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Top 5 Bingeable SCARY STORIES • MISSING Persons Edition · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: today's stories. On the morning of September fifteenth, twenty sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: an eighty year old widow named Rita Wolfinson shuffled her
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  Speaker 1: way into her kitchen inside of her brick home in Brooklyn,
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  Speaker 1: New York. However, Rita was basically blind, and as she
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  Speaker 1: made her way into the kitchen, she walked past her
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  Speaker 1: table and her foot caught a basket of newspapers in
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  Speaker 1: the ground, and it caused her to stumble and fall
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  Speaker 1: to the floor. And the second she hit the ground,
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  Speaker 1: she heard a pop. And the second she heard that pop,
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  Speaker 1: she felt a shooting pain in her hip, and she
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  Speaker 1: knew right away very likely her hip was broken. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, this is a huge problem if you break
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  Speaker 1: your hip, but for Rita in particular, this was a
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  Speaker 1: very very serious problem. I mean, this was potentially life
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  Speaker 1: and death, and she knew it. And she also knew
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  Speaker 1: the reason this was so serious was all her fault.
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  Speaker 1: Rita lived completely alone and basically had cut off everybody
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  Speaker 1: in her life for like twenty years. She had not
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  Speaker 1: interacted with virtually anybody in her life by choice, and
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  Speaker 1: basically the reason for this all started twenty years earlier
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  Speaker 1: with her book loved son Lewis, who lived with her
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  Speaker 1: but for some reason twenty years ago, so basically right
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  Speaker 1: at the time when she cut off her whole family
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  Speaker 1: and all her friends, her son Louis just kind of
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  Speaker 1: inexplicably packed up and left her house without saying anything,
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  Speaker 1: and then she never heard from him again, and so
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  Speaker 1: suddenly losing her son for reasons unknown sent Rita into
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  Speaker 1: the spiraling depression, and the way she coped with it
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  Speaker 1: was basically cutting off the entire world around her. And
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  Speaker 1: she just lived in this house totally isolated, totally alone.
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  Speaker 1: And so now here she is stuck on the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: floor with a broken hip, unable to get up or
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  Speaker 1: call for help, and nobody, nobody is going to come
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  Speaker 1: by to help her. Nobody even knows she's in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: She's all alone. But despite basically being blind and knowing
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  Speaker 1: she's in this horrible situation, somewhere deep down, Rita fines
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  Speaker 1: this inner strength. She knows that if she's going to
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  Speaker 1: survive this, she has to save herself. And so she
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  Speaker 1: kind of rolled over onto her other side, you know,
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  Speaker 1: despite the pain in her hip throbbing the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: she got herself onto her elbows, and she began low
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  Speaker 1: crawling her way towards the coffee table in the living
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  Speaker 1: room that was right near the kitchen, and she finally
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  Speaker 1: got over there, you know, the whole time she got
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  Speaker 1: this horrible pain on her side. She gets to the table,
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  Speaker 1: she reaches up and she grabs her phone, which she
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  Speaker 1: basically never used because she didn't talk to anybody or
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  Speaker 1: take any phone calls. But she managed to get the
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  Speaker 1: receiver off the cradle and she dialed nine to one one.
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  Speaker 1: And so a few minutes later, the ambulance arrives at
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  Speaker 1: Rita's house. They come in, they find Rita, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's still on the ground. They scoop her up, they
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  Speaker 1: put her in the ambulance and they go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And when they get there, you know, very quickly, they
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  Speaker 1: put Rita through a bunch of scans and tests and
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  Speaker 1: they confirmed you know what Rita was already expecting, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, her hip is broken. However, after telling her
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that her hip was broken, the nurses
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  Speaker 1: and doctors told Rita that, you know, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to stay here for surgery. But then after you get
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  Speaker 1: out of surgery, you can't just go home. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're legally blind, you're very frail, and you don't live
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  Speaker 1: with anyone, and you nearly died from falling on your
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  Speaker 1: kitchen floor because had you not been able to reach
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  Speaker 1: your phone, you would have starved to death. And so
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  Speaker 1: we can't just send you home. You're going to need
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  Speaker 1: to think about potentially moving into assisted living or living
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  Speaker 1: with a relative or having somebody come and live with you.
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  Speaker 1: And so they told Rita that what she would need
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  Speaker 1: to do is move into an assisted living home where
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  Speaker 1: basically nurses and a medical team would be able to
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  Speaker 1: care for her on a day to day basis. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't going to be allowed to move back into
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  Speaker 1: her beloved home where she'd spent her whole life. And
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  Speaker 1: for Rita this news was just unbelievably devastating. I mean
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  Speaker 1: not only because that was her home, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: where she spent all her time, but also because it
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  Speaker 1: was the last place she had been before Louis had
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  Speaker 1: left inexplicably. I mean, twenty years later, she's still dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the trauma of losing her son, and that house
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  Speaker 1: was kind of like the last memory of her son.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, his bedroom had basically been untouched since he
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  Speaker 1: left because she was so holding on to his memory.
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  Speaker 1: And so after the nurses and doctors left, Rita was
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  Speaker 1: left in the room all alone, kind of unsure what
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  Speaker 1: to do, and it dawned on her she would need
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  Speaker 1: to do something that for twenty years she had completely
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  Speaker 1: avoided doing. She would need to call her family. So
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  Speaker 1: she grabbed the phone, and she still remembered the number
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  Speaker 1: of her younger brother, Joseph, and so she called Joseph up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the reason she called Joseph is, you know, over the
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  Speaker 1: past twenty years the one family member who had basically
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  Speaker 1: tried really hard to stay in touch with Rita after
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  Speaker 1: she cut everybody off, was Joseph. And so she figured
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  Speaker 1: if there was anybody in her family who would not
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  Speaker 1: judge her for the silence and you know, being cut off,
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  Speaker 1: it would be Joseph. And so a couple of seconds later,
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  Speaker 1: a phone rang inside of a house pretty far away
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  Speaker 1: from the hospital, but still in New York. And this
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  Speaker 1: was Joseph's house, and he was sitting on the couch
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  Speaker 1: reading a book and his wife was in the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: doing her thing. And Joseph he answers the phone and
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  Speaker 1: when he hears Rita's voice, he couldn't believe it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he was shocked to hear her after so many years.
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  Speaker 1: But immediately the feeling he had was relief. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he and his sister before you know, Lewis had left
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  Speaker 1: and kind of destroyed Rita's life. You know, Joseph and
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  Speaker 1: his older sister had been very close and it had
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  Speaker 1: really broken his heart when Rita had cut him off.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he felt like if there was one person
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  Speaker 1: that Rita would have stayed in touch with, it would
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  Speaker 1: have been him. But he didn't judge her, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he was ready to hear whatever she had to say,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously something big had to have happened for her
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  Speaker 1: to call him. And so he asked her, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, what's going on? And Rita would explain,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she fell and she needs help. And Joseph
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  Speaker 1: was like, I will be there as soon as I
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  Speaker 1: possibly can. And also I'll have my wife swing by
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  Speaker 1: your house to grab you know, your toothbrush and some
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  Speaker 1: toilet trees and a couple of things from home to
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  Speaker 1: make your stay at the hospital a bit better. But
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  Speaker 1: we're going to get through this. I'll be there as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I can. A few hours later, as Joseph
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  Speaker 1: was making his way to the hospital to see Rita,
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  Speaker 1: Joseph's wife was on her way to Rita's house to
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  Speaker 1: pick up her things. And so she pulled up in
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  Speaker 1: front of the house and she looked up at the
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  Speaker 1: big brick house and it looked the same as it had,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ten twenty years ago. She made her way
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  Speaker 1: up to the door. She didn't knock because she knew
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  Speaker 1: nobody was home, and so she used the key that
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  Speaker 1: Joseph gave her. She unlocked the door, she opened it up,
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  Speaker 1: and immediately she was hit with this horrible smell. So
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  Speaker 1: Rita was basically a hoarder, and so she had lots
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  Speaker 1: of you know, plates of food and all this stuff
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  Speaker 1: just kind of jammed inside of her house and it
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  Speaker 1: was all rotting, and so her house really smelled horrible.
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  Speaker 1: Not to mention, Rita basically never went outside. Remember, she
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  Speaker 1: kind of was a hermit for the past twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: and so Joseph's wife was kind of bracing for a
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  Speaker 1: pretty disgusting living situation, but this was far more repulsive
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  Speaker 1: than even she had braced for. But she knew she
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  Speaker 1: had a job to do, you know, get in there
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  Speaker 1: and get some things for Rita, and so she kind
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  Speaker 1: of began breathing through her mouth only to avoid the smell.
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  Speaker 1: And so she stepped into the house, which again you know,
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  Speaker 1: was piled high on either side of the hallway with
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  Speaker 1: newspapers and just kind of junk. And so she began
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  Speaker 1: walking through the house and she eventually turned toward a
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  Speaker 1: flight of stairs. She went up to the second floor,
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  Speaker 1: and the second floor is the same as the first floor,
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  Speaker 1: the plates of food and junk and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And she didn't know which bedroom was Rita's, so she
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  Speaker 1: just went to the first door that she saw and
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  Speaker 1: she opened it up, kind of hoping that maybe this
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  Speaker 1: would be Rita's bedroom. But the second she opened up
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  Speaker 1: that door, not only was she hit with more horrible smells,
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  Speaker 1: but she saw something in this room that she was
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  Speaker 1: no braced for, something that terrified her to the point
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  Speaker 1: where she shut the door, turned around, and sprinted out
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  Speaker 1: of the house, practically screaming, and then as soon as
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  Speaker 1: she was outside, she dialed nine to one one. It
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  Speaker 1: would turn out Rita's understanding of what actually transpired twenty
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  Speaker 1: years earlier with Louis inexplicably leaving, you know, the event
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  Speaker 1: that basically caused Rita to shut down and cut her
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  Speaker 1: whole family off, her understanding of that was totally wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Rita had always believed that her son had just kind
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  Speaker 1: of stopped loving her or didn't like her anymore, or
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  Speaker 1: something like there was some sort of falling out, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why he had just kind of packed up his
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  Speaker 1: stuff and left without even saying goodbye. But that wasn't true.
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  Speaker 1: Louis loved his mother, he didn't just randomly abandon her.
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  Speaker 1: But twenty years earlier, when Louis was twenty nine years old,
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  Speaker 1: while he was still living with Rita in her house,
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  Speaker 1: he died somewhat unexpectedly from natural causes. It's believed he
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  Speaker 1: had some sort of terminal illness that he may or
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  Speaker 1: may not have known about, and it's unclear if he
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  Speaker 1: even communicated that he was sick or that he had
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  Speaker 1: this illness to his mother. And so twenty years earlier,
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  Speaker 1: he went into his bedroom one night, and he passed
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  Speaker 1: away in his bed, and his mother, Rita, instead of
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  Speaker 1: going into his bedroom and checking on him, just didn't
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  Speaker 1: go into his bedroom and instead convinced herself that her
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  Speaker 1: son must have abandoned her because he didn't love her anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and it sent her into the spiraling depression and she
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  Speaker 1: cut off her whole family, when in reality, Lewis had
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  Speaker 1: never left her house. He was still laying in his
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  Speaker 1: bed upstairs all those twenty years. And so when Joseph's
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  Speaker 1: wife went into Rita's house and went into that first bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: she saw on the second floor. What she saw was
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  Speaker 1: Louis's skeleton, still wearing a shirt and pants, laying in
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  Speaker 1: his bed, obviously deceased, and that's why she went running
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  Speaker 1: out of the house and called nine one one and
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  Speaker 1: so in a very bizarre and morbid way. It was
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  Speaker 1: this discovery by Joseph's wife that would ultimately bring Rita
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  Speaker 1: back together again with her family. On February twenty seventh,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, eighteen year old Daylan Pua was visiting his
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  Speaker 1: grandmother on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. Dalen, who was
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  Speaker 1: a Hawaiian native himself, didn't spend much time in Oahu
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  Speaker 1: with his grandmother, and since he was here, he figured
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  Speaker 1: he would do the one thing he had always wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, which was to climb the islands very famous
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  Speaker 1: and very illegal Haiku Stairs, or better known as the
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  Speaker 1: Stairway to Heaven. These stairs were a very narrow, rusty,
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  Speaker 1: not well maintained, four thousand steps staircase that weaved its
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  Speaker 1: way up the side of this Hawaiian mountain. It was
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  Speaker 1: built during World War Two by the United States Navy
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  Speaker 1: because they wanted access to the top of this mountain,
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  Speaker 1: where they had a secret radio station. After the war
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  Speaker 1: was over, instead of demolishing the steps, they allowed people
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  Speaker 1: to walk up and check out the view. But it
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  Speaker 1: was so dangerous and it was not well maintained that
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  Speaker 1: they eventually closed it to the public starting in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty seven and literally put a fence up and even
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  Speaker 1: put guards out to keep people from going in. But
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  Speaker 1: Dalen really wanted to do this, so that morning he
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  Speaker 1: tells his grandmother that he's thinking about hopping the fence
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  Speaker 1: and making the hike, and his grandmother's like, that's a
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  Speaker 1: horrible idea. Not only is it dangerous, but they're going
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  Speaker 1: to find you thousands of dollars if they catch you
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Dalen backed down from what he said and
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  Speaker 1: he said, okay, okay, I won't go, And he kind
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  Speaker 1: of played it off like I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 1: on this hike. But sure enough, right after breakfast, he
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  Speaker 1: slipped out of the house, hopped in a bus, and
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  Speaker 1: he made his way over to the base of these stairs.
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  Speaker 1: Even though it was totally illegal and he was incriminating himself,
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  Speaker 1: he was so excited about going on this hike that
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  Speaker 1: he documented the whole trip by posting pictures of it
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  Speaker 1: to his social media, and so the first picture begins
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  Speaker 1: with him at the base of the stairs, where he
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  Speaker 1: posts a picture as he's about to start this hike,
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  Speaker 1: and then all morning he's taking pictures along the way
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  Speaker 1: up these four thousand stairs. But then around eleven am
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  Speaker 1: that morning, the posting stops abruptly, and he hasn't reached
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  Speaker 1: the summit. And you figure, if you're going to do
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  Speaker 1: this hike and you're already posting pictures of just the
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  Speaker 1: way up, certainly when you get to the summit, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to take a whole bunch of pictures and post
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  Speaker 1: all of those, because that's the prize at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this hike. But for whatever reason, the posting stopped
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  Speaker 1: at eleven and he clearly hadn't reached the summit yet.
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  Speaker 1: And by that night, when he didn't come home, the
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  Speaker 1: family was really concerned and they told police. Police launched
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  Speaker 1: this huge search for him. They're looking all over the stairs,
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  Speaker 1: they got helicopters out, the Navy gets involved. There's no
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  Speaker 1: sign of him. He's just vanished. When they couldn't find
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  Speaker 1: him after several days, they had to call the search off,
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  Speaker 1: and the assumption was, well, you're doing something dangerous. There's
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  Speaker 1: a reason this is off limits. He probably slipped at
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  Speaker 1: some point and fell down the mountain. That's why this
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  Speaker 1: is off limits. It's not safe. But when people reviewed
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  Speaker 1: some of his last photos that he had posted to
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  Speaker 1: social media, they noticed something in this picture. This shot
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  Speaker 1: looks like he's just taking a picture of the dense
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  Speaker 1: forest around the stairs, but if you looked more closely,
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  Speaker 1: there is a man very clearly crouched down a little
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  Speaker 1: ways down the trail that appears to be hiding. And
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  Speaker 1: many people believe that guy was following Dalen and at
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  Speaker 1: some point attacked him. That Dalen didn't fall off the mountain,
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  Speaker 1: he was abducted or kill. To this day, Dalen has
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  Speaker 1: never been found and that mystery man has never been identified.
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  Speaker 1: Growing up, Colton Louder was a joy to be around.
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  Speaker 1: He was always goofing off and making people smile, and
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  Speaker 1: he had a really infectious laugh. But secretly he was
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  Speaker 1: depressed and began self medicating at a very young age.
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  Speaker 1: By the time he was eighteen, he was a full
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  Speaker 1: fledged drug addict, and by the time he was twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: he was in jail on a life sentence for murdering
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  Speaker 1: his uncle. Over a drug related dispute. Colton's actions had
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  Speaker 1: a profound impact on his family, but none more so
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  Speaker 1: than on his twin sister, Caylin. She had known about
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  Speaker 1: his pain even when he was putting on that facade
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  Speaker 1: of being happy and bubbly and outgoing, and she had
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  Speaker 1: reached out to him and tried to help him, but
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  Speaker 1: she could never get through to him, and when he
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  Speaker 1: was ultimately convicted, it was crushing to her. She felt
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  Speaker 1: like she couldn't help someone who was really vulnerable. But
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  Speaker 1: instead of just feeling bad about this, she took her
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  Speaker 1: sadness about her brother and watching him spiral and turned
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  Speaker 1: that into a laser focus on helping other vulnerable people
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  Speaker 1: that were struggling with addiction and depression to try to
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  Speaker 1: help them before they end up like her brother. And
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  Speaker 1: eventually she would get her degree in social work from
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  Speaker 1: Utah State. But despite Caylen's best intentions to want to
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  Speaker 1: help as many people as she could, she found it
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  Speaker 1: very difficult to find work in her field, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't uncommon for her to have fairly long stretches of unemployment,
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  Speaker 1: and it was during one of those long stretches in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen that Caylen's life rapidly fell apart, and it
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  Speaker 1: left everybody who knew her thinking what just happened. On
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  Speaker 1: September twenty six, twenty fourteen, a little after nine pm,
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  Speaker 1: Kylan calls nine to one one. She reported that there
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  Speaker 1: was this huge brutal fight taking place in her condo's clubhouse. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a restaurant where you could rent it
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  Speaker 1: out in the first floor of this condo complex, and
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  Speaker 1: she said it was getting out of hand. Police needed
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  Speaker 1: to come over here and stop it before someone got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: The police asked her if weapons were involved. Were people
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  Speaker 1: using weapons in this fight, and Kaylen says, yes, guns.
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  Speaker 1: But when police rushed to the scene, bracing for the worst,
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  Speaker 1: they discover that it's just a docile wedding reception happening
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  Speaker 1: inside of this clubhouse, and not one person in there
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  Speaker 1: reported any altercation happening. They were like, we're being pretty quiet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where she would have got that from.
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  Speaker 1: One guest would tell police that they had lit off
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  Speaker 1: a single firecracker, but they showed them what they had
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  Speaker 1: used and they were these little, tiny, cheap things that
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  Speaker 1: made almost no noise. So it is possible that Caylen
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  Speaker 1: could have mistaken that for a gunshot, but it does
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  Speaker 1: seem highly unlikely. Police leave, and then one hour later,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Caylen calls nine one one again, but she immediately hangs
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: up as soon as an operator has actually answered the phone,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and the operator calls the number back, and Caylen picks
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the phone up, but she's not really speaking. She's mumbling.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: She sounds confused, and the operator said, you know, hey,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you tried to call nine one one a minute ago.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Is everything okay? Can you tell me where you are?
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: And Kaylan would have a really hard time giving her
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: address to the police. It was like she couldn't remember
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: her address and she's mumbling, and at some point she says,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: my roommate thinks I'm delusional and paranoid, but I'm not.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Caylen eventually kind of calmed down and said she was
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: sorry for calling nine one one, and the operator said okay,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: and they hung up and that was the end of
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the call. The next morning, Caylen calls nine one one
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: for a third time in twenty four hours. This time
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: she's frantic. While she's on the phone with the operator,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: she's periodically screaming at these two people that are apparently
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: robbing her apartment. To get the f out of here.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Get out of my apartment. You can't be here, and
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the operator is trying to get more information out of Kaylan,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: but Caylen is very distressed. She can barely communicate with
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: the operator. She's half crying, and the operator tells her
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: can you leave? Can you go somewhere safe? And Kaylen
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: says no, there's only one way out. This is a
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: small apartment. I can't go past them. And the operator
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: tells them the police are on their way. Just stay
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: in your bedroom, don't go anywhere. So, while Kaylen is
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: huddled in her bedroom and the dispatcher is still on
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the line listening, you hear Cayln's roommate, Carol, walk into
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: her bedroom and very calmly say Caylin, what's going on?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And Kaylen's like, Carol, get over here. You'll lock the door.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Get in here. There's two people in here. They're robbing us.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: They're out there, they're in the other room. And Carol's like, no,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: there's no one here. The front door's locked.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Caylen suddenly sounds really confused and she says, well, I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: can't explain that, but they must have been in here
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: because I heard them. They must have had a key,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: and that's how they got in, and that's how they
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: got out. And right at that moment, the responding officers
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: show up and there was no sign of a break in,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: nothing had been taken. It really looked like nothing had
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: happened unless someone really did have a key. At this point,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Caylin was very embarrassed. She apologized to the officers, she
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: apologized to her roommate, and she ended up calling her
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: mom and saying, I'm mortified. I can't believe I just
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: called nine one one three different times and nothing came
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of any of these calls, Like, I feel so embarrassed
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: about it, and her mom, being a good mom, told her,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: you know it, don't worry about it. No one got
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: hurt in the process, so it's all good. And so
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Kaylen moves past it, and on the call with her mom,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: she starts talking about what she's going to do that day.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: She says, well, I'm looking to update my resume and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: submit it to a couple different job openings, and I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: also want to clean up my apartment. And so they
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: hang up the phone and everything seems normal again. But
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: at about five forty five pm that night, Kaylan, along
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: with her beloved little dog named Phyllis that apparently she
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: took everywhere with her, were seen exiting the condo and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: walking out to the parking lot behind their building. Kaylan
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: was barefoot, was only wearing a tank top and shorts,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that it was cold and raining, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: as soon as she puts her dog down because she
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: was holding her dog in her arm, Caylan begins having
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: this totally animated discussion, except there's no one there for
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: her to be talking to. About fifteen minutes later, she
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and her dog turn around and walk back towards the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: condo complex, out of view of a camera, but residents
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: would say they saw her crying and going up to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a gate that lets you back into the condo and
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: she apparently couldn't open it, And as she's standing there struggling,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: she suddenly stops, puts her dog down, turns and starts
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: running away, And the camera footage we have of her
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is only when she's back in the parking lot, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: she's running away still and the dog is nowhere to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: be found. Her beloved dog, she's abandoned. She's got no phone,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: no wallet, and nobody knows where she's going. Later that night,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: when Kayln's family could not get in touch with her
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: because of all the weirdness around those nine to one
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: one calls, her family just had a bad feeling about it,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and so they filed an official missing person report that night.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: When police arrived at the condo complex, the first thing
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: they did is they reviewed the security footage and they
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: already knew about her three nine to one one calls
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that had happened within twenty four hours, and all of
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: them had been for unfounded reasons. And they see Kaylin
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: on camera barefoot in a tank top and shorts in
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the rain, and she's having this animated discussion with nobody
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: before running around and running away. And so police go
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: to Kaylan's family and they say, does your daughter have
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a drug problem? Is she mentally ill? And her family
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: tells the police, no, she's got no history of mental illness.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: She definitely does not have a drug addiction because of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: what happened to her brother, And they explain what happened
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: with Colton and how that had a tremendous impact on
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: her and how that had actually sent her on a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: course to help people with mental illness. Or people who
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: were fighting against addiction or depression, and they explained how
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: she was just really well adjusted and everything seemed okay
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: until these nine to one to one calls started and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: now this so this huge search is launched between the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: police and volunteers, and actually the Louder family even hired
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: some private investigators to help them look for Kaylin. But
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: days turned into weeks and there was no leads, No
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: one knew where she was. She just vanished. Then on
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: December first, ten weeks after she went missing, city workers
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: were inspecting drainage pipes down near the Jordan River, which
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: was a river that went by her apartment, and they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: discovered behind some plants a body that was half submerged,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: and it would turn out to be Kaylin's. They pull
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: her out of the water and no cause of death
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: could be accurately determined because of how long she had
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: been in the water for It looked like she had
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: been in there for probably all of the ten weeks
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: she had been missing. They were able to determine that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: there were no drugs in her system and there was
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: no water in her lungs, which meant she didn't drown.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Her body was found five miles from where her apartment was,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and so initial speculation was she must have gotten hurt
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and fallen into this river and drifted the five miles
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: downstream to where she was found. But they looked at
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that section of the river between her apartment and where
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: she was found, and the water was simply too shallow
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and windy and it would not have been possible for
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a human body to travel that distance, which means almost
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: immediately after she ran off screen on the security footage,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: she covered those five miles, wound up at that section
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of the Jordan River, died and then fell in the water,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: or fell in the water and then died, but not
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: via drowning. The police officially ruled Kaylin's death an accident,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: but her family disagrees. They say, if you look really
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: closely at the security footage right before she runs way,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it looks like she's terrified. More specifically, it looks like
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: she's terrified of someone we can't see on camera when
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: she's having that animated discussion where it looks like she's
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: talking to no one, further feeding the idea that she
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: had kind of lost it. Well, there's this huge rock
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to the right in the video that kind of obscures
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: our view, and behind that is this huge forest, and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it is theoretically possible that someone could be back there
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that we can't see. But no matter what, her family
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: believes that whatever she was doing in her final moments
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on camera is the key to understanding why she ran
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: off and ultimately died. So you be the judge. Was
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: this a psychotic break or is there something more? As
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: many of you may know. Aside from telling stories on
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: this YouTube channel, I also tell stories on my flagship podcast,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the Mister Ballin Podcast Strange, Dark and Mysterious Stories. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: in addition to that podcast, we over at Ballin Studios
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: actually have a whole slate of other incredible, strange, dark,
• 23:04
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• 23:08
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• 23:12
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• 23:15
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• 23:18
  Speaker 1: far better radio voice tell you a story, like Luke LEHMANA.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Luke has two podcasts under the Ballin Studios umbrella. One
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: is called Wartime Stories, which sort of mirrors what he
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: does on YouTube, also called Wartime Stories. It's like the strange,
• 23:31
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• 23:34
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• 23:38
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• 23:42
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• 23:45
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• 23:49
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• 23:53
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• 23:56
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• 24:00
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• 24:02
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• 24:05
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• 24:08
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• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for new episodes. In mid August twenty thirteen, Mike and
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Karen lost Pizza helped their beloved only child, nineteen year
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: old bryceless Pisa get all of his things packed up
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and into the family car. Bryce had just spent the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: summer with his parents in their home in Laguna Neguel, California,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: which is one of the nicest places to live in
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the entire country. But now that the summer was coming
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to an end, it was time for Bryce to head
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: back to Sierra College in Rockland, California, where he was
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: set to start his sophomore year. Once all of his
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: things were packed inside the trunk of the car, all
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: three of them hopped inside and then made the seven
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: hour drive north to his campus. Once his parents had
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: moved him into his apartment, they gave him a hug
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and a kiss and wished him luck, and then they left.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: On their ride back home, Mike and Karen talked about
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: how well their son seemed to be doing. He loved
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: his school, he loved the program he was in. He
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was in graphic design. He was a very gifted artist.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: He had lots of friends, he had a wonderful girlfriend.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: It just seemed like he was living his best life
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and he was on the path to success. So nothing
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: could prepare them for what their son did. Two weeks later,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just a couple of days after getting dropped off at school,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Bryce's very close friend and roommate, Sean and Bryce's girlfriend
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Kim noticed Bryce was acting erradically. Specifically, he was drinking
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a ton of hard alcohol. Now Bryce was no saint,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: he liked to drink and party like many other kids
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: his age did, but the amount of alcohol he was
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: consuming was concerning. Also, Bryce began experimenting with a drug
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: called Vance, which is a very powerful stimulant that's normally
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: used to treat attention deficit disorder. Now Bryce didn't have
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: attention deficit disorder. He was taking it in order to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: stay up late at night and play video games. But
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: between the heavy drinking and the drug use, it seemed
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: like Bryce's personality was starting to change. He was becoming
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: anxious and skittish and kind of paranoid. And so finally
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Sean and Kim confronted him about his substance abuse and
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: asked him, you know, like, what's going on, what's causing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you to act this way? And Bryce would say nothing, guys,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm just you know, drinking and doing whatever
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I want to do. It's not a big deal. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Shawn and Kim they weren't buying it. They were convinced
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that something bad had happened to Bryce and the way
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: he was coping with it was by drinking really heavily
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and taking this drug. On August twenty eighth, so about
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: two weeks after Bryce has been dropped back off at
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: school by his parents, Bryce and his roommate Seawan were
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: alone in their apartment together and at some point, as
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: they're sitting there just kind of mining their own business,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Bryce says to Sean, hey, I want to give you something,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and he takes his diamond earrings out and he gives
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: them to Sean. And Shawn's looking at these earrings and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: he's like, you know, didn't your mom give these to you?
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Aren't these important to you? These are expensive? And Bryce
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: just says no, I want you to have them. And
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: so Sewan is looking at these earrings, looking back at Bryce,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: wondering what's going on here, And then before he can
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: even refuse the gift, Bryce is grabbing his Xbox and
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: putting it on the table and telling Sean I want
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you to have this too, Take my xbox, and so
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Sewan is like, I can't accept these two things. These
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: are expensive, these are valuable to you. You know what's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: going on here. But Bryce would just say, look, man,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I want you to have these things. You're important to me,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: and I want to give these to you. And so,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: as Seawan is sitting there wondering how to handle this
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: very strange offering, he watched Bryce pull his phone out
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: and begin really aggressively texting somebody. And then after a while,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Bryce looks up from his phone and he tells Sean, Hey,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: just so you know, I broke up with Kim. At
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: this point, Sean knows, okay, something is definitely wrong here.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: There's no reason Bryce would break up with Kim. They
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: were such a loving couple. They doted on each other,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they were very close, they had just seen each other
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: earlier in the day. Nothing seemed to be wrong, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: so now Bryce is text breaking up with her. It
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. Plus Bryce is now trying to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: give him all these valuable things. It just wasn't really
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: adding up. And so Sean undecided he needed to get
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in touch with Bryce's parents because clearly someone needed to intervene,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and so Sean waited until Bryce left. Bryce actually left
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to go talk to Kim, and at that point Seawan
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: got his phone out and he looked up Bryce's parents
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and he called them. Bryce's mother, Karen. She picks up
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the phone and Sean explains that, you know your son,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: he's acting strangely. He's abusing drugs and alcohol, and I
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing this unless I thought there was a problem, Like,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get him in trouble. I want
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you to reach out to him and see what's going on,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: because I think there's a problem. And so Karen was
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: alarmed by this. She had no idea any of this
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was going on, and she says, okay, now I'll reach
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: out to my son. Thank you for telling me, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: so they hang up, and before Karen can even call Bryce,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Bryce is calling her, and so Karen answers the phone,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but it's not Bryce, it's Kim, his now ex girlfriend,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and she says to Karen, Hey, I'm sorry to just
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: call you like this, but your son he just showed
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: up at my apartment and he's acting so strangely that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I actually took his keys. I don't want him to drive.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: There's something wrong with him. It's hard to describe, but
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: he just seems totally off. And so now Karen's really
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: concerned because just seconds ago, Sean has told her basically
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the same thing, and so Karen asked, Kim, would you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: please put my son on the phone. Bryce picks up
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the phone and he says, hey, Mom, and he sounds
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: totally normal, and she asks him, you know what's going on?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I keep hearing that you're acting strangely and you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: what are you doing over at Kim's apartment? What's going
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: on here? And Bryce would tell his mom that, look, mom,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I just broke up with Kim. It's a very messy breakup.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: That's why she's calling you. She's upset, and you know
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm over here. We're talking about it. And look,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: at this point, I just really want to go home.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to my apartment, but she
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: has my keys. Can you please tell her to give
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: me my car keys back so I can leave? But
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Karen wasn't really buying it. She knew her son really well,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and it just seemed totally strange that two of his
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: very close friends and his inner circle would say the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: same thing independent of one another. And so she says,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you know what, Bryce, Look, I want you to just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: stay there and I'm going to fly out there first
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: thing tomorrow morning, and I'm gonna just see what's going
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: on out there. And at this Bryce immediately says, no, Mom,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I have a lot to talk to you about, and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: until I talk to you about, I don't want you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: coming out here. And so Karen's like, what do you
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: mean you have a lot to talk to me about.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: What is it that you have to talk to me about?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I don't really understand. But Bryce refused to elaborate over
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: the phone, which Karen thought was very odd because Bryce
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: was remarkably forthcoming with his parents that had a very
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: open relationship. They were very honest with each other. So
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: for him to not even give a hint at whatever
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: it was that was on his mind that in some
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: way had to do with what was going on here,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it just seemed very odd and unnecessarily cryptic. And so
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Karen gave up trying to get more information out of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: her son, and instead she put her husband on the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: phone and he asked, Bryce, Hey, you know what's going
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on here? You okay? And your mom tells me there's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: some problem, like what's going on here? And Bryce again
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: just reiterates, look, dad, I just broke up with my girlfriend.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: That's all. That's going on here, there's no need to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: be concerned. I just need one of you to tell
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Kim to give me my keys back so I can
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: go back to my apartment. That's all I need right now.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And so Mike felt convinced that his son was totally fine,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: even though it did seem odd that two of his
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: friends had said he was acting erratically. But for my perspective,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Bryce seemed just fine. And so he said as much
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to Karen and thought, you know, let's just get Kim
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to give him his keys back and he can go
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: back to his apartment and we can talk to him
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: later about whatever it is that's going on. And so
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: reluctantly Karen gets back on the phone and she asks
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to speak with Kim, and she says, hey, Kim, would
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you mind giving our son his keys back? He'd like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to leave, And so Kim says, okay, I'll give him
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: his keys, and then they hung up, and then Kim
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: got the keys out, she gave him to Bryce, and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Bryce left. At about eleven thirty pm that night, Bryce
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: was in his car he was getting ready to leave
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: when his mom called him back and said, okay, look,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I want you to go home. But as soon as
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you get there, just give me a call so I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: know you're safe, and Bryce said, no problem, I'll give
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: you a call. About an hour and a half later,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: at one am, Bryce called his mom back to let
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: her know that he was home safe at his apartment,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and Karen and Mike are totally relieved and they tell
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: their son, Okay, you know, we'll talk to you tomorrow morning.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Ten hours later, at eleven am on August twenty ninth,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Karen received an automated phone call from her car insurance
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: company letting her know that roadside assistance had been used
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: on their two thousand and read Toyota Highland or car
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that was Bryce's car, And so Karen's totally confused because
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the last she spoke to her son, he was at
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: his apartment. He was home safe, he did not have
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: any car problems, and so she's thinking, you know, did
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: he get up early this morning and get into an
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: accident and call roadside assistance, or maybe last night he
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: got into car problems and just didn't tell her about it,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: but they were minor, And so she calls Bryce, but
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Bryce doesn't pick up, and so she dials his roommate
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Sean Sean does answer the phone and she says, hey,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: would you mind putting Bryce on the line, But Sean says,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Bryce isn't here and he didn't come home last night.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Considering the general weirdness around their son's recent behavior, this
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: really shocked Karen and Mike. At first, they thought, we
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: need to call the police because something horrible has happened.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But then they thought, well, wait a minute, let's go
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: into his bank statements because he has a credit card
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that we gave him, and let's see if there's any
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: recent purchases that will allow us to track where he is.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And so they pull up his bank statements and his
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: most recent charge was only a few hours earlier, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: it was at a car repair shop in Button Willow, California,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: which is the small desert town right off of the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I five Highway, located about halfway between his school campus
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and their hometown in Laguna Neguel. And so Karen and
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Mike assume their son last night must not have gone
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to his apartment but instead just kept on driving south
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: in an attempt to drive all the way back home
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to his hometown of Laguna Nicel. I mean, after all,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: he did tell his mom he had a lot to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: talk about, and he didn't want to talk about it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: on the phone, and so they assumed he must be
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: driving here to talk about whatever it was in person.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: And perhaps he ran into some car problems in Button Willow, California.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: That's why he pulled over. That's why there's this charge
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: at this auto repair shop. And so Karen calls the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: auto repair shop in Button Willow and a man who
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: worked there named Christian answered the phone, and so Karen
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: asked him, you know, have you seen my son. He's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: got red hairr he's got a tattoo in his arm.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: He's driving a two thousand and three Toyota Highlander. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Christian says, oh, yeah, yeah, we saw him a couple
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: hours ago. We responded to his roadside assistance call. He
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: ran out of gas on the I five Highway. He
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: pulled into a rest stop and we drove to that
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: rest stop and we gave him gas, and so Karen
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: asked Christian, you know, did my son indicate where he
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: was going next? And Christian said, no, he didn't. We
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: just gave him the gas and then we left. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: if you'd like, I'd be more than happy to just
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: drive over to the rest stop. It's only about fifteen
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: minutes away and see if he's still there. It's unlikely
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: because it's been a couple of hours, but you know, maybe,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And Karen and Mike are like, oh my gosh, thank
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you so much. Would you do that? That would be great.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: And so Christian hops in his car and he drives
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: the fifteen minutes over to this rest stop and he's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: not really expecting to see Bryce in this parking lot.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It had been almost three hours. But he pulls into
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the lot and there is the two thousand and three
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Toyota Highlander with Bryce sitting inside of it. He's just
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: sitting behind the wheels, staring out into nothingness. And so
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Christian walks up to the driver's side and he looks
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: down to get Bryce's attention, and Bryce kind of snaps
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: out of it and looks up and he's surprised to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: see Christian again. He rolls the window down and Christian
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: says to him, Hey, I just talked to your parents.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: They're really concerned about you. You got to talk to him.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: And so Christian actually pulls out his phone and he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: calls Karen and says, hey, he is still here. Here
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he is, and he hands the phone to Bryce, and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: as soon as Bryce puts the phone to his ear
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and he says, hello, Karen's like, what are you doing?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? Just sitting in this rest stop
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in the middle of Button Willow, California. We're so worried
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: about you. And Bryce didn't really have an answer. He
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: just kept telling his mom, I'm not doing anything, I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here. And so finally his mom stops
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: trying to get information from him and just says, look,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: please just fill your car up with gas and comes
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: straight home, please, And Bryce says, okay, yeah, that's what
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I'll do. I'll do that right now, and so Bryce
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: hands the phone back to Christian. Christian pulls it up
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to his ear and he says, hey, Karen, it looks
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: like he's leaving now, so I'm going to take off.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Karen thanks him, and they hang up. Christian goes back
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: into his car. He leaves the lot, and as he's driving,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: he looks over at Bryce and it didn't really look
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: like Bryce was getting ready to leave. It looked like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: he had just gone back to sitting and blankly staring
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: out of his car. But Christian figured, you know what,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: he just talked to his mom. He said he was
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: going to go home. I'm sure that's what he's going
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: to do. The drive from Button Willow, California, south to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Laguna Neguel, California, where Bryce's parents were, was about a
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: three hour trip, and so those pizzas were expecting their
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: son to arrive around three pm. By three point thirty pm,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: when he still hadn't shown up and he still hadn't called,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Karen began calling her son, but he wasn't answering the phone.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And as much as Karen and Mike wanted to believe
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: their son had just gotten stuck in traffic or something
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like that, they knew deep down something was wrong, something
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was off about his behavior. They just didn't understand what
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it was. For the next several hours, they continuously tried
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: calling their son and he never answered the phone. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: so finally, by six pm that night, when he still
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: hadn't shown up and they still couldn't get in touch
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: with him, they called the police and they filed an
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: official missing person report. The police began their search by
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: contacting Bryce's cell phone provider AT and T, and they
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: asked them to use their cell phone towers to ping
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Bryce's cell phone basically triangulate where his phone is located.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: And once they did that and they had the actual
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: location of his phone, the police and Bryce's parents were
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: shocked at where it was. It was still in Buttonwillow, California.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It was located just a couple of miles down the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: road from that rest stop where Christian had last seen Bryce.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It was now in this parking lot of this hotel.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And so the police around Button Willow were alerted to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the fact that Bryce was a missing person and his
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: phone was apparently in this parking lot, and so police
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: were sent over there to see if Bryce was there too.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: And so the police arrived in this hotel parking lot
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and sure enough, right in the middle is the two
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: thousand and three Toyota Highlander with Bryce sitting behind the wheel,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: just sitting there, staring out the front. And so an
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: officer walks up and he knocks on the glass and
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Bryce rolls the window down, and the officer would say,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Bryce acted totally normally. He was friendly, he was lucid,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: He answered all their questions when he got out of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the car, and they conducted field sobriety tests, he passed
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: all of them. He even said, Hey, if you want
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to search my car, go for it. I'm not doing
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: anything out here. And so the officers did search his
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: car and there were no drugs, no alcohol, there was
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: nothing suspicious in his car. And when they asked him,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: you know, what are you doing out here? Your parents
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: are so concerned about you, Bryce would tell them that
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he was just sitting there. He didn't really have much
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: of an answer, but he told them he planned on
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: going home soon. And so one of the officers said
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: to him, hey, you really need to call your mom.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: You need to call home and let them know that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you're okay. And when they told him to do that,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Bryce suddenly became really apprehensive, like he did not want
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to call home. And the officer picked up on it
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and he said, hey, you got to tell your family
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: what's going on. They're the reason we're out here. They're
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: concerned about you. So get out your phone and dial
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: your mom. And so Bryce reluctantly pulled his phone out.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: He dialed his mother's number and he hit call and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the officer said, give me the phone. So Bryce hands
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: over the phone, the officer picks it up. Karen answers
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the phone, and the officer tells her, Hey, look, I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: with your son. He's just fine. He's sober. There's no drugs,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: there's no alcohol. I don't really know what he's doing.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: But he says he's going to go home pretty soon.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: But there's nothing wrong about the situation that I can tell.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You need to talk to your son and figure out
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: what's going on. And so he hands the phone over
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to Bryce. Bryce picks it up, and Karen says to him,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Why are you still in Button Willow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It's been like nine hours. And Bryce really didn't give
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: her an answer to any of her questions. He just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: kind of deflected all of them and said he'd be
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: home soon and don't worry about it. I'm just sitting here.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: There's nothing to worry about. And so finally Karen just
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: stopped trying to pull information out of her son. She
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: could tell that again he was not going to tell
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: her what's going on, and so she changed her tactic
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and she told her son very gently, Bryce, please just
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: go get a bite to eat, get a cup of coffee,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: kind of get yourself together here, and then please just
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: drive home. It's only a few hours away. Drive home
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and we can talk about whatever problems you have, but
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you just got to drive home. You got to leave
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Button Willow. You've got to come home. And at this
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Bryce says to his mom, you know what, Okay, I'm sorry.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I'll be home in a few hours. And so they
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: hang up and the officer who was kind of eavesdropping
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: intentionally on this conversation to make sure everything was fine.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: The officer was satisfied that everything was fine, that Bryce
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: was sober that he would head home, and so he says, okay, Bryce,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: you know, best of luck, head home to your parents,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and the officer left. An hour later, Karen received a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: call from Christian, the car repairman who had checked on
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Bryce earlier, and he was actually returning one of Karen's calls.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: She'd called him sometime and he didn't get back to her,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and so he was calling back and he wanted to know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you know, had Bryce made it home safely, because now
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: it's been several hours from when he saw him last.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And Karen would tell Christian, actually, no, after you left,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: my son did not leave Button Willow. He just went
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: down the road to a parking lot. But you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the police actually were just over there that checked on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: him and now I'm certain he's making his way home. Christian,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: who felt kind of invested in what was happening with Bryce,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: would say to Karen, hey, I don't mind driving over
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: there and just confirming he has left this parking lot.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: But Karen would say, you know what, I'm confident he's
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: on his way. Don't worry about it. You're too kind.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: So they hang up, and afterwards, Christian, even though he
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: didn't have to, he decides, I'm going to go over
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: there and make sure Bryce really has left, because obviously
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: something strange is going on here, and you know, if
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: there is some problem, maybe I can assist. And so
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he drives over to this hotel parking lot and he
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: really was not expecting to see Bryce there. But he
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: pulls into the lot and who's still in the middle
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of the lot but Bryce in his two thousand and
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: three Toyota Highlander, just staring out the front of his car.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And so this time Christian pulls up right next to him.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: He parks the car, he walks right up to the window,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and he's a little bit more forceful, friendly, but forceful
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: with Bryce. He has n't rolled the window down, and
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Bryce obviously is very surprised to see Christian against the
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: third time he's seen this car repairman, and Christian says
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to him, Hey, Bryce, you need to go home. Your
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: parents are so worried about you. You need to leave
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: right now. In fact, I'm gonna watch you leave and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna follow you onto the highway to make
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: sure you're going home. And so Bryce was a little
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: bit taken aback and how forceful he was being, but
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: he would ultimately say, okay, yeah, all right, let's leave.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And so Christian gets back in his car and he
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: goes right behind Bryce, and after a few seconds, Bryce
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: pulls out of the lot and he starts driving onto
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the road, and Christian follows him. And for the next hour,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Christian would just remain behind Bryce and watch him drive
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: towards Laguna Negal And while he was driving, Christian would
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: actually call Karen and Mike back and he would say
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to them that your son had not left. But now
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: he's good. He's on the highway. I'm right behind him.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: He'll be home soon. And so when Christian and Bryce
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: made it to the last leg on the way to
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Laguna Noguel, Christian was confident that Bryce was fine and
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: he would get home under his own steam. He wasn't
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: driving erradically. Everything seemed normal, and so Christian pulled up
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: alongside Bryce. He kind of waved to him to say,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm leaving, and then he turned around and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: he headed back to Button Willow. Shortly after this, Karen
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: called Bryce. Bryce picked up the phone. He's still driving,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and Karen tells him, Okay, you're gonna give me landmarks
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of the things you're seeing as you're driving, so that
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I know you're actually driving home. But Bryce refused to
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: give them to her. He would say, oh, I can't
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: see anything out my window. It's too dark, and I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: don't know where anything is. And so despite Karen and
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Mike getting so frustrated with him saying, come on, tell
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: us something, give us a sign, a roadside anything, tell
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: us anything around you, Bryce didn't give them any information.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And so finally, at about two am, when Bryce really
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: should have been in Laguna Noguel or very close, he
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: tells his parents over the phone that he's too tired
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to continue inn he needs to pull over and take
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a nap. At first, his parents urged him to just
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: keep on going, come home, you can sleep as long
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: as you want when you get here. But as they
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: were saying it, they realized their son had been awake
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: for nearly twenty four hours at this point, and it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the middle of the night, so it does kind of
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: make sense for him to pull over and take a nap,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and so they say, okay, pull over, but as soon
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: as you wake up, you need to call us so
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: we know you're back on the road. So Bryce says,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: no problem, I'll do that and they hang up. Several
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: hours later, at eight am, Karen and Mike have still
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: not heard from their son, and they're telling themselves that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: he's probably just sleeping. He's totally exhausted. I'm sure he's fine.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: And then they hear their doorbell ring and they're immediately
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: so relieved because they're thinking Bryce is here. He's finally arrived.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness. They run to the door, they open it
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: up and it's not Bryce. It's a police officer. And
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the officer asked them do you own a two thousand
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and three Toyota Highlander car? And so Mike and Karen's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: heart sank and they say, yes, our son, Bryce drives
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that car. The officer told them that the car had
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: been located a few hours earlier at the bottom of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a twenty five foot cliff near Castaic Lake. Castaic Lake
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: is about halfway between Button Willow and Laguna Aguel. They
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: told the parents that there was no sign of a driver.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Bryce was not there. They did find two small drops
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: of blood inside the vehicle, but beyond that, there was
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: no indication that Bryce had sustained life threatening injuries from
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: this crash. They said the back window of the vehicle
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: had been broken from the inside, indicating that Bryce had
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: escaped the wreck by punching out that window. His laptop
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and phone were still in the vehicle, and his wallet
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and duffel bag were outside the vehicle on the road
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and looked like they had been rummaged through before they
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: were left there. After an examination of the damage to
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the car, of the final tire tracks that led down
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to where it had been found, and traffic cameras in
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the area, it was concluded that Bryce had actually intentionally
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: driven off this cliff, and he had actually hit the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: accelerator right before he went over the edge. After Mike
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: and Karen headed out to the crash scene and had
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a chance to talk to some of the investigators that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: had been looking for Bryce. They informed the parents that
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: most likely what they were looking at with this crash
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: was a failed suicide attempt. But Mike and Karen they
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: just couldn't buy that. That was not like their son.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: And just two weeks earlier when they dropped him off,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: he was happy, He was excited to be at school.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: He was talking about the future. He was not someone
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that was suicidal. And so what situation could he have
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: possibly gotten himself into in just those two weeks that
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: was so bad it would lead to something like this.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It made investigators and the parents wonder, you know, was
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Bryce hiding something? What did he mean when he said
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: he had a lot to talk about? Did that have
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: something to do with this thing he was hiding? A
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: huge search was launched in and around the area where
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the car had been found, with hundreds of people on horseback,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: on atv, on foot. There were helicopters in the air,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: they put divers in the lake. I mean, they looked
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: everywhere for days and days and days, but nothing was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: found of Bryce. On the ninth day of the search,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: they brought a bloodhound out to see if he could
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: pick up Bryce's scent, and sure enough, that did right
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: at the crash site, and the dog followed the scent
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: all the way down to the lake. It walked around
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the lake to this bridge. It was actually a dam
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: that went across the lake. It followed his scent right
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: across the bridge to the other side, and then it
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: kept on following it up this small access road until
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it reached a truck stop and then a scent just stopped.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And so police and the parents and everyone involved in
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: this investigation was really surprised at this discovery. And so
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: police got another bloodhound, a separate bloodhound. They brought it
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: out to see if it could do the same thing,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to prove that this really was his scent trail. And
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: sure enough, the bloodhound picked up his scent and it
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: went down to the lake and went around to the bridge,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: went over, went to the truck stop, and then it
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: just stopped. But after the cent trail was discovered, there
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: was no other leads for anyone to follow, and so
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: after three weeks of looking everywhere for Bryce, the search
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: was called off. Some say Bryce was suicidal, that's why
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: he drove off the cliff. That was a suicide attempt.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: And despite the bloodhounds picking up the scent, Bryce was
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: most likely in the lake somewhere. Others disagree and say
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Bryce is still alive, that after this crash, he gets
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: out of the car and he walks down to the lake,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: he walks around to that bridge, he goes up to
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the truck stop, and then he hitches a ride with
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: someone and vanishes. And now he's living off the grid somewhere.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: And still others believe Bryce's drug and alcohol use caused
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a psychotic break and that was what was causing all
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: this strange behavior, and that was what led him to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: drive off the cliff, and perhaps when he landed, he
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: sustained a vicious head wound that caused him to forget
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: who he was. And so now he's just kind of
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: wandering around somewhere, not knowing who he is or knowing
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that he's a missing person. As for his parents, they say,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: he would never do this on purpose. He would never
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: cause this much pain to the people that love him,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and so he must have been a victim of foul play.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: But regardless of what you believe happened to Bryce, something
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: happened to him, and it's probably connected to whatever it was.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: He said he needed to talk to his mom about
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that thing. That he couldn't discuss in the phone that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: potentially he was trying to drive home to talk to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: his mom and dad in person about But unless we
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: find Bryce Andy's still alive, it's unlikely we'll ever know
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: what it was. Since August thirtieth, twenty thirteen, when Bryce
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: went missing, no one has heard from him and no
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: one has seen him. If you think you have information
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: about bryceless Pisa, please call this number now. Let them
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: know what you know. Because his parents volunteers the police,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: There's so many people still looking for him, and so
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: any bit of information could crack this case. So please,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: if you have information, call this number below. In nineteen
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: eighty four, nineteen year old Timothy Molnar was living at
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: home with his parents in Daytona Beach, Florida, while going
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to school for aeronautical mathematics. On January twenty fourth, Timothy
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: gets up and begins his day just like every other
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: day of the work week, by going downstairs, having a
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: bite to eat, and then taking his younger brother, Frank
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: to school. Once he dropped Frank off, he drove across
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: town to his university where he had class. As he parked,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: he realized he had forgotten his bike, and that was
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: something he'd brought with him everywhere, and so before class started,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: he went back home, he got his bike, put it
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: in his car, turned around and headed out, and his
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: mother would step outside and see him trailing away down
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the road, and that was the last time she, or
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: anybody in their family for that matter, saw him alive.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: That night, when Tim didn't come home, his family called
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: the police. The police asked them, you know, is there
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: any reason he would want to run away? Is he
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: in trouble? Is there anything going on? And his family's
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: like no, He's a straight a student, he's got lots
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: of friends, he's super happy, he's well adjusted, he's on
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a great career path. There's nothing in his life to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: indicate that he would want to run away or that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: he's in trouble. I know, he doesn't drink or do drugs.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: There's really nothing. So the police begin their investigation, and
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: they start by looking at the family's credit card bills,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: because they knew Tim had a credit card that was
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: connected to the family account, and they found there had
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: been a charge placed the same day he had gone
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: missing in a gas station about one hundred and fifty
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: miles away, and so the police go out to this
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: gas station and they find someone that had been there
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: when Tim was there, and he was able to describe
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: exactly what he looked like, what his car looked like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and the police asked him, you know, was Tim alone,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and the witness says, yeah, he was alone. He was
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: acting totally normal. I saw him go into the store
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and then I saw him come back out again, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that was it. I don't know where he went after
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: the gas station. So for the next couple of days,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: nothing really happened. There were no leads to operate on,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and Tim wasn't getting in touch with them, so they
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: just waited. Then on January thirtieth, so about a week
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: after Tim has gone missing, Tim's family receives a letter
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: from an auto inpound company in Atlanta, Georgia, and the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: letter basically says, there is a car that's sitting in
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: our lot that is registered to your house. You need
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to come out here and get it. And so the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: family goes to Atlanta, Georgia to inspect the car and
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: they walk up to it and there's nothing suspicious about it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: There's no scratches on it, the tires are all fully inflated.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: They look inside and there's no sign of a struggle.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: There's no blood, there's no debris of any kind. But
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: what they would find inside the car were Tim's credit cards,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: his wallet, his license, and other items, suggesting that perhaps
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Tim is trying to ditch his old identity and start
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a new one. They also noticed a few very expensive
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: items that they knew were always in his car were
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: now missing. His car stereo, his toolbox, and his bike.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Tim's family stayed in Atlanta for a couple of days,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: thinking maybe Tim will return to this car, but after
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a couple of days it was clear that they weren't
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: doing any good sitting there, so they went back to Florida.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: When they got back, they looked inside of Tim's room
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit more closely, and they discovered that none
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: of his clothes had been taken. There was no suitcase taken.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: It was like he left with just the clothes on
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: his back. They also checked his savings account and he
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: had taken all the money out but left ten dollars
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: in there. And the family believed that by leaving that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: ten dollars, what he was really saying is I'm going
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: to come back someday. But he didn't come back and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: they never ever heard about him again. It was like
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: he just vanished. A decade after tim went missing, the
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: TV show Unsolved Mysteries aired a segment about Timothy and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: his disappearance in hopes that the viewers would be able
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to give them some information about the case, and sure enough,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: a man named Stephen Kull, who was living in Wisconsin
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: called into the show and said, without a doubt, I
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: know where Timothy is. He told them this story about
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: how ten years earlier he was walking around this forested
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: area in Wisconsin when he came to a clearing in
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the middle of this forest and he saw this lump
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the ground. He didn't know what
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: it was. It was winter times, who couldn't tell if
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it was wood or an animal. And he walked up
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to it and he looked down and he realized there
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: was this huge block of ice. And when he brushed
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the snow off the top, he couldn't believe what he
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: was seeing. Inside of this huge block of ice is
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the dead body of a young man. Cal would immediately
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: call the police, who would show up. They would get
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the body out of the ice, but there was no
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: identifying information on him, and he was very badly decomposed
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: at this point, and so they had no way to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: identify him, and so he was buried and he was unclaimed.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: But from the second Steve saw that dead body in
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the ice, that image was seared into his mind. And
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: so when the TV show Unsolved Mysteries put a picture
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: of Tim up on the screen saying, if you've seen
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: this guy, let us know, Steven's like, oh my gosh,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I recognize those clothes. That's the guy who was dead
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: in the ice block. And so the police go to Wisconsin,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: they dig up the body that was inside of the ice,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: They do a DNA test and sure enough, it's Tim Mulner.
• 53:16
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• 53:20
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• 53:23
  Speaker 1: body none. However, they weren't able to determine a cause
• 53:26
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• 53:29
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• 53:33
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  Speaker 1: Within a few hours of Detective May's arrival, the Waytaga
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: County Sheriff had already made a call to the North
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  Speaker 1: Carolina State Bureau of Investigation asking for help, and not
• 55:01
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't until after the scene was photographed, sketched, and
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  Speaker 1: and after one small scoop of snow at a time
• 55:22
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• 55:25
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• 55:28
  Speaker 1: underneath the mound of snow. The bare skin of the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: man's back was frozen to the ground. His wide open
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: mouth showed a set of straight white teeth. In his
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: left temple, just below the line of dark hair that
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: still covered what was left of his scalp, investigators could
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: see a clearly defined circle where a bullet had been
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: fired into his skull, and on the right side of
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the man's neck there was a second bullet hole. There
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: was no sign anywhere of the man's clothes and no
• 55:56
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• 55:59
  Speaker 1: body was not completely stripped. On the man's left wrist
• 56:02
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• 56:05
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• 56:12
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• 56:15
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