
• 15:44
  >> [laughter]
• 15:45
  >> NO, I DON'T GET MAD IF PEOPLE JUST
• 15:47
  RANDOMLY BRING him up.
• 15:48
  >> No, if they try and talk about how great
• 15:50
  he is.
• 15:51
  >> [laughter]
• 15:51
  >> He's the best.
• 15:52
  >> He's the best coach IN THE NHL.
• 15:54
  >> PEOPLE who have never played for him
• 15:56
  >> Reenactment.
• 15:59
  >> I have strong opinions. Very strong
• 16:01
  opinions.
• 16:01
  >> If it's not accurate, then I got to reel
• 16:03
  it in quickly. [laughter]
• 16:05
  I got a little mad.
• 16:06
  >> How's How's he doing so far?
• 16:08
  >> Doing pretty good.
• 16:08
  >> Oh, he's lost his mind.
• 16:12
  >> [laughter]
• 16:13
  >> You see but in two weeks when maybe this
• 16:15
  comes out, we'll see how it all goes.
• 16:16
  So, as of right now, we're good. You
• 16:18
  like that, BABY? WHAT'S
• 16:20
  WHAT'S UP? Let's go. Let's go. All you
• 16:22
  got to do is go to bareknuckledash.com.
• 16:24
  >> You decided to go on your own direction.
• 16:27
  >> Well, no, this is my sponsorship
• 16:28
  sponsorship for this week, the Westboro
• 16:30
  Rangers.
• 16:31
  It's the town I'm from, Massachusetts.
• 16:34
  >> baby.
• 16:34
  >> I've done some damage there.
• 16:35
  >> John Gruden. People are going to start
• 16:37
  sending boxes to Soupy.
• 16:39
  >> [laughter]
• 16:39
  >> That's I like that.
• 16:40
  >> Unboxing.
• 16:41
  >> That's fun. I would I would love to sit
• 16:43
  and watch you open a box.
• 16:45
  >> MEDIA JUST
• 16:46
  SEND PRESENTS.
• 16:48
  >> [laughter]
• 16:48
  >> SEND PRESENTS. WE'LL PUT THE ADDRESS
• 16:50
  Put the address on the screen.
• 16:52
  >> You put this [laughter] address.
• 16:53
  >> Hey, Cam.
• 16:54
  Cam.
• 16:55
  >> Yeah, yeah.
• 16:55
  >> I used to You have to use the little
• 16:57
  boys' room. Can you like You guys want
• 16:58
  to talk without me or you want to take
• 17:00
  the camera in there?
• 17:01
  >> Take a break. Take a break.
• 17:02
  >> You guys want to take the camera in
• 17:03
  there?
• 17:04
  >> No.
• 17:05
  No, no, okay.
• 17:06
  >> Are we going to continue on? Are we
• 17:08
  pausing or we continuing on?
• 17:09
  >> Pause, yeah.
• 17:10
  >> Pause.
• 17:11
  >> Hey, Cam Jansen here. Check out my
• 17:13
  barbecue sauce right there. This is a
• 17:15
  fire bare knuckle barbecue. This is what
• 17:17
  we do. We hang in the alumni room. We
• 17:20
  party. We do our thing. We watch the
• 17:22
  blues and we eat damn good food, too,
• 17:24
  with good sauce right here. I'm telling
• 17:27
  you, it's spicy, but not too spicy. So,
• 17:29
  don't be a wimp. It's a fist of fire Cam
• 17:32
  Jansen style. Check this bad boy out
• 17:34
  right here.
• 17:36
  Mmm, damn good.
• 17:38
  >> Soupy, what do you got going on today,
• 17:40
  baby? What do you got?
• 17:41
  >> to the Westboro Rangers. So, my boys
• 17:43
  back in Westboro, Rob McCalla, Kevin
• 17:46
  McNamara, Chris Gallo, they got this
• 17:48
  hockey team, the high school hockey
• 17:50
  team, they're going to be state
• 17:50
  championships. Between Cashman, McCalla,
• 17:54
  and McNamara, they're going to win the
• 17:55
  state championships. [laughter]
• 17:56
  But, honestly, this McNamara kid shot a
• 17:59
  30 at our nine-hole course in Westboro.
• 18:01
  >> What do you think of that?
• 18:02
  >> Oh, they got their names down here. This
• 18:04
  is my most recent tracks here.
• 18:05
  >> Why are they on these sides?
• 18:07
  >> I am just really really
• 18:09
  close to these nuts.
• 18:09
  >> I'm questioning a lot of things right
• 18:10
  now.
• 18:11
  >> They're close to these nuts.
• 18:13
  >> [laughter]
• 18:14
  >> Lowzi wants his name there.
• 18:16
  >> Lowzi just got his name tattooed
• 18:17
  [laughter] on my back.
• 18:21
  >> So, what is that They're going to win
• 18:23
  the championship, you said?
• 18:24
  >> Allegedly they're going to win the state
• 18:25
  championship and
• 18:27
  they just keep going. Like I said, but
• 18:28
  the big thing was the nine-hole course,
• 18:30
  the new record. A 30.
• 18:32
  >> Oh, really?
• 18:33
  >> Yeah, Frank Gallo used to be like the
• 18:35
  legend of this course and then this
• 18:36
  little McNamara kid comes in and takes
• 18:38
  over and shoots a 30 in nine.
• 18:40
  >> like Soupy keeping score?
• 18:42
  >> No, no, these kids Oh, come on. Come on,
• 18:44
  Lozo.
• 18:45
  >> I just wondered if all the people in
• 18:47
  Westboro cheat like you do at golf.
• 18:49
  >> No, no, no. This is a legit 30 on nine.
• 18:51
  >> 30 on nine?
• 18:52
  >> Yeah, don't Don't smear the
• 18:55
  McNamara name like that. He
• 18:57
  >> They'll [laughter] be flying out here.
• 18:58
  >> I got I got a question, boys. Speaking
• 19:00
  of tattoos on either side of the leg.
• 19:02
  Now, uh
• 19:03
  >> Oh, boy.
• 19:03
  >> You guys You You wouldn't have been You
• 19:06
  Ribs are
• 19:08
  Neither of you guys None of you guys
• 19:09
  were in the in uh 1992
• 19:11
  >> Yeah.
• 19:12
  >> in in Quebec, uh the Nordiques,
• 19:15
  Montreal, huge rivalry. There was a gal
• 19:17
  that came out in the news and said that
• 19:19
  she had contracted the HIV virus and she
• 19:22
  was a pole dancer at the local uh strip
• 19:26
  club. And she had a tattoo of the
• 19:28
  Nordiques on one side of her thigh and
• 19:30
  the Montreal Canadiens on the other.
• 19:31
  She had said she had slept with over 50
• 19:34
  National Hockey League players out That
• 19:36
  was put out there.
• 19:38
  That just reminds me that cuz I think in
• 19:40
  there after there was uh a not mandatory
• 19:42
  AIDS test, but there were some guys
• 19:44
  sweating because she'd claimed that
• 19:45
  there was 50. Yes.
• 19:47
  >> That was uh
• 19:48
  >> Yeah, '92. That was the year before I
• 19:50
  hit the scene.
• 19:51
  >> I was eight years old, I SWEAR.
• 19:54
  >> [laughter]
• 19:54
  >> THE TATTOOS I JUST REMINDED FUNNY STORY.
• 19:58
  >> LOZO, LOZO, what was her name again?
• 19:59
  >> [laughter]
• 20:00
  >> Huh?
• 20:00
  >> What was her name again?
• 20:01
  Who's that your girlfriend there with
• 20:03
  the two tattoos?
• 20:05
  >> [laughter]
• 20:08
  >> Never been to Quebec or Montreal.
• 20:10
  >> Oh,
• 20:10
  he's wanted in every city in there.
• 20:12
  >> What
• 20:13
  Was it in Kenya?
• 20:14
  >> Kenya, that's right.
• 20:15
  >> Oh, can your balls fit in your mouth?
• 20:18
  >> [laughter]
• 20:21
  >> Oh, man. You guys Who's got any tattoos
• 20:23
  that you regret?
• 20:25
  >> I don't regret it. To me, it's all a
• 20:26
  piece of memory, like it's a piece of
• 20:28
  time in my life. I don't regret it.
• 20:30
  >> I
• 20:31
  >> Nope.
• 20:32
  >> Uh your [ __ ] stamp's amazing.
• 20:34
  >> I got I got one on
• 20:35
  >> You got one on your lower back?
• 20:37
  >> Yep.
• 20:37
  >> Yeah. Let me see it.
• 20:39
  >> I'll just
• 20:39
  >> I got a
• 20:40
  I got a shark tattoo on my back. It's a
• 20:42
  pretty cool picture. It was the first
• 20:43
  one I got when I was 19 cuz everybody
• 20:45
  was getting them and our buddy was a
• 20:47
  pretty good tattoo artist. Um but after
• 20:49
  that, I only got tattoos like I got a
• 20:51
  tattoo for Connor and my NHL career over
• 20:54
  here, my grandfather and Cooper over
• 20:56
  here, and then got Jesus on the inside
• 20:58
  of my left arm, and then I'm getting one
• 21:00
  over here on this side. I've got twins,
• 21:02
  so I'm going to get a a stopwatch
• 21:05
  with uh Ava's date uh time here and
• 21:08
  Ollie's time there with twins in the
• 21:10
  middle. And then I'm going to get a
• 21:11
  little leprechaun on the on the up here
• 21:14
  kind of pulling like that because they
• 21:16
  were born on March 17th. They're St.
• 21:18
  Paddy's Day babies.
• 21:20
  >> That your daughter for the first time.
• 21:22
  >> Isn't that weird?
• 21:23
  >> Yeah.
• 21:23
  >> First time I think it I think it's first
• 21:25
  time Ava's ever been to the Blues Alumni
• 21:27
  Box, but that was a the home opener was
• 21:29
  the first night I ever had all four of
• 21:31
  my kids up there.
• 21:32
  >> So it was a pretty special night. You
• 21:33
  got You got a beautiful family.
• 21:34
  >> Nice kids.
• 21:35
  >> You created some good-looking [laughter]
• 21:36
  children. You did, man. You did a good
• 21:38
  job, homie.
• 21:38
  >> They're good kids.
• 21:39
  >> Now Ollie wanted to fight me at the
• 21:41
  Alumni Skate with me.
• 21:42
  >> Ollie's a pain in the ass.
• 21:44
  >> He might be a pain in the ass, but uh
• 21:45
  no,
• 21:45
  >> But he That kid's got a big heart and
• 21:47
  >> Yeah.
• 21:47
  >> man, it's funny because it's like
• 21:49
  looking in the mirror and my mom laughs
• 21:51
  at me all the time, and there's times
• 21:52
  when I'm like like I used to get really
• 21:54
  upset with Ollie, but I have really just
• 21:56
  tried to like meet him where he's at,
• 21:58
  talk with them, love them and through
• 22:00
  this moment. And I That's We were
• 22:02
  sitting there the other night and I go,
• 22:03
  "You know what, Ollie?"
• 22:04
  I said, "There's moments where you hurt
• 22:06
  my self-esteem by just watching you
• 22:09
  >> [laughter]
• 22:10
  >> CUZ YOU REMIND ME OF MYSELF so much, but
• 22:13
  that kid's all heart and uh
• 22:16
  You're [laughter] just crushing my
• 22:17
  self-esteem here, bud.
• 22:19
  Do you have any tats?
• 22:21
  >> Nope.
• 22:21
  >> None. You're a clean slate for you.
• 22:22
  >> Clean slate, yeah. And everyone was
• 22:24
  getting
• 22:24
  >> For of their old equipment.
• 22:27
  >> Sending your offers.
• 22:29
  >> [laughter]
• 22:30
  >> Your skin for sale.
• 22:31
  >> No, we were on the road one weekend,
• 22:33
  right?
• 22:33
  >> Well, no, we got a couple of those
• 22:35
  things. We'll just leave that. Um
• 22:38
  No, that's what
• 22:39
  >> Wait, WAIT, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TALK
• 22:40
  ABOUT.
• 22:40
  >> Talk about that.
• 22:41
  >> Premium members members only for those.
• 22:44
  Um
• 22:45
  No, but I do remember coming in like so
• 22:46
  I started getting tattoos at like
• 22:48
  >> 10?
• 22:49
  >> 14 or 15.
• 22:50
  >> Nine?
• 22:50
  >> And
• 22:51
  >> On the res?
• 22:52
  >> I was going to say it's a prison tat.
• 22:53
  >> His brother His brother did a prison tat
• 22:55
  in the room.
• 22:56
  >> There may be a slight prison tat on me
• 22:58
  somewhere. Uh not from prison, but like
• 23:01
  some some guy's basement. But uh
• 23:04
  I remember
• 23:05
  I remember coming in in 1993 in training
• 23:07
  camp and nobody really had tattoos. If
• 23:10
  you did, it was like a small little
• 23:11
  thing and I'm like, I've got all of
• 23:12
  these things on me and I'm remember like
• 23:14
  Holley and those guys looking at me and
• 23:16
  Holley's like,
• 23:17
  "I LIKE THIS GUY."
• 23:19
  >> [laughter]
• 23:20
  >> LONG HAIR, AND earrings in, tattoos. And
• 23:23
  Jimmy Roberts used to shake his head at
• 23:25
  me. He'd
• 23:26
  >> [laughter]
• 23:26
  >> stop me in his office
• 23:28
  as I'd walk by in Worcester. You need to
• 23:30
  walk by. You could see like He'd go,
• 23:32
  "Hey!
• 23:33
  Get in here."
• 23:34
  [ __ ] I was just probably still
• 23:36
  hungover. Make me stand in his office.
• 23:38
  He'd go,
• 23:40
  "Fera,
• 23:42
  >> [laughter]
• 23:43
  >> where's your [ __ ] rock band? WHERE'S
• 23:45
  YOUR ROCK BAND?"
• 23:46
  >> [laughter]
• 23:47
  >> HE'S AWESOME.
• 23:48
  >> YEAH, ARE YOU HERE TO PLAY HOCKEY OR ARE
• 23:49
  YOU HERE TO MAKE MUSIC? I'd be like,
• 23:51
  "I'm here to make sweet music, Jimmy."
• 23:53
  >> [laughter]
• 23:53
  >> He was awesome.
• 23:54
  >> Hey, you're a fighter guy with a ring
• 23:55
  on?
• 23:57
  >> No.
• 23:57
  >> Yeah.
• 23:58
  >> Like on the ice or off the ice?
• 23:59
  >> No, no, no, on the ice. Where they kept
• 24:01
  their [ __ ] ring on.
• 24:02
  >> No.
• 24:02
  >> And catch it.
• 24:03
  >> Never.
• 24:03
  >> Did you?
• 24:04
  >> Yeah.
• 24:05
  >> Who?
• 24:06
  >> [ __ ] I just random guys I remember
• 24:07
  having their [ __ ] ring on. I know.
• 24:09
  >> A ring? Like a wedding ring?
• 24:11
  >> Yeah, they forgot to take their wedding
• 24:12
  ring off before they went on the ice.
• 24:13
  And you fight them, you're like,
• 24:15
  "What's that black thing or whatever on
• 24:17
  your arm on your hand?"
• 24:18
  >> I've never seen that.
• 24:19
  >> Who did that? Who did that?
• 24:21
  >> I'll get them for you. I'll get them.
• 24:23
  >> Right now?
• 24:23
  >> I don't think you meant to.
• 24:24
  >> It's a good way to [snorts] break your
• 24:25
  hand.
• 24:25
  >> I don't think you meant to.
• 24:26
  >> Break Yeah, break your finger, too.
• 24:28
  >> So, there's a I got coached in my first
• 24:30
  year pro I was in Worcester.
• 24:32
  >> My brain doesn't work anymore.
• 24:33
  >> Sorry, go ahead.
• 24:33
  >> Went down to Went down to the East Coast
• 24:35
  League playing in Baton Rouge with the
• 24:37
  Baton Rouge Kingfish and Dave the Hammer
• 24:39
  Schultz
• 24:40
  was our coach. And I'm telling you the
• 24:42
  craziest dude ever. I loved him, but on
• 24:45
  the bench he was like a player still.
• 24:48
  Like chirping the other guys, dropping
• 24:50
  C-bombs, swearing at everybody. And then
• 24:52
  you get off the ice and we'd be at a at
• 24:55
  a team dinner or out doing a team
• 24:56
  function, just the sweetest man you've
• 24:58
  ever met. He's got both his Stanley Cup
• 25:00
  rings, doesn't wear wedding rings. He's
• 25:02
  like, "These are my wedding rings, you
• 25:03
  know?" And but he's got picture in his
• 25:06
  office He had a picture in his office
• 25:07
  and he actually had tape in the '70s
• 25:10
  around his knuckles. Around his knuckles
• 25:12
  and then it was like probably somewhere
• 25:13
  in the '80s, early '80s where they said,
• 25:15
  "You can't have any tape on it." But he
• 25:16
  was standing He's like, "Oh yeah, we
• 25:17
  used to tape our knuckles so that
• 25:19
  whenever we came across it rubbed the
• 25:21
  skin."
• 25:21
  >> Putting the foil on.
• 25:22
  >> There's a story out there.
• 25:24
  I wish I could remember the player.
• 25:27
  Bob York actually talked about it, so
• 25:29
  it's a long time ago.
• 25:30
  But you know, surgical gloves these days
• 25:32
  have the latex and all that on them.
• 25:34
  Well, way back when it was just rubber,
• 25:36
  like grippy rubber. And there was a
• 25:38
  player that cut the fingers off of it
• 25:40
  and put it like put it on and cut the
• 25:41
  fingers off and went out and fought. And
• 25:44
  every time he'd hit somebody would rip a
• 25:45
  piece of skin off their face.
• 25:47
  And it took forever for them to figure
• 25:49
  out The guys were leaving the fight
• 25:50
  looking like they got mauled by a pit
• 25:52
  bull.
• 25:53
  >> [laughter]
• 25:53
  >> LIKE THEY GOT HIT WITH A DRIVING RANGE,
• 25:55
  LIKE golf balls off of their face. And
• 25:57
  they could never figure out cuz it's
• 25:58
  like skin tone and he'd get to the
• 26:00
  penalty box, like ice his hand, like
• 26:01
  peel the [ __ ] glove off, whatever.
• 26:03
  So finally they found it. I wish I could
• 26:05
  remember. Somebody hopefully is watching
• 26:06
  this will know the same story and and
• 26:09
  tag the story in it. But yeah, he had
• 26:11
  the surgical gloves where he cut the
• 26:13
  fingers off.
• 26:14
  And then just shady. And just
• 26:16
  >> You wouldn't be able to get away with
• 26:17
  that today with the cameras.
• 26:19
  >> They used to do the freaking tough skin.
• 26:20
  >> skin. You could smell it from a mile
• 26:22
  away. They dropped their gloves and I'm
• 26:23
  like,
• 26:23
  >> That was
• 26:24
  But that was to keep the cuts together.
• 26:27
  That wasn't for any other reason.
• 26:30
  >> Dude, it would it look like you had a
• 26:32
  rash after you got punched by that cuz
• 26:33
  you were like
• 26:34
  >> Come on.
• 26:36
  I mean, seriously, that's the best thing
• 26:37
  to keep him together.
• 26:41
  >> Yes, yes.
• 26:41
  >> And then they barely put their glove on
• 26:43
  cuz he didn't want to scratch his dick.
• 26:44
  [laughter]
• 26:45
  >> I can't change things.
• 26:46
  >> You'd have like a big rash on your
• 26:48
  >> [laughter]
• 26:48
  >> face cuz of that [ __ ] man.
• 26:50
  >> Rocky Thompson used to put Vaseline on
• 26:53
  his cheeks and stuff before games.
• 26:54
  You're like
• 26:55
  >> I never did that. Like I just whenever I
• 26:57
  knew I was getting ready to go
• 26:58
  >> out there and get after it, I would just
• 27:00
  put a little water cuz typically I
• 27:01
  hadn't had a whole lot of shifts, so I
• 27:03
  wasn't very sweaty.
• 27:04
  Uh but yeah, there was water on the face
• 27:06
  and
• 27:06
  >> Vaseline was a great intimidator because
• 27:10
  if you come out in the beginning of the
• 27:11
  game without any and you go you put it
• 27:14
  on, the other team notices and
• 27:15
  everybody's like, "Oh,
• 27:16
  >> He's ready to go.
• 27:17
  >> Yeah, and it changes it changes the
• 27:20
  attitude of the other team. And that
• 27:22
  that would be the reason I'd all I'd put
• 27:24
  that on just in the middle of the second
• 27:26
  period.
• 27:27
  >> Vaseline that whether it was to do or
• 27:29
  not because you could see
• 27:30
  >> Oh, that's good.
• 27:34
  >> That's a little attitude change for you.
• 27:35
  >> I hope so.
• 27:36
  >> Like it does not to get cut.
• 27:37
  >> Boxers do it for a reason.
• 27:39
  >> No [ __ ]
• 27:40
  Yeah, he's got stitches. You got to put
• 27:41
  that mug over the stitches because
• 27:43
  >> you don't have stitches, it don't hurt
• 27:44
  to have them slide a little better.
• 27:45
  >> Slide right off, baby.
• 27:46
  >> To take the rasp to the top of the
• 27:48
  helmet, take the rasp and just
• 27:50
  >> The Kevin Kaminski?
• 27:51
  >> And just put there'd be all these little
• 27:53
  rasp marks across I mean, those things
• 27:55
  you hit your head against that, it would
• 27:56
  cut it wide open.
• 27:57
  >> Were visors mandatory
• 27:58
  >> in junior when you played?
• 28:00
  >> No. Okay, so visors were mandatory for
• 28:02
  >> Oh, no, they were. Yeah, they were. They
• 28:04
  were mandatory.
• 28:05
  >> So, remember the big
• 28:06
  >> had Cooperall pants, too.
• 28:08
  >> Yeah, we had a good
• 28:09
  >> [laughter]
• 28:11
  >> Do you remember the like the big Itech
• 28:14
  visor and then they came up with the
• 28:15
  little like little bump? So, when they
• 28:18
  came out, the big Itech one was hard for
• 28:20
  guys to manipulate cuz you could totally
• 28:21
  tell, but when they had the little one
• 28:22
  with the little nose thing where you
• 28:24
  know, it was just a little more sleek, I
• 28:26
  remember walking in and like there were
• 28:27
  guys I played junior with, guys got his
• 28:29
  helmet near the the skate sharpener and
• 28:31
  he's sharpening up
• 28:32
  >> Come on, come on.
• 28:34
  >> of the
• 28:34
  >> That's another level.
• 28:35
  >> What if you're going to cut yourself?
• 28:37
  >> Didn't care, right? And so And then when
• 28:40
  he knew
• 28:41
  when when he knew he was going to fight,
• 28:43
  all of a sudden like the chin strap
• 28:44
  would be dangling. You look down the
• 28:45
  bench and that sucker was pretty tight.
• 28:47
  And he would go in and be like wham
• 28:49
  wham. And the guys would leave their
• 28:50
  hands would be covered in blood. The
• 28:52
  visor was cutting their hands wide open.
• 28:54
  Got to the point where referees would
• 28:56
  come over and start to do this like on
• 28:57
  the be like
• 28:58
  >> Are you kidding me? Got to go.
• 29:01
  You got to get an assignment or you got
• 29:02
  to leave the ice.
• 29:03
  >> That's creative.
• 29:04
  >> Yeah. I was
• 29:05
  >> That's [ __ ] gay.
• 29:06
  >> I think I was like 16. I'm like
• 29:08
  >> The thing about junior for us and it
• 29:09
  never happened in pro, but whenever
• 29:12
  there was a fight in junior
• 29:14
  unless it kind of just broke out, we
• 29:15
  always used to take our buckets off.
• 29:17
  Like always always always. If there was
• 29:19
  a heavyweight bout
• 29:19
  >> That became a thing.
• 29:21
  >> Spin spin a helmet kind of get going. I
• 29:23
  remember we took our lids off all the
• 29:24
  time.
• 29:25
  >> You did?
• 29:25
  >> Oh, yeah.
• 29:26
  In junior. But I tried it my first first
• 29:28
  exhibition game.
• 29:29
  >> did it. Yeah, guys would do the whole
• 29:30
  twirl.
• 29:30
  >> I got to get my story
• 29:32
  >> Finish your story.
• 29:33
  >> No no no no no. GO AHEAD.
• 29:35
  >> [laughter]
• 29:37
  >> I'M GOOD.
• 29:38
  LET'S GO.
• 29:39
  >> I'LL FINISH IT FOR YOU. I'LL finish it
• 29:40
  for you.
• 29:41
  >> I don't even remember what I was saying.
• 29:42
  >> Take your buckets the buckets off.
• 29:45
  >> And then we didn't do it in pro.
• 29:47
  >> Yeah.
• 29:47
  >> Why not?
• 29:48
  >> The what?
• 29:49
  >> I remember the first in my first fight
• 29:50
  in training camp, Bruce Ramsey.
• 29:52
  I tried to take the buckets off and he's
• 29:54
  like not not here, kid.
• 29:56
  >> [laughter]
• 29:57
  >> But then they made a rule you couldn't
• 29:58
  take your own helmet off. And then they
• 30:00
  you would unstrap the other guy's
• 30:01
  helmet.
• 30:02
  >> Remember that goofy thing?
• 30:04
  >> That was goofy.
• 30:05
  >> Like you'd unstrap the other guy's
• 30:06
  helmet.
• 30:07
  >> But I would sit there, right?
• 30:08
  >> That's weird.
• 30:09
  >> That's a lot of trust.
• 30:11
  >> I'm going to ONE TIME YOU.
• 30:15
  >> [laughter]
• 30:17
  >> THEY WERE DOING IT.
• 30:18
  >> YOU GO FIRST.
• 30:19
  >> BUT I strategically when I was in a
• 30:20
  fight I I first off I I never was this
• 30:23
  guy. I was always want square him up and
• 30:26
  that way I could have both hands in the
• 30:27
  game. And I would try and punch through
• 30:30
  and when I got through, I would grab the
• 30:32
  back of his helmet on the way through.
• 30:33
  And I would always try and grab that
• 30:35
  back of that cusp of that helmet, and
• 30:37
  pull it off and way back through, and
• 30:38
  then I'm right back at it.
• 30:39
  >> There you go.
• 30:39
  >> Punching no help.
• 30:40
  >> exactly what you're saying. It's like a
• 30:41
  punch take off.
• 30:42
  >> I'm trying to get a helmet off as soon
• 30:43
  as possible, cuz well, then I did it to
• 30:45
  Tie Domi, and I was like, "Eh, can I get
• 30:47
  your helmet back on,
• 30:48
  >> [laughter]
• 30:48
  >> please?" Cuz that hurt my fist punching
• 30:51
  his head.
• 30:51
  >> was What did you do, Soup?
• 30:52
  >> I just held on, and then if I saw a
• 30:54
  little window to try to make it look
• 30:55
  [laughter] good for the fans, I like,
• 30:56
  yeah.
• 30:57
  >> Oh, yeah. Upper cut a little. I'm like,
• 30:59
  "OH, THE FANS ARE LIKING THIS ONE,
• 31:00
  YEAH."
• 31:01
  >> [laughter]
• 31:01
  >> OKAY. BUT, I ALMOST WENT TO leather
• 31:03
  straps. What I want to ask you guys
• 31:04
  about the leather straps.
• 31:06
  >> I had them.
• 31:07
  >> Did that help?
• 31:09
  >> ones.
• 31:09
  >> Yeah.
• 31:10
  >> No.
• 31:10
  >> Nothing?
• 31:11
  >> No.
• 31:11
  >> I tied I Theoretically, it was supposed
• 31:14
  to not break.
• 31:15
  >> It was supposed to keep your helmet on
• 31:16
  during a fight?
• 31:17
  >> Well, there was there were leather
• 31:18
  straps, and the straps ended up being in
• 31:21
  the screws inside. So, if there was
• 31:23
  something like there was one time where
• 31:24
  I was getting it pulled, and it like
• 31:25
  almost hurt my neck, cuz my helmet was
• 31:27
  on, and I couldn't get it off. And I
• 31:29
  took them off after that, because I'd
• 31:30
  rather have my helmet off than
• 31:32
  >> than blind.
• 31:33
  >> being able to like run me around like
• 31:35
  control your neck.
• 31:37
  >> I would take my jersey, and the and all
• 31:39
  the trainers would get so pissed at me,
• 31:40
  especially with the Devils, cuz Lou
• 31:42
  wanted us to be look perfect, and I get
• 31:44
  that. But, I go like this.
• 31:46
  >> [clears throat and snorts]
• 31:47
  >> And then my my my shoulder pads were a
• 31:49
  little
• 31:49
  >> Can I get that sound again?
• 31:50
  Thank you.
• 31:51
  >> Loosey-goosey, so they don't have as
• 31:53
  much control. It's way out here, you
• 31:55
  know what I mean? Now, I kind of I take
• 31:57
  I take an extra 3 in. If he's 6'5", and
• 31:59
  you have to hold me out here, and then I
• 32:01
  kind of I'm in more control than you are
• 32:02
  over me.
• 32:03
  >> Does that make sense?
• 32:04
  >> That makes a lot of sense.
• 32:05
  >> I don't know if you did this, but I
• 32:06
  watched Pronger do this when I first got
• 32:08
  to St. Louis,
• 32:09
  when we got our jerseys, and we used to
• 32:11
  use three sets a season. I would take
• 32:14
  the the 25-lb plates, and I would put
• 32:16
  them in my sleeves, and I would hang
• 32:18
  them over the the the squat rack. So,
• 32:21
  those 25 And then, my sleeves would be
• 32:23
  all like this. So, you grabbed on me,
• 32:25
  you weren't you were just it was all
• 32:26
  loose.
• 32:27
  >> topic of all the tricks of the trade.
• 32:28
  >> Well, in Quebec, you can you can speak
• 32:30
  to so many tricks that are banned before
• 32:33
  these guys hit the league.
• 32:34
  >> Absolutely. So, when I was in Quebec, I
• 32:36
  would take I was a I became a
• 32:38
  professional sewer, so I would take the
• 32:40
  my right arm, I'd cut from the inside,
• 32:42
  I'd undo the threads
• 32:44
  from here to here. Then I'd fold it in
• 32:46
  backwards and I would resew it myself.
• 32:49
  Now, understand I sewed it pretty tight,
• 32:50
  but the thread that I'm using the stitch
• 32:52
  the the stitches are so far apart. So,
• 32:55
  it's in the middle of the fight when you
• 32:56
  start tugging, it would split from here
• 32:58
  to here. Ruh-roh.
• 33:00
  >> Right.
• 33:00
  >> now it's free.
• 33:01
  >> Yeah.
• 33:02
  >> Even the even before the games even the
• 33:04
  referee would come over and tug on my
• 33:05
  shirt, but I'd tug I mean, you'd have to
• 33:08
  really tug [snorts] on it to break it.
• 33:09
  He's like, "No, it's all good." But sure
• 33:10
  enough, if the fight breaks out, it
• 33:12
  splits from here to here.
• 33:14
  >> And now you're loosey-goosey, baby.
• 33:16
  >> When who was the first guy that you know
• 33:18
  of
• 33:19
  and what uh like what year do you think
• 33:21
  when guys would go to
• 33:23
  >> Basil McRae, John Kordic, Velcro.
• 33:24
  >> The Velcro shirts.
• 33:25
  >> Johnny Kordic
• 33:26
  >> put Velcro and then we just
• 33:28
  like right
• 33:28
  >> That was Johnny Kordic and Basil McRae.
• 33:30
  They both did that and then the team the
• 33:33
  league outlawed outlawed it.
• 33:34
  >> I think they did it and they fought each
• 33:36
  other.
• 33:36
  >> Oh, no, that's why they were doing it
• 33:38
  cuz he
• 33:38
  >> Johnny was with Toronto and Basil was
• 33:40
  with Minnesota at the time. I think and
• 33:43
  you watched there's one fight on YouTube
• 33:44
  where both their sleeves are up by their
• 33:46
  shoulders.
• 33:46
  >> [laughter]
• 33:47
  >> And I forget who started it first. I
• 33:49
  think it was I think it was Baz that
• 33:51
  started and then Johnny fell followed
• 33:52
  suit. And Dave Brown might used to take
• 33:55
  Spam and all over his left arm.
• 33:56
  >> also would have the trainer cut his
• 33:58
  sleeve. He had a little weed left like
• 34:00
  if you look at Dave Brown when he's
• 34:01
  playing, his little his left sleeve is
• 34:03
  like a little wee sleeve and his right
• 34:05
  was normal cuz he'd have a hard time
• 34:07
  grabbing it and then he'd grease it up
• 34:08
  like a pig and he'd be like
• 34:10
  >> Once they outlawed that, then the guys
• 34:11
  went to the goalie cut shirts.
• 34:15
  >> [laughter]
• 34:15
  >> Always looking for it. So,
• 34:16
  >> you're in junior and I remember like we
• 34:18
  had tie-downs when I was in junior, but
• 34:20
  you were 10 years before that.
• 34:21
  >> Yeah.
• 34:21
  >> You had Did you guys used to take like
• 34:23
  the little diamond tie down thing around
• 34:25
  it?
• 34:26
  At one point in time, they we we wore
• 34:28
  they wore tie-downs so that the jersey
• 34:30
  couldn't come off and then the Rob Ray
• 34:32
  rule obviously because he stopped tying
• 34:34
  down so that he could go through and get
• 34:36
  everything off, had hardly any pads or
• 34:38
  anything on and then obviously that
• 34:39
  happened and you know, he was just being
• 34:41
  a like to fight a guy like Darren
• 34:43
  McCarty when I fought him in St. Louis,
• 34:46
  he came off and I literally had him by
• 34:48
  the throat just holding him out there
• 34:50
  because I had nowhere else to go and
• 34:52
  it's you know, it's obviously a
• 34:53
  disadvantage. He got kicked out of the
• 34:55
  game.
• 34:55
  >> I've never I I never fought a guy where
• 34:57
  he comes out of his [ __ ] gear
• 34:58
  totally. Did it ever cross your mind
• 35:00
  that once he comes out of his gear you
• 35:01
  skate away? Like I'm [ __ ] done here.
• 35:03
  Like
• 35:03
  >> I'm not a [ __ ]
• 35:04
  >> I fought the guy.
• 35:05
  >> I got to hug him.
• 35:06
  >> I'd be like I'm looking at the ref and
• 35:07
  be like I'm [ __ ] done.
• 35:08
  >> It's happened many times.
• 35:09
  >> But he's still got a hold of you. He's
• 35:11
  got a hold of you.
• 35:11
  >> No, but if he doesn't like if you break
• 35:13
  free I'd be like I'm
• 35:13
  >> Or break free to take your [ __ ] off and
• 35:15
  >> Well, I've seen that happen before.
• 35:16
  >> I've seen that happen. I've seen
• 35:17
  Thompson and Scotty Parker back in the
• 35:20
  day.
• 35:21
  >> Here's Here's another question for you
• 35:23
  guys. When they guys break off, I just
• 35:25
  saw this last week, they broke off and
• 35:27
  then they just started throwing like
• 35:28
  this standing off instead of tying up.
• 35:30
  What do you guys do there?
• 35:32
  >> Same.
• 35:32
  >> Do you try to [laughter] tie up or you
• 35:33
  just go toe-to-toe?
• 35:35
  >> You stand on a box.
• 35:36
  >> So if I ever got into a position where I
• 35:38
  was either out of control or I had lost
• 35:40
  my grip on a guy and he had it on there,
• 35:43
  my first move was like this over top of
• 35:45
  his shoulders and get back to my what I
• 35:47
  would call my square one. Like this is
• 35:49
  where I started to fight.
• 35:50
  >> Always defense.
• 35:51
  >> Roussin had an advantage though.
• 35:52
  >> He's a huge man.
• 35:54
  >> Right.
• 35:54
  >> Like for Cam, that's really not an
• 35:55
  option.
• 35:59
  >> [laughter]
• 35:59
  >> No, I just got to eat him the right way.
• 36:02
  >> Eat him the right way, isn't it?
• 36:04
  >> But some of these fights like Stu
• 36:05
  Grimson [laughter] came in with one
• 36:07
  punch and knocked a guy out.
• 36:08
  >> That was brutal.
• 36:09
  >> Quick. Like one bang.
• 36:10
  >> Yeah.
• 36:10
  >> That's our boy.
• 36:11
  >> The Reeves Simpson.
• 36:12
  >> That's offense first. Do you go offense
• 36:14
  first or defense first?
• 36:15
  >> Did you see that fight on
• 36:16
  >> Whatever.
• 36:18
  >> Yeah, he just came in and I don't know
• 36:19
  what that is.
• 36:20
  >> Hold on.
• 36:21
  Go ahead.
• 36:21
  >> What are you saying?
• 36:22
  >> I was asking Twister if he ever went
• 36:24
  defense first.
• 36:25
  >> there's no defense.
• 36:26
  >> Coming in throwing right away.
• 36:27
  >> Oh yeah, no, there's a left jab. Sure.
• 36:29
  There's no defense.
• 36:30
  >> Tying up that would be considered
• 36:32
  You would just throw toe-to-toe.
• 36:33
  >> Yeah.
• 36:34
  >> Never tie up.
• 36:34
  >> Did you when you squared off though like
• 36:36
  no if I'm squaring off with you I'm
• 36:37
  going like this. And I'm taking these
• 36:39
  elbow pads and throwing them off right
• 36:40
  off the bat like this guy here. out of
• 36:42
  Get out of here.
• 36:43
  >> My elbow pads were this big and I didn't
• 36:45
  wear shoulder pads. I had two cups that
• 36:47
  hung off me.
• 36:47
  >> Sillinders.
• 36:48
  >> One of my favorite things about Twister
• 36:50
  is when he did square off
• 36:52
  is like you didn't get guys not even
• 36:54
  like that. He'd be like this.
• 36:56
  >> Yeah.
• 36:57
  >> Almost disinterested. He'd be like
• 36:59
  just follow.
• 37:00
  >> Yeah.
• 37:00
  >> Like I'm just waiting for you.
• 37:02
  >> Twister, just show the just show the
• 37:03
  stance.
• 37:04
  Just show the stance.
• 37:05
  >> There it is.
• 37:06
  >> That's a bare knuckle hockey card right
• 37:07
  there.
• 37:07
  >> He wouldn't even grimace. He was like
• 37:09
  this. Almost like
• 37:10
  >> Here we go again.
• 37:11
  >> Here we go.
• 37:12
  >> There's a picture in the alumni room in
• 37:13
  our in our
• 37:15
  in our suite at the at the Enterprise
• 37:17
  and that's you standing there and you're
• 37:18
  like this and it's all blocked out
• 37:21
  except for your white jersey.
• 37:23
  >> It looks awesome.
• 37:24
  >> favorite picture
• 37:25
  in the in the entire alumni suite and it
• 37:28
  just like man, whoever was on the other
• 37:30
  side of that
• 37:31
  having a bad day. I know how you feel.
• 37:35
  >> [laughter]
• 37:36
  >> OH, BOY.
• 37:37
  >> THING, WHO INVENTED the running jump
• 37:39
  punch? Remember that you see these guys
• 37:41
  come charging
• 37:41
  >> Show me your punch.
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  >> Yeah, the guy started it. He's the only
• 37:44
  guy I've ever seen do it.
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  >> was one guy before B E X because B E X
• 37:47
  was talking about it one day
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  uh
• 37:50
  online. It was I guess it was Hockey
• 37:51
  Night in Canada.
• 37:52
  He'd seen one guy before try it and he's
• 37:55
  like, "Eh, I'll give it a try." And then
• 37:58
  obviously it now it's like the UFC
• 37:59
  Superman punch.
• 38:00
  >> St. Pierre St. Pierre did that a lot I
• 38:02
  think.
• 38:02
  >> [ __ ] clocked what's his name with it
• 38:04
  and knocked him out. It was Goodis. Now
• 38:07
  Goodis is not a fighter. Tough as
• 38:08
  [ __ ] nails and he'd bury you in a
• 38:10
  heartbeat but he's not a great
• 38:13
  fighter.
• 38:13
  >> But he Superman punched
• 38:14
  >> He got caught with it. He got knocked
• 38:15
  him out.
• 38:16
  >> Put him
• 38:17
  >> Put him right down.
• 38:17
  >> Put him down.
• 38:18
  >> Put him down. Caught him. He caught him.
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  >> Yeah, if you miss that, I think you're
• 38:21
  not in a very good position.
• 38:22
  >> Yeah, a couple guys tried it after that
• 38:24
  and they missed and they kind of just
• 38:25
  fell and they got lucky a little bit.
• 38:26
  >> Yeah, the kid from Toronto tried it
• 38:28
  there. What was that Benoit kid?
• 38:29
  >> Yeah, it was actually pretty cool.
• 38:31
  >> It was okay. Even when he he kind of hit
• 38:33
  it, kind of didn't he? Whatever.
• 38:35
  >> The evolution of fighting is what you
• 38:36
  guys has went through. You had the
• 38:38
  stitching of the jerseys, the Superman.
• 38:40
  What's next?
• 38:42
  >> Just get fighting back in the game.
• 38:43
  >> [laughter]
• 38:44
  >> But fighting's it's a comeback.
• 38:46
  >> Yeah.
• 38:46
  >> It is.
• 38:46
  >> They're stocking up the players.
• 38:48
  >> The sad part is is Nathan MacKinnon's
• 38:49
  doing it. You know what I mean? Like you
• 38:50
  got to fight the Which I I I love I love
• 38:52
  the fights. Whenever I was on the bench
• 38:54
  and one of our best players got pissed
• 38:57
  off, dropped the gloves, and kicked
• 38:58
  somebody's ass, it inspired me to want
• 39:00
  to go to beat somebody up after and I'm
• 39:02
  like, "All right." That'd be like if I
• 39:04
  score a goal, that guy's like, "I better
• 39:05
  score a goal tonight, too." [laughter]
• 39:06
  If he gets in a fight, I better go to
• 39:08
  get in a fight tonight, too.
• 39:09
  >> Who was he scoring?
• 39:11
  >> It is fighting's coming back. Uh-oh.
• 39:14
  >> [laughter]
• 39:14
  >> That was That was a low blow.
• 39:16
  >> What are you talking about?
• 39:18
  >> I think the evolution started maybe like
• 39:19
  when guys really trained for it. You
• 39:22
  know, like training in MMA, like
• 39:25
  >> No, that's true.
• 39:25
  >> doing [clears throat] different stuff
• 39:26
  and boxing and hockey fight training and
• 39:29
  stuff like that. I don't know if too
• 39:31
  many guys like Twisty, you probably did,
• 39:32
  but I don't think that many guys do grow
• 39:35
  up training when you were older,
• 39:37
  remember we used to do it with Finny,
• 39:38
  but before that when you were young,
• 39:40
  were you training hockey fights?
• 39:41
  >> The only thing I trained in a that was
• 39:43
  would be hockey fight thought process
• 39:46
  was when I was 18 after my first year
• 39:48
  junior, I went home and trained on a
• 39:50
  tensor bandage, wrapped it around a
• 39:51
  heavy bag, and I just threw my left
• 39:53
  hands as hard and as fast as I could
• 39:55
  until my shoulder was exhausted, and I
• 39:57
  did that every single day after I was
• 39:58
  done working out. So, when I went back
• 40:00
  down to the SJHL in Minot the next year,
• 40:02
  they'd grab onto my right, that's where
• 40:04
  I started coming in with the left. And
• 40:06
  then, quite frankly, weirdly enough, I
• 40:08
  probably use my left hand more in fights
• 40:10
  through the rest of my career than I did
• 40:12
  my right. But, I'd always like I would
• 40:14
  square off like this, and then I'd
• 40:16
  square off left, and then come back
• 40:17
  right, just
• 40:18
  trying to get in their head like which
• 40:20
  one's coming at you, man?
• 40:21
  >> throw both.
• 40:21
  >> Yeah. Yeah, they already knew it.
• 40:23
  >> like there's video on it.
• 40:24
  >> Yeah. Yeah, they're watching and they
• 40:25
  know that that it's coming from both
• 40:26
  sides. So, if I if I wanted to show
• 40:29
  like, "Hey." And I always had a smirk on
• 40:31
  my face, too, like I was excited, you
• 40:32
  know?
• 40:33
  >> That'll set somebody on their heel but
• 40:34
  excited.
• 40:35
  >> You what?
• 40:36
  >> That'll set somebody on their heel on
• 40:37
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• 40:40
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