Latest / The Living Waters Podcast / Ep. 279 - Is It Unspiritual for Christians to Pursue Physical Health?

Transcript

Ep. 279 - Is It Unspiritual for Christians to Pursue Physical Health? · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Ray Comfort: I have empathy with people who are overweight, because I know there's a monster that lives in me that wants to eat 24 hours a day, and I'm not joking.
• 1:10
  Ray Comfort: I could wake up in the middle of the night, go downstairs and have a hamburger.
• 1:13
  Ray Comfort: No, no problem.
• 1:15
  Ray Comfort: Some people can't eat at night.
• 1:16
  Ray Comfort: I can eat at any time, almost eat anything.
• 1:18
  Ray Comfort: So there's this monster that's insatiable.
• 1:20
  Ray Comfort: And one thing I've found that really helps.
• 1:22
  Ray Comfort: It's gonna sound strange but it's.
• 1:24
  Ray Comfort: I call it an inch milkshake.
• 1:25
  Ray Comfort: I just put an inch of whole milk in a thing and I just go and put some what's it called?
• 1:30
  Ray Comfort: Monk, fruit Monk fruit, oh yeah.
• 1:32
  Oscar Navarro: Monk fruit, oh yeah, got some protein.
• 1:34
  Ray Comfort: It's really good.
• 1:35
  Ray Comfort: It's no calories.
• 1:36
  Ray Comfort: Just put that in and that fluffs up to five inches of milkshake and it tastes nice and sweet and that fills me up for about an hour.
• 1:43
  Ray Comfort: It keeps that monster down.
• 1:45
  Ray Comfort: It's really helpful.
• 1:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you know I mentioned on a previous podcast that I'm intermittent fasting right now and you know what helps me I drink a cup of tea and that holds me over.
• 1:57
  Ray Comfort: It's the heat of the water.
• 2:03
  Emeal Zwayne: What do you call a baklava-addicted, non-spanish-speaking Mexican from America in Peru, climbing Mount Muchichachapachuchu, drinking corroded motor oil and badly mispronouncing the names of revered church fathers?
• 2:19
  Emeal Zwayne: You call him Oscar Navarro.
• 2:23
  Oscar Navarro: That's going to be on my tombstone, the whole thing, oh yeah.
• 2:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar Navarro, the part zebra man.
• 2:28
  Oscar Navarro: Ah, I see what you did there, I did.
• 2:30
  Oscar Navarro: I got to hike Machu Picchu last Sunday.
• 2:32
  Ray Comfort: Could you explain what that is?
• 2:33
  Ray Comfort: It sounds like some sort of disease.
• 2:35
  Oscar Navarro: It is.
• 2:35
  Oscar Navarro: I conquered it.
• 2:38
  Oscar Navarro: It is one of the seven new wonders of the world.
• 2:40
  Oscar Navarro: It is a.
• 2:41
  Oscar Navarro: Is it really?
• 2:42
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, it is one of wonders of the world.
• 2:54
  Oscar Navarro: What happened to the other one?
• 2:55
  Oscar Navarro: Did they bump off?
• 2:55
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, no, no, because there's seven old wonders, oh, seven new wonders.
• 2:56
  Oscar Navarro: So the only old wonder that's still still in existence is the pyramids, and then the new wonders consists of, like, the great wall, the coliseum, machu picchu and a few other things.
• 3:01
  Oscar Navarro: That's new.
• 3:01
  Oscar Navarro: Those are the new wonders of the world.
• 3:03
  Oscar Navarro: The wall, great wall of china I believe that's under the new yeah, who makes these decisions, mr Wonder?
• 3:10
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah right, they have a whole.
• 3:12
  Oscar Navarro: There's like I read about it, there's like this whole process.
• 3:14
  Ray Comfort: And why are they called wonders of the world?
• 3:16
  Ray Comfort: They wonder how it got there, or what.
• 3:18
  Oscar Navarro: Part of it, or how they stayed around.
• 3:20
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, so for what I saw in Machu Picchu, it's like you've seen it on, like Apple TV, where it's like this big, beautiful green city that was on top of a mountain, and this particular one, as I learned, was like a, was like a resort for the elite, for the political, for the spiritual elite.
• 3:40
  Oscar Navarro: They'd go up there.
• 3:41
  Oscar Navarro: Here's what was funny is, though, I had this, I had this um tour guide, and he was ridiculous.
• 3:47
  Oscar Navarro: So the two things that he said that I found hilarious.
• 3:49
  Oscar Navarro: He goes you know, you got to understand that the Incas were the only culture that didn't have slaves.
• 3:54
  Oscar Navarro: And then he says you might be wondering how they got all this stuff up here.
• 3:56
  Oscar Navarro: He goes you have to understand, when one Ica tribe took over another Inca tribe, they would force them to pay taxes in the form of physical labor I'm like wait of physical labor.
• 4:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm like, oh wait, you're like slaves.
• 4:09
  Oscar Navarro: I'm a hundred percent serious.
• 4:12
  Oscar Navarro: I'm like, oh, you mean like slavery, how long did it take you to hike it?
• 4:16
  Oscar Navarro: Well, I was hiking around Machu Picchu for about four hours.
• 4:20
  Oscar Navarro: There's different things you can do.
• 4:21
  Oscar Navarro: You do a four day full hike.
• 4:26
  Oscar Navarro: You can do a seven hour one day hike to get up there and then the four hour hour hike.
• 4:28
  Oscar Navarro: Because I only had a day.
• 4:28
  Oscar Navarro: I wanted to get home to my family.
• 4:30
  Oscar Navarro: I did the easy route and just did the four hour hike.
• 4:33
  Oscar Navarro: I would love to go back and do the full thing have a helicopter hike but here's the other thing, and and um, man, this is, this is fuel for for the fire, for you, mark, we get to the um, we get to the temple and he's explaining, you know, they would sacrifice goats and they would sacrifice sheep, and then he would go, you know, every now and then, 6,000 times a year, every now and then they would sacrifice children.
• 5:00
  Oscar Navarro: But you have to understand, it was because they saw them as pure and I'm like, so that's supposed to make it like yeah Right, wow, you're so pure and innocent, let me murder you.
• 5:12
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, how nice, thank you.
• 5:13
  Oscar Navarro: And meanwhile he's explaining it to us and I could not help.
• 5:17
  Oscar Navarro: But I'm standing there staring at the idol that they would do it at and in my mind I couldn't help but just hear the wailing of those children as they burned, you know, as he's trying to tell us about how they were pure.
• 5:29
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, wow, that's uh did you rebuke him?
• 5:32
  Oscar Navarro: Uh, I had.
• 5:33
  Oscar Navarro: I had a conversation with him about those two things, yeah, and I preached the gospel to him.
• 5:37
  Oscar Navarro: Good for you.
• 5:37
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I did.
• 5:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Was his name Augustine.
• 5:40
  Emeal Zwayne: No it was Augustine, okay.
• 5:42
  Ray Comfort: What's the English equivalent to Machu Picchu or whatever it is?
• 5:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know.
• 5:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Now this is in Peru, for those of you that don't know, so is it one of the highest mountains in the world.
• 5:54
  Oscar Navarro: No, not at all.
• 5:55
  Oscar Navarro: So Cusco, which is the city you land in, is 12,000 feet, and then Machu Picchu is only at 9,000.
• 6:04
  Oscar Navarro: I say only I know that's high for a lot of people, but that's the same as Mammoth.
• 6:06
  Oscar Navarro: I say only I know that's high for a lot of people, but that's the, that's the same as mammoth.
• 6:08
  Oscar Navarro: Wow.
• 6:08
  Oscar Navarro: But so people were getting um, what is it called Altitude sickness, I think, cause I travel and snowboard a lot.
• 6:15
  Oscar Navarro: I don't get that.
• 6:16
  Oscar Navarro: But there were people like one guy told me about a lady he saw get hospitalized cause she couldn't do it.
• 6:23
  Emeal Zwayne: I bet, oscar, though the highlight of your trip was that video you sent me, with some guy sitting down and giving you guys a coffee lecture.
• 6:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that was so cool he was like he was getting into it too, and uh, actually the highlight so.
• 6:36
  Oscar Navarro: So what happened was I invited a bunch of the pastors and the guy that was there with us and Luis, our Latin American, uh, the guy who oversees, uh, living Waters of Espanol.
• 6:44
  Oscar Navarro: I.
• 6:45
  Oscar Navarro: I found this coffee shop online.
• 6:47
  Oscar Navarro: It was like the best one in Peru and we went there and when you order a pour over a Chemex, they come out and they present it to you and they walk you through the process of what's happening and they invite you to taste the flavor.
• 7:00
  Oscar Navarro: He did a great job and it was amazing because I was just explaining to them why I like the coffee that I like and then they come out and do the entire presentation and I won a few of the guys over.
• 7:10
  Oscar Navarro: That wasn't my highlight, though.
• 7:12
  Oscar Navarro: My highlight was we landed in Cusco.
• 7:14
  Oscar Navarro: No, we landed in another city and we walk out of the airplane.
• 7:18
  Ray Comfort: Cusco Costco.
• 7:19
  Oscar Navarro: Costco.
• 7:19
  Oscar Navarro: We walk out of the airplane and there's like 20 or 30 faithful brothers singing to us.
• 7:26
  Oscar Navarro: I wanted you to share that.
• 7:28
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, man, it was so.
• 7:29
  Oscar Navarro: You know the guy Abel who brought us out there.
• 7:33
  Oscar Navarro: He oversees, I think, like 6,000 evangelistic college students over all of these college campuses and so every city we went to, there were people meeting us at the airport like just singing us songs and giving us gifts, and they're all been impacted by the ministry.
• 7:50
  Oscar Navarro: I can't tell you.
• 7:51
  Oscar Navarro: Every single place I went it was like.
• 7:53
  Oscar Navarro: It was like what God is doing through Living Waters, through Ray's faithfulness through all these years.
• 8:00
  Oscar Navarro: I mean I I came back like humbled and on fire for the way the Lord is using living waters all over the world.
• 8:08
  Oscar Navarro: It was so encouraging.
• 8:10
  Oscar Navarro: These people have been encouraged and lifted up to proclaim the gospel in Latin America.
• 8:15
  Oscar Navarro: It's amazing.
• 8:17
  Emeal Zwayne: I was really blessed by your report and again, just the thought that, yeah, the Lord's using the ministry all over the world Thanks to our Spanish ministry.
• 8:24
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:25
  Emeal Zwayne: For those of you friends, by the way, who are listening, you have Spanish-speaking friends or people that you know.
• 8:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Living Waters Español.
• 8:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Our YouTube channel has almost 400,000 subscribers.
• 8:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Great videos.
• 8:35
  Emeal Zwayne: A lot of our top videos have been translated, so check it out there.
• 8:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, by the way, the guy who owns that coffee shop is the one who sells me my flavored creamer, just so you know.
• 8:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, yeah, one of the seven wonders of the world.
• 8:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you know that Ray is the one duh of the world?
• 8:54
  Mark Spence: The one duh, the one duh of the world, it's just him waving.
• 9:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oh, wow, that's awesome, oscar.
• 9:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Glad you're back safely.
• 9:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, all right, friends.
• 9:06
  Emeal Zwayne: A cool, classy comment.
• 9:07
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from Stephen Corpy.
• 9:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Good afternoon Thanks.
• 9:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank all of you for letting God use you and being faithful to him.
• 9:16
  Emeal Zwayne: You are an encouragement to me.
• 9:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Alongside with my church, I feel like I'm in another small group and listening to the podcast, you guys feel like family and, of course, you are in Christ.
• 9:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Please keep doing these podcasts.
• 9:29
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm learning so much.
• 9:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Easy, keep making a joyful noise.
• 9:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, la-la-la-la-la-la-la.
• 9:36
  Emeal Zwayne: I almost liked that, you almost liked that.
• 9:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I almost liked that comment Almost yeah.
• 9:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Then she yeah, oh, yeah.
• 9:43
  Emeal Zwayne: And then she went on to or he, I'm sorry, transitioned Stephen.
• 9:47
  Emeal Zwayne: And then she went on to or he, I'm sorry, transitioned Stephen.
• 9:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Then he went on to ask which Bible verse they should put on their car.
• 9:56
  Emeal Zwayne: What would you guys recommend?
• 9:59
  Emeal Zwayne: A Bible verse on the car.
• 10:00
  Oscar Navarro: A woman should learn in full submission in quietness.
• 10:02
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a guy, Stephen.
• 10:04
  Emeal Zwayne: I accidentally read it as Stephanie, but it's Stephen.
• 10:07
  Ray Comfort: All the disciples were in one accord.
• 10:11
  Oscar Navarro: It's a.
• 10:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Honda Accord yeah, that's good.
• 10:14
  Oscar Navarro: Get behind me, Satan.
• 10:17
  Ray Comfort: Well, that'd be a good bumper sticker for a car, wouldn't it?
• 10:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that would be a good one.
• 10:21
  Ray Comfort: Tailgater Repent and believe the gospel.
• 10:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, there we go.
• 10:26
  Ray Comfort: Oh, no serious.
• 10:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, there's a lot of good ones, stephen.
• 10:31
  Emeal Zwayne: But hey, thanks for writing in and we're blessed that you're blessed, so needgodcom is also a good thing to me.
• 10:38
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, you have bumper stickers.
• 10:39
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, that's what I would recommend, because that's going to pique curiosity.
• 10:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Glad you remembered that.
• 10:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, It'll pique curiosity, and you know, Glad you remembered that, Ray.
• 10:47
  Emeal Zwayne: It'll pique curiosity.
• 10:47
  Emeal Zwayne: People, I do that Sometimes.
• 10:48
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll see something on a bumper sticker and I'll go what is that?
• 10:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll check it out.
• 10:51
  Emeal Zwayne: That'll get them the gospel in its fullness.
• 10:53
  Oscar Navarro: And we have those bumper stickers on our website, right, do we still?
• 10:56
  Oscar Navarro: We used to.
• 10:56
  Oscar Navarro: We should get them again.
• 10:59
  Emeal Zwayne: We just wear a key Look on the store on livingwaterscom and we may have it there.
• 11:05
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll take a look.
• 11:07
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, take a look.
• 11:08
  Ray Comfort: We should have free stickers.
• 11:11
  Ray Comfort: Put them in all the orders, free stickers.
• 11:13
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a good idea.
• 11:14
  Mark Spence: We have fully free films.
• 11:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's it Fully free films.
• 11:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, that works too.
• 11:20
  Emeal Zwayne: You could do that as well.
• 11:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that may even be more interesting.
• 11:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Alright, friends, revolutionary, radically revolutionary resource.
• 11:28
  Emeal Zwayne: This podcast is brought to you by why christianity booklet.
• 11:32
  Emeal Zwayne: The subtitle, by the way, is solving life's most important questions that just got printed in spanish see, did it really?
• 11:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I love that, love that, love that booklet Ray.
• 11:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Even the cover looks cool.
• 11:52
  Ray Comfort: The cover looks cool and the message is so clear Give them four gifts.
• 11:55
  Ray Comfort: No one's interested in the parachute of the four gifts.
• 11:58
  Ray Comfort: They want the gold, the silver, the diamonds or whatever.
• 12:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 12:00
  Ray Comfort: Until they realize they have to jump.
• 12:01
  Ray Comfort: Suddenly, the parachute becomes important and then it swings to the gospel.
• 12:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Two men are seated on a plane.
• 12:08
  Ray Comfort: No, it wasn't Parachutes.
• 12:11
  Ray Comfort: We enjoyed filming that.
• 12:12
  Ray Comfort: Do you remember?
• 12:13
  Ray Comfort: We were out of the graveyard with all the old planes it was at the airplane graveyard.
• 12:17
  Emeal Zwayne: My friend Eric Jewell Bean was there.
• 12:21
  Ray Comfort: We had a big suitcase full of money.
• 12:22
  Ray Comfort: Remember that.
• 12:23
  Ray Comfort: So the guy opens the suitcase.
• 12:25
  Emeal Zwayne: We did some cool green screen effects of you skydiving too.
• 12:29
  Emeal Zwayne: I was embarrassed.
• 12:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Whose idea Was that?
• 12:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Dwayne's idea?
• 12:33
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, dwayne's idea is being held up by a couple of guys on my back and shaking about and I had to yell and speak at a camera.
• 12:40
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that's so funny.
• 12:41
  Emeal Zwayne: We were talking about doing the podcast while all of us are skydiving.
• 12:44
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we weren't.
• 12:50
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we weren't, you weren't, we weren't.
• 12:51
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we're not.
• 12:51
  Emeal Zwayne: That's funny because you were actually pretending to be skydiving and talking to the camera.
• 12:55
  Ray Comfort: That was good.
• 12:55
  Ray Comfort: It looked good by the time they'd done it, but when I was doing it it was crazy.
• 12:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, by the way, friends, you could check that out on our YouTube channel and just look up.
• 13:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Why Christianity episode Is it called that?
• 13:08
  Ray Comfort: It is.
• 13:08
  Ray Comfort: I think we took it down.
• 13:10
  Ray Comfort: I'll confirm.
• 13:11
  Ray Comfort: You mean it's gone to Living Waters TV.
• 13:13
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I'm a historian, yeah.
• 13:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Make sure to check that out.
• 13:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Why Christianity booklet, the Living Waters mug and the Evidence Study Bible, all that?
• 13:24
  Emeal Zwayne: That's saying it while skydiving.
• 13:30
  Ray Comfort: I thought you were drowning.
• 13:31
  Ray Comfort: I thought you were under the water.
• 13:32
  Ray Comfort: I thought it was underwater.
• 13:33
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, livingwaterscom is what they were trying to say.
• 13:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that was skydiving All right.
• 13:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Today we're talking about is it unspiritual for Christians to pursue physical health?
• 13:51
  Ray Comfort: Ray obviously thinks it is no thanks for joining us.
• 13:53
  Ray Comfort: That's it.
• 13:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray obviously thinks it is Ray.
• 13:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Why aren't you physically healthy?
• 14:01
  Ray Comfort: Healthy, wealthy and wise.
• 14:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 14:04
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, we should be physically healthy.
• 14:06
  Ray Comfort: All of us should strive to be, because we're the temple of the Holy Spirit.
• 14:09
  Emeal Zwayne: That's it.
• 14:10
  Ray Comfort: Thanks for joining us.
• 14:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, ray.
• 14:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray is should be physically healthy.
• 14:14
  Ray Comfort: All of us should strive to be because we're the temple of the Holy Spirit.
• 14:16
  Ray Comfort: That's it, thanks for joining us.
• 14:19
  Ray Comfort: Thank you, ray.
• 14:19
  Ray Comfort: Ray, is your beard physically in good shape?
• 14:21
  Ray Comfort: Do you ever think about how incredible hairs are?
• 14:23
  Ray Comfort: Hair, yeah, hairs.
• 14:23
  Ray Comfort: How the hair on the eyebrow is different than the hair on the eyelash, or different than the hair on the chin.
• 14:25
  Ray Comfort: The hair on the eyelash grows in a certain direction and then stops.
• 14:30
  Ray Comfort: You don't have to trim your eyelashes every day, it just goes out and then you've got your eyebrows all facing different ways, different hairs with different DNA to tell it what to do.
• 14:41
  Ray Comfort: It's just amazing.
• 14:42
  Ray Comfort: Eyebrows are always there to stop the soap getting in your eyes when you're having a shower.
• 14:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I've often thought that, like yeah, soap getting in your eyes when you're having a shower.
• 14:49
  Emeal Zwayne: I've often thought that, like yeah, what?
• 14:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Really?
• 14:50
  Emeal Zwayne: What is the purpose of eyebrows?
• 14:52
  Emeal Zwayne: I think it's for sweat.
• 14:54
  Ray Comfort: No, it's to keep this shampoo out of your eyes when you shower.
• 14:56
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, the other thing is, the nasal hair has got no function at all.
• 15:02
  Ray Comfort: It's just a haywire.
• 15:04
  Ray Comfort: Have you trained your nasal hairs right?
• 15:06
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what my mustache is Wait, what was it we used to talk about?
• 15:11
  Emeal Zwayne: About growing something out and making it a toupee, or like making it a comb over, or something Well, there was one.
• 15:16
  Ray Comfort: she had beautiful blonde hair from each nostril Flowing along, flowing around.
• 15:27
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, hair is pretty funny.
• 15:28
  Ray Comfort: It just makes me think of God's incredible creative power to even bother to be worried about one hair and where it would grow, what direction it would grow.
• 15:37
  Emeal Zwayne: It's just incredible that reminded me of this guy in the Guinness Book of World Records who held the record for the longest ear hair Ear hair.
• 15:44
  Mark Spence: That's disgusting.
• 15:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, seriously, you've never seen that.
• 15:47
  Emeal Zwayne: No.
• 15:48
  Oscar Navarro: All this talk of hair, you think Eddie Roman's feeling triggered?
• 15:53
  Ray Comfort: That guy was waxing bald.
• 15:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so yeah, but you know, I think, how do we get on to?
• 15:59
  Ray Comfort: that I have no idea.
• 16:00
  Mark Spence: How did we?
• 16:01
  Mark Spence: Let's get off of that.
• 16:02
  Mark Spence: Oh, you asked if your beard was physically fit oh you asked if your beard was physically fit.
• 16:07
  Emeal Zwayne: That's what it was, it is.
• 16:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oscar, go ahead.
• 16:09
  Emeal Zwayne: You were going to say something you know.
• 16:11
  Oscar Navarro: I think, especially in America, the problem isn't so much that there's people who are physically healthy.
• 16:15
  Oscar Navarro: Actually, the bigger problem is that people are not that healthy.
• 16:18
  Oscar Navarro: I was looking up Over 42% of Americans are struggling with obesity.
• 16:22
  Oscar Navarro: 31% are overweight.
• 16:24
  Oscar Navarro: According to the Journal of Mayor Clinic Proceedings, only 2.7% of Americans exhibit four foundational healthy characteristics being sufficiently active, which is categorized as a one hour of day of activity, not even like full-blown working out.
• 16:42
  Oscar Navarro: Going on a walk is categorized as one hour activity.
• 16:44
  Oscar Navarro: Eating a healthy diet.
• 16:46
  Oscar Navarro: Being a non-smoker.
• 16:48
  Oscar Navarro: And having a recommended body fat percentage.
• 16:52
  Ray Comfort: What about alcohol?
• 16:53
  Ray Comfort: Did they mention that?
• 16:54
  Oscar Navarro: They don't mention alcohol in that one.
• 16:55
  Mark Spence: It was written by an alcoholic.
• 16:56
  Mark Spence: That's right.
• 16:58
  Oscar Navarro: So 97% of Americans are failing to meet an ideal, healthy lifestyle.
• 17:06
  Oscar Navarro: Healthiest countries in the world Singapore, italy and Australia.
• 17:09
  Oscar Navarro: On that list, the United States is 33rd.
• 17:12
  Oscar Navarro: Less than 3% can say that they don't smoke, can say they have a nutritional diet.
• 17:18
  Oscar Navarro: Exercise, I'm sorry, 30 minutes five times a week.
• 17:21
  Oscar Navarro: That's what it's considered.
• 17:22
  Oscar Navarro: That's nothing.
• 17:23
  Oscar Navarro: And the BMI body mass index for men should be below 20% and women below 30%.
• 17:28
  Ray Comfort: So 30 minutes is ridiculous.
• 17:31
  Ray Comfort: I do it in a minute and a half.
• 17:33
  Ray Comfort: I pedal on my bike.
• 17:34
  Ray Comfort: That's the exercise cycle on the hardest thing, so I'm just about choking to death at the end of it.
• 17:40
  Ray Comfort: But it's done.
• 17:41
  Ray Comfort: That's all it's getting A minute and a half.
• 17:43
  Ray Comfort: About a minute and a half.
• 17:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, because now you do your electric on your bike so you can't even get exercise there.
• 17:47
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I do pedal.
• 17:48
  Ray Comfort: I think of you abusing me if I don't do some pedaling.
• 17:51
  Ray Comfort: You do two pedals.
• 17:51
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, but Ray, you are like a hummingbird, you're always moving.
• 17:57
  Oscar Navarro: You are a very active person.
• 17:59
  Oscar Navarro: See, that's my wife as well.
• 18:00
  Oscar Navarro: She's always on the move.
• 18:02
  Oscar Navarro: You jog up and down these hallways nonstop.
• 18:05
  Oscar Navarro: The point that I wanted to point out is that most Americans live sedentary lives.
• 18:10
  Oscar Navarro: God created us to be embodied, to have physical bodies, to work, to toil the ground, to hunt our own meat and all that stuff is done for us, and all we do is sit down and do nothing.
• 18:23
  Oscar Navarro: And so, while there's definitely idolatrous things to working out and we'll get into that I think the bigger issue with America is a sedentary life.
• 18:34
  Ray Comfort: I wonder if anyone's ever worked out how many calories you burn each night, because when we wake up in the morning, our bed is a mess.
• 18:42
  Ray Comfort: It's been a wrestling match going on all night.
• 18:45
  Ray Comfort: The sheets are crumpled all over the place and it's everyone seemed to be like.
• 18:49
  Ray Comfort: I wake up with a bed that you don't make.
• 18:51
  Emeal Zwayne: My bed's not like that when I wake up.
• 18:53
  Ray Comfort: That's because your mouth's open.
• 18:54
  Ray Comfort: Maybe it's because you have a hole in your bed.
• 18:56
  Ray Comfort: I burn calories trying to get out of that hole.
• 19:00
  Emeal Zwayne: That's why you're so healthy, right.
• 19:02
  Oscar Navarro: Sue the ladder.
• 19:09
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, rachel and I just went out to dinner with a pastor friend of mine and his wife and he was telling me that he went for a checkup a long time ago and they saw that there was some buildup in his arteries and stuff.
• 19:18
  Emeal Zwayne: And so the doctor said oh, just want to let you know that the first symptom that you have a heart problem is death.
• 19:27
  Emeal Zwayne: That's the first symptom.
• 19:31
  Emeal Zwayne: He's like wait what?
• 19:33
  Ray Comfort: That cure smoking too, by the way.
• 19:35
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 19:36
  Emeal Zwayne: So anyway, he went to another doctor and he's like, hey, this guy kind of scared me first.
• 19:41
  Emeal Zwayne: He's like, no, that's not right.
• 19:43
  Emeal Zwayne: He said here's why he said that Because he's an undertaker.
• 19:47
  Emeal Zwayne: No he said.
• 19:57
  Emeal Zwayne: The reason why he said that is because that really is the first symptom for people who are sedentary, for people who don't move.
• 20:00
  Emeal Zwayne: He said because when you don't move you don't get any symptoms because your heart's not working.
• 20:02
  Emeal Zwayne: But when you're someone who's exercising and who's moving around, if there's things clogged and you have a problem, you'll feel it, you'll know, you'll get the symptoms.
• 20:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And I thought that was yeah, that was really really big and I love what you said, oscar, as it relates to Ray, yeah, it's not necessarily that you're doing per se like focused exercise, but you move around.
• 20:23
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys remember, was it the animation WALL-E?
• 20:29
  Mark Spence: WALL-E.
• 20:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Where people were sitting and floating.
• 20:32
  Emeal Zwayne: It was futuristic.
• 20:33
  Emeal Zwayne: People were sitting in floating chairs and they pressed buttons and it's stick food like.
• 20:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Create food Sounds pretty good and they're all obese.
• 20:44
  Emeal Zwayne: They can't walk.
• 20:45
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, seriously, do you get that in the animal kingdom?
• 20:47
  Ray Comfort: Remember, years ago there was a video that came out that showed pictures of giraffes that were obese.
• 20:52
  Ray Comfort: It was just a joke, because you don't see any of the animals like that.
• 20:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's true.
• 20:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you know, human beings didn't really used to be like that, because you had to walk everywhere.
• 21:01
  Emeal Zwayne: You had to gather, you had to move, you had to hunt.
• 21:02
  Emeal Zwayne: You, you had to move, you had to hunt, you had to.
• 21:04
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, it was all and it was physical labor and moving.
• 21:08
  Emeal Zwayne: But now you don't even have to look, you don't even have to leave your house to stay alive.
• 21:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Literally, If you have the money, you just order Uber Eats and you order you know, whatever all these things and they'll deliver door dash.
• 21:22
  Ray Comfort: Do they bring them to the door or do they bring them to your lazy boy?
• 21:24
  Ray Comfort: I want to know they feed it to you.
• 21:26
  Emeal Zwayne: They chew it.
• 21:27
  Emeal Zwayne: They chew it for you.
• 21:28
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a straw, it's like mama bird.
• 21:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Mama birds yeah, they feed you, but no, but you guys know what I mean.
• 21:36
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like.
• 21:36
  Emeal Zwayne: This is where we live.
• 21:38
  Emeal Zwayne: But to the point that we're trying to talk about here today is that, you know, Rachel and I were at an event in Tennessee.
• 21:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I was out there speaking and then there was this big convention and one of the guys that was evidently the leader of this group.
• 21:56
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, he was massive, he was very, very big.
• 22:02
  Ray Comfort: While you're whispering, you think he's listening.
• 22:03
  Ray Comfort: He was massive.
• 22:06
  Emeal Zwayne: What he's massive what.
• 22:08
  Ray Comfort: He's coming through the door.
• 22:13
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys are terrible man, but you know it made me think that a lot of times there's just neglect.
• 22:22
  Emeal Zwayne: And look, guys, we're joking and being funny.
• 22:24
  Emeal Zwayne: We want to be sensitive.
• 22:25
  Emeal Zwayne: We know that there are people listening that do struggle with their weight and some of them you know there are there could be some physiological issues why that's harder for them to lose weight.
• 22:37
  Emeal Zwayne: We don't want to make fun of anyone, laugh at anyone, and it's not even just about weight, because someone can be thin and be unhealthy, you know, because you know so.
• 22:48
  Emeal Zwayne: But oftentimes I think the reason why I gave that example is I think that sometimes people have this perception that hey, that doesn't matter, it's almost like a form of Gnosticism.
• 22:58
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, the Gnostics were kind of like the body doesn't matter, but in the sense of like indulging in, you know, sexual immorality and stuff like that.
• 23:06
  Emeal Zwayne: But there is that kind of dynamic, don't you think, oscar, where it's like, oh, whatever, right.
• 23:11
  Ray Comfort: I have empathy with people who are overweight, because I know there's a monster that lives in me that wants to eat 24 hours a day, and I'm not joking.
• 23:17
  Ray Comfort: I can wake up in the middle of the night, go downstairs and have a hamburger, no problem.
• 23:22
  Ray Comfort: Some people can't eat at night.
• 23:23
  Ray Comfort: I can eat at night, I can eat any time, almost eat anything.
• 23:32
  Ray Comfort: So there's this monster that's insatiable and one thing I've found that really helps.
• 23:34
  Ray Comfort: It's going to sound strange, but it's.
• 23:35
  Ray Comfort: I call an inch milkshake.
• 23:35
  Ray Comfort: I just put an inch of whole milk in a thing and I just go and put some what's it called monk fruit monk fruit.
• 23:39
  Oscar Navarro: Oh yeah, I'm true.
• 23:40
  Oscar Navarro: Oh yeah, got some protein it's really good.
• 23:42
  Ray Comfort: It's no calories.
• 23:43
  Ray Comfort: Just put that in and that fluffs up to five inches of milkshake and it tastes nice and sweet and that fills me up for about an hour hour and a half.
• 23:51
  Ray Comfort: It keeps that monster down.
• 23:52
  Ray Comfort: It's really helpful.
• 23:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you know I mentioned on a previous podcast that I'm intermittent fasting right now and you know what helps me.
• 23:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I drink a cup of tea and that holds me over.
• 24:02
  Emeal Zwayne: The heat of the water fills your stomach.
• 24:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I put three pounds of honey, but hey, who's counting?
• 24:16
  Oscar Navarro: I love that you were careful to bring up.
• 24:17
  Oscar Navarro: You know we're not trying to shame anybody and if you notice the data that I was reading, it had nothing to do with your physical appearance.
• 24:21
  Oscar Navarro: It had everything to do with health, right, health of your heart, the health of your body, being able to walk 30 minutes a day.
• 24:34
  Oscar Navarro: The goal here isn't that you appear physically a certain way.
• 24:36
  Oscar Navarro: The point is the healthiness of your body, and I a hundred percent agree with you, ez, that there is this, that Gnosticism tends to creep into Christianity, the theology of Gnosticism.
• 24:45
  Oscar Navarro: And you're absolutely right.
• 24:46
  Oscar Navarro: Gnosticism looks at the body or the human experience and thinks well, my body doesn't mean anything, it's just like this machine that's delivering my soul into eternity.
• 24:57
  Oscar Navarro: So what difference does it make?
• 24:59
  Oscar Navarro: That is a very Gnostic view of looking at yourself and the world around you.
• 25:04
  Oscar Navarro: God made us to be physical, spiritual and mental, psychological, and I love the way many theologians talk about it.
• 25:14
  Oscar Navarro: They look at it as being embodied.
• 25:16
  Oscar Navarro: To be embodied is to look at holistically all three of those things.
• 25:22
  Oscar Navarro: Am I taking care of my body to the glory of God?
• 25:25
  Oscar Navarro: Am I taking care of my mind to the glory of God?
• 25:26
  Oscar Navarro: Am I taking care of my mind to the glory of God.
• 25:29
  Oscar Navarro: Am I taking care of my soul to the glory of God?
• 25:33
  Oscar Navarro: And I think many Christians understand the soul portion, the devotions, the quiet time, the meditation, the prayer.
• 25:38
  Oscar Navarro: They often don't think about the mind, the reading you know, reading a good and hard book, setting goals, and that nature and then of course, the physical.
• 25:49
  Oscar Navarro: That is a part of our walk with the Lord and it doesn't need to look at.
• 25:53
  Oscar Navarro: You know, I love going to the gym.
• 25:54
  Oscar Navarro: That's something.
• 25:55
  Oscar Navarro: It's a hobby of mine.
• 25:56
  Oscar Navarro: I spend time there, I make space for it.
• 25:58
  Oscar Navarro: You don't have to do that.
• 26:00
  Oscar Navarro: Sometimes just being physical could be forcing yourself like we've been practicing this in my own home forcing ourselves to be uncomfortable.
• 26:08
  Oscar Navarro: What does that mean?
• 26:09
  Oscar Navarro: It means taking the stairs instead of the escalator.
• 26:12
  Oscar Navarro: It means walking to a place instead of driving place.
• 26:14
  Oscar Navarro: It means parking a far away spot rather than the close up spot.
• 26:17
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, little we like in our home.
• 26:19
  Oscar Navarro: This year we're practicing little things like that.
• 26:21
  Oscar Navarro: Just let's just make ourselves a little more uncomfortable so that we have to put in a little bit more physical work in that particular situation.
• 26:28
  Ray Comfort: Speaking of walking the stairs, let me ask you guys a question, easy when you go downstairs, do you hold on to the rail?
• 26:33
  Ray Comfort: Uh, usually, yeah.
• 26:35
  Ray Comfort: What about you, oscar?
• 26:36
  Oscar Navarro: I don't know, I've not noticed.
• 26:37
  Oscar Navarro: I'm not sure you don't know.
• 26:38
  Ray Comfort: You don't know what your body does.
• 26:39
  Ray Comfort: I don't know, yeah.
• 26:40
  Mark Spence: Maybe I do.
• 26:41
  Mark Spence: What about you, Mark?
• 26:41
  Mark Spence: No?
• 26:42
  Ray Comfort: No.
• 26:42
  Ray Comfort: Do you know how many people die each year falling downstairs in the US?
• 26:47
  Ray Comfort: Let me guess Great 12,000?
• 26:52
  Ray Comfort: 12,.
• 26:52
  Ray Comfort: Statistics are so cold and meaningless so I just want to share a little thought.
• 26:57
  Ray Comfort: This young lady, young mother, goes upstairs she wants to do some dusting, carries a duster in one hand, she carries coffee in the other, does the dusting On the way down she grabs a book she wants to read before the kids get home.
• 27:07
  Ray Comfort: She's got a book in one hand, she's got a duster in her hand, she doesn't bother holding the rail going down.
• 27:13
  Ray Comfort: She falls, she dies.
• 27:15
  Ray Comfort: Kids don't have a mother, two kids that come home and he's lost his precious wife.
• 27:21
  Ray Comfort: Why?
• 27:21
  Ray Comfort: Because of an overconfidence.
• 27:23
  Ray Comfort: And I've asked a lot of people when I'm talking that's how I begin a witnessing session lately on video.
• 27:30
  Ray Comfort: Do you hold the stairs?
• 27:31
  Ray Comfort: No, why not?
• 27:32
  Ray Comfort: I don't need to.
• 27:33
  Ray Comfort: I've got good balance.
• 27:34
  Ray Comfort: All it takes is one little slip.
• 27:36
  Ray Comfort: I fell down our stairs about three years ago.
• 27:38
  Ray Comfort: Guys, this sounds weird, but I run upstairs and I've always ran downstairs.
• 27:45
  Ray Comfort: That sounds really dumb, but I've done it since I was a teenager or younger.
• 27:49
  Ray Comfort: I used to drive my dad nuts because I'd leap four stairs at a time and go boom on the end and dad would say stop that.
• 27:57
  Ray Comfort: And I always remember that surprise because I and I've always.
• 28:01
  Ray Comfort: I've kept that habit up until three years ago, just leaping downstairs at my age, I messed up three stairs up and I've never felt such violence in my life.
• 28:11
  Ray Comfort: You just don't know how harsh and unforgiving, merciless gravity is until you violate it.
• 28:16
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, so if you fall down a whole set of stairs, you're gonna going to hit your skull when you go down, when you hit the bottom, it's going to kill you.
• 28:22
  Ray Comfort: So think of 12,000 bodies piled up, moms and dads.
• 28:28
  Mark Spence: Well, I heard it was 20,000 bodies of people who touch the handrail and get a disease from germs on the rail.
• 28:33
  Ray Comfort: And the reason I brought this up is because Mark and I came down the stairs.
• 28:36
  Ray Comfort: I was in front of him this morning.
• 28:42
  Ray Comfort: He was carrying a laptop in one hand, coffee in the other, and he didn't hold onto the rail and one of our staff fell down our stairs and almost killed herself years ago.
• 28:47
  Ray Comfort: Well, I planned on if I was falling, I was going to fall into you and you were going to yeah because I'm such a bouncy fellow, but yeah, so I think it's part of the temple of the Holy Spirit is respecting the life that God gave him, and don't do dumb things like I did leaping downstairs.
• 29:01
  Ray Comfort: Just take it easy.
• 29:02
  Ray Comfort: Grab that rail, realize your own frailty because we're about dust.
• 29:05
  Ray Comfort: One little slip and you never see your kids again.
• 29:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know, and that's really good.
• 29:12
  Emeal Zwayne: And I think that you know motive is really important to examine when you're talking about this.
• 29:18
  Emeal Zwayne: You know motive is really important to examine when you're talking about this.
• 29:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Look, some people are physically exercising sinfully and the reason for that is because their motive is their appearance and you know their image and their reputation in a fleshly worldly kind of a sense, you know.
• 29:38
  Emeal Zwayne: So there's nothing wrong with wanting to look right.
• 29:41
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, I think part of that could be a good witness.
• 29:43
  Emeal Zwayne: I think that you know we do need to think about that, but there has to be that motive as well of Lord, I want to be at peak performance, to have impact for your glory in this world, and that that includes, I mean, you know, when you're physically healthy, you are also mentally healthy.
• 30:04
  Emeal Zwayne: It affects your mind, your thinking, your clarity, your energy level.
• 30:09
  Emeal Zwayne: They're all connected.
• 30:10
  Mark Spence: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And you know there has to be that, that thought and that consideration too, of your, your children and your grandchildren being able to to be in a place where you can affect them and impact them, you know.
• 30:24
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, they are all absolutely fit.
• 30:26
  Oscar Navarro: They're, they're connected, they're like strings together.
• 30:29
  Oscar Navarro: Often, if you're, you know, if, if you were experiencing anxiety and depression, um, it'll be recommended for you to go out and get physical activity, um, and so all those things are interconnected together.
• 30:41
  Oscar Navarro: And I would add to that, not only for your kids, for your grandkids, but I would say for men.
• 30:46
  Oscar Navarro: I think we have an opportunity to be protectors of our family, like the idea that I can.
• 30:55
  Oscar Navarro: You know, there's guys that I know that can't like run anymore, like not because there's some sort of injury.
• 31:02
  Oscar Navarro: They just wins.
• 31:03
  Oscar Navarro: The last time they had a full blown sprint, you know they would be exhausted.
• 31:06
  Oscar Navarro: And so the fact that you can run, that you can protect, and you don't need to be a big, large person to do that, like I'm not I'm not the biggest person in the world, but the physical activity gives you the confidence to be the person your wife and children need you to be in playful moments and in really important moments as well.
• 31:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen, yeah, all of that you know is good and key, and I think sometimes people will point to 1 Timothy, 4, 8, for bodily exercises profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come.
• 31:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I think there are a number of people that misinterpret that as, oh, bodily exercise doesn't matter.
• 31:46
  Ray Comfort: No, AJV's caused that.
• 31:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Has it.
• 31:49
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it says, bodily exercise profits little.
• 31:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, right here it says exercise profits a little right.
• 31:55
  Ray Comfort: Oh, they drop in the word a little.
• 31:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, yeah, a little, but yeah.
• 31:59
  Emeal Zwayne: So there's this perception.
• 32:01
  Emeal Zwayne: But no, paul is making the contrast that, in comparison to the physical, the spiritual is way more important, of course, but he's indicating there's profit in it.
• 32:12
  Emeal Zwayne: That's truth, of course.
• 32:13
  Emeal Zwayne: It's a known thing.
• 32:13
  Emeal Zwayne: So we have to be careful in taking verses like that and going off in a wrong direction.
• 32:21
  Emeal Zwayne: But I've noticed a difference in my own life from the seasons when I am being physically active and I'm not, and it really started to hit me as I had grandkids.
• 32:30
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm putting them on my shoulder and I'm running, or shoulders running around with them and stuff Running up the stairs oh boy running up the stairs, yeah.
• 32:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Who up the stairs?
• 32:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy Running up the stairs, yeah.
• 32:41
  Ray Comfort: Who would run upstairs?
• 32:42
  Ray Comfort: Who wouldn't do?
• 32:43
  Emeal Zwayne: that.
• 32:43
  Emeal Zwayne: But you know, I started to think.
• 32:46
  Emeal Zwayne: It really started to make me think.
• 32:47
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, I've always been relatively physically fit, but it really took it to another level when I had grandkids.
• 32:52
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, because we get busy, we travel, there are times when it's more difficult to stay physically fit, but it just kind of highlighted it for me and made me realize, you know, this is important.
• 33:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to be able to run with my grandkids, I want to be able to play with them, engage them.
• 33:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Why don't?
• 33:08
  Ray Comfort: they have a flight in a great big like a jumbo jet with all like a gym where everybody, instead of sitting there eating all the time, they're working out for five hours.
• 33:17
  Emeal Zwayne: An Xer flight, dropping the weight just straight through.
• 33:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Stop that, yeah, yeah.
• 33:23
  Emeal Zwayne: So I was looking at some benefits of regular physical exercise, and this is from the Mayo Clinic website, and one is exercise controls weight, of course, and you know, when we talk about weight, we talk about it from the perspective of you know what it can do to you physically, you know, and how it can strain your heart and how it can, you know, affect you know a whole bunch of other physical factors and I think we've talked about this before and we were, I think, right to do it.
• 33:56
  Emeal Zwayne: We talked about gluttony and that is a problem in America, you know, and it's one of those sins and it is a sin that Christians don't want to talk about because it's uncomfortable, you know, and some, I think, talk about it inappropriately and in a demeaning way.
• 34:11
  Emeal Zwayne: But gluttony can be a problem and I encourage believers to examine their hearts, you know, to say look, scripture is clear on this being a sin when we overindulge and we're not demonstrating self-control.
• 34:24
  Ray Comfort: Do you think the gluttony diet is a good one?
• 34:26
  Ray Comfort: The what Gluttony diet.
• 34:29
  Ray Comfort: Gluttony free Gluttony free diet.
• 34:31
  Ray Comfort: Gluttony yeah.
• 34:33
  Emeal Zwayne: The glutenite?
• 34:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so, but but I mean, oscar, don't you agree that like that is because we have such abundance?
• 34:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Like you know, we've been at third world countries where that's not an issue, because it's not an option, people just don't do it.
• 34:46
  Emeal Zwayne: One meal a day in a lot of countries is the norm.
• 34:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Oscar Navarro: Gluttony and um, now I'm forgetting, but gluttony and one other center, the two forgotten sins in America.
• 34:56
  Oscar Navarro: Cause it's?
• 34:57
  Oscar Navarro: We're so used to it, we have an abundance, we think we deserve it all.
• 35:01
  Oscar Navarro: I mean the reality that you can go, you know the reality that you're thinking of in temperance potentially no, um, I'll remember it in a minute, but the fact that I mean you think about, like the amount of food that you normally get in a serving, the fact that we can supersize things, you know like there's no reason why you need 40 ounces.
• 35:18
  Ray Comfort: I'm getting hungry Some people get double, double, double, doubles.
• 35:22
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, four by four Protein style right Once again, because now I'm thinking about the person who's you know driving their car and they're feeling, they know they're not healthy.
• 35:34
  Oscar Navarro: Again, I want to focus less on the physical and more on just the health aspect and what you can do.
• 35:41
  Oscar Navarro: My encouragement to anybody out there that's like okay, yeah, I see myself as being not a good steward of my body.
• 35:49
  Oscar Navarro: What do I do?
• 35:51
  Oscar Navarro: I would encourage you to start small.
• 35:52
  Oscar Navarro: Start with like a morning walk before breakfast.
• 35:55
  Oscar Navarro: You know, 20, 30 minute morning walk.
• 35:56
  Oscar Navarro: And the other thing, too is, if you're married and you have a spouse, 30 minute morning walk.
• 35:58
  Oscar Navarro: And the other thing, too is, if you're married and you have a spouse, invite them to do that with you, cause it's always more fun and easy.
• 36:04
  Oscar Navarro: I mean, imagine the great thing about that is that you stack good habits on top of each other.
• 36:08
  Oscar Navarro: Now you're on a morning walk 20, 30 minutes before you eat breakfast with your spouse or your dog.
• 36:14
  Oscar Navarro: You get to talk, you get to pray, you get to plan out your day.
• 36:18
  Oscar Navarro: It starts with little things like that go such a long way in your health.
• 36:23
  Ray Comfort: Especially if you're stuck in a car on a freeway every day.
• 36:25
  Ray Comfort: That sort of thing.
• 36:26
  Ray Comfort: Remember Fred Flintstone's car.
• 36:28
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, we need those we need those again.
• 36:31
  Emeal Zwayne: That would be a cool kind of car for sure.
• 36:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oscar, I'm glad you brought up walking.
• 36:36
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, that was one of the things I was going to share.
• 36:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Rachel and I love to walk together.
• 36:40
  Emeal Zwayne: When we were in Hawaii for our 28th anniversary, we did 48 miles.
• 36:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that's awesome.
• 36:44
  Ray Comfort: Every morning before breakfast 48 miles every day.
• 36:48
  Emeal Zwayne: No, but a total of 48 miles.
• 36:50
  Emeal Zwayne: We hiked up Diamond Head.
• 36:52
  Emeal Zwayne: We went to Manoa Falls I mean, we walked the beach, it was awesome and Noah Falls I mean we walked the beach, it was awesome.
• 37:00
  Emeal Zwayne: And we like to walk around home.
• 37:01
  Emeal Zwayne: So yesterday we took a four-mile walk in the morning and this morning I texted Rachel.
• 37:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I said I wish I could walk with you every morning.
• 37:06
  Emeal Zwayne: You're my favorite person on the planet to fellowship with, and because that's what we did, we fellowship we talked a four-mile walk.
• 37:13
  Emeal Zwayne: We were just talking about our kids and what the Lord's doing in our lives and what you know what, what things we want to do.
• 37:19
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, it was just awesome and I love that.
• 37:22
  Emeal Zwayne: And there's something I do in my life.
• 37:23
  Emeal Zwayne: I call it I do this while I do that and I love it.
• 37:26
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, I'm listening to the word as I'm driving to work.
• 37:28
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, um, I'm, uh, you know, building my house as I brush my teeth.
• 37:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray does everything while he does something else.
• 37:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Anyway, ray, you still writing scripture on your bathroom shower wall.
• 37:45
  Ray Comfort: Yes, it's not just scriptures, ideas, it's pencil.
• 37:50
  Emeal Zwayne: So anyway, yeah, walking is awesome, especially, like you said, when you can do it with someone.
• 37:54
  Ray Comfort: I'm glad you mentioned showers.
• 37:55
  Ray Comfort: I'm going to show how paranoid I am.
• 37:57
  Ray Comfort: A lot of people die in the shower also, oh no.
• 37:59
  Ray Comfort: And so it's always good to have a rubber mat because you're standing on a soapy surface, and I've heard of people the sheriff of Los Angeles died in the shower, fell over, hit his head and he died.
• 38:11
  Ray Comfort: I've heard a movie star in England died falling over in the shower because they're standing on soap.
• 38:16
  Ray Comfort: So it's good to have a rail and things like these little things that are just part of looking after your body.
• 38:22
  Oscar Navarro: I'm going to buy you a helmet Helmet.
• 38:23
  Oscar Navarro: I'm going to buy you one, lynn.
• 38:24
  Ray Comfort: Copeland and her husband put on motorcycle helmets or bike helmets during a tornado recently.
• 38:30
  Ray Comfort: Really, yeah.
• 38:31
  Ray Comfort: They went into their closet with motorcycle helmets on.
• 38:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Can you tell us where?
• 38:36
  Emeal Zwayne: You buy your bubble wrap pants and shirts Closet with motorcycle helmets on.
• 38:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Can you tell us where you buy your bubble wrap pants and shirts?
• 38:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray's just going to bubble wrap himself, so nothing happens to him.
• 38:44
  Ray Comfort: That's very dangerous, that stuff.
• 38:46
  Emeal Zwayne: You can die from bubble wrap.
• 38:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it'll kill you.
• 38:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Another health benefit of exercise says exercise combats health conditions and diseases.
• 38:55
  Emeal Zwayne: It says regular exercise helps prevent or manage many health problems and concerns, including stroke, metabolic syndrome, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, depression, anxiety, many types of cancer, arthritis, falls.
• 39:07
  Emeal Zwayne: You know depression is a good one to highlight that exercise helps with.
• 39:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Whenever someone tells me they're really struggling with depression, I say how are you eating and are you exercising?
• 39:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Because that stress relief, you know that comes from it, man, I love.
• 39:21
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, when I'm on my normal gym routine, I'm doing 30 minutes of cardio on the basketball court, I do 15 minutes of jump shots and a circuit cause there are six hoops in the court, so I just go around doing jump shots and once I finished, I immediately transitioned to 15 minutes of layups and by the time I'm done, once I finish, I immediately transition to 15 minutes of layups.
• 39:39
  Emeal Zwayne: By the time I'm done, 30 minutes of active, strenuous, nonstop.
• 39:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Man, I'm sweating my heart out.
• 39:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I feel so alive.
• 39:48
  Emeal Zwayne: The endorphins kick in.
• 39:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh man, it's the best.
• 39:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and it helps alleviate depression.
• 39:52
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, if I'm stressed in my chest, you can feel the stress.
• 39:55
  Ray Comfort: I can get rid of it in two minutes on that bike.
• 39:58
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I'm really really fast I can't emphasize that enough.
• 40:02
  Oscar Navarro: I, I do.
• 40:02
  Oscar Navarro: I work out about an hour, an hour and a half a day, six days a week, and, um, it's the.
• 40:08
  Oscar Navarro: The only two ways that I can turn my brain off, um is by reading and by working out, and so what I'm saying here is that my weightlifting, my working out, is a form of not just physical therapy, but like spiritual and mental therapy, because I can turn my brain off and focus on the Lord when I'm reading and when I'm working out, and so, to your point, it's a great way to exercise anxiety and depression out of your body.
• 40:36
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, and you think of how much Jesus would have walked with his disciples?
• 40:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, yeah, a lot.
• 40:42
  Mark Spence: Mark you were going to say.
• 40:42
  Mark Spence: There's an interesting scripture found in 3 John, verse 2.
• 40:47
  Mark Spence: It says I pray that you may enjoy good health, that all may go well with you even as your soul is getting along well, that there is a bedfellow to spiritual health and that is physical health.
• 40:59
  Mark Spence: Right, if you want to be spiritually fit to the best degree, then really take care of your physical body as well, that you'll be able to do more things, you'll be able to enjoy the things that God has given us.
• 41:12
  Mark Spence: I was reading a commentary not too long ago.
• 41:15
  Mark Spence: It says obviously God is more interested in our spiritual health than our physical well-being, but he does want us to be physically healthy as well.
• 41:22
  Mark Spence: And on the other hand, disease is a result of Adam's sin, and even the most righteous may suffer.
• 41:27
  Mark Spence: After all, some are appointed to suffer for his namesake.
• 41:30
  Mark Spence: I mean, job was righteous, but God allowed him to suffer disease and hardship.
• 41:33
  Mark Spence: Or, as JC Ryle said you know, health is a good thing, but sickness is far better if it leads us to God.
• 41:41
  Mark Spence: So we do want to be as healthy as we possibly can and do all that we can.
• 41:45
  Mark Spence: I like what Randy Smith said.
• 41:47
  Mark Spence: I found this from gracequotesorg.
• 41:50
  Mark Spence: He said, men, you will never master the powerful desire for lust if you cannot put down the bag of Doritos.
• 41:56
  Mark Spence: Listen, and that goes across the board, you know, to master the powerful desire of fill in the blank right.
• 42:05
  Mark Spence: If we cannot put down the Dorito bag, and I love Doritos.
• 42:08
  Mark Spence: I just I don't buy them, but I do.
• 42:10
  Mark Spence: I absolutely love them.
• 42:11
  Mark Spence: And I do want to be temperate when it comes to anything physically, anything physical, you know.
• 42:19
  Mark Spence: So I can tell my body that my spirit is in charge.
• 42:22
  Mark Spence: And there's the beauty of fasting when we see when Jesus came down from the Mount of Transfiguration, we see that there was a demon-possessed individual and the demon was only going to be cast out through prayer and fasting.
• 42:34
  Mark Spence: And he's not saying you know, you need to go pray now and you need to go fast now.
• 42:37
  Mark Spence: No, the idea is, you should be prayed up, you should be fasted up, you should be physically fit.
• 42:41
  Mark Spence: You know, imagine, you know, hey, we want to go share the gospel in this arena, in this event, this venue, but you kind of need to be physically fit to go into that area because you need to, you know, walk into that area.
• 42:52
  Mark Spence: There's no transportation into that area.
• 42:54
  Mark Spence: So there is the desire, the need to be physically fit in order to spiritually fulfill different things that God is maybe calling us to do.
• 43:03
  Mark Spence: And one person said you know, to many of us we confine our exercise to jumping to conclusions we run up bills, we stretch the truth, we bend over backwards, we lie down on the job and we sidestep responsibility.
• 43:17
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, mark, please send me that, that's really good.
• 43:19
  Mark Spence: We need to change that right.
• 43:20
  Mark Spence: We need to be physically fit and spiritually fit, without putting an overemphasis on the physical fit, but let's put an overemphasis on the spiritual fit.
• 43:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen, oh, that's so good.
• 43:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know, balance, right Balance in our lives, and recognizing, too, like, hey, the gym is actually a great fishing hole.
• 43:39
  Emeal Zwayne: You know I, I've gotten the chance to share the gospel in the sauna and the parking lot.
• 43:44
  Emeal Zwayne: And you know, amidst the weights you just meet people, especially regulars, you know, you get to know them and it's an opportunity for evangelism, you know.
• 43:53
  Oscar Navarro: What's really cool is, uh, so a friend of mine, um, who I work out with, he's a.
• 43:58
  Oscar Navarro: He's a personal trainer and he got saved about a year and a half ago, amazing story.
• 44:02
  Oscar Navarro: He's a part of this gym where it's only personal trainers or professional bodybuilders, and so whenever I'm working out with them, we're always talking about the gospel.
• 44:13
  Oscar Navarro: We're always talking about it.
• 44:14
  Oscar Navarro: We're having a mini Bible study in the middle of our workouts and other guys because it's a smaller gym, they'll start having a conversation with us, and just the other day he sent me a text and was like hey, some of the guys at the gym want to start a Bible study.
• 44:29
  Oscar Navarro: Would you be down to lead us?
• 44:30
  Oscar Navarro: I'm like dude, absolutely so they're literally in the middle of the gym at two o'clock.
• 44:35
  Oscar Navarro: We're trying to figure out when, probably on a Saturday we in the middle of the gym at two o'clock, we're trying to figure out when, probably on a Saturday, we are going to start having Bible studies.
• 44:42
  Oscar Navarro: That's a good call.
• 44:43
  Oscar Navarro: Laying aside every weight, yes, oh, I like that.
• 44:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, that's good, yeah, so yeah, I mean again exercise improves mood.
• 44:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Exercise boosts energy.
• 44:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Exercise promotes better sleep.
• 44:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Exercise puts the spark back into your personal intimacy life.
• 44:58
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll skip that one Exercise.
• 45:00
  Emeal Zwayne: You just said it, I didn't want to get into detail.
• 45:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I didn't even want to stop and make reference to it.
• 45:05
  Emeal Zwayne: Exercise can be fun and social, so there's at least one motivator in there for you brothers.
• 45:12
  Emeal Zwayne: But anyway, you know it's.
• 45:15
  Emeal Zwayne: There are so many different benefits, benefits and I would say that we shouldn't compartmentalize, we should integrate and recognize that physical health is a part of spiritual health, amen.
• 45:30
  Emeal Zwayne: And so the answer to the question that we started with is no, it's not unspiritual to pursue physical health.
• 45:37
  Emeal Zwayne: It's good.
• 45:37
  Emeal Zwayne: This is the temple of the Holy Spirit, like Ray said, and you know even Paul when he's talking about husbands loving their wives as their own body.
• 45:46
  Emeal Zwayne: But no one ever hated his own body but nourishes and cherishes it.
• 45:50
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, I mean, that's an indicator that we have.
• 45:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I often see you kissing your hand.
• 45:55
  Ray Comfort: What do you mean?
• 45:58
  Emeal Zwayne: What do you mean?
• 45:59
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, but you know it's a biblical indicator that physical health is natural for us.
• 46:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, we have a natural bent toward doing it, but some of us neglect it because, yeah, it is easier to just sit around, be sedentary, not move, not, you know, do anything.
• 46:17
  Emeal Zwayne: And we think we're being spiritual because we're just sitting on the couch watching videos, listening to anything.
• 46:19
  Emeal Zwayne: And we think we're being spiritual because we're just sitting on the couch watching videos, listening to things, reading the Bible.
• 46:23
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, you can do that sometimes while you exercise as well.
• 46:25
  Emeal Zwayne: There you have it, friends.
• 46:28
  Emeal Zwayne: We hope you've been encouraged to do something, do something, do something.
• 46:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Was that Churchill?
• 46:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Do something, do something?
• 46:37
  Emeal Zwayne: No, that's.
• 46:38
  Ray Comfort: Spurgeon.
• 46:39
  Ray Comfort: No, that's Spurgeon.
• 46:40
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, ray's showing us a new tract while we do the podcast, because he's so excited to do it right now.
• 46:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and actually that tract, we won't get into details yet, but it includes something physical, a sport.
• 46:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, it does.
• 46:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, all right, friends, there you have it.
• 46:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Thanks for listening today.
• 46:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't forget why.
• 46:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Christianity Booklet right, solving Life's Most Important Questions, and the Living Waters Evidence Study Bible on livingwaterscom podcast, at livingwaterscom, with your thoughts, and don't forget to subscribe and like and share.
• 47:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us, friends.
• 47:10
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the Living Waters Podcast, where still, after all these years, we have no idea what Ray is doing.
• 47:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Whoa, is that my stomach?
• 47:24
  Emeal Zwayne: It was mine.
• 47:26
  Ray Comfort: What.
• 47:27
  Emeal Zwayne: It came out, it came and spread into the microphone.
• 47:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow.
• 47:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, friends.