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Ace Of Base Was A Nazi Band · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy the Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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Speaker 1: So Connor will probably be back at some point, I
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Speaker 2: Oh that's nic How are you chato? Okay, it's a
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I didn't make the Hollywood Hotel show. It
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Speaker 2: was such a fun show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we shockingly a crowd of mostly walk ins from
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Speaker 1: the Hollywood Hotel stayed for most of the show, even
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Speaker 1: through the music. And there was a woman giving me
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Speaker 1: the stink eye over that music because she was sitting
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Speaker 1: right next to the speaker and I was right across
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Speaker 1: from her, and I think she was trying to have
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Speaker 1: a shared fuck this moment with me, and I was like, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm into this, Why don't you get out of here
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Speaker 1: to jerk?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it worked out. Yeah, the Hollywood Hotel show
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Speaker 2: was fun. I like an idiot chose to go work
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Speaker 2: a sold out comedy club, two hundred people packed. Is
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Speaker 2: their eleventh year anniversary show, and they're like, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: bring ten hend whiners. They'll do short sets. How the
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Speaker 2: fuck I'm on that bill, I don't know, but I
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Speaker 2: was real excited because it's gonna get a tape for
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Speaker 2: this TV thing I'm spending for hot crowd. And then
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Speaker 2: the comic that goes up before me, I've never heard
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Speaker 2: of him. He's like traveling through I shit, you not
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Speaker 2: a French pirate. So imagine somebody dressed as a pirate
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Speaker 2: wearing a beret and an eyepatch. Okay, who plays accordion
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Speaker 2: while firing off one liners? And let me tell you
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Speaker 2: if you want a hard act to follow, I won't
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Speaker 2: comment on the clear lack of respect I have for
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Speaker 2: the amount of crutch is used in that act. Right,
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Speaker 2: the writing wasn't strong, But there's something with people about
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Speaker 2: like this is different. He ended ups on. I got
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Speaker 2: a clap that they were just not ready for actual jokes,
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Speaker 2: and man did I flounder?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, following those one liner types is difficult. Sometimes one
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Speaker 1: liner isn't the difficult part, it's the well, the accordion.
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Speaker 2: I will not an accordion pirate like any of those things.
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Speaker 2: If you're like, I had to follow guy with a
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Speaker 2: high iPad, you'd be like, okay, I had to follow
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Speaker 2: a guy with an accordion. Okay, I had to follow
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Speaker 2: I had to follow French pirate with an eye passion,
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Speaker 2: an accordion. Man, I was not, so I didn't. I
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Speaker 2: should have come down and done a set afterwards to
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Speaker 2: redeem myself, and I'm just like, I don't. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to be anything comedy for the rest of the night.
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Speaker 2: I understand. I want to find a fat burger and
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Speaker 2: eat a fat burger two in the morning. Got the
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Speaker 2: fat burger.
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Speaker 1: It's a nice cube reference. How do you feel about
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories since you've never done this show.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a time and a place that they're
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Speaker 2: not all crazy, they're not all insane, but also a
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Speaker 2: lot of them are insane. Like anything tied to Alex
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Speaker 2: Jones go fuck yourself.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I have an Alex Jones conspiracy theory, which
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Speaker 1: is that Alex Jones is actually connected to the US
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Speaker 1: government and just spreads misinformation to discredit people who might
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Speaker 1: actually uncover actual information that the world would want to hear.
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Speaker 2: Which I played right into that because I said, anything
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Speaker 2: this guy says is bullshit. So if somebody actually did
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Speaker 2: have a credible conspiracy theory, Alex Jones was pushing it hard,
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, look at his track record. No thanks,
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Speaker 2: yeah exactly.
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Speaker 1: Are there any conspiracies in particular that you have looked
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Speaker 1: into and believe?
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Speaker 2: I don't know about believe, but I certainly do get
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Speaker 2: sucked into the nine to eleven stuff. As the nine
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Speaker 2: to eleven boards blinking at me, ah, shout out to
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Speaker 2: the nine to eleven board. It's not that I definitively
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Speaker 2: think it was a full conspiracy, just the amount of
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Speaker 2: of arguments and different angles people take in different videos
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Speaker 2: that are out there, like there are seemingly compelling arguments.
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Speaker 1: And see that actually ties in pretty well to my
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Speaker 1: opinion on Alex Jones, because I do believe there's a
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Speaker 1: conspiracy and cover up regarding nine to eleven, and people
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Speaker 1: like Alex Jones push the really crazy version where it
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Speaker 1: was like Bush planned it and it was an inside
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Speaker 1: job what I think it was with Saudi Arabia, most
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Speaker 1: of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. There was for
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Speaker 1: a long time this rumor or legend that a Saudi
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Speaker 1: intelligence agent came to the United States and met with
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Speaker 1: some of the hijackers before nine to eleven. And there
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Speaker 1: were all these pages of the nine to eleven report
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Speaker 1: that were classified for years and years and years, and
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Speaker 1: they finally declassified them, and sure enough that Saudi intelligence
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Speaker 1: officer did come to the United States and he did
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Speaker 1: meet with some of the high hijackers before nine to eleven.
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Speaker 1: But Saudi Arabia is such an ally to us, like
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Speaker 1: the families of nine to eleven victims wanted to sue
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Speaker 1: the Saudi government, and fucking Obama blocked them from being
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Speaker 1: able to do it. So I think people like Alex
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Speaker 1: Jones spread like loose change type shit, which is the
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Speaker 1: big nine to eleven documentary, to the benefit of the
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Speaker 1: US government because it keeps us because otherwise we'd all
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Speaker 1: probably really be hitting on that Saudi Arabia thing and
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Speaker 1: be like, why the fuck did we go to Iraq
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Speaker 1: and Afghanistan when most of the hijackers were Saudi's.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like what prompted that? Just needed to get people
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Speaker 2: to swing emotionally enough to get behind it.
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Speaker 1: But now if you just even mentioned that you have
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Speaker 1: any doubts about the official explanation of nine to eleven,
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Speaker 1: you're just written off as a crazy person. So in
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Speaker 1: that way, someone like Alex Jones is really effective.
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Speaker 2: Now nine to eleven. People always get stuck on the
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Speaker 2: two tower. Is not that they aren't significant bright it means,
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Speaker 2: but do you have any specific thoughts or beliefs surrounding
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Speaker 2: the plane that went down Pennsylvania or the Pentagon? Which
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Speaker 2: it always surprises me how much the Pentagon getting hit
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Speaker 2: by a plane supposedly is overlooked.
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Speaker 1: The Pentagon one is really weird. The Pentagon plane. There's
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Speaker 1: one witness to the plane hitting and that's it, right,
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Speaker 1: that's it. Well, no, there's people who saw the plane approaching,
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Speaker 1: but there's only somehow one guy who was in the
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Speaker 1: vicinity of the White House during rush hour traffic in Washington, DC.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is, his account of the direction the
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Speaker 1: plane's coming from differs from everyone else. Everyone else says
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Speaker 1: it was coming from a different way. And if you look,
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Speaker 1: you can find videos about this guy online. What he
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Speaker 1: says is that this plane knocked over a light pole
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Speaker 1: and that the light pole fell into the windshield of
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Speaker 1: his car. And if you look at his car, the
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Speaker 1: light pole is sticking through it. But there's no damage
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Speaker 1: to the hood of the car none, not a scratch
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Speaker 1: how and actually the pictures you just see the whole
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Speaker 1: you don't even see the light pole.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, it's been a while since I watched this.
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Speaker 2: But there's also throughout like how would a plane possibly yeah,
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Speaker 2: like the angle at which it would have to come
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Speaker 2: down and clip all sorts of things.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pentagon, there's some weirdness around the Pentagon. I
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Speaker 1: think Flight ninety three was shot down and I wish
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Speaker 1: they would just tell us because I'd be fine with it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense, but it's what you're supposed
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Speaker 2: to do in those situations.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it makes sense to cover up
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Speaker 1: what really happened and turn it into a major motion picture.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's better. I mean, it's it's one of
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Speaker 2: those things where it's so stupid that it works, like
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Speaker 2: where you just shove something in people's face and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that Andrew WK conspiracy.
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Speaker 1: Now I don't either, although the people working at that
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Speaker 1: club that night do say Andrew WK was acting very weird.
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Speaker 1: But people have Yeah, people have off nights. That doesn't
9:02
Speaker 1: mean they're replaced by an impostor. Except Avril Levine, she's
9:05
Speaker 1: probably been replaced.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did that episode years ago back at
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Speaker 2: the old Cracked office about like right different child stars
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Speaker 2: that were basically like raped and thrown in ditches. That
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Speaker 2: sounds awful. That was Miley Cyrus.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's the vivid example that are not vivid,
9:23
Speaker 1: but like the yeah we did that was like an
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Speaker 1: example that was basically a precursor to Conspiracy. The show
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Speaker 1: that was an episode of Unpopular opinion that we talked
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Speaker 1: about those same disappearances and imposter type conspiracies as they
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Speaker 1: relate to celebrities.
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Speaker 2: And that's go ahead. I was just gonna say a
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Speaker 2: lot of people. Probably the biggest conspiracy that I have
9:45
Speaker 2: an issue with is people that say, uh, Columbus is
9:48
Speaker 2: a nice city, Columbus, Ohio. You're bringing that to this
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Speaker 2: podcast where no one. Oh, I don't understand the references
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Speaker 2: chets making because I only listened to Conspiracy the podcast. Well, sure,
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Speaker 2: Man Only how many more to go? Fifty seven? Would
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Speaker 2: would definitely be fifty. But there's gonna be a very
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Speaker 2: funny thing that happens. It'll be episode sixty. You said it,
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Speaker 2: If that's not funny to either, you don't need to
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Speaker 2: get any repers. That's just objective way good comedy. That's
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Speaker 2: just good quality colmed. But also, we don't stand for
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Speaker 2: Nazi shit on Good Luck America, Adam, what do you
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Speaker 2: frequently say about, Hey, if you don't want to be
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Speaker 2: compared to a Nazi.
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Speaker 1: Don't align yourself with Nazis. Yeah, don't vote for a Nazi.
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Speaker 1: That everything we just talked about kind of ties into
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about next because you mentioned cracked, and
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Speaker 1: this theory we're going to talk about today, in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: is not even a conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 2: It's just facts. And one issue I have with your article,
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Speaker 2: and I'll we'll get to it in a bit, is
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Speaker 2: the most blatant thing that backs up your case. You
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Speaker 2: didn't even mention in the article. What's that? I got
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Speaker 2: the icing on the cake. We'll get to it. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I feel like you're doing a bit right now.
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Speaker 1: I've never done a bit on this podcast over because
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Speaker 1: you've never been on this podcast on this podcast network.
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Speaker 1: I am bit free, but bitless wilde they call me.
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Speaker 1: And the thing about conspiracy, this this particular podcast. I
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Speaker 1: think this is probably the one that gets the most
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Speaker 1: listens from people who don't listen to the rest of
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Speaker 1: our shit.
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Speaker 2: All right, no references. We put it on Spotify for
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Speaker 2: a while.
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Speaker 1: Well, no, that I'm more justifying why I'm doing this
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Speaker 1: episode because we did this episode once as an unpopular
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Speaker 1: opinion episode, and man, this is an idea that needs
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Speaker 1: to get more attention because I am one hundred percent
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Speaker 1: correct in this shit and I have no doubts about that.
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Speaker 2: So I'm the guy that said Trump would get elected.
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Speaker 1: So I did say Trump would get elected, and he did.
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Speaker 1: And I actually this is the this article I wrote
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Speaker 1: the week after the Trump article, and it's an article
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Speaker 1: about how the band Ace of Bass was actually a
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Speaker 1: Nazi or a white nationalist or white supremacist band. And
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Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing it again is because I don't.
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the conspiracy the show
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Speaker 1: audience hasn't been exposed to this yet, and it's like
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Speaker 1: it's like one of my defining moments in life because
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Speaker 1: the way I found this it was also like coincidental and.
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Speaker 2: Weird, and there's no such thing as coincidences. You were
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Speaker 2: meant for this. It's your greater purpose.
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Speaker 1: My destiny, to take down a band that hasn't released
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Speaker 1: an album almost in two decades.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll play my living room.
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Speaker 1: If you don't want to be called a Nazi, don't
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Speaker 1: associate with not. But we could put them on the spot.
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Speaker 1: We could trick them and then be like, tell us
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Speaker 1: the Nazis. Yeah, And see, here's the thing. The Nazi
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Speaker 1: background of a SA bass is actually pretty well known.
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Speaker 1: That part is not a secret. There was an article
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Speaker 1: by Vice Music editor Ben Shapiro, not not that Ben
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Speaker 1: make that very clear. He wrote an article a few
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Speaker 1: years back that revealed ASA base founder Ulf Eckberg, who
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Speaker 1: I believe they refer to as Smurf, was once in
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Speaker 1: a Nazi punk band called Commit Suicide suicide spelled with
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Speaker 1: two s's your.
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Speaker 2: Nazi impression sounds oddly racist towards Japanese people. For some reason,
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Speaker 2: sounded like somebody doing a bad impression of a Kami
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Speaker 2: Kazi pilot.
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Speaker 1: Listen, Japan committed a lot of atrocities in World War Two.
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of suicides. That's what I was
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Speaker 2: going with there.
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Speaker 1: And here's a sample of that band's translated lyrics.
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Speaker 2: I'll let you read this one at him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, men in white hoods marched down the road. We
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Speaker 1: enjoy ourselves when we're sawing off n words heads. And
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Speaker 1: they did not say n word. They said the real
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Speaker 1: word immigrant. We hate you out out, out out Nordic people,
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Speaker 1: wake up now.
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Speaker 2: Shoot shoot shoot shoot? Why did they gotta bring Nordic
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Speaker 2: people into this? See, I love me some Norway. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to Norway, fucking deal with. Maybe you can join
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Speaker 2: ASA bass. They probably need a drummer and I'll audition
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Speaker 2: and then the band will never get back to me.
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Speaker 2: Deep references, Listen to the other pods. Yeah, that is
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Speaker 2: a deep reference.
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Speaker 1: And this article he wrote it ends basically asking the question,
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Speaker 1: did this guy start a sub bass to kind of
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Speaker 1: wipe the slate clean and hide his Nazi past?
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Speaker 2: Well, the original name of the band was Master Race
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Speaker 2: of Bass actually, so that's that's where the name comes from.
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Speaker 2: But they just took off the master r I get.
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Speaker 2: I got one of these. I get to keep funny
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Speaker 2: on this podcast. And so here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: He asked that question, and the answer to that question
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Speaker 1: is no, he did not use ASA Bass to hide
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Speaker 1: his Nazi past, because ASA Bass is also a Nazi band.
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Speaker 1: Like blatantly, I almost we were gonna do this episode
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Speaker 1: on Sunday with Tom Ryman and David Bell, who worked
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Speaker 1: with me at Cracked at the time. And right around
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Speaker 1: the same time I wrote this article, he wrote an
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Speaker 1: article about how the Muppets caused nine to eleven, and
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Speaker 1: people in the comments were just like, yeah, man, I
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Speaker 1: wish you'd taken this a little more seriously. This like
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Speaker 1: this sounds legit and he was joking. And then I
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Speaker 1: write this and I'm deadly serious. It includes visual aids
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Speaker 1: to help you see everything I'm talking about, and people
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Speaker 1: are like, this feels like a reach, Like it feels
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Speaker 1: like a reach that a former Nazi incorporated Nazi imagery
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Speaker 1: into his new band.
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Speaker 2: Why the tagline of the website is America's Only humor website.
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Speaker 1: So well, that's because when I was there, it was
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Speaker 1: the only humor website.
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Speaker 2: Now there's no humor website exactly. Wamp wamp. Sorry. Fox
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Speaker 2: News can be funny in it's ownly. Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 1: So I want to go through some of the the
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Speaker 1: signs that.
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Speaker 2: Man, you don't even know.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even intend to do that. Man, I want
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Speaker 1: to go through some of the sign just like the
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Speaker 1: ones they saw, the signs I saw. When I saw
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Speaker 1: the sign that told me a sabasse was a bunch
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Speaker 1: of fucking.
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Speaker 2: Nazis, I just thought it said I saw the sun.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't even know it was sign until, like.
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Speaker 1: Travis Clark thought the second line of good Vibration by
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Speaker 1: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, the chorus where they say.
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Speaker 2: It's such a good.
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Speaker 1: He thought the second line was it's that sweet Dixie charm.
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Speaker 2: What is the actual lyric? I know it's not that,
17:41
Speaker 2: but it's a sweet sensation sweet. I don't know how
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Speaker 2: what the fuck?
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Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite misheard lyrics probably ever. I
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Speaker 1: was so baffled when he brought that up on a
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Speaker 1: podcast that we were live streaming in front of all
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Speaker 1: the world to see. I did cut it out and
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Speaker 1: put it in the outtakes, but I didn't put it
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Speaker 1: in the public episode. But now this is a public
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Speaker 1: episode and I just put it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the weekly outtakes episode when you subscribe
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Speaker 2: But we still love you anyway.
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Speaker 1: Baby. Hashtag plugs, hashtag plugs, bak on track, back on track.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the first thing that caught my attention
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Speaker 1: when it comes to this story. Think about the name.
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Speaker 1: It's Ace of Bass, but it's not b ass as
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Speaker 1: you would expect. We might think it was best well,
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Speaker 1: but still it's a band they that makes like fucking
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Speaker 1: house music or technomia, whatever the fuck this band made,
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Speaker 1: and so you would expect it to be bass, but
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Speaker 1: it's not.
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Speaker 2: It's Ace of Bass B A S. E.
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Speaker 1: And what first tipped me off that that might be
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Speaker 1: something weird. There's a show I don't know if it's
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Speaker 1: still on Netflix, but you can find it out there.
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Speaker 1: It's a documentary series called Nazi megaweapons. And the second
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Speaker 1: episode of the first season is about the Caraman Submarine Base,
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Speaker 1: and this was The Caraman Submarine Base was a huge,
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Speaker 1: just massive U boat launching facility that was in the
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Speaker 1: French town of Laurient, and it was one of the
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Speaker 1: most ambitious and important projects of the entire Nazi war machine.
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Speaker 1: In nineteen forty one alone, missions originating from this base
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Speaker 1: took out more than five hundred Allied ships sound and
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Speaker 1: that's in one year. And it was so well constructed.
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Speaker 1: The Allies built a bomb specifically, built a new bomb
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Speaker 1: specifically to try and take out this facility, which they
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Speaker 1: were not able to do.
19:50
Speaker 2: They called a tall Boy. Yeah.
19:52
Speaker 1: They eventually neutralized it by literally flattening the entire city
19:58
Speaker 1: around it so these U boats could not reach it,
20:01
Speaker 1: but the Nazis maintained control of it through the end
20:04
Speaker 1: of the war. We never got it from them. If
20:06
Speaker 1: you were a Nazi historian on the wrong side of
20:10
Speaker 1: history where you study Nazis and you're like, yeah, I
20:13
Speaker 1: wish this would have worked out. God damn it, I
20:15
Speaker 1: love these dudes so much. The Kraman facility is something
20:20
Speaker 1: you would know and something you would probably take a
20:22
Speaker 1: little bit of pride in as a Nazi sympathizer yourself,
20:27
Speaker 1: because the Nazis took a lot of pride in it.
20:29
Speaker 1: Because the Allies never took it from them. You don't
20:32
Speaker 1: have to call them Nazi sympathizers. You can call them
20:34
Speaker 1: what they are, Nazis.
20:36
Speaker 2: And here's the thing.
20:38
Speaker 1: Because most of Germany's top U boat captains launched their
20:44
Speaker 1: missions from here, from this Caraman facility, they called the
20:48
Speaker 1: Kraman Submarine Facility the base of Aces, Base of Aces.
20:56
Speaker 1: So flip ASA base around, Yeah, could you draw this
20:59
Speaker 1: up there?
20:59
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I?
21:00
Speaker 1: Can I point it out anymore? The Base of Aces?
21:04
Speaker 1: And when I heard that, I had not read this
21:06
Speaker 1: Vice article. I did not give a shit enough about
21:09
Speaker 1: ASA Base to know anything that had transpired with them
21:13
Speaker 1: since the early nineties when they were making music.
21:16
Speaker 2: And I heard that.
21:16
Speaker 1: And was like, man, what if Ace of Bass's name
21:21
Speaker 1: is a Nazi reference? So then I went out and
21:23
Speaker 1: hit the Googles and I find this Vice article that
21:27
Speaker 1: makes it very clear that one of the founding members
21:31
Speaker 1: at least used to be a Nazi, presumably no longer.
21:36
Speaker 1: But because that's how Nazism works, you just wake up yeah,
21:39
Speaker 1: you just grow out of it one day.
21:41
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
21:43
Speaker 1: It's possible that that is, well, I should explain Asa Basse.
21:47
Speaker 1: Their explanation for the band name is that, well, the
21:50
Speaker 1: studio is like our bass and we're like the masters
21:55
Speaker 1: of the studio. And it's like, all right, well, why
21:57
Speaker 1: aren't you called masters of bass? Then why are you
22:00
Speaker 1: called ace of Bass? And why is it basse? And
22:04
Speaker 1: that's their explanation, which I guess.
22:07
Speaker 2: But they only put out one album. H this was
22:10
Speaker 2: their first album, right, how are you a master of
22:11
Speaker 2: something if you haven't put out anything else? Good point.
22:14
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I know, maybe there's a lot
22:17
Speaker 1: of skeptics who listened to this podcast just to I
22:20
Speaker 1: don't know, hate listen to it. Who people who just
22:23
Speaker 1: assume every conspiracy theory is fake. Ask yourself, what is
22:27
Speaker 1: more likely that this band that consists of at least
22:33
Speaker 1: one Nazi, a dude who has a history of being
22:37
Speaker 1: in a very vile Nazi band in the past. What's
22:41
Speaker 1: more likely that he just threw together three words that
22:45
Speaker 1: just happened to kind of sound similar to a Nazi reference,
22:49
Speaker 1: or that he knows this is a Nazi reference, but
22:52
Speaker 1: also knows it's a Nazi reference. Most people who aren't
22:55
Speaker 1: Nazis aren't gonna get like. I only picked up on
22:59
Speaker 1: this because Trump was on the verge of getting elected.
23:02
Speaker 1: So I was taken in a bunch of Nazi ship
23:04
Speaker 1: to figure out what we're what we're up against. And
23:07
Speaker 1: that's the only way I made the connection between ace
23:10
Speaker 1: of basse in this Caraman submarine facility. Most people would
23:14
Speaker 1: not pick up on ace of Bass as a Nazi reference. Now,
23:18
Speaker 1: I if I had, if I was a Nazi band,
23:20
Speaker 1: I would have named it way more on the notes,
23:22
Speaker 1: like we Hitler's whistled be a barbershop quartet that only
23:28
Speaker 1: whistles that hitler esque music.
23:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's hitler esque music? I don't know, Yeah, but
23:38
Speaker 2: whistling it. I should have got water before we came
23:43
Speaker 2: up here. You gotta what I am parched? What Hitler's whistle?
23:48
Speaker 2: Just come on, that's objectively a good name.
23:51
Speaker 1: That's not a bad name. Not a bad name, not
23:53
Speaker 1: a bad name. But and don't worry, I'm not This
23:56
Speaker 1: isn't the extent of my feelings. This.
24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sold jad Adam. I'll play Devil's advocatete.
24:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, but everyone who's read this article is pretty much
24:06
Speaker 1: sold except Patton Oswalt for some reason. Oh my god,
24:09
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, he tweeted it and he said what
24:12
Speaker 1: he said. I'm still not convinced. It's like, why why not?
24:17
Speaker 1: Because it's not cool to say you believe a conspiracy theory.
24:20
Speaker 1: That's not even a conspiracy theory.
24:23
Speaker 2: It's just me.
24:23
Speaker 1: Laying out a bunch of really obvious, blatant Nazi imagery
24:29
Speaker 1: that you can find in several Asa Bass songs. I
24:32
Speaker 1: guess that doesn't necessarily make them a Nazi band. It
24:35
Speaker 1: just definitely makes them a Nazi band. So the first
24:39
Speaker 1: that the name is the first thing that is an
24:43
Speaker 1: it's an obscure Nazi reference, because I only aside from
24:47
Speaker 1: the Nazi mega weapons thing, I went looking around for
24:50
Speaker 1: other examples of this Caramoun facility being referred to as
24:54
Speaker 1: the base of Aces, and I found it in one
24:56
Speaker 1: book that I found on Google Books and and everywhere else.
25:00
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of a low key Nazi reference, exactly
25:04
Speaker 1: the kind of thing some fuckstick Nazi who thinks he's
25:08
Speaker 1: smarter than everyone else would figure he could just sneak
25:11
Speaker 1: by everyone without them knowing. And here's the thing. He
25:15
Speaker 1: was right, He was right. It did get by everyone.
25:19
Speaker 1: It was the Ann Frank of band names, but not
25:21
Speaker 1: this guy. No, I caught it. God damn it, just
25:24
Speaker 1: in time, something like that's a good band name, just
25:28
Speaker 1: in time, twenty years after the album, taking a.
25:30
Speaker 2: Good stage name, just in time, Like.
25:33
Speaker 1: No, that's I'm sure there's several people with that stage name,
25:36
Speaker 1: and I hate them all. So that's the first thing.
25:39
Speaker 1: The name is a fucking Nazi reference. And now let's
25:43
Speaker 1: talk about Happy Nation for one thing, the album we
25:46
Speaker 1: all know and love except me. I fucking hated this
25:49
Speaker 1: band for I don't like this album either, and my
25:52
Speaker 1: parents had it.
25:53
Speaker 2: They had this Genesis is Invisible Touch and the Tractors,
25:58
Speaker 2: I forget the name of the album. I remember those
26:00
Speaker 2: three CDs being next to each other. Yeah. Luckily Genesis
26:03
Speaker 2: was my greatest influence of those three.
26:07
Speaker 1: Fortunately. Yeah, otherwise you'd be irate right now on this podcast.
26:10
Speaker 2: The Tractors, what was that? Forgot even now? But yeah.
26:16
Speaker 1: The the album that most people know as The Sign
26:20
Speaker 1: was actually released in Sweden initially as an album called
26:24
Speaker 1: Happy Nation, and the song Happy Nation is still on
26:28
Speaker 1: the version that made its way to the United States,
26:32
Speaker 1: and the song Happy Nation is one hundred percent a
26:36
Speaker 1: song about Adolf Hitler, Like they could not be more
26:40
Speaker 1: obvious about it. For starters, it kicks off, let's listen
26:45
Speaker 1: to it while we talk. That's a that's an experience.
26:48
Speaker 1: Let listen the first time. Didn't get this song starts
26:55
Speaker 1: off with a chant by the former Nazi in the band.
27:02
Speaker 1: And because it's a weird like mishmash of Latin and Hebrew,
27:09
Speaker 1: no one's ever like one accurately translated it because you
27:12
Speaker 1: can't because it's not an actual language.
27:14
Speaker 2: He's like throwing a bunch of shit together.
27:16
Speaker 1: But among the translations out there, it's usually a variation
27:21
Speaker 1: of this, on the wings of the eagle, with God's help,
27:26
Speaker 1: I was.
27:27
Speaker 2: There before everyone. In the meantime, I will kill you.
27:31
Speaker 1: I was there before everyone, So on the wings of
27:35
Speaker 1: an egle, on the wings of an eagle. You say
27:39
Speaker 1: that's and a Nazi. I mean it also says I
27:43
Speaker 1: will kill you, which is ominous, but.
27:52
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to pause it. Let's this is the
27:56
Speaker 2: that man nazis wanting to get every rid of everyone
27:59
Speaker 2: to have more of yikes. Yeah, exactly.
28:02
Speaker 1: This is that opening verse, which is actually the chorus
28:06
Speaker 1: happy Nation, living in a happy nation where people understand
28:11
Speaker 1: and dream of the perfect man, a situation leading to
28:16
Speaker 1: sweet salvation for the people, for the cook, for the good,
28:21
Speaker 1: for the mankind brotherhood. If I'm not mistaken, the Nazis
28:26
Speaker 1: did have some interest in creating the perfect man, actually
28:31
Speaker 1: the perfect race.
28:32
Speaker 2: Of Marian race. Yeah, remember when they were called aryan
28:36
Speaker 2: ace of baise known.
28:38
Speaker 1: But that's that's at least sounds suspicious because why else
28:44
Speaker 1: is a Sabasse a band whose name is a Nazi
28:48
Speaker 1: reference and was founded by a dude who was in
28:51
Speaker 1: a Nazi band. Why are they like you gotta stack it, baby,
28:55
Speaker 1: stack it all up. Throw this that that in the
28:59
Speaker 1: opening they won on the wings of an eagle, but
29:02
Speaker 1: also perfect man, like that is a Nazi ideal.
29:07
Speaker 2: Stack it on top of your conspiracy. Stack it sack
29:10
Speaker 2: for conspiracy. Is this is a Nazi cheeseburger. And you're
29:13
Speaker 2: starting with nothing, but you've given us the bread, and
29:16
Speaker 2: now you've thrown some lettuce and tomato on that bread.
29:19
Speaker 1: Right, And there's more in the song happy Nation, give
29:23
Speaker 1: us that mayo, because there's there's the dream of the
29:25
Speaker 1: perfect man bit, which you can argue with me about
29:28
Speaker 1: what that could mean otherwise. But I will not fucking
29:31
Speaker 1: believe you. And this is the second verse, ideas by
29:35
Speaker 1: man and only that will last. And over time we've
29:40
Speaker 1: turned to the past that no man's fit to rule
29:43
Speaker 1: the world alone. A man will die, but not his ideas.
29:47
Speaker 1: Can you think of a man who tried to rule
29:49
Speaker 1: the world alone at any point that a band founded
29:54
Speaker 1: by a Nazi whose name is a Nazi reference, who
29:58
Speaker 1: just sang about building the perfect man? Can you think
30:02
Speaker 1: of a leader who tried any of that?
30:05
Speaker 2: Seems like you have sported some male on those buts
30:08
Speaker 2: what Oh, this bit's killing it. And here's the thing.
30:14
Speaker 1: It gets that part gets even fucking worse because I
30:18
Speaker 1: understand if you're like, no, I want to give you.
30:20
Speaker 1: I'm still going to give this band the benefit of
30:22
Speaker 1: the doubt for some reason. Chat, I want you to
30:25
Speaker 1: direct your attention to the TV screen and tell me
30:28
Speaker 1: if you can see what flies through the air when
30:30
Speaker 1: she says a man might die, but not his ideas.
30:33
Speaker 2: It's very quick. Origin Species, Original Species.
30:44
Speaker 1: Yes, what it actually says is on the Origin of
30:46
Speaker 1: Species by Charles Darwin.
30:49
Speaker 2: Which was a book, which was a book that title
30:52
Speaker 2: seems cruncated. Here's the full title, chat on the Origin
30:56
Speaker 2: of Species by means of natural selection or the Preservation
31:01
Speaker 2: of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life?
31:05
Speaker 1: Why is that in an Asa basis any other text?
31:10
Speaker 1: That is the only fucking book title that pops up
31:14
Speaker 1: in this video videos a fucking Nazi. I have no idea,
31:21
Speaker 1: but like, I feel like I could stop there because
31:25
Speaker 1: we have founded by a former Nazi. You got bread,
31:29
Speaker 1: got the bread, the band, the band name, potential Nazi reference.
31:35
Speaker 1: I'll even just say potential. You got the the Wings
31:38
Speaker 1: of the Eagle and the Perfect Man Mayo, which come
31:41
Speaker 1: right in the beginning of the song. And then then
31:45
Speaker 1: you have the verse about how one man can't rule
31:48
Speaker 1: the world and he might die, but his ideas won't.
31:51
Speaker 1: And as soon as she says his ideas won't, a
31:54
Speaker 1: book about the preservation of favored races pops off in
31:59
Speaker 1: the ski and chat. That book is one of the
32:04
Speaker 1: books that Adolf Hitler based the Nazi ideology off of.
32:09
Speaker 1: That's one of the tragic things about that book because
32:11
Speaker 1: it's not a racist book. It's dealing with like evolution
32:16
Speaker 1: basically people positive things. Yeah that people interpret it for
32:21
Speaker 1: their own gains. Well, that sounds to me like two
32:24
Speaker 1: pieces of chiefe. They're adam right, give me that hamburger.
32:28
Speaker 1: You want that hamburger. Che are getting really uncomfortable with this,
32:31
Speaker 1: but it's fine, we'll keep going. So so there's that,
32:35
Speaker 1: there's Happy Nation. There's the fact that the album title
32:38
Speaker 1: was changed from Happy Nation to the Sign because maybe
32:42
Speaker 1: people in the US would have seen Happy Nation and
32:44
Speaker 1: been like.
32:44
Speaker 2: What Now that I would say is the weakest point
32:47
Speaker 2: of your arguments.
32:48
Speaker 1: It's not okay, but it's also not one of my points.
32:52
Speaker 1: I didn't like put it in the notes here, but
32:55
Speaker 1: it was.
32:56
Speaker 2: Read the article. But but okay, I won't after you
33:00
Speaker 2: on that point. Then well, no, what what? Just the
33:04
Speaker 2: Americans are dumb? So you just named the fucking album
33:06
Speaker 2: what the popular song is? Yeah?
33:08
Speaker 1: And also the Sign isn't on the version that was
33:11
Speaker 1: released in Sweden, So yeah, that's fine. So now let's
33:16
Speaker 1: talk about all that she wants. Because this album had
33:19
Speaker 1: three big singles, the Sign, which there's so much going
33:23
Speaker 1: on in that video.
33:24
Speaker 2: I don't that's like alien Nazis.
33:26
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck is happening in that video,
33:29
Speaker 1: and their other big single, was Don't turn Around, which
33:34
Speaker 1: is a Tina Turner cover, so probably not a lot
33:36
Speaker 1: of Nazi references in that. But then there's All that
33:39
Speaker 1: She Wants No go, let's hear it. I need to
33:43
Speaker 1: hear it.
33:44
Speaker 2: The Ike Turner actually wrote the lyrics true story, I
33:49
Speaker 2: can't can't make abuse jokes like that was good.
33:56
Speaker 1: Check yeah, because he'll hit you in the face because
34:00
Speaker 1: he's like Turner man.
34:04
Speaker 2: So the other single, All that She Wants.
34:07
Speaker 1: Is a baby and the band what have you believe?
34:13
Speaker 1: This song is about a woman who just sleeps around
34:16
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to like, she doesn't want to have
34:20
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. She wants to have a lot of boyfriends.
34:22
Speaker 1: But if you look at the lyrics, it's a lot more.
34:27
Speaker 1: It sounds a lot more like a woman who doesn't
34:31
Speaker 1: want to work and wants to have a baby so
34:34
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to work. And this is the first verse.
34:38
Speaker 1: When she woke up late in the morning light and
34:40
Speaker 1: the day had just begun, she opened up her eyes
34:43
Speaker 1: and thought, oh what a morning. It's not a day
34:45
Speaker 1: for work, It's a day for catching tan, just laying
34:49
Speaker 1: on the beach and having fun.
34:51
Speaker 2: She's going to get you now. The Nazis tan, because
34:54
Speaker 2: that would take away from your whiteness. To what degree
34:57
Speaker 2: is it acceptable for a Nazi? I'm as like, to
35:01
Speaker 2: what shade of white? How many shades down? There were
35:03
Speaker 2: some pretty tan Nazis.
35:05
Speaker 1: A lot of them worked out like outdoors and took
35:08
Speaker 1: their shirts off and things, showed off their big Nazi chests.
35:11
Speaker 1: I mean, they were like the worker bees. All the
35:13
Speaker 1: higher ups stayed inside and got all pasty white. But
35:16
Speaker 1: there were some tan Nazis, but no one's deliberately getting
35:19
Speaker 1: But also this, this person in the song isn't a Nazi.
35:23
Speaker 1: They're singing about a Jewish person. And if you're wondering, well,
35:29
Speaker 1: any jew, If you're wondering, like, how would you assume
35:33
Speaker 1: that the person in this song is Jewish? It's because
35:37
Speaker 1: in the first fifteen seconds of the video for All
35:40
Speaker 1: That She Wants, they just show the woman they're singing
35:44
Speaker 1: about stroking a necklace. That's just a bunch of star
35:47
Speaker 1: of David's why why in the video for the song
35:54
Speaker 1: about a woman who just wants to get pregnant and
35:58
Speaker 1: live off society, a welfare queen if you will, Which
36:01
Speaker 1: that alone, that idea is some right wing shit like
36:06
Speaker 1: only the most right wing types actually think that stereotype
36:10
Speaker 1: is a real thing. Like there are select cases of
36:14
Speaker 1: welfare fraud, just like there are select cases of bank
36:18
Speaker 1: fraud in the world. It doesn't make everyone who has
36:21
Speaker 1: a bank account a bank fraud person. And so just
36:26
Speaker 1: the idea of that, and I get that they're you know,
36:29
Speaker 1: their excuses. Oh no, that's not what it's about. Then
36:31
Speaker 1: why all the star of David's in the beginning of
36:34
Speaker 1: the video.
36:34
Speaker 2: The other show I have with that music video is
36:36
Speaker 2: once she goes to get in a tanning bed, they
36:38
Speaker 2: call it a tanning oven. Don't know what that's about.
36:43
Speaker 1: And so let's in this video. I'll make it full
36:48
Speaker 1: screen just so you don't miss it.
36:49
Speaker 2: Chat here we go.
36:51
Speaker 1: We are six seconds in, I see it lots of
36:54
Speaker 1: lots of Nazis or not, lots of Jewish stars. And
37:00
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds in they make it a little more clear,
37:03
Speaker 1: so you can very clearly see that these are a
37:05
Speaker 1: bunch of six pointed stars on a chain that the
37:09
Speaker 1: woman they're singing about either just being of loose moral
37:15
Speaker 1: character or being a drain on society.
37:18
Speaker 2: She won't even hold that guy's arm. She's that's because
37:22
Speaker 2: she's she's a Jew chat.
37:26
Speaker 3: And I would if you're if you're listening to this
37:31
Speaker 3: and you're still on the fence again, let's let's let's
37:36
Speaker 3: stack it up.
37:37
Speaker 2: Let's stack it up.
37:38
Speaker 1: We have a former Nazi founds a band, or we
37:43
Speaker 1: assume we assume he's a former Nazi. He did not
37:47
Speaker 1: disavow any of this shit until that Vice article came out.
37:50
Speaker 1: So a Nazi starts a band, a band whose name
37:55
Speaker 1: is a Nazi reference. They have a song called Happy
38:01
Speaker 1: Nation that is just littered with Nazi references, including the
38:06
Speaker 1: name of the book Hitler in part based mind comp
38:09
Speaker 1: on flying through the Air when they say a man
38:12
Speaker 1: will die but not his ideas. And then there's this
38:17
Speaker 1: a song about At best, it's about a just a
38:22
Speaker 1: loose woman who shouldn't be trusted, Like they say, I'm
38:25
Speaker 1: she's going to get you so many times in this song.
38:28
Speaker 2: So it's at least if she's loose, you have a
38:30
Speaker 2: chance to escape. Oh my god.
38:37
Speaker 1: So at best the song is about that. At worst
38:39
Speaker 1: it's about a woman who is a drain on society.
38:43
Speaker 1: Which does that rhetoric sound familiar students of Nazi Germany
38:49
Speaker 1: or of the current students of Nazi America and then
38:54
Speaker 1: to cap all of that off twice in the first
38:57
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds in this video. They cannot stress enough that
39:03
Speaker 1: this unsavory woman they're singing about is also Jewish. Why
39:09
Speaker 1: why was that so important to this video? Because it's not.
39:14
Speaker 1: I actually when I wrote the article, I was like,
39:17
Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, you see it twice there. If you
39:20
Speaker 1: watch the whole video, the chick is just holding the
39:23
Speaker 1: thing up in the background the whole fucking time. So
39:27
Speaker 1: when you take all of that together, if they aren't
39:31
Speaker 1: a Nazi band, then why why is all of that
39:36
Speaker 1: in this Ace of Bass album? And there's other shit
39:39
Speaker 1: on that. They have a song called the Eyes of
39:41
Speaker 1: a Stranger, which sounds a lot like don't let strangers
39:44
Speaker 1: into your country because the chorus is like I see
39:47
Speaker 1: danger in the eyes of a stranger.
39:49
Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't stop smirking. But look at how many
39:51
Speaker 2: thumbs down this video as six. I know you're gonna
39:58
Speaker 2: get magnets like why is he grinny like an idiot?
40:02
Speaker 2: Forty nine million views?
40:05
Speaker 1: Six nine nice? Ah man, so nice like sixty nine
40:11
Speaker 1: and with a period what gross gross at?
40:18
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll take it seriously. But yeah, and that. Yeah,
40:23
Speaker 2: I think you got a burger there, you got a
40:24
Speaker 2: Nazi burger. Yeah.
40:26
Speaker 1: I just there's you know, there's other things you can
40:28
Speaker 1: listen to on the album. The song Eyes of a
40:30
Speaker 1: Stranger does sound like some xenophobic anti immigration shit. But
40:35
Speaker 1: even if every other song is just Tina Turner covers
40:38
Speaker 1: in fucking lighthearted dance stuff, why is all this Nazi
40:43
Speaker 1: shit in the rest of the album.
40:45
Speaker 2: You're the one you're really missing. I saw the sign
40:48
Speaker 2: the signs of fucking twastika, but not if I had
40:54
Speaker 2: some very compelling evidence, that would be great. But in
40:58
Speaker 2: the video it's not unfortunate. But I assume there's some
41:01
Speaker 2: reference you're not catching. There has to be referenced. Well,
41:04
Speaker 2: let's watch it quick.
41:05
Speaker 1: It's because it is a weird video and there are
41:07
Speaker 1: a lot of strange signs. You said, that's the like
41:10
Speaker 1: flying Nazi thing flying around in the air. To me,
41:14
Speaker 1: all the ace of bass hits, like the three radio songs,
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Speaker 1: they all sound the same to me, like they're interchange.
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Speaker 2: They're all trash.
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Speaker 1: I just hated as of bass. Oh they're emerging from
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Speaker 1: the dark. None of them play instrument.
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Speaker 2: See. Yeah, so many quick changes. I swear the dude
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Speaker 2: just gave a Nazi salute too. This video show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what sign is flying through the
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Speaker 1: air in this song, but yeah, you have to break
41:55
Speaker 1: this dump frame by frame, but there is something hidden here.
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Speaker 2: What's that flag? They're just for no reason? She see?
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Speaker 2: That's that's the thing. Now.
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Speaker 1: Every time I see Asa Bass, I'm like, what Nazis
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Speaker 1: shit are they doing?
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Speaker 2: This song is upbeat side side many.
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Speaker 1: Can we just get it right out of the way
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Speaker 1: that if they're gonna jettison anyone from their society, it
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Speaker 1: needs to be that second singer.
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Speaker 2: What the fuck is she doing there?
42:37
Speaker 1: Not because she doesn't even have blonde hair, but where
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Speaker 1: do you belong?
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Speaker 2: Israel?
42:42
Speaker 1: Perhaps wants to know? Uh, don't you turn that hand? Sir?
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Speaker 2: Okay, fuck these motherfuckers. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I watched the video for the sign. I couldn't find
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Speaker 1: anything weird in it. But there's also a lot of
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Speaker 1: symbols in that video that I don't understand, and it
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Speaker 1: seems like the one they show the most is like
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Speaker 1: a kind of a mishmash of two different symbols. So
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Speaker 1: who fucking knows, But it doesn't The sign doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be a Nazi fucking song.
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Speaker 2: Have you gone out and done PR on this, like
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Speaker 2: you should be on some publicity blitz like on all
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Speaker 2: the shows talking about this. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I've thought of like trying to reach out to some
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Speaker 1: other podcasts to see if it could be a thing
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Speaker 1: like NPR come talk talk about.
43:26
Speaker 2: Who knows.
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Speaker 1: We'll see, But for now, if anyone listening to Conspiracy
43:31
Speaker 1: the podcast right now would like or Conspiracy the show,
43:34
Speaker 1: I forget what it's called.
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Speaker 2: I only do it every week.
43:37
Speaker 1: If anyone would like to spread this around and tell
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Speaker 1: people that you saw the sign and it opened up
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Speaker 1: your eyes, and your eyes saw another sign that said
43:47
Speaker 1: Asa Bassis a bunch of fucking Nazis.
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Speaker 2: I always thought the lyric was I saw the sign,
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Speaker 2: It opened up my eyes sixty nine? What no, oh, no,
43:55
Speaker 2: it's another sixty nine. That's what I always we are
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Speaker 2: getting them in so.
44:03
Speaker 1: Like the mouth parts, that's my ASA base conspiracy. This
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Speaker 1: is like the second episode I've done where it's just
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy on my own baby.
44:13
Speaker 2: What was the other one? Uh?
44:15
Speaker 1: I am of the belief that Baseball, at least if
44:18
Speaker 1: they didn't manufacture the steroid scandal, they at least encouraged
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Speaker 1: it because they knew they were gonna have to discredit
44:25
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds somehow. Why because they knew he was going
44:28
Speaker 1: to break the home run record. And everyone in baseball
44:31
Speaker 1: fucking hates Barry Bonds because Barry Bonds is a dick,
44:35
Speaker 1: but he's also inarguably the greatest baseball player of all time.
44:41
Speaker 2: It's loose. It's not because he was black.
44:43
Speaker 1: It's probably partly that, but a lot of it has
44:47
Speaker 1: to do with him just being an asshole who like,
44:49
Speaker 1: he didn't care about talking to the media, he didn't
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Speaker 1: care about signing autographs. He was just like, can I
44:54
Speaker 1: just fucking play baseball and go home? And they didn't
44:58
Speaker 1: like that. He's not a marketable person. How many even
45:01
Speaker 1: before the steroid scandal, how many fucking endorsement deals do
45:06
Speaker 1: you remember Barry Bonds having? How many commercials do you
45:08
Speaker 1: remember him being in? None because people fucking hated Barry.
45:12
Speaker 1: I remember the Simpsons softball episode. That's not the same thing,
45:16
Speaker 1: And that was probably after the Barry Bonds thing, wasn't it.
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Speaker 2: No, that was before? When did it? When was the
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Speaker 2: Simpsons episode? It had to have been mid middle mid
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Speaker 2: late nineties, But I think middle nineties.
45:27
Speaker 1: Really that's cooler anyway. So that's that's my Those are
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Speaker 1: my feelings on ASA base. I don't even like to
45:34
Speaker 1: call it a conspiracy theory. I just want you all
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Speaker 1: to know we bought twenty five million copies of a
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Speaker 1: Nazi album in the United States.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was only nine million in the United.
45:44
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, nine million in the United States. Twenty
45:47
Speaker 1: five million worldwide, but nine million in the US. That's
45:51
Speaker 1: that's that's not nothing.
45:53
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is one out of every six
45:55
Speaker 2: people who voted for Trump. Wait how many elections votes
45:58
Speaker 2: to get trying to do the math. I don't fucking know
46:02
Speaker 2: who cares. And yeah, it like like it came out
46:05
Speaker 2: right on the when grunge was really a thing. People
46:09
Speaker 2: needed anything.
46:10
Speaker 1: That people Everything on the radio is so fucking sad five, six, seven,
46:15
Speaker 1: eight years before fastball will give you the way and
46:18
Speaker 1: think about it though. That's kind of how Nazism takes
46:21
Speaker 1: hold in a country.
46:23
Speaker 2: People just need something different.
46:24
Speaker 1: People are so like in Nazi Germany, it was that
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Speaker 1: people were so fucking broken by what happened after World
46:33
Speaker 1: War One and then the stock market crash in the
46:37
Speaker 1: United States happens, which fucking res Germany's economy and everyone
46:41
Speaker 1: is just living in misery, and they're like, fuck, okay,
46:44
Speaker 1: we'll we'll try out this different thing, even though it's
46:47
Speaker 1: very different from what we normally like. And in the
46:50
Speaker 1: United States it was you know, rural people who were like,
46:55
Speaker 1: no politician ever fucking listens to us, and we're all
46:58
Speaker 1: dying of opioids and we need our old jobs back
47:01
Speaker 1: and try.
47:01
Speaker 2: I like that guy in the TV show.
47:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Trump shows up and goes, hey, I
47:06
Speaker 1: know I just hosted a reality show and went bankrupt
47:08
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, But how about me? And they
47:11
Speaker 1: were like, fine, how about you? And now we have
47:14
Speaker 1: to hopefully kick a Nazi out of office or become
47:18
Speaker 1: Nazi point two point zero.
47:21
Speaker 2: And hey, listen the Nazis or armbands that were red
47:26
Speaker 2: and white. Yeah, Trump supporters, red hats. Very different, very
47:34
Speaker 2: very different, very different, and yeah with asa bass. Like
47:38
Speaker 2: the state of popular music at the time was a
47:41
Speaker 2: lot of fucking sullen Nirvana grunge type shit, even though
47:47
Speaker 2: Nirvana was like far and away the most upbeat of
47:49
Speaker 2: those bands. But and people were just like, please, can
47:54
Speaker 2: we dance to something? And what they got was a
47:58
Speaker 2: fucking Nazi album and they were like, fine, we're not
48:01
Speaker 2: even listening to these lyrics.
48:03
Speaker 1: And they sold nine million copies of a Nazi album
48:05
Speaker 1: in the United States. It's impressive.
48:08
Speaker 2: What happened to the band.
48:09
Speaker 1: I mean, they're still like around. They were gonna do
48:12
Speaker 1: a reunion at one point, like, I don't know.
48:15
Speaker 2: Let's trick him on the pod. Uh. I don't feel
48:17
Speaker 2: like it's that far fetched. We tried that at Cracked.
48:20
Speaker 1: We wanted to sit this dude down for an interview
48:23
Speaker 1: and he wasn't going for it.
48:25
Speaker 2: But it was with the context of you're a Nazi.
48:27
Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't think so. What if I start
48:29
Speaker 2: a campaign to get them to play my living room? No,
48:32
Speaker 2: and over time I earned their trust to at least
48:35
Speaker 2: come on the pod. No, we're just gonna get this
48:37
Speaker 2: information out there.
48:39
Speaker 1: Everyone tell all your friends Asa Bass was a Nazi
48:41
Speaker 1: band and that Adam Todd Brown is the one who
48:44
Speaker 1: came up with.
48:45
Speaker 2: That Adam Barry t Brow. All right, So that's the episode.
48:51
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49:37
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49:40
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49:42
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49:44
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50:00
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50:10
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50:15
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50:18
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50:22
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50:24
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