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- 0:03Ejaaz: Elon is playing Game of Thrones yet again, this time releasing a new AI chip
- 0:08Ejaaz: that is going to power his RoboTaxi, his new Tesla Optimus Primes,
- 0:12Ejaaz: and all of his devices and cars that he launches right now.
- 0:15Ejaaz: And the reason why this is so important is this is going to contend directly with Nvidia.
- 0:21Ejaaz: He's coming for Jensen Huang's throat.
- 0:23Ejaaz: But in other news, he also released this new product called the Megablock,
- 0:27Ejaaz: which consists of Megapacks, which can power everything from homes to massive towns.
- 0:34Ejaaz: But the reason why this is so important is it's gonna unlock 50% of the energy
- 0:39Ejaaz: and power that the US and the world currently does not have access to.
- 0:43Ejaaz: And that is so, so important.
- 0:45Ejaaz: But starting off with these new AI chips called Tesla's AI-5 chip,
- 0:51Ejaaz: which is supposedly meant to be 40 times better than their current AI-4 chips.
- 0:55Ejaaz: But don't take my word for it.
- 0:57Ejaaz: Take it from the man himself. And we're finalizing the design of AI5,
- 1:02Ejaaz: which will be an immense jump from AI4.
- 1:06Ejaaz: By some metrics, the improvement in AI5 will be 40 times better than AI4.
- 1:13Ejaaz: Wow. So 40%, 40 times.
- 1:18Ejaaz: And this is because we work so closely at a very fine-grained level on the AI
- 1:24Ejaaz: software and the AI hardware.
- 1:26Ejaaz: Work josh i know that you watched the entire presentation for the ai5 chips
- 1:30Ejaaz: and for the transformer stuff i want to hear your take before we go any further.
- 1:34Josh: Uh yeah we'll start one thing at a time we'll do the ai chips
- 1:37Josh: first because those are freaking awesome so ai chips
- 1:40Josh: have been big a big part of tesla since the beginning of the
- 1:43Josh: company when you require autopilot in cars it means you
- 1:46Josh: need a lot of processing a lot of inference power on these chips to
- 1:49Josh: run locally on the vehicles ai5 is the natural extension of
- 1:52Josh: what they've been working on so if you've owned a tesla you're familiar with
- 1:55Josh: the tesla they started with ai1 they went up to 2.5 3
- 1:58Josh: 3.5 now we're at four which is currently shipping on
- 2:01Josh: all vehicles hardware five is a slight change
- 2:04Josh: in the strategy because previously tesla had these two domains
- 2:07Josh: of experts in the world of ai and chip fabrication they
- 2:10Josh: had their dojo team which was building this like commercial
- 2:14Josh: infrastructure arm and then they had the ai chip
- 2:17Josh: infrastructure team that was building the chips that actually went in the vehicles what they
- 2:20Josh: did recently is they merged the two together into a single
- 2:23Josh: ai fabrication team and they are working solely on
- 2:26Josh: ai5 and ai6 now what makes ai5 so special well aside from it being much faster
- 2:32Josh: than ai4 which is currently running on vehicles like elon just described ai5
- 2:36Josh: also does this interesting thing where they're starting to actually use it for
- 2:40Josh: real-time inference in data centers as well so an interesting thing that happens with
- 2:45Josh: AI5 that I don't think a lot of people are going to recognize,
- 2:48Josh: and I want to kind of draw a tie to Apple, is that they now own the vertical
- 2:53Josh: integration of this hardware chip.
- 2:54Josh: So, Ejaz, if you remember previously, Apple used to use Intel chips for their MacBooks.
- 2:59Josh: When you had a MacBook Pro, you used an Intel chip. And it worked really well
- 3:02Josh: until Apple rolled out the M-series chips.
- 3:05Josh: And when they put those chips in
- 3:06Josh: a MacBook, suddenly I no longer needed my 65-pound PC to render a video.
- 3:11Josh: All I needed was my tiny little macbook and my battery life
- 3:14Josh: doubled the processing power quadrupled everything about
- 3:17Josh: the device got so much better because it was vertically integrated into
- 3:20Josh: the system they own the entire stack from the hardware to software and everything
- 3:23Josh: in between this is tesla's attempt at the m1 chip but
- 3:27Josh: for robotics so tesla currently has two arms of
- 3:30Josh: real compute real world compute and that's
- 3:32Josh: their autonomy in the cars and autonomy in the robots ai5 and
- 3:36Josh: shortly soon after ai6 will be the actual chip that runs in
- 3:39Josh: both of those things it's a universal chip that exists to
- 3:42Josh: run local inference on any sort of autonomous hardware device and it's going
- 3:46Josh: to be really freaking fast really impressive and it'll it'll be small enough
- 3:50Josh: that it could fit into all of these smaller devices so i think that's why this
- 3:53Josh: is a big deal is this is very much apple's m-series chip moment uh but for tesla
- 3:58Josh: which i think is really cool and super super exciting yeah
- 4:01Ejaaz: Um i was reading up on uh a few of like the important stats about this new chip
- 4:05Ejaaz: and I read that it can basically service up to 250 billion parameter models,
- 4:11Ejaaz: which isn't the largest models we've ever quoted on this show, Josh.
- 4:15Ejaaz: We've been talking about like trillion parameter models coming from like the
- 4:18Ejaaz: likes of, I don't know, Kimi K2 out of China and stuff like that.
- 4:20Ejaaz: But I think the important part here is the efficiency that comes from this chips.
- 4:25Ejaaz: I believe this is like the cheapest silicon per power watt chip that would exist
- 4:30Ejaaz: theoretically once they start mass producing it.
- 4:33Ejaaz: I think it's slated for 2026 out of TSMC, which is close to another big AI hardware giant, Josh, right?
- 4:42Ejaaz: And that is NVIDIA. And it got me thinking about NVIDIA as a whole,
- 4:48Ejaaz: which basically has had the linchpin on any
- 4:51Ejaaz: kind of AI GPU or chip that
- 4:54Ejaaz: is needed from some of the biggest players right open ai anthropic
- 4:57Ejaaz: um google they all use um and
- 5:00Ejaaz: rely on nvidia this tiny company which is producing all these
- 5:03Ejaaz: kinds of things not tiny company but is manufacturing all these
- 5:06Ejaaz: kinds of things on a tiny island called taiwan uh
- 5:09Ejaaz: via tsmc and so there's never really been
- 5:12Ejaaz: some kind of major competitor there have been a few
- 5:15Ejaaz: attempts at this out of china because they haven't had access to
- 5:18Ejaaz: nvidia stuff um but they've never really gotten
- 5:21Ejaaz: anywhere and now we're seeing a real challenger to the throne which hasn't materialized
- 5:26Ejaaz: just yet but has plans to do that and i was checking out this video um which
- 5:31Ejaaz: uh really kind of like summarizes what elon is trying to pull off here and maybe
- 5:34Ejaaz: we can play it super quickly what constellation of all these little components fits.
- 5:41Ejaaz: And then he figures out, oh, this Optimus Teams is this, and RoboTex is this, and this, and this.
- 5:45Ejaaz: Oh, we actually don't need this NVIDIA thing. We can build this into one chip,
- 5:49Ejaaz: and then it matches the Samsung constellation, and then we tweak it a little bit more.
- 5:53Josh: Boom.
- 5:53Ejaaz: And that's what I mean with reality engineering. So what he's referencing here
- 5:58Ejaaz: is the current setup for Tesla and all the devices and machines that they build,
- 6:03Ejaaz: is it all requires different chips with slightly different architectures, right?
- 6:08Ejaaz: And as you mentioned earlier, Josh, since kind of like August,
- 6:12Ejaaz: at least that's been public knowledge, he being Elon has started merging all
- 6:16Ejaaz: of his teams that are building these different kind of chip architectures into
- 6:19Ejaaz: one team to focus on creating one mega chip.
- 6:23Ejaaz: And call me a low IQ person, but the thing that immediately pops into my head
- 6:27Ejaaz: is the Iron Man kind of like sparkling glass that's in the center of his chest.
- 6:32Ejaaz: And I'm thinking of this all powerful core that basically can power anything
- 6:36Ejaaz: from his robotaxis to his Optimus Prime robots, which are being teased and stuff
- 6:40Ejaaz: like that. And I think that that is super powerful.
- 6:43Ejaaz: Building that in-house is going to be a huge investment and probably a very
- 6:48Ejaaz: risky endeavor, but probably there's no one better for the job than Elon.
- 6:52Ejaaz: I mean, Josh, do you think similarly or am I kind of like being too much in
- 6:56Ejaaz: my fantasy brain right now?
- 6:57Josh: No, no, that's right. That's right. They're going to do it. They're going to
- 6:59Josh: do it. It's going to be remarkable. AI5 is going to be
- 7:02Josh: pretty great um in terms of raw compute about eight
- 7:05Josh: times more powerful than ai4 ai6 i believe
- 7:08Josh: is um what has been teased as being the real game changer
- 7:11Josh: that's where we're really going to see the world start to shift that's probably
- 7:14Josh: going to be the one at mass scale with optimus that's going to be the one where you
- 7:17Josh: have full robotaxes all around the world i do think
- 7:20Josh: that i might disagree in one point in the sense that i don't
- 7:23Josh: know if it's an nvidia killer or if it's going to take any sort of market
- 7:26Josh: share from nvidia outside of just the sales that tesla gives
- 7:29Josh: to nvidia because if you're if you're a company all you really
- 7:32Josh: want is gpus and all you really want is compute
- 7:35Josh: and intelligence so if tesla's able to create an
- 7:38Josh: infinite amount or if they're able to scale this vertically and create
- 7:41Josh: more than they're able to buy from nvidia they'll probably just
- 7:44Josh: keep them for themselves so maybe nvidia loses the purchase order from
- 7:47Josh: tesla but i don't see any reason for tesla to actually sell them to anybody
- 7:50Josh: else because it's such a benefit to have that much compute power under one roof
- 7:54Josh: and for it to be maximally efficient so not only are they going to have a ton
- 7:57Josh: more chips but the chips are going to be a lot more energy efficient power if
- 8:00Josh: like all of the the things will just be much much better so
- 8:04Ejaaz: So i see your point of view i think why i
- 8:07Ejaaz: would argue against that is elon seems to
- 8:10Ejaaz: exhibit a behavior where if something isn't built to his kind of perfect specification
- 8:17Ejaaz: he gets super annoyed and just builds it in-house right if he can't like outsource
- 8:21Ejaaz: that in any way we saw that last week when we covered uh starlink's acquisition
- 8:25Ejaaz: of a company which basically gives them access to crazy spectrum broadband,
- 8:29Ejaaz: which will now allow all his satellites,
- 8:32Ejaaz: which he's eventually gonna be releasing in space,
- 8:35Ejaaz: to beam down lasers to our cell phones and get access to premium 5G and internet
- 8:40Ejaaz: access wherever the hell you are, right?
- 8:42Ejaaz: If you haven't seen that episode, definitely go and check that out.
- 8:45Ejaaz: So I have a feeling that he might get annoyed enough to just go whole hog and
- 8:49Ejaaz: go for Nvidia's throat, but I agree, like, if there's no necessary business
- 8:52Ejaaz: means, he probably won't.
- 8:54Josh: Yeah. If I'm Tesla and I have infinite compute power that I can generate myself
- 8:58Josh: by making it, I'm taking all of it.
- 9:00Josh: I want all the chips. I'm not giving that to anybody else. That's my new competitive advantage.
- 9:03Josh: And similar to Apple, like now you see it in all of their mobile,
- 9:07Josh: like the new iPhone, a single threaded processor from the new iPhone is equivalent
- 9:11Josh: to the M4 Max in a phone, which is just unbelievable, like efficiency and compute
- 9:16Josh: power in such a small device.
- 9:17Josh: So for Tesla to give that up seems unlikely, but oh my God, what a huge unlock
- 9:22Josh: it's going to be when they actually make it. And this isn't even the only Tesla news this week.
- 9:25Josh: I mean, you teased the Megablock, right? The new energy thing that they have going on.
- 9:29Josh: Do you want to just kind of explain what's going on with this new technology?
- 9:32Josh: Because this, to me, this is even more exciting than the chips. This is pretty cool.
- 9:35Ejaaz: Well, Josh, I kind of want you to explain it for me. I mean,
- 9:38Ejaaz: look at these images that are like staring at me in the face, right? Okay.
- 9:41Ejaaz: Okay. So let me give you my left curve take, right?
- 9:46Ejaaz: Cool. These look like some 1970s transformer type uh gizmos here it looks like
- 9:54Ejaaz: an old school data center it looks boring as hell josh what am i what am i staring
- 9:58Ejaaz: at what's a megawatt per hour and why is it important.
- 10:02Josh: Yeah okay so we can maybe define a few things that
- 10:04Josh: are going to be important for this segment which is a kilowatt which is shown
- 10:07Josh: kw and that's the rate it's kind of like you can think
- 10:10Josh: of each as like miles per hour but for power and then
- 10:13Josh: we have kilowatt hours which are kwh and that's
- 10:16Josh: the amount of energy which is kind of like gallons of fuel for a
- 10:19Josh: car and then we have megawatts and megawatt hours which
- 10:21Josh: are just a thousand times multiple on those so kilowatts megawatts kilowatt
- 10:25Josh: hours megawatt hours and the easy anchors are kind of like
- 10:28Josh: a phone battery has 10 watt hours which is 0.01 kilowatt
- 10:32Josh: hours a battery on an electric car like a tesla
- 10:34Josh: has 75 kilowatt hours and so on and so forth so the average
- 10:38Josh: home uses about 855 of these kilowatt hours
- 10:41Josh: per month that's about 28 and a half kilowatt hours per day about
- 10:44Josh: 1.2 kilowatts of continuous draw so that's
- 10:47Josh: kind of how we can frame all of this um megablock did
- 10:50Josh: a really cool thing where they modularized these battery
- 10:53Josh: packs so within a megablock is a megapack a megapack has a bunch of energy stored
- 10:59Josh: inside and it is able to be deployed at scale to subsidize the grid so what
- 11:05Josh: the megablock is is really just you just you could think of like a small nuclear
- 11:08Josh: reactor almost except it doesn't actually generate its own energy it It just
- 11:11Josh: distributes the energy.
- 11:13Josh: And a lot of the problem with the grid that we have today is that
- 11:16Josh: We're generating a lot of energy. We're just not using a lot of it.
- 11:19Josh: And there's actually a chart that I want to show in one of these videos,
- 11:23Josh: if you don't mind pulling it up, which shows the amount of energy that we use
- 11:26Josh: relative to the amount that we produce.
- 11:28Josh: So you could see, EJS, in this chart, the amount of energy that we're actually
- 11:32Josh: using relative to the amount that we have, it's like 30 to 50%.
- 11:35Josh: We're using such a low amount of energy.
- 11:38Josh: And that's just because we don't have good efficiency in the grid.
- 11:41Josh: The way it works, and what the person in this presentation is describing right
- 11:44Josh: now, is you could see how it shifts up a little bit.
- 11:47Josh: The grid has to accommodate for the highest point of energy consumption,
- 11:51Josh: no matter where you are in the world.
- 11:52Josh: So if there's a huge blip in energy demand, they need to meet that energy demand.
- 11:56Josh: So there's no blackouts, which means they have to pour a lot of resources into one place.
- 12:00Josh: And it's not necessarily the most efficient place. It's just the place that
- 12:02Josh: has a lot of demand draw at one specific time.
- 12:05Josh: What these mega packs do and what these mega blocks do is they subsidize that demand.
- 12:09Josh: So I'm getting all my mega blocks and mega packs confused but
- 12:12Josh: basically what it is is you can drop one
- 12:15Josh: of these things into an area and it could subsidize the grid
- 12:17Josh: in a way that will smooth out that bumpy line that
- 12:20Josh: we just saw so one of the big things and the big problems that we
- 12:23Josh: have with current ai data training centers for example is
- 12:26Josh: getting the amount of energy that is required to these places is
- 12:29Josh: nearly impossible it's so hard and it's not because the energy doesn't exist
- 12:33Josh: it's because we don't have an efficient way to get it to the place so these
- 12:36Josh: mega blocks exist as a way to store that energy and then release it onto the
- 12:41Josh: grid in a way that smooths out those curves and allows you to optimize for more
- 12:44Josh: energy consumption on a regular basis.
- 12:47Ejaaz: That's super cool. I was thinking of other ways that I can kind of like understand
- 12:53Ejaaz: the magnitude of power that's going to be kind of like fueled through one of these.
- 12:57Ejaaz: And you mentioned that these mega blocks are basically going to be composed
- 13:00Ejaaz: of these things called mega packs, right?
- 13:02Ejaaz: And then I was like, well, okay, how powerful are of these individual mega packs.
- 13:06Ejaaz: And I was looking it up and one mega pack alone is enough to power 170 average
- 13:13Ejaaz: American homes for about a day.
- 13:16Ejaaz: Which is insane, right? And then I was like, okay, well, what is that compared
- 13:20Ejaaz: to the amount of power that's in a single Tesla car, which, you know,
- 13:23Ejaaz: you own one of these, Josh? And it's 67 of them.
- 13:26Ejaaz: So I'm trying to think about like how this kind of like stacks upon each other
- 13:31Ejaaz: as like Elon like keeps kind of like rolling all these like energy trade-offs
- 13:36Ejaaz: into one super efficient thing.
- 13:38Ejaaz: And I kind of like envision a world where you can kind of create a city in the
- 13:42Ejaaz: middle of a desert or somewhere where it's very resource scarce and have a fully
- 13:45Ejaaz: functioning society of people out there that can just kind of like survive on
- 13:50Ejaaz: their own with these Megapacks.
- 13:51Ejaaz: It also gets me thinking about eventually when we end up with,
- 13:55Ejaaz: you know, proficient space travel and we end up landing on different planets
- 13:59Ejaaz: and stuff, we could probably be able to power all of this from some of these
- 14:02Ejaaz: Megapacks, which is super, super cool in my opinion.
- 14:05Josh: Yeah, and it's not to discount the fact that we still need to power these Megablocks.
- 14:09Josh: So the Megablocks are just batteries. They don't actually generate any net new energy.
- 14:13Josh: But in the case that you can supply energy to these
- 14:16Josh: blocks well they will take care of all the rest and like you
- 14:18Josh: said ejes where there's a place where there's not a lot of infrastructure available
- 14:21Josh: or a lot of infrastructure gets wiped out you could just plug these into a electricity
- 14:25Josh: generating source and it will take care of the rest and it's a really cool compact
- 14:29Josh: thing i mean it's four megapacks they turn them into one block and then that
- 14:33Josh: one block provides about 20 megawatt hours per block
- 14:36Josh: It's a huge amount. And the speed at which they're able to actually deploy these,
- 14:40Josh: I think, is one of the most interesting things.
- 14:41Josh: Where in the presentation, they said they can get one of these deployed in 20 days.
- 14:45Josh: And that means with enough of them, you can get up to a gigawatt of energy in 20 days.
- 14:50Josh: And if you'll remember from our past episodes, a few of the data centers like
- 14:53Josh: OpenAI's Giants data center or XAI's Colossus data center, they're actually
- 14:57Josh: targeting for one gigawatt or two gigawatt of energy,
- 15:01Josh: which is a huge amount that cannot be deployed very, very quickly with these megablocks.
- 15:05Josh: So it's a really powerful way of not only subsidizing the grid,
- 15:09Josh: but unlocking energy that we previously would not have access to.
- 15:12Josh: I think a lot of the times we say, and I've been guilty of this,
- 15:15Josh: like we don't have enough energy.
- 15:17Josh: And the reality is we don't, but we could have a lot more if we just distribute
- 15:21Josh: it properly because we are losing half of it, almost half of it to just inefficiencies
- 15:25Josh: in the grid. And this will hopefully smooth that out over time.
- 15:28Ejaaz: Being a show where we discuss AI a lot, particularly AI models,
- 15:32Ejaaz: and we've mentioned how much energy and compute it requires to pre-train some of these models, right?
- 15:40Ejaaz: I'm wondering whether there are more efficient ways that we can train models
- 15:43Ejaaz: using these mega blocks or these mega packs, whichever one you want to consider.
- 15:48Ejaaz: I saw someone kind of like have a good take on X the other day where he basically said,
- 15:54Ejaaz: at nighttime, typically, it's harder to train some of these or pre-train some
- 15:58Ejaaz: of these AI models because it's not as efficient at nighttime for many different
- 16:02Ejaaz: reasons. for example, it might be cooler.
- 16:04Ejaaz: And if you could supply some of these mega packs or these mega blocks and have
- 16:08Ejaaz: that continually train certain models, I think we'll start to see some of these
- 16:13Ejaaz: things in Colossus 2 was the point I was going to make.
- 16:15Ejaaz: And I'm curious whether there is any kind of like overlap with
- 16:19Ejaaz: elon's new data center that he's building out where is it now is it in texas.
- 16:24Josh: I believe it's tennessee tennessee
- 16:26Ejaaz: Okay cool yeah i'm curious whether he might start implementing a bunch of these
- 16:30Ejaaz: different components that he's building with tesla into some of his ai driven efforts.
- 16:34Josh: Yeah i'm sure they will be because if you remember i think
- 16:37Josh: i forget what percentage of it was but almost all the electricity that
- 16:40Josh: went into the cloxus one structure in the first factory
- 16:44Josh: was from mega packs and a
- 16:46Josh: mega block is just a juiced up steroid version
- 16:49Josh: of that um and that's mostly because i mean in
- 16:52Josh: their case the the issue was that grid power isn't always completely
- 16:55Josh: smooth and when you're powering up and down a hundred thousand gpus at once
- 16:59Josh: the energy swings are very large very quick and they needed a way to smooth
- 17:03Josh: that out so the mega pack solved that now with a mega block it's just like that
- 17:07Josh: on steroids it is a tremendous amount of energy that you can smooth out into
- 17:10Josh: these data centers that doesn't mess up a single training rod and there's this crazy sat,
- 17:15Josh: I mean, I mentioned they can be rolled out in 20 days, but 200 of these sites
- 17:19Josh: would enable a 20% increase in total U.S.
- 17:22Josh: Electricity generation without building a single new thermal generator.
- 17:26Josh: It's just by better utilizing what we already have.
- 17:28Josh: So if these things start to get deployed at scale, it can seriously make a huge
- 17:32Josh: impact in the amount of energy that we have and the cost per kilowatt more efficient,
- 17:35Josh: more importantly, that we always talk about,
- 17:37Josh: without actually needing to spin up more solar farms
- 17:41Josh: or gas turbines or whatever type of energy source we
- 17:44Josh: need because we have it it's just a matter of just deploying
- 17:47Josh: it more efficiently and that's exactly what mega pack does and that's why
- 17:50Josh: it's really it's so important because if this gets rolled out
- 17:52Josh: at scale we could see the cost per kilowatt drop very very
- 17:56Josh: much and also they can be rolled as data centers very
- 17:59Josh: very quickly so in the case that someone needs a lot of power well they don't
- 18:02Josh: have to go through hell and back to get some energy there they could just roll
- 18:05Josh: one of these bad boys out and and juice it all up okay so you just we kind of
- 18:09Josh: talked about why this is so important but i understand that they did some pretty
- 18:12Josh: amazing things in order to achieve this that you can hopefully walk us through well
- 18:17Ejaaz: Okay listen i'm a massive fan of pokemon and the main reason why i was is because
- 18:22Ejaaz: these pokemon cards have some of the coolest stats ever and it seems like we
- 18:27Ejaaz: have it for the mega pack 3 so introducing the pokemon card version of the Megapack 3,
- 18:32Ejaaz: 5 megawatts per hour of usable AC energy.
- 18:36Ejaaz: Its weight is a casual 86,000 pounds.
- 18:40Ejaaz: This I found super interesting. It operates between minus 40 degrees Celsius to 60 degrees Celsius.
- 18:47Ejaaz: So basically, it's impervious to any temperature fluctuation.
- 18:50Ejaaz: You can have it pretty much manufactured anyway. That's a humongous range.
- 18:55Ejaaz: And 75% of the mass of a Megapack 3 is battery Now,
- 19:00Ejaaz: having come hot off the Apple episode last week, Josh, where that stat basically
- 19:05Ejaaz: rings true for the new iPhone Air that's going to be delivered to my building
- 19:09Ejaaz: in about a couple of days time,
- 19:11Ejaaz: I kind of see a trend developing here, which is pretty cool.
- 19:14Ejaaz: A single module weighs as much as a Cybertruck.
- 19:18Ejaaz: These things are much larger than I thought. I kind of thought this might be
- 19:21Ejaaz: like a jet pack type thing that astronauts might wear, but maybe that's in V3.
- 19:28Ejaaz: And it will partly use battery cells from Tesla's new seven gigawatt an hour
- 19:33Ejaaz: LFP battery facility in Nevada coming late online in 2025.
- 19:38Ejaaz: That's cool because we've spoken about this new battery facility quite a bunch
- 19:42Ejaaz: of times on this show, but we've never really kind of like understood maybe
- 19:45Ejaaz: the strategy of where he's feeding a bunch of these cells.
- 19:48Ejaaz: This is probably one of the major outlets that will get there as well.
- 19:52Ejaaz: Super cool. And I kind of understand now why Elon is buying a billion dollars
- 19:57Ejaaz: worth of additional shares this morning that news broke. Pretty hilarious.
- 20:02Josh: Stock price is doing pretty good as well. I think people are excited.
- 20:06Josh: This is one of those cases where if any company in the world were to achieve
- 20:10Josh: any of these things, it would be massive news.
- 20:13Josh: And there's one company that's at the forefront doing all of these things.
- 20:16Josh: I mean, the AI5 chip is an incredible feat of engineering.
- 20:19Josh: It's not done yet. They're finishing the design process. But assuming they do
- 20:22Josh: deliver like they always do, maybe it'll probably be late.
- 20:25Josh: But assuming they do, it's going to be a remarkable piece of tech.
- 20:27Josh: And it's going to run a ton of the very first humanoid robots that we see walking around.
- 20:30Josh: And now they're also rolling out this energy plan to subsidize the grid that's
- 20:34Josh: been faltering and hasn't been upkept correctly.
- 20:38Josh: And it's amazing to see the progress of some of these innovations and not only
- 20:43Josh: how quickly they're rolling it out, but how effective they are.
- 20:45Josh: I mean every single one of these new product rollouts is the best
- 20:48Josh: in class and i don't see that changing anytime soon so
- 20:51Josh: i it's a good time to be bullish it's a good time to be bullish on tesla on
- 20:54Josh: the entire ecosystem around them on the xai team who also benefits from this
- 20:58Josh: i mean there's a lot of all you start to see all the vertical integration how
- 21:02Josh: it all feeds into each other and they all help each other in this this really
- 21:05Josh: nice ecosystem and it gets me fired up i
- 21:10Josh: These things, when they work at scale, will change the world,
- 21:12Josh: particularly the megablock. I mean, this is huge.
- 21:15Ejaaz: For a long time, I think the idea of electricity or rather like solar-powered
- 21:21Ejaaz: electricity powering everything kind of seemed like a gimmick.
- 21:24Ejaaz: And the major reason for that wasn't because solar wasn't powerful enough.
- 21:28Ejaaz: It's because the distribution of it sucked.
- 21:30Ejaaz: And now we have a vehicle that can clearly distribute this energy way more efficiently,
- 21:35Ejaaz: 50% of energy to be precise.
- 21:37Ejaaz: So I'm super excited about this. And hopefully, if you will listen to this,
- 21:42Ejaaz: this was educational for you and you learned something new about Elon Musk,
- 21:46Ejaaz: who seems to be releasing paradigm-shifting technologies every couple of weeks now, Josh.
- 21:52Ejaaz: I'm very bullish, Tesla. It is probably the stock that I own in the largest
- 21:57Ejaaz: quantity outside of some of my crypto stuff. Oh, nice. Okay.
- 22:00Ejaaz: Oh, yeah. Dude, how could I not be bullish? We talk about it about 50% of episodes. Oh, good.
- 22:05Josh: Well, you never know who's actually on board, right?
- 22:07Ejaaz: Like, I'm glad to hear this. No, I've got my skin, teeth, and bones in the game.
- 22:12Ejaaz: So I'm super pumped about this and I'm excited to see where it goes.
- 22:16Ejaaz: But again, if you think that there is a better topic that we could be discussing,
- 22:21Ejaaz: if there's something that Elon has released or is talking about that we've missed
- 22:25Ejaaz: and that you think we're not covering because our Tesla bags are consuming us
- 22:29Ejaaz: and there's a competitor that needs to be described,
- 22:32Ejaaz: we chat to us, our DMs are open, our comments are open.
- 22:35Ejaaz: We also like hearing feedback, particularly the feedback that
- 22:38Ejaaz: is spicy that disagrees with us that wants to hear different takes um josh and
- 22:43Ejaaz: i uh we like to fight but mainly we agree with a lot of the stuff that we discuss
- 22:47Ejaaz: we kind of discuss topics that we enjoy and if there's anything else that you
- 22:51Ejaaz: would like to hear about please reach out like subscribe share with your friends
- 22:55Ejaaz: and we will see you on the next one which.
- 22:58Josh: Will probably be meta connect big hardware episode coming this week so don't
- 23:01Josh: don't miss it it's gonna be a big one thank you guys for watching we'll see you guys in the next one
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