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- 0:12Oh yeah, we are live here on the Alex Scratt podcast Network, just
- 0:16a few minutes before my next guest go on stage at the Sene Center tonight
- 0:21here in New York City. I've got brothers Pete de Luke Junior and Dino
- 0:25de Luke of the founders and the guys behind Sled. And if you're a
- 0:29Sled fan, tune in right now because I got him in studio with me.
- 0:32Guys, thanks for joining my podcast. We're honored, Alex. You
- 0:36rock as a producer, and it's just an honor to be back home in
- 0:39New York and to be able to share the stage with you on the on
- 0:43the radio. Man, thanks for having us. Man. Yeah, it's
- 0:46good to be back home and have a New York brother interviewing us and doing
- 0:50a podcast. It's our privilege and our pleasure. Thank you so much.
- 0:53When I heard you guys were in New York based, I said, I
- 0:55got to get them on. We got got New York artists on the show,
- 0:57and you guys are started kicking that off. So tell me are in
- 1:00New York and what the tour has been like. Tour has been amazing.
- 1:06Chaz West, who was the former singer and Foreigner and Jason Bonham's band and
- 1:11Lynch Mob invited us out. We were doing a show in San Diego in
- 1:15April of twenty twenty three. He's like, I really want you guys to
- 1:19be part of our tour, and we're like, well, I don't know
- 1:22if you know this, but Pete and I both grew up in Westchester.
- 1:25We're both New York natives and he's from Jersey. So it's like we all
- 1:29get to come home and do what we love, share the rock and stage
- 1:33with the world and all our friends on the East Coast. So well,
- 1:36on that note, how did you guys get from the East Coast to the
- 1:38West Coast? Tell us your journey, Well it it starts with our dad
- 1:42and mom. Dad taught music in Hasty's on Hudson High School journlemans for twenty
- 1:47five years. We also lived in the city as kids too. Dad retired
- 1:51was out there in the late forties in the Navy, and they used to
- 1:53always tell me, as the edge closer and closer to retirement, we're heading
- 1:57to San Diego. Your mom and I'd love it if you guys came with
- 2:00us. If you want to stay in New York, we understand, and
- 2:04we went that way. And Mom had been nil for a long time,
- 2:07and unfortunately she only used to lived a few more years in California and then
- 2:10she sadly passed away from Crohn's disease. And but you know, we were
- 2:15at some point maybe thinking about coming back to New York, but we knew
- 2:19that Dad was out there and we couldn't leave him alone. And you know,
- 2:22we, being active musicians, pursued a finding bands and other musicians are
- 2:27playing, and we were in a couple of different bands. We form Sled
- 2:30in early nineteen ninety five and played our first show on Saint Patrick's Day nineteen
- 2:35I at a former club in San Diego which was a big, big club
- 2:38in those days, called the Bacchanal. And we've had the group now twenty
- 2:42eight years. This is our fifth album. This is our fifth tour.
- 2:45We've done four previous national tours. Actually we need one more. We did
- 2:47one with the Bullboys in two thousand and three. So you know, music
- 2:53is our life. Our father played with everybody from Buddy Rich, mel Lewis,
- 2:58I mean, Stan Gatt, Tony, Frank Sinatra and Julie. We
- 3:04grew up in show business, and it was evident I think at a young
- 3:07age that music was going to be our calling. Well, I saw that
- 3:10you have pictures with Jimmy Page of you know, led Zeppelin and then Trans
- 3:15Siberia Orchestra. So what were your inspirations all to start with you? Pete
- 3:17de Luke Junior. Well, as a keyboard player, my father is my
- 3:21first and foremost inspiration when it comes to music, even though he's not a
- 3:24keyboard or piano player. Dad gave me the talent and the ability and to
- 3:29drive and the know how from the keyboard department. Greg Alman, John Lord,
- 3:34Jan Hammer, Raymond Zeric, Billy Powell, taz Di Gregorio the one
- 3:43of the greatest keyboard players I ever lived. From the ban Yes, I
- 3:46mean, I mean Rick Wakeman and guys like that. You know, when
- 3:50I was starting to play keyboard at around age fifteen or sixteen, these are
- 3:54the cats, you know. Jon Hammer the live album with Jeppek that really
- 3:59inspired me to move me and I had a lot of inspiration on the jazz
- 4:01side. I got to see Bill Evans when I was eight year eight years
- 4:04old at a club here in New York City called It was a village.
- 4:13And I had a very close friend of mine who inspired me to play with
- 4:15the drugs. His name is Terry Lavitz. Everybody knew Miss t Labatts.
- 4:17I love Terry May rest in peace. He was such a good guy.
- 4:20We were friends, and I've had the honor of becoming friends with guys like
- 4:25him and Derek Shrining, and shout out to Derek. I love Derek and
- 4:28God right now in rock and roll, in the world of keyboards, I
- 4:30don't know if there's anybody more talented or gifted than Derek Shrining. He is
- 4:33a virtuoso and man, he's a very inspiring guy. So these are guys
- 4:40that I've always looked up to, still continue to look up to strive for
- 4:44excellence like they do. And and one more, a good friend of mine
- 4:47from Irvington, New York, Parker Riley, who is a brother who's helped
- 4:51us so much. And thanks Parker. We love you for that, Yeah,
- 4:55we do, man. And you know, we have a lot of
- 4:57really good friends here in New York, in the city and the Bronx and
- 5:00Manhattan and Westchester County and on Long Island and our family in Upstate New York
- 5:05and Schenectady. The Luke family and many of my cousins up there, and
- 5:09we're gonna actually stop in and see them in a couple of days. So
- 5:12this is where it all came for me and my brother. Dino's on the
- 5:15same railroad track with maybe a track number two. So you know, well,
- 5:19I mean, Alex, did you have any particular questions you wanted to
- 5:23ask? So Dina, how about you because you're the drummer of the band
- 5:26and you've you've been a big part of this. But as drummer, Buddy
- 5:29Rich, anybody comes to my own. Here's a great story. June nineteen
- 5:33seventy four, my dad was having a jazz benefit for the Jazz Band and
- 5:39Hastings on Hudson, New York, and the drummer at the time was a
- 5:42kid named Clint Degannon, who is now New York's number one or number two
- 5:46session player. He's played did the Carol King Show. Recently, he's playing
- 5:51with Manhattan Transfer currently love the Manhattan Transfer. I mean, he's done it
- 5:56all. Stevie Wonder, Jeff Lorberfuse. He plays with the guys from The
- 6:02Letterman Show, Will Lee, Paul Schaeffer, and Osnoy, and you know,
- 6:09Clinton was one of my first teachers and one of my major influences.
- 6:13But in June nineteen seventy four, my dad had Buddy Rich come up to
- 6:16the high school and do the benefit Gene Kruper had been doing him previously he
- 6:20died. So I got bit by the bug. I saw the most incredible,
- 6:25greatest of all time drummer, Buddy Rich, got to meet him,
- 6:30got to see him play, got to know his daughter. She sang that
- 6:32day, Kathy Rich, who still has the big band going. She's leading
- 6:36the Buddy Rich Big Band to this day with her boyfriend Greg Potter. And
- 6:43so that's how I got into drumming. Wow. Well for the both of
- 6:46you, obviously you're both brothers, so you both had this musical bug from
- 6:49the beginning. But when you decided to form a band, what was it
- 6:53like getting people, you know, to support, both investors and even people
- 6:57to join the band as well. You know, we had had a big
- 7:00cover band in San Diego since nineteen eighty seven, and we decided you can
- 7:05only go so of oar playing cover music. If we're going to really take
- 7:09this to another level, we have to write songs and make records, and
- 7:13that's what we did. Al Petrelli from Trans Siberian Orchestra, also of the
- 7:16band Sabotage Mega Death, Alice Cooper's band, decided to get involved with us.
- 7:23We were on a tour with Bloyister Colt and he was filling in for
- 7:26one of the guys and he liked me and Pete so much and the music.
- 7:30He's like, let me take you guys to Paramount in Los Angeles and
- 7:33work on this record with us. And so Al, who's now the musical
- 7:38director of the Trans Siberian Orchestra, put us in a studio in Los Angeles
- 7:43and it was on the first Sled record, which was called Dopamine. Well,
- 7:46from that point on it was just about we started working with Great White,
- 7:50which we're on tour with Jack Russell this week, and Mark Kendall,
- 7:55his guitar player at the time, decided to get involved with us. He
- 7:59produced our second record and he managed our band for four years. Pete,
- 8:03you told me there are three different genres that sort of intersect in your in
- 8:07your music. Can you talk about that for a moment. Yeah, So,
- 8:09well, I'm really primarily a rock keyboard player, and even though I
- 8:13was inspired inspired by guys like Bill Evans and I mean some of the jazz
- 8:18greats. I had a chance to meet and see people like Billy Taylor and
- 8:24Bill Evans as a kid growing up. And why I'm really not a jazz
- 8:26player. I'm I'm a huge fan of jazz, especially beepop. I'm not
- 8:31really that type of player. So getting back more and more into the rock
- 8:35roots, I just you know, I just heard a guy like Greg Alman,
- 8:39who was probably my biggest influence. You know, the live of the
- 8:43film Moreast album was such a gem for me, and and listening to him
- 8:46play hamm and organ and sing and just god, man, he really moved
- 8:50me so much. And a guy like Billy Powell on the piano side,
- 8:52playing hockey talk, ragtime southern rock piano, a huge Southern rock and roll
- 8:58fan, you know, two of those guys. And then I got into
- 9:00Ray man Z Eric Man, and you know, what can you say about
- 9:03the Doors and god, I've been just a huge stores fan and and guys
- 9:07like those guys like that, And then you know, as I got more
- 9:09into heavier and hard rock, John Lord was my total influence. And then
- 9:13I have a fusion side to me with guys like t Labbatt and Jon Hammer,
- 9:18who you know and only did Miami Vice, but he did a live
- 9:20album with Jeff Beck in nineteen seventy six, and most, you know,
- 9:24most really schooled, well educated rock musicians who loved guys like Jeff Beck loved
- 9:31that album, cherished that album with songs like Freeway Jam and Blue End,
- 9:35and you know, he's making a monophonic synthesizer sound like a guitar, and
- 9:39that really turned me on. Man. I was like, how is he
- 9:41doing that? I've got to find some way to be able to do something
- 9:45like that. You know, I could never put myself in the category of
- 9:48these types of guys, but they were such large and big influences on me.
- 9:52Man. You know, I've always aspired to try maybe a conglomerate of
- 9:58all the two have combined into me. You know, and I am who
- 10:01I am. I'm a proficient song I wrote to a lot of songwriting,
- 10:03I produced, and I range and at all elements of music move me,
- 10:09man, And you know, I've just was given a talent and a great
- 10:13year and and a keen insight to be able to do things like and you
- 10:16both write songs for these different albums. So did did it start in the
- 10:18band knowing that, yeah, we can't just be a coveran we have to
- 10:22write. Did that both wake up your writing gene or have you been writing
- 10:24songs for a long time even before? It's like well, actually, funnily
- 10:28enough, our other band, Nemesis, which we've started in like eighty seven
- 10:33nineteen said had some honorous success with its own set of original music, and
- 10:37we were playing at places like FM Station Hollywood and Reno Avaut and we I
- 10:43you know, I've been writing for I don't know, probably thirty thirty five
- 10:46years, man, and I wrote a bunch of stuff and music for that
- 10:50band, and I had some co writers and Paul mcclennon and people like that,
- 10:52and you know TJ. Bryn Jack and You're Folk and Drew Folk and
- 10:56yeah, I mean for some reason or other, you know, for me,
- 11:01I don't know, how do you get the talent to write music?
- 11:05I always tell people it's like a little like a little record player spinning in
- 11:09your head. The needle comes down and a melody comes into your head,
- 11:11and I finally how to translate or transport that melody in through my hands?
- 11:16And that's how I write. So I started with a band up in Westchester
- 11:22as a kid. I was fourteen years old and I played with guys like
- 11:26Garrett the k Parker, Riley Drew Foll, Chris Costello, Vinita Toro,
- 11:31and then I got into rock drumming kind of after I was a jazz player.
- 11:37John Bonham, Joey Kramer from Aerosmith, those were my twos biggest influences.
- 11:43It was something to me which it became contagious, and I played all
- 11:48over Manhattan at the Underground, I played at the Rising Sun, I played
- 11:52the fore and Aft and our band did real well, and that band was
- 11:54called Up in Arms. It consisted of Barry Harrison, Rob Mendola, Drew
- 11:58full Gareth de Kay and myself. Mike Grogan was part of that band,
- 12:03a guitar player, great player, and to this day I still keep in
- 12:07touch with a lot of those band members and they've all been invited to the
- 12:11show tonight at the Sheen Center at the Loretto Theater. And that's Ian Pace.
- 12:16Another big influence to me is a rock drummer and all the different bebop
- 12:22drummers, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, but my favorite drummer right now was
- 12:28Jeff Beck's drummer Vinni Kya Luda and Jeff Beck for the last thirty years of
- 12:33my life has been my favorite musician, guitar player, just an extraordinary player.
- 12:37Steve I another guy I've always cherished and we've been grateful enough to be
- 12:43able to do what we do. Man. So it's been nothing but good
- 12:46stuff, you know, absolutely. Well. You know you mentioned you have
- 12:50a radio show as well, and that's why you're in the city. So
- 12:52tell about the radio show in San Diego. Yeah. So during the pandemic,
- 12:56Carrie Rothman, who's also the co founder of SLED Swell Radio r F
- 13:01you A along with Gin and I. You know, Carrie has some investors
- 13:03contact him in reference to doing something with the band while it was a lot
- 13:07of downtime, and they said, hey, would you guys be interested in
- 13:11like going on here and doing a radio show, And we were, well,
- 13:13we've never done anything like that, but you know, and something bad
- 13:18comes something good, and we just came up with Swell Radio r IF you
- 13:20And we have our friend Steve O'Rourke or resident Musicologist. He goes by the
- 13:24name of Ozzy, hence the name Swell Radio r F you A and Oz
- 13:28is a friend of ours from high school back into Westchester County days and he
- 13:31does the show normally only he was available today, but you know, we
- 13:35just started doing it out of our love for music, and we share headlining
- 13:41names and when we share up and coming artists. You know, it's an
- 13:43hour show from seven to eight pm Pacific day at a time ten to eleven
- 13:48on the East coast here and it airs every Saturday evening. And what we're
- 13:52really doing is we're just trying to get Really it's radio for unique artists,
- 13:56right, So what is unique? How does that that covers a wide and
- 14:00boundary of a different type musicianship. But we feature all different style of music
- 14:03as well, and a lot of times it's bands you never would never have
- 14:07heard of them, and we're giving them a chance to be heard on the
- 14:09radio. And where can you guys be heard? Just give us this.
- 14:13So it's a SAM eleven seventy FM, ninety six to one on the answer
- 14:16casey BQ, San Diego on Swell Radio and then all it's www all one
- 14:22where Swell Radio RFUA dot com. It airs online every every Saturday evening as
- 14:28well as seven to eight Pacific ten to eleven Eastern Standard or daylight time.
- 14:33So you know, we've had the show. We're going into our fourth year,
- 14:37and man, we're just having fun. Right it's talking music and sharing
- 14:43stories and giving exposing people and exposing people some very big names in the business
- 14:50and giving them a rundown of what they're doing right now. You know,
- 14:54the pandemic was a horrible thing in so many ways, but in some aspects
- 14:58it might have been a really beautiful thing because it turned the ship and it
- 15:03gave so many of us in the industry other opportunities besides just playing our instruments,
- 15:07hence our radio show. Do you know what you were gonna add?
- 15:11You know, it's a blessing and an honor to be able to continue spreading
- 15:16the gospel of music. If we're not on stage doing it and putting records
- 15:20out, we're doing it on the radio and exposing great new artists. And
- 15:24I mean, there's this something really special about that. Well, you guys
- 15:28seem like teachers, so I feel like you latch onto that teaching and that
- 15:31up you know, to the up and coming artists, teaching them how to
- 15:33break in, right, that's kind of my other passion in life has been
- 15:37martial arts. So you know, I've had a really good, really good
- 15:45life, and I teach the art at Tang Sudeau, which is a Korean
- 15:52style of martial arts karate, and you know, it's been a blessing for
- 15:56me. It's just been a blessing. And it's one of those things where
- 16:03a lot of what I take from in life is through my experience in music
- 16:07and my experience in martial arts. And I had open heart surgery. I
- 16:12was on stage five weeks later, and everybody thought I was out of my
- 16:17mind. But because of all my martial arts training and the strength of my
- 16:21mind, everybody saying, oh, we're going to cancel the show, We're
- 16:23going to cancel the show. Well we didn't cancel the show. Old Dino
- 16:27de Luke strolled out on that stage five weeks later, and I played that
- 16:32show and I was back in black and I never looked back. And that's
- 16:36what it's all about, man, having that passion to continue making music,
- 16:40being an artist and going forth in life. Man, all right, one
- 16:45last thing before I let you go for sound check. Today, it's Halloween
- 16:48week. It is not one of the best times to tour because I think
- 16:52rockers and heavy rockers and you know metal they all love the Halloween time to
- 16:56go to a concert. So what's that like. Every it is your first
- 16:59Halloween tour, you've been on tour for Halloween before, Well, you know,
- 17:02a second Halloween is as a big party night, right for not just
- 17:07the kids running around getting candy, but for a lot of kids who never
- 17:10grew up. And I guess guys with long hair that play heavy metal rock.
- 17:12We're all hard rock and roll. We're included in that category. And
- 17:17the people that are in our world, even the people who are the nomin
- 17:19to follow our music and our musical group and stuff like that. Halloween's the
- 17:22second biggest party in that next to New Year's Eve. Right. Well,
- 17:26I'll tell you this much. The first time we actually really ever played with
- 17:30Sled on Halloween was at Seneca Niagara Casino when Niagara Falls with the amazing Tesla
- 17:37great band, and it was a really good show. But you know,
- 17:41being able to play in Manhattan where our roots are, and be able to
- 17:45do what we're doing tonight, I'm really looking forward to rock in New York
- 17:48City tonight, man, and but an honor and a pleasure. Where can
- 17:52we get tickets? Where can people buy tickets tonight at the Sheene Center.
- 17:55It's Justchenecenter dot com s a teen leaguer street. Yep, It's are on
- 18:00sale right on their website. And also I would just want to add both
- 18:03Dino and I being native New Yorkers coming home the falls the most beautiful time
- 18:08and the most beautiful season in New York State and New York City, so
- 18:12it makes it extra special. Actually be here, we haven't been in New
- 18:15York on Halloween in thirty nine years. That's not true. Not in the
- 18:18city. Oh you're right. We played in Niagara Fall Team, so that's
- 18:22technically being in New York state. But I'll say this much. We're at
- 18:26the Loretto Theater. The show starts at seven sharp tonight. It's at the
- 18:32Sheene Center, eighteen Bleaker Street. You don't want to miss the show.
- 18:36And remember our motto, don't forget to rock. All right? Well,
- 18:41that was sled. That was Dino and Pete de Luke Junior and Pete.
- 18:45I love the way you took out your segments to each second. Can you
- 18:48take me out of here? One of your songs and your signature to break.
- 18:52I love the way you do that on radio. We've gotta go to
- 18:55a commercial break. You're listen to One Leg Up with my brother Alex Garrett
- 19:00in New York City. Will be right back after station identification