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Credlin | 14 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: PETERO Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, great to have your company. Here's what's coming
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Speaker 2: up for the show this evening. Well, the brew haha
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Speaker 2: about Australia Day, it's really now kicking off after Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton pledged to demand local councils holds citizenship ceremonies on
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Speaker 2: our national Day and not boycotted already dozens of backflipped
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Speaker 2: on their opposition. Will speak to one mayor who says,
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Speaker 2: when not woke, we love Australia Day.
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Speaker 3: More of the fight back coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: In Sydney's swift condemnation after the principal of an Islamic
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Speaker 2: school publicly posted a series of anti Semitic comments. But
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Speaker 2: condemnation can't be enough. This school receives taxpayer funding, so
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Speaker 2: let's see some real consequences for this racist hate. Liberal
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Speaker 2: education spokeswoman Sarah Henderson with Moore a seventy two thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars European trip for Apolly on the cusp of retirement,
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Speaker 2: a lucky farewell tour paid by you, the taxpayer. Anyone
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Speaker 2: the people are fed up with politics. Even his former
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Speaker 2: colleagues struggle to defend the move today and Parliament hasn't
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Speaker 2: even returned yet, but already the gloves are off between
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and the opposition leader. The PM actually
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Speaker 2: going very personal in his attack on Peter Dutton to
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Speaker 2: try and save his government.
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Speaker 3: Will it work? While let you be the.
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Speaker 4: Judge Peter Dutton represents a cold hearted, mean spirit is
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Speaker 4: sometimes just plain nasty response.
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Speaker 5: That Franklin, I think the promise is pretty unhinged in
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Speaker 5: some of his comments at.
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Speaker 3: The moment.
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Speaker 2: And hinge, you got that right, Petter Dutton and come
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Speaker 2: back to that in the moment first time. These clowns
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Speaker 2: in power, they just don't get it, do they. One
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Speaker 2: of the very first acts of the Albanezi government was
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Speaker 2: to counsel the rule that local councils had to hold
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Speaker 2: their citizens ceremonies on Australia Day. Instead, the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: allowed them to shunt around the National Day inside.
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Speaker 3: A three day window.
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Speaker 2: And when he did that, of course, some eighty councils
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Speaker 2: across the country, including about a third of those It's Victoria,
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Speaker 2: Australia's capital of wok Julie made the move, citing indigenous sensitivities,
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Speaker 2: despite the fact that the majority of us love our
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Speaker 2: country and support our national Day, including I might add
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Speaker 2: many indigenous people. It was a typical Albanese political ploy
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Speaker 2: say that you're personally in favor of Australia Day, but
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Speaker 2: allow your Green Left allies to grandstand about it being
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Speaker 2: invasion day, even though none of us can change history
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Speaker 2: and whatever mistakes we might have made as a nation,
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Speaker 2: British settlement has brought us democracy, the rule of law,
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Speaker 2: minority rights, rights for women, and technological advances to Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: societies that had hardly changed in tens of thousands of years.
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Speaker 2: So for a country that's as free and as any
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Speaker 2: on earth to be lukewarm about celebrating its national Day, well,
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Speaker 2: I reckon it's madness.
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Speaker 3: But that's been the game plan of the left.
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Speaker 2: Anyone to the migrants who vote with their feet to
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Speaker 2: live here, think that we've lost the plot, because as
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Speaker 2: I've said again, as I've said before, and I'll say again,
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Speaker 2: they know as I know, as you know, to call
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Speaker 2: Australia home as well, and truly to have won the
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Speaker 2: lottery of life. So good on Peter Dartin for declaring
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Speaker 2: that should the Coalition win the looming election, he'll once
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Speaker 2: make it once more, make it mandatory for councils to
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Speaker 2: hold citizenship ceremonies on our national day.
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Speaker 5: Would we reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship
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Speaker 5: ceremonies on Australia Day. You bet it'll be done the
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Speaker 5: first hundred days.
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Speaker 2: As you know, one of the biggest outcomes from the
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Speaker 2: Voice vote, as well as knocking off for a truly
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Speaker 2: bad and racist proposal, has been the willingness of so
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Speaker 2: many ones quiet Australians to reclaim their country. Polling from
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Speaker 2: the IPA shows that support for Australia.
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Speaker 3: Day is rising, not falling. Sixty nine percent.
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Speaker 2: Of Australians agreeing with the statement that Australia Day should
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Speaker 2: be celebrated on January twenty six, including fifty two percent
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Speaker 2: now of young people, and that's up ten percentage points
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Speaker 2: on last year, and almost ninety percent of those surveyed
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Speaker 2: declare that they are proud to be Australian. That hasn't
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Speaker 2: stopped the usual arrogant and out of touch local government
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Speaker 2: poohbars say that NUM one is.
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Speaker 3: Celebrate Australia Day if the federal.
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Speaker 2: Government wants to pay them to do so, which, of
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Speaker 2: course comes down to you, the taxpayer, paying more through
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Speaker 2: the nose. Yet again, I mean, give me a break.
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Speaker 2: These councils need no federal incentive to mark the end
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Speaker 2: of Ramadan, do they. They're happy enough to run events
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Speaker 2: in night or week and celebrate Pride month, to pay
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Speaker 2: a lot of money to drag queens to read to
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Speaker 2: kids in council libraries, but now they say the lonely
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Speaker 2: mark Australia Day if they're paid, I'm going to come on.
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Speaker 2: Local Government Association president Matt Burnett reportedly said that councils
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Speaker 2: didn't hold events on January twenty six for a range
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Speaker 2: of reasons, he said, including extreme heat and public holiday
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Speaker 2: staff costs. I mean, seriously, if heat's a reason to
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Speaker 2: avoid activity, well nothing had happened anywhere in January. And
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Speaker 2: if extra costs are a problem, nothing would ever happen
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Speaker 2: on a public holiday because if we have across the
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Speaker 2: board penalty in loadings. Adelaide Lord Mayor j and Lomac
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Speaker 2: Smith has also said that her counsel would comply if
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Speaker 2: ordered to, but that she'd expect the federal government to
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Speaker 2: compensate councils.
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Speaker 3: For the extra costs. Spoken like the.
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Speaker 2: Former state labor politician she was before she jumped onto
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Speaker 2: the gravy train.
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Speaker 3: That's local government.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, what is the point of local governments If they
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Speaker 2: can't collect the rubbish, they can't fix the roads, and
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Speaker 2: they can't organize community events without someone else paying for them. Perhaps,
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Speaker 2: if local councils close down their diversity, equity and inclusion departments,
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Speaker 2: if they've stopped weighing in on federal concerns like refugee
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Speaker 2: policy and climate change, they have all money in the
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Speaker 2: kick to do what they should on Australia Day and
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Speaker 2: hold the events that Australians clearly want. The Opposition leader
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Speaker 2: is right, Anthony Alwinezi only changed the rules because deep
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Speaker 2: down he's still the student activist who thinks Australia Day
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Speaker 2: is something to be ashamed of. Well, I reckon, it's
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Speaker 2: about time we've got ourselves a leader who believes in
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Speaker 2: this country as much as we do.
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Speaker 3: Were you Intel's coming? Can't you?
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Speaker 2: The claims that Los Angeles disastrous bush fires or a
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Speaker 2: symptom of climate change, But the only way to stop
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Speaker 2: them in the future is to stop using coal, gas
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Speaker 2: and oil. Indeed, it started already.
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Speaker 6: These are climate fires and they are raging.
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Speaker 4: Frankly, if we don't get on top of climate change,
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Speaker 4: if we don't more aggressively attack climate change, every seat
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Speaker 4: is going to be in the position that California is
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Speaker 4: in right now.
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Speaker 6: There's a shift in everything.
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Speaker 7: That means even what we see now is going to
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Speaker 7: just get worse and worse and worse over the coming
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Speaker 7: decades if we're not serious about reducing our emissions.
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Speaker 2: This happens now after every extreme weather event, they're all
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Speaker 2: blamed on climate change, even though floods and fires, storms
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Speaker 2: and droughts have been with us forever and I've often
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Speaker 2: been much more destructive in the past, and even though
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Speaker 2: key factors in LA's devastation were lack of fire fighting
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Speaker 2: water because reservoirs haven't been kept full or built, and
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Speaker 2: lack of vegetation management because of environmental activism. In twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 2: the then President Donald Trump wanted to see water resources
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Speaker 2: diverted from northern to southern California, but this was vetoed
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Speaker 2: by Governor Newsom on environmental grounds. So far, the LA
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Speaker 2: fires have consumed some fifteen thousand hectares, killed some twenty
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Speaker 2: four people, and destroyed some ten thousand dwellings, and no
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Speaker 2: doubt it's a disaster of historic proportions.
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Speaker 3: Still, it seems that the largest.
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Speaker 2: Single North American fire on record was in nineteen fifty
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Speaker 2: the Chinchega fire in Canada that destroyed over one point
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Speaker 2: five million hectares or three and a half million acres.
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Speaker 2: And it seems there were forest fires in North America
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Speaker 2: that have consumed more than a million acres in the
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Speaker 2: past eighteen twenty five, eighteen forty five, eighteen sixty five,
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Speaker 2: eighteen seventy one, eighteen eighty one, eighteen ninety eight, and
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Speaker 2: that's just the nineteenth century. In nineteen ninety one on
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Speaker 2: the Oakland Hills firestorm killed twenty five people, destroyed nearly
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Speaker 2: four thousand homes. Now, none of this is to minimize
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Speaker 2: the seriousness of today's fires and the magnitude of that lost,
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Speaker 2: but it's a plea for perspective and a sense of proportion.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we must rest as lightly on the planet
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Speaker 2: as we can. But the idea that reducing emissions will
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Speaker 2: stop wildfires in America and bush fires in Australia, it's
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Speaker 2: simply fanciful. All it's done is to avoid responsibility for
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Speaker 2: the mitigation and the preparedness work that should have been
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Speaker 2: done but wasn't. All right, let's head to camera, cam
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Speaker 2: reddens there now with.
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Speaker 3: The headlines, good evening.
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Speaker 7: The two leaders have embarked on a marginal seat blitz
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Speaker 7: as the pre election campaign becomes increasingly personal.
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Speaker 5: But frankly, I think the promise is pretty unhinged in
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Speaker 5: some of his comments at the.
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Speaker 7: Moment that follows this jibe from Anthony Albanesi on Monday.
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Speaker 4: Pleaded Dutton represents it cold hearted, mean spirit. It's sometimes
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Speaker 4: just plain nasty response.
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Speaker 5: If they'd achieved anything that he wouldn't have to resort
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Speaker 5: daily to the personal attacks on me and my colleagues.
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Speaker 1: My government is getting things donned.
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Speaker 4: My government has reduced inflation from having a six in
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Speaker 4: front of it to having it too in front of it.
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Speaker 7: The Opposition leader will consider enshrining January twenty sixth as
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Speaker 7: Australia Day in Law.
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Speaker 5: I'm happy to look at the suggestion and happy to
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Speaker 5: make sure that we continue to be proud of who
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Speaker 5: we are as a country.
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Speaker 8: Happy with the way it is.
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Speaker 6: It's not brag and so why I fix it?
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Speaker 8: That's see what should be changed.
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Speaker 7: I believe that we should move the day, a National
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Speaker 7: senator has called on the government to reach out to
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Speaker 7: Elon Musk for a better deal on the NBN.
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Speaker 9: Why aren't they talking to Elon Musk and maybe partnering
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Speaker 9: with Starlink to get better value for taxpayers out of
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Speaker 9: the NBN. One of the reasons perhaps this government won't
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Speaker 9: talk to Elon Musk is they just don't like his politics.
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Speaker 7: Nbn CO is exploring potential partnership with a range of
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Speaker 7: satellite providers. Government sources tell Sky News Starlink hasn't been
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Speaker 7: ruled out to fill black spots, but fiber in the
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Speaker 7: ground remains a valuable asset and is more reliable. Cameron
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Speaker 7: Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 3: I love to get across today.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by the Deputy Executive Director of the IPA,
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Speaker 2: Daniel Wilde, and senior Fellow the Menzies Research Center Nick Cator.
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Speaker 2: Will welcome gents. Thank you for joining me to kick
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Speaker 2: off twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 3: It will be a big year.
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Speaker 2: I want to start with the Fox election that we're
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Speaker 2: underway now here in Australia. Clearly he hasn't called it,
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Speaker 2: but we're in the election. We saw those meat and
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Speaker 2: personal attacks against Donald Trump in the United States campaign,
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Speaker 2: the backlash from voters in the end on piling day
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Speaker 2: was significant. Anthony Albinezi somehow thinks it's a winner in Australia,
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Speaker 2: but as the polls would suggest, Nick, this is not
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Speaker 2: the case. So why does he persist in going so personal?
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Speaker 10: It's interesting, Peter. I mean, Labor has not got line
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Speaker 10: and length on Dunton. After three years as opposition leader.
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Speaker 10: They have do not have an effective attack against him,
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Speaker 10: and so I think that they're really just grabbing anything
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Speaker 10: that comes up. I mean, the idea that Peter Dutton
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Speaker 10: is somehow mean and nasty and you know, it's sort
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Speaker 10: of cartoon character stuff, isn't it. It doesn't make it's
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Speaker 10: two dimensional, doesn't make any sense. I don't think it's
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Speaker 10: cutting through and I think, as we saw with Donald
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Speaker 10: Trump in the United States, it's actually counterproductive for Labor.
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Speaker 10: It actually makes people think, well, is that all you
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Speaker 10: got on him? Just personal slurs? You know, I don't
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Speaker 10: think the public look kindly to this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 2: I think the issue too, Dan is you know, when
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Speaker 2: you are in the incumbent government, just like Kamala Harris raging,
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Speaker 2: you should be running on your record, and the fact
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Speaker 2: you can't run on your record is telling invoters work
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Speaker 2: that out.
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Speaker 11: Well, that's right, they don't have much of a record
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Speaker 11: to run on. And you remember Peter. They used to
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Speaker 11: say this about Tony Abott or he's too conservative, he's
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Speaker 11: too Catholic, or whatever else it was. And they said
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Speaker 11: it about John Howard he wasn't charismatic enough, yet he
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Speaker 11: became our second longest serving prime minister. So I think
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Speaker 11: the left repeatedly underestimate the strength of conservative leaders from
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Speaker 11: the center right. And the fact is that so many
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Speaker 11: of Dutton's positions are simply mainstream, common sense positions. I mean,
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Speaker 11: how can you argue with his position on Australia Day
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Speaker 11: or calling out woke CEOs and on the education system.
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Speaker 3: And so forth.
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Speaker 11: So look, the big problem the government has got is
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Speaker 11: seven consecutive quarters of negative per capita growth. That's the
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Speaker 11: worst record we've had since digitized records began, because of
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Speaker 11: their mass migration program. There's no running away from that.
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Speaker 11: So of course they're going to resort to personal attacks
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Speaker 11: on Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Australia Day there.
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Speaker 2: I tell you what your poll yesterday from the IPA
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Speaker 2: is the poll that everybody is talking about. It's really
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Speaker 2: kicked off a big debate again about Australia Day, but
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Speaker 2: a debate that sends a message.
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Speaker 3: I think that the.
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Speaker 2: Shift is underway, that people are getting their country back,
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Speaker 2: ordinary Australians and demanding their country back. But what I
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Speaker 2: liked when I saw that data, there's a hope in
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Speaker 2: the younger person vote, eight into twenty four year olds,
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Speaker 2: a really big shift shift from them.
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Speaker 3: Did that surprise.
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Speaker 11: Him, Well, I wasn't that surprised, actually, Peter, because we
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Speaker 11: saw this with the Voice debate, where fifty five percent
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Speaker 11: of young men voted no. So those aj T twenty
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Speaker 11: four men voted no to the Voice. And we've seen
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Speaker 11: this across the UK, the US, and continental Europe, which
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Speaker 11: is younger, the younger demographic of very anti established men,
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Speaker 11: anti authoritarian. They're bristling against political correctness. I mean, they've
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Speaker 11: been faced with this relentless indoctrination basically from kindergarten. You know,
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Speaker 11: if you're an eighteen year old, you've been faced with
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Speaker 11: this indoctrination for most of your life. And fortunately they've
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Speaker 11: got a lot of alternative information sources that they're accessing,
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Speaker 11: and you know, they're equipped with a lot of knowledge
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Speaker 11: in a way that I think sometimes in the older
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Speaker 11: demographic don't quite understand. So it was very pleasing and encouraging.
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Speaker 11: And I also think basically the debate about Australia Day
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Speaker 11: is now dead. I think this pole puts a nail
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Speaker 11: in the coffin for the activists. You know, they're so
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Speaker 11: out of touch. A seventy percent now back our National
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Speaker 11: Day and it's only increasing. So I think the windows
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Speaker 11: in the sales of mainstream Australians the voice is what
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Speaker 11: kicked this off. And we've seen improvements in our cultural
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Speaker 11: I think outlook ever since then. So it's, like you say,
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Speaker 11: very encouraging, particular with the younger demographic.
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Speaker 3: And women too.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to those wildfires. I'm going to get cross
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Speaker 2: across to LA a little later on the show. We'll
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Speaker 2: talk about the political for that in US politics. But
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Speaker 2: as they start to rebuild, Nick Cator reports today that
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Speaker 2: insurance policyholders will face a big whack.
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Speaker 3: Sure, but we're.
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Speaker 2: Told that's going to come now and infect insurance premiums
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Speaker 2: in a Australia. We're told there'll be hikes here because
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Speaker 2: of LA. We've heard stories of plenty of homeowners in
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Speaker 2: Pacific palisades who paid premiums for decades. They were dropped
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Speaker 2: from coveries just weeks before these fires broke out. That's
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Speaker 2: a rought if it's happened. That's a rought too, if
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Speaker 2: it's happening here in Australia, because I'm told viewers contacted
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Speaker 2: me last night a number of them say that they
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Speaker 2: can't get insurance in parts of Australia.
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Speaker 3: That's a concern, that's.
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Speaker 10: Right, And the insurance companies are quite happy to take
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Speaker 10: your money if there's no risk they're going to pay out.
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Speaker 10: I mean, it's obvious, isn't it. But I think the
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Speaker 10: way the insurance company's behaving right now over this is
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Speaker 10: very questionable. I do think there's a point, though, Peter,
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Speaker 10: you know, and we did a report at the Menses
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Speaker 10: Research Center on there's a few years back on this
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Speaker 10: insurance question, and it is it is I think the
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Speaker 10: fact that if you live in a bush prone a
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Speaker 10: bushfire prone area, you should expect to have higher premiums.
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Speaker 10: You should to some extent have to cover that additional
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Speaker 10: risk that comes through that. But there's certainly, I think
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Speaker 10: a role for government to regulate here and to make
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Speaker 10: sure that that is a reasonable cost and very certainly
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Speaker 10: that the insurance company pays out.
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Speaker 2: And also that you can get insurance in the first place.
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Speaker 2: I think the worry is you can't get insurance in
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Speaker 2: some of these areas.
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Speaker 3: Dan also, I think what.
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Speaker 2: Scares me about the la fires is how underprepared, warned,
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Speaker 2: but underprepared they were. We know from the bush Royal
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Speaker 2: Commissions here in Australia bush Fire Royal Commissions, the latest
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine Black Saturday, that we've got
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Speaker 2: to deal with the undergrowth, we've got to have prescribed burning.
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Speaker 2: But reports today to say that the fire trucks in
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Speaker 2: Victoria are at replacement age, no plan to replace them,
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Speaker 2: no money to replace them, and their with mechanical issues.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this shows you why managing the finances at
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Speaker 2: a state government level really matters, because this isn't about
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Speaker 2: climate change, this is about economic and political competence.
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Speaker 11: Well, you're absolutely right. The biggest bushfire risk is not
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Speaker 11: extreme temperatures or extreme weather events. It's bad public policy
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Speaker 11: that's the biggest risk. And you know these insurance companies
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Speaker 11: it's a total cop out if they're going to increase
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Speaker 11: premiums here and if the a trip will see was
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Speaker 11: worth anything, they'd been investigating this.
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Speaker 3: Why aren't the insurance.
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Speaker 11: Companies speaking out against bad public policies.
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Speaker 3: Such as from Victoria.
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Speaker 11: Why aren't they talking about backburning and cutting red and
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Speaker 11: green tape and allowing landowners to take proper care of
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Speaker 11: their property. Why aren't they talking about the situation in Victoria.
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Speaker 11: We can all see what's going to happen unless we
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Speaker 11: fix the situation. So, you know, this is a big issue,
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Speaker 11: and you know those who say it's all climate change, Well,
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Speaker 11: it wasn't climate change that meant there was no water
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Speaker 11: in the fire hydrants. It wasn't climate change that caused
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Speaker 11: the reservoirs to be drained. You know, that was all
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Speaker 11: deliberate public policy decisions taken by the California state government.
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Speaker 11: And as you rightly say in Victoria, well, this is
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Speaker 11: what happens when you run out of money, you have
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Speaker 11: to cut services, and it's always the most essential services
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Speaker 11: that are cut first. So this is why, you know,
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Speaker 11: we talk about the importance of you know, financial and
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Speaker 11: fiscal prudence, not just for the sake of it, but
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Speaker 11: so that we can live in a safe and secure society.
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Speaker 11: So we're starting to see. I think the freight edges
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Speaker 11: of what can happen.
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Speaker 3: Not wrong. Daniel Nick, thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Let's go down to an issue where I think we
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Speaker 2: need to draw a clear line in the sand and
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Speaker 2: do more than just mouth words of condemnation in the news. Worales,
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Speaker 2: regional town of young the new principle of an Islamic
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Speaker 2: school it's called the New Medina College has posted a
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Speaker 2: series of anti Semitic posts to his public Facebook page.
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Speaker 2: This principle was Shaik al Dugghhani. Albuff has rightly come
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Speaker 2: nder fire from political and Jewish leaders a series of
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Speaker 2: divisive and inflammatory anti Israel posts over the past several months.
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Speaker 2: For more, I'm joined now by Shadow Minister for Education,
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Speaker 2: Liberal Senator to Victoria Sarah Henderson. Sarah, thank you for
20:11
Speaker 2: your time. I mean, this is a man responsible for
20:16
Speaker 2: the education of children age largely between the ages of
20:19
Speaker 2: four and sixteen, so is influential. We also know that
20:23
Speaker 2: radicalizations happening with younger and younger children.
20:27
Speaker 3: Surely more needs to be done.
20:28
Speaker 2: Frankly, I don't think condemnation by itself is enough.
20:36
Speaker 12: Well, Peter, a good evening, and this is a shocking
20:38
Speaker 12: example of hate and incitement in a school. Of course,
20:43
Speaker 12: the Coalition we are very strong supporters of faith based
20:47
Speaker 12: education and there are many Islamic schools which are doing
20:50
Speaker 12: a brilliant job around this country. But this is a
20:54
Speaker 12: shocking example of a principle who should not be in
20:58
Speaker 12: the job. As far as I'm concerned, I've called on
21:00
Speaker 12: the Education Minister Jason Clair to ensure that he has
21:03
Speaker 12: stood down while there is an investigation, and frankly, the
21:06
Speaker 12: police should also be involved in investigating this matter because
21:11
Speaker 12: this is arguably inciting violence. School leaders must show the
21:16
Speaker 12: highest stands of integrity and respect for others. This is
21:21
Speaker 12: a shocking anti Jewish hate and incitement and as far
21:24
Speaker 12: as I'm concerned, he has to go.
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Speaker 2: What's been the response of Jason Clair, because I am
21:32
Speaker 2: very conscious that he said of Blaxland has the highest
21:35
Speaker 2: Muslim vote in the country. Has he responded and backed
21:39
Speaker 2: in your call to stand this principal aside?
21:45
Speaker 12: Well, Peter, the last time I checked on his social
21:48
Speaker 12: media he had been absolutely quiet, as has the Alberanezi government,
21:53
Speaker 12: and that is not good enough because we have seen
21:55
Speaker 12: continuing weakness of leadership from labor on anti Semitism in
21:59
Speaker 12: a universities and schools. Jason Clare could not even call
22:03
Speaker 12: out extremist members of hits Pattihir who were protesting at
22:08
Speaker 12: the University of Sydney. It is appalling that we are
22:11
Speaker 12: seeing this continuing weakness of leadership and I have called
22:15
Speaker 12: on him today to show the moral courage to stand
22:19
Speaker 12: up and call this out.
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Speaker 3: This is simply not good enough.
22:22
Speaker 12: And there are many, many families and who have children
22:24
Speaker 12: at this school who expect the highest standards, and frankly
22:28
Speaker 12: he is leading all children down and all families down
22:31
Speaker 12: at this school.
22:34
Speaker 2: You're right to point out Heresberteria. Of course they are
22:36
Speaker 2: a terror organization in a number of ally countries, not
22:40
Speaker 2: so here in Australia. This school, like all independent schools,
22:45
Speaker 2: you're right, is faith based and we should allow these
22:47
Speaker 2: schools to practice and teach their faith without government to interference.
22:52
Speaker 3: But it gets taxpayer funding.
22:54
Speaker 2: It's still regulated as all schools are, by governor officials.
22:58
Speaker 2: Surely there's got to be consequences if we had an election.
23:02
Speaker 2: If you find your selfie Education Minister, what would you do,
23:05
Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson.
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Speaker 12: Well, Peter, there is a legal requirement by the Commonwealth
23:11
Speaker 12: and the States to fund or schools. So I don't
23:15
Speaker 12: subscribe to the view that the funding should be placed
23:17
Speaker 12: in peril.
23:18
Speaker 6: But I do subscribe.
23:19
Speaker 12: To the view that when you have leaders of schools
23:23
Speaker 12: who are unfit to show leadership, who are divisive, who
23:27
Speaker 12: are spreading hate and incitement, there is no place for
23:30
Speaker 12: them in our education system. And as I say, I
23:33
Speaker 12: think what this principle has said is so serious that
23:36
Speaker 12: the police should investigate. As I mentioned before, I went
23:40
Speaker 12: to I visited an Islamic school recently in Melbourne. They
23:44
Speaker 12: are really really concerned about being socially cohesive, about making
23:49
Speaker 12: sure that students get all the right messages about our
23:53
Speaker 12: wonderful country. But this is an example of an educator
23:57
Speaker 12: who frankly does not deserve to be in the school
23:59
Speaker 12: system in this country.
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Speaker 2: Sarah, We've seen a lot of the hate that's come
24:04
Speaker 2: out of mosques, particularly in Western Sydney. We've got this
24:07
Speaker 2: example of a school. I'm aware of other examples of
24:11
Speaker 2: Islamic schools. Do we need an audit of Islamic schools?
24:17
Speaker 2: A lot of them teach in language. Do we need
24:20
Speaker 2: an audit? Do we need to know what they're teaching kids?
24:22
Speaker 2: And do we need to jump on those who are
24:25
Speaker 2: teaching them un Australian views in our country and funded
24:30
Speaker 2: by taxpayers.
24:34
Speaker 12: Well, my very first statement when I became the Shadow
24:36
Speaker 12: Education Minister was the classroom is for education and not indoctrination.
24:42
Speaker 12: And you've seen those very strong messages from Peter Dunton
24:44
Speaker 12: again a couple of days ago in Melbourne. We won't
24:48
Speaker 12: tolerate this and frankly parents have had a gut full
24:52
Speaker 12: of activism and indoctrination in the classroom. We are rallying
24:56
Speaker 12: against this and there should be no place for any
24:58
Speaker 12: form of donation in any classroom, regardless of the issue.
25:04
Speaker 6: But in this case I think.
25:05
Speaker 12: There is very very good cause to be concerned Peter,
25:09
Speaker 12: and when we do see examples of this terrible indoctrination
25:14
Speaker 12: then strong action is required. But we've seen this go
25:17
Speaker 12: on for many, many months since October seven, and we
25:21
Speaker 12: have seen such continuing week leadership from the Abanese government
25:25
Speaker 12: not standing up to anti Semitism, and that of course
25:29
Speaker 12: is emboldening these horrific statements which are continuing to be
25:33
Speaker 12: made across our community.
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Speaker 3: Sarah, do not let up on Jason Claire.
25:38
Speaker 2: I think he's seeing this through the prism of not
25:40
Speaker 2: what's right and what's Australian values and needs to be defended.
25:44
Speaker 2: He's seeing it through the prism of his seat. Stick
25:46
Speaker 2: it to in place, Sarah, We're all behind you. I'll
25:49
Speaker 2: leave it there, Thank you for your time. All right,
25:51
Speaker 2: after the break, we'll speak to a mayor who is
25:52
Speaker 2: proudly declared his council is not one of the woke
25:55
Speaker 2: city ones promising big Australia Day celebrations.
25:59
Speaker 3: Plus, you won't believe the bill.
26:00
Speaker 2: The jet setting former Victorian treasurer has slugged taxpayers on
26:04
Speaker 2: the way out of the door. Even one of his
26:07
Speaker 2: colleagues can't justify it. Welcome back a seventy two thousand
26:16
Speaker 2: dollars luxury European swansong, all on the taxpayer.
26:20
Speaker 3: What sort of politician does that?
26:22
Speaker 2: But what sort of premiere approves to let him go
26:25
Speaker 2: in the first place. But first, at the coming federal election,
26:29
Speaker 2: there will be a choice about Australia Day. Peter Dutton's
26:32
Speaker 2: made it very clear yesterday that if you vote for
26:35
Speaker 2: him to form government, the woke boycott of our National
26:38
Speaker 2: Day by local councils will end.
26:41
Speaker 3: Now as it stands, reports in the Herald Sun.
26:43
Speaker 2: Today have around thirty percent of councils in Victoria opting
26:47
Speaker 2: not to celebrate Australia Day in any form including citizenship ceremonies,
26:52
Speaker 2: but the Socialist Republic to one side around the country
26:56
Speaker 2: the Tides Tourney. Many councils are now going out of
26:59
Speaker 2: they waited to clear their.
27:00
Speaker 3: Support for our National Day.
27:02
Speaker 2: One such council as the Wellington Shire with the mayor
27:05
Speaker 2: going so far as to save today. We're not one
27:08
Speaker 2: of the woke city councils. We've good on that mayor
27:11
Speaker 2: their counselor, Scott Rosetti joins me. Now, Scott, I loved
27:17
Speaker 2: hearing your fore throat at support for our National Day.
27:20
Speaker 3: It was refreshing.
27:21
Speaker 2: It was absolutely in seek with how I reckon a
27:24
Speaker 2: majority of Australians feel about our country. I saw a
27:27
Speaker 2: report today though, that the reason why some of these
27:30
Speaker 2: councils and they are diminishing opposed Australia Day events was
27:34
Speaker 2: they say it's too hot, it's too expensive. If you
27:38
Speaker 2: make us do what, we want to be compensated for
27:40
Speaker 2: doing it. What do you make of those sorts of comments?
27:43
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, Peter, and I don't know why you wouldn't
27:46
Speaker 1: celebrate Australia Day anyone who travels around the world, if
27:49
Speaker 1: you've been fortunate enough to get around the place. I
27:52
Speaker 1: don't think there's anywhere that even remotely matches our country
27:55
Speaker 1: in terms of the lifestyle and safety and facilities. Down
28:00
Speaker 1: here in the bottom right end corner of Australia, in
28:02
Speaker 1: the middle of everywhere, we have everything we need and
28:05
Speaker 1: we can travel Australia to travel the world. It's just
28:07
Speaker 1: fabulous to be in Australia, and so we would always
28:10
Speaker 1: want to celebrate Australia Day.
28:14
Speaker 2: The Lord Mayor and adelaide Jane Lomex Smith, who I
28:17
Speaker 2: declare was a former Labour State MP. She says, if
28:21
Speaker 2: you make us do stuff on the twenty six, we
28:23
Speaker 2: want to be compensated for all the extra costs. I mean,
28:27
Speaker 2: you have a very full schedule on Australia Day. You
28:30
Speaker 2: don't get compensated for any of that. Give us a
28:33
Speaker 2: sense of what you make of her remarks and what
28:35
Speaker 2: you actually do in your shire on Australia Day.
28:39
Speaker 1: Well, now, Shire Peter, we do have. Everything is community
28:43
Speaker 1: them and that way the community are actually invested, so
28:46
Speaker 1: we don't put council staff around and say, you know,
28:49
Speaker 1: we control everything. We actually fund the community groups in
28:54
Speaker 1: fourteen different townships to be able to ideally cover all
28:59
Speaker 1: of their costs, and of course they're volunteers then are
29:01
Speaker 1: running these events, so not only is efficient and economic,
29:06
Speaker 1: it's actually invested in the community. So people turn up
29:09
Speaker 1: and they love it. It's much better when the community
29:12
Speaker 1: can lead these things and do these things, and often
29:14
Speaker 1: the outcomes are nuanced to those individual communities. But we've
29:18
Speaker 1: got forty one new citizens being made citizenized whatever the
29:25
Speaker 1: word is on Australia Day, and from something like eighteen
29:29
Speaker 1: different countries. It's nuts and they're choosing to be naturalized
29:34
Speaker 1: on Australia Day and that's exciting. You see people taking
29:39
Speaker 1: that step. It's actually a huge, huge credit to Australia.
29:43
Speaker 1: They actually are choosing to move here and to take
29:46
Speaker 1: on citizenship, which is a big step. I'm always amazed
29:50
Speaker 1: on those days. I think if I went to another
29:53
Speaker 1: country and became not Australian and something else. It's a
29:57
Speaker 1: massive step for people to make. But they're making it.
30:02
Speaker 2: And of course, if you sit in on one of
30:05
Speaker 2: those ceremonies, and I've done it for many years, when
30:07
Speaker 2: I work for politicians and absolutely reignites your own passion
30:11
Speaker 2: for Australia. It's a bit like I say, if you've
30:13
Speaker 2: got money in your pocket, you can afford to travel overseas.
30:16
Speaker 3: It's that flight.
30:17
Speaker 2: Home as you're approaching your home airport in your land,
30:20
Speaker 2: in this country. If you could bottle up that feeling
30:23
Speaker 2: we all have when we come home to Australia and
30:26
Speaker 2: we thank God that we've won the lottery of life
30:28
Speaker 2: to live here. If you could bottle that up, you'd
30:30
Speaker 2: be a billionaire.
30:31
Speaker 8: Right.
30:31
Speaker 2: It's a very special feeling and society that we can't
30:35
Speaker 2: be proud about our country, that we all think how
30:38
Speaker 2: our best days are behind us. I think that's just
30:41
Speaker 2: completely wrong headed, and I feel amongst your local council
30:45
Speaker 2: brethren there's been a real shift in how they've felt
30:49
Speaker 2: in recent years about this about Australia Day.
30:51
Speaker 3: On the twenty six. Yeah.
30:53
Speaker 1: Look, I think when I get together with the councils
30:56
Speaker 1: at our regular events, I'll probably get a bit of
30:58
Speaker 1: Micky taken about referring to the way city councils, But
31:01
Speaker 1: by the same token, I am feeling the same thing. Look,
31:04
Speaker 1: it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea. And
31:06
Speaker 1: there's always things that we could do better, and there's
31:10
Speaker 1: always ways we can reflect on history to understand the
31:13
Speaker 1: impact of the English coming here on all people. But
31:18
Speaker 1: that put aside, it's just an amazing place to be
31:21
Speaker 1: and for you landing the plane. For me, it's if
31:24
Speaker 1: we have international guests coming in, showing them around, showing
31:28
Speaker 1: them out backyard, and it doesn't matter whether you're in
31:30
Speaker 1: the Wellingtonshire or whether you're up around Sydney or you're
31:33
Speaker 1: up in Queensland or Perth or wherever, the fact that
31:36
Speaker 1: these people coming here are just amazed at what we
31:39
Speaker 1: take for granted, the open spaces. People came to me
31:45
Speaker 1: from overseas who said that they don't know where their
31:48
Speaker 1: taxes go in their own country. At least here we
31:51
Speaker 1: know where they go. We can argue about how they're spent,
31:54
Speaker 1: but often in countries that simple ability to see a
31:56
Speaker 1: budget people don't see. So we have a lot to
32:00
Speaker 1: thankful for and Australia is a great day for that.
32:05
Speaker 2: Well good on you, Scott, as I said shot in
32:08
Speaker 2: my arm today when I read your comments, they were fantastic.
32:11
Speaker 2: I think my viewers are listening to you tonight wishing
32:14
Speaker 2: there was more mayors around the country just like you,
32:16
Speaker 2: so thank you for joining us there. He is there,
32:19
Speaker 2: Mayor of Wellington Shire in Victoria, Scott Rosetti, all right,
32:23
Speaker 2: let's stay in Victoria where a former Treasurer, Tim Pallace. Well,
32:27
Speaker 2: he's been living large, slugging taxpayers over a ten year
32:30
Speaker 2: period for more than six hundred and fifty thousand dollars
32:33
Speaker 2: in travel for fourteen international junkets. Now he's not our
32:37
Speaker 2: foreign minister. He's a former state politician.
32:41
Speaker 3: But perhaps most.
32:42
Speaker 2: Galling of all, he's spent seventy two thousand dollars on
32:46
Speaker 2: one tour to Europe in October last year, just one trip,
32:51
Speaker 2: despite being known to be on his way out the
32:54
Speaker 2: door and retiring from politics at the time, joined me
32:58
Speaker 2: in now to.
32:59
Speaker 3: Discuss this range.
33:00
Speaker 2: Shadow Minister for Industry and Economic Growth, Jess Wilson. Well,
33:04
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Jess, I mean over his time
33:07
Speaker 2: in office, six hundred and fifty thousand dollars for a
33:10
Speaker 2: state treasurer. As I said, he's not foreign minister, I mean,
33:13
Speaker 2: I reckon, that's obscene. But seventy two thousand dollars for
33:17
Speaker 2: one trip, I mean that's a home deposit in Victoria.
33:22
Speaker 3: That's right.
33:23
Speaker 13: It's eye watering when it comes to the fact it's
33:25
Speaker 13: Victorian taxpayers money. It's not the Victorian governance money, it's
33:30
Speaker 13: taxpayers money. And it just demonstrates once again that the
33:33
Speaker 13: Allen Labour government here in Victoria does not have its
33:37
Speaker 13: priorities right. The Premier must justify how she allowed her
33:41
Speaker 13: outgoing treasurer, her outgoing Minister for Economic Growth to jet
33:45
Speaker 13: set over to Europe on an international farewell tour just
33:49
Speaker 13: two months before he pulled the pin and retired. It's
33:52
Speaker 13: absolutely outrageous, particularly Peter in a state that has the
33:56
Speaker 13: highest debt in the country, the highest taxes in the country,
34:00
Speaker 13: and in the coming years Victorians will be paying more
34:03
Speaker 13: than one million dollars an hour in interest repayments alone
34:07
Speaker 13: on that eye watering debt.
34:11
Speaker 2: One million dollars an hour, and of course a lot
34:15
Speaker 2: of this debt growth occurred under his watch. He's basically
34:19
Speaker 2: just washed his hand walked out the door. Even the
34:21
Speaker 2: acting Premier today, Ben Carroll, a former colleague, he struggled
34:25
Speaker 2: to justify it.
34:26
Speaker 3: Have a listen, these trips have to be justified.
34:30
Speaker 14: They have to provide for the taxpayer. And look all
34:33
Speaker 14: my trips, you write a written report and you justify
34:36
Speaker 14: it and you highlight what economic activity it's produced. And
34:40
Speaker 14: I look forward to seeing the written reports that's done
34:42
Speaker 14: on this one.
34:43
Speaker 15: Would you want taking the same trip if.
34:45
Speaker 2: You're in history, No, a written report after the guys
34:51
Speaker 2: left is a joke. But I mean, you and I
34:53
Speaker 2: have both worked in politics behind the scenes. You are
34:55
Speaker 2: right to point out he couldn't just go on this
34:58
Speaker 2: trip unless just sent Allen signed it off.
35:03
Speaker 3: She signed this.
35:03
Speaker 13: Off absolutely absolutely, And the Treasurer put out a media
35:08
Speaker 13: release the day he was leaving Victoria to go on
35:10
Speaker 13: this international jaunt. And this isn't the first trip he's
35:13
Speaker 13: taken this year either. Earlier in the year he went
35:16
Speaker 13: off to the US and Canada, and both on that
35:18
Speaker 13: trip and his trip to Europe in October, the Treasurer
35:22
Speaker 13: was over there trying to sell off Victoria's debt, meeting
35:26
Speaker 13: with Canadian pension funds, meeting with the Bank of England,
35:28
Speaker 13: the Bank to France to actually try and sell treasury
35:32
Speaker 13: bonds here in Victoria. So instead of going overseas to
35:36
Speaker 13: grow Victoria's economy to find investment, he was actually going
35:39
Speaker 13: over there to grow Victoria's debt. It flies in the
35:42
Speaker 13: face of respect when it comes to Victoria's taxpayer money.
35:46
Speaker 3: You're not wrong. Before you go. There was a press
35:49
Speaker 3: conference today.
35:50
Speaker 2: We played a little bit there with Ben Carroll, who's
35:52
Speaker 2: the acting Premier, but the police sent their helicopter to
35:57
Speaker 2: circle his press conference to send a very very clear
36:00
Speaker 2: message about their long running pay dispute. I mean, given
36:05
Speaker 2: the crime crisis in this state, Jess, surely this has
36:08
Speaker 2: got to be resolved now as a matter of urgency.
36:14
Speaker 3: It absolutely does.
36:15
Speaker 13: And it just goes back to the point here, Peter,
36:18
Speaker 13: that this government cannot manage money because of the state
36:22
Speaker 13: of the finances here in Victoria, because of the fact
36:24
Speaker 13: Victoria's net debt is set to saw to one hundred
36:27
Speaker 13: and eighty eight billion dollars by twenty twenty eight, they
36:30
Speaker 13: cannot sit down with Victoria Police and find a fair
36:33
Speaker 13: pay deal. And the consequences of that is that we
36:36
Speaker 13: have the highest youth crime rates since two thousand and nine.
36:39
Speaker 13: We have the highest number of criminal incidents ever since
36:43
Speaker 13: the Statistics Agency started. That means that people don't feel
36:46
Speaker 13: safe in their homes, They don't feel safe in their
36:48
Speaker 13: small businesses and they don't feel safe on the streets,
36:50
Speaker 13: and it's a direct result of the financial mismanagement in
36:53
Speaker 13: this state. Now, the Libs are fine hard, stay united
36:59
Speaker 13: and actually take the fight up to this government.
37:03
Speaker 3: You've had a rocky couple of years.
37:04
Speaker 2: Now there's two years to go before the next poll.
37:07
Speaker 3: Where are we headed, Jess.
37:10
Speaker 13: We have to work united, We have to work as
37:12
Speaker 13: a team because Victorians deserve a government that is going
37:14
Speaker 13: to put them first. They deserve a government that is
37:16
Speaker 13: going to treat with their taxpayer money with respect. They
37:20
Speaker 13: deserve a government that is going to take responsible decisions
37:23
Speaker 13: to make sure that we are investing where the state
37:26
Speaker 13: needs it, in our hospitals, in our police, in our
37:29
Speaker 13: frontline services, not in a train line, the suburban railroop
37:32
Speaker 13: that's going to cost over two hundred billion dollars. We
37:35
Speaker 13: want to get our priorities right, present that to the
37:37
Speaker 13: Victorian people and make sure we see a change of
37:40
Speaker 13: government here in two years time.
37:43
Speaker 3: Well, good on your jests. Thank you for joining me tonight.
37:45
Speaker 2: Right after the break the pressures on as residents demand
37:48
Speaker 2: answers from the Democratic Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, We'll
37:51
Speaker 2: go to La for a moment. We'll talk about the
37:53
Speaker 2: Trump inauguration too, and Kevin Ryder, You've got to wonder
37:56
Speaker 2: how long you can stay in the role as ambassador
37:58
Speaker 2: if it is old best, Julie, the Bishop.
38:00
Speaker 3: Says, watch this space.
38:06
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the carm we'll get into the details
38:08
Speaker 2: of what we're going to expect now from the upcoming
38:11
Speaker 2: inauguration of Donald Trump next week.
38:13
Speaker 3: A bit of the details coming out.
38:15
Speaker 2: Also confirmation hearing from your cabinet are underway. The first
38:19
Speaker 2: the latest on the wildfires, of course devastating Los Angeles.
38:22
Speaker 3: To do that and cover them off.
38:23
Speaker 2: I'm joined now by our Washington correspondent, Analyse Nielsen. Analse,
38:28
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. I know you're on the ground.
38:30
Speaker 2: There are fears that the death toll will continue to rise.
38:33
Speaker 2: We've got strong winds forecast to return. What's the latest.
38:41
Speaker 8: Look.
38:41
Speaker 16: The latest is the fear is exactly as you say,
38:44
Speaker 16: that there could be more people who've perished in these
38:46
Speaker 16: fires than we know right now. Twenty four have been confirmed,
38:50
Speaker 16: but there have been patrols of cadaver dogs trying to
38:53
Speaker 16: ascertain if any more people have lost their lives in
38:56
Speaker 16: these burnt out buildings, and when you have fourteen thousand
38:59
Speaker 16: structures us the city, that's not a process you can
39:01
Speaker 16: do quickly. There's also the subsequent deaths that could be
39:05
Speaker 16: related to it. One man we interviewed today said his
39:08
Speaker 16: mother was elderly and had to be evacuated and died
39:12
Speaker 16: in hospital on the way to another location. And so
39:16
Speaker 16: there'll be questions about whether those kind of deaths are
39:19
Speaker 16: part of the official toll. We're about four hours away
39:22
Speaker 16: from the official wind warning coming back in. That's four
39:25
Speaker 16: am local time here in Los Angeles. They're expected to
39:28
Speaker 16: pick up and go right through to Wednesday local times.
39:31
Speaker 16: So that's the real risk is that any fires could
39:34
Speaker 16: pick up in a very dramatic fashion. We have the
39:37
Speaker 16: two major firefronts here in Los Angeles, the Palisades and
39:41
Speaker 16: the Eton Fire, both still out of control. They've been
39:45
Speaker 16: burning away from the city, but a quick change in
39:47
Speaker 16: wind could have those firefronts traveling right back towards Los
39:51
Speaker 16: Angeles and some highly populated suburbs.
39:56
Speaker 2: Let's go to the political fallout, because prior to this tragedy,
40:00
Speaker 2: the governor of there, Gavin Uso, was mooted as a
40:03
Speaker 2: potential Democrat presidential candidate. Certainly his name was mentioned in
40:07
Speaker 2: dispatches this time round. He's still on the table going forward,
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Speaker 2: or was until this incident. A lot of pressure about
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Speaker 2: is environmental policies and how much he's personally to blame.
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Speaker 3: Is this the end of the row for Newsom?
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Speaker 16: Well, look, the tricky thing with a recall of Newsom,
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Speaker 16: which is a vote that voters can do in some
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Speaker 16: states in the United States to essentially force out elected officials,
40:34
Speaker 16: is that it does take a significant number. When there
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Speaker 16: was a recall vote trying to take Gavin Newsom out
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Speaker 16: over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and the shutdowns
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Speaker 16: in California, he needed over one point one million signatures
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Speaker 16: to take him out and they didn't get to that number.
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Speaker 16: He is now term limited as well, so he'll be
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Speaker 16: finishing up at the end of twenty twenty six and
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Speaker 16: handing over at the beginning of twenty twenty seven. So
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Speaker 16: then the question is for vote is how much can
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Speaker 16: you throw money at something like this? And essentially this
41:04
Speaker 16: is still a very Democrat state and so the numbers
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Speaker 16: aren't in their favor. When he won by sixty percent
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Speaker 16: fifty four percent the second time, It's not an easy proposition,
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Speaker 16: but I can.
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Speaker 3: Tell you people here are angry.
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Speaker 16: They are furious around how this has been handled, the
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Speaker 16: questions over water. Those who aren't in just the throes
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Speaker 16: of trying to get the basic necessities together to survive.
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Speaker 16: Those especially we've spoken to who've been evacuated, have homes
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Speaker 16: still standing but don't know if they'll survive another week,
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Speaker 16: are furious. And that's across the board, Republicans, Democrats. The
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Speaker 16: handling of water, the fact that there weren't the resources
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Speaker 16: in time, and the environmental laws that meant there was
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Speaker 16: excessive amounts of brush around highly populated areas are the
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Speaker 16: big questions we're hearing.
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Speaker 2: I know it's close to midnine. I really appreciate you
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Speaker 2: join us tonight. Thank you, Analise. Now it seems Mania
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Speaker 2: trying to get on Donald Trump's good books, get on
41:56
Speaker 2: his good.
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Speaker 3: Cyb before he returns to the White House.
41:59
Speaker 2: Lip reader is a having a field day trying to
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Speaker 2: decipher he's quite friendly banter with Barack Obama at the
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Speaker 2: recent funeral for former President Jimmy Carter. Trump even posted
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Speaker 2: this version on truth Social.
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Speaker 6: Well, mister Presler, for a second time, bro, I'm very
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Speaker 6: nice to see you. Congratulations to how you do it
42:23
Speaker 6: a lot better day. I bet you know you win totally. Well,
42:28
Speaker 6: come on, anyone could beat her, kitty sister, I was
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Speaker 6: just as a poem.
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Speaker 8: You don't know what happened.
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Speaker 3: He just didn't want to leave.
42:37
Speaker 8: I know this is what happened. I did what I
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Speaker 8: could to help her. She was for a singer.
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Speaker 6: Do you know when I realized Hilary so.
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Speaker 3: Much?
42:47
Speaker 6: I know she'll never forget me. We shouldn't mean to discuss.
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Speaker 8: I think so soon. We can definitely set something up.
42:59
Speaker 8: Let me know, whenever.
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Speaker 6: Would ask you, I was gonna fly back to Fida
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Speaker 6: tomorrow for the girls.
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Speaker 8: Okay, did you see that? She won't even a look
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Speaker 8: at WILLI.
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Speaker 6: I was told some of her people apparently they said
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Speaker 6: she fell off the wagon.
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Speaker 8: I'd think she actually made her sure. And also she's
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Speaker 8: not really built for this app.
43:51
Speaker 2: That's making you smile, which is mad Smile that's on
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's own social media feed.
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Speaker 3: It's an interpretation.
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Speaker 2: Well, how close is it to the truth. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that after the break. We'll also get into the inauguration.
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Speaker 2: Julie Bishop, who says, watch this space about our old
44:05
Speaker 2: mate Kevin Ruight and Moore.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Preparations well and away for next week's inauguration of Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: which will of course take place in Washington.
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Speaker 13: D C.
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Speaker 3: The schedules now been released.
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Speaker 2: Is even a Maga victory rally on the day before
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Speaker 2: mister Trump is sworn in January twenty that's their time.
44:26
Speaker 2: Inauguration Day, of course, is packed with a whole lot
44:28
Speaker 2: of events, including a presidential parade and three balls should
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Speaker 2: I mean out of discussing more, and a whole lot
44:35
Speaker 2: of other stories too.
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Speaker 3: Internationally.
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Speaker 2: Scann's contributed Kosher Gada, past chair of the Parliament's Foreign
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Speaker 2: Affairs and Defense Committee, Michael Danby, Well, Kosher, what do
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Speaker 2: you make of inauguration two points zero?
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Speaker 3: For Donald Trump?
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Speaker 17: It is going to be historic in many ways, but
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Speaker 17: really two ways, Peter. I think the tonality of it,
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Speaker 17: just given the comeback, the incredible, astonishing comeback that history
44:59
Speaker 17: is politically that's going to undergird the whole d's events,
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Speaker 17: and you're going to see the tonality of triumphalism and
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Speaker 17: victory with those rallies and so forth. But also in
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Speaker 17: terms of the substance there's reportedly he has geared up
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Speaker 17: more than one hundred executive orders his team has ready
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Speaker 17: to go. They're much more well prepared than last time.
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Speaker 17: And right after his hand comes off the Bible at
45:18
Speaker 17: high noon, people are expecting to see a flurry of
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Speaker 17: executive orders in the lake coming through, and it'll be
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Speaker 17: very interesting to analyze that in the twenty four hours later.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll be very dangerous to the left
45:30
Speaker 2: second time round. I look at his appointments, his forward program.
45:35
Speaker 2: He's a lot more deliberate. He's a lot more planned out.
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Speaker 2: It's not sort of happened by accident. I mean he
45:41
Speaker 2: is very very deliberate. In terms of the new administration.
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Speaker 2: We know the foreign minister's going. I think that's unusual.
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Speaker 2: We'd normally send a deputy Prime minister. Julie Bishop Michael
45:52
Speaker 2: has made some comments to say watch this space in
45:55
Speaker 2: relation to Kevin Rudd remaining as our ambassador.
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Speaker 3: That's interesting too.
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Speaker 2: And I think more broadly Greg Sheridan's piece today in
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Speaker 2: the Australia. I'll talk to him tomorrow nine about this,
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Speaker 2: But I mean he has gone very very hard against
46:11
Speaker 2: the alber Eazy government and they're handling a foreign policy
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Speaker 2: and defense and more. I mean, do you think the
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Speaker 2: Prime minister should have gone in this case, or at
46:20
Speaker 2: least Richard Miles.
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Speaker 15: Richard Miles should have gone if the Prime minister was
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Speaker 15: not able, like Richard Miles should have gone instead of
46:29
Speaker 15: Dreyfus to Israel. It's downgrading these important events that should
46:37
Speaker 15: be made maximum opportunity of And Trump is You're exactly right.
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Speaker 15: Peter is more serious than people realize. They criticize him
46:46
Speaker 15: for the comments about Panama and Greenland. But what's the
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Speaker 15: bottom line to all of that. What's the thread that
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Speaker 15: sows all of this together. It's China. Trump is a
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Speaker 15: serious person about resisting China and our part of the world.
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Speaker 15: And thank heavens for the Americans because Australia certainly isn't
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Speaker 15: doing it with either our defense expenditure or inability to
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Speaker 15: say a word that's critical of the Chinese communists.
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Speaker 2: Just before we kicked off Kosher into the break, I
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Speaker 2: played that exchange that he posted on his social media
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Speaker 2: fee today.
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Speaker 3: A lip reader's view of a.
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Speaker 2: Discussion between Donald Trump and Barack Obama at the Carter funeral. Now,
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Speaker 2: who's today if it's absolutely right?
47:28
Speaker 3: But Donald Trump was there.
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Speaker 2: The fact that he posted it tells me maybe it's
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Speaker 2: on the money.
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Speaker 3: What did you make of it all?
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Speaker 17: It's classic vintage Trump taking a meme and putting it
47:41
Speaker 17: out there, and there's maybe a kernel of truth in it.
47:43
Speaker 17: It's also rhetorically very funny. It broke the internet. I
47:47
Speaker 17: think all of the mannerisms and who was snubbing who
47:50
Speaker 17: and who was smiling at who was far more interesting,
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Speaker 17: I hate to say it, than the actual service of
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Speaker 17: President Carter, and people have been talking about it since days.
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Speaker 17: I think it was also interesting because it lead bear
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Speaker 17: a lot of the criticisms were President of Obama himself
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Speaker 17: among others, kept saying he's a threat to democracy, or
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Speaker 17: this has sheets of Hitler and all of that, and
48:07
Speaker 17: then it's so funny to see them amicably laughing at
48:10
Speaker 17: and yucking it up in terms of subsistance, if there's
48:13
Speaker 17: any truth to it. I think international affairs is a
48:16
Speaker 17: key hot topic right now, and that's something they conversed
48:18
Speaker 17: about quite a bit in the last transition when it's
48:20
Speaker 17: switched from Obama to Trump. So maybe they're just picking
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Speaker 17: up on that. With everything that's happening in the world
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Speaker 17: right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're focusing fabit on what's going to happen in
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Speaker 2: the US on day one, but already around the world
48:33
Speaker 2: that they're factoring and looking at what the Trump.
48:36
Speaker 3: Presidency will mean for them in their countries.
48:39
Speaker 2: The Middle East in particular, there's talk of a gas
48:42
Speaker 2: a ceasefire deal that could happen within hours of him
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Speaker 2: being sworn in and hostages being released.
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Speaker 3: God, we all hope. So, Michael, what do.
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Speaker 15: You think it's only happening because the Donald is there.
48:55
Speaker 15: Can you imagine how much surrendering and doing a cease
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Speaker 15: fire with the Biden people not possible. Let's hope there
49:03
Speaker 15: is a cease fire. But those Humas people, the Devil's Peter,
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Speaker 15: the thirty four names that have been published, Imagine they
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Speaker 15: pull out at the last minute. Imagine the families and
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Speaker 15: the whole society that's willing for these thirty four poor people
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Speaker 15: to come home from the four hundred days in these degraded,
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Speaker 15: depraved tunnels with Hamas. So Donald Trump is making a
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Speaker 15: big changes all over the world, including the benefiting Australia,
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Speaker 15: by making the Chinese government the Chinese communists a bit
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Speaker 15: more scared of what he might do in this part
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Speaker 15: of the world.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, if anyone can do it. I think
49:41
Speaker 3: he can.
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Speaker 2: Certainly in relation to Hamas you are right, they are
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Speaker 2: the devil incarnate.
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Speaker 3: I'll leave it there.
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Speaker 2: Thank you both for talk all about integration next year,
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Speaker 2: next year, next week.
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Speaker 3: That's it for VSA tomorrow night. Andrew Bolt's up next