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Hobonation From Singer Songwriter Brandon Reid Allen · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: There we go. Hey, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Today's help my brother?
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  Speaker 1: It's been too long, you know, it's been too long,
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  Speaker 1: been too long, man, Outside of creating music, What have
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  Speaker 1: you been up to?
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  Speaker 2: Man? You know, I'm just doing to do right grinding.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the fun part about life. When you can
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  Speaker 1: say been doing it. That means you're in control. You're
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  Speaker 1: the one signing the stage. That's got to be quite fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the deal with Sony and all that
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  Speaker 3: when we talked last time. So I decided to just
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  Speaker 3: start my own little label and release it myself and
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  Speaker 3: just kind of do my own gig.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I do love that. See see, that's to
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  Speaker 1: me is what it's all about, because you know, you
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  Speaker 1: walk and talk with the everyday average person and you
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  Speaker 1: live that life. Now here comes this record company and
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  Speaker 1: they don't walk your life. How are they supposed to
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  Speaker 1: understand what you're doing?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 1: And I've now that you're in control saying yes, I
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  Speaker 1: feel it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I finally got my master's and my publishing back,
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  Speaker 3: and so I've been releasing a lot of new stuff
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  Speaker 3: as well as uh, well you remember.
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  Speaker 2: Covid hit when we were doing Boxcard Junkie. Yes, Sony
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  Speaker 2: was in control of So no, it's it's nice to
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  Speaker 2: have that power back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, I mean, it's still challenging
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  Speaker 3: as independent now because you don't have the funding from
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  Speaker 3: the labels. But at the same time, it's cool that
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  Speaker 3: you know that you have creative control and all that.
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  Speaker 1: So then what was it like to sit down and
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  Speaker 1: start bringing to life Hobo Nation?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man? That started a long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: It just been a passion of mine because there was
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  Speaker 3: a time that I was I was out there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I write about that, sing about that, and met a
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  Speaker 3: lot of great people out there. So I just wanted
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  Speaker 3: to get this vision going, you know, and still working
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  Speaker 3: on it. But yeah, man, I think good things are
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  Speaker 3: going to come.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's there's a great vibration that comes from it
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  Speaker 1: in the way that not only have I always been
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  Speaker 1: inspired by the Hobo, but the thing is is that
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  Speaker 1: that you you speak the language and then so that
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  Speaker 1: we can all understand what their lifestyle is and that
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  Speaker 1: for men, any many of them, it is a choice
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  Speaker 1: to be doing what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and uh, you know, I always say, the way
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  Speaker 3: things are going, there's not a lot of us that
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  Speaker 3: aren't one pay check away, you know, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: it's a real thing, and it's you know, for a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them, it's it's surely not a choice, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and people should you know, uh, you know, speak for them,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 1: See, and that to me that you're calling because when
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  Speaker 1: you listen to any of your music, you can feel
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  Speaker 1: something from it. I mean, I mean, for instance, like
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  Speaker 1: you just recently posted a quote here and it says,
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  Speaker 1: when your soul outgrows the situation, the universe creates an
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  Speaker 1: exit that speaks, and that that also says a lot
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  Speaker 1: about your music. It speaks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true, but yeahhere.
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  Speaker 1: Does it come from is it? Are you are you meditating?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you taking long walks? Where does music
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  Speaker 1: start with you? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Man, three o'clock in the morning, keeping me awake?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you got to have a no, no pad
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  Speaker 3: but by the dresser.
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  Speaker 2: But no, but seriously, Uh, you know, it's just always
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  Speaker 2: been in me and uh.
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  Speaker 3: Ever since I was a kid. And but yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean I try to you know, I try to keep grounding.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Living by the ocean helps.
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  Speaker 1: I love that kind of a sound the ocean each night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very, very blessed in that sense for sure.
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  Speaker 1: One of the songs that's coming out is Still. I Know.
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  Speaker 1: What I love about this song is the strong roll
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  Speaker 1: in and then it eases right into you know, the blues.
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  Speaker 1: I can feel some blues and stuff in there, but
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  Speaker 1: you're really bringing a theatrical vibe to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's because it's an emotional song, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: it should it should convey that. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because there's a lot of heartfelt lyrics and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: empty mornings that came into that song. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: write everything I live. I just don't write songs, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Nashville or whatever, and nothing against them, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, I just don't sit down and write a song.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's truly channeling or from the heart or spirit
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  Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, please do that move. There's more with Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Reid Allen coming up next. The name of the EP
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  Speaker 1: is Hobonation. The name of the song still I know
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  Speaker 1: you are back with Brandon Reid Allen. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: songs sometimes, when when you write like that, are really
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  Speaker 1: like short stories because or would we call it this
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  Speaker 1: short short story? Because a song like can be over
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  Speaker 1: with in two minutes and forty five seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think the art of it is is simplicity, which
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  Speaker 3: is harder than.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: You hear certain bands that just go crazy with our
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  Speaker 3: pigios and all this stuff, and it's great, it's complex
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  Speaker 3: and it's you know, masterful, But I think simplicity, honestly
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  Speaker 3: is one of the most difficult things to put.
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  Speaker 2: In a couple of.
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  Speaker 3: Minutes, you know, a few minutes, you know, and tell
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  Speaker 3: the whole story, you know, like for instance, shadow Man, that's.
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  Speaker 2: That's a whole life in two minutes. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: See I always look at things like that and go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's our way of just hitting repeats, and then we
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  Speaker 1: hit repeating and live it all over again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when when you're putting together the music are you
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  Speaker 1: are you engineering it as well? And if so, does
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  Speaker 1: that make you a more of a perfectionist now that
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  Speaker 1: you're in one hundred percent control?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm perfectionists to to default, and I think most
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  Speaker 3: most musicians are.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Well, I would hope, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But but a lot of times, and I've said this before,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a writer downer. I just hear it. And sometimes
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  Speaker 3: a song can take thirty minutes. You just hear it
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of you know, three o'clock in the
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  Speaker 3: morning or something like empty Chair and that's how that came.
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  Speaker 3: And then but then other ones like hey mama, that
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  Speaker 3: took nine months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's just I always wait for it
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  Speaker 2: to come.
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  Speaker 3: I don't rush the song, you know, I don't you
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  Speaker 3: know how a lot of people you got to finish
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  Speaker 3: the song, you got to do this, you got to
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  Speaker 3: do that really quick, and I let it finish yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes I've noticed songs I've written years ago will
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  Speaker 3: end up being in my bridge in a new song
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  Speaker 3: and just writtle you know.
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  Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you just don't know, you know, like I
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  Speaker 3: just wrote one called Home.
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  Speaker 2: And that bridge was five years old.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you know, but I never knew, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know what to do with it, and it worked
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  Speaker 3: out perfectly, you know with the song. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of that song, Hey Mama, that video for that,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to know where you film those wide open
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  Speaker 1: fields because I got a vibe that it was somewhere
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  Speaker 1: near Montana, maybe Wyoming, Texas, Texas. I'll give you that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's wide open country though, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know, which is funny because it
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  Speaker 3: was Houston, which is nothing but pavement, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: you go a little you know, outside of town and
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  Speaker 3: then it's it's all open country. Just it's beautiful, you know,
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  Speaker 3: big skies and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And you also included, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: acoustic guitar in the bar. I thought that was very
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  Speaker 1: level head. It didn't very real when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: authentic musicians that it does start in those bars.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, you want to know. The funny party about
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  Speaker 2: that was in the video. You see the.
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  Speaker 3: Little dog, yeah, in the car, so nobody knew. They
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  Speaker 3: thought I was busking. They didn't know I was filming
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  Speaker 3: a video. So no, this is the cool part. So
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  Speaker 3: what happened was We're like, so we want to do
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  Speaker 3: the open field, but we got to get down to
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  Speaker 3: the city. So I said, hey, take me to a bypass,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and somebody, some little sweet lady even gave
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  Speaker 3: me a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, because they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Really see the cameras. They didn't know that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was filming a video. They just thought that I
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  Speaker 3: was busking, you know. And it was super cool. And
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  Speaker 3: then I went into that little place you're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: and that's how I got to know all the employees
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  Speaker 3: and let me go back and that's cool the kitchen
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  Speaker 3: and flip burgers with them and sing songs.
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  Speaker 2: For them and you know, and they just loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It was really super cool. It was a very community
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing. It was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. See right there. It brings us to that point of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, every music project brings you something brand new
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  Speaker 1: to discover. So even that story right there is something
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  Speaker 1: brand new to discover and you did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was super cool, man, it was you know.
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  Speaker 2: And then you just see kindness and it wasn't stage.
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  Speaker 3: That little lady gave me, you know, that little and
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  Speaker 3: she was like eighty, She rolled her rounded down and
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  Speaker 3: gave me a dollar.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, it just shows human kindness.
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  Speaker 3: And then how they let me in their venues to
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  Speaker 3: film and let me cook and stuff and just listen
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  Speaker 3: to the music.
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  Speaker 2: And it was, you know, just like I said, very
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  Speaker 2: very cool.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Where can people go to find out more about you,
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  Speaker 1: more about Hobo Nation and everything else that you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they just google me Brandon Reid, Alan ri E
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  Speaker 3: I d Alan or Facebook or I'm not really huge
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  Speaker 3: on TikTok stuff. I know that's the thing. I'm working
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  Speaker 3: on that. But and I've got an imaging agent by
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  Speaker 3: the way, Rachel Ryder, and she's, uh, she's handled a
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  Speaker 3: lot of stuff for me. So I was blessed to
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  Speaker 3: meet her in Florida because I was in Nashville a
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  Speaker 3: year ago and then I decided to go to Florida
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  Speaker 3: and to go up the coast, and uh, now I'm
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  Speaker 3: in North Carolina just you know, doing that thing beach.
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  Speaker 1: Now now what part of North Carolina are you in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on an island which is chippy.
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  Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm north Top Cell Beach, Wilmington, you know
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  Speaker 3: whommy Yeah yeah, okay, so I'm just about an hour
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  Speaker 3: north of Wilmington. And uh, it's a cool little island.
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  Speaker 2: But you get you know, you got one bridge to
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  Speaker 2: you to get.
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  Speaker 1: Over North Carolina. That's North Carolina. That's usome.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, the weather's crazy. Yeah, it's beautiful then and
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  Speaker 3: a but it's really cool scene.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Wow, Well, man, you got to come back
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  Speaker 1: to this show anytime in the future. The door is
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  Speaker 1: always going to be open for you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: And I want to give a shout out to Beach
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  Speaker 3: Star Entertainment too for hooking this up and hooking up
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  Speaker 3: the gigs. And you know, she's got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: great artists.
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  Speaker 2: You make sure you check her out.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent man, be brilliant today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sir, you too, Brother,