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AWARDS SHOW: Recapping the good, bad & ugly of another lost Angels season · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Mike DiGiovanna, former LA Times baseball writer and host of
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Speaker 1: the show, joined by my regular co-host, Mark Trumbo, the
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Speaker 1: former Angel Slugger, and our regular HT contributor and baseball
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Speaker 1: writer extraordinaire, Sam Blum of The Athletic. Guys, welcome. How
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Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? We've got an interesting one today.
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Speaker 1: We're going to mix it up a little. You guys
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Speaker 1: fired up?
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: All right. For our viewers, it's pretty early on Tuesday morning,
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Speaker 1: but we're going to get this thing done. So we
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Speaker 1: figured we'd do a little fun episode here. The Angels
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Speaker 1: entered their last road trip with a 60-96 record. They're
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Speaker 1: in last place in the American League West. Still have
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Speaker 1: to go 3-3 in their final six games to avoid
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Speaker 1: being the first 100-loss team in franchise history. But we're
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Speaker 1: going to do a year-end show, a year-end awards show.
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Speaker 1: Eight categories, a few that are complimentary, a couple that aren't.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to pretend this season is something that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't. So without further ado. Mark really wanted that
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Speaker 1: in there. Let's start with Team MVP. Most valuable player.
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Speaker 1: Who actually carried this team? The guy who played every day,
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Speaker 1: who produced when almost nobody else did. The pitcher who
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Speaker 1: finally looked like the version we've been waiting for. MVP
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Speaker 1: in a last place club is a little strange of
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Speaker 1: an award, but are we rewarding volume peak or he
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Speaker 1: was the only guy who didn't make you change a channel? Sam,
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Speaker 1: what do you got?
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Speaker 4: Um, you know, there's a couple of kind of different
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Speaker 4: routes you can go with this. For me, the anchor
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Speaker 4: of this whole team was, was starting pitching, uh, for
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Speaker 4: most of the season, especially, or really, I guess mostly
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Speaker 4: the last couple of months, but, um, I'm going to
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Speaker 4: go with three Detmers. I just, I just feel like,
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Speaker 4: you know, not only did, did he kind of carry
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Speaker 4: the pitching staff throughout the whole season really? But, you know, he's,
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Speaker 4: he's just kind of put himself in such an, I think,
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Speaker 4: positive career trajectory that he's deserving of this award. You know,
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Speaker 4: he could go with someone like Zach Netto or even
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Speaker 4: Mike Trout, you know, guys who had solid seasons and, and,
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Speaker 4: you know, were kind of the backbones of a very
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Speaker 4: weak offense at times throughout the year. But I just think,
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Speaker 4: when you look at the strengths of this team and
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Speaker 4: it was starting pitching and Reed Detmers was kind of
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Speaker 4: the guy that set the tone. So to me, that
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Speaker 4: was the most valuable element of this, you know, awful
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Speaker 4: downtrodden club and you know, good for him. I think
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Speaker 4: he's got a, you know, a future as a big
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Speaker 4: league ace, whether it be with the angels or wherever
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Speaker 4: kind of for the rest of his career, hopefully.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good pick. I am going to go the position player,
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Speaker 1: Zach Nettle, the shortstop. I even want to make a
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Speaker 1: vote MVP. I always, I remember the year when Pedro
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Speaker 1: Martinez was right there. I forget, 99 or something. And
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Speaker 1: I just find it hard to go with a pitcher
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Speaker 1: over a guy who plays every day. And Zach Netto,
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Speaker 1: we know he enters the final week of the season
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Speaker 1: with 209 strikeouts. That's third most in baseball. And yes,
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Speaker 1: his focus and effort seemed to waver at times. We
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Speaker 1: got on him a little bit for pouting early in
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Speaker 1: the season. But the shortstop also led the team with
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Speaker 1: 26 homers, 29 doubles. 142 hits, 98 runs, 21 stolen bases.
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Speaker 1: And the thing for me is he posted, you know,
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Speaker 1: he missed the last few weeks of last season with
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Speaker 1: that hand injury. But he's already played a team-high 151
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Speaker 1: games this season. And his defense, at least according to Fangraphs,
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Speaker 1: did improve in the second half. Remember, I think he
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Speaker 1: was leading the major leagues in errors about halfway through.
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Speaker 1: And he's got nine defensive runs saved, according to Fangraphs.
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Speaker 1: Still not crazy about him in the leadoff spot. We'll
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Speaker 1: see how that changes if it changes next year. But
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Speaker 1: I'm going with Zach Netto. This is where you ask me?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Your turn, Mark.
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Speaker 5: You did, and you stole one of my arguments. Team MVP.
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Speaker 5: I think, like you said, on.
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Speaker 3: A team that's won 60 bowl games, and we'll see
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Speaker 3: where they finish, who has been the brightest spot?
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Speaker 5: This might be surprising.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a redundant answer for this one,
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Speaker 3: but I also chose Zach Netto. 151 games played, he posted.
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Speaker 3: More importantly, I saw improvements in his attitude and his defense.
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Speaker 3: And I think when you're looking at a young team,
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Speaker 3: And evaluating what is going on, you want to see improvements.
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Speaker 3: And he was one guy that absolutely improved. There were
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Speaker 3: some others, too. But they're going to need him. Analytically,
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Speaker 3: highest war on the team. That is somewhat by default.
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Speaker 3: There are some areas to clean up, too. But this
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Speaker 3: season could have been something very unflattering, I think, if
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Speaker 3: his attitude had continued for longer than it did. But
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Speaker 3: he was able to get his act together. And, uh,
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Speaker 3: another strong showing. And I think that he, when I
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Speaker 3: was his all around game, he steals, uh, bases, which really,
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Speaker 3: you know, brings the overall package to a much more
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Speaker 3: attractive level.
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Speaker 1: Um, and I think that when.
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Speaker 3: You look at this and a hundred, like I said earlier,
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Speaker 3: played the most games he posted, uh, took the field,
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Speaker 3: even when they were long out of it and they
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Speaker 3: were out of it ago.
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Speaker 5: So it's my choice here.
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Speaker 1: And, uh, I understand you might have a little honorable
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Speaker 1: mention candidate in this category, Mark.
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Speaker 5: I was considering.
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Speaker 3: I stuck to a player, but I've got to say
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Speaker 3: Molly Jolly probably, as far as organizationally, deserves some praise
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Speaker 3: for making a change and making a change in the
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Speaker 3: general manager position. I'm not sure if it was entirely her.
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Speaker 3: For right now, I'm under the assumption that it was,
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Speaker 3: and it needed to be done, and the team is
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Speaker 3: better because of it.
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Speaker 1: Agreed. Next category, most improved. This is somebody who took
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Speaker 1: a real step forward. Command, pitch mix, approach, health for
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Speaker 1: a pitcher, something that clicked that wasn't there before. And
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Speaker 1: is this jump big enough that it sort of changes
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Speaker 1: how you look at him next spring? I'll start with
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Speaker 1: that one. And I'm going with Reed Detmers as most
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Speaker 1: improved because this guy, I remember in 2024, struggled so
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Speaker 1: much as a starter. He went four and nine.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't.
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Speaker 1: I was surprised when I went back and looked at this.
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Speaker 1: 4-9 with a 6-7-0 ERA in 17 games that year.
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Speaker 1: Struggled so bad, they moved him to the bullpen. Had
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Speaker 1: a great year in 2025 as a reliever. 5-3 with
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Speaker 1: a 3.96 in 61 games. And to me, he really
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Speaker 1: carried that mentality back into the rotation this year. He
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Speaker 1: goes into the last week with a 6-8 record, 3.47
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Speaker 1: ERA in 31 starts, 204 strikeouts. That hasn't been done
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Speaker 1: in a while. Only 46 walks in 179 innings, and
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Speaker 1: he's one of the best pitchers in baseball since the
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Speaker 1: All-Star break. 3-2, the 2-0-5 ERA in 12 starts since then.
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Speaker 1: I just think his, and he maintained his stuff, his command,
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Speaker 1: his velocity. This guy was a horse. I don't think
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Speaker 1: he missed one start. I don't even know that he
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Speaker 1: was even pushed back a few days to give him
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Speaker 1: extra rest. So kudos to Reed for a great bounce
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Speaker 1: back year. Well, I guess it wasn't. A bounce-back year
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Speaker 1: from 2024 as a starting pitcher. What do you got, Mark?
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Speaker 5: I have Ryan Johnson. I wish we had a nickname
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Speaker 5: for him.
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Speaker 1: The big train.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll hear one sooner than later on the broadcast.
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Speaker 3: But this is a guy that we've chronicled what was
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Speaker 3: going on with Ryan Johnson, what was going on with
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Speaker 3: his development.
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Speaker 1: Why is he.
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Speaker 5: Pitching in tri-cities?
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Speaker 1: Where did he go?
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Speaker 3: First round pick, no time in the minor leagues, pitching
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Speaker 3: in the major leagues, didn't go well. Made the team
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Speaker 3: out of spring this year, didn't go well. The velocity
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Speaker 3: wasn't there and we didn't have too many answers. But
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Speaker 3: to his credit and to the credit of the Angels,
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Speaker 3: this guy easily can be penciled in as a starter
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Speaker 3: next season, at least in my opinion. His last 15 starts,
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Speaker 3: he's got a 3-9-3 He's given him many outings where
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Speaker 3: he's gone six innings, six innings or more. So I
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Speaker 3: think that when I was looking at this category, while
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Speaker 3: I understand Reed, I think Reed's always had the talent.
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Speaker 3: He's put it together. I think Johnson just, to me,
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Speaker 3: stood out the most for someone who's improved and contributed
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Speaker 3: to the club.
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Speaker 1: All right. I like it. Sam, what do you got?
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Speaker 4: I'll go with Walbert Urania, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 4: one of the reasons for this, I mean, Urania, when
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Speaker 4: he started the season, I didn't think he should have
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Speaker 4: even been in the big leagues. And the reason for
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Speaker 4: that was, I mean, his numbers in minor leagues weren't
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Speaker 4: particularly like good. I mean, this is a guy that
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Speaker 4: has essentially exploded on the scene in the span of
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Speaker 4: one big league season. I think you watch him pitch
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Speaker 4: and you feel like this guy, everything he's doing is
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Speaker 4: real and sustainable. He's done it for an entire year
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Speaker 4: at this point. But if you look back to, you know,
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Speaker 4: his numbers in double A, triple A, I mean, he's, One,
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Speaker 4: he's moved up quickly, but he's been around a high fours,
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Speaker 4: low fives ERA in minor leagues throughout his brief time there.
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Speaker 4: And so I think it's interesting that he's able to
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Speaker 4: come to the big leagues and just look so polished,
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Speaker 4: be someone that essentially is going to give you a
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Speaker 4: one or zero run, earn run outing every time. He's legit.
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Speaker 4: One of the reasons why I think you have some
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Speaker 4: building blocks here, you have two really good ace level
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Speaker 4: starting pitchers. in your rotation. And I agree with, with
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Speaker 4: Mark on Ryan Johnson, where there's, you know, there's, there's
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Speaker 4: some building blocks of potential there. I don't know if
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Speaker 4: it's the same level, but it's, you know, it's, it's,
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Speaker 4: it's close to a pretty good rotation right now. So
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Speaker 4: the angels have someone to work with.
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Speaker 1: Because it's going to do some damage. All right. Best pitcher.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear there's only two guys in this category.
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Speaker 1: Although I'll give credit to... ryan johnson he did really
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Speaker 1: come on in that in the last few months of
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Speaker 1: the season so this we want to keep it sort
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Speaker 1: of separate from the most improved conversation and even mvp
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Speaker 1: who actually gave you the best chance to win on
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Speaker 1: a given night inning stuff maybe a strong second half
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Speaker 1: run stuff versus results one arm is electric another actually
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Speaker 1: threw strikes for four months which one are we valuing
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Speaker 1: mark trumba we're going to start with you on this.
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Speaker 3: One I'm going to go with Reid Detmers on this one,
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Speaker 3: and I don't think I need to explain all that
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Speaker 3: much further. He was the best pitcher on a team
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Speaker 3: that has some good pitching, but Reid's numbers, and I'm
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Speaker 3: sure they're right there in front of you. Well, you
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Speaker 3: already read them off, so no need.
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Speaker 5: To expand upon that.
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Speaker 3: They're a big step forward for Reid, true ace-level stuff.
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Speaker 3: uh someone that's you can count on if they scored
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Speaker 3: any runs at all his one loss record would be
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Speaker 3: significantly better but a big fan of his and he
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Speaker 3: did a very nice job this.
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Speaker 1: Year totally concur i am gonna go with walbert araña
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Speaker 1: so sam's gonna have to break the tie to me
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Speaker 1: i'm going with stuff here just pure stuff and walbert
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Speaker 1: actually had a era of 2.74 which is significantly lowered
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Speaker 1: i think reed had the better second half but Man, Urania,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy with a 99-mile-an-hour sinking fastball,
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Speaker 1: touches 101, might have touched 102 this year, with a
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Speaker 1: devastating changeup and an approving sweeper, and much like Detmers,
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Speaker 1: this kid's only 22, and he was a horse. He
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Speaker 1: did not miss a start once he got into the
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Speaker 1: rotation in mid to late April. Just a real impressive kid,
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Speaker 1: and I guess the most impressive thing about him is,
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Speaker 1: Outside of that Stuff Plus graphic in spring training that
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Speaker 1: somebody discovered, I don't think any of us had really–
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Speaker 1: we may have heard of him, but he was definitely
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Speaker 1: not on our radar coming out of spring training. So
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Speaker 1: kudos to Wobbert on really a breakout year. Sam, break
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Speaker 1: that tie.
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Speaker 4: Well, I already picked Reed Demers for the team MVP,
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Speaker 4: so it would be weird for him to not be
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Speaker 4: the best pitcher. I do agree with everything you say
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Speaker 4: about Urania. I mean, I don't think it's like a–
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Speaker 4: it's a runaway– you know, uh, situation here. And I
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Speaker 4: think Urania probably will win this superlative of this award.
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Speaker 4: He was picked as the best, uh, the Nick Adenhart
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Speaker 4: award by, you know, by the team as the best pitcher. Um,
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Speaker 4: so like I said, it could go either way. I'll
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Speaker 4: pick Detmers just cause I, you know, I felt like
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Speaker 4: from start to end, he was their guy and, uh, he,
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Speaker 4: he did that job, you know, in a way that
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Speaker 4: I think very few starting pitchers have for the angels
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Speaker 4: in the last decade. Um, and yeah, I think that
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Speaker 4: that's why I'll probably go with him.
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Speaker 1: All right, next category, Unsung Hero, Surprise Player. And I
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Speaker 1: got to give credit to Mark Trumbo. He wrote the
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Speaker 1: captions for these categories, and I like him. So this
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Speaker 1: is not a headliner, maybe a part-timer, a guy who
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Speaker 1: was called up, the guy who just put the ball
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Speaker 1: in play on a team that struck out like it
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Speaker 1: was a hobby, who quietly made you say, wait, he's
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Speaker 1: actually a big leaguer? Granted, this is a low bar.
14:55
Speaker 1: Somebody has to get credit for not being a black
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Speaker 1: hole in this lineup. I'm going to start, and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to go with the Wade Meckler, 26-year-old outfielder. What
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Speaker 1: a debut, an Angels debut, May 22nd. In one inning,
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Speaker 1: he starts in the top half with a sliding catch
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Speaker 1: while crashing into the wall in foul territory for an out.
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Speaker 1: Then he hits a three-run homer off Jacob deGrom, a
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Speaker 1: two-time Cy Young Award winner in the bottom of the
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Speaker 1: first half. To me, he just never stopped impressing me.
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Speaker 1: The guy, and it was the final week of the season.
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Speaker 1: He's got a team high 289 average right now. His
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Speaker 1: 365 on base is second on the team to Mike
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Speaker 1: Trout's 381. And what impressed me the most is probably
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Speaker 1: just the quality of his at-bats. Almost always high. Rarely
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Speaker 1: gave away an at-bat. And I love his instincts. I
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Speaker 1: love his grit. He reminds me of a little bit
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Speaker 1: of David Eckstein and Darren Erstad. Tough guys to live
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Speaker 1: up to, but I think, and you could tell the
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Speaker 1: way the fans really took to this guy. I really
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Speaker 1: like him, and I think he's got a shot to
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Speaker 1: be the team's leadoff hitter next season, especially if they can,
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Speaker 1: you know, acquire some guys who will make that possible,
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Speaker 1: move Zach Netto down. Just real impressed with Wade. Great
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Speaker 1: job for the Esperanza High School product. Who wants to
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Speaker 1: go next?
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Speaker 4: I mean, the obvious answer is Wade Meckler. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that's not like a shock or anything. I'll pick somebody
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Speaker 4: else just for the sake of it. But, you know, just,
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Speaker 4: you know, register my vote as Wade Meckler. I'll go
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Speaker 4: with Donovan Walton.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I like it.
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Speaker 4: The reason for that is, I mean, they should have
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Speaker 4: kept him on the team. I mean, he has since
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Speaker 4: gone to the A's and done exactly what he was
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Speaker 4: doing with the Angels. which is just get on base
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Speaker 4: and kind of be a solid piece of a lineup
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Speaker 4: that doesn't necessarily strike out, that they could use probably
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Speaker 4: a little bit more of as they go down the
16:58
Speaker 4: stretch of a season where they just kind of need
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Speaker 4: some depth and they need some players that don't strike
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Speaker 4: out every time they come to the plate. So I'll
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Speaker 4: give it to Donovan Walton because I felt like if
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Speaker 4: he had been here, that's what he would have gotten.
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Speaker 4: We saw it over the course of about a month
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Speaker 4: and a half or so. And good for him. I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's not easy just to kind of like
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Speaker 4: have a career year at age 32 out of nowhere.
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Speaker 4: And especially when you're, you know, a journeyman minor league
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Speaker 4: contract guy and, you know, he's got 1.5 war and
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Speaker 4: that's a pretty good year for, for Donovan.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing. What do you got Mark?
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Speaker 5: I went with Walbert Urania on this one. I had
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Speaker 5: to get him in there somewhere.
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Speaker 3: Mainly just because I coming into this year, who was
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Speaker 3: Walbert Urania? Truthfully, I, you had, you know, maybe you
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Speaker 3: saw the name written a couple of times, but looked
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Speaker 3: at the minor league numbers, you know, took one glance
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Speaker 3: and said, I don't know, man, a lot of walks,
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Speaker 3: a lot of walks, uh, hard to predict that that's
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Speaker 3: going to translate, but, uh, it has, and it has
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Speaker 3: in a really big way. And, uh, I, Wade Meckler
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Speaker 3: obviously fits this like a glove, um, as well. And
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Speaker 3: a huge fan, uh, for anyone that's watched regularly, you know,
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Speaker 3: his abats, he, the, I guess you can split it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, both of them get it, but I think
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Speaker 3: about way too consistent, hard contact. And you can clearly see,
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Speaker 3: at least to me, he's not trying to lift the ball.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's what maybe is most attractive about
18:23
Speaker 3: a team that has had a real problem trying to
18:27
Speaker 3: do that. And for those that might care, they're back
18:31
Speaker 3: in the lead in strikeouts on the offensive side. They
18:34
Speaker 3: lost that for a second, but, They reclaimed the title
18:37
Speaker 3: lowest OPS and lowest slugging, too.
18:39
Speaker 5: So I know you like those stats, Mike.
18:42
Speaker 1: I love them. All right. Health availability. On this roster,
18:48
Speaker 1: staying on the field is an achievement. Who showed up
18:50
Speaker 1: enough that you could actually plan around him? We spent
18:53
Speaker 1: years talking about what certain guys would look like if
18:56
Speaker 1: they were healthy. This year, a couple of them were.
18:59
Speaker 1: Does that change the grade, or are we still grading
19:01
Speaker 1: on a curve? Mark, we'll start with you on this one.
19:06
Speaker 1: I truthfully forgot this.
19:11
Speaker 3: Health and availability has to be the center fielder, Mike Trout.
19:16
Speaker 3: This is going to be totally winging it, but I'm
19:19
Speaker 3: assuming your answers might be the same. Yeah, I'm going
19:22
Speaker 3: with Trout too.
19:22
Speaker 1: It is kind of obvious. After four injury-marred seasons and
19:24
Speaker 1: a 2025 season in which he was relegated to DH
19:26
Speaker 1: for 106 out of 130 games. Trout has started 109
19:39
Speaker 1: of 137, uh, games in center field in 2026. He, uh,
19:44
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly the Mike Trout three-time, uh, MVP winner of old, uh,
19:50
Speaker 1: and he certainly was not a gold glover in center
19:53
Speaker 1: field in fact this was surprising he ranked 14th among
19:56
Speaker 1: 17 qualifying center fielders with a minus eight defensive runs
20:01
Speaker 1: saved and 16th with minus five outs above average according
20:06
Speaker 1: to fangraphs but he had a respectable season at the
20:08
Speaker 1: plate hitting 241 with an 800 OPS. That second figure
20:14
Speaker 1: boosted greatly by his 102 walks, third most in Major
20:18
Speaker 1: League Baseball. 21 homers, 25 doubles, 53 RBIs. You definitely
20:25
Speaker 1: want some more RBIs in that three-hole, scored 82 runs.
20:29
Speaker 1: The weird thing is, if you told me before the
20:31
Speaker 1: season that Mike Trout was going to start 120 games
20:34
Speaker 1: in center field and play the whole season, you know,
20:39
Speaker 1: minus one short, uh, injury list. And I would have
20:42
Speaker 1: thought the angels would be in much better shape than
20:44
Speaker 1: they are. So kind of a shame that they actually
20:47
Speaker 1: got Mike trial for a whole year and, and they're
20:49
Speaker 1: still going to finish with a hundred losses or close
20:52
Speaker 1: to Sam.
20:54
Speaker 4: I'm going to switch it up a little bit. I'm
20:56
Speaker 4: going to go with Yohan Moncada.
20:57
Speaker 1: And the reason.
21:03
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's probably Trout or Neto. I mean,
21:05
Speaker 4: Neto was very reliable. You guys talked about that at
21:08
Speaker 4: the very top. I mean, he was essentially... I think
21:10
Speaker 4: he missed one series where he... I forgot exactly what happened,
21:14
Speaker 4: but Trout was available. I don't really think Trout should
21:17
Speaker 4: kind of be married to the center field role. you know,
21:20
Speaker 4: as you kind of alluded to, it wasn't a very
21:21
Speaker 4: strong defensive center fielder. When you watch him, the eye
21:23
Speaker 4: test will tell you something similar that probably, you know,
21:27
Speaker 4: isn't necessarily the best primary position for him at the moment.
21:31
Speaker 4: But if it helps him stay on the field, helps
21:33
Speaker 4: him stay motivated and healthy, I mean, you know, that's
21:36
Speaker 4: a valuable thing to have. I mean, we look up
21:39
Speaker 4: and down the Angels lineup, you know, he's got four
21:40
Speaker 4: war and there's, you know, only Netto that's even really
21:43
Speaker 4: in that same range. So I'd probably go with, you know,
21:47
Speaker 4: Trout or Netto. It's not a shocking pick. but it's, uh,
21:50
Speaker 4: you know, kind of a split, split the baby there.
21:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's going to be interesting how they handle this
21:55
Speaker 1: situation moving forward. I remember, was it four? It's gotta
21:57
Speaker 1: be at least four or five years when I think
21:59
Speaker 1: Joe Maddon was there and they, the first day of
22:02
Speaker 1: spring training, they said, we're moving trout to the corners
22:05
Speaker 1: and he had trout. Yeah. He did not respond, respond
22:08
Speaker 1: well to that. And of course he hardly played the
22:11
Speaker 1: outfield over the next few years. And yeah, he's definitely
22:14
Speaker 1: not the center fielder he once was. What do you
22:16
Speaker 1: do with this guy? Uh, Do you pursue a center
22:20
Speaker 1: fielder who Mike Trout looks at and says, okay, this
22:23
Speaker 1: guy has to play center field. He's so much better
22:25
Speaker 1: than me. All right, we're going to go right from
22:27
Speaker 1: that category to three. I think you're going to like
22:30
Speaker 1: these categories. Biggest disappointment, the player who is supposed to
22:35
Speaker 1: be a long-term answer to position, disappointing compared to expectation
22:40
Speaker 1: or disappointing because the team desperately needed him not to
22:43
Speaker 1: be this bad. I'm going to lead off in this category.
22:46
Speaker 1: I'm going with Josh Lowe. And I know it was
22:51
Speaker 1: a rough start to the season. His mother did pass away,
22:53
Speaker 1: and I want to acknowledge that. But the Angels traded
22:57
Speaker 1: a pretty good reliever in Brock Burke to get this
22:59
Speaker 1: guy from Tampa Bay in hopes he would reprice his
23:03
Speaker 1: 2023 season. With the Rays, he hit. 292 with an.
23:07
Speaker 1: 835 OPS, 20 homers, and 83 RBIs that year. But
23:11
Speaker 1: he got off to such a bad start with the
23:13
Speaker 1: Angels that he was demoted to AAA Salt Lake in
23:16
Speaker 1: late May, At that time, he was hitting 184 with
23:19
Speaker 1: a 546 OPS, 5 homers, and 14 RBIs in 45 games.
23:24
Speaker 1: He did return in late June, and he played better.
23:28
Speaker 1: Right now, he's got a 209 mark, 637 OPS, 12 homers,
23:32
Speaker 1: 29 RBIs, 98 strikeouts in 109 games, all of which
23:38
Speaker 1: will probably get him non-tendered over the winter. I will
23:40
Speaker 1: say this about Josh. He plays a decent outfield, got
23:43
Speaker 1: a good arm. And he battles in the box probably
23:46
Speaker 1: as well as anybody, probably as well as Wade Meckler.
23:50
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this, but if I
23:52
Speaker 1: had to guess, he probably leads the team in at-bats
23:54
Speaker 1: of 10 pitches or more. Just had a knack for
23:57
Speaker 1: fighting off tough pitches. Sometimes that led to a good result. But, man,
24:01
Speaker 1: he could have been a real answer in one of those,
24:03
Speaker 1: at least in the left field spot going into the season.
24:06
Speaker 1: Now it's just a big question mark. Mark, what do
24:10
Speaker 1: you got on this one?
24:12
Speaker 3: Well, he's not with the club any longer, but I
24:15
Speaker 3: got Round Rock, DH, catcher, third baseman, Logan Ohapi. Again,
24:23
Speaker 3: a topic or a category that is not flattering, but
24:27
Speaker 3: a full minus one war at the catcher position is
24:32
Speaker 3: hard to.
24:33
Speaker 1: Do, in fact.
24:34
Speaker 3: And this year was certainly not the year he was
24:37
Speaker 3: hoping for. I still contend that his off-season hitting routine
24:43
Speaker 3: And the advice he took, it didn't work for him.
24:46
Speaker 3: And not to say it won't work for some, but
24:49
Speaker 3: he really leaned into a swing path that gave very
24:53
Speaker 3: limited time for the barrel to be in the zone.
24:56
Speaker 3: It zapped his power. I believe he had four home
24:58
Speaker 3: runs on the year. And for a guy that is
25:01
Speaker 3: counted on for the big power bat, you know, it
25:04
Speaker 3: really wasn't there. A lot of frustration, too. In addition,
25:09
Speaker 3: we've seen how the pitchers have been throwing since he
25:13
Speaker 3: hasn't been around. And I think that the bigger factor
25:17
Speaker 3: probably is the change in pitching.
25:18
Speaker 5: Coach, coaches.
25:21
Speaker 3: And I, you know, with Mike Maddox, he probably does
25:24
Speaker 3: deserve credit. Absolutely does in some cases, but it's really
25:28
Speaker 3: hard to define. What's easier to define is the fact
25:31
Speaker 3: that they've hit the ground running, taken off since he's
25:34
Speaker 3: not been there. An article of Fletch just wrote to,
25:36
Speaker 3: I think highlighted that even more better communication going on.
25:40
Speaker 3: And when I was saw some of the stuff about,
25:43
Speaker 3: and this is piggybacking with the catching and who's calling
25:46
Speaker 3: the pitches, but they weren't using their best pitches as
25:49
Speaker 3: often as possible.
25:51
Speaker 5: And that is just.
25:52
Speaker 3: Ridiculous as that is the model every team is using.
25:56
Speaker 3: Literally the blueprint, the Dodgers have been using for years,
25:59
Speaker 3: throw your best pitches most often. And for whatever reason,
26:02
Speaker 3: the Angels were not doing that, trying to throw maybe
26:05
Speaker 3: four pitches when the guy's fourth pitch was lousy. and
26:09
Speaker 3: mix it in at a quarter of the time or something. But, um,
26:13
Speaker 3: Logan Ohapi, I think this year was one where he
26:15
Speaker 3: really could have vaulted forward, been that team captain, team leader,
26:19
Speaker 3: you know, big mural on the outside of the stadium. And, um,
26:23
Speaker 3: you know, I hope that, uh, the Rangers are a
26:26
Speaker 3: better fit for him as a young guy still has
26:28
Speaker 3: a lot of, uh, career left, but, uh, he was
26:31
Speaker 3: disappointing this year.
26:32
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, who's your biggest disappointment?
26:36
Speaker 4: Oh, well, I probably, I probably could have said, uh,
26:38
Speaker 4: either of those two, but I'll go with Yusei Kikuchi.
26:42
Speaker 4: You know, he won highly paid starting pitcher, you know,
26:47
Speaker 4: just lacked, I mean, the ZRA is up above five
26:49
Speaker 4: at this point. That was hurt. You know, wasn't good
26:53
Speaker 4: enough or healthy enough to trade him. Probably not, hasn't
26:56
Speaker 4: been good enough down the stretch, maybe to trade him
26:59
Speaker 4: in this off season. I mean, he kind of needed
27:00
Speaker 4: him to come back and be really good in order
27:02
Speaker 4: to have much value there. So, you know, I mean,
27:06
Speaker 4: maybe it goes to a little bit of what Mark
27:07
Speaker 4: was just saying with, pitching coaches and not, you know,
27:10
Speaker 4: it seemed like everybody kind of has gotten better since
27:12
Speaker 4: that this change has been made. And so, and Kikuchi's
27:15
Speaker 4: only had some of, somewhat of a runway on that
27:17
Speaker 4: front to begin with, but yeah, it's just not been that,
27:20
Speaker 4: that good of a year for him coming off of
27:22
Speaker 4: an all-star season. And I, I just don't know what
27:24
Speaker 4: value he brings to the angels next year outside of
27:27
Speaker 4: potentially being a trade chip. And I don't know if
27:29
Speaker 4: that's really something that will garner much at this point now,
27:33
Speaker 4: even at a relatively, you know, modest 13 million a
27:36
Speaker 4: year in a, in a contract year next year.
27:39
Speaker 1: And next category, what were they thinking? This is an acquisition, usage, role,
27:44
Speaker 1: and early season plan that fell apart in six weeks.
27:46
Speaker 1: The move that looked fine on paper in March and
27:49
Speaker 1: looked like a punchline by May. Every year there's a
27:52
Speaker 1: name in this category. This one didn't even last until
27:54
Speaker 1: the All-Star break. Sam, we'll let you start on this one.
27:58
Speaker 4: It's the easiest answer I've ever given, and that is
28:00
Speaker 4: Alec Manoa.
28:01
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not....
28:04
Speaker 4: I mean, there are a couple of signings this offseason,
28:07
Speaker 4: especially at the bullpen that were just like head scratches.
28:09
Speaker 4: But Alec Manoa, I think it's an embarrassing decision to
28:14
Speaker 4: have given him a big league contract. And it's not
28:17
Speaker 4: a disrespect to Alec. I understand the name. I understand
28:20
Speaker 4: he's got pride as a big leaguer, has accomplished a
28:23
Speaker 4: lot in his big league career. But, you know, there
28:26
Speaker 4: were just so many signs here that he was not
28:28
Speaker 4: of that caliber anymore. And to give him guaranteed money,
28:32
Speaker 4: I mean, he... Came in spring training and was really bad.
28:36
Speaker 4: You know, still got a spot on the big league roster.
28:38
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if that was just a point of
28:39
Speaker 4: pride for Perry or what, but, you know, looked really
28:42
Speaker 4: bad on the big league roster. Then got sent out
28:44
Speaker 4: to AAA and was just, you know, I think he's
28:46
Speaker 4: ERA was up above like 23 over a span of
28:49
Speaker 4: almost like a month or so. And they had to
28:51
Speaker 4: just cut him. I mean, you know, so you get
28:53
Speaker 4: to a point where this is just like someone who's
28:55
Speaker 4: not even capable of pitching in the minor leagues at
28:57
Speaker 4: this point, probably wouldn't get much of a contract in
29:00
Speaker 4: Indy ball. to get a big league contract this year
29:02
Speaker 4: was just like, what were you thinking? I mean, that's
29:04
Speaker 4: the only real justification. And again, it's not a disrespect
29:07
Speaker 4: to Alec or his career. I, you know, he's accomplished
29:10
Speaker 4: quite a bit, but the signing itself wasn't, wasn't based in,
29:13
Speaker 4: in any sort of sound reasoning, in my opinion.
29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mark, who do you got in this category?
29:19
Speaker 5: Where do you want to start?
29:20
Speaker 3: I think that what was Harry, Harry thinking was the,
29:24
Speaker 3: the alternate title.
29:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:27
Speaker 3: When we say they, I'm going to, Part of my answer, well,
29:32
Speaker 3: when they DFA'd Wade Meckler on January 28th, that can
29:36
Speaker 3: be explained better. What I'm going to go with for
29:39
Speaker 3: my answer is signing someone you knew that was injured
29:42
Speaker 3: in Johan Moncada to a $ 5 million contract. He played
29:46
Speaker 3: for you last year. No team has his medical history
29:51
Speaker 3: as in-depth as you do, seeing as how he was
29:54
Speaker 3: your player. And $ 5 million is nothing to sneeze at.
29:58
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot of money. to a guy
30:00
Speaker 3: that you knew was banged up and he played like it. Um,
30:04
Speaker 3: there was really nothing great about it. Season, uh, I
30:07
Speaker 3: guess unofficially came to an end with the Francis Romero
30:10
Speaker 3: tweet the other day. And, um, this is a head scratcher. I, I,
30:18
Speaker 3: there were plenty of, uh, infielders out there and you
30:21
Speaker 3: signed a guy that was, uh, most likely going to
30:24
Speaker 3: be on the shelf for a decent amount of time.
30:27
Speaker 5: And you give him $ 5 million. I don't understand it.
30:29
Speaker 5: What do you think, Mike?
30:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with Yohan Munkat on this one too. Yeah.
30:33
Speaker 1: And I think his season came to an end right
30:35
Speaker 1: after another third baseman, Anthony Rendon season came to an end.
30:41
Speaker 1: A real head scratcher for factual purposes. It was a
30:45
Speaker 1: $ 4 million contract, but still that's a pretty good chunk
30:48
Speaker 1: of change to give to a guy who you know
30:50
Speaker 1: is probably, he had a chronic knee injury last year.
30:52
Speaker 1: He only played 85 games for the Angels, as Mark notes.
30:58
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this guy better than ever. You
31:00
Speaker 1: also know his mental makeup, his attitude, his efforts, which
31:08
Speaker 1: to us, you know, maybe he was hurt. Maybe we
31:11
Speaker 1: weren't putting enough emphasis on that early in the season.
31:16
Speaker 1: And to me, he probably took up a position in
31:19
Speaker 1: a roster spot For a guy, maybe you could have
31:22
Speaker 1: brought Denzer Guzman up earlier in the year and given
31:24
Speaker 1: him a longer look. Maybe there's another prospect in your
31:26
Speaker 1: system you could have given a better look at. But
31:30
Speaker 1: the numbers, Mankata hit 189 with a 605 OPS, three homers,
31:36
Speaker 1: and 10 RBIs in 41 games. He rarely ran hard
31:41
Speaker 1: to first base, so I think that set a bad
31:44
Speaker 1: example for a veteran. Went on the injured list in
31:49
Speaker 1: late May. And much like Anthony Rendon, we never heard
31:52
Speaker 1: from him again outside of that really timely and key
31:57
Speaker 1: tweet from Francis. So thank you for that. And I
31:59
Speaker 1: would start with a little dishonorable mention in this category.
32:04
Speaker 1: This might open up a whole other can of worms.
32:06
Speaker 1: But what was Perry thinking when he hired Kurt Suzuki
32:10
Speaker 1: as his manager? To me, we've talked about it on
32:12
Speaker 1: this show before. A one-year contract has just set him
32:15
Speaker 1: up for failure. Probably the biggest no-win situation a manager
32:20
Speaker 1: has ever walked into. It's clear to us, at least
32:25
Speaker 1: it's clear to me, that he probably wasn't ready for
32:28
Speaker 1: this job. Maybe they couldn't find anybody else to take
32:30
Speaker 1: a one-year contract and they were stuck on that. I
32:32
Speaker 1: don't know, but that seemed like a bit of a
32:34
Speaker 1: head-scratcher for me. If anyone wants to elaborate on that,
32:37
Speaker 1: feel free. If not, we'll go on to our last category. Anyone?
32:41
Speaker 5: It'll make a great social clip, if nothing else.
32:46
Speaker 1: Okay, the last category, most frustrating. This is not the
32:50
Speaker 1: worst player, the one who flashed just enough that you
32:52
Speaker 1: kept waiting for it to click, and then it didn't
32:54
Speaker 1: for weeks at a time. Power without contact, contact without damage,
32:59
Speaker 1: stuff without command, the almost. Some nights, that's the whole offense.
33:04
Speaker 1: If we had to put a face on it, who's yours? Sam,
33:06
Speaker 1: who do you got?
33:07
Speaker 4: I would say Christian Moore, and it's not because he
33:11
Speaker 4: was so disappointing at the big league level of cause
33:13
Speaker 4: he hasn't played that much of the big league level.
33:15
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think it's more like, you know,
33:17
Speaker 4: I think that you're kind of, you were kind of
33:19
Speaker 4: hoping this year, especially in a year where the team's
33:21
Speaker 4: pretty bad and there's a lot of, maybe a lot
33:23
Speaker 4: of opportunities just to kind of like see what, what
33:26
Speaker 4: players can do, what they're made of. And like, you know,
33:28
Speaker 4: I don't think you go into next year with like
33:30
Speaker 4: a lot of confidence that this guy's going to be
33:33
Speaker 4: like in your lineup or an everyday player for you.
33:36
Speaker 4: And I think if that is your perspective on it, then,
33:39
Speaker 4: you know, that's another issue because he just hasn't proven
33:42
Speaker 4: that that's something he's earned yet. So I would probably
33:44
Speaker 4: go with, with more. I think you could also maybe
33:46
Speaker 4: say like Peraza just started at the year really strong,
33:49
Speaker 4: but has kind of fall fallen back into like a
33:52
Speaker 4: non tender player most likely. And you know, those are
33:55
Speaker 4: the Josh Lowe, similar, similar. You alluded to all that earlier.
33:58
Speaker 4: So I'll just go with Christian Moore. I just don't
34:00
Speaker 4: think like right now he's someone that you're penciling in
34:03
Speaker 4: as an everyday player. And that would probably have been
34:05
Speaker 4: the goal for him this year is to, play well
34:08
Speaker 4: enough to feel like you have that sewn up in 2027.
34:11
Speaker 4: All right.
34:11
Speaker 1: I'm going to go next and then we'll let Mark
34:14
Speaker 1: close us out. Uh, I gave really strong consideration in
34:17
Speaker 1: this category to Jose Siri, uh, Because he'd show flashes
34:22
Speaker 1: of brilliance on both sides of the ball at times.
34:26
Speaker 1: I think as of a couple weeks ago, he actually
34:28
Speaker 1: had the longest distance covered to catch a fly ball.
34:32
Speaker 1: Who knows if he went from the center field to
34:33
Speaker 1: the left field line. It was like 130 feet or something.
34:37
Speaker 1: I was stunned to see that. But he's often the
34:40
Speaker 1: clueless in the field. He's dropped routine fly balls. He
34:43
Speaker 1: doesn't throw to the right base all the time. And
34:46
Speaker 1: some of his at-bats just look incredibly empty. But I
34:51
Speaker 1: got to go with Logan Ohapi on this one. Most frustrating.
34:54
Speaker 1: Mainly because he showed such potential in 23 and 24.
35:00
Speaker 1: He looked like a real up-and-coming catcher. And I looked
35:03
Speaker 1: up some of these numbers. First of all, we know
35:05
Speaker 1: his struggles at the plate, well-documented. Behind the plate, For
35:12
Speaker 1: catchers with over 500 innings this year, he has minus
35:16
Speaker 1: 17 defensive runs saved, according to Fangraphs. That ranked dead
35:21
Speaker 1: last among 39 major league catchers who caught 500 innings
35:24
Speaker 1: or more. And, you know, he's really struggled at the plate.
35:28
Speaker 1: No longer with us. Really liked the kid. Hope he,
35:31
Speaker 1: you know, figures it out. But, wow, that would be
35:33
Speaker 1: my most frustrating player. And we'll go to Mark for
35:36
Speaker 1: the final thought. Going to go past and present. Past
35:43
Speaker 1: player this season, big Jorge Soler. Most frustrating for quite
35:48
Speaker 1: a while. He did take big swings. Came up empty
35:52
Speaker 1: a lot.
35:54
Speaker 5: Didn't hustle.
35:56
Speaker 3: Kind of a guy that didn't fit the mold of
36:00
Speaker 3: the brand that the Angels are going for at all.
36:03
Speaker 5: Making a lot of money, too.
36:05
Speaker 3: He was a guy that I'm not quite sure what
36:07
Speaker 3: the vision was. I think the Angels might have just
36:09
Speaker 3: taken him off the Braves' hands. Somewhat of a salary dump. Because, yeah,
36:17
Speaker 3: I mean, he started off good. He'd have big spring trainings.
36:21
Speaker 3: And then early in the season, bopped a couple. But
36:24
Speaker 3: that low and away slider and his bat didn't. That
36:29
Speaker 3: wasn't a great matchup. The current player is frustrating. Jose Hayes, Siri. Uh,
36:36
Speaker 3: I watch him and he doesn't have a lot in
36:38
Speaker 3: common with the players that I respect the most. Uh,
36:42
Speaker 3: that jump cash the other day where he muffed it. Um,
36:46
Speaker 3: he does a lot of things that I just don't
36:49
Speaker 3: understand why the need, um, probably cause I have no
36:52
Speaker 3: drip and, uh, I'm boring and, uh, it's just, I
36:57
Speaker 3: don't have a big chain and everything else, but, uh,
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Speaker 3: I look at a guy that really would not be
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Speaker 3: a great fit for Mike Socha's ball clubs that I
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Speaker 3: came up on. And by a great fit, he wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have been a fit at all. I don't think he
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Speaker 3: would have ever been brought in. Or if he did,
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Speaker 3: he would have got to clean that S up. Kind
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Speaker 3: of like you probably got a few of those too, Mike.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, I guess it's just not discouraged and nobody's
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Speaker 3: pulled him to the side. He's 30 on the, you know,
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Speaker 3: he's an adult man. So what are you really going
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Speaker 3: to tell a guy that's that old? Somebody must enjoy
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Speaker 3: watching him do these things. Makes for some jokes, LOLs
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Speaker 3: on the broadcast. But the only person that's LOLing is
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Speaker 3: me usually at some of these things he does. He's
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Speaker 3: very athletic, and he has a lot of promise. I
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Speaker 3: go back to the scouting report Caleb Joseph gave. He
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Speaker 3: said he's raw. And I said, look at the guy's age.
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Speaker 1: He's 30-something, right? Yeah.
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Speaker 5: If not 30, close to it. You can't be a
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Speaker 5: project at that age.
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Speaker 1: But he is.
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Speaker 3: Still looks like he has potential. But this is what
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Speaker 3: he does. And if you like it, you like it.
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Speaker 3: If you're like me, maybe it frustrates you. But I
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Speaker 3: think that we did the best we could tackling these categories.
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Speaker 3: I think the real hope was that maybe the fans
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Speaker 3: in the comments section can Maybe we'll list them cohesively,
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Speaker 3: and you guys can give your opinions. If you agree, disagree,
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Speaker 3: want to tell us to fly a kite, that's fine, too.
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Speaker 3: Uncle Tico is a big fan of Mike's and wanted
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Speaker 3: to give him recognition, too. He seems to be a
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Speaker 3: constant troll in the comments, so that's all I got, Mike.
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Speaker 5: Mark has no patience for your comments.
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Speaker 1: We thought we were negative. How about Trump drop a kite?
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Speaker 1: How about Trump dropping a no drip on our listeners?
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Speaker 1: How cool is that 40-year-old guy, huh? Pretty cool, huh, Sam?
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Speaker 4: More drip than he realizes.
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Speaker 1: All right, that's going to put a wrap on our first,
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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe to be our annual year-end awards show.
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Speaker 1: Sam Blum of The Athletic, thanks as always for joining.
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Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, always a pleasure. Thanks for watching. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: listening in. Please like and subscribe, and we will see
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Speaker 1: you next time on Halo Territory.