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Ep. 248 ~ HSCA Allegations · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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Remember like Bob Clark and Doug Campbell, they actually devoted their show what was
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it called the lines of the lines of Futcher Party, What right show?
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Yeah? What an embarrassment. I mean everything is going to hail down here
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inducted? Who would take back? No gol? Here you? Oh yeah?
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What's up everybody? It's me. It's me. It's the Triple B.
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Big Bad Bob otherwise known as Rob Clark. Here with you again today
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for another exciting show of the Londgoman Podcast is episode numbered two hundred and forty
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eight. The HSC A Ali Jakins now the House Select Committee on Assassinations was
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formed in the late seventies due to a lot of pushback some things that came
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out of the Church Committee, and also the airing of this approf of film
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on national television in nineteen seventy five. A lot of folks thought that that
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film looks very suss as the kids like to say today, and I do
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agree, the film is certainly suspect. So let's let into like I said,
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The House Select Committee on Assassinations, another official government sanctioned investigative body talented
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to look into the assassinations of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King.
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Now, of course, badly Martin Luther King gets overshadowed when it goes to
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the h h SCA investigation. There's just a lot more information out there classed
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towards the JFK assassination and getting to the bottom of that. So there was
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a lot of allegations that have been put forth over the years by conspiracy buffs
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and those who disagree with the findings of the warrant mission. So the HSCA
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looked at a lot of these allegations and we're going to talk about three of
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them here today. One concerning a whole in the limousine wind screen windshield,
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if you will, also the Joseph Miltier story, and also the Rose share
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now before we get into the show, a little cleaning of the castle,
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if you will that fucking steal a phrase from my buddy st Patrick over
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at the Midnight Ride or News show. A couple of things. One,
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if you haven't already. If you're not already, I'm going to give you
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a big hint you might want to head over to YouTube and subscribe the Lone
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Gumming Podcast. Make sure you hit the notification bell, make sure you like
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what you hear over there, and feel free to share anything you're signed over
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there. I'm just saying something big might be coming to the Lone Gumming Podcast
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YouTube channel. Maybe that's just a little foreshadowing to stay tuned for that.
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Secondly, Lancer the conference this year twenty twenty three, the sixtieth anniversary.
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Your boy like that Bob will be presenting that Lancer. That's right with my
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buddy Joe Borelli, and I urge all of you if you're going to Dallas,
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make sure you head aword to JFK Lancer Publications dot com and secure your
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tickets. If you can't be there in person, they have streaming options and
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also download the entire thing afterwards, or you can stream it and watch along
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live as things get presented. So any of those three ways, I encourage
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you all to check it out if you like this. Joe, Me and
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Joe have been working on something special behind the scenes for probably the past year
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and a half. We have uncovered a plethora, that's right, clethora of
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new information concerning a certain aspect surrounding the assassination and you're not gonna want to
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miss it, and the Lancer will have the exclusive you can only hear it
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there first, and of course subsequently we will be doing more and more and
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more and more shows about it. We can't fit a year and a half
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worth of research into an hour presentation, so you were going to get the
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Lancer presentation first, and then subsequent episodes of the Loan Government Podcast will be
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a meet dive research that you're only going to hear here. So those are
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some very exciting things coming up to the Lone Government Podcast, And like I
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said, you might want to keep an eye on the YouTube channel. Just
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saying, folks, all right, so let's get into the show today.
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HSCA allegations for a couple of different things here now really the only researcher that
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I've ever seen do a deep dive into the windshield of the limousine. They're
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a guy by the name of Douglas Wildon Now. Douglas Weldon was an attorney
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for the County of Kalamazoo, Michigan. He in nineteen ninety nine, I
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will he presented at a lands of conference about the limousine windshield and also contributed
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a chapter in Murdering Daily Plaza in the year two thousand. That would be
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nut Job Jim Fitzer's book before where he became a nut job. So also
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there is a presentation, Well, his presentation at the conference will be available
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by the time you're hearing this. It's going to come out at the same
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time as this podcast. So once you hear this, if you want to
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hear more about what what Douglas Weldon went into depth and his research into the
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windshield of the limousine, head over to the Lone Gumming from the vault and
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you will be able to hear Douglas Weldon's presentation there. It's about two and
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a half hours, so it really goes more into depth than I can hear
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about it. But he is the only one that I've seen that's done some
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really good in depth research into the limousine windshield, a couple of things that
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willed and found. Of course, there's allegedly many people who witnessed a hole
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in the limousine windshield at Parkland Hospital. He says, I consider some of
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these people heroic because considerable pressure was placed upon them to retract their observations.
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Several of these people with whom I have talked directly, remained hesitant to this
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day to discuss their observations and continue to fear for their personal safety. Richard
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Dudman, a reporter for the Saint Louis Post, for example, wrote it
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in an article entitled commentary of an Eyewitness that appeared in the New Republic on
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the twenty one to December sixty three. A few of us noticed a hole
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in the windshield when the limousine was standing at the emergency entrance after the President
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had been carried inside. I cannot approach close enough to see which side was
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the cup shaped spot that indicates a bullet had peered the glass from the opposite
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side. Dudman told interviewers that a secret service station shoved him and the other
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reporters away when he tried to examine the whole to determine the direction from which
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it had been fired. It is interesting to note that Dudman became aware of
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no less than five bullets that were allegedly fired and daily PLAISA that day.
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Dudman was also critical of the lack of security on top of the Triple Overpass,
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noting that the standing Secret Service orders were to keep the overpass clear.
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That order was violated that day. He also wrote at the south end of
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the Viaductor's four short blocks from the office of the Dallas Morning News, where
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Jack Ruby was seen before and after the shooting. No one remember for sure
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seeing Ruby between twelve fifteen and twelve forty five. The shooting occurred at twelve
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thirty. Dudman had declined to discuss the assassination with anyone for many years,
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where his earlier commentary bears mute witness to his presence silence. Former Dallas police
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officer H. R. Freeman, who rode in the motorcade, noted in
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a nineteen seventy one interview by Guiltoff of his observation of the limousine at Parkland.
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I was right beside it. I could have touched it. It was
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a bullet hole. He would tell that it was, and he was not
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the only officer, a type of witness usually prized for his accurate and reliable
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observations, who saw similar damage to the glass. Dallas police officer Stabus Ellis,
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who was in charge of the motorcade escort through Dallas, remarked, you
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could put a pencil through it, So we're extensive interviews with this author.
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Mister Ellis was unequivocal about observing the whole. His recollection was that the whole
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was lower in the windshield, but he was absolutely certain of its existence.
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He did describe the whole as being on the driver's side of the rear view
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mirror, which consistent with other observations and the photographic evidence. He recalls actually
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placing a pencil in this hole. He recounted that there were numerous people and
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police officers Aparkment Hospital who viewed the whole. He vividly remembers that while he
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was observing the whole, a secret service station came up to him and tried
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to persuade him that he was seeing a fragment and not a whole. So
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I guess you can defy the laws of matter and put a pencil through a
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fragment and not a hole. So that's just a little bit about Douglas Weldon.
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And like I said, if you'd like to hear more, head over
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to the loan gumming from the vault and make a listen. You won't regret
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so. But now, this was an allegation that was looked at by the
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HSCA, So let's see what the HSCA had to say about this. Alley
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says, the staff's initial review of Warren Commission materials raised the issue of whether
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the front windshield sent to the FBI lab for examination and later admitted into evidence
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by the Warren Commission was the same windshield as the one on the limousine at
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the time it was returned from Dallas to Washington on the evening of the assassination.
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The presidential limousine was flown from Dallas to Washington and driven to the White
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House garage late in the evening of November twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
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Secret Service Station Charles E. Taylor Ben assigned responsibility for the security of the
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limousine upon its arrival at Andrew's Air Force Base. He rode in the front
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passengers seat while the car was driven to the White House Garage. Taylor observed
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the three and one half hour examination of the limousine conducted by five net the
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FBI experts between two am and five am on November the twenty third, nineteen
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sixty three. His report, dated November twenty seventh, nineteen sixty three contains
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the following language. Of particular note was the small hole this left of center
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in the windshield. What appeared to be bullet fragments were removed, and there's
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an asterix beside it. The asterix leads you to this. The windshield,
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represented to be the one removed from the presidential limousine is presently stored at the
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National Archives. Daff examination revealed that this window has an internal defect. Just
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let to send if there is no hole through the windshield. Secret Service agents
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Davis and elis or ease whatever that is, eies e eas ease. We're
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also present for the FBI examination there. Respective reports stated that they noticed the
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damage to the front windshield when the car arrived at the White House Garage,
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that both of them ran their hands over the outside of the windshield and found
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it to be smooth and unbroken, and the damage to the windshield was entirely
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to the inside surface. There's another asterisk there which leads you to this.
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FBI photographs of the windshield, allegedly taken during the course of this examination of
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the limousine do not establish one way or the other whether there was a hole
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in the windshield. On November the twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three, the
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windshield was removed from the limousine and stored at the White House Garage. In
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March of nineteen sixty four, at the request of the Warren Commission, the
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Secret Service delivered the windshield to the Bureau. The windshield was subsequently was examined
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by the FBI Lab. This examination and the prior examination of the limousine were
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subjects of FBI Lab Inspector A. Frasier's testimony before the warn Commission, volume
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five, page sixty nine baby. In response to a question posed by a
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Commission Council Arlan spector, mister Fraser stated, quote, I prepared the formal
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report of the entire examination of the limousine unquote again, volume five, page
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sixty nine. The Life magazine article in the November twenty fifth nineteen sixty six
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issue quotes Arlan Spector as saying, one of the most impressive pieces of evidence,
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Inspector is the FBI report on the examination of the limousine. It concludes
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that no part of the car's interior was struck by a whole bullet a whole
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bullet. Despite a specific commission request on March eighteenth, nineteen sixty four,
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for quote the report on the exam eamination conducted by the FBI on the President's
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automobile on November twenty third, nineteen sixty three, the staff has not been
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able to locate any such report in the warrant mission files. Indeed, the
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FBI recently informed this committee that they could not find any report reflecting the examination.
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They were able to locate four pages of the examiner's handwritten notes, though,
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which has another asterisk which leads us to this comment. These handwritten notes
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mentioned an internal defect and the windshield just left of center led tracings WARB removed
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from the inside of the windshield. At this point, neither Agent Frasier nor
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any other Bureau employee has been able to examine. Well, that just cuts
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off there. Apparently there's a page missing from this document. The document concludes
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with this. The staff interviewed Secret Service Agent Taylor on December tenth, nineteen
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seventy five, and on that occasion, Taylor was positive that there had been
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a hole through the windshield. He stated that a pen could definitely be inserted
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through this hole from one side of the windshield to the other. However,
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the staff was not convinced that Taylor had actually had the opportunity to examine what
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he believed to be a whole with committee staff. President Taylor recently examined the
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windshield at the Archives. He stated that the windshield was as he had seen
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it in nineteen sixty three, i e. Contrary to his report, there
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was an internal decept and not actually a penetration through and through that they have
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subsequently prepared Navid David and forwarded to the Secret Service for mister Taylor's review and
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his signature. So the hsc A conclude that there was no actual through and
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through hole in the Limou windshield based upon their re examination, okay, of
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the evidence introduced into the Warren Commission. Now, they didn't go out and
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they didn't do a deep dive investigation into this. They went to the archives.
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They took for granted that whatever this windshield is it's in the archives,
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is the one from the limousine. However, Douglas Weldon thinks that it might
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possibly not be the correct windshield. So once again I heard all of you
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two head over to the vault after listening to this show and checking out Douglas
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Weldon's presentation on his deep dive investigation into the limousine windshield if you would like
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to learn more Again, the HCA findings that it was fragments of a bullet
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that struck the inside of the windshield, causing it to crack and splinter,
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and once the fragments were removed from the one side, the interior side of
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the windshield, it left a little indentation where the fragments were removed from,
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but no actual hole. Yet we have these people that were interviewed saying that
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they stuck a pencil through it. So again, if you have a through
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and through bullet hole, it doesn't really mean anything one way or the other.
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A fragment of a bullet or even a fragment of bone could have possibly
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penetrated the windshield and made a through and through hole. Of course, an
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entire full bullet could do the same thing. The question then becomes did it
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come from behind, through the interior out through the exterior of the windshield or
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was it or did it come through the front of the windshield and then into
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the interior of the car and from the alleged trajectory where this alleged hole was
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in the windshield, a bullet could have feasibly traveled in between the two Secret
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Service agents who were up front driving in between or through John Connolly, or
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in between Connelly and his wife, ultimately to JFK and his neck. So
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lots of questions here, with no concrete answers, as per the usual this
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case, folks. All right, Next up, let's check out what the
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HSCA thought about the Joseph mill Tier allegations that the FBI and or the Secret
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Service withheld information relating to Joseph Miltier's threat to assassinate President Kennedy. Now,
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for those of you not familiar, the documentary record available to the committee reveals
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that National States Right Party member Joseph A. Miltier asserted during a November ninth,
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nineteen sixty three, conversation that was tape recorded that President Kennedy would be
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assassinated by someone using a high powered rifle from the window of a tall or
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a tall building or an office building. The Jack Brown of Chattanooga was a
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man who might do the job. Then afterwards officers would leave no stone unturned
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trying to find the killer. They will pick someone up within hours afterwards,
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just to throw the public off. As a quote directly from Joseph Miltier,
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this conversation was recorded by Miami Police Department informant Bucket ass eighty eight, otherwise
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known as William Willie Somerset, and verbatim transcripts were disseminated to the Secret Service
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and the FBI on November the eleventh, nineteen sixty three. However, the
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reports provided the Warrant Commission neither recounted that the threat had been recorded, nor
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the specifics of the threat. Thus, the Commission had no reason to distinguish
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this threat from the hundreds of unsubstantiated allegations that poured into the Bureau of subsequent
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to the assassination. So basically, the FBI and the Secret Service treated this
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threat just as a generic threat towards the President, much like many of the
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others they got with no substantial actual you know, emphasis on Hey, we
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should pay attention to this, so it was largely ignored for the most part.
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On November twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three, Somerset provided additional information on
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mil Tier, the reliability of which was established by the tapes I mean November
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the twenty third conversation. On that date, mil Tier was in the Union
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train station named Jacksonville, Florida, where he stated that he was ubilant over
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the death of President Kennedy and that he had stopped in Dallas on an automobile
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trip through southern cities and that everything had run true to form. Miltier further
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stated that I guess you thought I was kidding I guess you thought I was
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kidding you when I said he would be killed from a window with a high
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powered rifle, unte which led to this. On December of the first,
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nineteen sixty three, two FBI agents interviewed Miltier in Quipment, Georgia. According
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to their report, Miltier emphatically denied ever making threats to assassinate President Kennedy or
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participate in such threats. He stated that he has never heard anyone make any
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threats such as that. He also denied ever having visited Dallas, Texas.
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Now, this is contrary to the fact that they had this guy on tape
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okay admitting to being in Dallas, being jubilant over the death of Kennedy and
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explaining how it was going to go down two and a half weeks before the
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assassination, including rounding up a patsy to throw the public off. How So,
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the HSCA reviewed the Bureau documents. The documents we were told represented all
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FBI materials gathered on mil Tier during the course of the assassination. Investigation revealed
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that on the basis of mil tier statements to the agents and instigation indicating that
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mild Tier was in equipment Georgia on November twenty seco nineteen sixty three, the
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Bureau conducted no further investigation of mil Tier or his known associates, one of
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whom was Don Burrows, a man whose name was found in Oswald's notebook.
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The Secret Service response to the November nine, nineteen sixty three mil Tier threat
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is also instructive. By letter dated January ninth, nineteen seventy six, the
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staff posed to the Seeker Service certain questions relating to mild Tier and the President's
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November nineteen sixty three Miami and Dallas trips. In summary, the Service acknowledge
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receeat of a transcript of the tape and the fact that further investigation of certain
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named persons associated with right wing groups had been predicated upon receipt of the quote
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Miltier information. They assert that this investigation established that none of these persons were
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in the Miami area on November eighteenth, nineteen sixty three. Interestingly enough,
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the Secret Service response to the question of whether Miltier's threat was considered in connection
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with the President's visit to Dallas on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three,
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was not that they conducted a similar investigation in Dallas, but that quote,
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in the absence of any information from the FBI to indicate any of the Miltier
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connected individuals were coming to or President in Dallas, this particular case was not
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considered critical unquote. This response is surprising, and that there is no record
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that the FBI was monitoring the activity activities of any of the named persons on
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anything approaching a daily basis, or that, with the exception of mil Tier
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himself, the Bureau had information indicating that any of these persons constituted a threat
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to the safety of the president, a prerequisite at that time to the dissemination
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of FBI information to the Secret Service. And then we have another asterisk which
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leads us to this. The record does establish that the name of one known
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member of a right wing group in the Dallas area was provided to the Secret
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Service by the FBI. However, he was not one of the quote Miltier
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connected individuals. So basically that HSCAH investigation basically goes over the Warren commissioned findings
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and did not really go out on its own to kind of establish any kind
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of investigatory answer to the question of did Joseph Miltier you know no beforehand about
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the assassination and was he in Dallas. In fact, if you go and
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look at several photographs of Houston Street, the west side of Houston Street,
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there is an individual that has been caught on film and photo that looks a
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hell of a lot like Joseph Miltier, and there are side by side comparisons.
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I'm done with this, and the the likeness is uncanny. Shall we
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say, just go out and google Joseph Miltier and Daly Plaza and you will
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see what I'm talking about. As far as old bucket Ass eighty eight will
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least Summerset. You know, he was an FBI informant. He was an
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informant for the Miami Police Department, and pretty damn good one. It's that
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and who managed to tape record a lot of these conversations, And possibly if
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the Secret Service or the FBI had taken these threats seriously, maybe things would
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have been different in November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. But of course
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at this point we can only speculate. I go into the Joseph Miltier allegations
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and Williams set a lot more in depth than I did here today. Feel
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free to go back in the archives and look for probably around episode one hundred.
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Somewhere around there, you'll see an episode called bucket Ass eighty eight,
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and that's that's what you're looking for, so feel free to go back and
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check that out. Next up is an allegation at the AHNC really looked into
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hard the other we're talking about a couple of pages, but this one they
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took a little bit of a harder look at, and it's something I've never
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really touched here on the podcast before. Maybe a mentioned here or there,
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but as far as a in depths Dive, not really. And it's one
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of the most iconic scenes in the beginning of the movie JFK by Oliver Stone,
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and that's the road share Me story and the HSCA. We looked into
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this pretty good and took into consideration actual researchers, contemporary researchers into this allegation
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to help them. They didn't just rely on things as the Warrant Commission really
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didn't touch this with a ten foot poll. I think Garrison tried to bring
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it up in his investigation, and several independent researchers looked at it, trying
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to make some sense out of it, but I couldn't really, so look
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jump right into Rose share Me. Rose share Me, a heroin, addict
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and prostitute with a long history of arrest, was found on November the twentieth,
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nineteen sixty three, lying on the road near Eunice, Louisiana, bruised
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and disoriented. She was taken to the Louisiana State Hospital in Jackson, Louisiana
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to recover from her injuries and what appeared to be in herclonics withdrawal. Share
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Me reportedly told attending positions that President Kennedy was going to be killed during his
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forthcoming visit to Dallas. The doctor did not pay much attention to the ravings
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of a patient going through withdrawal as cold Turkey until after the president was actually
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assassinated. Two days later, date police were called in and share Me was
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questioned at length. She reportedly told police officers that she had been a stripper
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in Jack Ruby's nightclub and was transporting a quantity of heroin from Florida to Houston
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at Ruby's insistence, and when she quarreled with the two men also participating in
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the dope run, Jeremy said the men pushed her out of a moving vehicle
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and left her for dead. After the assassination, Sharemy maintained Ruby and Lee
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Harvey Oswald had known each other well and said she had seen Oswald at Ruby's
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nightclub, and claimed that Oswald and Ruby had been homosexual partners. Ironically,
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the circumstances of Rose Sharemy's death are strikingly similar to the circumstances surrounding her original
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involvement in the assassination investigation. Rose Sharemy died of injuries received from an automobile
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accident on a strip of highway near Big Sandy, Texas, early morning hours
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of September fourth, nineteen sixty five. The driver stated that Sharemi had been
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lying in the roadway, and although he attempted to avoid hitting her, he
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ran over the top of her skull, causing fatal injuries. Oh It's crucial,
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crucial, crucal. An investigation into the accident and the possibility of a
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relationship between the victim and the driver produced no evidence of foul play, and
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the case was closed. Although Charemy's allegations were eventually discounted for death two years
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later prompted renewed speculation about her story. It was noted, for example,
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that over fifty individuals who had been associated with the investigation into the Kennedy assassination
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had died within three years of that event. The deaths by natural or other
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causes were labeled mysterious by Warren Commission critics and the news media. That skeptics
37:37
claimed that the laws of probability would show that the number of deaths is so
37:39
unlikely has to be highly suspected, As detailed elsewhere, The committee studied such
37:45
claims and determined that they were erroneous. Nevertheless, allegations involving Rose Jeremy,
37:52
often counted among the mysterious deaths, was a particular interest to the committee since
37:57
it indicated a possible association of Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby, an association
38:02
of these individuals with members of organized crime, and possible connection between Cheremie's confinement
38:09
at the State Hospital in Jackson, Louisiana and Oswald's search for employment there.
38:17
Excuse me, in the summer ars nineteen sixty three, that's right, Oswald
38:23
put in a job application at the State Hospital there in Jackson, Louisiana,
38:32
same hospital that Rude Jeremy was taken to. The committee set out to obtain
38:37
a full amount of full account of the Jeremy allegations and determine whether her statements
38:43
could be at all cooperated. The committee interviewed and deposed pertinent witnesses. Files
38:51
from US Customs in the FBI were were requested. Say that five times fast
38:57
information developed during the investigation by New Orleans DA Jim Garrison was examined. Records
39:04
of Sharemy's hospitalization at East Louisiana State Hospital were studied. Hospital records indicate Melba
39:12
Christine Marcatti's alias Rose Sharemi was brought to the State Hospital in Jackson by police
39:17
from Unis on November the twenty first, nineteen sixty three, and officially admitted
39:23
at six am. She was originally from Houston, Texas, where her mother
39:28
still lived, so she was approximately thirty four years old in nineteen sixty three
39:32
and had used many many aliases throughout her lifetime and had lived many years in
39:39
Louisiana and Texas. According to the clinical notes, the deputy accompanying Sharemi said
39:46
the patient had been quote picked up on the side of the road and had
39:51
been given something by the corner. The corner in the Unis was contacted by
39:57
doctors at the hospital and he told them Jeremy had been coherent when he spoke
40:01
with her at ten thirty pm on November twentieth, but he did administer as
40:07
stated. He further indicated that Jeremy was a nine year mainlining heroin addict whose
40:15
last injection had been around two pm on November twentieth, nineteen sixty three.
40:22
The doctors noted that Jeremy's condition upon initial examination, indicated a heroin withdrawal and
40:28
clinical shock. Relevant to Jeremy's credibility was an assessment of her mental state.
40:35
From November twenty two to the twenty fourth, Jeremy required close attention and medication.
40:42
On the twenty fifth of November, she was transferred to the ward.
40:46
On November twenty seventh, she was released to Louisiana State Police Lieutenant Bruge.
40:52
The hospital records gave no reference as to alleged statements made by Cheremi or why
40:59
she was released Lieutenant Fruge on November twenty seven, nineteen sixty three. These
41:04
records do indicate share Me had been hospitalized for alcoholism an arcotics addition on other
41:09
occasions, including commitment to the same hospital in March in nineteen sixty one by
41:15
the Criminal Court of New Orleans. During this day, the woman was diagnosed
41:20
as quote without psychosis. However, because of her previous record of drug additions,
41:25
she may have a mild integrative and pleasure defect that means she's a hoe.
41:35
Her record would show she has intervals of very good behavior, but at
41:37
other times she resents episodically psychopathic behavior, indicative in her history of drug and
41:45
alcohol abused prostitution arrest on numerous occasions. If minor rges like committee interviewed one
41:53
of the doctors on staff at East Louisiana State Hospital who had seen share Me
41:59
during her stage there at the time of the Kennedy assassination. The doctor corroborated
42:04
aspects of the Sharemy allegations. A doctor, Victor Weiss, verified that he
42:08
was employed as a resident physician at the hospital in nineteen sixty three. He
42:15
recalled it. On Monday the twenty eight fifth, nineteen sixty three, he
42:17
was asked by another physician, doctor Bowers, to see a patient who had
42:22
been committed the remember twentieth or twenty first. Doctor Bowers told Wise that the
42:29
patient Rose Sharemy, had stated before the assassination that President Kennedy was going to
42:34
be killed. Wiss's questions share Me about her statements. He told him she
42:40
had worked for Jack Ruby. She did not leave any specific details of a
42:45
particular assassination plot against Kennedy, but it stated that the quote word in the
42:52
underworld on the quote was that Kennedy would be assassinated. She further stated that
42:57
she had been traveling from Florida to her home in Texas when the men traveling
43:01
with her threw her from the automobile in which they were riding. Francis Ferge,
43:08
a lieutenant of the Louisiana State Police in nineteen sixty three, was the
43:13
officer and first team to chair Me's assistance. On November twentieth, sixty three,
43:17
had her committed to the state hospital and later released her into his custody
43:22
following the assassination to investigate her allegations. As such, he provided an account
43:29
further detailing her allegations and the official response to her allegations. Frouge was deposed
43:35
by this committee on April eighteenth, nineteen seventy eight. He told the committee
43:39
that he was called on November twentieth by an administrator at a private hospital in
43:44
Unice that a female accident victim had been taken there for treatment. She had
43:50
been treated for minor abrasions and all those appeared to be under the influence of
43:53
drugs. Since she had no financial basis, she was to be released.
44:00
Cruge did what he normally did in such instances. As the woman required no
44:05
further medical attention, he put her in a jail cell to sober up.
44:09
This arrangement did not last long the woman. The woman began to display severe
44:15
symptoms of withdrawal. Frew said He called a doctor who sedated share Me,
44:21
and Frew transported share Me to the State Hospital in Jackson. Frew said that
44:27
during the one or two hour ride to Jackson, he asked share Me some
44:30
routine question. Rush told the committee she related to me that she was coming
44:37
from Florida to Dallas with two men who were Italians or resembled Italians. They
44:43
had stopped at this lounge and they'd had a few drinks and they'd gotten into
44:46
an argument or something. The manager of the lounge threw her out, and
44:51
she got on the road and hitchhike to catch a ride, and this is
44:54
when she got hit by a vehicle. Fru said the lounge was a of
45:00
prostitution called the Silver Slipper. Fruge asked share Me what she was going to
45:05
do in Dallas. He said she was going to Number one, pick up
45:08
some money, pick up her baby, and then kill Kennedy. Fruge claimed
45:15
during these intervals that share Me related to the story she appeared to be quite
45:20
lucid. Fruge had share Me committed to the hospital late on November twentieth,
45:24
nineteen sixty three, no remember twenty second, when he heard the president had
45:30
been assassinated. Fruge said he immediately called the hospital and told him not to
45:35
really share Me until he had spoken to her. The hospital administrators asserted that
45:42
it's wait, you go. The hospital administrators assented, but said Fruge would
45:50
have to wait until the following Monday before share Me would be well enough to
45:53
speak to anyone. So Fruge waited. Under questioning. Share Me told that
46:00
the two men traveling with her from Miami were going to Dallas to kill kill
46:05
the President. For her part, Jeremy was to obtain eight thousand dollars from
46:09
an unidentified source in Dallas and proceed to Houston with the two men to complete
46:15
a drug deal. Jeremy was also supposed to pick up her little boy from
46:19
friends who had been looking after him. Jeremy furthers applied detailed accounts of the
46:25
arrangement for the drug transaction in Houston. Said reservations had been made at the
46:30
Rice Hotel in Houston, and the trio was to meet a seaman who was
46:37
bringing in eight kilos of heroin to Yalveston by boat. Jeremy had the name
46:42
of the seamen and the boat he was arriving on. Once the deal was
46:46
completed, the trio would proceed to Mexico. Freus told authorities Are told the
46:52
committee that he repeated Sharemy's story to his supervisors and add for instructions. He
46:58
was told to follow up on it, so frug probably took Sharemy into custody,
47:02
as indicated in hospital records, and set out to check her story.
47:07
He contacted the chief customs agent in Galveston, who reportedly verified the schedule docking
47:14
of the boat and the name of the semen. Fruge believed the customs agent
47:20
was also able to verify the name of the man in Dallas who was holding
47:22
Jeremy's son. Fruge recalled that the customs agent had tailed the semen of he
47:29
disembarked from the boat, but then lost a man's trail and Customs closed the
47:34
case. Fruge had also hoped to collaborate other statements made by Sharemy. Wearing
47:39
a flight from Houston, According to Fruze, Sharemy noticed the newspaper with headlines
47:44
indicating investigators had not been able to establish a relationship between Ruby and Oswald.
47:50
Jeremy laughed at the headline, Fruge said, Jeremy told him that she had
47:54
worked for Ruby or a quote Kinky, and she knew him at his nightclub
48:00
in Dallas and claimed Ruby and Oswald had been shacking up for years. Frus
48:06
said he called Captain Will Fritz of the Dallas Police Department with this information.
48:10
Fritz answered that he wasn't interested. Fritz in the Louisiana State Police dropped the
48:15
investigation into the matter. Four years later, investigators from the office of the
48:21
DA Garrison in New Orleans contacted Fruge. Fruge went on detail to Garrison's office
48:28
to assist in the investigation into the Kennedy assassination. During the course of the
48:34
New Orleans DA's investigation, Fruge was able to pursue leads in the Charemy case
48:38
that he had not checked out in the original investigation. Although there appeared to
48:44
be different versions as the house Jeremy ended up by the side of the road
48:47
and the number and identity of her companions, Fruge attempted to corroborate the version
48:52
she had given him. Frue spoke with the owner of the Silver Slipper Lounge.
48:59
The bar owner, a mister mcmanuel since deceased, told Frus that Sharemy
49:06
had come in with two men who the owner knew his pimps, engaged in
49:09
the business of hauling prostitutes in from Florida. When Sharemy became intoxicated in rowdy,
49:16
one of the men quote slapped her around and threw her outside. Frush
49:23
claims that he showed the owner of the bar a stack of photographs and mug
49:27
shots to identify. According to Fruge, the bar owner chose the photos of
49:34
a Cuban exile, Sergio our Cautious Smith and another Cuban Fruge believed to be
49:42
named Osanto our Conscious. Smith was known to Kennedy assassination investigators as an anti
49:49
cast of Cuban refugee who had been active in sixty one as the head of
49:52
the New Orleans Cuban Revolutionary Front. At that time, he befriended anti Character
49:59
Act commercial pilot David Ferry, who was named and dismissed as a suspect in
50:07
the Kennedy assassination within days of the President's death. Ferry and Smith were also
50:13
believed to have ties with a new New Orleans organized crime figure named Carlos Marcello
50:20
Ocasha. Smith moved from the New Orleans area in sixty two to Miami and
50:24
later to settle to Houston. The weekend following the assassination, Ferry took a
50:30
trip to Houston and Galveston for a little quote rest and relaxation, while police
50:37
searched New Orleans for him after receiving a tip to the invent he had been
50:39
involved in the assassination. The committee has found credible evidence indicating Ferry and Oswald
50:45
were seen together in August was sixty three in the town of Clinton, Louisiana,
50:52
thirteen miles from the hospital in Jackson where Jeremy was treated and where Oswald
50:57
reportedly sought employment. Allegations regarding Our Conscious Smith and Ferry and the Committee's investigation
51:04
are set forth in detail elsewhere in their report. Clearly, evidence of a
51:08
link between Sharemy and Smith would be highly significant. Our Conscious Smith, however,
51:14
denied any knowledge of Jeremy and allegations. Other avenues of corroboration of Fruge's
51:21
identification of Sharemy t Sharemy's traveling companion as Sergio or Conscious Smith, and further
51:27
substantiation of Sharemy's allegations remained elusive. US Customers was unable to locate documents and
51:35
reports related to its involvement in the Sharemy investigation, although such involvement was not
51:39
denied, nor could Customs officials locate those agents named by Frugis having participated in
51:45
the original investigation, as they had since left the employ of the agency.
51:52
Since the FBI, who had never been notified by the Louisiana State Police or
51:57
Customs of their interests in Sharemy, the BI file did not have any reference
52:00
to the share Me allegations of November sixty three. FBI files did give reference
52:07
to the investigation of a tip from Melbourne Ladies actually Rose Sharemy and Ardmore,
52:13
Oklahoma, that she was en route to Dallas to deliver two thousand, six
52:19
hundred dollars worth of heroin to a man in Oak Cliff. She was then
52:25
to proceed to Galveston to pick up a load of narcotics from a seaman on
52:29
board a ship destined for Galveston. In the next few days. She gave
52:34
detailed descriptions as to individuals, named, places, and amounts dittributed. Investigations
52:39
were conducted by narcotics bureaus in Oklahoma and Texas, and her information was found
52:44
to be quote erroneous in all respects unquote. A similar tale was told.
52:51
In sixty five, FBI agents investigated a tip from Rozella clink Scales alias Melbourne
52:59
Marcatti's alias Rose share Me like the story is told in sixty three, share
53:04
me clink Scales claimed individuals associated with the syndicate were running prostitution rings in several
53:12
Southern cities such as Houston and Galveston, Oklahoma City, and Montgomery, Alabama,
53:17
by transporting hookers, including share me slash clint Scales, from town to
53:22
town. Furthermore, she claimed she had information about a heroin deal operating from
53:30
a New Orleans ship, a call to the Coast Guard verified, and ongoing
53:35
narcotics investigation of the ship. Other allegations made by the share me slash clink
53:40
Scales could not be verified. Further investigation into share me slash clink Scales revealed
53:47
she had apparently previously furnished the FBI with false information concerning her involvement in prostitution
53:54
and narcotics matters, and that she had been confined to a mental institution in
54:00
Norman, Oklahoma months on three separate occasions, FBI agents decided to pursue the
54:07
case. No further. The FBI indicated agents did not know of the death
54:12
of their informant on September four, sixty five, occurring just one month after
54:16
she had contacted the FBI. Louisiana State Police investigating and share Me's fatal accident
54:22
also apparently did not know of the FBI's interested her. It's been a bye,
54:29
Patricia or researcher for the hs SAT. Now, there's a lot to
54:38
unpack here with the row share Me allegations. Wow, it would definitely be
54:45
helpful if we knew the names of the two men transporting her. Can we
54:52
rely accurately on the one assertion that one of the individuals was identified as Sertio
55:01
or conscious Smith. We can only take the word of a lounge manager,
55:12
bar manager, if you will, who really probably only see these men one
55:17
time for a limited period of time. I don't know, I don't know
55:23
how much faith you can put in that identification. So let's take a look
55:29
social look at Bruce share Me now and February of nineteen sixty seven as the
55:39
years of an investigation with Knoff. We have a New Orleans Police Department Enter
55:45
Office correspondence to the FBI subject and up to date FBI sheet Urgent Urgent urgent.
55:57
Please send us an up to date rap sheet under subject with FBI number
56:00
two three four seven nine two two. White female named Rose Lee Stewart alias
56:07
Melvill Christina young Blood, would appreciate your sending a copy in care of the
56:10
New Orleans District Attorney's Office, Unlian Avenue, New Orleans, Attention mister Charlie
56:17
Ward, Assistant District Attorney or special agent or Mellock District Attorney's Office, same
56:24
address. Quote Our files indicate subject died nine four sixty five in a pedestrian
56:32
auto accident in Upshire County, Texas. Very information received for Sheriff's Office of
56:37
Gilmore, Texas. Subjects record reduced to microfilm, therefore copy not being forwarded.
56:45
If copy record is essential, please advise. The FBI Identification Division answered
56:51
them, well, apparently somebody somebody said yes, it was urgent. So
57:07
we have poppy of Rose sharing means rap sheet which is you and show let's
57:19
see three oh on four tad was long folks four Payton some of the various
57:38
aliases that she had along the way or Patsy Sue Allen. There wasn't San
57:45
Antonio, Texas and Amarillo. She used the alias just teen young blood and
57:52
in Dallas. Same in Shreport, Louisiana, she was milBook just teen young
57:57
blood h in Angola, Louisiana. Melburne Christine New Orleans, Melbourne, Christina
58:07
young Blood h Melboa, Christina Nichols in Houston and New Orleans, Rosalie Stewart
58:22
in New Orleans, Austin, Texas. She was Melbourne, Christine Marcatti's Rosalie
58:30
Stewart, New Orleans, Galveston, Connie Mackie Tucson, Arizona, Penny Sue
58:37
Marcatti's New Mexico, Melbourne, Christine Marcatti's Albuquerque, Melbourne, Marcatis Saint Elizabeth's
58:47
Hospital in DC. She went to Melbourne, Mascottis, Oklahoma City, Zeta
58:54
Maria Johnson Remember Alabama, Zeta Gano, Oklahoma Cities, Zata Marie Giano Montgomery,
59:02
Alabama's Data Irene Scars, New Orleans, Zada Lingiano, New Orleans,
59:10
Razil. Renee is sharing me. I mean you're talking over thirty thirty different
59:17
aliases. It was spanning twenty years, and he charged his reign from vagrancy
59:24
car theft two TU fifty auto. I don't know what that means. Hold
59:36
for Barksdale eighteen soldiers to escape in nineteen forty two and tree Port, Louisiana.
59:43
Whatever that means, larceny UH, drunken public and police station using obscene
59:53
language, also believed to be insane for violating the Dire Act. I have
59:59
no idea what that is? Theft of one hundred dollars patient invoking accessory to
1:00:08
escape, vagrancy d r K, whatever that is the Dire Act again,
1:00:20
vagrancy by by narcotics addict and something else driving under the influence of narcotics on
1:00:31
suspect, simple arson, consturbing the peace on complainant. Now a lot of
1:00:40
these are fine twenty dollars UH released paid fine, affidavit refused by the DA,
1:00:49
affidavit refused by the DA. So even though she was charged with a
1:00:52
lot of stuff, she didn't actually have to get a chord about it,
1:00:57
A lot of it criminally in saying in East Louisiana State Hospitals nineteen sixty one,
1:01:04
Gretton in Louisiana, vagrancy and investigated for vagarancy, loud and boisterous in
1:01:09
New Orleans, Louisiana until it it's twenty first nineteen sixty four, sounds of
1:01:22
good stuff. I mean, it's pretty pretty interesting life this lady. H
1:01:36
And I'm like I said, this is the span of twenty some odd years.
1:01:42
So yeah, it's a lot of it's a lot of. It's a
1:01:47
lot. Okay, it's a lot. But for somebody who led the kind
1:01:52
of lifestyle as a stripper, a prostitute, who was a drug addict and
1:01:57
drunk, uh, a rep sheet like this is to be expected, you
1:02:05
know. I mean, we've been going into sixty four here. She was
1:02:08
in Oklahoma as Rose Sharon Ee okay Rose Elaine Sharony and fort Worth prostitution and
1:02:22
public intoxication resisting arrest in June and Cocoa Beach, Florida, Pensylclola. When
1:02:30
Cocoa Beach she was Rosel Jean Crawford, and and Pensylcola she was Rasel Jean
1:02:37
share Me. In Titusville, Florida, she was Rasel Jay Crawford, and
1:02:43
then in New Orleans rosel Renee Sharemy. So I think she had a different
1:02:51
name for different towns and states that she was in. The one small thing
1:03:00
connected her was, of course, her fingerprints, which was you know,
1:03:07
a big downfall, especially it sounds actually as frequently the same states, the
1:03:10
same cities in these states, and they likely would have known who she was,
1:03:17
given her history. And this we have from an investigator in Frank Maloch
1:03:25
of the Jim Garrison District Attorney's Office or E. Rose share Me, in
1:03:30
March thirteenth, nineteen sixty seven. He gives us this report when February twenty
1:03:37
five, sixty seven, I had occasion to investigate one Rose share Me,
1:03:40
a white female. On November twenty sixty three, Rose share Me was picked
1:03:45
up by Lieutenant Francis Fruge and it's probably Fruge, but don't bust my balls,
1:03:52
please, of the Louisiana State Police on Hawaii Hawaii Nightway one ninety.
1:03:59
Near this Louisiana subjects was supposed to have been thrown from a vehicle by two
1:04:03
white males. Whereas Charman was brought to the Moosa Hospital in Unis, Louisiana
1:04:11
for treatment and then returned to the Unis jail where she was suspected of having
1:04:15
narcotic withdrawals. Assistant Corner of Saint Landrew Parish on doctor F. J.
1:04:20
Droun was called in and he gave Rose a sedative and later had to be
1:04:26
called again when she became violent, stripped off all of her clothing, and
1:04:30
cut her ankles. Doctor Droun agreed to commit Rose to Jackson East Louisiana State
1:04:38
Hospital, and Rose was brought to Jackson in an ambulance from Charity Hospital in
1:04:43
Lafayette, accompanied by a Unis police officer. Rose remained in confinement until November
1:04:49
twenty sixth, nineteen sixty three. It was during this time between the twentieth
1:04:55
and twenty sixth of November sixty three, that doctor Victor J. Weiss,
1:04:59
Jr. Of Saint Antonio, Texas was the house psychiatrist in Jackson. White
1:05:04
stated during her stay at Jackson, Rose had told him that she knew both
1:05:10
Ruby and Oswald and had seen them sitting together on occasions at Ruby's club.
1:05:15
When he asked about the statement that mister McGruder had given to me, he
1:05:20
McGruder states that he told doctor White that the president and other Texas public officials
1:05:26
were going to be killed on their visit to Dallas. Doctor White states that
1:05:30
he doesn't recall whether this was told to him before or after the assassination.
1:05:36
On November twenty six, nineteen sixty three, Lieutenant Fruget was notified by Doctor
1:05:42
White that Rose Shamy had completed her withdrawals and he could now talk to her.
1:05:46
She gave Lieutenant Fuge some information about a narcotic ring working between Louisiana and
1:05:53
Houston. Rose Sharemy was his release to Captain Ben Morgan and Lieutenant Frus of
1:05:58
the State Police and Anne Deekler of the Revenue Division, and flew to Houston
1:06:05
for further investigation of narcotics. While in flight, Rose share Me picked up
1:06:12
a newspaper with headlines of Ruby killing Oswald, and further on down the newspaper
1:06:17
it stated where Ruby denied ever knowing or seeing Oswald in his life. Jeremy
1:06:25
laughed at this and stated to Fruge that Ruby and Oswald were very good friends.
1:06:30
They had been in the club Ruby's together and stated that Ruby and Oswald
1:06:34
are bed partners. On arrival at Houston, she again repeated this story to
1:06:41
Captain Morgan. When I asked to talk to the federal authorities about this,
1:06:45
she refused and stated that she did not want to get involved in this mess.
1:06:50
All information on the narcotics ring was given to Fruge by Rose share Me
1:06:58
was true and good information. Rose was left in Houston and Lieutenant Frous reported
1:07:04
back to Louisiana. On March sixth, nineteen sixty seven, I met Lieutenant
1:07:10
Freuj and Houston and continued they searched for Rose share Me eight th row search
1:07:15
was made of Houston and Dallas, checking first on her mother and Missus Thomas
1:07:18
Jay Youngblood residing at one twenty five Carby Road, Houston, Texas. Subject
1:07:25
Missus young Blood had moved from there to place unknown about two years ago.
1:07:30
A further check revealed that Missus Morris Wall three six two six La Joya Drive,
1:07:35
Dallas, Texas, is the sister of Rose share Me. I contacted
1:07:41
Missus Wall and was informed and on September fourth, nineteen sixty five, Rose
1:07:45
was hit by a car and killed outside of Glade Water, Texas, while
1:07:50
walking on Highway one fifty five, approximately one and a half miles east of
1:07:55
Big Cind, Texas, at about two am in the morning. Under Texas
1:08:00
law, I was unable to obtain a copy of the accident report. I
1:08:02
verified the above incident and accident and death through Lieutenant Shaws of the State Police.
1:08:10
The investigating officer was Texas State Trooper J. A. Andrews of nine
1:08:15
one eighth Success Street, jil Mur, Texas. The driver of the vehicle
1:08:18
was Jerry Don Moore of East Gerwin Street, Tyler, Texas. That's who
1:08:25
killed her. Share me. Next up we have the statement of mister A.
1:08:33
H. McGruder from Detective Frank Mellock and Sergeant Finner Sedgeber to Jim Garrison.
1:08:43
He says, my name is Ah McGruder and I live at four four
1:08:46
three one two Dupless the Street in the Parkchester Apartments. My phone number is
1:08:53
YadA, YadA, YadA. I'm forty seven years old and self employed as
1:08:56
a manufacturer representative. During the Christmas holidays, that date being Christmas of sixty
1:09:01
three to New Year's of sixty four, I returned from a hunting trip with
1:09:05
doctor Victor Weiss, who at the time was clinical director of East Louisiana State
1:09:11
Hospital in Jackson, Louisiana. We were sitting at my home near Saint Francisville,
1:09:15
Louisiana, just having a big bullshit session and he related the story that
1:09:20
I'm going to tell you this is in connection with the Kennedy assassination. Doctor
1:09:26
White said that prior to the Kennedy assassination. By several days, the Louisiana
1:09:30
State Police had picked up a woman on Highway one nineteen near Eunice, Louisiana,
1:09:35
and that she had apparently been thrown out of an automobile. From her
1:09:39
physical appearance, the police thought she was a psychic, that she was psycho,
1:09:45
so they took her to the East Louisiana State Hospital. Doctor Weiss gave
1:09:48
her a thorough physical and psychiatric examination and determined that she was a narcotics at
1:09:55
it and she was having withdrawal symptoms. She told him that she also worked
1:10:00
the dope runner for Jack Ruby. I believe. She also mentioned that she
1:10:02
worked in the nightclub for Ruby and that she was forced to go to Florida
1:10:06
with another man whom she did not name, to pick up a shipment of
1:10:11
dope to take back to Dallas. That she didn't want to do this thing,
1:10:15
but she had a young child and that they would hurt her child if
1:10:18
she didn't. She and this male companion of hers gotten into some kind of
1:10:23
argument or fight, and he beat her up and put her out of his
1:10:27
charm. She also told doctor Weiss That's president and other Texas public officials were
1:10:31
going to be killed on their visits. Dallas White said that he didn't really
1:10:36
pay much attention to a woman or this type until after the assassination occurred,
1:10:42
at which time he went back to this woman who was still in the hospital
1:10:45
and had further conversation with her. Now, this was also after Ruby had
1:10:48
killed Oswald, and she did say that she had seen Oswald sitting at the
1:10:53
same table at Ruby's club, but didn't elaborate any further. About two nights
1:10:59
later, the FBI came to East Louisiana State Hospital and picked this woman up,
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and doctor Weiss had to sign the papers for her release at that time.
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That's about all I've given you doctor Weiss's address and phone number, Sincerely,
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mister ah Ruder. So, folks, take that for what you will.
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I mean, it is what it is. At this point, it
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was Rose sharing me telling the truth. Was her companion Sercio or conscious Smith?
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