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Ice Ice Baby! · Goon Tavern

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the Goon Tavern.
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SPEAKER_01: I am your host, Jamie McKeever.
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SPEAKER_01: I am the Goon.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm so glad that you tuned in today for today's topic.
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SPEAKER_01: But not only just a topic, but we also have an amazing person here in the studio with me right now.
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SPEAKER_01: And he doesn't need an introduction, but we want to introduce him anyway, because otherwise it's just gonna be a person talking that you don't know who they are.
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SPEAKER_01: So I probably should say who you are.
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SPEAKER_02: You probably should.
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SPEAKER_01: I probably should.
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SPEAKER_01: We have the sexy Latino.
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SPEAKER_01: The sexiest Latino.
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SPEAKER_01: Sexiest Latino.
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SPEAKER_01: You're right.
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SPEAKER_01: I should rephrase that.
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SPEAKER_01: We should change it to sexiest Latino.
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SPEAKER_01: Especially like right.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know that many sexy Latinos, honestly.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: Especially of your caliber and who you are as a person, it's just hard to come by.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: It's we were separate at birth, even though we are not the same ethnicity, which is quite a miracle.
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SPEAKER_02: Or a couple years apart.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know what you would even call that.
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SPEAKER_01: What would that be like half brothers that don't eat uh if you were both adopted brothers?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe something like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Adoptive brothers but different moms.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like that movie.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that even possible?
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SPEAKER_02: Day Navito and Arthur.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You gotta have the tall and then the fat short guy, which makes no sense whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_02: We're like both short fat guys.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: Gosh, man, a lot of stuff going on today.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, a bunch of stupid people out there.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of stupids out there.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of stupids.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, as a stupid, I can say that.
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SPEAKER_01: Stupid.
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SPEAKER_01: I think you're too hard on yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: You have more brains than other people, let me tell you.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you use the one that God gave you.
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SPEAKER_01: But one thing that like we were talking about that we wanted to discuss is just what is going on right now in America with these like ice raids.
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SPEAKER_01: Clearly, people are up in arms, upset on the left.
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SPEAKER_01: And I just find it like it's interesting to me because if you take some of these scenarios where people have gotten shot because they have inserted themselves in already a hostile situation, it's like equivalent of if you pass someone that's getting a ticket on the freeway and you pull over, you get out of your car, and then you stand in front of the officer as he's trying to give the ticket to the guy that should be getting the ticket.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You just don't understand like what is going on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: That person, let's say they're getting a ticket, they're so convinced that person is being oppressed.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean there's it's brainwashing.
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SPEAKER_02: They're so convinced in their own head.
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SPEAKER_02: It's scary.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's what the other thing too is I think people don't understand with ice is that they do more than just immigration stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Like sex traffickers and pedophile.
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SPEAKER_01: That's who they go and arrest as well.
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SPEAKER_01: And I know some people have shown evidence of where some people have been wrongfully arrested.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's not good.
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SPEAKER_01: I can be fair in that assessment.
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SPEAKER_01: But if we look at like how many have been wrongfully arrested, I'm sure even if we look at normal police officers, people that get wrongfully arrested as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's not like it's something new or out of the ordinary.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just that there's these bleeding heart liberals that have nothing better to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Most of the time, white liberal women, because I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: That's Satan's favorite pick of the letter.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like Satan's like, let me just pick what would be the most annoying object that I can possess to do my bidding.
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SPEAKER_01: I will choose the white liberal women.
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SPEAKER_02: I see I also see a lot of all these old boomer types.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: They think it's Vietnam all over again.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they think, oh, it's the six.
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SPEAKER_02: Remember the 60s?
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SPEAKER_02: We stood for something.
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SPEAKER_02: They're just aging hipsters.
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SPEAKER_02: It's disgusting.
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SPEAKER_01: Because the smartest boomer was the one that decided to put flowers in the barrel of guns.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sure that was maybe someone didn't enlighten him to let him know that, okay, you're not going to stop a bullet with that.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Boomers.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm just wondering what you think, too, because you yourself, your parents are immigrants to this country.
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SPEAKER_01: And I want to clarify legal immigrants, because I think their distinctions are just getting so blurred today.
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SPEAKER_01: We keep on using this word migrants.
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SPEAKER_01: We just throw it out there like infetti, which I think is so stupid to me, because it doesn't mean anything.
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SPEAKER_01: A migrant is just someone that moves from one location to another, and that's not what's taking place.
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SPEAKER_02: No, that's not at all what's taking place.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Tell us a little about yourself, though, like and your family.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you're like what, second generation or third generation, or which generation are you?
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SPEAKER_02: So my mom, born in Guatemala, she came here in the early 80s legally, and so did scandalous.
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SPEAKER_02: Scandalous, crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: Imagine that.
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SPEAKER_02: The nerve of doing things the way that it should be done.
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SPEAKER_02: And so her and her sisters, I forget how many there are now, five, I think, and she has three brothers.
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SPEAKER_02: They all came here, all legal, and they assimilated.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course, they kept their culture, but they love this country.
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SPEAKER_02: They love this country.
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SPEAKER_02: And she's been here since the early 80s, worked very hard, pays her taxes, does everything.
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SPEAKER_02: She loves the country.
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SPEAKER_02: And so each of the they're MAGA people.
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SPEAKER_02: And they're all for ICE enforcing laws that are perfectly reasonable.
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SPEAKER_02: I believe these laws are already in place.
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SPEAKER_02: They've just been ignored.
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SPEAKER_02: So it bothers me when I have this rich white kid tell me what I should believe about ICE.
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SPEAKER_02: When they're telling me that, oh, they're they're arresting him in the street, they're pulling him out.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, this c child was separated from their parents, this and that.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's ridiculous.
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SPEAKER_02: So don't tell me.
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SPEAKER_02: I know what's going on.
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SPEAKER_02: I've I see what's happening.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, my family is all for it.
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SPEAKER_01: So is your dad also Latino as well, or no?
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SPEAKER_01: He's the whitest man on earth.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's from Indiana.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Indiana's pretty white.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: Corn, corn fed.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Indiana, it's uh it's an interesting state.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: If you like racing, I guess they have the Indiana, what's it?
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SPEAKER_01: Indiana, what's it called?
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SPEAKER_01: Indianapolis 500.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, 500, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just not white enough to even know what that is, I guess.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't get more white than NASCAR.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, NASCAR and the way I see it, you got Indian Indiana, what is it?
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SPEAKER_02: Indy, IndyCar is what they call it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And then a step below, a little more rednecky is NASCAR.
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SPEAKER_02: IndyCar, they try to avoid wrecks.
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SPEAKER_02: NASCAR seems to be about wrecking.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it has to happen.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a requirement.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like when you're watching a hockey game.
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SPEAKER_01: You like there has to be a few fights.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Like otherwise, why did you go?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Like what's the point's worth?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it it totally makes sense.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's completely fair.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's interesting because like for my family, I would be, I'm trying to think as far as my generation, because mine goes back a little further, but my mom's side of the family were Italian.
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SPEAKER_01: They came through Ellis Island.
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SPEAKER_01: And they very much were like the same way.
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SPEAKER_01: Even though they're Italian, they wanted to learn English, they want to assimilate.
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SPEAKER_01: And like you said, like they're like, I think some people confuse this idea of a melting pot is the idea that there's no American culture attached to that.
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SPEAKER_01: Almost like they're like two separate things.
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SPEAKER_01: Like they, I think a lot of people that are coming to the America today, what's different between other cultures that came here from in the past is that there was the idea of we come to America because we want to be American.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think that is there as much.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know what your thoughts are on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Because from my perspective, I think what I see happening today is that people are coming here.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure, they like our benefits, they like the things that they're receiving compared to where they came from.
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SPEAKER_01: But this idea of if someone tells them, like, hey, you should learn English and you should try to become an upright citizen and not be dependent on the system.
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SPEAKER_01: And hey, you got to realize that some of your cultures are not American culture and that your religion is not going to be the main religion.
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SPEAKER_01: And you can't expect everyone to just coddle you and cater to your culture because you left your country to come to our country.
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SPEAKER_01: So that doesn't mean that just automatically you can just do whatever you want and not expect there to be any pushback.
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SPEAKER_01: I think some people get upset about that because I think that's I I talked about this on a podcast a while back, like the idea we don't even know what American culture is.
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SPEAKER_01: If we say American culture, people give you a weird look.
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SPEAKER_01: That's everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, I don't really think I agree with that, but what do you think that is?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I can define American culture, but I have to think about it for a second.
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SPEAKER_02: But uh you make a good point talking about people came to this country to be American.
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SPEAKER_02: And now it seems like you have so many people coming here wanting you to they don't want to be American, they want to be here, get the money, but to be you have to bend the need to their culture.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to bend the need to like how they were where they came from.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's never like the positive stuff, it's right, it's very seems to be very I don't know, just anti-Western culture.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's crazy because I see people like my family again, they came here, they worked very hard, they didn't get assistance.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that wasn't happening.
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SPEAKER_01: And that seems to be becoming rare and more rare.
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SPEAKER_01: It's almost seemed like it's a given automatic thing that happens to a lot of people when they first come over here.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: If you look like the earlier Ellis Island stuff, it was like you had to have a sponsor, you had to have a job waiting for you.
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SPEAKER_01: That's great.
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SPEAKER_01: And now it's that's not even the case.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you're aware of this, like too, that I I didn't know they changed this under I don't know if it was under Biden or when they changed it.
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SPEAKER_01: But asylum seeking used to be where it's like you couldn't return to your country because of either war, you were going to be killed because of either your belief system.
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SPEAKER_01: Like sometimes we would take Christian refugees, depending on the country, if it was a Muslim country because they're slaughtering Christians there.
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SPEAKER_01: But now it's based on where you can claim asylum if you can't afford to go live where you're at.
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SPEAKER_02: That's insanity.
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SPEAKER_01: If that's the case, that's like everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: Like well, not maybe not everyone, but a whole large percentage.
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SPEAKER_01: Like we're talking billions of people.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And if that's the case that you can claim that for asylum, then that's anyone.
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SPEAKER_01: There's not really like any, it's not even really like asylum as it used to be in the sense.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I'm sure you probably thought the same way.
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SPEAKER_01: I always thought it was always the idea like you're in danger of returning to your country because it's unstable for whatever reason, or you're in danger of your life being taken if you return.
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SPEAKER_01: Now it's not even that, it just has to do with economics.
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SPEAKER_02: Like what even qualifies for being able to afford where you're living?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't even know how they determine that.
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SPEAKER_01: That sounds pretty flexible.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know.
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SPEAKER_01: And in a way, like convenient because if you take the percentage of people that make less than two American dollars per day, it's like billions of people if you like break it down.
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SPEAKER_01: But yeah, like like back to my background stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Like when my grandparents came here, like my grandpa Ben, when he came, he ended up learning English by comparing his Bible to an English Bible in Italian, and reading the newspaper is how he learned English pretty much.
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SPEAKER_01: There was no classes or anything like that, but his idea, it's very common too.
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SPEAKER_01: There's one movie called Avalon.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've seen that one, but it has a young Elijah Wood in it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a pretty good film, but it's about a Polish family that came to America and it's about their American experience in the suburbs and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: And it was very much like that, how they would even change their last names to be more American, which is interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I would, it's weird to think of today because I don't think I would even go that far changing your name, but that's how much people believed in where they were going.
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SPEAKER_01: It's this is our new life.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is our new future, our new legacy that we're gonna build as here.
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SPEAKER_01: We're gonna put roots down here and we're gonna and that's what's funny too.
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SPEAKER_01: When you got these people that leave these countries that they don't like, but they go on vacation there, it just makes me like frown and go, Oh, okay, so is this really about the idea that you left such a terrible place?
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SPEAKER_01: If you can go, I like vacationing there, I just don't want to live there.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I saw just recently that Sweden changed their whatever, their their requirements to if you are a refugee, but if you go back to vacation or visit, then you can no longer maintain that status in Sweden because clearly it's safe enough to go back.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: And the left is in an uproar over that.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, interesting.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I know, and here's another thing that I thought was interesting too, because because I I I don't blame you, and I put you on the spot too, about the idea of okay, what is American culture?
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SPEAKER_01: If we said historically what was American culture, I would say like white, Anglo-Saxon, black Protestants is probably what I would say.
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SPEAKER_01: For like a long portion of America until probably around the 1900s, that probably shifted, because that's when Ellis Island opened up and there was a lot of immigrants that came over from Europe.
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SPEAKER_01: And because if you look at our history in terms of culture, I would say there's a mix of things.
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SPEAKER_01: There's because I think we always gravitate towards melting pot because that's what we've known mostly.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you look also the history, there's definitely a long portion of America where you have like Western would be like American culture, like rodeos, fairs, um, certain types of food in a way.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was a mix, sure, from other cultures.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of times it's funny when you try to look up like American food because usually it's like we just took stuff from other places and made it better.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Or we just deep fried it, which is the easiest way to do it and covered it in sugar.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: How do we process this?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's dang true, dude.
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SPEAKER_01: Because if you go to if you ever went to China or something, you go there, it's like you're not gonna find orange chicken.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not gonna find general Xiao.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe like press isn't.
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SPEAKER_01: Who is General Xiao?
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SPEAKER_01: They're not such a person.
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SPEAKER_01: You you make up dish that don't exist, but uh because I think that's something to ask ourselves too, because I think where we get because obviously, like a big problem that's happening in Europe right now is I believe, like, I because I asked this question.
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SPEAKER_01: I asked, what makes England England?
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SPEAKER_01: And what makes France and what makes German Germany?
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SPEAKER_01: And I think we don't want to really answer that question.
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SPEAKER_01: It's obvious because it's in the title itself.
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SPEAKER_01: Obviously, England's England because it's English, and France is France because of France, French, and Germany is because of Germans.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, the question, of course, comes to okay, where does the sovereignty of a country have a right to protect its culture from becoming so diluted that it doesn't longer exist?
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that's something I've been wrestling with right now because there's already cultures that kind of already do that, honestly.
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SPEAKER_01: Japan's a good example.
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SPEAKER_01: If you go to Japan, everything's very strict Japan.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of Japanese marry Japanese people.
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SPEAKER_01: Occasionally there might be like a Westerner that marries a Japanese person, but it's usually pretty difficult because there's definitely differences.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I would say Israel is another example.
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SPEAKER_01: The Jewish community, they have their religion, their culture in Israel to preserve their people group.
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SPEAKER_01: And that that's probably even more deeper than Japan in the sense of what has happened.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's interesting because you you mentioned Japan, because you go over there and you've been there.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: They have signs that say no foreigners.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: They don't serve people.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a different, like I would say that's wrong, right?
15:13
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I could see how people could look at it that way.
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SPEAKER_01: But then it's it's at the same time, too.
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SPEAKER_01: Is it the question, is it racist or if it's or is it in inclusive of what they want to preserve?
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SPEAKER_01: Do they have a right to do that?
15:26
SPEAKER_01: And we could maybe argue, okay, what to extent do we do that in the US?
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SPEAKER_01: I would say, yeah, because I think that's the question that I think needs to be asked too in the US.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: Because like my perspective is I think we take the obviously the constitution of the idea of freedom religion, we run with that to mean obviously the founding fathers are saying any faith.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't believe that.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: I believe when that was written, it was specifically about like Christian beliefs in that regard of like freedom.
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SPEAKER_01: Not in the sense that there couldn't be other faiths per se, but the idea that, like, yeah, you can come here, you can set your earth, but we're not gonna let you like a resurrect like a giant Hindu statue.
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SPEAKER_01: We're not gonna have it where you just build a giant mosque wherever you feel like, and just decide to, like, oh, we're gonna make things Muslim.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't think that the founding fathers thought that way.
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SPEAKER_01: Even if you take the founding fathers, because I know there's arguments in terms of like Jefferson and some of like Adams was Unitarian, he didn't believe in the Trinity.
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SPEAKER_01: Jefferson was more of a deist as well as Franklin.
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SPEAKER_01: But if you look at a large portion of the sirens of the Declaration of Plundits, they did have a belief faith in Christianity.
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SPEAKER_01: As well as if you look at the early constitutions of the states, most of them, except I think it was one, had it where like you had to, if you ran or you were in public office, you had to proclaim a faith in Protestantism or the Christian deity of the Trinity, pretty much.
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SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
16:49
SPEAKER_01: And that's something that's kind of lost because we don't know that.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: And so we would look at it today as that sounds pretty oppressive or pretty pretty exclusive.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: But you got to think of why did America start in the first place?
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SPEAKER_01: The pilgrims left because of oppression of faith to come here to have it where they could worship as they pleased and not have it where that would be interfered or polluted by others.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, then the question comes is okay, so if we take freedom of religion, because this is where I'm at, I want to know what you think about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I look at like Islam and I don't believe it's compatible with the constitution, because Sharia law is about dominance, it's about the idea like you have three options with Islam to either convert, become a slave, or you die.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how their culture has been for thousands of years.
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SPEAKER_01: The same example that I can see that's we're like we're obviously not there yet, but it will get there eventually, is if you just look at England or if you look at France or Belgium, heck, you like you have Sweden, which is like the main cities in Sweden are only 30% Swedish now.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
17:58
SPEAKER_01: I like what are your thoughts on that?
17:59
SPEAKER_01: Because I know there's a lot of conflict, even for myself, when I started thinking about these things, because it's natural to come think there's freedom of legend, you can believe in everything you want.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: But then the question is okay, you can believe whatever you want, but does that mean necessarily that you can basically dismantle the very foundation that's allowing the freedom in the first place?
18:15
SPEAKER_01: That's where I have an issue.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: This is one of those things where it's impossible to have a clear-cut answer or a clear-cut solution because it's just not how life works, especially when you're involving people.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, lots of people.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: I would say that if you come to this country, you should be free to worship, to have whatever religion you want within reason.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: We're not one of those like hypotheticals what if I'm a camminable and I have to eat people.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Sure, that's our term or Satanism or yeah.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: You come here, you should that should be like in a way, Satanism is allowed here too.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, honestly.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: That's a whole nother discussion.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: Sure, but side note, I have no problem with the guy who tore down the Satan altar in the Capitol.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: I have no problem with that.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no problem.
18:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm from that.
18:58
SPEAKER_01: I look at it as that's an Elijah moment.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: Tear it down.
19:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's yeah.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: Continue though, your thought.
19:05
SPEAKER_02: Like I think I think that yeah, you can come here, you can practice that because the pilgrims left because they wanted to practice and they weren't allowed to.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: So I think that should be preserved for people who come here.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, and this was where there's not the clear-cut answer, is that you see France, England, and you're like, that can't happen here.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know at what point you've got some come someone comes here.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: We'll use Islam as a as an example.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: They come here, they worship, and that's fine, right?
19:40
SPEAKER_02: Now I don't know where the line is between that guy who comes here to worship and just does his thing, he pays his taxes, he loves the country.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that every I don't think you being a Muslim and a practicing Muslim means you automatically hate America.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
19:55
SPEAKER_02: I think that's I think that's ridiculous, but but at what point does it become these people who do come here and they do hate this country, they do just want and hate England, they hate France, and they hate Germany, but they want the benefits, they want the money, they want the foundation to be there and then uh propagate those things that are anti-West.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where that is, but yeah, obviously something's happening because we can see it in Europe.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like this in a way, the there's this phrase that goes around that people get annoyed with, but they call it like toxic empathy.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of times people think how can empathy be toxic, and there's actually a book on this.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: But the idea is basically where people will use Christian empathy to abuse it to get what they want.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: So, in other words, there's nothing wrong with having compassion towards people, but when your compassion gets to the point where it's like you're blind to the motivations of others, that it's really manipulation, not true compassion.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: I would say a good example is this.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: We tend to do this also with the trans community.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: A lot of times the flip side is always like you don't know their backstory, you don't know where they come from, you don't know why they are the way they are.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, that's a part of it.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, that doesn't mean I'm just gonna sit by idly and just allow them to do whatever they want just because they're gonna feel bad because I say no.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Because I don't see, I don't see how how you get to a point where that just becomes like acceptable.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: Like in the idea, again, going back to Islam.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: If the culture of Islam is the idea of basically dominance, that I mean, we we already see this at like Oxford, like London, Yorkshire, like all these areas, they all have Muslim mayors already, even though they're a small percentage.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: Now, granted, there's probably some English people that voted for these people, some of them.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: No doubt.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: No doubt.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: We can look we can look right now, like New York just elected a Muslim.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Communists.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: So very progressive cities.
22:02
SPEAKER_02: I have no doubt that they're all for it.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: It's not surprising, but at the same time, it should make us sound the alarm, per se, of okay, is there a point where the constitution should be clarified that yes, you have freedom of religion, but if your religion is designed in a way to overthrow the very foundation of allows you the freedom of your own faith, is it then constitutional?
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And that's where I come from.
22:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Because I know we don't want to have that conversation because everyone and things like Kumbaya, everyone can do whatever they want.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: At the same time, though, it's okay.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: So then if we look at these examples of England and we look at these examples of France, where eventually it is no longer going to be predominantly Christian, it's not going to be predominantly French anymore, the French culture disappears, the English culture disappears.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Is that a good thing?
22:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's not the idea of because as like anyone can defend their own culture and their skin color except white culture.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Like you can't have it where it's the second, like any English person says, hey, there's not a lot of English people in London anymore.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: The first question they use that follows up is what do you mean by that?
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
23:15
SPEAKER_01: Are you saying that you don't like brown people?
23:17
SPEAKER_01: That's usually what comes up.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: But if we looked at it though, we don't do that with anyone else, though.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: If South Africa, because it was colonized, was annoyed that it was colonized because of whites, so what's the difference?
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Just reverse colonization, but in a legal manner?
23:33
SPEAKER_01: Is that the way we and that therefore that's okay now because it's done through the law?
23:38
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying, like hypothetically, because you can't have it both ways.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: You can't have the idea of we didn't like colonization because you pushed your culture into ours and ours disappeared as a result of it, and now we're just like mixed bunch, and we don't even know that what South African is anymore, or we don't know what it is to be Kenyan or Tanzanian.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Nobody would look at that and be like, oh, you don't have a leg to stand on.
23:59
SPEAKER_01: But if France said, hey, letting in all these immigrants that don't share our culture, don't share our values, it's not helping our culture, and our culture is in turn disappearing in the process.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: Because it doesn't even have to be white specifically.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: No.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: If I go to Thailand, I don't expect it to be Dutch.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: And there's something beautiful about different ethnicities and different people groups because that's who they are.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: That's who God created.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: And that's how, yeah, exactly.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's I don't know why people get to this idea where it's one can complain about, and that's where I think America is probably maybe a little more tricky because there are mixed ethnicities that are in America, but I do think there is an underlining of culture in America.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: There's and when I say culture, like people think, well, what does that mean?
24:49
SPEAKER_01: It's let's think about fourth of July.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: That's all full of culture.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: The fireworks, patriotism, industrious, ambitious, adventurous spirit.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: Christian.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: I would say, yes, Christian.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Culturally, it's Christian.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, and and granted, because some might ask the question, too, is why is it that people aren't so excited about going to church as they used to be in the 1800s?
25:11
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, there is some validity to that, that there was a cultural norm that, like, the weirdo would be the one that didn't go to church out of the village and stayed home.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: It's not like today where it's one guy goes to church and everyone looks at that guy as a weirdo.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: And sadly, that's to our detriment of how our culture has changed.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: But then the question we need to ask yourself is that the direction we want our culture to go?
25:31
SPEAKER_01: Is that really the type of quote unquote melting pot that we want?
25:34
SPEAKER_01: Where it's okay, we'll just accept all these demon faiths and just let Christianity die of what was the main focal point of why this country was started in the first place.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: Like maybe I sound like a racist, as most people would say.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: But I'm curious what you think.
25:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, gosh.
25:52
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot there.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: There's so much.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, and those are the things like you can.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: And that's okay if you think about it, write a paper because it's like to the empathy thing that you had mentioned.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: I think part of the issue there is that like people, especially in the past, until recently, I think in the West, in the US, they were very empathetic.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: They were very like, we need to help these people.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: They just believed.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: They gave people the benefit of the doubt.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: They kind of just believed like, oh, this person means well.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: Like almost like a ignorance in a way.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Or naive.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: Very, yes.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: Yes, very naive.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: I think about people who would just watch the media and they believe whatever they're told, like Walter Cronkite, things like that.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Past generations are like, they just believe, okay, this person's telling me the truth.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: I can believe them.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
26:37
SPEAKER_02: So I think that's where they have a microphone.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: They must be telling the truth.
26:39
SPEAKER_02: Yes, they've got a suit.
26:40
SPEAKER_02: Like us right now.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: They've got a nice job.
26:42
SPEAKER_02: Yes, listen to me because I'm barely clothed, but don't listen to these mass media people.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: No, because they and fall for it.
26:49
SPEAKER_02: And what the average CNN viewer is 70 years old.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: So I think that just That's old.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: It makes you wonder.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that beyond Boomer?
26:57
SPEAKER_02: That is there's I think they're smack dab.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably like the tail end of it.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: It's uh so I think that so a lot of them they see well, use immigrants, and they're like, okay, these poor people, they mean the best.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: And it's really hard for them to think that maybe they don't mean the best.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: So I think you and I and people who are who are growing up in this and stuff are who are they're the first people to really face this question.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: And it's not just the US, it's the West.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: And there's wait a minute, what's going on?
27:24
SPEAKER_02: People are pushing things we don't like.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: This isn't who we are.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: And it's hard to define, it's there.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: You can feel it, it's clearly tangible.
27:33
SPEAKER_02: And it's uh we're the I don't know, we're the first to really struggle with this and face this question of wait a second, we can't be Jesus, it's completely empathetic.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: You have to have some sort of discernment because there's something going on here.
27:43
SPEAKER_01: If you look at like a Nehemiah, okay, the book of Nehemiah, he builds a wall.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Why does he do that?
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Is it the idea that like he was just a Jewish person that hated everyone else?
27:53
SPEAKER_01: No, it was the idea of protecting the city and protecting those that he loves inside the city walls.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: That was the whole point.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: I think like where the immigration issue becomes super dicey is how we tend to think as Christians, the idea we like here's a good example that I find funny.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: Anytime I start to get like uppity with the government, everyone says Jamin, calm down, and they want to quote Romans 13.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: But if I say when someone's here illegally, and I say, like the ICE agents, for instance, they're practicing Romans 13.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: They are the governing authorities practicing the law to make sure that the law is enforced.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: Now we could argue how they go about it or their tactics, if you want to get into that, that's fine.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: But the very fact of the matter is like they are criminals.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm tired of this idea of they're not criminals, that they haven't done a crime.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, they did.
28:44
SPEAKER_01: If they're here illegally, they broke into the country illegally.
28:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: When you do something illegal, that's called what?
28:51
SPEAKER_01: A crime.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: So therefore, if you commit a crime, you're a what?
28:54
unknown: A criminal.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: So it's funny how we just want to per like twist language, just like we want to do as we want to call them migrants.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: You can't call them illegal aliens anymore.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: Even though it just so happens that I kid you not, like on my fiance's visa, it said alien fiance visa.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: It actually says that on the approval that I got.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Really?
29:12
SPEAKER_01: So they're still using the phrase.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: I heard some guy on CNN was like, why do you keep on calling them illegal aliens?
29:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, and the guy's like, because they are.
29:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:19
SPEAKER_01: But it's funny though, because like, even though all the countries I've gone to, there's still that respect for other nations and their sovereignty to govern their rules and what they say I have to do in order to enter their country.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: And so I don't, I just find it interesting because I could easily, because like I'm an American, I should be able to do whatever I want, but that's not the case.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: No.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, sure, I might be a part of the most powerful country in the world, that but doesn't give me a right to just go to, let's say, Barbados and say, I don't really care about your immigration.
29:48
SPEAKER_01: I can, I should be able to come in anytime I want.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: And I look at it when someone comes into our country illegally, even if it's for the quote unquote best intentions for themselves, it's still a matter of respect, though.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: Because all these people that squawk about like how they care so much about illegals, I'm pretty sure if one of these illegals opened their back gate, set up a tent, and started building a fire in their backyard, they'd probably be living.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: What was it?
30:16
SPEAKER_02: Martha's Vineyard that kicked them out in like less than 24 hours.
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gosh, man.
30:20
SPEAKER_01: Probably the fastest deportation in the world, dude.
30:22
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh gosh, this is making I cannot sip my gourmet coffee and see these people in my neighborhood.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh, but Trump, oh my god.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: Who's the racist?
30:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: These rich white left.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna need some backup.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: There's way too many brown people in my neighborhood right now.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Let's get them out.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Let's get some buses.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: Gosh, that's faster than Operation Wet back with Eisenhower.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they moved in the 50s.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: The rich left.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, they did.
30:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: So it's that kind of like hypocrisy.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: Don't give me this bleeding heart.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: You care about everyone.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: They don't.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: Because that's the that's really where it comes down to.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've seen it.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: I've seen several times where they have these like surveys where they'll be talking to people about like the immigrants and stuff, and they're like, oh yeah, but and they're like, oh yeah, I totally support them.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: And then they'll be like, Would you take we have a few people that need a place to stay?
31:04
SPEAKER_01: Could they stay with you?
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't right now.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: But that's how liberals are.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: Like their brilliant bleeding heart only goes as far as taxes.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: They're not gonna, they're not gonna get their own hands dirty.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:14
SPEAKER_02: It's a very skin deep thought process.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it's also disingenuous because it shows if you care about the homeless, you should go at least, I should at least see you maybe once a month at least, going to a soup kitchen to help volunteer.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: But if you're not, then it just kind of shows, or maybe you give money to like your rescue mission downtown or whatever, which I think is the best way to help those people because when you just give things out freely without any expectations, then anything's permissible.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: You don't have accountability with that.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: It's just, I'm sure you are like, for instance, my role that I have is I don't lend money to friends or family.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: I just give it if I can.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: And the reason why is because I don't want to have it where money is become this, oh, you owe me this and you owe me that.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: And then I'm constantly thinking of that number every time I see that person.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, when is he gonna pay me back?
32:02
SPEAKER_01: When's she gonna pay me back?
32:04
SPEAKER_01: I just don't think that's healthy.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: And I think in a way, that's how the taxpayer is feeling right now, because the taxpayer is looking at us, look, I can't afford groceries, I can't afford a house, I can't afford my rent.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: But yet someone comes over here that hasn't been an American, it's the same feeling as if you've been at a job for 20 years and the new guy shows up and they're the ones that get the promotion and the raise before you do.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Even though you've been working just as hard.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Screw that.
32:28
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: It's screw me for being born here.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're gonna treat me worse.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: It's like I was born here.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: You're an American.
32:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, sorry, you're second on the list right now.
32:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, we have to give money to all these other countries before you because uh quote unquote can't afford it, but uh yeah, we can't afford to take care of you.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but we can give this kind of free education.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's I remember Mitch McConnell getting up there's like, oh, basically, our number one like reason for support is gonna be Ukraine.
32:52
SPEAKER_01: That's gonna be our number one priority.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, wait, that's your number one priority?
32:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you represent Americans, and your number one priority is like what Ukraines need.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: Am I missing something here?
33:02
SPEAKER_02: They're playing to the boomers who grew up in Oh, Russia's the worst enemy ever.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not saying that they're not an adversary, but sure, they play to that.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: But it's just that's the kind of stuff though that ticks off Americans, and I think where a lot of younger people are at as well, because we are in a in effect, because like we're both in the same situation, we're wanting to be homeowners at some point in our lives.
33:25
SPEAKER_01: And like me, I'm in my 40s, you're not as old, obviously, but there's that mentality where it's like you feel the bar getting higher and higher.
33:33
SPEAKER_01: It's oh the down payment was 10,000.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: Now it's 20,000, then it's 30,000.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: And before it's like by the time you even try to get that much money put away, it's still never enough.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: It to meet the bar yourself.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: You're in real estate, so it's so it does seem that they want it to be unreachable for us, but for the elite, the Martha's Vineyard people, sure, and then the people who come here illegally or legally, either way, you have the two classes, right?
34:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: And but the middle, the middle class, us, they don't want us.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: And it really seems like they're squeezing us out of it.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: Because there's power with it, though.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: The wider the gap, the more power the person has.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: Because even like we've been hearing it for like how many years about the middle class, the middle class is disappearing.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, it practically doesn't exist anymore.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: Just doesn't.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm right now making more money than I ever had in my life, and I still can't afford a house.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: From my perspective, I'm like, okay, I'm at a good point in my life where it's probably like 10, 15 years ago, I'd be doing really well, but it doesn't matter.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that crazy?
34:38
SPEAKER_01: It's it it is crazy.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know, I I did like what Trump proposed about the idea of what was it with the BlackRock or not being able to buy single family homes.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you saw that.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
34:48
SPEAKER_02: So what were your thoughts on that?
34:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's good for it's good for the common man because you've got these companies like open door, they buy up all the houses because one day they want to own them all.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: And Trump had said that America will not be a nation of renters.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: That's perfect.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: We need somebody who's actually doing something about these massive companies and helping the average Joe.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: No, that'd be good.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: And I think too, even with the housing situation is a number of different things, too.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: I think uh Steven Crowder did a great breakdown of this actually.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: He kind of broke down all the different scenarios of it.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: I should put the like link in there though, because I think that'd be valuable for people to watch.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: Because I think a lot of times it's always we try to blame it all on one thing.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: It's all this is the main reason.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, for instance, like I'm from Utah.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: So, like right now, like Utah, only 12% of the entire state is buildable that you can build on that's allowed that, and that's 12% counting what has already been built on.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: And Utah has grown immensely, especially since the Olympics, the first Olympics, we're gonna have it again in 34.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: But part of the big reason is it always comes down to price of the land.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: So if you have it where a large percentage of the land is BLM land, which is Bureau of Land Management, state parks, national parks.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we shouldn't preserve parts of the country that are beautiful for people to enjoy and everything.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: But some of these state parks, they take up so much area that, like, most of it's yeah, there's nothing really significant about that area.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: It's just we just preserve it to preserve it, kind of thing.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: But the BLM land's a big thing too.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: It's like, why is the government owning land to begin with?
36:23
SPEAKER_01: So what happens is if you have a developer that comes in and let's say they do want to do because single family homes are not going to become cheaper because they can sell town homes and put more on one lot, but the land's so expensive.
36:36
unknown: Yeah.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: So that's why you're not getting a lot of single family homes.
36:40
SPEAKER_01: You're just getting a lot of like townhomes or like apartments, because that is something where you can be more profitable in the long run, especially if like you're if you're a contractor and you're you do the calculations sure, this same lot I can put one single house on, or I can put three.
36:58
unknown: Yeah.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: And so it's not entirely like the contractor is this bad boogeyman, but you think about if that's your living, what would you do?
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: The goodness of my heart, I'm just gonna make a thousand dollars building this entire house.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: It's gonna take me six months.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: He's not gonna make any money.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, nobody can live off of that, let alone play his employers and everything else.
37:16
SPEAKER_01: So this is the kind of pickle that we're in right now.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: And I think part of that is also with when you do have illegal immigration, people that shouldn't be here, that does increase rent as well.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: It does increase the scarcity of houses as well.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: And the quality as well of living goes down too.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: Because, like, I think you mentioned, like, you know, Callin, they were talking about like section eight housing, but that's just another thing.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's creating housing, but it's still tax subsidized.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: So that's still you and me that are still trying to save up money, we're the ones that still are left with the bill because it's not gonna be it gets spread equally.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: It's not what's all that bill just goes straight up to the rich.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it doesn't work that way, it's spread evenly.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: Just if you have property taxes, everyone pays for public school, everyone pays for like all these different programs pretty much equally.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: It's not like I know they want to always act the rich do pay a large portion of the taxes, considering, but a lot of them too have businesses, so there's a lot of stuff that they can write off.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: So if they want to complain about the idea that they're making so much money, it's gonna change the laws where it's a flat tax and everyone pays the same.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's gonna happen.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: But but yeah, I don't know.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: Like when I think kind of getting back to the whole like idea of American culture, when I think of American culture, I think of when I go to Boston or New York or Chicago, parts of California, like that to me is like American culture.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you think about that.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: I think it's like I said, I don't know how to define it.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: I'd have to think about that and probably write a paper.
38:46
SPEAKER_02: It's a little hard, but yeah, the thing is you have but just think about it and you have a vision in your head.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: That's probably American culture.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I mean?
38:53
SPEAKER_02: When you see kids in Serbia in Europe, whatever they're adopting from us, that's American culture.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
39:01
SPEAKER_02: You see it with a Bruce Springsteen shirt, whatever, the space race, things like that.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is that's American culture, and it's hard to define, but we can all agree on that it's being threatened.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's something that we can see because the especially the foundation of it, if if you have it where other cultures come in, but they don't value it's like this.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how this it's like if your dad bought you a new house and you're he's like, Hey, do you want to live in your crappy apartment or do you want to live in this new house?
39:36
SPEAKER_01: And you're like, I don't want to live in the new house.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: But you move into the new house and he's like, Hey, hey, these are uh these are some rules of why the house looks as it does, why it functions so well, why it looks clean, why it looks livable, hold to these principles as long as you live here, and you can live here as long as you want.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: Everyone would look at that, that sounds pretty reasonable.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: Because if the house represents the country, which would be the US, for instance, and I move in, but I don't take care of the lawn, I don't take the trash out, I leave crap all over the place, I don't I let the paint chip.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Sort of smoke and crack in the Yeah, you start it becomes a meph lab.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, see that's how I look at it.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: And come on, like we fool ourselves to thinking that every culture's the same.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: Because it's not, it's not, they're not.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: And it's a clear example, as I'm sure you ha have lived here in El Cone as I do.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: I go back to my old neighborhood and it does not look as it did.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: And some might say that just happens.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm sorry.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: It only happens here.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: People with their ideas though on how they value things, for instance, like my grandmother's house that just got sold, okay, for I don't know how many hundreds of thousands of dollars.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: It's like you buy a house and you don't have the ability to like care for the lawn or to take care of it, you just let the weeds grow everywhere.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: And it's like from my perspective, that's an idea of how someone was raised or their culture of how they're raised to value what they own.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: And like everybody knows if you're the one neighbor, you're the one house on a street that takes care of their lawn, takes their house, and it looks nice, and you look at everyone else's and it looks like a dump, it's pretty frustrating for you because your property value goes down because everyone else just doesn't care.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's the same with America.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know why we don't look at it as anyone that comes here is always going to contribute something good.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: I don't believe that.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that's true.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: No, it's demonstrably not true.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: No, it's not true.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: The reason why a lot of these people flee their countries is two things.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: Like one, they do want to become American and they want the blessings of America and they want to be American, or they come to our country because they want the benefits, but they don't want to change or accept the reason of why it makes it a good country in the first place.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: And it's here's a good example.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: It's just like when the left, like Californians leave California and they go to blue uh red state, and they're like, Oh, it's so nice here, but they still vote the same.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: And then it starts to get crappy where they live, and like, why does it suck here?
42:09
SPEAKER_01: And they don't want to look at themselves like that, you're the problem.
42:12
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's the same way with certain, like with certain immigrants that come here.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: It's like you're coming here, you're bringing your problems.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: You're not ex you're not accepting why our country is the way it is and why it's so good.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: And you left a crappy country to come here because you want what we have, but you're ignoring the very foundations that made it good in the first place.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: And it's the same thing with the left, how they do that.
42:38
SPEAKER_01: They'll just go to another state, they'll trash it, and then they're like, Man, it's so expensive here.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Why?
42:44
SPEAKER_01: Because you're voting for Democrats, duh.
42:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: I think the immigrants are even worse because they're like, okay, I like being whoever I am in this country, but man, this place sucks.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna go where it's nice, be given free money, yeah, free education, free food, free accommodation, cell phone, free cell phone housing, and I can stay who I was and I can just get paid to do it.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: They know what they're doing.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:13
SPEAKER_02: I remember a couple of years ago there was tons of migrants, I think from Syria.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: They were marching from the Middle East through Europe, and it was a huge convoy of people, and they had interviewed one of them.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: I think she was in like Slovenia, Slovakia, a nation that's not at war, right?
43:34
SPEAKER_02: Refugees.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: So they can go to any country that's not at war, but they don't go to any of them but the rich ones.
43:40
SPEAKER_02: And they interview the lady, and you're like, Oh, are you going to stay in Slovenia?
43:43
SPEAKER_02: And she's no, I'm going to Germany because Slovenia is a poor country.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: She has no fear for her life.
43:50
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: She wants welfare.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: No, it there's facts to that.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: And I think another example that's similar to that with like liberals is like whenever they say they hate the US.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Get to the point where they can't stay in the US.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: Where do they always want to go?
44:02
SPEAKER_01: Canada.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: None of them ever say I'm moving to Mexico.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: Wait a second.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: I thought Mexicans were the ones that you thought were just misunderstood and mistreated culture.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: If you like so dumb.
44:14
SPEAKER_01: If you like Mexico so much, then why don't you move to Mexico?
44:17
SPEAKER_01: No, because I'm going to move to Canada.
44:19
SPEAKER_01: Why?
44:19
SPEAKER_01: Because oh, I like how the policies are in Canada because they can because they know they can see the difference of how things run.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: Of course, Canada's probably not far enough.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: No.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: I would say at this point, I would probably rather move to Mexico than to Canada.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: The government's going to probably leave you alone in Mexico.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: Now you've got what's his name?
44:38
SPEAKER_02: Carney Cerny, whatever his name is.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: Now he's working with the Chinese.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like, oh, I'll stick it to you, America.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go with this commie over here.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Those yeah.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Oh, Canada.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I'm sure if you have listeners there, I'm sure there's a bunch of people in Canada, like, yeah, like I hate the left's the leftists in our country, my country.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: But my goodness, like, those poor people.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: Well, they got rid of their guns, man.
45:05
SPEAKER_02: They got rid of their guns.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: Same with England, same with Australia.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: And people think like it's something that's it's gonna happen overnight.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna happen overnight where it's gonna become full, like Mao kind of thing.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: But COVID was a good example of what we saw in England and in Australia, what they did to people that started a protest, like, oh, we're gonna put a stop to this.
45:25
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
45:25
SPEAKER_01: Canada with the truckers.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: That was crazy.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: That's a great example of it as well.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: People don't understand that our Second Amendment, as much as they want to criticize us, is like, oh, you gun-toting crazy Americans, you just always blow stuff up and you're always eating your plate of bacon with your loaded gun next to you.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: That's might be true.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: Depends on what state.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: I've had breakfast with a gun on the table for sure.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: That's hot.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is kind of hot.
45:49
SPEAKER_02: That's why they call me the sex.
45:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, it is hot because it's loaded.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a we're gonna have to talk about that someday.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: Second amendment.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: You should.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: Because that is the only thing that keeps the government afraid of its people.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: It is true.
46:03
SPEAKER_01: The second protects the first.
46:06
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing that's just amazing to me as well.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing that you gotta look at even if you want to look at Sharia law and Islam.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: There is no first amendment.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: You are you submit to Islam.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: There is no, oh, I want to tell what I think about Islam.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: Like you cannot insult, like they dude, these people freak out if you just do a cartoon character of Muhammad, for goodness sake.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: Like they go ballistic.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: Literally.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, they do.
46:30
SPEAKER_01: And it's so you tell me then, is that culture compatible with American culture and the constitution?
46:36
SPEAKER_01: It's not.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: If you're honest with yourself, it just isn't.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know what else to say to that.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: But it's again, I think it's good that we're finally having these conversations because I think a lot of times we haven't had these conversations because out of fear of oh, you're probably racist, you don't like foreigners, you don't want people to be accepted here.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: And it's not really it's that, it's the idea of if something works and something's great because of what it is, then why are you coming in here wanting to change the very thing that you claim to come here for because it's great?
47:09
SPEAKER_01: I I think that's just a fair question to ask.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: But those are some things that are just crazy.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you had any other thoughts, but there's some things, but I think back to the whole the ice stuff, the shootings, things like that.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: Where do you think this is gonna go?
47:24
SPEAKER_02: Because it seems to me you got what's his name, Waltz out there saying crazy stuff.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: I think what's the mayor's name?
47:32
SPEAKER_02: He's a little soy boy kind of guy.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh, I forget.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: There I just remember the one video I watched him where he was eating a Somali food and he was just totally fake and that he was loving it.
47:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, he looked like he'd want to throw up.
47:43
SPEAKER_02: That's a little drama drama.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: And then there's that one lady who's talking about bananas and rice for some crazy reason.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what that was about.
47:50
SPEAKER_00: Somali culture is very unique and because we eat bananas with rice and yeah, it's just a very interesting, distinct culture, like bananas and rice.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, and I'm like, and I'm like, okay, great.
48:06
SPEAKER_01: You discovered rice with bananas.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: That's different.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: I'll give you that.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:11
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't sound like she's contributing to this country.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: Sure, and I'm sure with her daycare center it's just going great.
48:18
SPEAKER_01: But to answer your question, I think what concerns me is that this is just becoming more and more they're just taking advantage of people's stupidity to not respect the law, to insert themselves in dangerous situations, and then they act shocked when something dangerous happens.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: So you're in and you're talking about not the immigrants, you're talking about like No, I'm just talking about the Americans that are fighting ice right now.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: I think useful idiots, yeah, as Lyndon would say.
48:43
SPEAKER_01: It's no different than the idea when I see these people when they sit in the middle of the road and then they act surprised when they get hit by a truck.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: My gosh.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: It's the always just that's always the classic thing whenever someone gets run over.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: I can't believe that guy drove on the road while we're sitting in the middle of the road.
49:00
SPEAKER_01: But the other thing too, like, I it's not about being like heartless to these people that are being stupid, but you don't know who's sitting in front of your vehicle, if they're a normal person or a whack job.
49:12
SPEAKER_01: And I'm sorry, we've seen plenty of videos where cars, when they do stop for these idiots, they surround the car, they start smashing the windows, they drag them out, like they beat them up.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: They beat them.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: And I'm sorry, like I don't blame anyone for not wanting to stop.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: There's no way I would want to stop, especially if I had if my own kids in the car or if my wife was in the car.
49:31
SPEAKER_01: It's like no way.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: No way.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: But I think what's gonna happen if this continues, though, is it's gonna I'm surprised there hasn't been more riots.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: Like the whole BLM thing that happened.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of surprised.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: I think I know.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: I'd like to know.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: I like to know.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think because to me, this is my opinion, and let me just get this out there.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm very anti-violence.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: All right.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know.
49:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: I think there's I think there's much better ways to get our our get our way in for justice and truth, but yeah, that's what I mean.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: I love it.
50:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think they they're pushing civil war.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: All right.
50:10
SPEAKER_02: The left is pushing violence because to me it seems like what they want is a is their they're oh my gosh, somebody was shot.
50:18
SPEAKER_02: This and that.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: They're saying all these crazy things because they're getting out of hand because they want Trump to clamp down on them.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: They're talking about like how like you're the insurrection act insurrection act or martial law.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they want Trump to do that because that gives them like a leg up.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: That's what, yeah, it gives them what they want, the narrative they want to be like, oh my gosh, Trump is the dictator we said he was.
50:41
SPEAKER_02: Now let's go riot.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: Now let's go really tear stuff down because look what they're doing.
50:45
SPEAKER_02: It's a police state, this and that.
50:46
SPEAKER_02: Now it's all contrived.
50:47
SPEAKER_02: It's all yeah, and I'm not sure.
50:49
SPEAKER_01: Whereas if they start rioting before, it's probably not gonna give them as much leverage, you think, because nothing's happened yet.
50:55
SPEAKER_01: Not yet.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: Or at least nothing major enough to happen.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: Now, as far as I I do plead ignorance on this because I know what martial law is, but what's the difference between martial law and the insurrection act?
51:06
SPEAKER_01: Are they the same thing or just similar or different?
51:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't know the specifics of that.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: All I know is that you see a lot of people on the right wanting Trump to enact it now, and uh he's not doing it.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: And the reason I again I don't know the specifics, but I assume it has it gives him the powers to clamp down on things legally in as if there was an insurrection.
51:27
SPEAKER_02: And the reason he's not doing it is I think it's because he knows they want to use it against him.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: I see.
51:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: And uh that's the scary thing, is like where is this gonna go?
51:36
SPEAKER_02: Because the left is rabid.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: It'll be very interesting for sure.
51:42
SPEAKER_01: All in time will tell, but it's as long as these continue and people just don't respect the law.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: And honestly, that's just what got us to this mess in the first place.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: If we had past leaders that cared about the law to begin with, we wouldn't have this big my immigration illegal immigration problem.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: We wouldn't have these ice raids happening to happen the way they do, as frequent as they do, and how aggressive as they are.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: It just wouldn't be the case right now.
52:07
SPEAKER_01: But this is a result of years and years, decades and decades, decades, and that even goes back to Republicans too, like to Bush and stuff, like where they turned a blind eye of enforcing the law, and then someone comes along and said, Okay, enough, and then everyone acts all shock.
52:22
SPEAKER_01: Wait, what the heck's happening?
52:24
SPEAKER_01: This is not what I signed up for.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: It's actually you did because it's that's his job.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: I think again, so we're probably getting towards the end here, but you gotta ask yourself, why was this permitted for so long?
52:39
SPEAKER_02: It's either because someone's getting money off of it or it's giving somebody power.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: I think that's what it is.
52:46
SPEAKER_02: Someone's getting power off of this.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: Think of it, it's not the idea, it's not so much.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how much we can point to the evidence because there has been some evidence coming out of illegals that have been on the voter rolls and stuff like that.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: But one thing that is uh obvious, even if you can't prove that illegals are actually flipping seats, but they are counted as a part of their population, whether legal or not.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: And there has been already examples of the people that ICE has detained and deported that has changed their population, that some of these blue states will lose seats.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's so they're gonna fight tooth and nail to stop.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Of course, whether or not there's like uh hard evidence that all these illegals are voting or not, that's debatable in a whole nother conversation.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:32
SPEAKER_01: But what we do know for factuals, though, it is based on population.
53:36
SPEAKER_01: So if you have it where let's say just 10% of your population is illegal aliens, that's a huge legout.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's how many like percentage, how many different, how many seats is that per state that you're able to add to your power roster where your voting power increases?
53:54
SPEAKER_01: Scary.
53:54
SPEAKER_02: Very scary.
53:55
SPEAKER_01: And that's I think that's a fair question to ask across the board, no matter what.
53:59
SPEAKER_01: Because I would not be surprised if there's even some like Republican districts that are soft on immigration that just I don't think like our governor, Governor Cox is strong on immigration.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: He did this whole speech about like he's not using the like he's using the typical language of manipulation, calling them migrants when they're not.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're valuable parts to our society, and blah blah blah.
54:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't really care.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: I'm just past the point of this bleeding heart mentality because I'm going through immigration myself with my fiance.
54:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm going through the hard labor of it.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: We are currently where we're podcasting right now, like with my friends here, like his wife is an immigrant and stuff, they've gone through the hard process, just like your mom did.
54:38
SPEAKER_01: And so it's like when people like that are not respected as well, you're basically spitting in their face that they've done all this work, all this money to become an American citizen because they wanted to do it the legal way.
54:51
SPEAKER_01: And you're basically, like in my opinion, if I was any immigrant that in the last 10 years became an American citizen, I'd be doing class action lawsuits against the government.
55:01
SPEAKER_01: Say, I want my money back, and I want basically back pay pretty much for all the amount of time it's taken me to become an American citizen.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: Reparations, yeah.
55:10
SPEAKER_01: And maybe not representative, but just damages because you can't have it where you have it two ways.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: You can't give the same rules to one group of people and then punish those that basically went about it the right way, and then just let everyone else through the back door thinking you're being charitable.
55:27
SPEAKER_01: You're not, you're basically insulting all those people that have come before to work hard to come to this country because it's expensive, it takes a lot of time, a lot of headache.
55:36
SPEAKER_01: You have to hire lawyers at a lot of times, fill out the proper paperwork.
55:40
SPEAKER_01: And to me, that's un American because then what you're saying is basically, yeah, we don't really stand for anything, we're just an open door, anyone can come in.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: And we basically, I'm sorry, I don't want America to become a crackhouse.
55:52
SPEAKER_01: People just coming in and out of the driveway as they please, throwing up on the lawn.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: I just don't want it.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: And and no country in the world wants that.
56:01
SPEAKER_01: No, maybe Somalia.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: But we won't talk about that.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: This is another episode about like inbreeding and stuff and their 67 number of their average IQ.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
56:12
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to look into that one.
56:13
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yes, it'd be great.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: We are out of time.
56:17
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56:18
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56:20
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56:21
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56:22
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56:23
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56:29
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56:40
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