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The Late Debate | 14 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General, Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. I'm Kay Lebond with
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  Speaker 2: Free Leitch and Joe Hildebrand. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: A woman in the UK is being investigated by police
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  Speaker 2: because she said she was born and bred in her
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  Speaker 2: local community. Because of course, national pride is a crime
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  Speaker 2: unless you're celebrating some foreign nation. A safety warning from
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  Speaker 2: councils about Halloween it might kill wildlife? What are on about?
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  Speaker 2: That's on the front of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph. And it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't all serious at the Middle East peace summit last night.
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  Speaker 2: We'll show you some of the funnier moments a bit later,
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  Speaker 2: but first let's go down to Victoria. I know again
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  Speaker 2: another only in Victoria's story here to open the Late Debate,
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  Speaker 2: but this one's actually a bit of good news. Yesterday morning,
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  Speaker 2: Grant Brown woke up and this is not the good
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  Speaker 2: news bit that comes later, but he woke up in
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  Speaker 2: his house in Hawthorne to a couple of youths, two
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  Speaker 2: te age boys, who had broken into his home. And
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  Speaker 2: he's got four kids asleep in this house, so you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine how terrified he was. But he turned around
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  Speaker 2: and did something about him. I'm going to say this
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  Speaker 2: guy early nomination should be Victorian of the Year and
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  Speaker 2: then subsequently Australian of the Year because he didn't just
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  Speaker 2: call the cops. He didn't go, oh my god, what
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  Speaker 2: am I going to do? He chased the guys in
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  Speaker 2: his underpants at three point thirty in the morning out
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  Speaker 2: of his house. He followed them all the way down
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  Speaker 2: the street. One of the kids managed to get away,
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  Speaker 2: but he caught up to the other one and he
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  Speaker 2: was scaling the fence. He was trying to get into
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  Speaker 2: someone else's property to get away from him, and you
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  Speaker 2: can see there he gets hold of the chap, pulls
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  Speaker 2: him away and says, mate, you are coming with me,
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  Speaker 2: Andy's and all. And once he gets he says, look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to call the cops, but my phone is
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  Speaker 2: back at the house that you just broke into. So
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  Speaker 2: he made him a triple zero. Yes, he made the
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  Speaker 2: kid call the cops himself. You can just imagine how
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  Speaker 2: this kid must have felt after a guy and his
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  Speaker 2: underpants chased him down and made him call the cops
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  Speaker 2: on himself. And if you couldn't love the guy, Grant
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  Speaker 2: Brown enough after hearing all that. Here he was this
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  Speaker 2: morning on the Today Show.
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  Speaker 3: One of them was on bail and the other one
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  Speaker 3: was released yesterday two hours after he was arrested. He's
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  Speaker 3: carrying a knife entering our house and then coming back
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  Speaker 3: when he's arrested, saying he's going to come back and
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  Speaker 3: stab everyone, and then he gets let out in two hours.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a real worry, and it's a real worry.
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  Speaker 3: Hearing the premiere on TV yesterday saying how tough we
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  Speaker 3: are on youth crime and on bail laws. It's a
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  Speaker 3: load of rubbish.
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  Speaker 2: Bam, you know, he's in his undies. He gets hold
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  Speaker 2: of the kid. Next morning, goes on morning television and says, Premier,
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  Speaker 2: you've got a problem. This guy should be the premier.
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  Speaker 2: Just put him in charge of Victoria. How bad could
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  Speaker 2: it be?
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  Speaker 4: He would definitely do a better job than just sin
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  Speaker 4: to Alan. I mean, he is the definition of no nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: Fair dicom chase him out of the house in your undies,
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  Speaker 4: put him in a headlock, and then make the criminal
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  Speaker 4: call the cops.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't get better than that. I love it so much.
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  Speaker 4: But what he raises here is a very serious point
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  Speaker 4: Victoria is basically a failed state. Crime is up fourteen
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  Speaker 4: percent just in the last year. It's up massively when
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  Speaker 4: you look at data of the.
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  Speaker 5: Last five years.
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  Speaker 4: And it is a tragedy and break ins like this
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  Speaker 4: are happening every single day. It's just lucky he was
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  Speaker 4: a fit Man's his motivation for Victorian seat the gym,
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  Speaker 4: so you can.
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  Speaker 5: Defend your family.
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  Speaker 4: It's lucky he was fit and could chase them down
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  Speaker 4: the road. But what if it was an elderly family
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  Speaker 4: or a family with children, or what if he didn't
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  Speaker 4: respond so quickly? And we know that the Victorian police
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  Speaker 4: are basically only solving around half of all cases. A
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  Speaker 4: lot of times this will just happen and then no consequences.
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  Speaker 2: So bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the invasions are going through the roof. And
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  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I mean it was.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is an incredible yarn. This should be
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  Speaker 6: a Hollywood movie except for two factors. One is the
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  Speaker 6: guy lives in Hawthorne and therefore probably goes for the
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  Speaker 6: Hawthorne Football Club, which is something that as an essence supporter,
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  Speaker 6: I cannot forgive because if he was a superhero he
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  Speaker 6: would be called hawk Man.
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  Speaker 2: And well, actually they've been cooking him Captain underpants, which
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Think that's unkind I think, you know, like surely you
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  Speaker 6: know it's that whole thing. You know, I stop two criminals,
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  Speaker 6: I make a citizens arrest, and all you can remember,
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  Speaker 6: you know, but I wear one pair of underpants. But
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  Speaker 6: the thing that Hawthorne is not incredibly as anyone from
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  Speaker 6: Melbourne or as been in Melbourne. No incredibly affluent part
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  Speaker 6: of Melbourne is a part of Melbourne is usually completely
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  Speaker 6: and utterly crime free. It is inhabited solely by the
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  Speaker 6: great and the good, you know, authodontists and lawyers and
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  Speaker 6: whatnot and so and what pisces me off as someone
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  Speaker 6: who grew up and down in On where this sort
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  Speaker 6: of thing. I mean, what I'm saying is, if this
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  Speaker 6: sort of stuff is going on in Hawthorne and we've
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  Speaker 6: seen people run down with machetes in Chapel Street, which
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  Speaker 6: is also verly La de Da, like, imagine how bad
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  Speaker 6: it is in the actual subbers And we know, we
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  Speaker 6: know in broad Meadows, you know, assault of the earth
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  Speaker 6: working class community, and they're having open giant knife fights
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  Speaker 6: in shopping center car parks in the middle of broad
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  Speaker 6: daylight and so hopefully now that christis and again it
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  Speaker 6: just proves that there is absolutely nothing progressive, nothing left wing,
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  Speaker 6: nothing labor about allowing crime to get out of control
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  Speaker 6: because the victims are first going to be in the
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  Speaker 6: poorest communities and the most vulnerable communities, working class communities,
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  Speaker 6: labor electorates. I grew up in one. I know, I've
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  Speaker 6: seen it all myself. My mom's still there. And then
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  Speaker 6: something only gets done about it when it sort of
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  Speaker 6: jumps the tracks, when it gets so bad that it
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  Speaker 6: jumps the tracks to areas where they're not used to
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  Speaker 6: seeing any crime at all. And that's why it's now
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  Speaker 6: making all these headlines. So what the government has done,
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  Speaker 6: what the left wing, you know, the labor left government
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  Speaker 6: as opposed to the sensible labor right we have here
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  Speaker 6: in New South Wales.
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  Speaker 1: What the labor left government has done is actually.
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  Speaker 6: Sacrifice poor people, Sacrifice the people who voted for it
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  Speaker 6: in working class communities and working class electures, use them
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  Speaker 6: as basically as human shields for their little social experiment.
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  Speaker 6: And then we'll actually be forced to crack down on
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  Speaker 6: it and fix the mess they made once it starts
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  Speaker 6: hitting the rich people. So well done to the Andrews
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  Speaker 6: Allen government. What an amazing legacy of social justice you
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  Speaker 6: have created.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's good evidence now that the kids, particularly in Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: are specifically targeting wealthier neighborhoods because they lose his best.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: And remember, because they're so fearless. Now, Big Judd was
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  Speaker 2: complaining about a crime waving Brighton and everyone said, oh good,
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  Speaker 2: that bother goes yes your privilege life and blowing about
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  Speaker 2: the crowd, and then the numbers came out and she
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  Speaker 2: was dead right. There had been an increasing car theft
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  Speaker 2: and breakings and whatever in Brighton because they know that
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  Speaker 2: they can get better at it. And quite a s
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  Speaker 2: of mine live.
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  Speaker 6: The stealing happens in the rich suburbs, and the night
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  Speaker 6: flights happened in the poor suburb.
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  Speaker 2: Acquaint of Samann lives in Hawthorne. He's spending increasingly more
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  Speaker 2: time in Sydney now and his house got done over
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  Speaker 2: in Hawthorne and his wife was terrified after that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they had to put in big fences and lock gates
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  Speaker 2: with it because she was terrified to be in her
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  Speaker 2: own home.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we have lots of family in South Africa and
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  Speaker 4: driving around many of the suburbs of Hawthorne of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: It's starting to look like South Africa where you have
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  Speaker 4: to erect these huge fences, have a lot of security
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  Speaker 4: cameras just to survive.
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  Speaker 5: It's horrible.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know the only area this is just an
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  Speaker 6: amazing fact that I just came across. I was the
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  Speaker 6: only area of sales growth, of economic growth where Victoria's
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  Speaker 6: outperforming other states. And this is from the Sea of
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  Speaker 6: West Farmers. The only err it's outperforming is the style
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  Speaker 6: of home security products from Bunning.
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  Speaker 5: Smith's so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Somewhere where you wouldn't want to have security cameras because
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  Speaker 4: you would not want to be looking at this footage
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  Speaker 4: unless you have to, or unless the late debate shows
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  Speaker 4: it to you.
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  Speaker 5: Is Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 4: They held an emergency edition of the World Naked Bike
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  Speaker 4: Ride to protest ICE and there you go, just some
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  Speaker 4: glorious individuals. Thankfully we've blurred the worst of it for you,
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  Speaker 4: protesting outside an ice facility. I think they just look
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  Speaker 4: very mentally well, very well just balanced, very significant contributors
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  Speaker 4: to society. It's quite the site. There may have been
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  Speaker 4: children walking past. This was a public space, after all,
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  Speaker 4: what I don't understand, Caleb, is why they think this
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  Speaker 4: is going to win anyone to their course.
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  Speaker 5: Don't you just look at that and go, I want.
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  Speaker 4: To be the exact opposite of whatever this is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's the thing, because yes, truly, the
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  Speaker 2: point of protest is to bring some I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: they're getting publicity, so I supposed from their perspective that
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  Speaker 2: they're getting what they want. But like, if you were
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  Speaker 2: walking past and you saw a bunch of lunatics with
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  Speaker 2: their tops off and their cocks out, and what are
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  Speaker 2: we going to pass on a bike? You go get
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  Speaker 2: ice to come down from the building into these people,
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  Speaker 2: would you like? It is the worst advertisement for your
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  Speaker 2: cause that you could possibly find.
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  Speaker 5: And they're all but ugly.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so much if there were some hobbies in there.
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  Speaker 6: The law the law of nudism, Caleb, and perhaps you
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  Speaker 6: were too young to know the law of nudism since
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  Speaker 6: time immemorial.
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  Speaker 1: Has always been people, at least those who look the
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  Speaker 1: worst with their.
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  Speaker 6: Clothes off are always the most keen to take them off.
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  Speaker 1: And it is a law as old as the hills.
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  Speaker 2: Did you did you ever watch the Louis through Doc
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  Speaker 2: the Weird weekends ones where he goes and spins done
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  Speaker 2: with the nudist But.
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing.
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  Speaker 6: So so when you go to a nudist camp, so
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  Speaker 6: I'm told, possibly by that Luyd Road Doca, they're very
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  Speaker 6: very particular about putting a little napkin on all of
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  Speaker 6: the chairs before you sit down for obvious reasons if
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  Speaker 6: you think about it, right, because you're not wearing any undergarments.
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  Speaker 1: What about the poor bicycle seats?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I know, I mean just think from a hygienic
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  Speaker 6: perspective alone, Well, what is going.
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  Speaker 2: On with riding Riding a bike is uncomfortable enough as
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  Speaker 2: it is. I don't know what it's like for a woman,
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  Speaker 2: but as a man, particularly if it's a road bike
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  Speaker 2: with those you know, slim road bike saddles, it's uncomfortable
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  Speaker 2: enough as it is. That's why if you've got the
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  Speaker 2: riding shorts to protect you, well, I can't imagine what
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  Speaker 2: it would be like with your kid off.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine the chafing and the rubbing and the blisters. I
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  Speaker 4: just don't want to imagine it. It also is worse
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  Speaker 4: because apparently it was around fifteen degrees at the time
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  Speaker 4: of the protest.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's cold and it was.
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  Speaker 4: Raining, and then you've got the windshill factor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, at least you would have been safe from a
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  Speaker 2: few peggers given the temperature.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine I imagine all the all the old boomer lefty
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  Speaker 6: blokes afterwards having to explain to their wives what shrinkage is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness speaking. Look, if someone said, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry we showed it to you, but we had to
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  Speaker 2: do it to make the point. But if someone said, look,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to ban that sort of content from social media,
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  Speaker 2: I may well be on board with it. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: the only circumstance which I can say I get on
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  Speaker 2: board with the social media ban. But of course we've
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  Speaker 2: got one coming in here in Australia for people under
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  Speaker 2: the age of sixteen. This all kicks in in December,
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  Speaker 2: and so the federal government if you didn't already know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you couldn't know that
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  Speaker 2: this thing is coming in. And it doesn't really matter
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  Speaker 2: anyone because the social media companies are going to have
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  Speaker 2: to enforce it by law. So I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: tenth of December it comes in. You know, if you
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  Speaker 2: go to log into the Facebook, as some people will
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  Speaker 2: say all the Twitter or whatever you use, and they'll
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  Speaker 2: ask you, you know, are you over the age of sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: You'll have to verify it, right, so you'll know. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: will know when it comes in that it exists. But
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  Speaker 2: never mind. The federal government obviously thinks the idea needs
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  Speaker 2: to be sold anyway, and they punted up fourteen million
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  Speaker 2: dollars of your tax payer dollars for this.
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  Speaker 7: For the good of Noah, for the good of their
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  Speaker 7: well being. From December ten, people under the age of
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  Speaker 7: sixteen will no longer have access to social media accounts.
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  Speaker 7: It's part of a new law to help keep under
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  Speaker 7: sixteen safer online.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look at that, seeing that the first shot they
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  Speaker 2: had the phones and they look morose and they were
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  Speaker 2: lost in the online world. And then big Daddy government
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  Speaker 2: came along and said phone for you, and then they
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  Speaker 2: were happy again, walking down the street with their basketballs.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't believe their luck. I mean, look, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why they need to advertise it, unless, of course,
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  Speaker 2: they think they're going to have trouble selling it to
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  Speaker 2: some people, which they probably will. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, the e Safety Commissioner, the nick Nanny,
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  Speaker 2: the e. Karen has been writing off to publishers of
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  Speaker 2: online games now telling them that they might end up
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  Speaker 2: being included in this as well, because the legislation is
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  Speaker 2: so open ended that you could, you know, a minister
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  Speaker 2: could buy a stroke of a pin at some point
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  Speaker 2: say well, online games are included as well. There is
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  Speaker 2: no end to this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a hard one because I must say initially
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  Speaker 4: I was a big fan of the social media ban.
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  Speaker 4: You just look at the data, and social media is
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  Speaker 4: objectively terrible for kids' mental health. Around twenty twelve, when
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  Speaker 4: Facebook and smartphones started to become widespread, was a massive
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  Speaker 4: and unprecedented spike in mental health issues among young people. Now,
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  Speaker 4: we cannot downplay that and we cannot not address that.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought, okay, if you have a social media ban,
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  Speaker 4: get kids off social media and then let the rest go.
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  Speaker 4: Don't regulate the rest of the online world. That's how
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  Speaker 4: you would have the best of both worlds. Kids don't
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  Speaker 4: get exposed to stuff, but you also don't risk censorship.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is that is not the approach labor has taken.
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  Speaker 4: They've gone, let's ban kids and let's control everyone else
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  Speaker 4: as well. And this was ANAKA wells the Communications Minister
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  Speaker 4: saying these laws are about keeping kids and everyone safe.
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  Speaker 8: Apparently this is definitely not set and forget laws. Obviously,
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  Speaker 8: this is a fast evolving space and we will keep
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  Speaker 8: attuned to minimizing online harms, not just for young Australians
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  Speaker 8: but for all Australians.
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  Speaker 9: And that's why I.
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  Speaker 8: Said the next big piece of work in the online
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  Speaker 8: safety space is working on digital Duty of Care and
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  Speaker 8: consultation for that that opens soon. And this is why
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  Speaker 8: I just do not think I can support this anymore,
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  Speaker 8: because clearly it's now being used as a way to
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  Speaker 8: roll out ever expanding online censorship laws through misinformation through
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  Speaker 8: the Safety Commissioner, and we will very soon end up
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  Speaker 8: like the UK where you have.
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  Speaker 4: Police knocking at your door for Facebook posts. And I
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  Speaker 4: do not want that for Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is obviously bonkers and terrifying. I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I think the PM learned pretty quickly when
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  Speaker 6: they tried to bring in the misinformation laws and immediately
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  Speaker 6: just open this massive Pandora's box.
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  Speaker 1: And I can tell you he was very very happy
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  Speaker 1: just to let that.
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  Speaker 6: One die on the vine. And I don't think they'll
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  Speaker 6: be revisiting it in any remotely kind of serious way.
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  Speaker 1: The social media band that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm with you, though, for kids there are a whole
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  Speaker 6: free independent Adults should be able to do pretty much
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  Speaker 6: whatever they want as long as they're not hurting anybody.
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  Speaker 6: But for kids, they don't have that privilege.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have that right.
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  Speaker 6: And again we've seen, I mean the number of times
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  Speaker 6: I've written editorials for the paper about another young girl
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  Speaker 6: or boy who has killed themselves because they were bullied
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  Speaker 6: to death online and there was nothing anyone could do
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  Speaker 6: about it because no one could see it but them,
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  Speaker 6: and it was taking place behind closed doors in their bedroom.
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  Speaker 6: You know, at least in the school yard there's a
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  Speaker 6: chance that, you know, a teacher might see it and
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  Speaker 6: know what's going on. And so I'm all for this.
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  Speaker 6: I think it is fantastic. I think that the talk
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  Speaker 6: about banning extending the band to video games, I do
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  Speaker 6: not think that's if you want to see people rise
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  Speaker 6: up and go crazy, because talking to the other kids
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  Speaker 6: is how everyone plays video games these days. You you
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: get into the chat room and you put your headphones on.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Obviously I have no idea how this works, and you
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: play your fortnights or your roadblocks or your ninety nine
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  Speaker 6: nights in the forest or whatever is one now and
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: there's yeah, and there's a casino battle, roy class Royale,
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: thank you very much.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: They can do it in front of you and then
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: talking to hear what's happening.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: You're right, and it's become a form of socialization people.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: And also if you start banning video games, I mean,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: what else are you going to ban?
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Right it?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, so many websites open kids up to danger.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: That's just the reality of living in the world.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because Pat mcgory, former Australia of the Year's Psychiatrists,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: obviously raised a really interesting point recently, which is that,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: and sort of in line with what my theory has
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: always been about social media, that the people who carry
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: on on social media have always existed. It's just that
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: previously there have been safeguards that stop them from being
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: able to say and do what they do online. You know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: if you write a letter to the editor, it wouldn't
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: get published and you've put it on social media. But
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: he said during the consultation for this, they didn't come
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and ask people like him what they thought. And he's
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: really worried that we've pinned everything on social media, and
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: social media getting rid of it is going to be
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the savior for kids, and he's worried it ain't going
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to be like that at all. And when we get
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to the other side of this and we've done the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: social media ban and nothing changes, what's that happened?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, huge, huge question.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Well, we mentioned the UK a little earlier, but you
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: will not believe this. A reform counselor has been referred
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: to the police after saying in an interview that she
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: was born and bred in the UK and she catches
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: herself mid interview. But check out this extraordinary exchange.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: And it's scary.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: It's scary as our local resident, somebody who's born in
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: bed here, I shouldn't.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Have said that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: Well do you see why this as people sometimes think
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: that reformer very much against having people just cant just
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: that's that's unfortunate for you, I guess. But ultimately, do
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: you see why people who aren't from here, who have
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: maybe made their home here illinoid when they hear an
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: elected officials say that people are born and bred here.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: That's just extraordinary a mere interviews. I mean that shows
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: you the level of censorship that's going on.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: In what she knows the computer chip in her head's
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: about to explo she knows, Oh.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: My gosh, that's going to be another police complaint against
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: me because I said I was born and bred in
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: this area. And then the journalist goes, that's unfortunate for you.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: What I mean, what has happened to freedom of speech?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But also like the I mean, it's just insane. She
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: was being interviewed about anti migration protests and the general issue,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and she goes, oh, you know, it's scary to see
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: what's going on as someone who's born and bred here.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But what she means, you know, I've lived in this community,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: which is for Kirk, my whole life, and I've seen
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: it change, and I understand why people are worried. I
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: didn't know that that was a crime these days. But
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: then for the coppers to receive the complaint and not
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: just chuck it out and say, please, don't waste our
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: time with this sort of crap, to actually say they
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: told that when they were asked by the papers about
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the complaint. Because the complaint for fourteen pages, twenty four
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: badges whatever it. Someone posted it online and so the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: papers asked the police, you know, what are you doing
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: about it? And they say, we are conducting our investigations.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: What is there to investigate. It's a woman saying she
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: was born in the community she lives in.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was born and bred and dan and Ung,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: which is probably the most multicultural.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Community on earth. I've got no problem with migrants.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: Whatsoever until they come up with you, because that's right.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: But the idea that this is what is really creepy.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Obviously disagree with reform and by they say, and I'm
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: very pro pro migrant promagration, pro multiculturalism. But the idea
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: that to not be that would be against the law.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: The idea that you.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't even be able to say it, let alone just say, well,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: this is my policy. You know, let's go to an election,
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: vote me out if you don't want me, Like that's
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: how it should work. Surely, the idea that she knows,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: not only that, but she knows she's not even defiant.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: She suddenly knows that again, it's almost like that split
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: second before you realize you've just tripped the bomb in
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: the back of your head and you know it's going
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: to go off. And that's what the exchange that follows
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: is about that. Oh you're dead now, aren't you.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But she wasn't even talking about anything controversial, Like
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I get it if she was out there railing against
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: a particular pace.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I've lived here all my life and then there's new comers.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: No, she's just saying.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I was born and bred here. It's truly shocking, but
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: the madness continues. A Labor local member over in the UK,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Jievan sand Her, posted this video explaining why he was
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: asking the council to take down the Saint George flag.
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: I'm proud of White country too, and I'm proud of
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: our flag, but I do understand why others feel that
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: it's about excluding people, unity, decency, determination, having a pike,
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: a cup of tea supporting the English football team and
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: sometimes they win. That's what Big British is about. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 10: that's why today I'll be asking the Reform County Council
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: to take down the flags of the lab posts.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I think is the definition of a Soy boy.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: If having a national flag up is that offensive to you?
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Why are you in the country? Like just move? No
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: one is forcing you to live in the UK if
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: you don't like.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: The flag maybe this isn't the right country for you,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: and he says, oh, it's exclusionary. Well, national identity, by
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: its nature is exclusionary to an extent.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Not everybody can be British.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Exclusionary to the Scots for one thing.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I can't sit here and identify as British and
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: just assume to be included.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: When I step over there. You have to have some limits.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And if a national flag is that offensive to you,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: the question is why that's on you?
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: That's not the flag?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Well can you imagine And we move into let's say
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Japan or somewhere, and I get over there and they're
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: putting up the Japanese flag, and I say, you've got
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: to take the Japanese flag down because it makes me
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: feel excluded as an Australian. What they tell me to do,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they tell me to off back to Australia. They take
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: down flag.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Far too politely that they just quietly make it happen.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Well, well, yeah, that's that's true. And you know, Japan
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: famously the most racist places in the world. But you know, honestly,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: like you couldn't get away with it anywhere else if
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you went anywhere else in the world, and said, particularly
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: if you're a Westerner and said you can't have your
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: national flag flying because it makes me feel uncomfortable. They
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: tell you to get stuffed, and rightly so I just
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I can't understand you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Forget deeply problematic colonial heritage.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Calaber Japan doesn't.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Have that exactly. But the other thing that really annoys
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: me is that he boils down And this shows how
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: much the guy has actual regard for the culture of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the UK, is that he boils it all down to
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: having a pint and a cup of tea and supporting
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the football team.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: So in cor alcoholism, football organism, you know, caffeine addiction,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: this guy's a monster.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: But if that's if your understanding of British culture is
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that surface level that it's all about having a beer
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: and that makes you a British person, it's just ridiculous.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: By the way, lots of people in Britain don't drink
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: beer because they're Muslim. I mean, for goodness, ahow, I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: just can't believe it. Speaking of which, there was a
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: mosque in East London just over the weekend had a
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: fun run. They were raising money for charity. But an
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: interesting little side note to this little fun run is
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that women were not allowed to participate in. They posted
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: online saying that it was family friendly and it had
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: an inclusive to risk atmosphere and that everyone was able
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: to participate except it says this is open to men,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: boys of all ages, and girls under twelve, but everyone
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: is welcome at the park to cheer on the runners.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So if you're a teenage girl or a woman, you're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: not allowed to run. I don't know how you get
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: away with this. I mean, can you imagine if I'd
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: set up a fun run and said no, no women allowed,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: because I believe that we sh and allow women to run.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But of course you put the religious cloak over it,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and somehow it gives you extra right or makes you
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: feel like you perhaps have extra right to do something
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: about it. There are complaints apparently being made to authorities
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that this could be a breach of equal opportunity laws.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So we'll see whether that plays out and how it
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: plays out. But on the face of it, I can't
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: see how it wouldn't be and I can't see how
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: anyone else would get away with it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Well, what if it was a church or a synagogue
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: that said this is a fun run for everyone except
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: for women over the age of twelve, you have to
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: sit on the sideline and cheer on all the men
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: and kids as they run.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Do you think that would fly? Not at all.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: And the other thing, I mean, we do defend single
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: sex spaces. I think it's perfectly legitimate to have a
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: men's run or a women's run. I think what's weird
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: about this is that girls are allowed as long as
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: they're under the age of twelve. I mean, that's just
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: strange what happens at twelve.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: That makes song.
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: We've been Muslim tradition that you that's like, the twelve
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: is the age we'd also were a nicarbo or a hijaba,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: So that's part of their tradition and religion for forever.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I believe in religious freedom.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: And so if these guys want to do it, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: presumably all the women in the community who are part
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: of the Muslim community know that there is there are
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: different rules for men and women. They're very obvious, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: if they're okay to stay within that community, I have
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: no problem with it whatsoever. What is curious is just
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: the deafening silence from feminists, the progressive left, and again
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: it reminds you of that, you know, that cosmic sort
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: of cognitive disconnect that they have over Gaza, where you
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: have the sort of what I call the sort of
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: quiz for Palestine paradox, where they support the side which
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: would actually be the most hostile and dangerous towards them
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: because they feel like the virtue signaling is more important
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: than what actually happens in reality.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Exactly right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Gaza, obviously, the remaining alive hostages were
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: successfully transferred over to Israeli SNA, and there has been
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: celebration and jubilation, amazing scenes of hostages after seven hundred
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: and thirty eight days being reunited with their families, just
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: truly truly incredible stuff.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: But the commentary from some elements of the.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Left wing media has been rather perplexing. Take this example
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: from CNN, where a commentator said, actually, the hostages were
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: treated better than garzens.
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: It's been a terrible, terrible two years for them because
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: not only are they there, you know, they're probably been
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: treated better than the average garden because they are the
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: pawns and the chips that Hamas had.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Now Hamas has given.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Up all its leverage, by the way.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: That is an incredibly offensive but also just factually wrong statement.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: We covered the story of Gretit Sloomberg posting a photo
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: of an emaciated man in Gaza.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Guess what it was one of the.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Israeli hostages that was forced to dink his own grave.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: A number of them have lost forty percent of their
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: body weight. The only example of adult starvation you can
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: find in Gaza are the Israeli hostages. So to say that,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't understand it. And also we've now
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: seen Gaza liberated. It's a very different scene than when
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: concentration camps were liberated after World War Two, very very different,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: no evidence of mass starvation.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Just a quick question.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: If the Israeli hostages traded so much better than ordinary Gazans,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: why are so many dead? Why of the last forty
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: eight we're on twenty returned alive. Why were all of
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: those twenty men? What happened to the young women? What
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: happened to the children?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Taken?
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: That?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: What an absolutely.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: Crazy, ridiculously stupid, moronic thing to say. Just this is
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: where and you wonder why, I mean you wonder why
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: the left is in such trouble in the US, in
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: the UK and you've got absolute numpies like this talking
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: about it is beyond strung.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And you know you have to think as well, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: almost an admission of just how badly Hamas has treated
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: people in Gaza. Like you know, if they're happy to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: let the hostages, who apparently have been treated better than Garzens,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to let them die or be killed, then the implication
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: is that they've been quite happy, in fact more readily
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: happy to do it with Gardzens.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: So the more access you have to harm us, the
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: more you've taken care of.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: That's what you're admitting it, Thank you very much. And then,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of course you would have seen because he took over
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: our entire show last night. But Trump was talking at
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the Canis. He spoke for more than an hour, bebing
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yahoo spoke, of course, an extraordinary wide ranging speech that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it was. I'll come back to that in a moment.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And then he got on a plane flew over to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Egypt hours later than he was meant to because he
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: got a bit carried away at the Kannesse and fair enough,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: he was treated like god there. But he flies over
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to this peace summit in Egypt, where he's got basically
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: every Middle Eastern country except a Rhan together and a
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: bunch of other Western nations as well as Spain was there,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the UK was there, The UK Prime Minister, Sir Kiir
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Istama was there, basking in the glory of what had
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: just transpired. And no wonder he got what he'd asked for.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I call again from immediate Cisfire and Gaza, the return
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: of the sassages, the hostage.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the sausages back. Look, mate, just stand back.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think you had too much to do with this.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But what an extraordinary evening it was last night to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: watch that speech at the Knisset and then Trump going
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: off and signing this peace steel for the Middle East.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: You know, we'll see how long it lasts or if
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it lasts, But I mean an extraordinary thing to be
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: able to get that many Middle Eastern leaders in a
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: room to sign a piece of paper with Donald Trump
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to say we are committed to peace going forward. I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: don't think anyone else would be able to pull it off.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was the exciting part.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And this was the breakthrough that happened in the last
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Trump administration, was the signing of the Abraham, or as
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Trump would say, the Avraham that he loves the Ads.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: But that's the key. Sounds native, sound nazy. If Trump
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: can get the other Arab states and Middle Eastern countries
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: united behind his plan for Gaza normalizing relations with Israel.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I think it's looking up from him.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And people forget because the last two years
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: egent so just ugly and catastrophic and deadly and dangerous.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: That the reason her mass attacked Israel on October seventh,
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, was because there was about to be
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: an agreement between all the other Arab states, all the
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: Sunni Arab states, and Israel that was going to take
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: the Abraham Accords to the next step and to strength
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: and tie. So they'd already been massive breakthroughs acknowledge of
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: Israeli citizenship. Israelis could visit some of these Arab states
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: for the first time, fly over their airspace, and this
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: was going to be extended, this relationship, and Hamas knew
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: that it couldn't let that happen. The worst thing that
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: could possibly happen for it was of course peace and
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: everybody getting along because their terrorist psychopaths, and so they
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: attacked Israel, killed, you know, more than a thousand people, abducted,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: hundreds of hostages and sacrificed the lives of sixty seventy
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: thousand of their own people, and then at the end
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: of it admitted that maybe it was a mistake because
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: the end result is we have to destroy ourselves, which
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: is what the rest of the Arab world actually wants.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: That's why Iran was their only backos, because this is
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: a Sunny Sheite dispute as much as anything else. And
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: so that's why they're all lined up, and that is
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: why Trump has got absolutely all his ducks in a row,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: done what nobody else could.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And he's going to move on and meet with Zelenski
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: again as well. So you know, he's on a roll
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and he just wants to He wants to keep on
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the roll coming back home. You know, sometimes you see
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: someone you go, I like that cut of the jip,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think they're on to something. And I had that
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: moment today with Chris Anderson. Now he is he was
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the coach of the Kangaroos, the national rugby league team.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Last time we played in the Ashes in the UK
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: that was two thousand and three, and we're about to
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: go and do it again for the first time in
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: twenty two years. We're going going for a two of
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the kangaroos of the UK and we will play against
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: them over there. So he's the last coach who got
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: us a win that time in two thousy trearly thing.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: It's all the way back to the seventies actually that
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: every time we've come up against the UK, we've beaten them.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: And this is a guy that runs on the board.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: He won the two thousand World Cup for the Kangaroos.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: He won premierships for Cattery Bankstown and Melbourne Storm in
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the NRL competition, so he knows what he's talking about
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and he has revealed the formula for winning matches. Have
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: a listen. He says, if you're sitting around hotel rooms
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: for ages on end and you're not allowed to have
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: a beer, you're not going to get the best out
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: of the place. You have to get them out of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: their rooms and having a few beers is great. You
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: could go and play darts or dominoes with the locals
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: at the pub.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: What tonight.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: They love that over there and it's good fun and
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you get to meet the locals and then become a local.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: British values for you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: His old school is saying you know what they want
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to win. Let the blokes have a beer. I think
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: he's bang on.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, there's something kind of I mean, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: know we can't turn back the clock, but the idea
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: that all our athletes are now basically these kind of
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: highly trained robots who are drilled with an inch of
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: their lives, not really allowed to say anything or have
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: any fun at because usually when they do, they make
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: a catastrophic half of it. But you know, there isn't
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: that kind of you know, I go and have a game,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: win the Grand Final and then you know, have a
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: witty blue and a schooner two is afterwards.
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: No.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I think it's great. We need to bring back fun.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: But you'll remember a couple of weeks ago Mad Monday
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: in the NRL or the AFLF. They got absolutely slammed
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: for just having fun and posting themselves in costumes and
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: everyone read into it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: The left is so anti fun.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: I think that's part of the reason why no one's
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: allowed to drink anymore.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: I know, it's that's why all the youth are so sad,
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: because they can't.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Get drunk, I know, and there are studies showing that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: they go out less. And I need all adds up,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: but it's why people are lonely, et cetera. Anyway, after
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the break, we'll get into the papers. On the front
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: of the Daily Telegraphs. More councils warning that Halloween is
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: bad for wildlife. I mean, the only councils could come
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: into this South, couldn't they? They more coming up. Let's
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: get stuck in tomorrow's news tonight. Snack. Just let me
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: start again, can we? I'd say, play this thing again,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: but never mind, I'm going to try it again. Let's
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: get stuck into tomorrow's news tonight. That was a bit better.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll do a bit of Joe a bit yes,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And on the front page, picker Piper picked a peck
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of pickled peppers.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: That's how it's done. So so all right, you're only young,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: you get that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not a pheasant plucker.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not present plucker. That's right.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: Strangely, a song that's very rarely performed on live television.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: This is how you do a front page, Ladies and gentlemen,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: Daily Telegraph, Hollo win get it. And I don't know
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: if you can see it in your TV screens unless
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: you've got the ultra high REDS four K. But we've
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: done a little cobweb, sort of a spider's web over
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: the mast head and the splash head, just to you know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: just to sort of put a bit of the sort
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: of festival. It's almost a bit three D. It's a
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: bit avatar. Anyway you are the newspaper editor. Wouldn't understand anyway.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Our council over each in scare campaign on spooky decorations.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: You will not believe this exclusive by Tylia Dobson and
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: Caitlin Hudson O'Farrell. The latter a very good friend of mine.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Caleb you'll be pleased to know. And Tyler, well, she's
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: just a friend I haven't met. Councils are warning residents
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: off using Halloween decorations like fake spiders webs see we
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: do in a move that's been labeled a nanny state overreach,
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: the push by the Inner West and Willoughby. Come on, Darcy,
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: don't fall for it. The push by the Inner West
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: and Willoughby counsels is claimed to be based on environmental concerns,
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: yet native animal organizations so they cannot definitively link the
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: decorations to injuries to wildlife. So we've got no evidence
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: that it actually caused any harm, but we've better ban
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: it anyway, just to be on.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: The safe side.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: They're not the only councils that have done this, so
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: we've done stories but I think there was one in
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: South Australia. I think there was one in Queensland. There
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: there's been a few councils now of sid No, you
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: can't have it. My understanding with the innuis is they
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: haven't actually banned it, but they're warning people not to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: use it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: That's right because Darthy Burr and the Mayor of the
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: Inner West is a very sensible human being who would
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: never bow to the crazy whimsy of the ground.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Your ability to talk up members of the Labor Party.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Joe's quite thank you, But seriously, have they got nothing
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: better to do than to police people. I'm not a
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: great fan of Halloween, but like police have people having fun.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Really well, they have to keep all the council of
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: bureaucrats in employed and doing things, so no doubt. Hundreds
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: of hours of work went into building four case studies
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: to establish whether or not these spiderwebs that were up
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: for one week would kill native wild.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: We need to know what to do. You need to
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: launch an urgent study, an urgent resource project, research project
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: that that covers all the bureaucrats you have, all the
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: council offices. You have to hand get them all working
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: on a study as to whether children's laughter is disruptive
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: to native bird.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: That's a good one.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: In the Australian Tomorrow, the headline is Forage Lights the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: road to libs ruin. A farage light populist agenda and
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: the rejection of free market thinking would lead the Liberals
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: to destruction. Senior Opposition front bencher James Patterson has declared
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: in a repudiation of Conservative allies Andrew Hasty and Justina
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Namajima Price. In a landmark intervention by one of the
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: country one of the party's most respected conservatives, amid what
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: some Liberals have declared an existential crisis, Senator Patterson demanded
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: the Opposition Edge end the apology tour and put a
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: clear time limit on its soul searching, warning that the
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: party had a moral duty to prevent victoriaizing the country
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: got wrong.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Is he's not wrong?
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: The question, though that I always have when people raise
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: this point is everyone levels the accusation of populists, but
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: what does populace actually mean popular? And where are the
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: most popular conservative parties in the world? Reform in the
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: UK Trump's Maga Republicans. I mean, clearly there's a formula
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: there that's working. And I don't think populist policies have
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: to come at the expense of free market policies. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: think it's just about balancing competing interests of yes, we
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: want free markets, but also maybe it would be good
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: if we had a bit more manufacturing in the country.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I don't get how it's that controversial.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Well it's not controversial, but I suppose that the difference
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: is the electoral systems that you have to deal with,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and so by the nature of the UK has first
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: passed the post, but here you have run once and
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: it's compulsory. It does change the game a little bit,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: so you can't necessarily always be as a mainstream party,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: as hard as you would like to be, and those
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: parties like Paul In Hanson's One Nation for instance, and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: whatever will exist and hopefully you end up with their preferences.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Just sort of the nature of how politics works in
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: this country, I suppose. And he's saying, you know, the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: two options in front of the Libs that they need
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: to resist is becoming reform and that doesn't mean you
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: can't take elements of what reform does. And also just
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: becoming a version of the Teals as well. He said,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you can't do that because that won't work. But I'll
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: tell you what he bang on about is he's described
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: all this business where the Libs say, you know, everything's
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: on the table, and where he's discussing our policies. He's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: called it an ongoing mass public therapy session. And you
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: have blamed that and this is what I was saying
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. He has blamed that for why just into
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: nampajimper Price and Andrew Hasty started speaking out because there
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: is a vacuum, and when there is a vacuum, someone
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: eventually starts to fill it. So he's saying, get your
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: skates on, let's come up with some policy. Because if
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: you don't like what Andrew Hasty is saying, and you
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: think he shouldn't be on the front bench saying with Price,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: then let's give us some policy. You talk about bang on?
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I like James Patterson a lot. But I
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: also think Andrew Hasty is probably holding back the.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Tide of one nation surge.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: They've doubled in the polls since the election, and we
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: do not want to go the way of the Tories
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: here in Australia. Another headline in The Australian tomorrow is
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: UNI chief solution to Woke crisis. A candid Vice chancellor
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: has criticized woke self censorship at universities and demanded more
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: rigor and research, calling for a cultural correction to restore
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: the public's crumbling confidence in higher education. In a challenge
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: to cancel culture Deacon Universities, Ian Martin has said universities
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: must embrace open debate.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Our duty is to.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Make students ready for challenging ideas, not to make those
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: ideas safe for students. He writes in The Australian's Higher
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Education section. Isn't that just a breadth of fresh air?
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Well done, Ian Martin at Deacon University, we need to
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: see more of that.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: I think you will actually see more of that, and
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: it will actually be a revolutionary, ground up revolution by
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: the smaller, newer universities against the more established ones. So
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: if you look at the most woke universities. It's Melbourne
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: University where I went and was part of the problem,
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Sydney UNI and A and U so the three biggest
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: most elite universities in Australia and followed by places.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Like you know, a q U, t Utes and mon
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Ash or whatever.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: But if you look at Deacon and if you look
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: at a couple of other universities that can think of
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: but I won't name because I've been speaking to them privately,
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: but they are planning to sort of model themselves as
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: an alternative to this kind of elitist group thing, the
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: sort of you know you're getting this upper middle class
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: left kind of mentality.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Just put the go and charging education system. I reckon
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: on the phone of the Herald sum tomorrow. Cops blocked
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: from suing for injuries suffered in line of duty, police
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: betrayed exclusive from Shannonder a great friend.
• 44:07
  Speaker 12: Of mine, You'll be really good friend of police are
• 44:11
  Speaker 12: being blocked from suing for workplace injuries amid legal rulings
• 44:14
  Speaker 12: that they say not owed a duty of care by
• 44:17
  Speaker 12: the state and a move that has seen shockwaves through
• 44:19
  Speaker 12: the force.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Lawyers have successfully argued in the County Court against any
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: liability because police officers are sworn officers rather than employees,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: fair enough or not.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I mean this will have huge implications for people who
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: are injured at work, who get PTSD all sorts of things,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: and I mean this is a whole area of workplace
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: relations and law. But they are effectively employees. I don't
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: know about the distinction. They're trying to claim their officers.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, yes, that's their title, but in function and
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: effects they're pretty much employees.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I haven't read the whole story obviously
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: because it's just dropped. But there's a difference, like in
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: the police force there's sworn officers and then there are
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: police employees who work for or the police force or
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: the police service but aren't actually officers, and they're covered
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: by two different workplace systems. Police have their own, i
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: think compensation system because of obviously the nature of their work.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: So maybe they're trying to go over it very quickly.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Case like topping Points, victims in Canberra are being left
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: behind as the Office of Public Prosecutions struggles to keep
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: up with staff shortages, growing casteloads and operational demands. The
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: police Union has said, and I've just added that in
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: because my sister lives in Canberra. She's just got her
• 45:28
  Speaker 6: house broken into and they stole her crappiest car and
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: then just left it down the road, so now she
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: has to get it back.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: That's terrible, that's just selfish.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: We can't do only in Victoria, in Aucust, my god,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Canbra's got it as well after the break some of
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the lighter moments from the Peace Summit last night. And
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: look a guy got picked up for drink driving might
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: not be extraordinary in and of itself, wait until you
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: find out what it does for a job. That's coming
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: up in a moment. Joe and I have just formed
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the Late Debate Choir.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: In the Late Debate Barbershop Quartet half of it.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: So now let's get into our favorite segment. You don't
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the day Tonight's entry is Peter Downey, and Downey may
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: well be applicable in this case. He'd be pretty down
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: on himself after this. I imagine he got picked up drink driving.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: He was twice the legal limit or a bit over.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: He blew point one five And look, you probably shouldn't
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: drink drive. I know people get picked up for drink
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: driving every day. But this chap just happens to be
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a drug and alcohol counselor. And when he got picked
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: up drink driving, he was on his way to visit
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a client. So look, all I'm saying is you probably
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: shouldn't drink drive to begin with. But if you're going
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to get picked up for drink driving, how about not
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: being a drug and alcohol counselor. I want to know
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: about the client. Did he actually get to see the client?
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: And is the guy going to see him again? Because
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you see them up with that what you want?
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I really hope you've got a refund.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: They do say if you can't do teach and if
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: you can't recover, counsel.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: So there you go.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: Well, presumably, if you're stuck at home at night and
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: you know you can't find anyone to have a drink with,
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: the one person you do know who's going to say, yes,
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: he's the guy you're treating for alcoholism. Anyway, there's an
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: old saying in politics that if you want to really
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: go to somewhere where you know there's going to be
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: a lot of laughs, head to a Middle East peace conference,
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: because these places they are just a laugh a minute.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: It is just go, go, go go.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Firstly, you know, people have those sort of faces that
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: you just can't quite you know, tell them apart from
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: anyone else. I'm sorry, I'm not being racist. I'm talking
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: about Kiyostama.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: United Kingdom. Where's your need Kingdom?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Where's the friend We're there?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Is anything going to do? Frea good?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: It's gonna you here.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: These people all came and like twenty minute notice.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: And I think it's fantastic.
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: That is Donald Trump just looking around trying to find
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: where Keir Starmy is, and even when he's looking straight
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: at him, he kind of doesn't even know. And then
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Kir thinks they're about to have a conversation and Trump
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: just disappears, probably to tell another story about Steve. Also,
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: there was a beautiful hot mic moment. It wouldn't be
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: an international song without a hot mic moment between Trump
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: and his new BFF, previous frenemy, Mark Carney, the Prime
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Minister of Canada, have a listens, I'm.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Glad you are free to be the president.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Question and yes, that's how you can tell Trump really
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: likes you. He instantly promotes you from prime minister to president.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Has to do what's called bebe president last night as well.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Americans just think the whole.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: World is we don't all operate like that. Thank you
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: for joining us tonight. I'm off for the next couple
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: of days, so enjoy. To be back soon. Is the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: reader patting shop
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: With mm HM