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From Addiction to Purpose: Jorge's Incredible Journey of Recovery · Life Rescue with Lisa Dwoskin

• Lisa Dwoskin: Here we go. All right. We're back. Light Frescu with Lisa. Thank you all for joining us today. I have a wonderful guest who's gonna tell how we met. His name is George, and I'm not even gonna try to pronounce your last name. What is it, George? Antonatis. ⁓ okay. Where is that from? It's Greek. ⁓ Greek. That's the one place I haven't been that I'm dying to go to Greece. You're gonna love it. It's gorgeous. ⁓ I was able to Yeah. I ⁓ did my cousin's wedding out there. She's like, Hey, do you wanna DJ my wedding? I'll fly you out to Greece. I'm like, ⁓ yeah, let me think about it. Yeah. So it was the weather was just gorgeous. It's just a beautiful country. And the food, I love Greek food. It's the best. Okay, so how do we meet? So I ⁓ Yoga Six at the time in Hollywood had a special event yoga class. And after the class was over, I look up and I see you and I'm like, Wait, aren't you Lisa? I've seen you on LinkedIn, you do those videos and you're like, Yeah and I was like kind of starstruck and at the same time just really I think it was it was gratitude because you gave me hope and I just saw when I would see your videos, it just it the vibe that I got was like you you had this freedom. You were just you'd have your hands up and you'd be on the beach and I was like, Man, that's like I want that type of freedom. And so it just g kinda gave me hope at that time. And so it's really grateful to see you. I mean you have no idea how much that means to me because I do everything I do to help others as well as myself. And it helps me to help others. It actually helps me with all my crazy issues as well. But Thank you, because that means the world. And I remember when you you're like, Are you from Life Rescue, Lisa? And I'm like, Yeah. ⁓ you are so sweet and I love that. So thank you so much. That touches my heart. My pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. So share a little bit your story about addiction because this program today is focused on that, although it's only gonna be part of it. But for those of you out there, and there's a lot of you out there with drug addiction, alcohol addiction, gambling, sex addiction, whatever addiction replaces another addiction, another addiction, it's very common with society, with people. So pay attention because George is going to share his story and you're going to find a little bit of info on there for each and every one of you watching that is going to help you. So thank you, George, for coming on and being vulnerable and sharing your story and we wanna hear it. So start from the beginning. Yes, thank you, Lisa. I appreciate it and thank you for having me on. I I appreciate it. And this is kinda like the first time that I've actually shared something like this on this platform, this type of platform. And basically, ⁓ for me it started, you know, that I have ⁓ I've I wanna say in the past tense I I had co I always depend I had a codependency on things. So it was really easy for me to gravitate towards the alcohol and the drugs and to kind of depend on living by having these substances. Like I just felt without that I could not live. And the thing is is that once those substances come into play for me ⁓ it changes the way I live, it changes the way I think against my own will. I'm like doing these things, like no my better judgment of like, hey, this is not a good time to drink, or don't cross the line here, only have one drink. Like I would always, you know, cross the line and it just and then it overlapped into just a kind of like a messy life. And so in my twenties, ⁓ I remember looking up Going, God, please help me. I got to that point where like I was probably close to death. And my life had just become really just to drink and drug. And it was at that moment that I kind of like when I looked up, I I read this book and it just got me into a place where I met with with ⁓ people that I would call my angels or messengers that helped me to get out of that. Now the thing was is that in my twenties, I thought I was like all that in a bag of chips. So I get a little bit better and like, you know, I was like, peace out. Thank you for your help. I'll take it from here. So I went back into that self reliance and that codependency was still there. The only thing that had changed was I wasn't drinking and drugging for many years. So you fast forward to now I'm in my forties and I have two kids. I have a wife. ⁓ and I stayed away from a drink and a drug. So my logic was like, Well, I'm not that twenty year old kid. that was drinking and drugging, maybe this time it's gonna be different. And the thing is, just the way I'm built is like once I have a taste, I want more and I just can't stop. That's why I have to completely be abstinent because once I pick up any drink or a drug, then I just I want more. I don't want it to end. And so I thought that because I had so much time away from a drink and a drug that I can pick it up and if it doesn't work out, I'll just put it down. And the thing is I had four years where it progressively got worse where it started where I could take it or leave it. It was on the weekends and it was just kinda like no big deal. And then slowly but surely that window of me like not drinking and drugging was like closed. Now it's like before I drop off my kids or right after I dropped off my kids at school, I was like back to that again. And it it it slowly just became my life and it brought me back down to ⁓ pain and and misery and hope I had a lot of hopelessness. I was really crushed. I I I you know, I just didn't know how you know, my my life was just like meaningless. ⁓ it felt and I felt hopeless. ⁓ this was in your forties. This was recently like Yeah, yeah. It was like two thousand fourteen when I had picked back up again. And the the strength of this thing of the drug and the alcohol taking hold of my life. It's it's so powerful that the more I try to like, I thought maybe if I just be a nicer person, maybe that's, you know, like I thought anything but this, I don't want to give this up. And I just kept failing until February 16, 2018, ⁓ I happened to go to my mom's house and my aunt was there and we had a conversation. And I don't remember what that conversation was, but all I remember is that out of my mouth was like, I need help. And that's where it shifted for me where I was back into getting my life into freedom versus you know this ⁓ it was taking over my life. Okay, before you continue, I got a few questions. When did you start drinking? At what age? ⁓ I was like fifteen years old. And drugs? Drugs about sixteen. Okay. And then you met your wife and you got married and you had kids. And you would go through good, you know, like no drinking, no drugs to drinking and drugs like off and on? No, I stayed dry for a long time. And that's what would one would consider a dry drunk. Like the only thing I changed really was that I stopped drinking and drugging. Like my behavior. ⁓ you know, I would like verbally abuse my my wife and I would do things that would justify my bad behavior. I wouldn't not take a look at myself. I would just justify it. And so That's about the only thing I did right. I had some good times. It wasn't all horrible, but oftentimes the the bad sides of me, I wasn't owning up to it or willing to change that. It was just so when you stopped before you got married, you what made you stop and how long did you stop for? Before I got married, what made me stop was I was, you know, basically only using to live. That that was the only life I had. My you know, if it if I wasn't getting high or drunk, I had no life. I was miserable. I was really miserable. So how did you stop and why did you stop? I stopped because I had that moment, that window of opportunity where I realized this is not going well. You have no life right now. You're living with your parents and you're you know, you're just causing too much pain all around you and to myself. I was hurting myself. It was it was hurting me. And were you able to stop by yourself without No, I I I went into a a twelve step program. ⁓ and that's you know, I went with people that that have like been where I've been and they helped me to ⁓ get off the drugs and the alcohol. But then I thought, okay, thank you. ⁓ I'm good now. I'll take it from here. That's like So then you stayed off of it for how long until you started again? Many years. I would say about twenty about twenty five years. And so I thought with the time distance and that I'm older, I'm more mature, that I would know better and that I would make better choices, that I would be able to ⁓ be responsible with it. And that was just not the case. ⁓ so it was a slow progression back, like you would drink on the weekends, drink a little bit. There wasn't some like major trauma or life changing situation that got you back into all of it. I think it was the reservation, but there were there were some things that happened. ⁓ at at the time I had split up, I had a business partner and now I was on my own. This kind of goes back to the codependency. Now I'm on my own and so I felt like I needed to make up for lost time. I felt like I I was missing ⁓ something was missing inside of me and I thought that maybe by bringing this back into my life that that was the missing piece. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, got it. So now Now you go to two thousand and what, eighteen when you stopped? Two thousand eighteen, yep. And now how what made you stop then and how'd you do it? It was a I wasn't planning on it that day. So to me it was an act of providence that helped me to stop. But just that meeting your relative, talking to her We had a conversation. I and my parents tried. They they One time they're like, Hey, let's go to Panera Bread. We're gonna have breakfast. And I'm like, Great, family time with my parents. And they're like, You got a problem. And like, wait, I thought this was supposed to be this nice breakfast family time. So, like they tried, but that didn't work. And my aunt really didn't try. I don't know what was talked about, but all I remember was that gift of desperation of like, I need help. I finally realized that my life, you know, like if I could see my life where it was today, I could say, Clearly, George, you need some help, dude. Like this is not going good. And yet I was like in the denial of it. I didn't want to admit it. I picked up the phone. Picked up the phone and I asked for help and ⁓ it was one of those ⁓ you know, like eight hundred numbers and they got me into the rooms back again of the recovery rooms. And that's where, you know, I got with the sponsor and I got with the program. And I said, Okay, well, last time I didn't really work the program, I was just attending meetings and drinking coffee. And this time I better remain teachable, listen, and and I was still defiant at the same time. So it's tough. It's like help me, but really I don't want your help kind of thing. So it was tough. Yeah. Yeah. So this time you actually wanted to help, you made a difference, you put in the work. So now it's been what, nine years that you have coming up on nine. Now look okay, so looking back at this this eight to nine years, what was different that viewers listening could know that if they do it, like I love what you said about the first time you're just drinking coffee in there, you were there in body, but probably not in mind and spirit. Now it's nine years, it's different. What was different and how could people learn from you to help themselves? Taking the suggestions. You know, I I really I was above or below people and I really I wanted the help, but I didn't want to really take on the suggestions. Like I thought again going back to like the self-reliance, like you couldn't possibly help me. Like this couldn't possibly help me. You know, one of the things that they say is you put your sobriety first and everything else falls into place. So instead of, you know, it's like when I first come back, I I wanna like, you know, go everywhere and put out all these fires and it was just like I had to first focus on just don't drink and drug today and then grow from there. And I didn't have any experience of what it was gonna offer me because I was still in a lot of crazy, you know, like I came in like my mind was just I was a hot mess. I was in all three areas, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, broken. And so it was hard for me to believe that, okay, by doing this not drinking and drugging a day at a time and working a program that it was gonna change my life. I had to go on hope and the faith that it would. And were were your kids and your wife very supportive of you? ⁓ I laughed because my wife was not so not so supportive, which reminded me that this is about me working the program because I've seen people where they have the cheerleader wife like, ⁓ great, you're going to you're taking care of yourself, wonderful. And I've seen people like that go out. So I knew that I had to do this for me. And if I didn't do this for me, there would be no family to go to. So even though she was like after thirty days, like, you're going to another meeting, you just went. It's been thirty days. Aren't you like fixed now? You know, so I had to like They let it be, you know, serenity prayer and just focus on what I had to do. Sometimes I would come home thinking that I don't have it was like a twilight zone because I would think that I would come home and she'd want a divorce and my stuff was gonna be out on the lawn and she'd be like, ⁓ I got dinner, honey, we're like, Okay, she was mad a minute ago and now she's cool. Like it's weird. But she was luckily supportive. So she does support deep down. I mean, not holding your hand because I'm sure she had many broken promises from you, many failed attempts, and after so long you you as a spouse you get like, Okay, here we go again. So but at the same time she didn't walk out on you. She stayed with you, saw it through. I mean I bet she's so happy and your kids are so happy. Yeah, she has those moments, yes, where she does see that. And the my kids are definitely happy and our you know, it started when I first ⁓ came into the program again, my kids were not like so ⁓ loving, like our relationship was ⁓ kind of needed some repair and I had to like let that relationship be at the moment. And little by little as I kept working the program and s not drinking and drugging, they came around and our relationship is so much better now. Yeah. So much better. We have a really great relationship now. Beautiful. So You took the steps, you joined the program, you went to the meetings, you were not just there in body, but you were there mind, body, spirit. And your family didn't leave you. They was stuck around till you got through this. Now, besides that, let's talk about how important yoga was, your yoga practice, meditation, breathing, and how did you get involved with that? Great question. And that's so awesome. It's it's like the doors that opened from getting sober. It was just the beginning. And so I have a neighbor, Maria, and I would often see her with her yoga mat walking to the to the yoga studio. And it just sparked my curiosity. And so I was like, let me give it a shot. And I felt like a commons like a almost like an imposter, you know, like a fake. Because I'm like, what are these warrior twos? And I don't know if I I belong here. I've never really you know, I felt like I didn't Namaste. I felt like I didn't fit in, but I just you know, kinda like the program, like I kept coming back, I kept coming back and man, I I would practically live in that studio. Like when they shut down, I cried so hard because it was such a big piece to me. You know, the from the power yoga to the the relaxing, the meditative yoga, like all of it. And the instructors were just amazing. It just it really helped me in in all three areas mind, body and and spirit. Yeah, I love that. We'll find another Yoda studio. Yes, there there's a couple that that I've been I haven't been attending as much. I've been really focused on ⁓ working out more, but I definitely ⁓ am starting to incorporate yoga back into my Yeah, you you look kind of pumped up. I can't see much, but you look you look bigger than the last time I saw you. I saw you a while ago at the yoga studio. Yeah. So yeah, you look super fit. So what's your workout regime? So what what changed for me with that was just a simple phone call. It's incredible, the ripple effect. You I I go to UFIT and I remember one day they're like, Hey, do need a trainer? I'm like, nah, I'm good. Every time I'm good and I don't need help, it really, you know, shuts me down to progress. So they had like a special thing, like get a trainer for and my goal was like, I'm gonna get this trainer for four sessions and I'm gonna take that information and run with it. That was my idea. But no, I still have this trainer to this day. And that's what changed everything for me. He really set the path, yes, I have to do the work and pick up the dumbbells, but he just opened up my fitness to like a whole nother level from ⁓ you know the no sorry I love what you just said. So you've said it a couple times since we were talking about when you were way back twenty something years ago, you went to the meetings and you heard what they said and then that was it. You were gonna do it yourself. And then now The yoga you stuck to but they closed. You were gonna do the four sessions, which is so funny for me because when people hire me as a trainer, which I've been doing for thirty something years, I tell them if you don't commit to three months, go find another trainer. 'Cause I cannot help you in four sessions or even ten sessions. I need a commitment. I I'm gonna coach you, but I need a commitment from you. So everything you're saying is All in line with anything in life that you want to make a change in, you gotta give it 90 days or more to see the change. And it what do you have to do? You have to be determined, you have to be consistent, you have to commit, you have to follow through. Nothing in life is easy. It's a journey that you're on until You feel that you've gotten to where you need to be and guess what? Even then you're not there yet. Right. Continues. Yeah. And that's the thing. If I don't continue, I can progressively go backwards again. And so that's one of the things that keeps me from continuing to eat right and continuing to exercise that there is no destination. It's ongoing journey. Yeah. I love that. So So far, what we've discussed with everyone here, all the viewers that are watching, please take what George said to heart. You need help, you need a step by step program, you need coaching, you need to be dedicated, consistency. You can't do it alone. Not okay, look at me. I'm a coach, I'm a fitness trainer, I ⁓ have podcasts, I'm starting a TV show, but I have coaches. We all have coaches. I have loving family members, friends who help me along the way. We can't isolate ourselves and think that we could do it all alone because I think that from everything you said, George, I think that's the key factor is surround yourself with good, healthy, non-toxic people who can lift you up, not pull you down, right? Absolutely. Yeah. And that's what my trainer did for me. He opened up because my my workout schedule was usually like bench pressing and lap poles and I was very limited. And he's got me into functional training, kettlebells. You know, we do a lot of things and stretching is important. That's why yoga is is ⁓ great too, because it's not just about like working out. It's like when I start working out, I don't just get into it. I warm up, I I stretch. It's very important the the stretching, the breathing. I I love to meditate too before going in because a a lot of it is mental. You know, before I even get to the gym, I'm like thinking of all the stuff and like now I gotta take it into the present moment. Like forget about all these things, just take it one step at a time, and that's what allows me to get through my workouts. I love what you just said. One day at a well, let's go to what you just said. One step at a time, one day at a time, one week at a time. Live in the present moment. Don't live in the past and don't worry about the future. Live in the moment. So Before we jump into another subject that whatever you want to talk about with fitness, ⁓ let me ask you something. Is every day a struggle now or does it get easier? Well, how does it work with addiction and codependency? Even though you've helped yourself and you're already on your way up on this journey, is it still a battle all the time, some of the time? Tell us about that. As far as the drinking and the substances, that that is not so much of a battle. But you know, there's a saying that we're not cured. So ⁓ it's kinda like maintaining or at least progressively getting healthier in fitness. If I stop working out, the results are gonna show. And so if I stop working a program, eventually, sooner or later, there's like a million ways that it can come get me. And so I could potentially, you know mess up and go the the other direction. So I have to stay focused on continuing to live that one day at a time, that just for today attitude. And, you know, continue to for me it's it's staying connected with the God of my understanding. I I've always believed in that, but I didn't really have such a great connection as before. I had a lot of blockages. And you know, that can kind of segue into what what other thing that ⁓ I haven't shared with you was like a lot of my I had a lot of depression and I would get a lot of anxiety attacks and I never thought that I would have ⁓ n not lived without that. And today I'm not living that way today with depression. I'm not living with panic attacks. They would come out of nowhere and, you know, it was very strong. They'd call nine one one and put EKGs on me and check my heart and, you know, I thought something was wrong with me and, you know through the a lot of this practice of like breath work, yoga, meditation, prayer, like all these tools consistently ⁓ have yielded a result that I'm like blown away. Like, wow, I can't believe that I'm not how I used to be. Yeah, I love that. Wow. Congratulations. And I bet you thought back then that there would never be a day that you would not have anxiety, not have depression. And there's so many people out there. that feel this way, that how could they ever have a life without depression, without anxiety? And the fact that you just said that are is giving the people watching hope. That there's hope for them. It is possible. Yes, absolutely. And I didn't believe it would be. So I'm surprised myself that wow, you know, ⁓ I feel like I'm okay. Like things come up. Fears can come up. Like even before this podcast, I was like excited and nervous and I had all this emotion. And these things can come up, but they don't like I used to feed that stuff and it used to like just take over. And that's why I would have a physical reaction from it, because I would feed the fears and fear and depression and you know, self pity was another big one. I would always feel sorry for myself and Like not good enough, not worthy. And so I've changed my language. You know, I can look at myself in the mirror and say, I love you. You're worthy. You're enough. You're doing your best. Keep going. You know, so I've changed my language of how I talk and it's made a difference, a huge difference. I love that. You know, yeah, I told you a little bit or you saw that about my show Life Rescue TV with the three clients that I transformed from beginning to end. I don't know if you saw a couple of things on Live. Saw some pieces of that. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the three clients, she is a drug and alcohol addict who stopped before she got on the show. And I think she stopped maybe two months before the show. So the first thing she said on day one when we had our first talk, we sat down and she told me her story. She said something so profound that the audience really is going to listen to and It will help them. She said, I thought when I gave up drugs and alcohol that I would be cured and my life would be great. And she goes, that was just the beginning of that iceberg because stopping the drugs and alcohols seemed to have been the easiest part, although it was really hard. But then comes staying at it, being consistent, not going back, taking care of yourself, doing yoga, loving yourself. Helping your depression, helping your anxiety. That's where the work begins, right? Yes. And I I too thought that, you know, I had certain ideas that once I stopped the drinking and the drugging, that my whole life, you know, was going to turn into this fairy tale dream. And it, you know, life still was happening around me. So it's like just because I was stopped drugging and drinking doesn't mean that the world is going to be like, ⁓ poor Georgie, now he's He's not drinking anymore. Like, no, life is still unfolding. I'm like, what the heck is going on? And so that's why not doing this alone really helped me a lot where people can relate to where I was at and helped me move from that state and more into the reality and more into the things that I can change, which is, you know, my attitude. I had an attitude adjustment. I love it. I love your story. So let's take a side note for a couple of minutes. what questions do you have for me? So how can I 'cause my pattern has been that I've went backwards. I've I've reached a certain point. So I guess that's one of my something that I want to be vigilant on. I don't want to go backwards anymore. I wanna continue to progress and move forward and grow. Cause I've been very complacent, like even in my my field of work, which is fine. I I I do DJing for a living, but I've always felt like the comfort, you know, I want to kind of grow and get a little bit out of my Comfort zone and try and expand, and maybe there's a greater purpose for my life than just the regular things that I've been doing before. So you're saying how do you continue to move forward and open up your mind to get to where you think you might be going, but you're not sure because you don't you don't know. That kind of thing? Yeah, to point me in like the right direction. ⁓ because it's not like I know exactly what it And that was one of my things is that I need to know what it looks like, how it's gonna sound like, what it's gonna be like, and to kinda go on like, well, we're just, you know, go on blind faith ⁓ that this is the right direction. And that I used to second guess myself a lot too, of like, ⁓ maybe I shouldn't have done that, maybe I should you know, I would just be like all over the place. So I wanna be more clear, more more daring too. Yeah. Okay, first thing. I want to tell you is let go and let God, which I think you brought up something like that. And for those of you who are watching, I'm not talking about religion here. I'm talking about spirituality, your higher power. If it's God, great. If it's a ball of energy, if it's the Buddha, I don't care what it is. Your higher power will show you the way once you open up your mind, your heart, your body, your spirit to allow. whatever that energetic force is to come in. So I think it looks different for everyone. It looks different for everyone. It's a personal thing. And that that to me is freedom. Because no one's gonna tell me like what it should be like, you know? Right. And I'm not telling anyone what their you know what their belief or lack of, you know, it's ⁓ it's an individual process on that aspect. Right. You want to let go of control and you wanna believe. You wanna have faith. And the number one Well that would be number one. Number two, the most important thing for you is journaling. Do you journal at all? I have journaled. Yes. Yes. Not a regular. I I I'll probably need to do more journaling. But I have done it quite a bit. The reason why I say that is because when you journal, you're putting your thoughts, feelings, everything inside on paper. And don't hold back because no one's gonna read it. I mean, if people out there are afraid of people reading it, get a lock and key one, whatever, hide it somewhere. But pour your heart out. No judgment from anyone. And then like at the end of the week, go back and read what it is that you're still fearing. Are there fears? Are you feeling fearing success maybe? Failure? Are you fearing this? What are your fears? What are your goals? What are you passionate about? I did a seminar one time with like 50 people in it, and I asked them, what are you passionate about? And like 10 people had no idea what they were passionate about. So you need to write everything down. What makes you feel good? What raises your energetic vibe? What lowers your vibe? And then open up to yourself to get to know yourself better by writing it down. Then the breathing. I always say, and I'm sorry sorry if people hear my dog barking and the I have a little newborn puppy who's waking up. But we have a couple of minutes left. So let me finish this really important point. I always say that when I pray, I'm talking to God, because my God is God. I don't I that's what I pray to, my God, whatever it is. So when I meditate. God answers me. So, in to put that in more layman's terms, for those of you who don't meditate and do yoga, when you're quiet and you're still and it's silent, you are able to hear the answers from the universe and get the signs of your direction, of your passion, what it is you're meant to do. And don't put pressure on yourself because a lot of people are like, I have to find what I'm gonna do. How do I find it? Find it. No, just be and like I said, don't worry about the past. Don't stress about the future. Be in the moment and it will come to you. That's beautiful. I love that. Yeah, so I definitely need to journal more. I I have journaled and that's gonna help me. That's a great ⁓ tool that. I'm gonna be incorporating more. But did I answer the question you were asking? Yeah, it's basically trust. And and you know, I'm on the lines of ⁓ you know, I don't wanna chase it, I don't I don't need to know what it looks like, I wanna attract it and I wanna stay in that vibration. And so I guess that that kind of leads me to the other question. ⁓ is I've noticed like recently I had a low vibration. I I felt ⁓ like a low vibration. And I was like, I wanted someone from the outside to like, hey, what do you do? How do I you know, I felt like in my solar plex and my stomach, it was like, you know, I I even ⁓ did a little video on it that like I was about to work out and it was like it wasn't that I was physically weak, but I felt so weak that I just felt like I needed to get grounded. I I working out right now was not at that moment. And I ended up working out after I did get grounded. But it's like what's what are some great tools? ⁓ it's prayer meditation, but When I feel that it's like I want it to go away and sometimes I I you know, I don't I don't fight 'cause the more I fight it, I think the more it's gonna stay. So how can I Okay, ready? Raise up your arms like I always do and go Now, do you feel better? Yeah, that shifted energy big time. So you need to do that. Raising your dancing. Dance. Like there's no one watching. Dance. Jump up and down. Spin all around. Because that's gonna raise your energetic vibe. But a couple of other very important things. Stay away from toxic people. That means family members too could be toxic. Stay away from them. Surround yourself with High vibing people and caffeine, drugs, alcohol, chocolate, like in excess, excess junk food. Feed your mind, your body, your spirit with good, nutritious foods, and anything that can raise your vibe, you know, besides the people, the nutrition, movement. Movement's important, but sometimes, and we're gonna end on this one. It because we're going over a little bit of time, which is fine. Sometimes you need to accept the low vibing energy, embrace it. And this is also for people who are going through dark moments. We all want to push that away. We want to push away the darkness. We want to push away the hurt. We want to push away the low vibing energy. But sometimes we have to listen. to our mind, body, spirit by embracing it and knowing that you need to slow down, knowing that maybe you need to skip a workout, maybe you need to get in the bubble bath, go get a massage, do something good for yourself because the most important thing, when you embrace the dark moments in your life and you feel them, you live in them and you work through them. You're able to let them go and move cl closer towards the light. So when you're feeling low vibe, embrace it and maybe just be in it for a while and then release it and then jump up and down and spin all around. So that makes a lot of sense, right? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So anyway, okay, we're gonna end this podcast, but George, first of all, let me just tell you, you're amazing. Thank you so much for being vulnerable, for coming on here, having the courage, not only for yourself, but for these people watching, listening. There is someone out there, I'm sure more than one person who you're going to help with this podcast. And I want you all to know you can comment on here. George will be looking at the comments. You can call 754 222 4413. Share your story. Share something about George. Give him more encouragement to keep going. And thank you. And I want you to end with something encouraging for people watching that they can do it too. Give them some words of wisdom. They say it's the darkest before the dawn. So even if it looks dark, it's like a dark cloud. It's not permanent. Hold on, pain ends. So hang on to hope. You know, when I went through a lot of my darkness, I just had the hope. I didn't have the experience that I was gonna be able to come out of it on the other side and and be in a much better place. But I hung on and I had the hope. And so I'm reminded that even though it looks dark, that it's the darkest before the dawn and there's a light at the end of the tunnel. So keep pushing forward. Success is a small efforts repeated day in and day out. It's I I don't have to do everything perfectly in one day. Just gotta try my best to the best of my ability every single day. I love it. And hey, before we say goodbye, let me tell you, I just figured out what you need to do. You ready? What's that? Yes. Start your own podcast. I'm serious. You're so you have this bright light around you. your aura, your energy, your soul, it's radiating. And when you're talking about it, you light up your smile. You're going to really attract a lot of people that you could help. So either write a book, do a podcast, get out there, share your story because you're gonna change the world one person at a time. Love it. That's it. Woo Thank you. Thank you, Matt. I love it. Thank you so much. And we're going to say goodbye and ⁓ how do people reach you if they want to reach out to you? ⁓ like my Instagram. Sure. ⁓ it's George on Insta. J-O-R-G-E on Insta. You can reach me there. ⁓ if you wanna do I give my phone number or not. No, no, no, that's fine. And LinkedIn you're on LinkedIn. Instagram. LinkedIn, George Antonatis. Yes. Okay, perfect. So there they can send you messages. Okay, you don't want any stalkers calling you. Yeah, I don't know. Thank you all. Thank you all so much for joining. Thank you so much, George. A pleasure. Bye, everybody.