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Who Was Davy Crockett? · Dirt Nap City - History's Most Interesting Dead People

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  Kelly: Howdy everybody and welcome to another episode of about interesting dead people.
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• 0:21
  Alex: I'm doing great. Yeah, love to see your smile. It's
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  Kelly: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Kelly: Yeah, a little rough around I'll tell you something happened at my office conditioning went out. And not only did it go out, but I compressor froze. And so all the ice started melting. And ceiling. It was a big mess. So I took a bunch of video of it.
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  Kelly: actually an air conditioning company. So I called them and And then I also sent all the videos to my landlord because back in February. And they sent their people so I had around my place today. And if it's not fixed, you know if fix your AC then
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  Alex: every one that we say we have to actually do. Right.
• 3:39
  Kelly: And and be a guest on other people's. Well, Alex, I you today. He's very interesting. And I think you a couple of these clues.
• 3:47
  Kelly: Are you are you feeling
• 3:52
  Alex: it? Got my thinking cap on. I'm ready. Go. Okay, well,
• 3:55
  Kelly: this man is a man was born in 1786 in Tennessee. And in the Tennessee, US House of Representatives. He he ended up in Texas. In he died in Texas pretty famously.
• 4:18
  Alex: Mm hmm. Is it David Crockett?
• 4:21
  Kelly: Yes, yes. Nice.
• 4:24
  Alex: Right. You know, is it David or Davey? You always see books. But when you call him Dave, you people look at you
• 4:31
  Kelly: Well, he did not like Davy. Oh, really? He actually proposed the Disney version was Davey the you're exactly the iconic version of him.
• 4:41
  Kelly: There was a song movies, lots after him all that stuff. Davy Crockett. But no, he preferred I
• 4:53
  Alex: think he was friends with my, my relative Ben Milan
• 4:57
  Kelly: I think he was yes. Ben Maya him and Davy Crockett They wore similar hats. Talk about, you know, the price of
• 5:09
  Alex: Yeah, yeah. Sounds like a good time. Hazza Well,
• 5:11
  Kelly: well, do you know a lot about David slash Davy
• 5:15
  Alex: Probably just kind of the the Disney broad strokes.
• 5:21
  Kelly: okay. Well, he was born in August on August 17, in he was actually born in a state that no longer exists.
• 5:32
  Alex: Did you know that about him a state that no longer
• 5:35
  Kelly: So he was born in what is now eastern Tennessee. But that area had actually broken away from North Carolina. And Franklin, the State of Franklin. No kidding. I'd ever Franklin. Not Franklin, Tennessee. Not is a State of work out. And it eventually became Tennessee, but it North Carolina. So lots of lots of moving of the borders what's now eastern Tennessee.
• 6:09
  Kelly: And he kind of got known for hunting. Those were his big passions in life.
• 6:17
  Alex: I'm sure they intersect a little bit too. Like the one
• 6:22
  Kelly: He actually was a pretty well known bear hunter.
• 6:26
  Kelly: bears were everywhere in that area. And you know, their They had oil in their skin that could be used. They had there's a lot of stuff you could do with a bear. And I lot more acceptable and ethical. Because you didn't.
• 6:48
  Kelly: for sport. You did it because you had to.
• 6:52
  Alex: And would they eat the bear?
• 6:53
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah, they would eat the bear. They would wear keep them warm. You know. I mean, this was something that doing for a long time. So he, as I said, he was a hunter.
• 7:07
  Kelly: pretty poor. Actually, his father, John Crockett was of and English descent, but mostly French Huguenots, that father's side came from. The mother's side was more known paternal ancestor was named Gabrielle Gustave de kidding. Yeah, so Crockett.
• 7:36
  Kelly: Crockett. Crockett was Crockett ties.
• 7:45
  Alex: An exotic? I
• 7:47
  Kelly: don't know if I'm saying it right. But it's CR o At the end? You think crocodile isn't it? Good Taj?
• 8:00
  Kelly: Crockett, we Americans, you're
• 8:01
  Alex: if you're French Textus.
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  Alex: He,
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  Kelly: he was known to be a guy who was for poor people.
• 8:17
  Kelly: help people who were losing their land. He was also to say sympathetic or empathetic to the Native most people. As a matter of fact, he was the only one to against the Indian Removal Act that that was popular from And I don't know how much you know about the Indian Removal caused the Trail of Tears.
• 8:48
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah, he was the only one to vote against it. He was someone who actually kind of lines. And at the time, that actually made him a little bit Jackson was popular. And a lot of people back then didn't They felt like
• 9:13
  Alex: Andrew was probably he was probably either a friend because they're from the same state. Right? They
• 9:20
  Kelly: were adversaries. Yeah.
• 9:20
  Kelly: He he didn't agree with a lot And actually, that ended up being the thing that got him eventually the reason he left Tennessee and went to Texas,
• 9:35
  Alex: was he like the, like, progressive like politically?
• 9:40
  Kelly: guess you might call him that. I mean, no, he was government. He really didn't like big government and he actually wanted to do away with West Point. I think. He was really just serving rich, rich people's have children, academy? So he kind of he also wanted to give away he wanted excessive pensions to wealthy widows of officers. He was for against spending. Like he was very fiscally conservative.
• 10:24
  Kelly: days, he like I said his father was poor. He grew up ended up working as an indentured servant, his father guy named Jacob Siler to help pay off the family's learned to ride horses. He learned to be a cowboy. He he intended cattle, and that money was used to pay off his imagine, imagine your dad coming to you and saying, go be a cowboy to pay off our debt.
• 11:06
  Alex: And that was kind of common back then.
• 11:10
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah. I think you know, I think kids worked a wasn't as important as it is now. And certainly, they were weight. The he finally came back from doing that. And when Tennessee and his father enrolled him in school, but hooky. David played hooky. And he ended up getting in trouble whip him. And he ran away from home and ended up driving again, that was the second stint
• 11:51
  Alex: was like 14 at this point. Yeah, he
• 11:54
  Kelly: was a little bit older.
• 11:54
  Kelly: In 1802, he went back to away. His father had opened a tavern. And his father was in debt to a guy named Abraham Wilson for $36. Can I just
• 12:14
  Alex: was gonna say I don't think I'd worked that off. He
• 12:19
  Kelly: hired out David again, to pay off that debt. And he Kennedy. And it turned out that while he was working for Kennedy's nice Amy summer. And he kind of fell in love with it turned out that his niece, John Kennedy's niece, was Robert, so that didn't work out. So he actually was part Kennedy son Robert and his niece, Amy summer when they the wedding, he met Margaret elder. Well, he wanted to it turned out that she was engaged to somebody else. So relatives to well, she actually So Margaret elder later told him that she was already engaged. I. So that's he was at a harvest festival.
• 13:23
  Kelly: And he really liked Polly didn't care for him. But he said, You know what, I'm what, I'm just going to do it.
• 13:33
  Kelly: I don't care if the parents going to Polly's house, and he was going to take her away and justice of the peace or, you know, in the courthouse or said you know what, we'll have a wedding here. You're a good apologize to Davey David Crockett, in order to marry
• 13:58
  Alex: There's a guy that we talked about whose mother Yes,
• 14:02
  Kelly: yes. She She was always putting down his wife like she was 30s.
• 14:09
  Alex: It was Einsteins mom that didn't like his wife. So episode again. That was a good one. Yep.
• 14:17
  Kelly: That was a good one. So they ended up living on land had their first son John Wesley Crockett, who actually Later on lots of government people in this. They had had Margaret Finley, who they call Polly Crockett. But then died and doesn't say how she died, but she died. And he another woman named Elizabeth Patton, and had lots more kids children. Yeah, So all this is going on, he ends up joining mounted rifleman, which is part of the second regimen of And he gets involved in a couple of wars. One been a war this is before he had, you know, kind of declared his, Removal Act and stuff like that this is earlier on in his time, the War of 1812 is going on. And he got involved in both the creek Indian War, as well as the War of 1812. But of this, that he didn't like fighting against Native And he left the military in 1815.
• 15:58
  Alex: Oh, well. I made an impression on him.
• 16:01
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah, I think there was a thing called the happened in Mississippi Territory in 1813. And that the Creek Indians were massacred. And it brought on well as then the War of 1812 was going on with the British Lots of war,
• 16:23
  Alex: I suppose if you're in the military, and at that time domestic fighting with Native Americans, then trying to and kept on going with the, with the British, but mostly
• 16:41
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah. They weren't, like CIP shipping that. Right. Right. In so he got out of the military in Lawrence County, and he ended up becoming a commissioner county's boundaries. And then he became justice of the was elected Lieutenant colonel of the Tennessee militia. And a bunch of businesses, and having a lot of trouble actually left he quit his job, it's just that the piece and just to focus on business and family
• 17:32
  Alex: actually don't know what Justice of the Peace does having to do with marriages,
• 17:38
  Kelly: just as the peace may issue warrants of search and hearings, serve as ex officio notary public, perform coroner in counties where there is no provision for a kind of a jack of all trades.
• 17:55
  Alex: Exactly. Miscellaneous job.
• 17:57
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah, he did, I
• 17:59
  Alex: think usually. Right.
• 17:59
  Alex: Well,
• 18:01
  Kelly: I think I think they are elected. And I think that probably more of a thing back then. Because you needed hats. You know, we have a lot more specialty these days, I a thing, right? The Jaypee?
• 18:18
  Alex: I think so.
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  Kelly: So after, after all of that, and 1821, he decided to 1821, he ran for a seat in the Tennessee General Assembly.
• 18:36
  Kelly: appointed to a couple of committees. And he kind of started to grow. He kind of and that's also when he storytelling can be used not just for bear stories, or used to win people's hearts and minds and get elected,
• 18:56
  Alex: but the hunting and all that was going on other stuff, right?
• 19:02
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah, I think I think he never stopped doing adventure, a man and outdoorsman. And and he did killed over 100 Bears in his time, which I don't imagine took a while you don't probably kill more than a bear think,
• 19:19
  Alex: Oh, I'm sure there's never an occasion where 100 once.
• 19:24
  Kelly: You can take them all.
• 19:24
  Kelly: That would be, that'd be a mean, that's like boss level in a video game. Right?
• 19:31
  Alex: But if you were to ask me, if anybody had ever done Crockett did that he was the king of the wild frontier.
• 19:38
  Kelly: He was he was, but he didn't like to work Devi. He up getting into government and was, you know, again, all of different kind of local governments. As I said before, West Point. He felt like it was money going to the sons of against $100,000 pensions that were given to the widows of He opposed the mill here oppose the Indian removable actually got a note a letter from John Ross, who was the expressing his thanks for that being the only one to vote for thing for him, actually, like most people back then were not Americans, most white people I should say. He ended up he lost the first time but won the second time, and served in Until 1835. And in 1835, I think a lot of his views, government, or for the people at the time, he got voted out.
• 21:17
  Kelly: famous quote about coming to Texas, do you know that quote?
• 21:24
  Alex: Let's see. Is that something about you can tell Yeah, tell your enemies to go to hell. I'm going to Texas,
• 21:37
  Kelly: I told the people of my district, I would serve them But if not, they may go to hell. And I will go to Texas.
• 21:47
  Alex: see that on bumper stickers down here, sometimes, hell and going to Texas that was
• 21:52
  Kelly: that was Davy Crockett, that said that not even a was actually, you know, in, in full disclosure, not to paint slaves. But he was never never had a record of being either as an institution. But he did own slaves. So obviously, he, the moral high ground to not own slaves, which, you know, I understandable back then. But it was common back then.
• 22:28
  Alex: Definitely a blemish on his record, though, let's say
• 22:33
  Kelly: He did end up coming to Texas. Now. After all of this.
• 22:39
  Kelly: was going on in Tennessee. He got disenchanted with the fact He got disenchanted with his kind of rivalry with rivalry Texas Revolution was was going on in 1834. And he actually if Jackson chose Martin Van Buren, if Jackson successor come to Texas, he would leave.
• 23:07
  Kelly: And
• 23:09
  Alex: remember, Texas was a different country at the time going to a different country.
• 23:12
  Alex: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Kelly: It's like going to Canada or going to Mexico now.
• 23:17
  Alex: So we're in Texas, did he go?
• 23:20
  Kelly: Well, he, first of all, let me I'll get to that. But got there, and then it'll make more sense. So he was friends Ben McCullough, you've heard that name? Maybe no. There's Boy Scout camp, outside of outside of Texas, one of the Volunteers that he that came to Texas with Davy Crockett.
• 23:52
  Kelly: an independent nation. They came because they thought they nation, just like the United States had been before them.
• 24:01
  Kelly: 1830s and do the same thing with Texas. But fighter.
• 24:05
  Alex: Max was going to be just a better version of the US.
• 24:08
  Kelly: I think that's what he hoped for. So he ended up And he had a group of men from Tennessee Volunteers that were get independence. And also, I think they were going to get status status. You know, all these things that come with he had a young daughter, his youngest child actually was actually had this quote when she talked about the last time he was dressed in a hunting suit, wearing a coonskin cap presented to him by friends in Philadelphia. He seemed very away, and he seemed confident that he would soon have us all plan had been he was going to go to Texas help Texas get in land, get a bunch of money, get a bunch of status, become president, you know, and then he would send for his family.
• 25:09
  Alex: Bring his boys with him.
• 25:09
  Alex: Ben Marlon was one of those
• 25:12
  Kelly: think. Yeah, yep. Yep.
• 25:14
  Alex: I just coonskin cap.
• 25:14
  Alex: Yep. And by the way, I had a Did you kept it in a pickle jar?
• 25:22
  Kelly: Do you have a picture of that?
• 25:24
  Alex: I don't think I do that pictures weren't that up? But it had the tail.
• 25:32
  Kelly: Was that was it real?
• 25:34
  Alex: I doubt it. I doubt it probably bought it at
• 25:38
  Kelly: I mean, I mean, was it made for fake fur? Or was it
• 25:43
  Alex: Yeah, I'm sure it was fake. And then it had a snap But if you do, or without the tail, the tail it looks very
• 25:52
  Kelly: it's about to say it looked like one of those are very warm, though. No, but
• 25:58
  Alex: it's funny. I don't remember wearing it as much as pickle jar.
• 26:04
  Kelly: Wow. Why do you gotta keep it in a pickle jar?
• 26:07
  Alex: I don't know. It just never occurred to me until weird that like that was the case for it was a pickle jar.
• 26:13
  Kelly: I have a theory. I have a theory. Maybe it was real.
• 26:20
  Kelly: critters out of it. You know what I mean? Like, like fleas,
• 26:24
  Alex: or kept the smell awake of the dead raccoon that was
• 26:28
  Kelly: well, it just smelled like pickles. Right?
• 26:30
  Alex: It kind of did smell a pickle.
• 26:32
  Kelly: I mean, it was it actually like a Vlasic pickle wasn't like a store bought pickle jar that had never had legitimately
• 26:40
  Alex: the trick was to jam it into pickle jar and then put fur kind of hanging out of it.
• 26:44
  Alex: And then and then and then the keep the tail in it or out of it.
• 26:52
  Kelly: Alright, if Alex's mom is listening right now, and I find a picture of Alex with the with coonskin cap. Yeah,
• 27:03
  Alex: was the outfit. That was the rocky outfit.
• 27:06
  Kelly: I feel like we're a little young for that. I feel parents or
• 27:11
  Alex: it was Mickey Mouse Club in the 50s
• 27:14
  Kelly: I think right? Yeah.
• 27:14
  Kelly: Yeah, I feel like we I had that sort of Davy Crockett Daniel Boone, you know, Jim, no. I mean, I respect all those guys. But really,
• 27:28
  Alex: I did. You know,
• 27:30
  Kelly: I was I was more Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader Han traveled with 30 well armed men to tennis to Jackson, got more men and ended up going to Little Rock, and, you know, talked about the independence of Texas and politics were and how he was going to, you know, start a with him. So he went to Nacogdoches, you asked where that could that could doshas.
• 28:05
  Kelly: Yeah, I guess that would make at that time, he had 65 men with him. January 14 1836, he with the Provisional Government of Texas that volunteer and that if they did volunteer, they would each get their for their volunteering.
• 28:32
  Kelly: And so they, you know, to make on February. On February 6, they not all of them it was a point, it was like six or seven of them rode to San outside of town and that's bear for anyone who's not from County. How do you spell bear County?
• 28:59
  Alex: B x AR Yes.
• 29:02
  Kelly: I don't know if that's French or Spanish or what but kind of bear that he killed.
• 29:07
  Kelly: This was like Bear county BX actually Bexar County. So they arrived at the I guess they Alamo mission. So they arrived on February 8 1836. And then up?
• 29:32
  Alex: Santa Ana, yeah,
• 29:35
  Kelly: not Santa Claus. Santa Ana on February 23. Just less after Davy Crockett, and in his little group arrive at the have about 300 Mexican shoulders showed up and they started at constant bombardment. Their Their goal there because they knew trouble was brewing and they Cucaracha right?
• 30:09
  Alex: Yeah, no kidding.
• 30:11
  Kelly: So what their, what their technique was Santa and his artillery and start from a far distance around the Alamo fortified. I mean, if you've been to it, it's everybody they always say it's smaller than they smaller
• 30:29
  Alex: than, yeah, I think the one that they used in the times the size of the it's a church, you know, it's a Yeah,
• 30:38
  Kelly: So they started with the artillery a little bit moved closer and closer and closer and just kept the Santa Anas men, the Mexican soldiers crossed the San very near like within less than 100 yards from the Alamo to possibly assault the Alamo or to be able to get some and, and guns. But at that time, Crockett, and his men them, and were able to fight them back. So these men who had to be fought back. And Davy Crockett was one of the led that sort of repel the first time. But at that point, was the commander in the Alamo, told them to cease ammunition. And so he wanted them to save it, like let him shoot at him. Imagine that you're being like, You got men like, no, no, don't fire.
• 31:53
  Kelly: That'd be hard to do.
• 31:55
  Alex: Yeah, yeah. That didn't go so well, either.
• 32:01
  Kelly: That's right. So actually, Travis, put out They would do these things like they would kind of start them and send somebody out the other side to you know, like a sent messengers to James Fannin, who commanded a group Fannin decided that it was too risky, and wasn't going to County. So But
• 32:36
  Alex: sir, I think Ben Milo, I think he captured Goliad. And and then he died on the way to the Alamo.
• 32:46
  Kelly: So so even though fan and if you live in Houston, and there's a fan in St. Right and fan and this fan and that And at the time, I think they were called Texians te X i n i going to send his bandwidth 50 of them decided to go anyway, just go help out. So they headed towards the Alamo. They 3, which is about 35 miles from the Alamo. And they of men who were also coming to help the Alamo. So there was a to going to help. And then they started skirmishing with closer and closer to the Alamo. And they actually Alamo. Because on March 3, let's see what day was it? No, daylight. No, sorry. March 5, early in the morning, the lasted 90 minutes when they attacked. And Santa Ana after the fighting was over, ordered his men to take the supposedly all stacked, piled with wood and burned. And that there for a couple of years afterward. And then finally, again, who returned to bear County and had a local put them into a coffin that was built and put the names of that coffin was buried and it's never been found.
• 34:51
  Alex: But Crockett survived.
• 34:51
  Alex: No,
• 34:53
  Kelly: no Crockett did not survive he every every man killed. Okay, so though, and it's kind of a debate about There are certain accounts there was a man who was a Mexican army who says that when they found Crocketts body Mexican soldiers corpses around him and a knife buried was buried in one of them. And then there's also another captured and assassinated like that some of the men who were burned.
• 35:38
  Alex: So I moved to Texas after we were supposed to take took that.
• 35:44
  Kelly: Yeah, sixth grade.
• 35:45
  Alex: Did you took it right,
• 35:47
  Kelly: Texas or Texas ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY states.
• 35:51
  Alex: And a lot of time talking about David Crockett.
• 35:55
  Kelly: yeah, a lot of times Stephen F. Austin Davy
• 36:02
  Alex: All the big ones. Yeah, yeah.
• 36:04
  Kelly: Yeah, I mean, at the time, the story had always taken Texas history in like 1980 Maybe 82 I don't even grade. But you know, they they really pushed a very pro white guys did all the great things kind of narrative on read counter stories, like there's a guy named Hey, Suz the memoirs of guy named Jose Enrique de la Pena, who was a present at the Alamo who said that basically the men were who have made that assertion or have translated those books have actually gotten threatening phone calls and you dare talk about Davy Crockett like that? Wow.
• 37:06
  Alex: Wow. I still don't understand the Travis hold
• 37:13
  Kelly: Well, it was it was they were low on ammunition during the siege. This was before the siege. Okay, what several days before the siege when the men were creeping was able to put repel the first group of men it was Travis said hold your fire.
• 37:32
  Kelly: But then the reinforcements the Alamo and never able to save them. So. So he ended up ironic about all that he only spent three months in Texas.
• 37:48
  Kelly: Crockett as this Texas hero, but he actually only ever
• 37:54
  Alex: Oh, that was traveling from NACA doshas to San
• 37:58
  Kelly: Yeah, yeah. I mean, basically, once he got to the dead pretty quickly. But but, you know, by all accounts, slaves, which I'm not excusing in any way, but he did seem to know, he did try to pass legislation to help defend the at the time that land grants and the way that land complicated for most people.
• 38:28
  Kelly: And it was easy to take take their land away. And he fought against that. He did Removal Act, which you know, I say Indian Removal Act, called. And, and, and didn't want to fight in the creek war had respect for them. And you know, said said at the time, than he did. Men. Yeah,
• 38:54
  Alex: yeah. Well, like a lot of people. We talk about in complicated times. Do you know who owns a lot of Alamo anybody outside of Texas? Do you know this Richard musician, and the frequent but of my jokes. Phil Collins.
• 39:20
  Kelly: Really? Yeah, I think maybe I have heard that he Alamo Hmm,
• 39:26
  Alex: I think he was touring one time with Genesis came to the whole notion saw
• 39:32
  Kelly: Ozzie there doing his thing and was like dude, not
• 39:36
  Alex: I think as he amassed more and more wealth, he just up the stuff and he has a pretty big collection. I think stuff at the Alamo is on loan from Phil Collins. Wow.
• 39:51
  Kelly: Wow. Rancho Su Su sudio. Which which is which is guys are gonna die. Yeah.
• 39:58
  Kelly: Well, you know, he did leave a name that a lot of people I think have heard of. There was alluded to earlier, he was portrayed in Disney by a guy Davy Crockett at Disneyland as well as in the films. They Davy Crockett stories into a miniseries that eventually of turned that into the film.
• 40:30
  Kelly: Also, interestingly, in 2009, they tested the idea that Davy Crockett could split a bullet axe. And they concluded it was it was plausible. Oh,
• 40:50
  Alex: nice. Yeah. So so let's do something now. You just who was a Tennessee politician who left the US for a better
• 41:05
  Kelly: help any Bennett the internet Al Gore.
• 41:08
  Alex: You just told me a nice story about a politician can mentioned the Disney thing.
• 41:17
  Alex: Why don't you Google the was the theme song to sing it.
• 41:22
  Alex: Uh, you know,
• 41:25
  Kelly: hey, V Davy Crockett King the wild frontier.
• 41:30
  Alex: Do you know all the words? Yeah, yeah. Do you know seeing the store the song might have a different take on you know about mostly about killing bears?
• 41:42
  Kelly: Yeah, kill them a bar when he was only three. Yeah,
• 41:47
  Alex: So this is going to tell us what, what what Disney Crockett.
• 41:54
  Kelly: Okay, well, this this is the lyrics bye bye. Oh my Yeah. So I thought based on a born on a mountaintop and the land of the free raised in the woods. So he knew Arey was only three. Davy Davy Crockett king of the wild
• 42:14
  Alex: So you could probably kill 100 Bears if you started
• 42:19
  Kelly: they have the word bear in here b apostrophe AR they I am J U N the engine war.
• 42:24
  Kelly: They have fiddling Holden, but Yeah. He heard of Houston and Austin and so to Texas planes t had to go. Where freedom was Phyton another fo and they Davy Crockett, the man who didn't have no fear.
• 42:54
  Alex: Don't think Houston and Austin were called Houston and about the men.
• 43:00
  Kelly: All right, kids about families. Yeah, interesting handed through the engine war till the creeks was whipped was handling the risky chore made himself a legend kind of goes against it. This is saying he fought. He did didn't like, like, it is what I understand. But but that
• 43:29
  Alex: was a time when the cowboy and Indian movies were, or the other. Right? There was no nuance there. Yeah,
• 43:40
  Kelly: well, you know, he definitely. He definitely had played by, as I said Fess Parker, Jack and Perrin. John and in 1960 he was played by Johnny Cash in 1988 film in the thunder. He's played by John Schneider. You know that Oh, Duke. Yep. Scott Wickware not sure who that is actually.
• 44:12
  Kelly: Thornton. In what? The 2004 remake of The Alamo? Oh,
• 44:19
  Alex: right. Right. Yeah.
• 44:22
  Kelly: And then, finally, his personal motto. You ever heard you're right. And then go ahead.
• 44:34
  Alex: That's good. That's good. I mean, you can't argue
• 44:38
  Kelly: that was adopted by the Dallas Morning News.
• 44:41
  Alex: Make sure you're right.
• 44:41
  Alex: Oh, really? That's their right. But go ahead. It's like gern their journalism
• 44:51
  Kelly: after you do Darn tooten Just All right. Well, out. Get us a little Texas in here. pew pew pew hope yourself anybody that you want to hear about, send us a note you really want to join us and have yourself fun time killing in and cushion you can join our merry band of Tennessee I with this. Join us on Patreon
• 45:37
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