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- 0:07Speaker 1: Boston Stand, stock Stand, Bostan Boston.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Bostan, Boston, bostapot Stand, The Boston Standard.
- 1:14Speaker 3: What's up every one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and
- 1:16Speaker 3: Tambo back for another edition of the Monday night football Showdown.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Show Here on the Ship at Nation YouTube station. Got
- 1:22Speaker 3: my guys with me as always, Hoopster and Title bring
- 1:25Speaker 3: them in in a second. Gonna be talking all things
- 1:27Speaker 3: Atlanta at Philly. We got ownership. We're gonna break it
- 1:30Speaker 3: down from the captain position. We're gonna talk about all
- 1:33Speaker 3: the stuff when it comes to flex, how you set
- 1:35Speaker 3: up your rosters. A lot of group think tonight, but Hoop,
- 1:38Speaker 3: I'll bring you in first. We had a pretty good
- 1:40Speaker 3: week two over at the Nation. From golf in the
- 1:42Speaker 3: Showdown streets, we had MMA big winners on Saturday Sunday,
- 1:45Speaker 3: A lot of people posting in the chat, but pretty
- 1:47Speaker 3: good week overall. I didn't have the best week. I
- 1:49Speaker 3: think you said you didn't, but that's the benefit of
- 1:52Speaker 3: just seeing the others and surrounding ourselves with those people.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Lots of good winners out there.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean in the tournament strace yesterday it was
- 2:00Speaker 4: Kamara or no cash. I mean the dude win, I guess.
- 2:03Speaker 4: I mean, you could have done well without him. Mean,
- 2:05Speaker 4: there's other guys that went on. He wasn't all that
- 2:07Speaker 4: did well and he wasn't all that highly owned. So
- 2:09Speaker 4: but to win the big stuff you needed Alvin Kamara.
- 2:11Speaker 4: I had some on DraftKings, not enough. He was only
- 2:15Speaker 4: like four or five percent owned. I think I had
- 2:18Speaker 4: like eight nine percent in my one fifty, and I
- 2:21Speaker 4: like faded him on FanDuel. So that definitely didn't work
- 2:24Speaker 4: out all that well. But it was an interesting week.
- 2:27Speaker 4: I mean, you saw Marvin Harrison Junior after completely busting,
- 2:30Speaker 4: and he saw all the analytical guys on there, Oh
- 2:34Speaker 4: he's no separation from the cornerbacks, like he's gonna be
- 2:38Speaker 4: a bust, and then he just freaking goes off in
- 2:40Speaker 4: the first quarter like no one guarding him, like all
- 2:43Speaker 4: the separation in the world. Went from no separation to
- 2:46Speaker 4: a ton of separation. Apparently that's why some of the
- 2:48Speaker 4: statistics and numbers and stuff just kind of that's part
- 2:51Speaker 4: of the reason it Like it drives me nuts. I mean,
- 2:54Speaker 4: people are literally jerking off to the fact that he
- 2:57Speaker 4: could not separate from the cornerbacks in week one and
- 3:00Speaker 4: then he just like nukes the entire slide. So good.
- 3:03Speaker 4: Good to see that. I mean, I like seeing young
- 3:05Speaker 4: guys coming to the league and get the job done.
- 3:07Speaker 4: Shit on Kyler Murray a lot. I mean, I really
- 3:10Speaker 4: do he looks he look pretty good. Yeah, he had
- 3:12Speaker 4: himself a good game. But I think the overarching issue
- 3:16Speaker 4: there is that I don't think the Rams are very
- 3:18Speaker 4: good and they continue to see the injuries pile up
- 3:21Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. But a lot of big teams went down
- 3:23Speaker 4: Dallas loss, Detroit loss, Baltimore lost. But you know, fantasy wise,
- 3:29Speaker 4: we saw big performances. Pricing was really really soft on
- 3:31Speaker 4: DraftKings this week, which I hope, I really hope that
- 3:34Speaker 4: they adjust that for Week three. Probably not gonna happen.
- 3:39Speaker 4: I imagine we're gonna have soft pressure.
- 3:40Speaker 5: I think I think Mason still sixty two hundred.
- 3:44Speaker 4: If that's the case, it's just super disappointing. I mean,
- 3:47Speaker 4: it takes the skill out of it a little bit.
- 3:50Speaker 4: You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure
- 3:52Speaker 4: out Mason at sixty two hundred is going to be
- 3:55Speaker 4: a very very strong play. I mean, the guy's getting
- 3:58Speaker 4: more work than just about anybody in the NFL. So
- 4:01Speaker 4: if that is true, that's a huge miss and relatively
- 4:04Speaker 4: unfortunate for Week three. But we're here to talk to
- 4:07Speaker 4: the show down slate and you have the Eagles and
- 4:10Speaker 4: the Falcons, some injury news obviously with AJ Brown. So
- 4:15Speaker 4: let's see if we can find some winners tonight.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're disappointed in pricing, just wait till we
- 4:18Speaker 3: get the Jalen Hurts tonight on this slate, and it
- 4:20Speaker 3: gets worse. So before I bring title, and I will
- 4:23Speaker 3: say that is funny, and the chat brought it up.
- 4:25Speaker 3: You make fun of two quarterbacks for being bad real
- 4:27Speaker 3: life quarter or for being bad real life quarterbacks, but
- 4:31Speaker 3: good fantasy. And you were on DAK yesterday. If you
- 4:34Speaker 3: had just been on the other guy that you usually mentioned, Kyler,
- 4:37Speaker 3: it would have all lined up. And I love our discord.
- 4:39Speaker 3: The best comment I saw all day yesterday, probably in
- 4:42Speaker 3: the discord, was someone said he took the E break off.
- 4:45Speaker 3: They said the guy was in sixty to sixteen miles
- 4:47Speaker 3: per hour, he popped the E break and then he
- 4:49Speaker 3: hit that twenty one miles an hour or whatever goes
- 4:51Speaker 3: over those touchdowns.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Yeah, if you played DAK yesterday, which obviously I did.
- 4:56Speaker 4: He was my highest one quarterback. On Fan Duel and DraftKings,
- 4:59Speaker 4: we talked about a ton of show. I mean literally,
- 5:01Speaker 4: I'm sitting there like drooling. When oh, this saint's goot
- 5:06Speaker 4: up fourteen to three, I'm like, here we go. Maybe
- 5:09Speaker 4: this is exactly what you wanted. I mean, that is
- 5:11Speaker 4: the exact perfect runout if you played Dak. I was like,
- 5:15Speaker 4: all right, we are in prime, prime position. He's gonna
- 5:18Speaker 4: get the job done. Like it's the game script that
- 5:20Speaker 4: you want. They're not going to run it anymore. And
- 5:23Speaker 4: they just like just died and he sucked and it
- 5:26Speaker 4: was unfortunate, But that's like the that's the situation you want.
- 5:29Speaker 4: I was already adding up the money. Unfortunately, never that
- 5:34Speaker 4: never came to fruition there.
- 5:35Speaker 3: It's the other thing too, We just did the review
- 5:37Speaker 3: show nads and I but like, when people like had
- 5:38Speaker 3: it so many, how did you get to Alvin Kamara
- 5:40Speaker 3: at four percent? It's like, if we're all over these
- 5:43Speaker 3: Dak stacks. We had the little tidbit in the discord
- 5:46Speaker 3: on Saturday of Kamara in that spot. It just worked
- 5:48Speaker 3: a completely different way with them being up so much.
- 5:51Speaker 3: But that's how you just land on that guy and
- 5:52Speaker 3: end up getting more of him. Is so, if Dak
- 5:54Speaker 3: had done his job, we would have had a ton
- 5:57Speaker 3: of good stuff going on there. Title what's up?
- 5:59Speaker 2: Man?
- 5:59Speaker 3: Made you wait long enough? I'll bring you in lots
- 6:02Speaker 3: to talk about here on this slate. But how was
- 6:03Speaker 3: your week two? Any any other thoughts from yesterday you
- 6:05Speaker 3: wanted to bring up?
- 6:06Speaker 5: Yeah, slightly profitable take that any day.
- 6:08Speaker 6: But it was, like Hoop said, the I mean ten
- 6:11Speaker 6: yards short for CD for the bonus, Dak was like
- 6:14Speaker 6: eight yards short.
- 6:15Speaker 5: And they had like two possessions.
- 6:17Speaker 6: It was ran so bad brock party, that's San France
- 6:20Speaker 6: stuff could have absolutely nuked as well.
- 6:22Speaker 5: That was really tilting yeah here, but hey, it was
- 6:31Speaker 5: news a lot.
- 6:35Speaker 4: O man.
- 6:36Speaker 3: It might be like why you guys never warned me?
- 6:38Speaker 3: I just you do just kind of like take it
- 6:39Speaker 3: in for a second and be like wow, that is
- 6:42Speaker 3: interesting instead of just telling the person. But yeah, the
- 6:45Speaker 3: title might be cut off for a second. His internet's
- 6:47Speaker 3: in and out. But the key would be what our
- 6:49Speaker 3: guy Nate said, not over yet. We got time tonight
- 6:52Speaker 3: and we got a slate here. We'll give him a
- 6:54Speaker 3: chance just to get back through there. I like our
- 6:56Speaker 3: guy Eric appreciate him always killing it in the NASCAR
- 6:58Speaker 3: street says one hundred eight only thirty five. Like, let's
- 7:01Speaker 3: do the like button. Let's get it rolling. The stone
- 7:03Speaker 3: is off the table because we didn't get the lights yesterday,
- 7:05Speaker 3: so we got it. I got the stone here. We're
- 7:07Speaker 3: gonna do the dry run and show it off. But
- 7:09Speaker 3: who just first thoughts on this slate. I teased it
- 7:11Speaker 3: a little bit earlier, but man, I don't know how
- 7:15Speaker 3: Hurts is only fifteen k in the Captain. He's the
- 7:18Speaker 3: third highest price the Bijon Robinson and Saquon Barkley.
- 7:21Speaker 4: So obviously they're continuing on with their trend of pricing
- 7:25Speaker 4: down these quarterbacks, which I get if it's a non
- 7:29Speaker 4: running quarterback like Kirk Cousins. Nine k. Yeah, that makes
- 7:32Speaker 4: a ton of sense. I really hope at some point
- 7:36Speaker 4: they realize he's running. Quarterbacks need to be the most
- 7:38Speaker 4: expensive guys on the slate, like Jalen Hurts should be
- 7:42Speaker 4: the most expensive day whatever their top prices. You know
- 7:45Speaker 4: this week or this slate looks like it's ten to six,
- 7:47Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts should be like eleven k plus and you
- 7:51Speaker 4: know at this price, thing is gonna be extremely popular,
- 7:54Speaker 4: which you know, these guys on these single game slates
- 7:57Speaker 4: are regardless. But he's gonna be very, very over the
- 8:00Speaker 4: top popular today. It's gonna be easy to fit him in.
- 8:02Speaker 4: We have cheap plays with AJ Brown ruled out as well,
- 8:07Speaker 4: you know not maybe you know, not necessarily in the Captain,
- 8:10Speaker 4: but I just he's got to be like ninety five
- 8:12Speaker 4: percent to be on like the optimal today. It's a
- 8:15Speaker 4: situation where I just I'm gonna get him into all
- 8:18Speaker 4: my teams tonight and just go from there. It's a
- 8:21Speaker 4: you know, free square and then as much as I
- 8:23Speaker 4: can in the Captain. I mean, there's just no sugar
- 8:25Speaker 4: coating and I'm not going to come on here and uh,
- 8:27Speaker 4: you know, pretend like that's not what I'm gonna do.
- 8:29Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent what I'm gonna do tonight.
- 8:32Speaker 3: I flashed it up. They asked for it. Yeah, faster
- 8:34Speaker 3: than Marvin Harrison Junior even in week two. Got faster
- 8:37Speaker 3: internet speeds than that. Hopefully our guy title is back,
- 8:40Speaker 3: but Hoop talked about it. I did the dry run
- 8:41Speaker 3: over here on ship Deviser just to see Whop and
- 8:44Speaker 3: I forgot to turn the randomness off. I was like, oh,
- 8:46Speaker 3: only forty one percent, that seems odd. No, no, no,
- 8:49Speaker 3: sixty one percent in the captain for for Jalen Hurts
- 8:53Speaker 3: is what we're getting just on the dry run one
- 8:54Speaker 3: hundred and fifty lineups because you know, the pricing everything
- 8:58Speaker 3: that we talked about it more so, how do you
- 9:00Speaker 3: have this playing out when the setup is that you essentially,
- 9:05Speaker 3: you know, have people playing on slots already, they're talking
- 9:07Speaker 3: about them, they're going to be playing four two's all
- 9:10Speaker 3: this stuff. So how are you getting different? We can
- 9:12Speaker 3: start the captain conversation off, well, title gets back in
- 9:14Speaker 3: here just with Jalen Hurts and using him leveraging by
- 9:18Speaker 3: going way overweight. That's definitely a way to get different.
- 9:20Speaker 3: If he's thirty percent, just jam him in. But how
- 9:23Speaker 3: else are you getting different? Yeah?
- 9:24Speaker 4: I think that's like the number one thing. I mean,
- 9:26Speaker 4: even if we think he's going to be popular, the
- 9:28Speaker 4: true number is probably twenty five to thirty percent range,
- 9:33Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's gonna be somewhere
- 9:36Speaker 4: right in right in that range. And you know it's easy.
- 9:39Speaker 4: That's number one. You can play them and amounts way
- 9:42Speaker 4: over that that twenty five percent. They're just going to
- 9:44Speaker 4: have more combinations if it is Hurts Captain that needs
- 9:48Speaker 4: to win, and obviously it's showed down, And this is
- 9:51Speaker 4: the question, like, never ask this question if you're watching
- 9:55Speaker 4: this YouTube show, if you're someone that's not a member,
- 9:58Speaker 4: if you are a member and in the discord, please
- 10:00Speaker 4: never ask this question again. If you do watch the show,
- 10:03Speaker 4: can I leave salar around the table for Showdown? The
- 10:05Speaker 4: answer is always yes. The answer is always yes, And
- 10:08Speaker 4: that question comes up, and I get it. Some people
- 10:10Speaker 4: are due to the game, totally fine. But if you're
- 10:12Speaker 4: watching this and you're thinking that and wondering, the answer
- 10:15Speaker 4: is always in Showdown, you can leave big chunks of
- 10:19Speaker 4: salar around the table. One game, anything can happen. That's
- 10:23Speaker 4: Number one, though, be fine leaving the big chunks of
- 10:25Speaker 4: salary on the table. Do some weird stuff. You know,
- 10:29Speaker 4: a lot of people, if they play Hurts Captain, they
- 10:31Speaker 4: just want one pass catcher because he's a running quarterback.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Play two pass catchers, you know, maybe look at a
- 10:37Speaker 4: lineup with potentially three pass catchers. Just do weird things
- 10:42Speaker 4: to get different. Number one for me, though, it would
- 10:45Speaker 4: definitely be to just go overweight if you really like them,
- 10:47Speaker 4: like way overweight and then do some of the weird
- 10:49Speaker 4: things that I kind of talked about there.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see how that goes too, because there's other
- 10:54Speaker 3: stuff we'll talk about. AJ Brown out obviously, so we'll
- 10:56Speaker 3: get there. Title you back, I hope, So yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 11:00Speaker 3: we got you did? Did you have a Do you
- 11:01Speaker 3: catch any of that? If not, we're just talking about
- 11:03Speaker 3: Hurts being twenty five maybe twenty five to thirty is
- 11:06Speaker 3: his range probably for Captain Tonight, and the original dry
- 11:10Speaker 3: run on Shipdemizer is sixty one percent obviously a way
- 11:14Speaker 3: just to use them, just other ways to use them
- 11:15Speaker 3: up top.
- 11:16Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I like getting an overweight on Hurts. I
- 11:19Speaker 6: just think Atlanta looks so bad with Kirk Cousins. And again,
- 11:22Speaker 6: what happens in week one doesn't mean it happens a
- 11:24Speaker 6: week two, as you saw with Marvin Harrison and all that.
- 11:27Speaker 6: But I'm taking the stand at least that Kirk Cousin's
- 11:30Speaker 6: pretty dust right now. So there's only so many captains
- 11:32Speaker 6: you want a roster with no AJ Brown. I'll be
- 11:35Speaker 6: playing the Davante. I'll be playing a lot of Hurts.
- 11:38Speaker 6: How you can play him too, like a two four,
- 11:40Speaker 6: A lot of people three threes and four to two eagles.
- 11:43Speaker 6: If you go Hurts captain and just go Davante, just
- 11:46Speaker 6: say he gets all the workers saque and Hurts get
- 11:48Speaker 6: it all done and run four falcons. That's a way
- 11:51Speaker 6: to get different again. Like you talk about leaving three
- 11:54Speaker 6: k and salary, totally fine. Play Hurts up there, leave
- 11:57Speaker 6: three k. There's plenty of ways you can get different there.
- 12:00Speaker 6: So I'm definitely playing Hurts even at that six percent.
- 12:04Speaker 3: And I usually don't play him. I may just try
- 12:08Speaker 3: and do something a little different and play the you know,
- 12:10Speaker 3: just over the field, like they'll just play thirty percent.
- 12:13Speaker 3: If he comes in at thirty thirty three, I'm at
- 12:15Speaker 3: or under. If he comes in at twenty five, I'm
- 12:16Speaker 3: slightly over. But I'm not gonna leave him off completely.
- 12:19Speaker 3: I don't want to go all in just because I'm
- 12:21Speaker 3: trying to ship it unique and get different other ways.
- 12:23Speaker 3: But I think the only good thing about this slate,
- 12:25Speaker 3: I really don't love it off the top. But the
- 12:27Speaker 3: only good thing I would say is what Whop mentioned earlier.
- 12:29Speaker 3: You can be five grand in two seconds. Like if
- 12:31Speaker 3: you run it back and land on Bijon Robinson, I
- 12:34Speaker 3: can literally just take him out and play Darnel Mooney
- 12:36Speaker 3: and hope he gets a late shot and it goes
- 12:38Speaker 3: to him and he outdoes Bijeon, who did nothing. There's
- 12:40Speaker 3: five grand on the table, so it's like there is
- 12:43Speaker 3: tons of ways to get different. There's also because of
- 12:45Speaker 3: some of the stuff like if ray Ray McCloud is
- 12:48Speaker 3: super popular at three k in the flex for Atlanta,
- 12:52Speaker 3: you can play one of like Hodge or somebody else,
- 12:54Speaker 3: the backup tight end behind pits like there is unique
- 12:57Speaker 3: guys you can go to plus leaving salary to make
- 13:00Speaker 3: it so you can still find good unique lineups or
- 13:03Speaker 3: more unique lineups with Hurts than just jamming in the
- 13:06Speaker 3: ones that everyone's gonna land on. But other than that,
- 13:09Speaker 3: it's you know, it looks pretty heavy, like it's gonna
- 13:11Speaker 3: be a Philly Onslaught type night. Just because of how
- 13:14Speaker 3: bad Atlanta looks week one. I think you will have
- 13:16Speaker 3: to get different with some four two's, some three threes,
- 13:20Speaker 3: some of those things as well, anything extra their title, No, what.
- 13:23Speaker 6: Do you think of like hurts and then just one
- 13:25Speaker 6: other like the two four you talk about, So two eagles,
- 13:28Speaker 6: but one of them is in the captain spot and
- 13:30Speaker 6: they just whether it's all Dallas Goddard, let's say, because
- 13:33Speaker 6: with no Aj Brown it's definitely concentrated. Obviously, Saquon makes
- 13:38Speaker 6: makes easy sense. He has a game like last week,
- 13:40Speaker 6: you could have four of the other side hurts, two
- 13:42Speaker 6: QB sneaks.
- 13:43Speaker 5: But what are your thoughts on that?
- 13:45Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 13:46Speaker 3: I always like those anyway, and I think it's a
- 13:47Speaker 3: great way tonight to do it because it's a setup
- 13:49Speaker 3: where it hurts runs a couple in. I actually think
- 13:52Speaker 3: the Atlanta side, if they do put any fight up,
- 13:55Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be pretty condensed, right. It's gonna be
- 13:58Speaker 3: Cousins that finally is connecting with some of these guys.
- 14:00Speaker 3: It's gonna be London who is out there a bunch pants,
- 14:03Speaker 3: beijon whatever. To me, that screams that you could run
- 14:06Speaker 3: a two to four, even a one to five with hurts,
- 14:09Speaker 3: which means just hurts up top run all the condens.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I prefer the two four way more. And that's what
- 14:14Speaker 3: I'll land on. I'm just saying this is an example
- 14:16Speaker 3: where it was asked the other day and who mentioned
- 14:18Speaker 3: it hurts Josh Allen CMC when he plays and is
- 14:22Speaker 3: not on the IR. You don't rest in peace to
- 14:24Speaker 3: those best ball shares. But when that stuff happens, those
- 14:27Speaker 3: guys are the guys that can literally just do it
- 14:29Speaker 3: all themselves, and it's just like, Okay, maybe a couple
- 14:33Speaker 3: other guys get a few catches, but the guys on
- 14:35Speaker 3: the other side playing catchup end up making up all
- 14:38Speaker 3: that volume, all those draftings points, So whop anything to
- 14:41Speaker 3: add on that are just different roster constructions up top there,
- 14:44Speaker 3: because I think the five to one, four to two,
- 14:46Speaker 3: four to two for sure, three to three with a
- 14:48Speaker 3: Philly captain, and even five to one Philly will be
- 14:52Speaker 3: will be more popular than usual.
- 14:53Speaker 4: All those Yeah, yeah, the Philly stuff is definitely gonna
- 14:57Speaker 4: be more popular. I don't mind. Like, yeah, Hurts captain
- 14:59Speaker 4: with one pass catcher and then four Falcons guys, I
- 15:02Speaker 4: think is an interesting route to go. And there are
- 15:05Speaker 4: some cheap guys which we'll get to and talk about.
- 15:09Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different ways I think, definitely
- 15:12Speaker 4: to get different. But you know, Philly heavy teams are
- 15:15Speaker 4: going to be very popular tonight, would be my guest,
- 15:18Speaker 4: because of the value that has emerged with a J.
- 15:21Speaker 4: Brown being ruled out, So you know, flip it a
- 15:23Speaker 4: little bit, do the you know four too. I don't
- 15:25Speaker 4: have any interest in like a five to Falcons, Like,
- 15:28Speaker 4: no chance on playing that.
- 15:29Speaker 3: But like anyone playing five tubes tonight?
- 15:33Speaker 4: Yeah, did I say five too? I haven't heard you
- 15:36Speaker 4: haven't heard.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Of the new show up members only hoops got an
- 15:41Speaker 3: extra extra roster spot to get some more points in there.
- 15:44Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I needed after yesterday. So no, it's uh,
- 15:49Speaker 4: it's yeah, just doing things a little bit different, leaving
- 15:51Speaker 4: salary a way overweight. I think it's the route to go.
- 15:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like that call too, like just some
- 15:56Speaker 3: of the other stuff. It's not saying you know you
- 15:59Speaker 3: can if you want to experiment. You got one hundred
- 16:00Speaker 3: fifty lineups and you got some in there. Yeah, you'll
- 16:02Speaker 3: be really unique if you run a five to one Atlanta.
- 16:04Speaker 3: But that's like the same to me as when people
- 16:06Speaker 3: cap at forty five thousand, then they're like, boom, one
- 16:09Speaker 3: hundred and fifty uniques. Yeah, you left five grand on
- 16:11Speaker 3: the table in every single one. It's nice if you
- 16:13Speaker 3: ship it, but over the long term, I just don't
- 16:16Speaker 3: see it. Personally. You can get a ton of low
- 16:18Speaker 3: dupe lineups still at forty eight five or at forty
- 16:22Speaker 3: eight nine and still get better spots in there to
- 16:24Speaker 3: still keep your ceiling up without just risking it just
- 16:27Speaker 3: to say you got unique. That would kind of fit
- 16:29Speaker 3: the same bill of with the injury statuses on that
- 16:32Speaker 3: side tonight, It's so unlikely. Hence why I said earlier
- 16:35Speaker 3: the two four or obviously beyond that of using multiple
- 16:38Speaker 3: eagles versus trying to get unique by going five to
- 16:40Speaker 3: one Atlanta stacks. So agree there anything else title you
- 16:44Speaker 3: want to add on that. I saw a couple more
- 16:45Speaker 3: things going to bring up, But anything else you want
- 16:46Speaker 3: to add on that.
- 16:48Speaker 5: No one thing kind of on your topic.
- 16:50Speaker 6: So for me lately, I've been shooting for like the
- 16:52Speaker 6: twenty five dupe range, Like, man, I cannot find that
- 16:55Speaker 6: sweet spot that some people do down there, Like I'm
- 16:58Speaker 6: not going to leave four k be like, all right,
- 17:01Speaker 6: Johnny Wilson, you're outscoring DeVante Smith today. Obviously that was
- 17:04Speaker 6: a little bit of a reach. But as far as
- 17:07Speaker 6: like if you drop down from like a Dallas Godder
- 17:09Speaker 6: to like a bill or a defense that's like three
- 17:12Speaker 6: k that way and eliminate. So I don't know if
- 17:15Speaker 6: you want to talk any bit about this yesterday, this.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Is a showdown and you can get away with anything.
- 17:19Speaker 3: But yet like yesterday and showed it in a main slate,
- 17:21Speaker 3: I think Braylen Allen almost outscored Hall. Right, you know,
- 17:25Speaker 3: it's random luck and it's the way it goes. They
- 17:27Speaker 3: both scored like who stacked up and also one of
- 17:30Speaker 3: them was I think maybe two of them were passing,
- 17:32Speaker 3: but Hall caught a nice one which would be wide
- 17:34Speaker 3: receivers on notice, and it was like who had Aaron
- 17:37Speaker 3: Rodgers with Alan and Hall and just fill your first
- 17:40Speaker 3: three spots nobody, right, You're just not gonna get there,
- 17:42Speaker 3: but this just dropping it down, you can definitely get
- 17:46Speaker 3: away with it. I was gonna bring this stuff up,
- 17:48Speaker 3: not just to switch gears, but a couple of things
- 17:50Speaker 3: noted the Dotson love already, So there's a couple things.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Dotson's only four K. They brought him over to start
- 17:55Speaker 3: the season from the Commanders. Everybody expects him to be
- 17:58Speaker 3: more involved. But then people met you sort of how
- 18:00Speaker 3: they play typically. You know, some guys like Calcatara could
- 18:03Speaker 3: get in there instead behind Goddard. Goddard could get a
- 18:06Speaker 3: bunch more targets. He's out there a bunch also, they're
- 18:08Speaker 3: supposed to again, we won't know till we get to
- 18:11Speaker 3: later today, but they're supposed to activate suspected to activate
- 18:15Speaker 3: Paris Campbell elevate him to the main lineup. He's two
- 18:19Speaker 3: hundred bucks on this slate as well in the flex.
- 18:21Speaker 6: I believes you're messing with all those guys down there
- 18:27Speaker 6: Max putting a Max one rule.
- 18:30Speaker 3: I'm definitely because they're not going to show up, but
- 18:34Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably mess with that if like it's uh,
- 18:38Speaker 3: you know, Ray, Ray McLeod and somebody else, Like, I'm
- 18:40Speaker 3: probably not running him with another guy, just because not
- 18:43Speaker 3: that you're gonna get a bunch of it, but just
- 18:44Speaker 3: to say it, I think Campbell is in the price
- 18:47Speaker 3: someone mentioned earlier. Thought, yeah, for sure he is.
- 18:49Speaker 2: He is.
- 18:49Speaker 3: He is, So he's just still at zero because he
- 18:51Speaker 3: hasn't been elevated yet. Two hundred bucks for him. So
- 18:54Speaker 3: just to to note that, hoop, like you know, any
- 18:57Speaker 3: anything you see yourself doing there with some of these
- 19:00Speaker 3: lower guys. I know we're on Captain right now, but
- 19:02Speaker 3: was just curious if that changes how you set it
- 19:04Speaker 3: up because with Hurtza Captain that was my only takeaways.
- 19:07Speaker 3: The ways to get different are when you have Calcata's
- 19:10Speaker 3: you have a Wilson or Acovey, I think he's I
- 19:12Speaker 3: think Wilson's actually questionable too. But you have a Campbell,
- 19:16Speaker 3: you have some of these other guys. You don't just
- 19:17Speaker 3: have to play Devonte Smith, Dotson or Goddard et cetera,
- 19:21Speaker 3: and or Goddard and play it that way.
- 19:24Speaker 4: The problem, i's the end with these super cheap guys
- 19:28Speaker 4: kind of revolves around the softer pricing of like the
- 19:31Speaker 4: quarterbacks and all the positions Like Showdown two years ago,
- 19:33Speaker 4: like the top players were way more expensive. It was
- 19:36Speaker 4: like twelve thousand for the top rushing quarterbacks. The top
- 19:40Speaker 4: wide receivers would be in the ten k range, the
- 19:43Speaker 4: top running backs could potentially be in the ten k range.
- 19:46Speaker 4: What these cheap guys have to do now is they
- 19:48Speaker 4: have to like outscore like legitimate guys. They have to
- 19:52Speaker 4: outscore the kickers or like a defense or a wide
- 19:55Speaker 4: receiver two or three. Like the need for the super
- 19:59Speaker 4: cheap guy, I just don't think is as prevalent. We
- 20:02Speaker 4: haven't seen it on the Showdown, so correct me if
- 20:04Speaker 4: I'm wrong. Where like a full two hundred dollars punt
- 20:07Speaker 4: has been on the on the optimal. It could have happened. Yes,
- 20:11Speaker 4: The way it happened in the past though, was like
- 20:14Speaker 4: you needed five studs, Like there's five studs on the
- 20:16Speaker 4: slate that all got you know, twenty plus fantasy points,
- 20:20Speaker 4: and you just needed a two hundred dollars guy. It
- 20:22Speaker 4: didn't matter what he did. If he got four, that
- 20:24Speaker 4: was good enough. And we saw teams like that win.
- 20:27Speaker 4: We saw those teams be optimal. Where it's the five
- 20:30Speaker 4: studs and one two hundred dollars punt, it really didn't
- 20:32Speaker 4: matter what the two hundred dollars punt did. You just
- 20:35Speaker 4: needed those other five guys. Like the way pricing is nowadays,
- 20:39Speaker 4: I just don't know if it's necessary to take the
- 20:43Speaker 4: risk on some of these cheap guys. So I've been
- 20:45Speaker 4: trying to almost eliminate him. But yeah, if Paris guy
- 20:48Speaker 4: like Paris Campbell gets elevated, there's a reason he gets elevated.
- 20:52Speaker 4: I mean, he could be out there as like the
- 20:54Speaker 4: wide receiver three. So I would take a look at him.
- 20:57Speaker 4: But I'm just kind of skeptical right now in terms
- 21:00Speaker 4: of roster construction. If it's really needed on most slates,
- 21:03Speaker 4: and you got to.
- 21:03Speaker 3: Tell yourself that story I'm glad you brought that up.
- 21:05Speaker 3: I love that call. It's like, that's the thing. If
- 21:07Speaker 3: you're getting a shootout slate where you're seeing that like here,
- 21:10Speaker 3: you have to have it go that way. You need
- 21:12Speaker 3: do you need to be able to fit hurts DeVonta Smith,
- 21:15Speaker 3: Drake London, Kyle Pitts and Cousins. Well, then yeah, you're
- 21:18Speaker 3: gonna need that cheap guy. But do you see that
- 21:20Speaker 3: being the actual game flow, the game plan where the
- 21:23Speaker 3: most points are coming from. So especially for those most
- 21:25Speaker 3: of you playing you know, one to twenty max. Not
- 21:28Speaker 3: everybody out there I know is playing full set MM
- 21:30Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty max. That's where you got to
- 21:32Speaker 3: think about that stuff when you're building it, right, that's
- 21:34Speaker 3: kind of the thought process you should be putting into
- 21:36Speaker 3: your lineups. Just to make it Monday or one of
- 21:39Speaker 3: our projections masters there is can I leave money on
- 21:42Speaker 3: the table just going back to pick a hoop there?
- 21:45Speaker 3: So love that call much that you knew what was coming.
- 21:49Speaker 3: We got them other stuff. Then I'll just go through quickly,
- 21:53Speaker 3: DeVonta Smith. Just go back to the captain, next next
- 21:56Speaker 3: man up. Obviously, no price adjustment. It was a possibility
- 21:58Speaker 3: that Brown played. We got the Who's very early this
- 22:00Speaker 3: week that he wasn't playing, so that's pretty set there.
- 22:03Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard, a fan favorite from Ship Nation members NIDS
- 22:06Speaker 3: and myself wants Chopped to slate with Goddard up top,
- 22:09Speaker 3: so we always got a little bit of love for that.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Barkley's surprisingly not getting much love up there, and him
- 22:14Speaker 3: and Bijon are more expensive than Hurts, so that is
- 22:18Speaker 3: the obvious part of it. And then also not quite
- 22:22Speaker 3: you know, not quite that far apart in price, three
- 22:24Speaker 3: hundred bucks in the captain spot, he's for sure rolling
- 22:27Speaker 3: Monday's our guy. I'm just messing around. Did you see
- 22:29Speaker 3: that hoop? He said? Able to show down? But the
- 22:33Speaker 3: other thing title was the other night? You know, is
- 22:35Speaker 3: this in people's mind? Maybe not by looks of ownership,
- 22:38Speaker 3: but James Cook just dominated Josh Allen by the way,
- 22:42Speaker 3: YouTube Chat got their first w bills and under. So
- 22:46Speaker 3: congrats to the YouTube chat out there. We will put
- 22:48Speaker 3: it up again today. But title I'll kick that to
- 22:50Speaker 3: you is, you know, could you just go to Barkley
- 22:52Speaker 3: here and hope that they continue with him and he
- 22:54Speaker 3: may even get He didn't even get a lot of
- 22:56Speaker 3: passing work in the first game as much as he
- 22:58Speaker 3: could get now with aj Brown out, So any thoughts
- 23:01Speaker 3: on Barkley up top there, he's not showing a lot
- 23:03Speaker 3: of luck.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Barkley, I like Bjeon. They're my second
- 23:07Speaker 5: after Hurts. They're my favorite, and they're gonna be half
- 23:09Speaker 5: the ownership. I think I leaned Bijon because I do.
- 23:13Speaker 6: I should say I know I leaned Bijon just because
- 23:15Speaker 6: if I think, I mean with how bad Kirk looked.
- 23:18Speaker 6: All he looked was for the checkdown, and he got
- 23:21Speaker 6: all the work. Finally, with Arthur Smith out of town,
- 23:23Speaker 6: Algier was non existent again. Who knows if that'll be
- 23:26Speaker 6: the exact same What happened in week one doesn't mean
- 23:29Speaker 6: it's exactly going to happen in week two. But it
- 23:32Speaker 6: was very good usage for him. He caught a lot
- 23:34Speaker 6: of passes out of the backfield, very good TV prop. Yeah,
- 23:38Speaker 6: so Bjeon's my favorite after Hurts, and I probably want
- 23:41Speaker 6: to be somewhere like double the field. He's coming twelve
- 23:43Speaker 6: thirteen percent. I like Barkley's my third favorite after that
- 23:47Speaker 6: Davante and then it's a huge gap after that. They'll
- 23:51Speaker 6: probably make eighty five percent of my captain pool. Those
- 23:54Speaker 6: four I would think.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I'm gonna say, just give us
- 23:58Speaker 3: the game score. Just tell us what the game's or
- 24:00Speaker 3: as we'll figure it out. Maybe you don't know the
- 24:01Speaker 3: over under, so that will automatically not cheat the system
- 24:04Speaker 3: that way. But I don't think anybody is picking the Falcons,
- 24:07Speaker 3: or at least not enough, so we already knew it
- 24:08Speaker 3: was gonna be Eagles. We'll get a note on if
- 24:11Speaker 3: it's over under. Put the score of the game final
- 24:13Speaker 3: score into the chat, and that'll give us an idea
- 24:16Speaker 3: on how people might be building as well. Hoop other
- 24:18Speaker 3: captains we talked, You know DeVonta Smith when you step
- 24:21Speaker 3: the wedding just for a second, but Goddard Smith, Barkley,
- 24:24Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson, and then maybe Drake London, but also maybe
- 24:29Speaker 3: like Defense and Kicker, just if you think that is
- 24:31Speaker 3: you know on Eagles spot where they just smash. But
- 24:33Speaker 3: I don't know your your thoughts on other captains. The
- 24:35Speaker 3: numbers are on the screen.
- 24:37Speaker 4: Yes, for me, I think it's just gonna be Philadelphia
- 24:42Speaker 4: captains for me tonight, I think I'm just gonna fade
- 24:44Speaker 4: all the Atlanta stuff. Bijon definitely not playing Drake London's ass.
- 24:48Speaker 4: I mean, me and me and Title have a have
- 24:50Speaker 4: a hard time with that guy. Just cannot click that
- 24:52Speaker 4: name up to up top. I'm sure some people go
- 24:56Speaker 4: to Pitt's. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bank. I
- 24:59Speaker 4: think the Eagle have a chance to just stomp them tonight.
- 25:02Speaker 4: Like I a lot of people thought Kirk Cousins, and
- 25:05Speaker 4: I know it's a one game sample size. I wasn't
- 25:07Speaker 4: really buying it coming into the season though, either, So
- 25:10Speaker 4: I guess that's kind of where I get the free pass.
- 25:13Speaker 4: I'm already saying that the Falcons suck, but I just
- 25:15Speaker 4: don't think Kirk Cousins is going to be able to
- 25:19Speaker 4: change the dynamic of this team, to be honest with you,
- 25:23Speaker 4: so I don't know. I'll probably fade all the Falcons
- 25:26Speaker 4: up top, and you know, all my captains will be
- 25:28Speaker 4: listed in the player pool. What I do eventually end
- 25:30Speaker 4: up doing, you know, follow my same process where we
- 25:33Speaker 4: do the show here and then as soon as we
- 25:35Speaker 4: get off, I start working on my teams and working
- 25:37Speaker 4: on the content. Get it up nice and early for
- 25:39Speaker 4: you guys, like everyone on our team does. So it'll
- 25:42Speaker 4: all be listed there. But I just think the Eagles.
- 25:44Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be at least one Eagle guy
- 25:46Speaker 4: that kind of goes off. Is it Hurts, Is it Barkley?
- 25:49Speaker 4: Is it DeVonta Smith, is it Dallas Goddard. I think
- 25:52Speaker 4: that'll be like my entire entire pool at captain most
- 25:56Speaker 4: likely I got to see once I go in there
- 25:57Speaker 4: and start building. I haven't built eighteen that so I'm
- 26:01Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure on that. But I just
- 26:03Speaker 4: don't see any of these Falcons guys being there. You
- 26:07Speaker 4: can definitely make the case for Bijon and he'll be
- 26:09Speaker 4: the highest known Falcon captain.
- 26:12Speaker 5: You know.
- 26:12Speaker 4: Maybe that's the way. One way that I just get
- 26:15Speaker 4: a little bit different is you know, fade him in
- 26:16Speaker 4: the captain spot and take all those shares and maybe
- 26:18Speaker 4: put it to Barkley, because you know Barkley obviously. Game
- 26:22Speaker 4: one was great, Game two could be great too. I
- 26:24Speaker 4: just think the Eagles beat the shit out of them.
- 26:26Speaker 4: So not much interest in any of the Falcons guys.
- 26:29Speaker 4: Not much interest in chief captains either, to be honest
- 26:32Speaker 4: with you.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have as much interested in the cheap
- 26:34Speaker 3: ones either. I might do some some eagles captains up
- 26:37Speaker 3: top just in those blow out lineups as a way
- 26:38Speaker 3: to flip it and get a little bit different. If
- 26:40Speaker 3: you think they just do absolutely nothing. You can build
- 26:42Speaker 3: that out quite quite a few different ways where you
- 26:45Speaker 3: can get like hurt Smith, get some of the good
- 26:46Speaker 3: dudes in from the blowout and then just land on
- 26:49Speaker 3: a mid range guy and not have to put Bijon
- 26:51Speaker 3: in on the other side. So I think that would
- 26:53Speaker 3: be another interesting way to do it and at least
- 26:55Speaker 3: be unique with it, unlike just going to a chief
- 26:57Speaker 3: captain landing on all the same dudes everyone else does.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Leave the money on the other side. Pick some of
- 27:02Speaker 3: these guys down the board. But the other one I
- 27:04Speaker 3: would say too, is like the chat, really a lot
- 27:07Speaker 3: more mid range scores from the chat at the end.
- 27:10Speaker 3: A couple came in blowouts, but a lot of these
- 27:13Speaker 3: games within ten points, within four points, Like I don't know,
- 27:16Speaker 3: maybe they think it's going to be a little bit closer,
- 27:18Speaker 3: but it looks like the overall is going to be
- 27:21Speaker 3: eagles and it's close, but I think it's the under man.
- 27:25Speaker 3: I think people have eagles in the under so we'll
- 27:28Speaker 3: call it for eagles plus the under and then the
- 27:32Speaker 3: other thing hoop is the Drake London one that got
- 27:36Speaker 3: brought up. The only thing I'll say about that is
- 27:37Speaker 3: if he pulls like a Neighbors or a Marv Harrison
- 27:40Speaker 3: junior or something like where he comes out and has
- 27:43Speaker 3: his bounce back game, I will say I don't think
- 27:45Speaker 3: he's any of those guys, but I can hit the
- 27:48Speaker 3: two four on that one. I can roll him with cousins.
- 27:52Speaker 3: Just hope that he's the only guy in the game
- 27:54Speaker 3: that gets two touchdowns and that's their only fourteen points
- 27:57Speaker 3: they score. And then the other way, Philly comes back
- 27:59Speaker 3: and does thing.
- 28:00Speaker 4: I could definitely do that, so I'd be I get it,
- 28:03Speaker 4: but definitely not gonna be for me. I let Titles
- 28:06Speaker 4: speak for himself on on this one because we have
- 28:08Speaker 4: the same sort of history with with Drake London to speak.
- 28:13Speaker 5: But for me it makes sense though no, I'm not,
- 28:15Speaker 5: it totally makes sense's person.
- 28:18Speaker 4: This is the opposite. It's not business. It's personal, Like
- 28:21Speaker 4: who's going to the.
- 28:22Speaker 5: I know ball zero Falcons, He's got some balls. I'm
- 28:26Speaker 5: not quite there.
- 28:27Speaker 6: I'll hit the X for London and join who but
- 28:29Speaker 6: obviously they want to get him the ball. He's wide
- 28:31Speaker 6: receiver one drafted really high next to in the first round.
- 28:35Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, see, I'm just gonna end up talking
- 28:38Speaker 3: myself into it just for uniques, and I'm just gonna
- 28:40Speaker 3: play like Cousins with a couple of pass catchers because
- 28:43Speaker 3: that's how he would get there. He's opposite Hurts. It
- 28:46Speaker 3: makes sense if it does push enough that Hurts has
- 28:48Speaker 3: a big game. Maybe he comes back. The game yesterday
- 28:51Speaker 3: with the New Orleans and Dallas it was kind of
- 28:54Speaker 3: the hope Kirk Cousins is not I mean, he's not
- 28:56Speaker 3: Dak you could say or whatever, but the point would
- 28:58Speaker 3: be if he has to come back and actually does
- 28:59Speaker 3: put up a fight, then maybe what about Kirk Cousins
- 29:02Speaker 3: in primetime? Is that still.
- 29:05Speaker 5: The captain?
- 29:06Speaker 4: Is that still a thing?
- 29:08Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 29:09Speaker 3: I mean people think at one time last year, but
- 29:12Speaker 3: Mike Bee says, right here, Kyle Pitts might be the guy.
- 29:15Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts ten for one hundred and twenty four and
- 29:17Speaker 3: two touchdowns, and then Ben says, might be you high,
- 29:21Speaker 3: and so maybe maybe he is. Maybe he's on the
- 29:24Speaker 3: good stuff. I don't know, but I don't know. I
- 29:26Speaker 3: guess I can kalk myself into some of it, But
- 29:29Speaker 3: you guys aren't gonna have room for it anyway, because
- 29:30Speaker 3: you're gonna jam Hurts and rightfully so, so you'll have
- 29:33Speaker 3: a little bit of room to move on the other stuff.
- 29:36Speaker 3: But I think that kind of covers where we're at
- 29:38Speaker 3: on Captain. I definitely think that's that's where I'd be
- 29:41Speaker 3: at anyway. At the other stuff. Obviously they come in
- 29:44Speaker 3: less here. Hurts is coming in one hundred percent as expected.
- 29:47Speaker 3: On the dry run. We're getting him fully sixty point
- 29:50Speaker 3: sixty seven in the Captain, thirty nine three to three
- 29:53Speaker 3: in the flex, much less. Cousins overall, almost none at
- 29:57Speaker 3: the Captain, very little at the flex. We'll go position
- 30:01Speaker 3: by position after, but just to show it, I guess
- 30:03Speaker 3: we could start there. I mean, do you want to
- 30:04Speaker 3: talk anymore about Captain Hooper or anymore on quarterback? Tie
- 30:08Speaker 3: those together?
- 30:10Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, as like I said, as much Hurts as
- 30:12Speaker 4: humanly possible, and then yeah, I'm fine with cousins in
- 30:15Speaker 4: the flax if I think they're playing from behind, like
- 30:19Speaker 4: I want the quarterback that could throw it a ton
- 30:21Speaker 4: in the second half, So definitely fine with him in
- 30:24Speaker 4: the flex. What's his ownership looking like in the flex,
- 30:28Speaker 4: not that it really matters all that much, but I'm
- 30:29Speaker 4: just kind of curious. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's easy
- 30:34Speaker 4: to play forty percent you're overweight on the quarterback that
- 30:38Speaker 4: in my eye should be thrown it a ton in
- 30:41Speaker 4: the second half.
- 30:43Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna end up being something else.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Like.
- 30:44Speaker 3: The main things that can keep getting brought up though
- 30:46Speaker 3: in the chat are Ray Ray mcclod. We're gonna get
- 30:48Speaker 3: to wide receiver, so we'll discuss it then. But Ray
- 30:51Speaker 3: Ray McLoud and John Dotson. That's the two guys that
- 30:54Speaker 3: are definitely getting steamed up on both sides of the ball.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Because Ray Ray Mcloud's a hero. He had seven targs,
- 31:00Speaker 3: so whatever was in week one, you know, he's gonna
- 31:01Speaker 3: crush and then Dots And this is why they brought
- 31:04Speaker 3: him in man like, as soon as they get an injury,
- 31:06Speaker 3: he's gotta be the guy, of course, So we'll see
- 31:08Speaker 3: how it actually goes. Also, the dry Run likes underweight
- 31:13Speaker 3: stance on cousins in the Flex, and I think I
- 31:16Speaker 3: like that too. I think if he's not that's my
- 31:19Speaker 3: take always anyway, It's not that I love him in
- 31:21Speaker 3: the Captain, but I would say he's either in the
- 31:23Speaker 3: game with him and getting it done, or he's probably
- 31:25Speaker 3: not at all. Like I could just see the d
- 31:27Speaker 3: crushing him and it's other stuff dragging along and it's
- 31:30Speaker 3: ends up being just those Philly builds that you need
- 31:32Speaker 3: with like pants on the other side, Mooney on the
- 31:35Speaker 3: other side, something like that, you just don't need to
- 31:37Speaker 3: have it. Probably, so I don't know. We'll see what
- 31:39Speaker 3: I do there, but that's my last thought on it.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Title any final thoughts at captain and or quarterback before
- 31:44Speaker 3: we go to the running back position, Well, I will.
- 31:46Speaker 6: Say it's really ironic because I was about to say
- 31:49Speaker 6: the opposite thing by like Cousins and the flex, and
- 31:52Speaker 6: then you did to say a good reason why you didn't.
- 31:54Speaker 5: For me, it's just I didn't.
- 31:56Speaker 6: I don't think I'll play that captain because it feels
- 31:58Speaker 6: like if he does absolute nuke, it's either Pitts or London.
- 32:02Speaker 6: And maybe that's completely wrong because he does have those
- 32:04Speaker 6: other weapons, but he just also has no rushing upside.
- 32:07Speaker 6: The reason I thought in the flex was thirty four
- 32:09Speaker 6: percent for a QB sounds light and he's only nine K,
- 32:13Speaker 6: so I thought like it'd be easier to get him
- 32:16Speaker 6: that way. So I think I will be playing a
- 32:17Speaker 6: lot of cousins flex, I won't be playing any captain.
- 32:20Speaker 6: As far as going into running back for Flex, it's
- 32:23Speaker 6: really easy because both Sakuan and Bijon are workhorses.
- 32:27Speaker 5: Alger I had pretty much no interest.
- 32:30Speaker 6: Kenny gain will, though, I feel like I have to
- 32:32Speaker 6: because if I'm playing a lot of Hurts captains, he's
- 32:34Speaker 6: only fourteen percent. He gets some passing down work. If
- 32:38Speaker 6: he somehow falls in, he'll be a low home. But
- 32:41Speaker 6: I don't know what Hoop's laughing at.
- 32:42Speaker 4: But I got Kenny. I got Kenny's got jokes that
- 32:47Speaker 4: one not won't We probably won't put them. Yeah, he's
- 32:50Speaker 4: got the jokes.
- 32:52Speaker 5: That's my thoughts though. Running back is there's not really
- 32:55Speaker 5: many backups.
- 32:56Speaker 6: I gotta go find this, oh Man, all right, Okay,
- 33:00Speaker 6: Hoop laughing The whole time when I was talking.
- 33:02Speaker 4: I was like, what is going on?
- 33:03Speaker 3: I was looking at other stats in game one and
- 33:05Speaker 3: everything first week, and then I go back and see it.
- 33:07Speaker 3: So yeah, it's fine, Go go ahead, Hoop. Anything to
- 33:10Speaker 3: add on running backs we just talked through already at
- 33:13Speaker 3: the captain, But now we're just talking position by position,
- 33:15Speaker 3: So just other other spots or anybody else you would consider.
- 33:18Speaker 3: What if it's a Phillies blowout, any any love for
- 33:20Speaker 3: our boys Shipley bring it back home to the nation,
- 33:23Speaker 3: gets Shipley down the stretch in the fourth quarner.
- 33:25Speaker 4: What do you think Shipley's got to get it done
- 33:27Speaker 4: for us at some point this season? Many maybe tonight's night.
- 33:30Speaker 4: I don't I don't love the two thousand dollars price tag,
- 33:33Speaker 4: not that it probably matters all that much, but why
- 33:34Speaker 4: the hell is Shipley two thousand? Is the ason that
- 33:37Speaker 4: he's not two hundred?
- 33:39Speaker 3: Run? They don't know to make Hurts the most expensive
- 33:41Speaker 3: player on the slate by a wide margin, but they
- 33:43Speaker 3: do know to make Shipley two thousand. Why bringing the
- 33:47Speaker 3: old why is that? Yeah, well there's you gotta know,
- 33:51Speaker 3: blowout lineup Shipley.
- 33:52Speaker 4: That's the way to do it, just automatically get respect
- 33:55Speaker 4: when it starts with the old ship the ship tag
- 33:57Speaker 4: in there. So yeah, he's two thousand. I don't know.
- 34:00Speaker 4: I mean, obviously Bijon want him in the flax. Don't
- 34:05Speaker 4: know if I'll play him the captain or not Barkley
- 34:08Speaker 4: both and then game well l Gier sure, maybe a
- 34:12Speaker 4: little bit like I don't want a ton of either
- 34:14Speaker 4: of those guys, to be honest with you, but yeah,
- 34:16Speaker 4: I'll play some mostly, I definitely cap it. If you,
- 34:19Speaker 4: for some reason are getting a bunch of those guys,
- 34:21Speaker 4: I definitely look to cap it. But I mean, we've
- 34:23Speaker 4: got two running backs that appear to get all the
- 34:27Speaker 4: work for the most part, Bijeon and Barkley. Barkley, to me,
- 34:31Speaker 4: gets a little boost obviously tonight with aj Brown being
- 34:34Speaker 4: ruled out. It's nice to see he's getting some deep
- 34:36Speaker 4: looks too, you know, some some thirty yard routes, twenty
- 34:39Speaker 4: yard routes for running back to Salid. So I I
- 34:44Speaker 4: won't have a ton of anyone outside of Bijeon or Barkley. Again,
- 34:49Speaker 4: you can keep game well and l gier in your
- 34:51Speaker 4: player pool, but I'd be definitely looking to cap it.
- 34:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that calling. I'm with Colton on this,
- 34:57Speaker 3: and we're gonna segue into wide receiver because I got
- 34:59Speaker 3: nothing else to add at the running back position. I
- 35:02Speaker 3: do think that Mooney is interesting tonight for sure, especially
- 35:05Speaker 3: if people going to Dotson on the other side for less.
- 35:09Speaker 3: He's four thousand, so just thinking about filling out a
- 35:11Speaker 3: flex spot that's where people would land. Even on the
- 35:13Speaker 3: other side, I think people are more likely to land
- 35:15Speaker 3: on Y Ray, McLoud or other options there. So I
- 35:19Speaker 3: definitely think I've got interest in Mooney sort of splitting
- 35:21Speaker 3: the difference there in the middle. It does look he's
- 35:23Speaker 3: like he's getting some ownership right now. We have him
- 35:26Speaker 3: up there, I think at twenty four percent, actually pretty
- 35:30Speaker 3: higher than I thought. But we've got ray Ray out
- 35:32Speaker 3: at a similar number.
- 35:33Speaker 4: So I think the reason is definitely there's just not
- 35:37Speaker 4: any true standout super cheap guys, Like there's no like
- 35:41Speaker 4: two hundred guys that are projecting well. There's just nothing
- 35:44Speaker 4: way down there that's projecting well. So anything with a
- 35:47Speaker 4: decent price tag is and then get elevated ownership for
- 35:50Speaker 4: that reason.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sort of how I'm seeing it as well,
- 35:53Speaker 3: And I was trying to see what that looks like there.
- 35:54Speaker 3: But yeah, I like that call title. I'll go to
- 35:57Speaker 3: you on wide receiver here. You can start either side
- 35:59Speaker 3: you choose, But definitely people talking about the you know,
- 36:02Speaker 3: the ray Ray, McCloud, the dots and stuff. Eagles side
- 36:05Speaker 3: is interesting because obviously with aj Brown out, if they
- 36:07Speaker 3: do elevate Paris Campbell as is expected. So where you're
- 36:10Speaker 3: at here in the wide receiver position.
- 36:13Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I like the Falcons receivers more in
- 36:16Speaker 6: the Flex than I do Eagles for the most part.
- 36:19Speaker 6: That I'm not really playing many Falcons captains outside of Bijon,
- 36:22Speaker 6: and like I will have DeVante Smith captain the Saques,
- 36:25Speaker 6: so I'm hoping if they get there, they just absolutely nuke.
- 36:29Speaker 6: And whereas I'm not really playing Drake London there. You
- 36:31Speaker 6: can leave one k from Devonte Smith to Drake London
- 36:34Speaker 6: in the Flex and that can eliminate plenty plenty chops
- 36:39Speaker 6: and get a lot bigger pay day if you do
- 36:40Speaker 6: get it there. So I will be looking to do
- 36:42Speaker 6: stuff like that. I am playing London in the Flex.
- 36:45Speaker 6: I like your Mooney Call lot right in that price range,
- 36:48Speaker 6: big time upside. I like Ray Ray McCloud a lot.
- 36:51Speaker 5: All three of them had good usage a lot of
- 36:54Speaker 5: three receiver sets last week. It's clearly those three. I'm
- 36:57Speaker 5: in on all of them.
- 36:58Speaker 6: The worst receiving prop is Ray Raymond Cloud of the
- 37:02Speaker 6: three twenty eight and a half yards, that's not bad
- 37:04Speaker 6: at all, So in on them. As far as the
- 37:06Speaker 6: other side, Yeah, obviously the easy ones. DeVante Smith, I
- 37:10Speaker 6: think I like him more than the Captain than the flex. Again,
- 37:14Speaker 6: you can easily play him in both, but my thought process,
- 37:16Speaker 6: if he gets there, he absolutely nukes.
- 37:18Speaker 5: Otherwise you can get away from it.
- 37:22Speaker 1: Um.
- 37:23Speaker 6: Yeah, like the Paris Campbell stuff, like I think it's
- 37:27Speaker 6: Johnny Wilson, but then Britton Kobe mixes in a bit,
- 37:30Speaker 6: but then there's Paris Campbell.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Like, I don't really know what to do with any
- 37:33Speaker 5: of them.
- 37:34Speaker 6: Tama, you said, obviously you would not just naturally get
- 37:37Speaker 6: two people of those three in the same lineup.
- 37:40Speaker 4: Make sure you do not.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Wilson's questionable too. That's the other thing we're waiting on here, right,
- 37:46Speaker 3: So we got to see hamstring injury and was questionable
- 37:50Speaker 3: as of yesterday. Still, so that's where people are getting
- 37:52Speaker 3: the idea of somebody else is coming in. Then it's
- 37:55Speaker 3: a Briton, Kobe or Covey with one of it, probably
- 37:58Speaker 3: be at most one of him or Campbell probably if
- 38:00Speaker 3: Campbell gets elevated and Wilson was out. But I just
- 38:04Speaker 3: don't see lineups that you're gonna end up with both
- 38:05Speaker 3: of them anyway. So to me, it's like I just
- 38:09Speaker 3: I said enough rules. I try and keep them limited
- 38:11Speaker 3: if I can. If I get that, then interesting but
- 38:14Speaker 3: very unlikely. So that would be kind of how I
- 38:16Speaker 3: would see it setting up.
- 38:17Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
- 38:19Speaker 6: just try and find out who's wide receiver three for
- 38:21Speaker 6: the Phillies behind Johan Dotson. If it's if Wilson's out
- 38:25Speaker 6: and it's the people say it's Paris Campbell or it's Kobe,
- 38:28Speaker 6: whichever one. If Wilson's out, it makes it I guess
- 38:31Speaker 6: a little easier. But one of them is gonna probably
- 38:33Speaker 6: get you zero, and the other one really might get
- 38:36Speaker 6: you zero too, because Herts is gonna be looking at
- 38:38Speaker 6: Sakuan first, Smith first, and then Johan Dotson got it
- 38:42Speaker 6: before all of them. So maybe it's just fade all
- 38:44Speaker 6: those bums because at the end of the day yet
- 38:46Speaker 6: you don't need the cheap, cheap guys down there.
- 38:48Speaker 3: So well that's I was just gonna add that too,
- 38:50Speaker 3: and hoop can Chimings he's already hit on it, but
- 38:51Speaker 3: I would. I would also say, if you get to
- 38:53Speaker 3: that point, you could almost lump together. You may group
- 38:56Speaker 3: yourself out of it, but how often is this really
- 38:58Speaker 3: gonna group yourself out of it where it's at most
- 39:01Speaker 3: one of let's say Wilson is out, I know they
- 39:04Speaker 3: you know Aaron's in there talking about it. You know
- 39:05Speaker 3: some other stuff we can do. He liked Johnny Wilson
- 39:08Speaker 3: popping as a flex spell. If he's out and they
- 39:10Speaker 3: elevate Campbell, Like someone said Britain, I think it's covey cot.
- 39:15Speaker 3: I can't never remember how he says last name but
- 39:17Speaker 3: only returns punts. You could still at most one those
- 39:20Speaker 3: two and include Calcata in the group, Like how often
- 39:23Speaker 3: are even gonna need two punts to make the whole
- 39:25Speaker 3: slate work, let alone those three? You know it's just
- 39:28Speaker 3: between one of them. Someone sneaks a random touchdown at
- 39:31Speaker 3: least then you've only got it, so you're kind of
- 39:33Speaker 3: mixing it up and then the rest of stuff can
- 39:35Speaker 3: sort of fall in line. But I definitely think it's
- 39:37Speaker 3: a possibility, and Joe just hopped in on it there.
- 39:39Speaker 3: I think it's a possibility Calkatara comes through. I think
- 39:42Speaker 3: Mooney's interesting. I think one of if Wilson's in or
- 39:47Speaker 3: Campbell is interesting more than the Dotson and mclouds that
- 39:50Speaker 3: are just gonna those are gonna lead to all the dupes.
- 39:53Speaker 3: That's what's gonna that's gonna be the dupe trains if
- 39:55Speaker 3: those ones hit, because they're good on paper and they
- 39:58Speaker 3: make everything work. So that's how I'm looking at it.
- 40:01Speaker 3: But everyone out there that's wondering, like I'm I'm playing
- 40:03Speaker 3: on that way on purpose, Like I'm not gonna I'm
- 40:06Speaker 3: gonna try and chop it as little as possible if.
- 40:08Speaker 6: I Yeah, before you go to hoop last thing, if
- 40:10Speaker 6: you're playing the ray Rays that stuff, that's like when
- 40:12Speaker 6: you leave, you drop down from Goddard to them, from
- 40:15Speaker 6: Pitts to them, from London to Mooney, Like that's the
- 40:18Speaker 6: way you got to get the level to the level
- 40:20Speaker 6: to drop it.
- 40:21Speaker 4: Talk about it, Yeah, just to I'll start, I guess
- 40:25Speaker 4: at the bottom with the cheap guys because it was
- 40:27Speaker 4: kind of like the main talking point there. I thought,
- 40:30Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts is a running quarterback, so he's gonna run
- 40:32Speaker 4: the ball. His next option is going to be a
- 40:35Speaker 4: combination of uh DeVonta Smith, Goddard and Sakwon Barkley. Right,
- 40:41Speaker 4: so there's like four offensive options before you get to
- 40:45Speaker 4: any of these guys, including Dotson. Like I initially like Dotson,
- 40:50Speaker 4: but seeing that he is, like, what ownership do we
- 40:53Speaker 4: have on Dotson?
- 40:55Speaker 5: We got him at fifteen percent.
- 40:57Speaker 4: No, it's gonna be higher than that. It's gonna be
- 40:59Speaker 4: higher once you get yeah, yeah, once you get the
- 41:01Speaker 4: update in there and everything, it's going to be higher.
- 41:03Speaker 4: But to see that he's going to be substantially higher
- 41:05Speaker 4: on than some of these other guys scares me a
- 41:07Speaker 4: little bit because I just feel like he's probably gonna
- 41:08Speaker 4: have to catch a bomb. It could have happened, Yeah, absolutely,
- 41:11Speaker 4: but it's not like he's going to get like seven
- 41:12Speaker 4: targets or anything tonight, and then you have the cheap
- 41:15Speaker 4: guys after that. So yeah, I would definitely be setting
- 41:18Speaker 4: a rule and i'd include I'd probably include Dotson to
- 41:21Speaker 4: be honest with you, I just can't imagine a scenario
- 41:23Speaker 4: where Dotson and another cheap Eagles wide receiver are unoptimal, Like,
- 41:28Speaker 4: what are the odds of that? It seems like astronomical.
- 41:31Speaker 4: I don't know the exact number, but it seems like
- 41:33Speaker 4: it would be a crazy, crazy runout for that to happen.
- 41:36Speaker 4: So I'd actually include Dotson in that group and feel
- 41:40Speaker 4: pretty good about it. I just can't see a scenario
- 41:42Speaker 4: where it's Dotson and another Eagles wide receiver that you
- 41:45Speaker 4: need in flex and those Hurtz Captain teams. I'll have
- 41:48Speaker 4: some exposure to the cheap guys, don't get me wrong,
- 41:50Speaker 4: but it's going to be small amounts. Like I'm not
- 41:53Speaker 4: going overboard on any of them. Ray Ray Mooney, I
- 41:57Speaker 4: like the Mooney call. I think he's a good play.
- 42:00Speaker 4: Ray Ray McLeod, I'm good with that seven uh seven
- 42:04Speaker 4: targets last week three K He's probably popular, But it's
- 42:07Speaker 4: crazy to me that Dotson probably ends up more popular
- 42:11Speaker 4: than guys we already know about. McLeod had a seven
- 42:15Speaker 4: target game Moon he's a legit player, and Dotson's gonna
- 42:18Speaker 4: be higher on. So it's just one thing to take
- 42:20Speaker 4: note of. Drake London, I'm not I mean again, it
- 42:24Speaker 4: could be a bias for sure, there's no doubt about it,
- 42:27Speaker 4: but like I'm not forcing him into my lineups, Like
- 42:30Speaker 4: I'll have some of them, but it's not going to
- 42:31Speaker 4: be like I want to get way overweight on Dotson
- 42:34Speaker 4: DeVonta Smith. It's going to be just like as much
- 42:36Speaker 4: as I can get he should obviously get a lot
- 42:38Speaker 4: of targets. Big upside, but I do like to call
- 42:40Speaker 4: out I can't remember which one of you guys said it,
- 42:42Speaker 4: but like almost prefer him in the captain spot because man,
- 42:46Speaker 4: like when when he does well, it seems like he
- 42:48Speaker 4: does really really well and you might just need him.
- 42:50Speaker 4: So I think he's a better captain player. Gonna play
- 42:53Speaker 4: him in the flex too, but just seems like when
- 42:55Speaker 4: he gets the job done, he gets it done in
- 42:57Speaker 4: like a huge, huge way, like slate breaking way, and
- 43:00Speaker 4: I think that covers everyone. Yeah, yeah, you can.
- 43:04Speaker 3: Also play the name game too. The Atlanta side much
- 43:07Speaker 3: more applicable. Darryl Money pay day, McCloud. You got a
- 43:11Speaker 3: couple options over there that you can roll to it.
- 43:13Speaker 3: On the other side, it's Jahan drops and if he's
- 43:16Speaker 3: dropping them balls, that ain't no good for your lineup.
- 43:18Speaker 3: So if you want to play the name game, I
- 43:20Speaker 3: think it's the Atlanta side. But I'm kind of with
- 43:22Speaker 3: you on all that stuff. Our guy knew and said,
- 43:24Speaker 3: play Dotson only in the captain no flex definitely would
- 43:28Speaker 3: get you different and then fill it in with the
- 43:30Speaker 3: best plays. But we talked about that, like that's it again.
- 43:32Speaker 3: If you're doing that, it's fine, But I would set
- 43:34Speaker 3: it up in ship demizer or whatever you're using for
- 43:36Speaker 3: your optimizer to build that to leave money on the table,
- 43:39Speaker 3: because anybody that goes to someone like him up top
- 43:42Speaker 3: is just going to fill it out with all the
- 43:43Speaker 3: best dudes and you're just in your mass mass dupe
- 43:46Speaker 3: trains that I just I'm not playing.
- 43:48Speaker 4: I'm trying to more so now than it was before
- 43:51Speaker 4: because of the soft pricing. It's like you instantly can
- 43:54Speaker 4: can get all those guys. Even in the past, like
- 43:56Speaker 4: when pricing was legit and everyone was a little more expensive,
- 43:58Speaker 4: like even if you did pump off or played chief captain,
- 44:01Speaker 4: you still had to put some thought onto it. Nowadays,
- 44:04Speaker 4: if you put in any optimizer use you put in
- 44:07Speaker 4: one of the top captains and don't change the pricing
- 44:10Speaker 4: or anything, or one of the chief captains and don't
- 44:12Speaker 4: change the max and men's salary, you're gonna get like
- 44:15Speaker 4: the exact same lineup beause it's just gonna jam in
- 44:17Speaker 4: all the expensive guys.
- 44:20Speaker 3: I'm trying to see some lineups here too, real quick
- 44:22Speaker 3: before we go to tight end, because we spent some
- 44:24Speaker 3: time there. But you know, did you see the stat too,
- 44:27Speaker 3: like the passing touchdowns are so far down, they're like
- 44:29Speaker 3: twenty off the pace of last year. Someone's like, oh great,
- 44:32Speaker 3: we're gonna get twenty passing touchdowns tonight to keep up
- 44:35Speaker 3: with it. It's obviously not the case. But if you
- 44:38Speaker 3: did lineups tonight that includes something like this, like both
- 44:41Speaker 3: running backs, a couple of tight ends, you avoid a
- 44:44Speaker 3: lot of what everybody else is talking about and realistically
- 44:47Speaker 3: titled this is a lot of volume, possibly especially if
- 44:50Speaker 3: we get those twenty seventeen scores stuff like that, Like
- 44:52Speaker 3: you if you ended up actually thinking that's gonna be
- 44:55Speaker 3: the one Saquon Bijon got her pitts. I mean, that's
- 44:59Speaker 3: definitely a different way to go. And you could still
- 45:02Speaker 3: fit quarterbacks in there, like you see what's left. You've
- 45:05Speaker 3: you've got eleven one hundred, so you can still get there.
- 45:07Speaker 3: But just to say, that's another way you could set
- 45:10Speaker 3: it up differently right where you could even get and
- 45:11Speaker 3: this can work in high scores, this can work in
- 45:14Speaker 3: low scores. And that's another thing I'm always looking at
- 45:16Speaker 3: when I'm trying to compare it out is how different
- 45:18Speaker 3: is it from the field. It's different, how much is
- 45:21Speaker 3: you know it kind of fits with what's been going on.
- 45:23Speaker 3: And then also in a low scoring game, this could
- 45:25Speaker 3: just be all the volume. In a high scoring game,
- 45:27Speaker 3: it could be all the scoring plus the volume. So
- 45:29Speaker 3: trying to look at show down a little bit differently
- 45:31Speaker 3: and certain angles in to attack, this would be one
- 45:33Speaker 3: of them for me for sure.
- 45:35Speaker 5: I love that, Yeah, I absolutely love it. I love
- 45:36Speaker 5: both running backs today and at the tight end position.
- 45:39Speaker 6: We're looking at Pitts at twenty one percent in the
- 45:42Speaker 6: flex and then god Are twenty nine percent in the flex.
- 45:45Speaker 5: Those are numbers that seem very fair to me.
- 45:47Speaker 6: So I'm definitely playing tight ends during that mid tier
- 45:50Speaker 6: price kind of where I mean Ken Drake Love and
- 45:53Speaker 6: seven eight both Kyle Pitts and Dallas Dallas Godder can
- 45:56Speaker 6: easily outscore Drake London.
- 45:58Speaker 5: There's one k minimum evings, two came inimum savings. You
- 46:02Speaker 5: can leave right there. The craziest world. Do they all
- 46:04Speaker 5: score Chris Cousins or Kurt Chris Cousins. That's how bad this? Yeah, yeah,
- 46:10Speaker 5: that's how bad he is?
- 46:12Speaker 2: Like that?
- 46:13Speaker 6: Yeah, so nine and k Cousins easily, I can drop
- 46:16Speaker 6: down and go to Pitt's, go to Goddard, save a
- 46:18Speaker 6: lot of money there. So they're gonna be on the
- 46:20Speaker 6: field a lot have two touchdown upside, very fair prices,
- 46:24Speaker 6: very fair ownership.
- 46:25Speaker 5: I'm in on the tight ends and I love that built.
- 46:27Speaker 3: Andy Dalton. Starting in week three, we just talked on
- 46:30Speaker 3: the review show take that about what they're gonna do
- 46:33Speaker 3: with Bryce Young and then you guys and I were
- 46:34Speaker 3: talking pre show about way better who we were.
- 46:37Speaker 5: Talking Yeah, even before you came in that.
- 46:40Speaker 4: Yeah, we were just talking about how betters out there.
- 46:44Speaker 4: I guess that answers the question game Oh. I mean
- 46:46Speaker 4: it's gotta be game over for him.
- 46:47Speaker 5: That would have been a long season to watch that man.
- 46:51Speaker 4: Yeah, big news, that's definitely big.
- 46:55Speaker 3: I do see these builds. I dropped in this one.
- 46:56Speaker 3: I dropped Goddard down to Calcatara. Give me a little
- 46:59Speaker 3: bit more money, give.
- 46:59Speaker 5: Me all right, let's talk about it. What are you
- 47:04Speaker 5: doing with the tight end twos? You're playing these guys.
- 47:06Speaker 3: I'm definitely playing both of them. Actually, yeah, like Charlie
- 47:10Speaker 3: what's the name old Chuck Werner he was out there
- 47:13Speaker 3: last week too, so he could get in the mix.
- 47:15Speaker 3: And Kal Katarror, who he talked about. They talked about
- 47:17Speaker 3: the twelve personnel. They talked about, you know, people looking
- 47:20Speaker 3: for you know, everyone's gonna be looking for the cheaper guy, right,
- 47:23Speaker 3: is it Johnny Wilson? Is it if he plays? Is
- 47:25Speaker 3: it Kobe at Kobe? Is it gonna be Campbell? Who's
- 47:27Speaker 3: it gonna be over there?
- 47:28Speaker 4: Well?
- 47:28Speaker 3: What if it's just cal Katara? It's the backup tight end,
- 47:31Speaker 3: Like these are the ones that can actually catch a touchdown.
- 47:34Speaker 3: You're talking seven plus points just on that, even if
- 47:37Speaker 3: it's a one yard or you're still getting something out
- 47:38Speaker 3: of it, Like that's seven points can add up to hoopspoyne.
- 47:41Speaker 3: What's been going on all season? Yeah, it's tougher to
- 47:43Speaker 3: see them happen, but it's again early in the season.
- 47:47Speaker 3: This is the type of game set where I could
- 47:48Speaker 3: see it and I need a couple guys to get
- 47:50Speaker 3: different with These ones would actually make sense to me.
- 47:52Speaker 3: They get snaps, they play, they can catch balls. It's
- 47:56Speaker 3: this is where I would still use them. But I
- 47:58Speaker 3: obviously like Pits Goddard more, and they'll be in they'll
- 48:02Speaker 3: be captain consideration, especially Goddard obviously, so tight end twos
- 48:06Speaker 3: and captain no tight end twos in in the pool absolutely,
- 48:09Speaker 3: So Yeah, well, I don't even to put the full
- 48:12Speaker 3: lineup up, but someone just put a lineup in there that, Yeah,
- 48:14Speaker 3: you're chopping it million ways especially it uses all the money.
- 48:18Speaker 3: Look it up, but it looks like it uses a
- 48:20Speaker 3: lot of the money. Just again to each their own
- 48:23Speaker 3: play showdown how you want to play it. I am
- 48:25Speaker 3: very open and honest about how I play it. When
- 48:27Speaker 3: I ship, it's usually for fifty sixty K, ninety K,
- 48:30Speaker 3: it's for a bigger number. It's not going to be
- 48:32Speaker 3: very often that it's for a light number. So that's
- 48:36Speaker 3: all in the player how you want to do it.
- 48:37Speaker 3: But for me, I'm trying to avoid that stuff. I'm
- 48:40Speaker 3: not trying to get stupid. I'm just trying to get unique.
- 48:42Speaker 3: That might be my new line. Not trying to be stupid.
- 48:45Speaker 3: I'm just trying to be unique. It's definitely something that
- 48:47Speaker 3: I'm trying to work on. So hoop anything else to
- 48:50Speaker 3: add at tight end or anything else you want to
- 48:51Speaker 3: bring up there.
- 48:52Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if that team fits, that might end
- 48:54Speaker 4: up being like the biggest chop of all time if
- 48:57Speaker 4: it hits, because that looks like the most obvious build
- 49:01Speaker 4: maybe ever. Let's say I just wanted to see what
- 49:03Speaker 4: it adds up to you.
- 49:05Speaker 3: They think because it's a five one that it's like
- 49:07Speaker 3: they're in good shape. But five ones will be much
- 49:10Speaker 3: higher tonight than we've seen all season.
- 49:11Speaker 4: Really, it's got to like almost zero out.
- 49:14Speaker 3: I'm assuming forty nine ers against the Jets, but the
- 49:17Speaker 3: Jets had all those options. Billy against green Bay, but
- 49:20Speaker 3: green Bay had all those options. Kansas City event it
- 49:23Speaker 3: does zero out, Yeah, come on, all right, hoop. If
- 49:29Speaker 3: nothing else on the tight ends, talk through kicker and defense,
- 49:32Speaker 3: because again you always have your same take on it,
- 49:34Speaker 3: new people watching different slate. And then also if you're
- 49:37Speaker 3: you are running like five ones or four two's, how
- 49:40Speaker 3: can it fit in? Like you can use these defenses
- 49:42Speaker 3: against these guys. You could have a Cousins with the
- 49:44Speaker 3: defense against them. I think there's a lot of different stuff.
- 49:46Speaker 4: You can do here. Yeah, in terms of the defense,
- 49:51Speaker 4: if you watch these shows, you know what I typically
- 49:53Speaker 4: go with. Tonight's going to be a little bit different,
- 49:56Speaker 4: just because I think there are pass where the Eagles
- 50:00Speaker 4: absolutely dominate. You have a statue back there, I mean
- 50:02Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins could not move. I mean he was struggling
- 50:04Speaker 4: to move. I could see the Eagles defense having a
- 50:08Speaker 4: lot of success tonight, and if the ownership numbers are accurate,
- 50:13Speaker 4: what do we can you pull that up real quick
- 50:15Speaker 4: the defense there, just to see what the ownership's looking like,
- 50:18Speaker 4: specifically on the on the Hegans.
- 50:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 50:23Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm gonna rare situation when I might take
- 50:26Speaker 4: an over eight stance on a defense, and that would
- 50:29Speaker 4: be with the Eagles, just because I think there's a
- 50:31Speaker 4: chance that they just beat the shit out of the
- 50:33Speaker 4: Falcons tonight and able to rack up a lot of
- 50:35Speaker 4: sacks and whatnot on Kirk Cousins. So I'll be in
- 50:38Speaker 4: on the Eagles defense in a bigger way than I
- 50:41Speaker 4: normally am on defenses. And then kickers are back, man,
- 50:45Speaker 4: kickers are back to getting the job done. And you know,
- 50:49Speaker 4: definitely like Elliott at the forty eight number. I'll have
- 50:53Speaker 4: some coup at five k, but definitely prefer Elliott forty
- 50:57Speaker 4: eight hundred. Love the kicker play there. So I'm gonna
- 51:01Speaker 4: have a lot of Eagles kicker and a lot of
- 51:02Speaker 4: Eagles defense.
- 51:04Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know if it gave us, did
- 51:06Speaker 3: it give us Coop? Let me see? Oh yeah, so
- 51:09Speaker 3: eighteen percent on him, twenty three on Elliot. It gave
- 51:12Speaker 3: us underweight on both, but pretty close on Elliot obviously
- 51:16Speaker 3: you saw him fit that sort of optimal version of
- 51:18Speaker 3: what they were trying to build out there. So you know,
- 51:21Speaker 3: I think, like I said, the defense would probably be
- 51:23Speaker 3: where I could go up up top maybe Elliott I
- 51:26Speaker 3: just it's it'd be Eagles D and Elliott. I don't
- 51:28Speaker 3: really see the Atlanta side going anywhere up top. And again,
- 51:31Speaker 3: when I do that stuff, I'm looking to leave money
- 51:33Speaker 3: on the table instead of if it fits you know,
- 51:35Speaker 3: Bijon as the workhorse, as the one guy on the
- 51:38Speaker 3: opposite side, and a five to one version of that,
- 51:40Speaker 3: well then maybe I play Mooney and I just hope
- 51:42Speaker 3: it's a late bomb to Mooney and the rest of
- 51:43Speaker 3: the guys just do their work and leave that whole
- 51:45Speaker 3: five thousand on the table. So little things like that, that's,
- 51:48Speaker 3: you know, how I'm looking at it. Anything else their
- 51:50Speaker 3: title for you. When it comes to Kickers and Defense.
- 51:53Speaker 6: I haven't won fifteen since the first night, so if
- 51:57Speaker 6: I was one fifteen, I probably would keep them in.
- 51:59Speaker 5: I usually on thirty to sixty or.
- 52:01Speaker 6: Whatever, so I I pretty much always exil captains Kickers
- 52:05Speaker 6: and the no right, wrong and different.
- 52:07Speaker 5: I just I want to jam the guys.
- 52:09Speaker 6: I like when I have more limited teams, Like you say,
- 52:11Speaker 6: the less teams you played the tighter, I almost always
- 52:14Speaker 6: play them in the flex, though, Like one way to
- 52:16Speaker 6: get different is Falcons defense will be really low owned
- 52:19Speaker 6: when you're talking Pike Alcantara, the backup tight end for
- 52:22Speaker 6: the Falcons, all that to get different. Playing Falcons will
- 52:25Speaker 6: get you different to an extent in the flex. So
- 52:28Speaker 6: that's when I'll use them. Yeah, Cousins looked awful. Definitely
- 52:30Speaker 6: have interest for Eagles. Kickers are showing upside. Like who's
- 52:34Speaker 6: saying these teams are stolen? They're kicking long field goals.
- 52:37Speaker 6: These coaches like fourth in inches and they're sending out kickers.
- 52:40Speaker 6: I mean, man, if they're.
- 52:41Speaker 4: Gonna be doing it, seems like a reversal from like
- 52:44Speaker 4: the trend of the last couple of seasons. You saw
- 52:46Speaker 4: these teams going for it. Now it's like they're fully
- 52:48Speaker 4: reversing course. And yeah, fourth and the inches, kicking a
- 52:51Speaker 4: fifty yards trying to kick it. Wrong with these people, man, you're.
- 52:55Speaker 3: On seventy yarders and sixty eight yarders thinking about it
- 52:57Speaker 3: and giving them checking it back, So yeah, they're really
- 53:00Speaker 3: getting after man.
- 53:01Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah, So if they're doing that, like
- 53:06Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins down to Jake Elliott, you leave that you
- 53:09Speaker 6: can solo shift that way all the cheese.
- 53:11Speaker 5: So I'm in on these kickers for sure.
- 53:13Speaker 4: Dude. On a side note though, all right, like how
- 53:16Speaker 4: bad were those challenges? I don't know, if you guys
- 53:18Speaker 4: watch the game, bro that was terrible like that. I
- 53:22Speaker 4: mean that was so bad both of them.
- 53:26Speaker 6: That was the most obvious inbounds, right, doesn't have to
- 53:29Speaker 6: get called down from upstairs where they're literally watching two.
- 53:33Speaker 4: Someone saw the replay and said, yeah, let's challenge that,
- 53:36Speaker 4: Like both of those were so stupid, right.
- 53:39Speaker 3: This could keep it check too. What's his name, aj
- 53:41Speaker 3: Terrell or whatever?
- 53:42Speaker 4: That guy?
- 53:42Speaker 3: Like if they are shutting some stuff down and now
- 53:45Speaker 3: they got one less guy to worry about, that could
- 53:47Speaker 3: definitely be a thing that keeps the game a little
- 53:49Speaker 3: bit closer. Just for those of you out there just
- 53:51Speaker 3: thinking like the five to one, First of all, you're
- 53:53Speaker 3: chopping in five thousand ways. Second of all, it's probably
- 53:56Speaker 3: not it may not even be a five to one night.
- 53:58Speaker 3: So lots of different things that you can set up
- 54:01Speaker 3: you know, pretty condensed offense at least somewhat on the
- 54:04Speaker 3: Atlanta side that you can still get to. So I
- 54:05Speaker 3: don't hate that. I think you can definitely play double kicker.
- 54:08Speaker 3: And I was thinking about the shirt. You have those
- 54:10Speaker 3: shirts that say I'm with stupid. Maybe on the front
- 54:13Speaker 3: it just says I'm not stupid, and on the back
- 54:16Speaker 3: it says I'm just unique. And that that's the one, right,
- 54:18Speaker 3: you know, I'm not stupid, I'm just unique. I'm just
- 54:20Speaker 3: trying to be different here, man. That's it. So I
- 54:23Speaker 3: don't have much else on the Kickers and these, I
- 54:25Speaker 3: don't have much else actually at all. But we'll have
- 54:27Speaker 3: it all up and more over on Ship and Nation.
- 54:29Speaker 3: We'll have everything covered for you there. We've got showdown
- 54:32Speaker 3: coverage for projections. We'll have the Stone. It's actually the
- 54:35Speaker 3: starting point is already up, so members can go check
- 54:37Speaker 3: it out.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Now.
- 54:37Speaker 3: We'll have our core report up, including our guy US
- 54:39Speaker 3: three and our guys Scarface. He's been on a bit
- 54:41Speaker 3: of a heater all sports lately, just finding his way
- 54:44Speaker 3: around I think it.
- 54:45Speaker 4: Ever, I don't even think he need to call it
- 54:46Speaker 4: a heater anymore.
- 54:47Speaker 3: The guy to start the season, Yeah, I mean, he's
- 54:50Speaker 3: always on hits a lifetime. He's just always the best.
- 54:53Speaker 4: But it doesn't matter the sport. I mean, he just
- 54:55Speaker 4: he just hits. Scarface, Yeah he is.
- 54:57Speaker 3: We'll see maybe get him on some of these shows
- 54:59Speaker 3: up coming. Who talked to him a little about that today.
- 55:01Speaker 3: We'll see about that set up. But hoop FanDuel, they
- 55:04Speaker 3: always like you to wrap it up with some FanDuel stuff. Yeah,
- 55:07Speaker 3: it's gonna be owned over there tonight.
- 55:09Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be massive ownership in the MVP. Spottom
- 55:13Speaker 4: he's seventeen to five. But there's a lot of cheap guys.
- 55:15Speaker 4: I'll talk about that in a second. But seventeen to
- 55:17Speaker 4: five and the captain we always talk about if the
- 55:19Speaker 4: quarterbacks have an even bigger advantage over there without the
- 55:22Speaker 4: full PPR, very tough to void, but ownership will be
- 55:26Speaker 4: massive on him. I guess another thing that stands out
- 55:30Speaker 4: is definitely these these Eagles guys are all pretty damn cheap,
- 55:34Speaker 4: so obviously no adjustment with they didn't have time to
- 55:37Speaker 4: adjust with aj Brown being out. But thirteen to five
- 55:40Speaker 4: for Barkley Bijon sixteen k so twenty five hundred dollars
- 55:44Speaker 4: difference between Barkley and in Bijon. If you happen to
- 55:47Speaker 4: like Bijon over Barkley, the ownership discrepancy should be pretty
- 55:52Speaker 4: big with that twenty five hundred dollars price break. So
- 55:54Speaker 4: that's one thing that stands out. Devanta is eleven five
- 55:58Speaker 4: Godard nine to five, very cheap price tags, with aj
- 56:04Speaker 4: Brown being ruled out. Jake Elliott, it's only eighty five hundred.
- 56:08Speaker 4: I'd like that price tag. You know, kickers less valuable
- 56:11Speaker 4: on FANDUL, but eighty five hundred is kind of the
- 56:14Speaker 4: minimum price for the kickers, I'd say over there, and
- 56:16Speaker 4: that's good. And then we have all the cheap guys.
- 56:18Speaker 4: Moody is eight k dots in seventy five hundred, Ray
- 56:21Speaker 4: Ray McLeod seven k, and then I think there's even
- 56:26Speaker 4: cheaper down low. Some of those other punts that we
- 56:28Speaker 4: talked about are in like this six K range. So
- 56:31Speaker 4: it's gonna be easy to play hurts in. The Captain
- 56:33Speaker 4: clearly the best play over there. You know, what can
- 56:36Speaker 4: you do to get different? It's even more difficult on
- 56:38Speaker 4: FanDuel to get different because you only have if you
- 56:40Speaker 4: do play hurts in the Captain, you only have four
- 56:42Speaker 4: other spots. You can think leaving cellar around the table
- 56:45Speaker 4: is going to make you unique, it's not. It's very
- 56:48Speaker 4: difficult to get unique over on FanDuel. My piece of
- 56:52Speaker 4: advice is if you're playing, if you like hurts MVP,
- 56:57Speaker 4: just probably just lock it in and get as many
- 56:59Speaker 4: different combinations as you can depending on how many teams
- 57:01Speaker 4: you make.
- 57:02Speaker 3: And I never talk about it that often, but I'm
- 57:04Speaker 3: just steering a little bit more volume and stuff. I
- 57:06Speaker 3: like FanDuel quite a bit, not as much for show
- 57:08Speaker 3: not for showdown. So don't take this the wrong way,
- 57:10Speaker 3: but I will note it now because I've been on
- 57:12Speaker 3: the site a little bit more this year to start
- 57:13Speaker 3: the season. Obviously like it for mainslate, but for a showdown,
- 57:16Speaker 3: I'm not in love with it. I wish they went
- 57:18Speaker 3: the basketball route and they had like NBA where there's
- 57:20Speaker 3: three different point projection thing. But the one thing I'll
- 57:23Speaker 3: say is they they price up other guys that usually
- 57:26Speaker 3: people would call loser plays to almost the same like
- 57:29Speaker 3: Dotson is seventy five hundred, Calcatarra is seven k. Nobody
- 57:33Speaker 3: is clicking Calkatarra over there because and maybe they shouldn't,
- 57:37Speaker 3: but that's the other way. You have to almost look
- 57:38Speaker 3: at it for these horrible showdown games they have. You
- 57:41Speaker 3: got to get the two percenters in because, like Hoop said,
- 57:43Speaker 3: even when you leave money, it doesn't necessarily do shit.
- 57:46Speaker 3: If you need like multiple two percent guys in there,
- 57:49Speaker 3: if you want to somehow do it. And you've got
- 57:51Speaker 3: to look for those spots and know that the projection
- 57:55Speaker 3: is way off, but that I'm still just gonna play
- 57:57Speaker 3: this loser just in case he catches one loser in
- 58:00Speaker 3: the sense that there's a reason nobody's on them, right,
- 58:02Speaker 3: They're not likely to do anything, nor does the projection
- 58:05Speaker 3: show that. So just another note over on FanDuel. What
- 58:09Speaker 3: was the last thing I was gonna say, Oh, it
- 58:10Speaker 3: came up here Greg. How the Listener League works is
- 58:13Speaker 3: the same every week. Just so you know and other
- 58:15Speaker 3: members know, we got it. They did make it bigger.
- 58:17Speaker 3: It's two thousand. It is still rake free. It's the
- 58:20Speaker 3: sickest payout structure going. It's twelve fifty to first, one
- 58:23Speaker 3: hundred and twenty fifth for tenth, you win one hundred
- 58:25Speaker 3: bucks for sixteenth. It's a five dollars five max. It's
- 58:29Speaker 3: the best tournament going. We put it in the discord
- 58:31Speaker 3: for members. First, fill it up as much as possible
- 58:34Speaker 3: to give the members the benefit of it being a
- 58:36Speaker 3: ship at Nation Listener League. And then I put it
- 58:39Speaker 3: out on X at Totag and Tambo and you guys
- 58:41Speaker 3: can find it there and it fills up. The quicker
- 58:43Speaker 3: we fill it, the more it goes. But the more
- 58:45Speaker 3: it grows, I should say. But also members first, So
- 58:48Speaker 3: it's in the discord, it's pinned in the channel and
- 58:51Speaker 3: titled our guy Ray.
- 58:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean hit hits title with like the best
- 58:54Speaker 4: possible compliment on the way out here. I mean, you'd
- 58:57Speaker 4: definitely like to see that.
- 58:58Speaker 5: No stroke, who raised it on.
- 59:01Speaker 3: The glasses? I thought I was giving Title a shot
- 59:03Speaker 3: to take a shot, but who comes in first over
- 59:06Speaker 3: the top. What a nice compliment any Rebut it's.
- 59:11Speaker 4: Gonna be a good night. It's gonna be a good
- 59:13Speaker 4: knight for Title when you get a compliment like that.
- 59:15Speaker 5: As long as I ship all the money that Hoop
- 59:17Speaker 5: usually does that it will be a good night. Good
- 59:20Speaker 5: night as well.
- 59:21Speaker 3: Bank account to look like Hoop. I'm good with everything else.
- 59:23Speaker 3: I'll take my bad looks as long as I can
- 59:25Speaker 3: have his bank account. We're all sat with my friends.
- 59:27Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead. Anything else, who you
- 59:30Speaker 3: got something, I'm gonna close it up.
- 59:31Speaker 5: I want his hat as well.
- 59:34Speaker 2: I got.
- 59:36Speaker 4: This is a sick cat. Yeah, I actually got on there.
- 59:38Speaker 4: I think it was at the DK store, to be honest,
- 59:40Speaker 4: I think they got him right on there.
- 59:41Speaker 3: Okay, I think we got him at the Golfly final.
- 59:44Speaker 4: Are you sure?
- 59:45Speaker 7: Yes, we were back and forth and I don't think. Yeah,
- 59:48Speaker 7: that's why we have the exact same one. Fairly certain,
- 59:51Speaker 7: all right, all right, maybe it was a gift. I
- 59:55Speaker 7: don't know either way, but it was a sick cat.
- 59:58Speaker 4: We'll say it's nice.
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: You know the addresses shipping over Yeah.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: Yeah, alright, guys, that's gonna do it for this one,
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: for Hoop, for title, and for myself. Totagg and tambo
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: let ship it.
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: M