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The Late Debate | 29 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome wait.
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  Speaker 2: Babe, Well, good evening and thanks for your company. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Stauer and Joe Hildebrand coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: They say there's only one Don Bradman, but maybe they're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there's a second. We'll show you the cricketer fourteen
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  Speaker 2: years old who has absolutely stunned the sporting world. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: when we get to the papers, ambulance Victoria forced to
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  Speaker 2: admit they held not one but two funerals in violation
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  Speaker 2: of pandemic rules, and the Labor Party embroiled in a
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  Speaker 2: scandal over Chinese campaign volunteers. We'll get to all of
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  Speaker 2: that shortly, but first, as you just saw on Paul
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  Speaker 2: Murray Live, we had the alternative Prime Minister right here
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  Speaker 2: in the studio answering questions from people all around the country.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about everything from taxes to regional development and
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  Speaker 2: the woke virus, and I got to ask Joe and Liz,
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  Speaker 2: where has this Peter Dutton bean. He came across as strong,
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  Speaker 2: he came across as personable, He came across as relaxed,
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  Speaker 2: sincere and a person who genuinely is concerned about making
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  Speaker 2: Australian lives better. You just have to wonder whether perhaps
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  Speaker 2: the media haven't given him a platform such as he
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  Speaker 2: got tonight where he can just relax be himself. He's
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  Speaker 2: not avoiding and dodging gotcha questions, He's just talking to
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  Speaker 2: ordinary Australians about what he plans to do to make
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  Speaker 2: the country better. My favorite part, Joe, of the interview
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  Speaker 2: tonight was where Peter Dutton was asked about domestic violence,
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  Speaker 2: and of course he talked about his experience as a
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  Speaker 2: police officer in Queensland and I've got to say it's
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  Speaker 2: so nice and refreshing to hear from a politician with
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  Speaker 2: what do they call it, liz lived experience, someone who
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been in politics his whole life, but has been
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  Speaker 2: out in the community doing the sorts of things, facing
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  Speaker 2: the sorts of things, grappling with the sorts of issues
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  Speaker 2: that normal people deal with. And the way he answered
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  Speaker 2: that with incredible empathy, compassion, a man who understands normal
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  Speaker 2: people because prior to going to politics he was one.
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  Speaker 3: He had a life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh we love that in our politicians, and sadly it
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  Speaker 4: is a rarity when you get career politicians like Albow.
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  Speaker 3: Has he ever had a job outside of politics.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, His job is politics, Liz, he lives.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's the best ancey, you did work for a year.
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  Speaker 4: Inc's a short answer is no, he hasn't.
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  Speaker 3: That's all he's ever done.
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  Speaker 4: But you're quite right, it's refreshing to hear from an
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  Speaker 4: alternative prime minister who, prior to that, like you say,
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  Speaker 4: as a cop, has seen people from all walks of life,
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  Speaker 4: in all kinds of different situations than had to deal
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  Speaker 4: with them there on what we call the front lines
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  Speaker 4: here in Australia, on a daily basis, year in and
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  Speaker 4: year out. It was incredibly refreshing. You ask, where has
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  Speaker 4: this guy been the length of the election campaign? I'd
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  Speaker 4: say all politicians play to the crowd that they're addressing,
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  Speaker 4: and we all we all know that you guys sitting
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  Speaker 4: at home, you're a.
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  Speaker 3: Friendly crowd when it comes to the Libs. Whereas he
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  Speaker 3: has been under a lot of attack this election.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you've got this alban Ezy government who's determined
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  Speaker 4: not to be the first one term government since the
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  Speaker 4: nineteen thirties. I don't believe that was ever going to happen,
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  Speaker 4: and I do believe that we will see a labor
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  Speaker 4: win on Saturday. But these guys have been the underdogs
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  Speaker 4: all along, and I think you've got to play your
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  Speaker 4: cards accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I thought it was very lovely and warm and intimate,
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  Speaker 5: and it's good to see politicians be human, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't think we see enough. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 5: of us in the media we say, oh, you're two dimensional,
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  Speaker 5: you're just doing the talking points, and then the minute
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  Speaker 5: a politician actually starts to speak and talk as a
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  Speaker 5: human being, we jump on anything that they say that
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  Speaker 5: deviates from the norm and then we beat them about
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  Speaker 5: the head for it. So I think that is an
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  Speaker 5: unfortunate thing. And it's good to see Peter Dutton sort
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  Speaker 5: of have that kind of just conversational, kind of fireside
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  Speaker 5: chat kind of tone. I think he's I met Peter
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  Speaker 5: Dutton a number of times informal settings, social settings.
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  Speaker 1: I've always thought it was a really nice, decent man.
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  Speaker 5: I've never liked the demonised Dutton campaign, but it has
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  Speaker 5: been incredibly effective and I think that and I think
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  Speaker 5: there's also been circumstances sort of beyond his control. But he,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he for a while it looked like being
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  Speaker 5: Trump like was a real election winner, and it was
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  Speaker 5: until it wasn't, and that's hurt him and the policy
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  Speaker 5: the policy stuff I think has also really hurt him,
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  Speaker 5: the fact that things like the working from home debate
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  Speaker 5: got away from him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could have.
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  Speaker 5: It could have either perhaps been kept within its rails
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  Speaker 5: better if it had have been out there percolating in
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  Speaker 5: the community for longer so they understood what it was,
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  Speaker 5: or it should have been killed off a long long
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  Speaker 5: time ago, you know, at first sight, instead of instead
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  Speaker 5: of halfway through the campaign.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's hard to know what, if anything turn.
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  Speaker 5: I mean half the nation, almost a third at least,
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  Speaker 5: have already voted, and so it's very hard to know
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  Speaker 5: what could win it from here.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, he's a good guy. Good guys are
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  Speaker 1: there in politics.
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  Speaker 2: It was a great interview and well done to not
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  Speaker 2: just Paul Murray for hosting that, but to well over
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  Speaker 2: twenty Sky News viewers who sent in really good questions.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the last time the Coalition had great momentum
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  Speaker 2: was really back in October twenty twenty three, when they
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  Speaker 2: defeated the Voice referendum. Australians overwhelmingly rejected that you remember
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  Speaker 2: about sixty percent voting no. And at that point, all
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  Speaker 2: the momentum, all the leadership was with Peter Dutton, ironically enough,
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  Speaker 2: addressing a cultural issue. So now we're in the last
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  Speaker 2: week of the election campaign and a cultural issue, specifically
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  Speaker 2: Welcome the Country is back center stage, courtesy of those
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  Speaker 2: people who booed the Welcome the Country at Melbourne's an
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  Speaker 2: Zac Day service last week. Now, those who booed were
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  Speaker 2: apparently neo Nazis, but there are many people who didn't boo,
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  Speaker 2: but yet share the same sentiments that Welcome to Country
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  Speaker 2: is overdone and we have far too much of it,
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  Speaker 2: not least among those people former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
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  Speaker 6: And it's become, if you're, like an exercise in virtue signaling.
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  Speaker 6: It's become a badge of political correctness. It's become a
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  Speaker 6: political statement, a bit like wearing masks became a political
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  Speaker 6: statement during the pandemic. If you weren't an enthusiast for masks,
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  Speaker 6: you weren't taking the pandemic seriously enough.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you're wondering, I'm not sure, maybe it's not overdone,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's okay. I mean if you were watching Master
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  Speaker 2: Chef last night, can you believe it? They had an
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  Speaker 2: acknowledgment of country at the beginning of a reality TV
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  Speaker 2: cooking show.
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  Speaker 7: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners of the land
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  Speaker 7: upon which this competition takes place and pay our respects
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  Speaker 7: to the elder's past and present. This is al that
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  Speaker 7: has always been rich in food and culture.
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  Speaker 2: At this rate, next year they'll be a welcome to
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  Speaker 2: country before Married at First Sight begins. Liz Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely right. This thing is way overdone. Could this
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  Speaker 2: help Peter Dutton that it's suddenly front and center headline
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  Speaker 2: news in the last week of the campaign? This is
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  Speaker 2: when he was strongest, when he was rejecting division and
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  Speaker 2: separating Australians by race.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But the Libs seem to have left this alone since
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  Speaker 4: the referendum was one in their favor. They haven't been
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  Speaker 4: beating that drum and I think that's probably a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: They more just say as we do.
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  Speaker 4: The people of Australia have spoken, and as you know,
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  Speaker 4: I have said many times on this show. If you're
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  Speaker 4: a regular watcher, when you hear a welcome to country.
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  Speaker 3: Boom, I've said I do it all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I do it in packed theaters, I do it on
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  Speaker 4: packed planes, because that is one way for the average
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  Speaker 4: person like myself to push back on what Tony Abbott
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  Speaker 4: is rightly called this work virtue signaling.
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  Speaker 3: The elites want to shove it down our throats.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what you're sad at these days. It
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  Speaker 4: could be an internal office meeting and you will be
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  Speaker 4: greeted with a welcome to country. You've got to let
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  Speaker 4: your disapproval be known. And it wasn't just Nazis who
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  Speaker 4: booed on that day, And I do believe that this
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  Speaker 4: coming back into light honor Anzac Day is very poignant
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  Speaker 4: because of all the days and of all the ceremonies,
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  Speaker 4: it is the most disgustingly inappropriate thing to be doing
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  Speaker 4: at these ceremonies. So I'm with the booers on this one,
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  Speaker 4: not the Nazis obviously, but everybody else. And they were
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  Speaker 4: large in number who booed that day, because it is
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  Speaker 4: a slap in the face of our diggers who did
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  Speaker 4: not fight for a country that they were a guest
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  Speaker 4: of so that we could all be guests in the
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  Speaker 4: succeeding decades. For crying out loud. But anyway, Abbit's totally right.
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  Speaker 4: It is empty virtue signaling. As we've said, ad nauseum.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what are you going to do? Give the
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  Speaker 3: land back? No? No, but we'll give you guys a
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  Speaker 3: shout out. That's really all that is, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: And the more people who simply acknowledge that, whether it's
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  Speaker 4: booing or whatever you choose to do, the better, because
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  Speaker 4: it's only until Aussie stand up and say we said no,
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  Speaker 4: cut this junk.
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  Speaker 3: Out, nothing's going to happen. It'll continue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think booing at an ANZAC Day dawn service is
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  Speaker 5: absolutely disgraceful and far.
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  Speaker 3: More described they were booming that was.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, you do, not do that.
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  Speaker 5: It's incredibly disresgret trusting behavior.
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  Speaker 1: And if the idea, the idea that.
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  Speaker 3: You would disgrace and the idea that discussing.
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  Speaker 5: The idea and it was an organized protest, the crowd
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  Speaker 5: didn't spontaneously start booing, and the idea that you care
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  Speaker 5: so much about the sanctity of the dawn service that
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  Speaker 5: you would actually disrupt it and interrupt it with booze.
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  Speaker 5: I mean we are talking about we are talking about
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  Speaker 5: to do a welcome we're talking about. That is that
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  Speaker 5: is that is what the organizers decided. That is what
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  Speaker 5: the organizers who is the RSL and the representatives of
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  Speaker 5: the veteran community.
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  Speaker 1: That was a decision that they made and it was
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  Speaker 1: up to them.
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  Speaker 5: If people don't like it, they can complain, they can
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  Speaker 5: write a letter, they can talk to the media, they
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  Speaker 5: can have discussions like we do here, they can go
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  Speaker 5: on social media. But taboo, a commemoration of the war
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  Speaker 5: dead is a disgusting not what they were doing. That
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  Speaker 5: That is what the Dawn Service is. The Dawn Service
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  Speaker 5: is a commemoration. It is a sacred right that commemorates
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  Speaker 5: those who gave their lives.
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  Speaker 1: For a service of Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Well, until we can exhume their bodies and do a
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  Speaker 5: straw poll of them, I think we should actually pay
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  Speaker 5: respect to the services that are there to commemorate and
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  Speaker 5: if people if people have I don't know if you
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  Speaker 5: can speak on behalf of the thousands of people who
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  Speaker 5: have died for Australia. But if people want to voice
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  Speaker 5: their opinions about that, if they want to say whatever
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  Speaker 5: they want to say, I have no problem with that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't disagree with a lot of what Tony Abott
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  Speaker 5: and others have said about the welcome to country and
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  Speaker 5: the acknowledgment of country, which are two different things that
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  Speaker 5: people seem to get confused and use interchangeably. But whatever,
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  Speaker 5: I think they both can be overused. But to do
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  Speaker 5: what was done at that dawn service is a disgraceful, UnAustralian,
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  Speaker 5: despicable act.
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  Speaker 2: Agree to disagree that there's two things here, isn't there
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  Speaker 2: There's whether or not it should be done at a
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  Speaker 2: ANZAC day service. That is the welcome to country, and
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  Speaker 2: I think most people would say it wasn't appropriate, certainly
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  Speaker 2: from all the social media and comments I've read.
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  Speaker 3: But then how do.
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  Speaker 2: You protest it and what's the most appropriate way. Richard
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  Speaker 2: Marles said it was important to recognize the important contribution
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  Speaker 2: Indigenous people had made to the Australian military and that's
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  Speaker 2: why it was appropriate. But I did some research and
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  Speaker 2: found you know, there are a thousand Indigenous Australians who
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  Speaker 2: fought in World War One. There were two hundred Australian
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  Speaker 2: Chinese people who fought in World War One, but they
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  Speaker 2: weren't acknowledged. In the Second World War, you had about
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  Speaker 2: three thousand Indigenous people fighting for Australia. But you had
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  Speaker 2: two and a half thousand Greek Australians fighting for Australia.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't acknowledged. So that's the problem, not Indigenous that's
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  Speaker 2: providing our war dead by race. Are you going to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge everybody or only one grouping one group? Are you
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  Speaker 2: really surprised people are upset? The appropriate way to protest that,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different argument.
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  Speaker 4: Liz Indeed, well Till MP Sophie Scomps has sunk to
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  Speaker 4: a new low shilling for votes. She had the audacity
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  Speaker 4: to use the example of manly rugby player Keith Titmus's
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  Speaker 4: very unfortunate, very shock and sudden death earlier this year.
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  Speaker 4: She's decided to link that to climate change in an
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  Speaker 4: effort to shill for votes, which because of course that's
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  Speaker 4: all the Tills really stand for. Their biggest backer is
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  Speaker 4: climate two hundred, so of course that is one issue
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  Speaker 4: that they're very strong on.
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  Speaker 3: Here she was speaking to some would be voters.
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  Speaker 4: So the death of that young man and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: saying the death of that young man, the rugby league
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  Speaker 4: player when it.
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  Speaker 3: Was thirty three degree.
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  Speaker 6: Very humid day died from heat stress after training session.
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  Speaker 4: That type of legal humidity is something that the medical
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  Speaker 4: fraternity is getting more and more concerned about.
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  Speaker 3: You can survive, apparently, the human body can survive if
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  Speaker 3: it's dry.
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  Speaker 4: Heat up to fifty four degrees celsius is pretty hot, but.
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  Speaker 7: With high humidity that level comes down to kind of
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  Speaker 7: thirty three, thirty even thirty one degrees, So it's something
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  Speaker 7: to consider.
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  Speaker 3: At least get your facts raight, lady.
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  Speaker 4: It was just twenty five degrees in November twenty twenty
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  Speaker 4: when Keith Titmas, twenty years of age see Eagles training session,
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  Speaker 4: lost his life.
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  Speaker 3: But how low can you go?
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  Speaker 4: And naturally Keith's mother has spoken about this. She said,
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  Speaker 4: I'm disappointed that doctor Scomps is using my son's name
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  Speaker 4: to try and gain political political points when all she
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  Speaker 4: needed to do was read Derek Lee's findings. She's referring
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  Speaker 4: to the findings regarding her son's passing, which mention nothing
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  Speaker 4: about climate change, Like I say, amazing, lo can you
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  Speaker 4: sink to be like? This is why you should vote
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  Speaker 4: for me. We are the party of climate change alarmism.
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  Speaker 4: And this is how bad it's getting now. Twenty year
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  Speaker 4: olds are dropping dead on sporting.
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  Speaker 1: But she's a doctor. She's a doctor, don't you know.
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  Speaker 2: Since when did climate catastrophists care about facts? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we had the cyclone in Queensland recently and Adam Bant
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  Speaker 2: was warning, this is terrible. This is another reason why
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  Speaker 2: we need to quit fossil fuels. All the evidence says
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  Speaker 2: that cyclones are becoming less frequent, not more frequent, and
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: we could cite example after example after example of climate
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  Speaker 2: catastrophists exaggerating the situation or just outright lying. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: when don't lie.
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  Speaker 1: And doctors don't lie. And she's a doctor, don't you
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  Speaker 1: know they're all doctors. All the deals are doctors for this.
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  Speaker 2: When a spokesperson for the Teal Doctor addressed what she
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  Speaker 2: had said, the spokesperson didn't back down at all. The
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  Speaker 2: spokesperson said, well, you know, we're desperately sad for the
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  Speaker 2: tipmus family, but but Sophie takes very seriously the threat
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  Speaker 2: of lethal humidity. So just repeated the whole line all
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  Speaker 2: over again. This is typical, though, of climate catastrophists who
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  Speaker 2: aren't afraid to use people's pain to push their own agenda.
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  Speaker 2: As I said, in Queensland, when cyclone Alfred occurred. I
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  Speaker 2: remember Adam Bant firing off a tweets saying my thoughts
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  Speaker 2: with the people of Queensland at this time, and then
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: he went on for another couple of tweets to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this is why we need to fight climate change,
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  Speaker 2: get rid of fossil fuels, vote out the Dutton government.
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  Speaker 2: His thoughts were with the people of Queensland for a millisecond,
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  Speaker 2: and then the rest of his thoughts were about how
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  Speaker 2: he could leverage this for political advantage.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly right, And this is the real issue here. It's
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  Speaker 5: not whether you know people are right or wrong or
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  Speaker 5: where the facts are. We can have all those arguments,
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  Speaker 5: we can have those debates, brash him out here every night.
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  Speaker 5: The question is how absolutely cooked do you have to
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  Speaker 5: be to think that you can just pull out the
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  Speaker 5: example of another mother's dead son to try to score
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  Speaker 5: a political touchdown. And again not to hark on it,
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  Speaker 5: but you know, it's the same as my argument about
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  Speaker 5: violating the dawn service. Whatever your political position and let
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  Speaker 5: a thousand flowers bloom, surely some things are off limits.
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  Speaker 5: And I would dare say that rather than lethal humidity,
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  Speaker 5: that is the problem here. I think doctor Scott's is
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  Speaker 5: suffering from some lethal stupidity, because anyone who could not
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  Speaker 5: just see that that raw death of that beautiful young
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  Speaker 5: man is a giant red flag that you shouldn't even touch,
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  Speaker 5: even if you could get your facts straight, let alone
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  Speaker 5: if you can't that, I mean, that is the definition
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  Speaker 5: of a fanatic. That is the definition of an extremist.
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  Speaker 5: It is someone for whom the cause is so absolute
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  Speaker 5: and so great that all these other considerations, matters of
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  Speaker 5: life and death don't actually occur to you. So and again,
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  Speaker 5: that is what I think is wrong with politics these days.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but she's a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: She is a doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not forget that, as is doctor Monique Ryan, who
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  Speaker 2: her staff have been told to make sure people know that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we've got good news and bad news from Canada. The
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  Speaker 2: good news is the Liberals have won the Canadian election.
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  Speaker 2: The bad news is they're the wrong kind of Liberals
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: in Canada. Of course, the Liberal Party is the Progressive
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Party and they have won the election which they were
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: not expected to win in January. Indeed, in January it
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: was the Conservative Party who were on track for a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: landslide win. But then a couple of things happened Donald
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Trump put twenty five percent tariffs on Canada and started
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: joking about them becoming the fifty first state of the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: United States. Then Justin Trudeau resigned. Mark Carney took over
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and made what would have been a referendum on Justin
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Trudeau into a scare campaign about Donald Trump having won
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the election. He's show he's not prepared to let up
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: on that scare campaign. He is his victory speech.
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: As I've been warning for months, America wants our land,
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: our resources, our water, our country never But these are
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: not These are not idle threats. President Trump is trying
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: to break us so that America can own us. That
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: will never that will never ever happen.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Now, some interesting things in Canada, and I wonder if
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: we can extrapolate to what might happen here in Australia
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: next Saturday. The Conservative leader certainly was campaigning on things
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: like cost of living and other issues like that which
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you would have expected to resonate, but then he was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: cast as a mini Trump and certainly seems to have
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: suffered from that stereotyping. Seven point three million Canadians voted early.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: We're seeing a similar trend here in Australia. As well
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of as Peter Dutton being cast as a person aping
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump by the Labor Party. F the Albanese in
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: his speech the other day spoke repeatedly about the Labor
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Party do things the Australian way.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It's our way.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: We're going to use our people and our strategies, which
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: clearly was an inference that Peter Dutton and the coalition
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: are copying Donald Trump, who of course is the devil,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: therefore don't vote for him. Clearly that association with Donald
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Trump has absolutely destroyed the Conservative campaign in Canada.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But are there any conclusions we can draw about what
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: might happen here?
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if we can extrapolate it this far. Canada,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: obviously being their closest neighbor and a massive ally, simply
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: did not take well to Trump teasing about next in Canada,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: and certainly in a country like Canada where seventy five
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: percent of their exports.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Go to the US.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: If a president of the United States of America is
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: talking about tariffs the way Trump has been doing, you've
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: got a mass amount of Canadians who are immediately offside.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Like us, They've been suffering through a cost of living
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: crisis for a long time now, so anything like that
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: that's going to make their lives that much harder on
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: that greater scale. I hate to say it, but Trump
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: really handed it to the Liberals in Canada this time round.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: They've just won their fourth straight term in power. Once
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: True Door resigned, we were all rejoicing in the streets,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: being like, finally this is the Conservatives time to rise
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: in Canada, and we all loved Pierre Polivier, which who
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: also copped a lot of Oh, is very trumpy, he
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: all his trump isms. People were loving him for that
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: until they weren't. The poor guys actually lost his own seat,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: as was confirmed just to couple of hours ago. So
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: this has turned into, almost overnight a landslide in the
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: opposite direction of what was expected. Finally seeing the end
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: of Justin Trudeau, who we know was a World Economic
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Forum Darling. Hate to tell you, you've got exactly the same
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: thing in Mark Carney a couple of months ago. Keep
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: in mind, this guy's not an MP, he's never held
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: political office. He is a banker and will also be
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: one hundred and ten thousand percent economic Forum Darling. Canada
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: has voted for more of the same under this guy.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: But they were able to artfully weaponize these trumpisms coming
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: out of the US in their favor and rally this
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: nationalist vibe in Canada.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: To keep their seat of power. It's just incredible.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Can we say, Joe that companies making leftists great again?
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Absolutely? Is absolutely is. And look, listen, you come on, Karne.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: You said you like people who had careers outside of politics,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Well they come in. He's the old outsider like but
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: this is exactly the thing again. You talk about harnessing nationalism,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Well that's exactly what Trump has done. And the nationalism
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: that he's harnessed in America has come at the expense
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: of every single other country on the planet. Literally, he's
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: not just talking about tariffs, he's implementing them. And this
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: is the price that every other populist conservative movement around
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: the around the world must pay. And you know, Andrew
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Bolt earlier tonight was absolutely correct when he said Trump
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: is an enemy of conservatism the world over. Trump is
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: an absolute millstone around the neck of conservatives in Canada.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: And everything is said is absolutely correct, and it's exactly
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: what is happening here. Trump has been a millstone around
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Peter Dutton's neck. He has become toxic, not because he's
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: done things that he said he wouldn't do, but because
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: he's done actually what he said he would do. And
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I think a lot of people didn't expect him to.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: And that's that's you know, that's all she writes, swings
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: and round about.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Clearly Labor have got poling saying that it will resonate
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: with Australian voters, labeling yeah, certainly Trump because they're doing it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: But again they're not the ones who are coming up
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: with that. Voters, particularly female voters in focus groups. Absolutely
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: And I don't want to be cruel because I do
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: not think that Peter Dutton is a bad man. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: they hate him. They hate him, and they think that
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: he is, you know, a mini Trump, or he is
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: Trump like. And I was just talking to a friend
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: in the party. Apparently something like two thirds of women
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: over the age of thirty just find Dutton and Trump
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: an absolute no go zone, an absolute turn off. They're
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: not hugely pro Albanezi, but that is just absolute no guy.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: They won't all vote later, a lot of them will
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: vote independent. Now you think about the sheer number of people.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: When you think we make up half the population, every
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: single one over the age of thirty five of them
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: two thirds. That's an instant right that gives you an
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: indication of sky. And it's not all bad news because
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: young men are more likely to come to one nation
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: or to Peter Dutton, so that offsets it, but not
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: in the same way. And that Canadian result tells you
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: everything you need to know.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Indeed, we're to Wales now.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: We're an eighteen eighty church went up in flames last week.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: A fourteen year old and a fifteen year old have
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: been arrested charges of arson. Obviously everyone's wondering why this
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: ancient church has gone up in flames in a fire
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: in Port Talbot. So it's not even like a big landmark.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: This is a historical church.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: That has been there, like I say, since eighteen eighty.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: This is something we don't talk about enough because church
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: churches across the Western world are copying all kinds of attacks.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: In France alone since twenty and nineteen, eight hundred and
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: fifty churches have suffered these attacks, not always arson, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: they have been under attack.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: For the last five years.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Like you wouldn't believe, and it never seems to make
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the news. We all know if this was a mosque,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: if this was a synagogue, it would be all over
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the news, but because they're Christian churches, nobody really seems
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: to mind.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: It's the same with persecution of.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Christians all around the world. We know that Christians are
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: being killed in Syria, we know in Ethiopia over the
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: last fifteen years, over fifty thousand Nigeria, sorry, over fifty
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: thousand Christians have been killed. In February this year, seventy
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Christians were found beheaded in their church in the Congo.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I could go on for an hour without drawing breath,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: but these things never make the news. And I want
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: to know why, as a Christian living in a country
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: here in Australia where the last census says that forty
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: four percent of our population still claims the Christian faith,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: whether that's Christian, whether that's Catholic, forty four percent of
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: us still claim the Christian faith, why does media seem
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: to think that Christians being attacked throughout the Western world,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: particularly in Europe, particularly in the UK, and certainly I mean,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: don't even start talking about China, et cetera. And so
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: on Christians being locked up, Christians being killed, Christians being tortured,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: those who follow the right Christian websites, because we've had
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: to start our own type of media to stay on
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: top of these things, because the world media does not
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: give a rip if it's the Christian faith, it's not
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: even a blip on the radar.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Why do you think that is mac You.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Raise a really good point, and you know there's persecution
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of Christians in places like Africa, is certainly in the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Middle East, but this is a relatively new phenomena where
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: we've got churches under attack in the Western world, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: everyone prepared pretends not to notice it at all. The
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: French intelligence services said that in twenty twenty four the
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: number of churches and cathedrals that were burned increased by
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: thirty percent. That's not just a little blip. That's a
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: lot of electoral fault. That's not things that could have
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: been construed as accidental. These were confirmed arson attacks. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of reasons why this is
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: being ignored. Because if you are going to confront this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: very inconvenient truth, you're going to have to admit that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the French, in particular are failing to protect their own
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: heritage and their own traditions. Whether you're a Christian or not,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: you have to admit French is a Christian nation or
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: typically has been, so much of their tradition and heritage
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: from the Christian faith they're not protecting. A Second, you've
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: got to confront the questioners to who is responsible for this,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and that's probably a question that many of us would
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: not like to really contemplate. And third, and maybe this
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is the biggest factor, to admit you've got churches under attack.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You've got to discard the very popular progressive narrative that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Christianity is an oppressor religion and admit that actually Christians
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: are being persecuted worldwide, including in the West. You know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: of all the anti religious crimes that have been committed
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: in France right now, this is according to French intelligence services,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: sixty two percent of them are against Jews, thirty one
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: percent of them against Christians, seven percent against Muslims. And
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: yet how often do you hear about Islamophobia, which of
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: course we would deplore. But Islamophobia is the least common
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: form of persecution regarding religious people in France. Christian Aphobia
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is far more prevalent, hardly ever spoken of it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disgraceful obviously.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: And to see any of these beautiful old buildings go
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: up as just works of incredibly beauty and art in themselves,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: regardless of their importance to people of faith, is just
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: absolutely disgraceful. When we do, we have to have a
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: really really frank talk about this, and we also have
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: to get rid of that ridiculous kind of work narrative
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: that Christianity is somehow inherently evil, but all the other
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: religions are somehow inherently.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Good, and that they're No.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I don't remember, don't remember leading a holy war against anyone?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Have you? Have you? No, I don't think I have anyway.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Well, another day.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I was going to say, just in the world's
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: most comfortable segue, let's go from Christianity to sex toy smugglers,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: because an Iranian asylum seeker who argued that he could
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: not be deported because he was quote a sex toy smuggler,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: has won his legal battle to remain in Britain. The
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: unnamed man applied for refugee status in the UK, saying
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: that the authorities in his home country looked on his
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: illicit business activities.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Adversely, are you telling me? Are you telling me now? Again?
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: This is where my religious plurality really hits reality, because
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: this is quite a shock to me, as someone who
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: embraces all world religions. I never, for the life of me,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: would have thought that Iran, the great sheait inheritor of
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: the Persian tradition under the Ayatollah KHMANI, would be in
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: any way in tolerance. I mean, this is a nation
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: that almost lets some women drive cars with their heads uncovered.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Not yet, but we're getting there.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: And yet you are trying to suggest, by placing this
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: story under my nose, that they look unkindly on sex
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: toy smugglers. Well, that's not that progressive Iran, I know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure who we should make fun of, the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Iranians or the British for allowing asylum seekers like this
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: to remain in the country. His argument was, I can't
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: go back to Iran because I was doing illegal things.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like much of an argument to be
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: allowed to remain in Britain. And so that was of
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: course rejected by the first court. He appealed, and then
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the second court found that he couldn't be deported not
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: because he was selling sex toys in Iran, but because
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: since arriving in Britain, he had posted on Facebook comments
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: that were against the Iranian regime and if he was
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to return, he would be persecuted for those comments. So
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: it seems to be that his first argument was I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: can't go back to Iran because I was doing illegal things.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: His secument argument was I'm doing illegal things now, so
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I can't go back to Iran. Basically, asylum seekers in
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the UK seemed to just come up with one absurd
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: idea after another until eventually they find a judge who
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: will say, jackpot, you can stay.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: And this is not the.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: First instance of ridiculous decisions from the British judiciary regarding
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: asylum seekers. You remember, Liz, just a few weeks ago
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: we spoke about an Albanian man who was to be deported.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: He was found guilty of involvement in a fraud worth
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: about three hundred thousand pounds, but he wasn't deported because
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the court ruled that will be unfair to his ten
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: year old son, who didn't like chicken nuggets in Albania
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: much preferred them in the UK, and so Dad was
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: allowed to stay.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine being the British taxpayer being like, yes,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: this is what my money is paying for. Not only
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: are they tying our courts up, but they get to
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: stay here on our taxpayer pound with such ridiculous and anyone,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: anyone from anywhere in the world can be watching this
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: case and be like, great, So if I just make
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: it to the UK and then tweet things or right
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: things on my social media criticizing whatever country I just
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: came from, it's as.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Easy as that.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's even better.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: That's all I have to do is smuggle some sex
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: toys and I'm home and hosed.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: What we are missing got him to say.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: What we are.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: What we are missing, though, is how he smuggled his
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: sex toys, because that sounds uncomfortable to me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: That is a detail we don't know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes ignorance really is liss. Let's go
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to Europe or stay in Europe rather where Spain has
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: just to experience the biggest blackout in European history. It
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: didn't just affect tens of millions of people in Spain,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: but also people in Portugal and France. When the Powell
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: went off, flights were grounded trains.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Just stopped mid track.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Traffic was gridlocked because traffic lights stopped working, mobile phone
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: networks didn't work. There were two hundred and eighty six
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: rescues of people in elevators, just absolute chaos and pandemonium. Now,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: at first people thought maybe this is a cyber attack.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: There's a great Netflix series on at the moment called
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Zero Day, starring Robert de Niro, that depicts a cyber
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: attack that shuts down New York City's electricity grid. But
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: experts are saying, no, no, it wasn't a cyber attack. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: was actually a result of Spain's commitment to net zero.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: On the day of the blackout, sixty four percent of
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: their power was coming from renewables, fifty three percent solar,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: eleven percent wind, and according to experts, the problem with
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: renewable power is it's unstable, and that instability is likely
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to collapse the grid. They're saying that's probably the reason
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the lights went out. So I would just like to say,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: on behalf of everyone in Australia, thank you to the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good people of Spain who have demonstrated in real time the.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Folly of net zero.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I hope our government learns from this, and Lizi's shaking
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: your head. You don't think any lessons will be learned.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think they will.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: They'll just be like, we'll do it better, like every
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: good socialist.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Socialism just hasn't been tried properly.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, but we'll our green energy,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: our renewables are better. What makes this story funny, I'm
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: sorry all the Spaniards, is that six days ago Spanish
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: media was celebrating a ginormous milestone, and that was for
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the first time during a working day, Spain was running
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: on one hundred percent renewable energy.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Just the question of the day.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: It was one hundred percent and they were so proud
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: That was less than a week ago.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Until twelve thirty five pm Local time yesterday.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing's working.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I hope you're all carrying some cash, guys, because everything came.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: To a standstill just like that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Everyone was in Well, if there's some words of hope
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: that I could give the good citizens of Spain and Portugal.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: We saw the footage of the train passengers having to
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: get out and walk. A few years ago, same thing
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: happened in Sydney and all the passengers on a train
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: had to get out and walk, which is very but
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: the good news is they got to their destination faster.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And of course the good news is the British government
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: are going to make sure that climate change is fixed.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: They're going to simply block out the sun. As we
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: talked about last week, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers, including Victorian ambulance staff forced to admit
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: they broke COVID pandemic rules not once, but twice.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: That's coming up in just a moment.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. Let's take a look at
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: what's making headlines tomorrow. We'll start with the front page
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  Speaker 2: of the Herald's Sun, which tomorrow is a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: front page. They've got not one, but three incredible stories.
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  Speaker 2: The main splash, of course, mushroom bombshell Aaron Patterson's three
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  Speaker 2: charges of attempting to kill her husband dropped or read
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  Speaker 2: you the introduction to that story. It says three charges
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  Speaker 2: alleging deadly mushroom cook Aaron Patterson tried to murder her
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  Speaker 2: estranged husband Simon have been dropped in a major development
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  Speaker 2: on the first day of her highly anticipated trial. Mss
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  Speaker 2: Patterson fifty is still facing triple murder charges and one
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  Speaker 2: attempted murder charge following a twenty twenty three lunch at
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  Speaker 2: her leon Gatha home where she served beef wellington to guests,
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  Speaker 2: three of whom subsequently died from death cap poisoning. That's
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  Speaker 2: the lead story in Tomorrow's Herald Son a couple of
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  Speaker 2: other really interesting stories that are sure to generate.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of talk. Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Second illegal Funeral reads the headline, Ambulance Victoria has been
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  Speaker 2: forced to confess to a second legal funeral in which
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  Speaker 2: senior executives blatantly breached COVID rules at the height of
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  Speaker 2: the pandemic. Days after The Herald's Sun revealed an initial
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  Speaker 2: sanctioned send off, it can now be revealed a second
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  Speaker 2: gathering took place within weeks of that September twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: one event. So, as the article says, the Herald's Son
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  Speaker 2: just recently had a report that forty Victoria Rare Ambulance
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  Speaker 2: staffers had gathered to farewell one of their colleagues. This
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  Speaker 2: at a time when everyone in Victoria was restricted to
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  Speaker 2: just ten people at a funeral. As I said, they
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  Speaker 2: had forty at theirs and it was held at an
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  Speaker 2: ambulance branch so as to not be conspicuous. The hearse
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  Speaker 2: drove past the ambulance branch. It's alleged as forty members
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  Speaker 2: gathered there to form a kind of guard of honor. Now,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that particular event was booked in their calendars,
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  Speaker 2: Liz as a professional development event so that it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be picked up as a breach of COVID rules. And
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  Speaker 2: now with this inquiry underway in Victoria into the ambulance service,
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  Speaker 2: there's evidence of not one, but a second illegal funeral
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  Speaker 2: that was held. This would just make Victorians I rate.
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  Speaker 2: They suffered so badly, and yet to find that certain
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  Speaker 2: sections of the community were fragrantly breaching these rules.
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  Speaker 4: I mean government personnels, especially in the UK were busted
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  Speaker 4: for doing this too.
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  Speaker 3: Remember when they were having parties.
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  Speaker 1: It was the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 3: Just incredible some of the stories.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that one came out at the time, but
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  Speaker 4: I dare say quite a bit of this went on.
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  Speaker 4: That's just be speculating, But I always say, whenever these
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  Speaker 4: things come to light, you know, it's only the tip
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  Speaker 4: of the iceberg that's making the headlines, and it would
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  Speaker 4: be it would be absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Infuriating to be victorians.
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  Speaker 4: Knowing that this went on at a time when everybody
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  Speaker 4: else was locked up chain and key. And also given
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  Speaker 4: it was the paramedics, given it was ambulance Victoria, who
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  Speaker 4: would have been on the front lines, who would have
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  Speaker 4: been seeing all sorts of things during that time, people
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  Speaker 4: suffering with COVID, one would assume.
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  Speaker 3: And yet they took it this lightly.
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  Speaker 4: It makes you wonder, did they not believe in the
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  Speaker 4: rules that everybody else was being forced to abide by
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  Speaker 4: in a bid to quell this thing?
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  Speaker 5: Well, this is the thing, Like, clearly they knew that
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  Speaker 5: this thing could be safely managed, that if you were
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  Speaker 5: you know, if you're sensible enough and careful enough, and
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  Speaker 5: the various risk associated with it, you could have a
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  Speaker 5: gathering like this and not all die, because presumably, if
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  Speaker 5: they thought it would endanger everybody's life, there would be
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  Speaker 5: more than one casket at the next celebration or the
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  Speaker 5: next funeral that they held. So I obviously knew that.
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  Speaker 5: But more to the point, it just goes to a
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  Speaker 5: basic humanity that people should be allowed to mourn their
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  Speaker 5: loved ones. They should have that opportunity. The idea that
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  Speaker 5: you would ban people from doing that or restrict it
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  Speaker 5: to such a point that becomes ridiculous, like limiting it
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  Speaker 5: to something like ten. I know that during COVID, my
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  Speaker 5: wife's grandmother died and thanked God. The nursing home people
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  Speaker 5: has just sort of waved all the rules and everything.
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  Speaker 5: But there was every chance that she could have died
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  Speaker 5: without having all her children around her, for example. Now
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  Speaker 5: that is just an absolutely insane and inhuman response to
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  Speaker 5: any any condition, let alone a panemic. So clearly they
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  Speaker 5: knew that it was okay, and I don't condemn them
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  Speaker 5: for doing this. The fact that the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: world and the rest of that state was forbidden from
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  Speaker 5: doing it, that is actually the real crime here, not
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  Speaker 5: that they did, but that everybody else couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
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  Speaker 1: Royal Commission.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it on the other story on the front page
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  Speaker 2: of the Herald Son you need seventy million dollars on travel.
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  Speaker 2: The University of Melbourne had the highest expenditure in the
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  Speaker 2: nation on travel, with its staff racking up a bill
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  Speaker 2: of nearly seventy million dollars in twenty twenty three. Seventy
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  Speaker 2: million dollars on travel in just one year. New research
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  Speaker 2: reveals of Victorian universities are splurging on travel and consultants
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  Speaker 2: while underpaying their staff and posting operational deficits. Interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 2: The Canberra Times has got a story on their front
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  Speaker 2: page tomorrow about the ANU, which in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 2: to twenty three spent one hundred and ninety million dollars
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  Speaker 2: on consultants, advertising and travel. They are now cutting their
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  Speaker 2: budget and of course where do you think they're cutting,
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  Speaker 2: Liz staffing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, of course that's where it's gotta go. Joe, you've
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  Speaker 3: got the advertiser.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, to be fair to the
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  Speaker 1: A and you.
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  Speaker 5: They are in Canberra, so you would pay any amount
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  Speaker 5: of money to get out any opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Like where are you going?
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  Speaker 5: Oh they go to different different conferences, symposium or symposia
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  Speaker 5: if anyone wants to correct my la. But academics do
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  Speaker 5: it all the time. Yeah, absolutely. And Melbourne University it's
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  Speaker 5: my old alma mater as well. It's where I've got
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  Speaker 5: my Bachelor of Arts. Don't think I actually collected this again,
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  Speaker 5: still I may still owe them some library fines. Anyway,
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  Speaker 5: let's get to the Adelaide Advertiser now, which is basically
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne minus twenty years and great story by Steven Drill
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  Speaker 5: on the front page. Kremlin in ninety minute range of
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  Speaker 5: the Northern Territory, Russian TU ninety five bombers would be
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  Speaker 5: able to hit Darwin within ninety minutes if they are
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  Speaker 5: allowed to use an Indonesian military base at Biak.
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  Speaker 1: A defense expert.
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  Speaker 5: Warns cruise missiles fired from the base thirteen one hundred
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  Speaker 5: kilometers north of Australia would also allow Russia to attack
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  Speaker 5: US military basis on Guam. Russia's request for access to
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  Speaker 5: Indonesia's Bick military base has caused a political firestorm in
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: a lead up to Saturday's federal election, and former Defense
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  Speaker 5: Secretary Mirke Gazulo has sounded the alarm about what he
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  Speaker 5: says is Russia's reason for the plan, which you'll have
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  Speaker 5: to buy the Advertiser to find out.
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  Speaker 2: Which just goes to show why this is an issue
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  Speaker 2: that should not have been just dismissed slash light about
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  Speaker 2: by the Albanesi government.
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  Speaker 5: Yology James, It's not a lie, it's tactical obfuscation.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big story and it's of massive national importance.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they'll put some virgin pilots flying out of Darwin
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  Speaker 2: and we'll all be saved.
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  Speaker 3: We need you guys.
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  Speaker 4: To the front page of The Australia now with the
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  Speaker 4: splash reads Labor Minister Russias to acts Chinese recruits. Labor
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  Speaker 4: Cabinet Minister Clara O'Neill has been embroiled in.
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  Speaker 3: An election.
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  Speaker 4: Roversi over Chinese campaign volunteers, with the confirmation ten individuals
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  Speaker 4: linked to an organization associated with Beijing's foreign influence operation
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  Speaker 4: were being recruited to staff her.
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  Speaker 3: Polling booth on election day.
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  Speaker 4: The Australian can reveal Chinese Australian Labor Party member Chap Chow,
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  Speaker 4: who describes himself as a.
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  Speaker 3: Friend of the minister.
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  Speaker 4: He's been helping out organized with the Hubei Association in
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  Speaker 4: the past week to recruit volunteers for her electorate of Hotham. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: this is on the back of those two Chinese volunteers
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  Speaker 4: for the Teals in the sense who were literally saying,
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  Speaker 4: we have been instructed to vote Teal.
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  Speaker 5: We have been instructed by our honorable Communist masters to
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  Speaker 5: vote for the Teal Party of Australia.
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  Speaker 3: So this from bad to worse.
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  Speaker 4: And now, of course we're all wondering how many more
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  Speaker 4: of these are in the ranks rather of Labor and
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  Speaker 4: the DEA.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, come on, look, you expect Labor to have ridiculously
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  Speaker 5: close ties with the Chinese.
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  Speaker 1: The teals.
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  Speaker 5: They're doing it all wrong. This doesn't surprise me, the
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  Speaker 5: size of posinesses covering it up well enough, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: They used to be good at that. They really let
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  Speaker 5: their guard down.
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  Speaker 2: They certainly have let their guard down. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: go to a break when we come back. They so
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  Speaker 2: there's only one Don Bradman, But a fourteen year old
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  Speaker 2: is demonstrating that maybe that's wrong. Maybe there is a second.
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  Speaker 2: We'll show you his exploits.
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  Speaker 1: In just a moment.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 2: Well, of course, Donald Bradman is the greatest Test cricketer
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  Speaker 2: who's ever lived, famously averaging ninety nine runs every time
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  Speaker 2: he went out to bat. No wonder they say there's
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  Speaker 2: only one Don Bradman, But maybe that's all about to
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  Speaker 2: change thanks to a fourteen year old kid playing in
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  Speaker 2: the Indian IPLT twenty League who overnight smashed one hundred
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  Speaker 2: runs off just thirty five balls, the second fastest century
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  Speaker 2: in T twenty history. And as I said, the kid
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  Speaker 2: is only fourteen years old facing test bowlers, have a
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  Speaker 2: look at this.
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  Speaker 1: Deep we'll get.
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  Speaker 3: Told him the hundred of just.
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  Speaker 9: Twenty five balls.
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  Speaker 3: That's the fourteen year old boy.
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  Speaker 2: The kids in year nine at school he had seven four's,
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  Speaker 2: eleven six's and only the West Indian great Christopher Gale
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  Speaker 2: has hit a century in quicker time than this kid.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Indian great Sachon ten Duka described it as a fabulous
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  Speaker 2: innings and cricket lovers in India are referring to him
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  Speaker 2: as and this is his new nickname, boss Baby. Here's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the ovation he got when he was eventually out for
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and one.
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  Speaker 9: Young man will lead the park to a standing ovision.
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  Speaker 9: It's been such an innings. Every one of his Appulding's
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  Speaker 9: levels stand up.
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  Speaker 2: This fourteen year old kid was asked how do you
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  Speaker 2: do it? And he responded simply, I don't have any fear.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think about it that much.
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  Speaker 1: I have no big different securities.
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  Speaker 5: You know what they you know they're call him boss
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  Speaker 5: baby now that is because and the most startling thing
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: I found about this story was that he was the
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  Speaker 5: second to do it. So what someone who's actually scored
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: one faster? And you mentioned Chris kh His nickname is
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Universe Boss. How's that for any name?
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Universe Boss, Like, not just World Boss.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Not just Solar System Boss, not just Galaxy bias, Universe Boss.
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  Speaker 5: Amazing stuff man.
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  Speaker 2: At age thirteen, he was signed by the Rajasthan Royals
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  Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. I dare say
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  Speaker 2: his next contract in the IPL will be worth a
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  Speaker 2: lot more and he's going to be batting against Australia
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  Speaker 2: for the next twenty five years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know he's a fourteen year old kid.
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  Speaker 1: What's it going to do?
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  Speaker 5: What's he going to spend all the money on Links
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Africa anyway? Another sporting because we're known of the debate
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: for our sporting coverage. Another sporting debate. The Wrexham FC
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: football club has just.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Done something.
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  Speaker 5: They're on their way to Sydney and they're owned by
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: Ryan Reynolds.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the key.
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  Speaker 3: They're owned by Ryan Reynolds.
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  Speaker 2: They'll be coming to Sydney and I think a lot
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: more people will be excited about Ryan Reynolds being in
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Sydney than they will be about the football team. That's
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  Speaker 2: all we've got time for tonight, but don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up in just a moment is Rita Pennahee.
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  Speaker 1: Good Night,