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Ice & Fire Picks for 2025-2026 · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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And Kevin? I love my nickname.
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You have so many nicknames. I'm cool just being Kevin.
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Even just Kevin. Well, just Kevin.
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Yeah, exhaust. Simple cat.
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So like I I more went to like a daddy daycare reference.
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If you guys ever seen that, remember that guy?
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That was the flash. I was wearing the Flash costume
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and then he just like, I don't know if I wanna be the Flash.
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And then he's just. Such a restaurant or something.
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But anyway, it's such a deep cut.
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Decided Well, we're supposed to talk about our our fantasy
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hockey pigs. Yes, Kevin, not the Flash.
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Alright, alright. We're we're liaising guys.
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Keep going, keep going. OK, so today we have a really
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fun episode for y'all. It is our Ice and Fire TM
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copyright pics. We each have two players and
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either Ice or Fire or both or one of each, nobody knows.
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That shall be discovered later on and we are going to tell you
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It could be someone's fantasy. Alright, alright, let's get into
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it for those for those patiently awaiting the explanation.
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For the episode. Did everybody already tuned out?
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Everybody still here? We really appreciate it.
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Thanks for rocking. With yes, yes, patience is a
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virtue. So thank you for that.
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And Kevin, why don't you give the explanation for what ice and
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fire, definitely not fire and ice means?
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Yes. So Ice and Fire different from
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our previous episode where we talked about the significant
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signature picks, the significant signature picks, which are just,
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you know, reputations takers that we want to dress in all of
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our drafts. Ice and fire are guys who we
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have personal vendettas against or, you know, guys that we
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cherish really close to our hearts like that we think are
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going to Josh is the smiling profusely.
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But ice picks would be guys that we think are going to do not
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good this season. And maybe that's contrary to
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consensus. And fire picks are guys that we
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think are going to be significantly better or just,
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you know, better than where they're going and better than
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what people generally think. And these are personal pics or
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not necessarily completely aligned between the three of us.
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My picks would be my pick, Josh picks would be Josh picks, and
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Jake picks will unfortunately be Jake.
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I would say fortunately and I was also going to say I don't
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know if a personal vendetta against my guy.
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So maybe that's just me. Yes, I like the chairs close to
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my heart though that. Was that was that was adorable.
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Yeah, I I definitely don't hate my guy.
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I'm just I think it's more for me it's like there's there's
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where he's getting drafted and I think he's gonna end up way like
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either both or whatever. But to me, ice is there's a guy
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getting drafted, he's gonna end up way below his ADP.
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There's a guy getting drafted, it's gonna be way above his ADP.
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He's going to exceed it pretty. Much really close to.
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Her senses and being terrified. Has emotionally attached to it.
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Yeah. Apparently like what I would
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write love letters too and the other I would not share my door
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with him if we were on the. Title Long story, short and far
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from ADP and close to our hearts.
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Thank you, Josh. I I think and hope they get it
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now, yeah. What's your problem?
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So yeah, so Josh is gonna list the name Kevin and I are gonna
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guess. If it's really or fire, you know
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what just reminded me of that? Episode of that show.
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No, that episode of The Office where Michael is waiting on a on
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a whiteboard, he's just like, don't do this.
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And he does like the circle with the bar in the middle.
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I was like buddy everybody has like 2 circles with two bars in
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the middle of this. Like don't, don't, not do.
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This. I don't know.
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I don't know how to make it more clear.
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Alright, yeah, we don't know how to make this more clear, so
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let's dive in. So say your player name, we'll
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guess if it's ice or fire, and you'll tell us what it is.
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Cool. OK, my first pick of my 2 picks
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is Cold Cofield of the Montreal Canadiens.
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This is absolutely Joshi's fire pick because he's a Habs player.
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Fire. Yeah, I'm going to go with fire.
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No, but Josh doesn't like taking halves players.
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By the way, just to the listeners, we haven't seen each
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other's picks before this, so it's all kind of up in the air.
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So maybe I'm big braining this, but I feel like if we go, I'm
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gonna go with fire as well. Usually doesn't like taking
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them. So let's see what he says.
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All right, so this is my fire pick.
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You guys are correct and buggy is correct.
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I usually, I usually fade Habs players because I think they're
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taking too high in our league. Yeah, and look how that worked
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out for me. But I am very excited for what
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cold coffee it's gonna do this year.
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I think that last year, so his last year were .85 points per
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game .21 power play points and 2.9 shots.
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And honestly seeing those shots in my head, I'm like he could do
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better than that. And most people C 2.9 shots.
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You're like that's great, that's great for that category.
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I'm super happy with that. But I think Cofield could be one
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of those guys who flirts with four shots a game.
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And I think one of the things that was eating into his shots
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last year was when Lina was on power play 1.
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So I expect line to be off power play one by mid season, if not
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earlier. I've been seeing in training
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camp that the haves might be even doing some sort of not a
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full split, but actually giving some time to power play too
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because they have enough players to spread it among the two.
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And I've been seeing actually both Line and Demidov on power
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play 2 and they're putting Bolduc on power play one as that
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fifth guy knows what they're actually going to go with.
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But there's definitely something being played around with.
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And I don't see line sticking power play on all year.
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And I think the second line is off power play one.
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Cofield is back to being the trigger guy and that adds a lot
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of shots on goal to what he's going to do.
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So also behaves as a whole just got a lot better this offseason,
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whether it's the acquisitions they made of Dobson or whether
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or Bolduc or whether the young guys just taking another step
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forward. So when you're one of the key
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pieces of a team and all the surrounding players got better,
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you're also gonna get better. So I think that Caulfield is a
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big, big name who's gonna jump up and impress a lot of people
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this year. When you said flirting with four
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shots on goal, I just like imagine Cole going to like like
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a four shot. Oh hey, how you doing girl?
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Come here often. What's an elite stat like you're
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doing in a place like that? That's exactly what I meant.
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I'm glad you got that. So I'm extremely high on the
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haves and the highest of everyone here.
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I don't know if you mentioned Demidov and how he's such an
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elite playmaker too. I mean, he made a pass to line
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in the most recent preseason game was insane.
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And I actually am high on line. Doesn't necessarily mean that I
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don't think that negatively affects Cofield so badly, but
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it's what I mentioned in the previous episode when I was
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speaking about Sergachev. It's like there's a lot of guys
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could be on this power play one. There's no question call field,
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it's gonna be there. So even if Ryan is there, Coffee
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will get more assists. If he's not, he'll just get more
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goals. You know what I mean?
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There's a lot of potential for Caulfield to have.
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I think he's already had breakout years, but like a mega
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breakout year. He hasn't hit a point for game
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yet. Last year he had 70.
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This year I think 85 is within range and finally getting
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correct forward goal hurdle that he's been.
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Or to never, yeah. Exactly, exactly.
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He won't. We won't be able to say that
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about him anymore. But yeah, it's a great year to
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own Habs players, I think, in your fantasy league, and he's
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definitely one of those top ones that I want.
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Yeah, I mean, I think similarly to Jakey and and what you said,
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Josh, I think the Habs power play is going to be better.
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I think the haves are going to be better and I think Coffee is
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going to just simply be better by playing with Suzuki for
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longer, having more talent around him.
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He can definitely hover around, you know, the the floor feels
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like 3, which is already a pretty high bar.
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If he gets anywhere close to four.
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It's just tremendous value for where you're getting him in
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drafts. I'm not worried about that power
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play. Like you said, I think line
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Lenny is good for one thing, and it's being on the power play and
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I feel like I've been outspoken about this.
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But I just think that like, even if that's the only thing he's
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good, he shouldn't be there because we can still be
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successful without him there and we need to, you know, put the
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best players in the best spots. I think the power play should
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have line on P2. Put them above there.
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Keep slapping a different guy. I think realistically from what
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we saw in preseason that like what you referenced key that
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that demand often line pass was sick.
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But now just imagine if it was like Demidov to Caufield because
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line is not there. I even think there's a chance
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that Sloth gets bumped off and they just leave line right there
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and and Demidov and Cofield somehow make their way onto
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this. But either way, I just think
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he's a great player. I think the haves in general are
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super fun this year and also good.
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Like, we made the playoffs. Don't forget we made the
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playoffs last year. Yeah, This year we're poised to
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do better than we did last year. I'm super high on Cofield.
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What are you thinking? Images though, that's the thing.
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Hmm. Wouldn't you like to know?
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I would. No, I'm kidding.
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I think. I think you could be 6 seventh
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round or something like. That 6-7 sorry 6 just set me up,
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didn't you? Yeah, I I agree.
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Like I, I'm not necessarily reaching on him, but I totally
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think he's gonna exceed his ADP, you know, I, I think.
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Like, I mean, that's the whole man.
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Yeah, that's the whole point of the fire pick, right?
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But. Yeah, you'll drive them in the
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6th or 7th and he's gonna end up being like a fourth round value,
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Yeah. Would you, would you, would you
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take him ahead of a guy like like the Brincat?
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Yeah, no. Question.
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Yes. OK.
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What about like a I don't want to say no.
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We're gonna talk about do you think?
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Like, I feel like realistically what we want from from Cofield
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is what like Clayton Keller does.
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And I think he has a range of outcomes.
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Yeah, really like going into 7th.
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Grade point per game plus like not plus by much, but he can be
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over a point per game over three shots on goal and solid power
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play points. That's like a fourth round pick
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value like Chicky was saying. And you can get him in the 6th
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or 7th. So I think that's that's why
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he's my fire pick. Marchenko or Coffield?
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That's a good one. I'm actually going to go with
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Cofield. Why?
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I think Caufield shoots more I I'm really like I'm a believer
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in the the shot positive regression this season. 2.9 to
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me like I said was is his like floor or as Marchenko last
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season averaged around 2.8. Obviously it ramped up towards
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the end of the season but I definitely see getting more
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points. I see the Hawks power play being
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better than Columbus's and points wise they might be
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similar but I'd give the edge for the shots.
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Or if he gets 4, that's like amazing.
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And then he will get 40 goals, like almost no brainer.
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And then, yeah, you're super happy with that on your team,
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OK. This could give us.
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One, I don't know what y'all are gonna think, so I'm gonna say
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the player's name and you're gonna let me know of the
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Nashville Predators. Steven Stamkos.
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Steven Stamkos, if everything that I know about JQ would lend
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this to be his fire pick. This just screams like a janky
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fire pick. I I'm so low on staff because I
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can't imagine anyone thinking he's gonna be good.
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I'm gonna say ice. Burger Josh is right, it's my
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ice pick, thank. God, the relief I just felt.
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Kevin doesn't believe in you at all.
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Like, Ouch, whatever, he already said that he he's rising on the
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Blues, so I can't be mad about it.
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Anyway, why? Steven Stamkos is my ice pick,
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who I definitely don't hate, by the way.
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I want to reiterate that. And I would share my personal
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vendetta against Steven. Stamkos no personal vendettas.
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I don't know why. Kevin I don't know what Kevin
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feels about his picks later, but no personal vendetta against
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Steven. Stamkos, He is one of the greats
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and it's sad to put him in the ice category because he has such
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a great career up until this point, but I don't think there's
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any real hope for a Nashville bounce back this year.
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This is not at all to discredit the year like the career that
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he's had, but essentially one thing that I would kind of point
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out is that Stamkos has always played with great players and
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Forsberg is a very good player, but he's not an amazing insanely
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like generational. Not controv.
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He's not Kucherov. He's not single.
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We he's not Lecavalier. He's not, I mean, Hedman, yeah,
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yeah, he's he's he's been around.
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I would say that Hedman and Yoshi have had similar careers,
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but at this point in his career, he's not as good as when Stamkos
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used to play with admin, right? And he's not kind of like he's
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amazing. He's always been so good.
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But he's not like a make something out of nothing type
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guy like Crosby who's been able to succeed despite having a
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horrible team with him. And at this point, Sam Cost is
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35. So I don't really think that
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he's going to be the spark that Nashville needs.
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And and you know what? It's it's I think his shots on
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goal are gonna hover around too. And I think you're just gonna
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be, yeah, disappointed drafting him.
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It's at cost. With all that being said, I'm
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kind of unsure of what's actually going to happen with
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him this year because he's such a known commodity that, you
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know, he's going around 8. My eighth round pick, I was
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checking this out when I was looking into this yesterday.
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Now everybody knows Stamkos and before this it's been like 5
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consecutive years of a point per game and then there's a huge
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drop off to 53 and 82 games last year.
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Do we think that because of what happened last year, he's gonna
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fall and people are going to like let him slide or you think
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people are going to take him at cost?
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Because I don't think people are going to reach.
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Nobody's reaching on time coast. He's definitely gonna slide like
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he he could be. I'm super low on him and on
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Nashville, but I think he's gonna slide really far, to the
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point where he really doesn't have to do much to make it worth
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the draft value where he gets taken.
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But I'm still not interested. Yeah, I think if you're looking
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at, I'm looking at basic Yahoo ADP and they have him around
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pick 128. That's not like for your Bangers
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league. That's not for any specifically.
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That's like a standard Yahoo league.
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They haven't met at the ADP 128 expert rank around 1:50.
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So that's already just you can see that the experts rank came
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later than what his ADP is. Let me give you some names
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because I'm curious, because obviously like we're doing fire
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and ice and so that was already pretty low on your draft board.
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So for him to be an ice on top of that, you kind of you have to
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draw the line somewhere of if he's even going to be valuable
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for in any at any point this season.
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Like would you rather have Stamkos or Matt Dushane?
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Duchene. Duchene.
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OK, well that's already I feel like a pretty low bar given how
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everybody is low on on Duchene. But what about Stamkos?
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Or like a Richard Raquel. Raquel for sure.
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Well, that's. Probably sound gross.
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Really look at that after the season Raquel had last year,
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like I'm I'm I don't think Rachel can do anything near what
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he did last year. Like you're naming all the guys
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on low on so it's it's good. Would you rathers?
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But to me, that's. A no, You know what?
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You know I'm fine. Yeah.
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I changed my mind. Stamkos or or Logan Stankovic?
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Stamkos. Thank Robin.
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What? Yeah, yeah, I I was just
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thinking that like with Raquel, he's probably just gonna get
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traded. So I'm kind of thinking of the
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fact that I don't like when players get traded mid season,
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but Stan Coven at least has the opportunity, I think to be good
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on what may be a different Rod offence.
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But yeah, we'll see. I mean, Stamkos is a it's a
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mess. It's.
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A mess I'm course or one of our favorite sleepers, Morgan Geeky.
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Geeky. Alright, so if if you're Morgan
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Geek is going undrafted in any draft, that's not like 1718
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rounds plus 15 rounds plus. So if you're taking Geeky over
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Stamkos, you're just not drafting samples and that's
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pretty much it. So you would let them slide
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around 18, Josh, I was thinking like.
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Geeky is not gonna go that late. No, you could probably go around
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in our league. We plan a 14 team league for
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this is your first time listening.
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Like our league, our home league is 14 teams, like 22 rounds
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deep. Rosters are like 20 plus.
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So yeah, yeah, for him to go 15 plus, I feel like at that point
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it's you're taking a lot of flies.
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We're taking a lot of guys that are not cemented geeky.
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I would take over Stamkos so. Cutter, Cutter, Gotcha or
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Stamkos? That's close, honestly.
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I think I'm not gay. I'm not sure what goatee is
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capable of in the back cats, so that's why I'm not sure.
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But if he's not, if he can't do much in the back, I'll take the
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flyer on Stamkos there. But neither I'm too excited.
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About yeah, I think I'm gonna go there.
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Let's just. We're just wild, right?
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I mean this is like. Literally easier to go, yeah.
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That's why he's your eyes. It's it's major ice.
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All right, Kevin, let's move on to one of your choices.
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Alright, I feel like both of mine could be kind of spicy, to
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be honest. They can go either way, yeah.
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So let's talk about my first pick, Logan Cooley.
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Now where do you guys think I'm going with this one?
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That's really tough. Yeah, cause cause we've spoken
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about how we have no idea if he's gonna actually end up on
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Power Play 1 So and I and I know Kevin, Kevin doesn't really have
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like a super strong feeling one way or the other on that like
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it's. Tough.
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Well, we're about to find out. Yeah, I know.
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At least up until now. I think it's your fire.
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I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go fire 2.
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I think that college is fun enough player that maybe, maybe
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you believe in his power. Play 1.
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Yeah, the no blackouts though is like a real question mark
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that's. Yeah, especially with Kevin, how
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he likes to take his guys. Alright, Kevin, what do you got
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for us? He is going to be my fire pick.
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So you guys were both correct with Logan Cooley.
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I feel like the biggest question that everybody has about him is
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that P1 deployment, which he did not have last year.
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And if you look at his stats from last year, he average, you
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know, .61 points per game. Sorry, more than .61 points per
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game. It was .886 points per game.
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OK. Yeah, that's.
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What I thought, yeah, sorry, I was, I was looking at something
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else, but 2.11 shots per game and the rest of the category is
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obviously are not anything to write home about.
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But the main thing with him is he was on this quote UN quote 1B
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power play and he still got 0.27 points per game.
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I think this yeah, PowerPoint, sorry, this year he I think he's
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cemented as the 1C on this roster.
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Last year we saw, you know, Barrett Hayton get exposure
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there in the beginning, but he's going to be playing with Dylan
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Gunther and J Peterken most likely, if what we're seeing in
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these line rushes in the preseason games are are going to
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be accurate. And even if like one of those
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winners get swapped out, like he can play with Clayton Keller or
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Nick Schmaltz, which is not the the the lowest of low linemates
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either, right? I just think he's set up to have
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a huge year this year. I think he can break a point per
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game. I think he can get over 2.5
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shots a game. I think also if he gets that P1,
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you're drafting him at his floor right now with the value of him
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being on P2 when he cracks P1, I think he becomes one of the best
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centres in fantasy. I think we will see him close to
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you know those ranges of like the Robert Thomas and and stuff
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like that, because Robert Thomas gets you know, over a point per
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game, two shots a game. If Logan Cooley is already
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beating him in the shots a game and getting maybe less 510 less
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points and you're drafting him 5 to 8 rounds later, that's just
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going to be tremendous value. I think his ADP is so low
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because of the uncertainty and you can take advantage of that
21:51
and get them. As you know, he could be the two
21:53
senior officer, 3 senior roster depending how deep your league
21:56
is and I'd be thrilled to have that.
21:59
Yeah, I like this pick a lot. It's like you said.
22:01
Where even without the power play 1, he did so well.
22:05
This really feels like a lot like your Hagel love.
22:08
You know, it's a it's a guy who has the floor of even without
22:12
the power play 1, they're super, super good.
22:14
And if they get the power play one, they just they're stealing,
22:16
just flies right off. So it feels very similar to me.
22:20
And yeah, definitely it's getting taken into account in
22:22
his ADP where he's dropping because of that.
22:24
I will say one thing, if you're in a face off wins league,
22:26
having a pure C who only ones like 5 faceoffs is A is a bit
22:29
rough. But leads are not face off
22:31
league, so that's why I'm for sure you know, with the grain of
22:33
salt. But yeah, absolutely.
22:35
Yeah, so that's one thing to consider, but if you're not in a
22:38
face off win league or honestly for where he's dropping to you,
22:40
a guy who can be a point per game .3 power play points with
22:43
two shots in tenth round, 11th round, something like that.
22:48
Ninth, somewhere between the 9th to 11th round.
22:50
That's a that's a huge deal. So I like this pick a lot.
22:52
I think you get a point per game this year.
22:54
I don't think that's crazy out of the range of outcomes.
22:56
He definitely has the skill for it, will be given the
22:58
opportunity, but even if he doesn't get all the opportunity
23:01
he's shown he could still put up numbers.
23:03
Yeah, give you guys some questions like some, would you
23:05
rather I'm curious or give me? Just want to say what the
23:08
faceoffs is basically like, you're totally right and I don't
23:12
expect anything super great, but he's very young and face offs
23:16
are something that does come with experience.
23:18
So one of those major stats that players evolve with.
23:22
I think only like Barkov and Crosby were studs coming out of
23:25
the gate, where as with him, if he is that guy who's going to be
23:29
taking the most faceoffs on their team, I'm very high on it.
23:33
And also he, he really does have, I mean, Hayton's good.
23:37
He's like a good actual player, but he's not great.
23:40
And they need like he Logan Cooley could be an elite centre.
23:44
So he has a real nice path to being their number one guy, both
23:48
on the power play and line 1. Hayden's a 2C or 3C, Logan
23:51
Cooley's A1C on your team, and I don't think him not being that
23:56
good in faceoffs is going to hold them back from being on
23:58
that power play one if he's the 1C of this team.
24:01
So I think when when push comes to shove and they have to put
24:03
players on that top power play, I think he inevitably becomes
24:06
one of those guys if he's the best centre on this team by far.
24:10
Yeah. And also, I just want to say
24:12
like, would you rather Logan Cooley or John Tavares?
24:16
Tavares. I yeah, he can't not.
24:20
Look at who gets more points this season.
24:23
I see Quality having more points.
24:25
I see Tavares probably getting more power, play points, way
24:27
more face offs. Obviously I'm talking our
24:29
league, which counts face off. That's a big one.
24:31
Price is gonna get way more shots.
24:32
He's gonna get a couple hits more.
24:34
So like way more hits to ours is just too much of a complete
24:37
player for our league settings to take coolly over him.
24:40
But I would not be shocked at all if he gets more points.
24:42
So if you're in a points league, I could see going coolly.
24:45
Cooley. Cooley, or more chiefly.
24:49
I going safely. I'm I'm looking coolly about
24:52
both of those guys. Wow, OK, looks like I'm getting
24:56
him in her house. I have a conviction on Logan
24:58
Cooley, I think. I think Logan Cooley gets 80
25:01
points minimum. I think yeah, but chiefly is
25:04
gonna like easily do more than. That I I can see Shifley getting
25:08
between. I think chiefly can get around
25:11
hover around 80 as well. But I like Cooley more.
25:14
I think he gets more shots than Shifley with with Tavares.
25:18
Obviously Taveras will have the edge and the shots, but I don't
25:20
think the virus gets close to 80 points.
25:23
Yeah, I just think the backups are too much.
25:25
I don't think he's gonna. Have I'm not I'm not looking,
25:27
I'm not looking at the face off wins.
25:29
But I think if if Cooley gets, let's say I'm giving
25:33
hypothetical numbers, but if Taurus gets .5 shots more game,
25:38
I don't think that makes up for Cooley getting 10 more points.
25:42
Yeah, yeah, like a full shot more per game.
25:46
And so I guess it just depends on what you're projecting, but
25:48
yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
25:49
No, that's fair. I mean, I'm surprised by that.
25:52
You're not usually. This is not usually your type
25:53
of, I don't think, but I. Think this is scary with our
25:57
draft in two days, I don't know what to expect.
26:02
If if Logan Cooley starts on P1 going into the season playing
26:06
with Gunther and Patterico or some combination of Keller and
26:10
Gunter or something like that with P1 that's stacked like
26:13
that, what is stopping him from just, you know, getting over 80
26:18
points if anything, if the guys around him are going to be
26:20
hitting that threshold? Found him too, I just.
26:25
I don't think he's going significantly later in drafts,
26:27
so. You just named really good guys.
26:29
OK, well, have a good one. What about Rupe hints or Cooley?
26:33
Cooley. I think.
26:34
Yeah, Cooley for sure. OK.
26:35
So we're really considering him in this like much more elite
26:38
conversation than probably where.
26:41
He's like he wants versus Cooley the way I see it as Hints also
26:45
doesn't win any faceoffs and doesn't get any back hats.
26:47
So at that point it's really who thinks getting more points and I
26:49
like Julia. Also Hints has competition for
26:52
1C. Not that he's gonna, you know,
26:54
necessarily lose it, but Johnston could easily be A1C.
26:56
Would you take him over Large and Kevin?
26:59
No. I think Larkin just has a really
27:02
high shot threshold. Like I'm, I'm really confident
27:05
that he will get significantly more shots, but I would take, I
27:09
think Cooley gets more points. OK, so he would take Julie over
27:12
Larkin? It just depends because they're
27:15
not going to be in the same spot in your dress either, right?
27:17
So yeah, but do I think Cooley will be a better value, or do I
27:21
think Cooley will be a better fantasy player?
27:23
Wow, I think it's gonna be close.
27:25
What? What did what did Cooley do to
27:27
you? This is.
27:29
Very You don't wanna know what he did to me.
27:32
Alright, let's let's let's go on to the next one.
27:34
But this was a very interesting Kevin.
27:36
Smart fire. Yeah, that was a fire stick.
27:39
I left. I love that.
27:40
Yeah. All right.
27:41
My next guy is Nikolai Euler's of the Carolina Hurricanes.
27:47
What do you guys? Think a rod players equals
27:50
iPlayer. Hates Rod.
27:53
This is the biggest ice of all time.
27:56
There's so many reasons why I have 0 interest in having him on
28:00
my team and but I'll start with his last year.
28:02
So to actually surprise me with how how good they were.
28:05
So last year he had point .91 points per game .32 PowerPoints
28:09
and 2.5 shots. That's really, really solid.
28:11
So but here's why I think he's gonna do a lot worse than people
28:16
are gonna people are gonna look at his last season, they're
28:19
gonna look at the trade a lot of exciting stuff, his news, you
28:21
know, follow that money, what I always say, but they're going to
28:24
be excited on him. But here's.
28:25
Why? I do always say that, but here's
28:27
why I'm not personally excited on him.
28:29
First of all, he's never healthy.
28:31
So again, I don't like using that as a big, you know, factor,
28:34
but it's definitely something to to mention he's, I mean once.
28:38
Your carburetor. Season so yeah exactly it's a
28:40
tiebreaker so that's just throwing that out there he's
28:42
never healthy second of all he just got treated Carolina at the
28:44
Rod curse we talked about that a million billion times.
28:47
Euler's is the prototypical guy who will get hammered by rod.
28:51
He is a very offensive guy who doesn't necessarily bring that
28:56
much in terms of two way play and Rod wants all his players to
29:01
be amazing defensively and OK offensively.
29:04
So I think there's a prime candidate for the Rodgers and
29:07
then looking at the team he's going to, he went from the
29:10
literal first power play in the league on Winnipeg to the 28th
29:13
power play in the league on Carolina.
29:15
So unless you think that he was the magic touch that made it the
29:19
first power play and he's gonna go into Carolina and bring them
29:21
up 27 spots, there's a clear drop here in in power play
29:26
production. You take away .15 power play
29:28
points and all of a sudden he's at .75 points per game, 2.5
29:33
shots. That's not someone I'm very
29:34
excited to have on my team. So with all these reasons, he's
29:37
my ice pick. I think he's got a flashy name
29:40
these days. Anyone who gets traded, I think
29:43
people get excited on them, even if the trade is not necessarily
29:45
good for them. So so yeah, that's what I think
29:47
about him. I have two things, Yeah, I was
29:51
gonna say, do we genuinely think Caroline is going to be the 27th
29:54
power play in the league this year or do we think there gonna
29:57
be more about no league average or even better?
30:00
Move them up 8 spots, the 20th. Last year he was on the 1st
30:03
power play in the league. They're not sniffing top 10.
30:06
No, the other thing is how do you take this take and compare
30:12
it to what Jake confirmed to us, where Nicola Elder is not good
30:15
enough to be affected by the Rod curse?
30:18
Yeah, I remember, I remember. I didn't, I didn't necessarily
30:23
agree with that. I think I mean, look at his
30:24
production from last year. I think that the reason he
30:27
hadn't had that production years prior is because they refused to
30:29
put him on Power Play 1. He finally gets put on Power
30:32
Play 1 and then gets shipped off.
30:34
So I do think Ellers is a very talented player.
30:36
I've liked him for years. I've avoided him because of his
30:39
production, of his deployment. He finally got to the
30:42
deployment, but now I'm avoiding him because he got traded to a
30:44
rod team. So I do think he has the talent.
30:47
He could be really, really strong player if he was in a
30:51
better position to succeed, as he showed last year.
30:54
But I think he's definitely susceptible to the Rodgers.
30:57
You know that Anakin and Padme meme?
31:01
You know I'm talking about. Yes, I know exactly.
31:03
So it's like Euler's face to rod.
31:07
It's like, wow, after we're performing so well last year and
31:09
getting like traded here with a decent contract, I'm a shoe in
31:13
for power play one, right, the Anakin.
31:16
And it's like, right. Yeah.
31:19
So, so it's when I said that I just mean that that the drop in
31:24
Rantanen was like absurd you. Know so I was teasing.
31:29
No, no, it's a fair thing to bring up, honestly, because 63
31:33
and 69 last year was his. 6/7. Was his his record.
31:41
And it's not as if that's so incredible, right?
31:47
He's not an elite player whose fantasy value is gonna like go
31:51
down so much because it wasn't that that high to begin with.
31:54
Now it's not going to be better. It's gonna be worse.
31:57
It's just I don't know if it's gonna be so much worse as bad as
32:00
you think, you know what I mean? But that being said.
32:03
As far as? Yeah, as far as the objective
32:06
output goes, ignoring last year, yeah, you just can't trust a
32:10
player on this team. The only guy good enough to do
32:13
this or two it's it's Aho and Marty Natures, who's now moved
32:17
on to bigger and. Better things.
32:19
Can't forget about Seth Jarvis the GOAT.
32:21
That's true. That's true.
32:23
Yeah. So I don't know.
32:24
I mean, he's not elite and I think that he's just going to be
32:29
moderately worse. And nobody should be hyped up by
32:32
the new team situation that he's dealing with right now.
32:36
It's not a good team to be on for fantasy purposes.
32:39
I will play devil's advocate though, and I will say that, you
32:42
know, if he plays a full season and hypothetically he gets the
32:47
same exposure the whole season, he's playing line one with Aho,
32:50
he's on P1. Like I feel like he is quote UN
32:54
quote set up for a good year. Like he could get three shots a
32:57
game, you know, 7075 points and get like over 20 power play
33:03
points. Like that is definitely in the
33:05
range of outcomes, right? But I feel like he's getting
33:08
priced in closer to that ceiling where we think that the floor is
33:11
definitely lower than what it could be.
33:13
But I think my main question is, does Rod hates fetch more than
33:16
he hates Ellers? And because so then that means
33:21
he's probably safe to be. So stay on this power play if.
33:23
Such is not worried about getting bumped off.
33:26
I'm not worried about him getting bumped off.
33:27
I do think it is a worry cuz doing crazy stuff so it's
33:32
definitely possible. Which already sucks but that's
33:34
not even why I put him as my ice.
33:35
I assume he's planning power play on the whole season.
33:37
I just think it's a lot worse power play one to be on than
33:39
Winnipegs from last year. Would you rather Nick Euler's or
33:43
Timo Meyer? I would take Timo and that's
33:46
fully knowing that team is not sniffing powerfully one unless
33:48
someone gets injured. Either with the break up.
33:52
To bring it. Same.
33:56
I was gonna say. Yeah, one last one.
33:59
Move on to my. Years or Nugent Hopkins nudge.
34:03
Wow so nude is not like a big shots guy or anything.
34:07
Nude is just a power play merchant at this point in his
34:09
career. Yeah, what a power play
34:11
merchant. What a power play to be on.
34:14
There's over Nudge. OK, nice.
34:17
I think that's. Really shots and you can get the
34:19
same amount of points, just Nuggets 5 or 10 more power play
34:22
points. Yep, OK, My next pick is of the
34:31
Detroit Red Wings Moritz Cider. Brother of Dixon, yeah.
34:37
That joke is never going to get old, isn't it?
34:40
I laugh every time. This is a clear fire.
34:47
I'm so high on this guy and I believe everyone else is too.
34:50
Yeah, I don't think anybody lawn mower inside of this year
34:52
especially, I mean specifically in bangers leagues obviously.
34:55
Yeah. Dixon's brother is gonna have an
34:59
insane year. I think he's such an amazing
35:02
pick. Even if you reach on him,
35:05
there's just such a nice floor with those banger categories.
35:08
And I actually think Detroit's gonna have a decent offence this
35:11
year. So I'm super high on him and
35:14
essentially the like with all that, him being a staple on the
35:19
power play and the fact that I think they're gonna concede a
35:21
lot of goals. It's just it doesn't necessarily
35:25
bode well for him in a plus minus league.
35:27
But he'll get a lot of block shots, a lot of hits, a lot of
35:30
shots, just like he always does. And the offence is just going to
35:32
have an uptick from last year. Yeah, he another thing he has
35:38
not missed a single game in his entire career.
35:42
That's unreal. You just jinxed them.
35:44
Oh God. Listen, with the way German
35:47
engineering is just, I don't think jinxing really matters.
35:52
He's played four full full seasons and he hasn't cracked.
35:58
I mean, he's gone to 51 time and that was in his rookie career.
36:01
He's never cracked ten goals. These are all things that I
36:04
would expect a, you know, 24 year old defenseman to be able
36:08
to just take to the next level. And yeah, he's the 15th
36:12
defenseman off the board and Bangers League this year.
36:14
I think he's gonna end up ranked top ten.
36:16
There's guys like Yoshi, Theodore, Fox and Chicken all
36:19
going ahead of him and I would take cider over them.
36:22
Yeah, I think it definitely depends on your league settings
36:25
because if you're in, if you're not in a league that is like
36:28
very rewarding of Bangor categories, he's definitely
36:30
going a little later. He's outside of the top 10
36:32
defensemen in Bangors leagues. He's going to be like the 4th
36:36
through 6th defenseman drafted depending on personal preference
36:39
and and where you are in your drafts.
36:41
I think he is set up to have his best season yet, which is scary
36:46
because we've already seen him be, you know, super elite when
36:49
it comes to hits blocks. His shots have obviously not
36:52
been like spectacular, but you don't need them to be when he's
36:54
hitting and blocking so much. And he's going to be the power
36:57
play 1 defenseman for the entirety of the season barring
37:00
like, you know, the wheels completely falling off or
37:02
somebody getting somebody being extremely good.
37:06
That's a surprise to us with which would be surprised to me
37:09
was given this decor. So I think cider is set up to
37:12
have a huge floor this season and he could have his best
37:15
points season yet on a Detroit team that I feel like this is a
37:19
make or break year for them. Like either they they they are
37:22
out of the rebuild cycle and kind of in limbo or they're a
37:26
competitor or they blow it up. Like it just feels like Eiserman
37:29
his his career depends on how well they do this season.
37:32
And I think Cider will be a tremendous, tremendous player,
37:35
fantasy team. I the fact that he's your fire
37:39
pick though, I'm like how high would you be willing to take
37:41
him? Hi.
37:43
Add him to his around 3 year. Yes, getting 5 round, 3 picks
37:47
and that's it. Hi.
37:49
High like I have a a fun little nifty plan.
37:52
For you taking him in the seconds.
37:54
Oh my God, no, no. Good.
37:58
No, I think that's too high. I'm just trying to get you to
38:01
think of a second. You know what it is?
38:04
I find that more Cider is the defenseman version of Vinnie
38:09
Trojak, where I'm like, always mad to play against him.
38:14
Always. I'm just like.
38:18
In the second round, though, Shakey's first four rounds is
38:20
gonna go like dry Sydal into natures into Trocheck into
38:24
cider. Honestly would that be so bad
38:28
though? I like it.
38:29
That's fun. That's.
38:31
Fun. It's also just that like these
38:33
are guys that you're technically reaching on, but they end up
38:37
ranked super high in our league settings, which is a banger
38:39
league, no plus minus and that's it.
38:41
It's just exhausting to play against them.
38:45
It's just, you know, that there are certain categories that
38:47
you're gonna lose, which sucks to have to be at that handicap
38:52
going into a week. And every time Cider is on the
38:56
opposing team, I could be ranked responds ahead of the the
38:59
opponent, they're still gonna beat me because they have him.
39:02
It's just I guess he's he's kind of like my Mark Stone, my Roman
39:06
Empire, if you will. Yeah.
39:09
So yeah. I'll bring more into this.
39:13
I love this pic. I I always want most cider.
39:16
Yeah. Yeah, money most side.
39:20
Yeah, exactly. He's just, it's like you said,
39:22
his floor is so high and he hasn't even begun to peak yet.
39:27
He's only got up to go in the points department and the shots
39:30
department. He's not going to go lower than
39:32
he was doing before, and he was still ranked so high despite not
39:35
hitting ten goals. No, I love it's a great pick.
39:38
I have a couple questions for you guys though.
39:41
I could take dry saddle, that's all, and cider and basically
39:45
just have every German player on my team.
39:47
Oh my God, you'd have to change your team name.
39:51
Yeah, like das Auto or something, Yeah.
39:54
That would be a good one actually.
39:57
Yeah, what are your? What are?
39:58
What you got? For your yours.
40:00
Might you rather if he plays 82 games, what's a realistic points
40:04
outcome that you would expect from him?
40:07
55 to 60 and I'm very happy with.
40:10
That if he gets 60, I think he's a tremendous pick.
40:13
Like I think if you draft him, you could even drop him in the
40:16
second round at that at that price.
40:17
Everything is getting 60 points, yeah.
40:21
I don't think that's unreasonable.
40:22
I think he's definitely taking a step up.
40:25
He's going to beat his career high and I don't think that's
40:28
crazy to say. Yeah, I'm there.
40:31
I think it's closer to 55 than he used to 60.
40:34
But listen, we're we're plucking.
40:35
Feathers, hairs there. Yeah, yeah.
40:37
Is that? The same thing.
40:39
Those plucking feathers mean anything.
40:41
No. Honestly, it does not.
40:44
Don't know what you were gonna say, but.
40:46
I think you were trying to say splitting hairs.
40:49
Splitting feathers. There we go because of this.
40:53
What? My my next question is, would
41:00
you rather? Have such a long pause.
41:03
More Insider or Evan Bouchard? That's a good one and I was just
41:07
about to ask it. I OK ignoring the fact that I'm
41:11
taking dryside around 1:00 and even with that it makes it
41:15
spicy. But I I I think because I have
41:18
like the the inkling to take Bouchard if I take dry saddle
41:23
and I'm still thinking neck and neck.
41:24
If I'm thinking objectively, I'd rather have slider.
41:27
I think you gotta take Bouchard oversight or I think the points
41:29
difference is just gonna be huge and the shots difference is huge
41:32
too. If it if it was like, let's say
41:34
Fox was ranked way higher because people were higher on
41:37
him and let's say his point sealing was similar to a
41:39
Bouchard, but he just doesn't have any back cats, then I'd be
41:42
like, yeah, Cider. But Bouchard shoots like could
41:44
get almost four shots a game. So it's hard to give up the
41:48
points and also one of the three back cats that we're talking
41:51
about. So I think I think you go
41:52
Bouchard, but it's not crazy either.
41:54
I think there there should be taken within 5 to 10 pics of
41:57
each other. I I think I think cider has
42:01
Bouchard has to everything needs to go right for him to be better
42:05
than side where I think less things have to go right for
42:07
cider to be better if that makes sense.
42:10
Like Boucher will start ahead but like if one thing goes wrong
42:13
you can easily fall behind. Whereas cider has like a lot of
42:16
outs I feel like. It's just the floor of the
42:19
unreal back. Cats make cider the safer pick.
42:22
It's funny cuz ciders like both the safer pick but also the
42:25
higher upside pick because if he can figure out the points then
42:28
he's just a A. Multicast 60 points and Butcher
42:31
gets 70. Like, no, Bouchard's easily
42:33
getting point per game. That's not a question to me.
42:37
I think Bouchard's gonna get, let's say, 90 points and we put
42:40
cider. I don't think that's
42:42
unreasonable for Bouchard. If we're all predicting of the
42:44
results back then. I think it's crazy to think
42:47
Bouchard is getting less than 35 with 3.5 plus shots per game.
42:53
3.5 to four shots a game. That's why I feel like you gotta
42:56
go chart over Cider. I'm in the same boat.
42:59
I just wanted to see, I think it's definitely like we're
43:01
mixing archetypes here as well. So it's like cross positions and
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cross value. Like, how do we really feel
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about these players completely on the board?
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I think one important thing to touch on before we go to the
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last pick is I'm team Cider over weaker at this point.
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Seeing how good Perec has been in preseason, I feel like, you
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know, my worries about weaker losing PB one are significantly
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higher now. And if he's not on the P1, he's
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still a good value, but I'm not drafting him in a third or
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fourth round. Yeah, I was gonna ask exactly
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the same archetype. It's close.
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It's definitely cider over weaker because cider has no
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competition. Weaker is better at the back
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cats than slider is, yeah, but again, you're splitting feathers
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there. Yeah.
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Well said. Well said.
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Yeah, alright, let's move on to Kevin's last pick.
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All right, my last pick will be a surprise to no one if you've
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been listening, but it is Jason Robertson of the Dallas Stars.
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There. Yeah.
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Is there something lower than ice?
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This is the vendetta we were he was talking.
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About we're just like, like Josh and I are just, you know, kind
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of peaceful with our yeah, you know what?
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We don't really like that. Cause I was like I hate this
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guy. OK.
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I do to you, Kevin. Don't hate Jason Robertson, but
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I definitely think he is slightly overhyped.
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I also there's a reason why he's still unsigned long term from
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the Dallas Stars. I think we saw him hit over 100
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points a few years ago and us all expect that that to be kind
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of the norm. But it's really more of a point
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per game player, which that's a significant difference from over
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100 points, right? People, I think are still hoping
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for that. 100 points seem to be in his bag, and I think that's
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why he's still so high in a lot of draft rankings.
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But he's not an elite shooter, he's not an elite points getter,
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and he's not elite on the power play either.
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So why is he like, you know, the prototypical third round pick in
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a lot of drafts? I just don't see it.
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I think he's my ice pick because I see him being below a point
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per game player. He's gonna hover around 808082.
45:07
If he plays a full season he'll get you 2.5 shots.
45:10
The power play, he'll get you .25 point 3 at the Max, but
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there's just so many players that I'd rather have, especially
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on Dallas where there's so many mouths to feed and so many
45:21
quality players. I would not be surprised if he
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ends up getting bumped off for whatever reason.
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There's guys that are behind him that are ready to take a spot if
45:28
things don't go well. Now I will say last season there
45:32
was the off season injury and stuff like that that you know
45:35
hinders him going into the season.
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When you missed preseason or training camp, it really does
45:39
affect your performance at the start of the year and he was a
45:43
bite candidate for a large portion of last year.
45:45
Let's not forget he was one of the biggest fantasy busts to
45:48
start the season and then he he made-up for it in the averages
45:51
with what he did in the second-half.
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But I think his, you know, consistent season production is
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going to be somewhere in the middle.
45:58
And I just don't see that being somebody that has a super high
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ceiling. I feel you're drafting him at
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his ceiling and there's only room to go down.
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That's how I feel about Jason Robertson.
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Wow, the vendetta is real. He hates this guy, OK, Yeah, he
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said. He doesn't.
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Yeah, so we'll, we'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that
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one. But no, honestly, I, I fully get
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where you're coming from with all this.
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I think if you're taking him third round, I agree that's,
46:25
that's too high. It's just the surrounding people
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available in that round are so much more secure in what they're
46:31
getting that it kind of like Robertson ceiling is what you're
46:35
sure another third rounder is going to get.
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So I fully agree with that. I will say though, that it's
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possible he gets underrated in some leagues because of how bad
46:41
he was last year. I definitely.
46:43
Falls too. Far, I don't think he's not
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gonna be as bad as last year. I think he's gonna bounce back.
46:47
I think he's gonna be a great bounce back candidate.
46:48
I don't think he's gonna be 100 point guy like you said.
46:50
I think that that was definitely, definitely a bit of
46:53
flash in the pan. But but yeah, so pretty much if
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you take him at ADP, I agree he's nice.
46:58
If he drops around or two, then I think he could be a steal of
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the draft. So it's all about where you take
47:03
him. Yeah, I mean 80 game, 80 points
47:06
in 82 games the past two seasons, right?
47:08
It's a big fall off from the 109 and almost like, you know, 30
47:11
points as massive now with Rantanen being there.
47:16
This team should score the most goals this year.
47:20
Most schools is usually a great thing for fantasy, except for
47:25
when you're this loaded up at offence that if you score four
47:29
goals a game, you're lucky if like with this, how many is
47:35
going to get. He's not going to get 1 1/2
47:37
points per game. That's probably too much for
47:39
him. Even if he points per game, I
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don't think anybody wait like three guys.
47:44
That's what I'm saying, like it's way too much for him, so
47:47
maybe he'll get one. I agree that he's ice where he's
47:52
going. If he falls it's cool.
47:55
But I mean, I'm higher on Nagis. I have, I have the basic Yahoo
48:01
ADP in front of my eyes right now and I'm scrolling down.
48:05
I'm looking at names that are like 20 spots later that I'd
48:07
rather have Stop, stop me when you when you'd rather Jason
48:12
Robertson over the name. I'm about to say, OK, I'm going
48:15
1 by 1. The players behind them in ADP?
48:18
Mad Baldy Tage Thompson? Yes, for Brat, you'd rather
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Robertson over Tage Thompson. Sorry.
48:27
I mean, I'd rather Thomson over Robinson.
48:28
Sorry. Yeah.
48:29
This is crazy. Yeah, I missed the assignment.
48:32
Keep going. Keep going.
48:33
Yes, for Rat Clean Keller, Ovechkin, Stutzel, Celebrity
48:40
natures. I'm not even doing the cross
48:42
position and stuff. I'm not going defenseman or or
48:44
or the pure sees right now. Natus is there.
48:48
Tempe, Bidard Eagle No. Yeah, honestly.
48:58
Let me go to the next page. Yeah, no, you're proving your
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point really well. I mean, that's what we said,
49:02
right? It's for, for the guys going
49:04
around him. I I wouldn't take him there.
49:07
He's definitely a nice for for where his ADP is.
49:09
So that, yeah, the names that I was saying like you're getting
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30 pics later in ADP pretty much.
49:15
That's why I feel like he's getting priced in so high for
49:18
what he's done in the past that people are projecting for it to
49:21
happen. Either you let someone else pick
49:23
him too early in the draft or he drops around like 2 rounds and
49:25
then you grab him and you're happy with where you got him.
49:29
There might be more payouts for me, but yeah.
49:32
Basically, would you rather Demidov or Robertson, Robert?
49:35
Robertson. Now we're looking pretty far
49:38
down. Yeah, yeah.
49:40
They're working or. Robert Feathers to pluck Larkin.
49:43
Yeah, OK, Jordan Kairu, now we're going.
49:47
No, I take Robertson. Over.
49:48
OK, Batherson. Not a Robertson over Batherson.
49:53
OK to bring kit. Yeah, still Robertson.
49:57
Yeah, that's, that's the kind of range we're going and that's
49:59
like 72 and I started to pick 30 some 30.
50:01
Four and there's no way he's falling in there cuz not
50:03
everyone listens to anger management.
50:06
I was checking out they should. Yeah, I would rather have White
50:09
Johnson. I don't know if that's a hot
50:10
take. No, no, that's I'd rather have.
50:12
Johnston. Me too, me too.
50:15
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