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Bonus Episode: My Summer Listening, Reading, Watching Recs And More · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little thing we
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  Speaker 1: like to call the after party. This is the show
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  Speaker 1: after the show, the party after the party, the bridge
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  Speaker 1: to get you from one full episode of Disgraceland to
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  Speaker 1: the other. The backyard, to dig into the dirt, our
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  Speaker 1: mission to uncover the truth, to confront the myth, to
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  Speaker 1: reclaim the story. On this bonus episode, I'm giving you
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  Speaker 1: my summer recommendations music, movies, books, television, a celebrated summer,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak. We are also catching up with our
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  Speaker 1: recent episode on Dolly Parton, previewing next week's news story
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  Speaker 1: on Slipknot, where you'll find out about a darkness that
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  Speaker 1: was unfolding in the myth of the band's success, and
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  Speaker 1: we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as always
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosie. This is the podcast for
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  Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know
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  Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told,
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  Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All right, discos,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it all right. The World Cup is over.
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  Speaker 1: England broke my heart in many others as well, So
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  Speaker 1: let's just move on, all right, okay, real quick, though,
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  Speaker 1: England not being in the finals is more of a
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  Speaker 1: loss for rock and roll than it was for England.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I like to look at it. Anyhow, it
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  Speaker 1: is summertime, discos, so I thought that I would do
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  Speaker 1: a public service for you all in the after party
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  Speaker 1: today and give you some of my summer recommendations. Books, records,
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  Speaker 1: movie shows that I've been consuming, content that I have
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  Speaker 1: consumed in the past. All of that appropriate summer fair
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  Speaker 1: nothing too heavy. All right, we're gonna keep this stuff tight.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna keep this stuff light ish, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: it's still disgraceland. See you get the point. There's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some darkness. This is the stuff that's meant though,
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  Speaker 1: to be right on the beach, in a plane, at
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  Speaker 1: the hotel, or at the airbnb wherever. First up Shindler's List. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm tempted to recommend the film that I
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  Speaker 1: watched last night, Bradley Cooper's Is This Thing On? Because
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  Speaker 1: it is incredible Will Arnett, Laura Dern, Bradley Cooper's in it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's mainly his film because he directed it. He's
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  Speaker 1: got a small part in the movie. He's great, he
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  Speaker 1: steals the show as always. But this movie's also a
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  Speaker 1: tear fest, and that's not what we're doing today. We're
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  Speaker 1: doing summer movies, okay, in summer music, and summer books
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  Speaker 1: and summer TV series. So I'm gonna start with music,
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  Speaker 1: because this is, after all, a music podcast, and so
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  Speaker 1: may I direct your attention to the New Day Rising
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  Speaker 1: album from Day Rih album from nineteen eighty five by
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  Speaker 1: Minneapolis's Hoosker Do. This record is a great record, start
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  Speaker 1: to finish, legit, no skips. But that's not why I'm
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  Speaker 1: recommending it. I'm recommending it because ever since TV snack
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  Speaker 1: Break made that Instagram meme of this album cover, the
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  Speaker 1: New Day Rising album cover photoshopped with a still from Seinfeld,
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  Speaker 1: the one where George George Costanza is lurking on the
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  Speaker 1: beach behind his boss, mister Kroger's family and what was
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  Speaker 1: presumably the Summer of George. I think that's what one
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  Speaker 1: episode that was. I could be wrong and then put Costanza. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what the artist TV snack Break did. He put
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  Speaker 1: Costanza in the iconic Hoosker Doo font with Kroger Day
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  Speaker 1: Rising beneath it, obviously a spoof on Hohosker Doo's New
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  Speaker 1: Day Rising. I have been blasting this album through the
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  Speaker 1: speakers here in my studio for the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: It's just incredible. I've loved this album since I was
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years old. I've never gotten sick of it, and
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  Speaker 1: specifically the song Celebrated Summer, which is just a perfect
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  Speaker 1: pop song. It's one of those who skarodoo songs that
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  Speaker 1: the punk rock purists hated, at least when I was
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  Speaker 1: a kid. They hated it kids in my neighborhood who
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  Speaker 1: were punks. It was just so catchy and it was poppy,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, and dare I say, sentimental, But it's
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  Speaker 1: the good kind of sentimental. It's kind of the only
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  Speaker 1: kind of sentimental who skardoos Bob world does, meaning that
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  Speaker 1: the sentimentality is arched up by a hidden layer of
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  Speaker 1: melancholy and infinite sadness. Okay, go ask Billy Corgan about
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  Speaker 1: these lyrics. Check them out. Listen. Love and Hate was
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  Speaker 1: in the air like Paullen from a flower somewhere in
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  Speaker 1: April time. They add another hour. I guess I'd better
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  Speaker 1: think up a way to spend my time. Just when
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to sit inside. It's summertime. Should I go
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  Speaker 1: swimming or get a friend to hang around? It's back
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  Speaker 1: to summer, It's back to basics, hang around, getting drunk
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  Speaker 1: on the beach or playing in a band. And getting
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  Speaker 1: out of school meant getting out of hand? Was this
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  Speaker 1: yours celebrated summer? Eat your heart out, Billy Corgan. I
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  Speaker 1: don't mean to be giving Billy Corgan shit, even though
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like I am. But I guess what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is that without Bob Moold, you don't get Billy Corgan.
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  Speaker 1: Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in
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  Speaker 1: a cage. I don't know if that's good or bad, depends,
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  Speaker 1: I guess on your feelings about Smashing Pumpkins. I like
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  Speaker 1: Smashing Pumpkins. We've got a Smashing Pumpkins episode coming up
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  Speaker 1: in a few weeks in the feed, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily think it's gonna make Billy Corgan a fan of
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  Speaker 1: disgrace Nound, which is a shame, because, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: we're fans of his around here. Despite what Zeth wrote
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  Speaker 1: in this episode. Anyway, That is my summer music recommendation
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  Speaker 1: celebrated Summer of the song by Whoskerdoo off of Hohoskerdo's
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  Speaker 1: New Day Rising. You can't go wrong with the entire album.
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  Speaker 1: My summer book recommendation. I have two. Okay, the first
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  Speaker 1: one I'm gonna give to the more you know, sophisticated.
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  Speaker 1: Let's call them sophisticated. Listen, sophisticated readers. Excuse me because
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  Speaker 1: the second one I'm going to give you is not
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  Speaker 1: sophisticated at all. The first one I just read it
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  Speaker 1: on vacation, Raymond Chandler's Farewell My Lovely Okay, it's incredible,
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  Speaker 1: emblematic Raymond Chandler novel. If you've never read Raymond Chandler,
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  Speaker 1: if you've never read a Chandler book with his iconic
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  Speaker 1: Philip Marlow character, this is a great one to start with.
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  Speaker 1: It's gumshoe noir. That's it's the blueprint for the detective novels. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's fantastics. It's exactly what you'd expect. It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to make you think too hard, but it might make
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  Speaker 1: you drink a little more, which is a good enough
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  Speaker 1: reason for me to call this an easy summer read,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's kind of sophisticated. Okay, it's Raymond Chandler,
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  Speaker 1: all right, but it's not as easy and it's not
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  Speaker 1: as light as my next recommendation. It's gonna sound weird
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  Speaker 1: to you. I also read this one on vacation. It's
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  Speaker 1: Wise Guy by Nicholas Pelegie. Now, I was flying to
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  Speaker 1: Europe on Lothunza Airlines, if I'm saying that correctly, Lothunsa,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, wouldn't it be cool to
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  Speaker 1: read about the Lothunza heist on the flight? And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I finally grabbed Wise Guy off my shelf, which
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  Speaker 1: I've owned for some time but never read. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: Wise Guy by Nicholas Pelegie is the book that they
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  Speaker 1: based Goodfellows on, and I thought it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be I don't really know what I thought, but I
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  Speaker 1: got something a little different than what I was expecting.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what I was expecting was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: sort of vagueness in the storytelling, the kind of kernels
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  Speaker 1: of what the stories became in the film. But god man,
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  Speaker 1: some of the storytelling is verbatim from this book in
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  Speaker 1: the language as well, and it's really great to see
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  Speaker 1: how much of Henry Hill's voice, his storytelling voice, I
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  Speaker 1: should say it up in the movie. Fantastic stuff and
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  Speaker 1: just if you want like revelatory facts and crimes that
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  Speaker 1: were committed that didn't make it in the movie. The
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  Speaker 1: book is fantastic as well. There is one great anecdot
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  Speaker 1: where they're talking about how they were just such thieves,
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  Speaker 1: such scammers, and they had a guy. They had an
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  Speaker 1: inn at a grocery store. I believe it was somewhere
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  Speaker 1: in Queens or somewhere. No, it was somewhere in this
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  Speaker 1: in like more of a suburban area of New York.
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  Speaker 1: And this this guy who worked at the grocery store
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  Speaker 1: brought in a construction company to build an eleventh aisle. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you have different aisles in the in the
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  Speaker 1: grocery store, you know, I mean checkout aisle. You have
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  Speaker 1: different lanes you can check out in. There were ten
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  Speaker 1: of them. He had an eleventh built with another eleventh
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  Speaker 1: cash register, and it was open. It was running for
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  Speaker 1: like a year. In every dollar that that checkout lane
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  Speaker 1: collected was stolen. It was pure profit for these gangsters.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't catch up to the scam until this guy
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  Speaker 1: went on like his summer vacation or something, and he
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  Speaker 1: took some time off, and somebody else came in and
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  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, what the fuck, We're not supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have eleven checkout lanes and eleven cat registers. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was fascinating. There's a bunch of stuff like that
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  Speaker 1: in the book. And that book is Wise Guy by
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Poleggi. He also co wrote the script with Scorsese.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna love it, all right, my movie Wreck, I
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  Speaker 1: already kind of gave you the Bradley Cooper thing. Is
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  Speaker 1: this thing on as a wreck, kind of sneaky wreck.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not a feel good hit of the summer
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  Speaker 1: as Faith No War, as Mike Patten would say. It's
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  Speaker 1: so I gotta recommend something else. Okay, I'm currently also
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  Speaker 1: watching Gomora, which is way too dark, so I can't
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  Speaker 1: recommend that. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: recommend Spike Lee's Clockers. And it's not feel good, so
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  Speaker 1: to speak, but it does have a hot and sticky
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  Speaker 1: summer vibe. And Zeth and I referenced a shit ton
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  Speaker 1: in our new this film should be played loud episode
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  Speaker 1: on Do the Right Thing, which is the ultimate summer
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  Speaker 1: movie Do the Right Thing. So if you want to
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  Speaker 1: frame a reference, then you can do no wrong by
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  Speaker 1: watching Spike Lee's Clockers and by reading the novel by
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  Speaker 1: Richard Price as well. It's because it's fantastic, though I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't call that a summer read, but it's also fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's just great, all right. Summer TV series recommendation. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this one is big, it's scary, it's popcorny as hell,
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  Speaker 1: so those things make it summary. But it's also super dark,
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  Speaker 1: but not dark enough to take it off my list.
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  Speaker 1: And that is the Cape Fear series, the remake of
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  Speaker 1: the classic De Niro. Mitchim films the series on Apple
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  Speaker 1: TV with Javey R. Bardem Is and Amy adams Is.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. It's so good. It's the definition of
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  Speaker 1: a great remake. For a million reasons. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go into it here. Zeth can't stand this, he
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  Speaker 1: hates it. I love it, and I'm thinking that maybe
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  Speaker 1: Zeth and I should come on and debate this series.
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  Speaker 1: I think that might be fun. It wraps in a
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  Speaker 1: week or so, so it's available for all of you
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  Speaker 1: to Binge right now on Apple TV. I cannot say
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  Speaker 1: enough about this weird, fucked up thing, this remake, this series,
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  Speaker 1: And I bet a bunch of you are already watching this,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to hear what you have to say
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  Speaker 1: about it. And I also think maybe a bunch of you,
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  Speaker 1: like Zez, started it and just couldn't get into it.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to hear why you don't like it. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's just I love it. They even lose the air
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  Speaker 1: conditioning in an episode, which is quintessential summer viewing. So
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  Speaker 1: those are my res music New Day Rising with celebrated
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  Speaker 1: Summer by Whoscardo Books, Raymond Chandler's Farewell, My Lovely, and
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Polegi's wise Guy movie, Clockers TV series, the New
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  Speaker 1: Cape Fear remake. Listen, read, watch Binge and get back
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  Speaker 1: to me at six one, seven nine oh six six
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  Speaker 1: sixty three eight And let me know what you think
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  Speaker 1: about these RECs. Do you love them? Do you hate them?
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  Speaker 1: Are they summary? Are they not? Most important? I want
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  Speaker 1: to know what you guys are recommending, What are you reading?
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  Speaker 1: I'm up to New England. I'm gonna go sit on
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  Speaker 1: a main beach a couple of days. I want to
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  Speaker 1: you know, I need the res just as bad as
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  Speaker 1: you do. Okay, so don't bogart the Rex is what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. What are you listening to this summer?
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  Speaker 2: What are you reading?
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  Speaker 1: What are you watching? What are you binging? Hit me
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  Speaker 1: and let me know six one seven nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight voicemail an text at disgracelam pod
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  Speaker 1: on the socials that's going to give you his recommendations.
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  Speaker 1: Over in the exclusive section of this after party, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dig into all that, get into some more talk.
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  Speaker 1: right now. Our Dolly Parton episode coming up next right
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  Speaker 1: after this after party is our rewind episode from the
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: archive on Amy Winehouse, originally released on May fourteenth, twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to know more about the UK indie
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  Speaker 1: slee scene that launched Amy's career, the madness of the
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  Speaker 1: bright spotlight of fame that burned out one of the
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  Speaker 1: greatest musical talents of the twenty first century. Then this
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  Speaker 1: episode is for you. That's in the rewind slot coming
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  Speaker 1: up this weekend, right after this bonus episode, all right
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  Speaker 1: after that Amy Winehouse episode. Guys, we got a new
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  Speaker 1: episode on Slipknot coming up next week. When you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to the new Disgrace and on Slipnot episode, be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about how music and lyrics influence its fans and give
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  Speaker 1: us a call it six one seven nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: sixty sixty three eight and I love this question. Let
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  Speaker 1: us know what's the song that pushed you? Okay, what
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  Speaker 1: lyrics pushed you to actually do something, to quit a job,
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  Speaker 1: to start a band, to take a risk, to get
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  Speaker 1: a shit together, to get a shit untogether. Let us know.
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  Speaker 1: We all have those moments in life. We've all had them.
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  Speaker 1: Where we're sitting there, lying in the field somewhere near
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  Speaker 1: Walden Pond. We somehow managed to park our vespa in
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  Speaker 1: the woods. Don't quite know how. Still to this day
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  Speaker 1: we're lying there. Ticks are probably crawling all over us,
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  Speaker 1: and we're thinking, you know what, I'm gonna get my
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  Speaker 1: shit together and start a podcast. I'm just saying, we
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  Speaker 1: all remember what song was playing when we came to
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  Speaker 1: those realizations. Let us know six one seven, nine oh six,
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight what lyrics compelled you. That's what
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  Speaker 1: we want to talk about next week when we get
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  Speaker 1: back in the after party. You can also email me
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  Speaker 1: at Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com, hit us on
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  Speaker 1: socials at Disgrace Lampod, and you might hear your answer
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  Speaker 1: on next week's after party. Art Disco's gonna get into
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  Speaker 1: your voicemails, text, dms, and a whole lot more right
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  Speaker 1: after this. All right, guys, I'm in the phone both
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  Speaker 1: it is the one across the hall. I'm hanging on
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  Speaker 1: the telephone with y'all six one seven, nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: six sixty three eight, voicemail and text. We do a
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  Speaker 1: grab bag of responses for y'all here, little round robin,
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  Speaker 1: on any subject you want to talk talk about. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to this message from the five O three.
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  Speaker 2: Jake, This is Johnny Magnifico from the five O three Man.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I'm not late to the game. On the
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  Speaker 2: best husband and wife bands. How could we forget the grittiest, grimiest,
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  Speaker 2: true diy rock and roll band, Dead Moon from Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: Fred and Trudy Cole married in nineteen sixty seven. Fred's
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  Speaker 2: story alone is insane.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he.
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  Speaker 2: Played with like soul acts in the nineteen sixties that
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  Speaker 2: he opened up for Stevie Wonder under the name Deep
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  Speaker 2: so Coal, was in the Weeds and the Lollipop Shop
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  Speaker 2: that opened up for Janis Joplin and so many other
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  Speaker 2: bands back in the day, and then dodging the Giraffe.
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  Speaker 2: He his band broke down in Portland, Oregon, where he
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  Speaker 2: met Tuty. They married in nineteen sixty seven. He was
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  Speaker 2: in a million bands Zipper throughout the seventies. Eventually, fed
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  Speaker 2: up up with flaky musicians, he got his wife to
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  Speaker 2: play bass and they started a band throughout the eighties
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  Speaker 2: called The Rats, which featured Sam Henry from the Wipers,
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  Speaker 2: another great Portland band. Eventually they turned into Dead Moon
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  Speaker 2: that played for years and years. I think they even
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  Speaker 2: turned down touring with Nirvana because they already had a
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  Speaker 2: prior engagement with anothern band they were supposed tour with.
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  Speaker 2: Tody bought Fred the actual cutting vinyl cutting machine that
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  Speaker 2: cut the infamous Louis Louis Steven Inch from the Kingsmen,
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  Speaker 2: who were also from Portland, and they would record themselves
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  Speaker 2: and actually cut their own vinyl records on this machine.
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  Speaker 2: Their stories insane, and eventually started a band called Pierced
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  Speaker 2: Arrows that's also just gritty and raw and amazing. Until
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  Speaker 2: Fred died and she's now playing kind of keeping the
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  Speaker 2: Dead Moon thing alive. So she's out on the road
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  Speaker 2: touring right now. But yes, Fred and Judy Cole, they're
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  Speaker 2: amazing dead Moon. Check them out.
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  Speaker 1: Holy shit, Johnny Magnifico, thank you so much. I know
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  Speaker 1: nothing about this. I know so little about Dead Moon
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  Speaker 1: Fred and Judy Cole that I'm almost questioning whether or
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  Speaker 1: not you're making this whole thing up to fuck with me.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think you are. And if you are, congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, working in the Wipers and the whole
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the Louis Louis machine that
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  Speaker 1: cut the seven and she's pretty good. If you're making
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  Speaker 1: it up, kudos, my friend. But I don't think you're
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  Speaker 1: making it up. And I don't know anything about this,
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  Speaker 1: and I am I know what I'm listening to on
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  Speaker 1: my ride to the barbershop later today. So thanks so much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to dig into this. Fred and Judy, you
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  Speaker 1: got a fan here in Johnny Magnifico Disco's. Let's all
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  Speaker 1: check out Dead Moon and let Johnny know what we think.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, man, Thank you. All right, let's go to
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  Speaker 1: the nine seven eight Jake rock a rolla man Helltown.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Mark here two things. I'm less than one year behind
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  Speaker 1: on the playlist and it's freaking huge. Also an idea
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you Fortunately, nothing More has given you some material to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: work with, specifically regarding sexual allegations towards their tech and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the band management covering up wicked bummer for a great band.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And then thanks, I appreciate the rest of your message here.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I will let you know Mark, thank you. I don't
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: know much about nothing More. I'll check this out, appreciate
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the tip on. As for the playlist, guys that Mark
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: is alluding to. Mark has gone through and he's made
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: this giant playlist of every song referenced in all two
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty whatever episodes of Disgraceland. It's mammoth. If
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you want to be in on that, you got to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: be well, you can get it. I think it's on Spotify,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but Mark's in the Patreon chat all the time we've
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: posted in there. He keeps us updated on his prom
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  Speaker 1: progress and Patreon as well. Susie hits us up from
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the three four to six. Hey there, I wanted to
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: make a suggestion for a new topic. You might not
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: have thought about. Juan Gabrielle al Divo de Juarez. He
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: literally had the voice that granted him life, literally in
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a time where being feminine, slash flamboyant and gay was unthinkable.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: There's a story of him getting into trouble with cartels
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and local law enforcement. I can't wait for your take,
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  Speaker 1: loveoll Susie. Susie, fantastic recommendation. Juan Gabrielle al Divo de
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  Speaker 1: Juarez is going on the list. Appreciate you. Nine one
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  Speaker 1: seven writes in Adele. Where's the Fiona Apple episode? Look
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: up Kanye West obsession with her before her first album
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  Speaker 1: came out. Yo, I just read nine one seven. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just read talk about summer reads. I should have recommended this.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I'm recommending this. I read this on vacation too. The
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: third book I read on vacation. I can't believe I
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  Speaker 1: didn't fucking recommend this one. I think I mentioned to
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: you guys a couple of weeks ago, Jonathan Ames. Wake up, sir, hysterical,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Ames. I did mention this because I talked about
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Board to Death with Jason Schwartzman and Ted Danson. Great
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: summer read if you're looking for one. Anyways, I'm like,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about this. Jonathan names guy and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I started looking him up. He used to date, or
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: maybe he still does date, Fiona Apple, which is just incredible, amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Nine one seven. I don't know where the Fiona Apple
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  Speaker 1: episode is. It was on the list, it's still on
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the list. I just don't know a good way into
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: her story, you know. I kind of want to write
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it as like it's like a one act where she's
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: trapped in a room for all night with Paul Thomas
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Anderson and Quentin Tarantino and Amanda Cocaine, and she she
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: somehow survives that fucking atrocity. But I just I don't
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: have a good angle on Fiona Apple yet, you know, Adele,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: To answer your question, nine one seven, it's a huge
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: true true crime. A fan and a huge fan of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: true crime of crime movies. Excuse me, so that was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: our in there three oh three rights saying hey, I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: surprised you didn't know about the wax and the Philippines.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But more importantly, yes, Cheap Trick is from Rockford, Illinois.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Just like adult star ginger Linn, I can tie almost
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: anything back to porn stars and playmates from the three
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to three and Cheap Trick apparently three O three. Now
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I did not know about the wax and the Philippines,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Now I do? I love it? Eight six o rights
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  Speaker 1: in hey, Jake trip from the eight to six to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: oh the New Marson episode is, in a word great.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I've been a doors freak for forty years. There was
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: stuff in it that I had no clue about. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: was under the assumption in the gym, and Pan didn't
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: meet the count until the end of the band, not
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the beginning of it. The whole UCLA connection was wild,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day Jim died due
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to general self abuse with the booze and drugs, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it's possible did hed on something. Thanks Jake. This episode
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: was in the top five best Disgraceland episodes hands down.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Eighty six. Oh, I appreciate that.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: From a heavy doors head like yourself. This story kicked
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: up a bunch of controversy off a lot of people.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: So many people want to hang on to their theories
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: about how these folks died, especially Jim Morrison. So many
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: people want to want to point to the more conspiracy
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: oriented takes on his death. So many people want to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: believe that that, you know, something else happened, like he
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: just you know, he disappeared or you know, his body
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: it was brought back from the club. And and I've
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: already told you what I think, and I stand by
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: my research. You can check all our sources. You can
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: read the same stuff I read. It's all on our website.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Go to the Jim Morrison page on disgracelinepod dot com.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Five one oh hey, Jake Greg Alman's autobiography is rad
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I can only imagine going an Alman Brothers episode coming
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: up soon, very soon. Six one seven nine oh six
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: six six three eight. You guys want to hit me,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: talk about whatever you want to talk about, I'm here
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: for it. Take a quick break back after this with
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: more of me and more of you. All right, guys,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we are back when I hit an email here from
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: listener Kendon Smith, subject average White Band. Now. I'm choosing
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: this because not only is this a thoughtful email, but
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Zeth and I were just talking. I can't remember if
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it was in the after party or if it was
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: in the wrap party about his hatred of average white band,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and I get to say, I'm feeling like there's an
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: average White Band episode coming thanks to mister Kenden Smith
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and Zeth. Don't worry, I won't make you write it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Here comes the average White band message. Okay, I just
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: listened to your Jim Morrison death episode and it all
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: sounds very plausible. The tale of mistaking horse for snow
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that's heroin for cocaine reminds me of the sad tale
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of the average White Band who were then riding high
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on the novelty of being a great funk band from Scotland,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: only to almost lose it all in disgraceful The tale
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: of Robbie McIntosh seems like a story perfect for an episode. Anyway.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: A little while back, you're asking people about artists who
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: took an experimental left turn, and I wanted to submit
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: sound effects by the jam Before this much of their
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: output didn't stray far from the jangly retropop mod nods
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to the Kinks, the Small Faces and the Who sound effects.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Was their departure with angular new wave, perhaps inspired by
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: XTC Gang of Four and perhaps the success of the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Police with lots of dub influenced studio experimentation that leaned
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: into art school way more than the reputation previously suggested.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I loved the one Yo Williams episode. I wanted to
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: go back in time, knock the gun away and tell
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: her that the twenty first century needs her. But I digress.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: My rock and roll time machine will be working overtime
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to try to get to Otis Redding before we stepped
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: on that plane and walking me as about a home
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on that night. It's late as I type, and I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: got work to do, so Jake Zeth and company, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: have all my love for what you do. That's from
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Kenden Smith. Kenden, thank you so much. And I read
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: this because of the average White band reference. Thank you
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: don't know much about them. Perhaps yes there is an
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: episode I was joking earlier, but perhaps there may be.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: But I also I really like this thing about the
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: jam Paul Weller and sound effects. I had no idea
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: about this album and it's plausible. The whole XTC Gang
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of four influence. I love it. Thanks Kendon, appreciate you guys.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Hit me up Disgrace lampod at gmail dot com. You
• 25:23
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• 25:25
  Speaker 1: hit me to an album I should be listening to.
• 25:27
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• 25:29
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• 25:32
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• 25:36
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• 25:40
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• 25:43
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• 25:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about Ze's summer recommendations and a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: whole lot of other stuff. It's a great conversation. Can't
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• 25:59
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• 27:02
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back. We are ready to split.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: But before we do, just want to say we mentioned
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a ton of episodes. Guys, over two hundred and sixty
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: five episodes in the archive, and yet there is no
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Paul Weller in the Jam episode. We talk about artists
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: every single week, and like I said, so many of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: them have been covered in Disgraceland. If you guys want
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: if you want info on how to best navigate to
• 27:22
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  Speaker 1: it out of here. Number one this week, our new
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: episode on Dolly Parton that's available for you right now.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Number two in the rebind slot this weekend. Our classic
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: episode on Amy Winehouse. Number three next week coming up,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: our new episode on slip Knot. Number four is that's
• 27:46
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• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Back on March twenty seventh, nineteen seventy six, the second
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: night of Dolly Parton's Jamboree, and this is what America
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  Speaker 1: was listening to on that day, according to the Billboard Charts,
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  Speaker 1: Number one December nineteen sixty three, Oh What a Night,
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  Speaker 1: The Four Seasons. Last week one Peap position one weeks
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  Speaker 1: on Chart fourteen, number two, Dream Weaver Gary Wright, last
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  Speaker 1: week three Peap position two weeks on Chart thirteen, number three,
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  Speaker 1: Lonely Night, Angel Face Aptin Ma Tale, last week's on
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