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Gorgeous Aeris Hammock, 24, Disappears in Christmas Tour of Homes · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: A gorgeous young girl. Her life in front of her
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Speaker 1: suddenly seemingly vanishes, joining me her dad begging for your help.
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Speaker 1: I mean, see Grays. This is crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series
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Speaker 1: M one eleven. What do we know about Aris's disappearance? Listen?
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Speaker 1: Aris was last seen in this cul de sac right here.
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Speaker 1: When her parents searched her location Friday night, they assumed
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Speaker 1: that she was safe because of all the restaurants in
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Speaker 1: this area. But when they didn't hear back from her
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Speaker 1: within a few hours, which they say is completely unlike her,
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Speaker 1: they knew something was wrong. This is surreal. This is
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Speaker 1: not something I would ever want to happen to anyone.
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Speaker 1: It's I think a parent's worst nightmare that we're living
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Speaker 1: right now, being caught in a horrible nightmare and imare
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Speaker 1: from which you can't wake up. We are begging for
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Speaker 1: your help in the search of Airis Hammock. This girl
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Speaker 1: is scrubbed in sunshine. She's like the daughter everybody wants
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Speaker 1: to have. I want you to listen to more from
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Speaker 1: our friends at Fox forty. Ari's Hammock's parents say she
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Speaker 1: left her home in Roseville alone in her gray Mustang
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Speaker 1: around one thirty Friday afternoon to explore like any twenty
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Speaker 1: four year old would. But when they didn't hear from
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Speaker 1: her that evening, fear began to set in. The family
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Speaker 1: tracked Aris's phone location to this cool to sac near
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Speaker 1: thirtieth Street and Third Avenue. Being that it was around
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Speaker 1: a couple of restaurants, they thought you would be here
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Speaker 1: with a group of friends. I didn't get too worried
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Speaker 1: because I feel like Leshia was somewhere where there's a
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Speaker 1: potentially a crowd because Gunther's always pulls in a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, right ice cream people are always coming in
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Speaker 1: and out of here. But again, when it started getting
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Speaker 1: about nine or ten things we're closing now, we still
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Speaker 1: had it heard from her that started setting off. Red
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Speaker 1: wife joining me in Austar Pound makes sense of what
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Speaker 1: we know right now. But first I want to go
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Speaker 1: to a very special guest joining us, Charles Hammock. This
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Speaker 1: is Aris's dad. Charles, tell me when you last saw Aris?
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Speaker 1: What happened? My daughter lives with both my wife and I.
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Speaker 1: Um we last saw her Friday afternoon, sometime between one
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Speaker 1: and two pm. She shared with us that she was
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Speaker 1: going out as soon she was going out to meet
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Speaker 1: up with some friends. Now, hold on just a second,
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Speaker 1: right there, Charles, I'm glad you told me that, because
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Speaker 1: when I heard that reporter from Fox forty says she
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Speaker 1: went exploring, I'm like, what does that mean? But you're
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Speaker 1: telling me she went out to meet some friends. We
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Speaker 1: made that assumption. She said that she was going out,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we made the assumption that she was,
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Speaker 1: you know, going out to you know, meet with meet
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Speaker 1: with some friends. You know, she didn't say specifically, you know,
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Speaker 1: where she was going. I did ask her, you know,
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Speaker 1: when she was going to be back, and she said shortly.
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Speaker 1: So we just assumed that we would see her in
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Speaker 1: a couple hours. Guys, we're talking about twenty four year
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Speaker 1: old heriss Hammock. I'm looking at a picture of her
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Speaker 1: right now. She's got long blonde hair, and the picture
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at, she typically pulls her hair back right
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Speaker 1: there in the sides and puts it back, maybe in
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Speaker 1: a braid, and lets the rest hang down. She's been
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Speaker 1: missing since this past Friday, December at nine. What time
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Speaker 1: of the day or night was it that you saw her, Charles,
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Speaker 1: Sometime between one and two the afternoon. Okay, let me
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Speaker 1: go further beyond that. You see her at one or
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Speaker 1: two o'clock in the afternoon. Did she leave in her vehicle? Yes,
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Speaker 1: yes she did. Can you describe the vehicle for me? Sure?
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Speaker 1: It's a two thirteen gray Ford Mustang two thirteen gray
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Speaker 1: Ford Mustang. What is that? A two door? Yes? Two door?
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Speaker 1: Tell me something? I want to go straight out to.
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Speaker 1: Alexis Terreschut Crime online dot Com investigative reporter covering the
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Speaker 1: story from the very beginning. Let's start at the beginning.
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Speaker 1: So Aris leaves home to meet up with friends around
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Speaker 1: one o'clock, between one and two in the afternoon, Friday,
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Speaker 1: December nine. She leaves in a gray Mustang two door.
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Speaker 1: What happens next, Alexis So, then she heads to an
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Speaker 1: area and the reason that we know this one her
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Speaker 1: parents found the car. But there is a video, there's
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Speaker 1: ring cameras, so it's actually a bit of a residential neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: She pulls into this area and seems from the video
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Speaker 1: that the police have obtained finally that the neighbors have
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Speaker 1: taken on, you know, on the ring cameras. She looks
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Speaker 1: a little bit confused. She kind of sits in the
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Speaker 1: car for a while, then she gets out. She kind
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Speaker 1: of it is going from place to place, like a
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Speaker 1: house to house, an area to area. It looks sounds
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Speaker 1: like she's looking for something. Is that what you're saying,
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Speaker 1: like looking for a particular address. Guys, I want to
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Speaker 1: follow up on what Alexis Treshchuk is saying right now.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Zach Boeto. So the Hammocks left
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Speaker 1: their Roseville home in search of their daughter, but when
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Speaker 1: they found her car they're in Sacramento. Something was off.
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Speaker 1: The car was unlocked, the keys were in the car,
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Speaker 1: her ID credit cards all the car. We were able
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Speaker 1: to track the vehicle because her phone, which we couldn't
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Speaker 1: find initially going into the car, was in the glove box.
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Speaker 1: That's when Charles and Leilani called nine one one. Not
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Speaker 1: only were her belongings in the car, but her phone
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Speaker 1: had been wiped. Everything was erased back at least six
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Speaker 1: months on every single one. Somebody went to great length
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Speaker 1: to erase a lot of information. Joining me. In addition
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Speaker 1: to Aris's father, Charles and Crime Online reporter Alexis tres
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Speaker 1: Chuck d Ingram is with US former Deputy sheriff with
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Speaker 1: the Placer County Sheriff's Department. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: being with us day Ingram. I know you handle and
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Speaker 1: you instruct personal safety classes for women. What do you
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Speaker 1: make of this disappearance. It's totally out of character for Aris.
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Speaker 1: She's never done this before. You know, I've known Aris
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Speaker 1: since she was a little girl, and I've always worried
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Speaker 1: about Aris because she is very naive, but she's also
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Speaker 1: an optimist. I mean, she doesn't see, you know, not
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Speaker 1: so much to the danger, but the darker side of people.
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Speaker 1: She's very, very trusting. So I got I was at
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Speaker 1: work at Susan's Armory and I got a call from
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Speaker 1: the Hammocks Saturday morning, and Leilani was beside herself and
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Speaker 1: she told me what happened. And I dropped everything, and
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Speaker 1: I said, what is Sacramento Police Department doing? Well? What
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Speaker 1: I found out was that Sacramento Police Department they didn't
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Speaker 1: respond to their nine one one call for three hours.
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Speaker 1: That was concerning. And you know where We're talking about
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Speaker 1: a girl that you know, lives at home at Roseville.
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Speaker 1: She's your average American girl and her keys, her credit cards,
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Speaker 1: her id. All of this is suspicious. Charles Hammock joining me,
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Speaker 1: this is Aris's dad. So you actually at some point
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Speaker 1: go looking for your daughter. Describe to me how you
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Speaker 1: got to the point that you leave to go look
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Speaker 1: for her and Nancy. So we started reaching out to
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Speaker 1: Arius at about four thirty in the afternoon, my wife did,
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Speaker 1: because we hadn't heard from Arison. We had expected her home.
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Speaker 1: We texted her, no response, called her no response. Okay,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute, right there, Okay, Troy Slayton l A
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney, Slayton Lawyers, Twitter at Troy Slayton, right there,
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Speaker 1: at Troy, take off your defense hat. Everybody I know,
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Speaker 1: including my own children, I have to gently remind them
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Speaker 1: every morning on the way to school to get off
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Speaker 1: their phone there with an actual live person. Now, when
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Speaker 1: you've fine somebody that's aged twenty four and they don't
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Speaker 1: have their cell phone, that's not right, Troy, right there.
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Speaker 1: Highly unusual, Nancy, that a twenty four year old would
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Speaker 1: leave all of their means of payment, leave their phone,
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Speaker 1: leave all their belongings in an unlocked car. And what
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Speaker 1: also concerns me is the reporting that the phone was
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Speaker 1: not wiped completely, because that's something very easy to do
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Speaker 1: to just erase everything on a phone, but to go
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Speaker 1: through and just delete things back a certain number of
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Speaker 1: months is something that's very difficult, takes a lot of time,
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Speaker 1: and who would want to just delete back a certain
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Speaker 1: number of days or weeks. Charles Hammock is with me.
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Speaker 1: This is Airis's dad asking for your help. The tip
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Speaker 1: line is nine one six eight zero eight five four
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Speaker 1: seven one repeat nine one six zero eight five four
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Speaker 1: seven one. So Charles Hammock and the mom, Leilanie. She's
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Speaker 1: been gone about three hours or so from one to
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Speaker 1: four thirty, and she just said I'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back shortly. And now she's not answering texts.
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Speaker 1: There are times a lot of times that I'll call
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Speaker 1: the twins during the school day and I know they
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Speaker 1: can't pick the phone up, so I'll leave a message.
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Speaker 1: Usually I text. Many people don't pick up the phone.
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Speaker 1: They like texting better for whatever reason. So for her
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Speaker 1: to not answer her text, Charles Hammock, isn't that unusual
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Speaker 1: for her, It's incredibly unusual. Nancy. She's very responsive. She's
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Speaker 1: typically very responsible as well of even just saying you know, hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm going to be gone a little bit
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Speaker 1: longer than I thought and checking in with us. So Nancy,
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Speaker 1: at this point, my wife rightfully became very, very worried
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Speaker 1: because our family is on the same phone plan. My
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Speaker 1: wife was resourceful enough to find an application we used
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Speaker 1: through our phone carrier. I mean, like find my iPhone. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's like a family's It's not even specific. I
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Speaker 1: thought it's like a fight. It's like a family Share
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Speaker 1: or Family Secure. Oh, like one of those family circle things.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what she saw? Do you know what
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Speaker 1: he's talking about? Brian Fitzgibbons, Yes, absolutely, This is uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, amazing that you guys were able to track
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Speaker 1: that down so fast. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Brian Fitzgibbons,
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Speaker 1: Search and Rescue Expert, Vice President Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. Brian,
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Speaker 1: what is it called? What is that app called? We
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Speaker 1: have Live three sixty and we also have Find my iPhone,
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Speaker 1: mostly for me because the phone could be anywhere at
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Speaker 1: any time. But is it like Live three sixty Brian, Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 1: What mister Hammock's referencing, I believe is through the carrier. So,
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Speaker 1: because Aris's phone was on the family Share plan, you
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Speaker 1: may like Verizon or T Mobile or Sprint or something
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Speaker 1: the carrier office. Okay, and it does what and and
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Speaker 1: because that phone was associated with the family account, they
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Speaker 1: were able to go to the carrier to get that
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Speaker 1: location information, albeit that the phone had been manually and
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Speaker 1: I echo what Troy said that that that is very
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Speaker 1: concerning to me that the phone was manually wiped versus
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Speaker 1: factory reset. So this isn't necessarily an app. This isn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily a find my iPhone thing. This is this is
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Speaker 1: a service that's divided through the cell phone carrier. Do
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Speaker 1: they all have it? Charles? What is your carrier? AT
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Speaker 1: and T? Okay? Hold on, I want to get information
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Speaker 1: from you, Charles, and let Brian and d Troy and
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Speaker 1: doctor Angie Arnold and Alexis evaluate what you're saying. So, Charles,
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Speaker 1: you go through your AT and T carrier and does
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Speaker 1: that tell you what where the phone is? So you
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Speaker 1: drive right to where the car is. Yeah, it gave
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Speaker 1: us a general It gave us I think it pings
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Speaker 1: off the like different phone tower, So it gives you,
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Speaker 1: i'd say, a fairly general within maybe one hundred two
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Speaker 1: hundred yards kind of location. Okay, let me just analyze that,
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Speaker 1: so you get between one and two hundred yards of
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Speaker 1: where her phone is. Eris's phone. For those of you
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Speaker 1: who just joining us, Arias Hammock is missing. She's just
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Speaker 1: twenty four, lives at home with her parents, has never
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Speaker 1: gone missing before, hasn't gone on a walk about or
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Speaker 1: has never needed time alone or space or breathing room,
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Speaker 1: all those things you here. She's never done this. Very responsible.
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Speaker 1: If she's going to be late, she texts mom and dad, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be a few hours late. They don't care.
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Speaker 1: They just want to know she's safe. So listen to this.
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Speaker 1: She leaves around one between one and two o'clock on
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Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon, says, hey, I'll be right back, leaves
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Speaker 1: in a gray Mustang. They have not seen her since.
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Speaker 1: They start getting worried. The mom and they do the
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like finding my iPhone, but it's through
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Speaker 1: AT and T and you have a family circle, and
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Speaker 1: they locate between about two hundred yards or so where
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Speaker 1: the phone is. Okay, pick it up there, Charles Nancy.
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Speaker 1: So at about four between I think probably sometime between
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Speaker 1: four thirty and five, my wife used this location services
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Speaker 1: to locate general area where eris was and this is
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Speaker 1: after the text go unanswered. Correct, Okay, so it was
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Speaker 1: near a popular kind of a landmark ice cream shop
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Speaker 1: in Sacramento. What ice cream shop is that. It's called
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Speaker 1: gu n t h e r S. I think it's
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Speaker 1: g u e n t e r S. I'll have
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Speaker 1: to get back to you, Onna now, I'm looking it
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Speaker 1: up right now. Keep going on to hear the story
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Speaker 1: gu n t I'll find it. Keep going. So, and
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Speaker 1: there was a cafe in that area. We're not super
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Speaker 1: familiar with the area. It's about a half hour from
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Speaker 1: where we live, but we know it's a fairly popular area.
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Speaker 1: There's typically a lot of people there, so we made
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Speaker 1: the assumption that she was there with other people. Is
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Speaker 1: this the one on Franklin Boulevard? Correct, gotcha? Oh my goodness. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is like Leopol's and Savannah Jackie, Jackie and Sydney
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Speaker 1: are in here when they hurt ice cream. It's like
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Speaker 1: what it's Yeah, this is the kind of place that
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Speaker 1: you would travel thirty minutes to go visit Gunther's ice
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Speaker 1: Cream it obviously. Is is it historical? Yes, it's been
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Speaker 1: there for many, many years. It's very popular. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: it's it's a huge, big deal. I'm looking at an
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Speaker 1: aerial shot of it right now. It's all lit up.
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Speaker 1: It looks like one of the fifties diners. It's in
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Speaker 1: the area of the Fab forties, which was what we
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Speaker 1: call the area that's beautiful homes almost very very anabellam
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Speaker 1: like Sab forties in Sacramento. And to add to that,
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Speaker 1: Nancy one other thought that went through our mind, given
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Speaker 1: the time frame that we found her phone being there,
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Speaker 1: the hell homes in that area that are very close
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Speaker 1: to Sab forties that d references are lit up a
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Speaker 1: lot at Christmas. A lot of people walk through that
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Speaker 1: area to walk the streets and look at the Christmas homes.
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Speaker 1: That's one of our favorite things to do. Charles's drive
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Speaker 1: around and look at lights. And this has been there
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Speaker 1: since the forties and original recipe that everybody comes for.
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Speaker 1: I bet they go there, they get treats at Gunther's
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Speaker 1: and then they walk the Fab forties mansions to look
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Speaker 1: at the Christmas lights. So thoughts went through our mind
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Speaker 1: that you know, maybe she's there meeting up with friends
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Speaker 1: doing that, going to look at Christmas light You're just
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Speaker 1: giving me chills all over my health self because we
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Speaker 1: do that with the twins. That's what I said, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: This is something that could we feel could happen to anybody.
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Speaker 1: So tell me what happens. You get there, you see Gunther's,
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Speaker 1: you realize where where, you understand the neighborhood, where she
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Speaker 1: was when you see the car, Where was it part.
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Speaker 1: So there's a small street that goes into an alleylane
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Speaker 1: with a few residents, a few residents, a few residential units,
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Speaker 1: few homes that are in that area. Going back to
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Speaker 1: the timeline, we first were able to see her phone
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Speaker 1: in her phone location sometime between four thirty and five.
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Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, Charles, I I'm sorry, but I've
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Speaker 1: just got to tell you something. I'm looking at everything
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Speaker 1: you're saying, because you know I'm either in New York
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Speaker 1: or Atlanta at all times, and I've never heard of this.
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Speaker 1: This is actually the fabulous forties Christmas tradition. He's not
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Speaker 1: just saying, hey, maybe she looked at lights. This is
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Speaker 1: a thing. It's a big thing. Touring the forties is
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Speaker 1: a Christmas tradition for families and friends to see holiday lights,
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Speaker 1: even with horse drawn carriage or wagon you love the
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Speaker 1: slow pace making your way through this beautiful neighborhood. The
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Speaker 1: homes are decorated very elaborately, beautiful lights, rands going from
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Speaker 1: one side of the street to the next, porch columns
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Speaker 1: and lighted garland, oak trees wrapped in colored lights, characters
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Speaker 1: from Christmas movies, major displays, the whole thing. So, yes,
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Speaker 1: now I get what you're saying. I had never heard
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Speaker 1: of this, this tourist thing. Okay, now I understand your reasoning, Charles, Okay,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Sinancy. We first were able to locate her
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Speaker 1: phone between thirty and five. Wait when you see the car?
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Speaker 1: What did you think? So we got to the car
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Speaker 1: at about ten ten thirty that evening after not being
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Speaker 1: able to get in contact with her, and noticed that
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Speaker 1: her location had not changed the probably four or five
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Speaker 1: times that we went to track it, and we became
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Speaker 1: very very worried because the businesses they were closing down
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Speaker 1: around that time. Oh well, oh that feeling, dodger Angela
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Speaker 1: Arnold grounds like I just joining me outa in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: Dodger Angie. That feeling when things are starting to close
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Speaker 1: and now it's been nine hours and she won't takes
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Speaker 1: back if she won't call back, and people are starting
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Speaker 1: to go home. That you know that feeling, Yeah, you're
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Speaker 1: buoyant for a while, that you know we're going to
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Speaker 1: find a car. She's around her somewhere. And then the
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Speaker 1: hours passed, us getting cold and starts getting dark, and
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Speaker 1: people are starting to leave, and then you realize she's
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Speaker 1: not there. It's such a feeling of desperation. I mean,
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Speaker 1: imagine it. It comes like searching for a needle in
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Speaker 1: a haystack. I mean, all of a sudden, where is she?
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Speaker 1: She could be anywhere, right, And that's when the despair
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Speaker 1: starts to set in and the realization that, oh, my god,
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Speaker 1: something really terrible could have happened to her, And are
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Speaker 1: we ever going to find her? Charles, haven't you're with
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Speaker 1: your wife, Leilanie. You find the car, and I bet
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Speaker 1: when you found the car, you thought, oh, find God,
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Speaker 1: there's the car's absolutely and then it guess to be
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Speaker 1: ten thirty and what happens? So, Nancy, we located the
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Speaker 1: vehicle based upon the phone location, because we were tracking
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Speaker 1: the phone, which we happen to find in the car.
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Speaker 1: When we went to the car, I saw no one
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Speaker 1: within the vehicle. I opened the door handle, and the
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Speaker 1: car was unlocked. When I looked inside the vehicle after
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Speaker 1: opening the door are I saw her credit cards and
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Speaker 1: her ID and the center console of the vehicle, her
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Speaker 1: car keys, and the center console of the vehicle. We
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Speaker 1: did not see her purse, and I did not see
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Speaker 1: her cell phone. So I was a bit puzzled by
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Speaker 1: not seeing her cell phone. But I know that the
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Speaker 1: location services aren't precise and accurate, so I proceeded to
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Speaker 1: call the phone, thinking it might be in the general
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Speaker 1: area in the vicinity of the car, and I heard
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Speaker 1: of buzzing coming from the front of the car. I
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Speaker 1: proceeded to open the glove box and the phone was
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Speaker 1: in the glove box on the vibrate mode. Is that
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Speaker 1: like car? I would never think to put my phone
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Speaker 1: in the glove box. I don't think that's like anybody Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I just hey, I would keep it with me. But
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Speaker 1: wait a minute. You see her ID, her credit cards.
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Speaker 1: Where were the keys? Also in the center console with
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Speaker 1: her credit card and ID? Was it closed or was
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Speaker 1: it open to plane view? It was open to plane view,
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Speaker 1: I said. Center console's really cupholder, so it sounds like
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Speaker 1: the car is left there. Basically, asking someone to steal
21:14
Speaker 1: it because the wind the doors are unlocked, and they
21:18
Speaker 1: are the keys and credit cards and ID everything's right there, Charles,
21:24
Speaker 1: Is that like her? Is that her routine? No, that's
21:27
Speaker 1: not like anybody's routine, Nancy, Because everybody has a routine.
21:31
Speaker 1: When I am at our family home, a park, in
21:34
Speaker 1: a garage, I shut the door and I just get out,
21:37
Speaker 1: and I'll always leave my jacket and a couple of
21:40
Speaker 1: other things in the car. It's just a routine. What
21:44
Speaker 1: was her routine, Charles? Well, Nancy, she was a very
21:46
Speaker 1: secure person. She would, you know, she'd keep the door locked.
21:49
Speaker 1: She always made sure our front door was locked at home.
21:53
Speaker 1: You know, I never known her to sit there and
21:54
Speaker 1: leave you know, keys or IDs or you know, credit cards,
21:59
Speaker 1: you know, just strown about in plain sight. I said, Nancy,
22:03
Speaker 1: none of this added up at also immediately when I
22:05
Speaker 1: saw that the cold nine old one. What went through
22:07
Speaker 1: your mind when you saw her ID, credit cards and
22:10
Speaker 1: keys just laying there and a cup holder. I was
22:13
Speaker 1: afraid that somebody took her, Nancy. Guys, take a listen
22:15
Speaker 1: to our cut three. This is Fox forty. After going
22:19
Speaker 1: door to door trying to get any information, to find
22:21
Speaker 1: their daughter. Charles and Leilani got a hold of surveillance
22:24
Speaker 1: video showing she was wandering up and down that cold
22:26
Speaker 1: de sac and through a nearby alley. They think she
22:29
Speaker 1: was led there. I feel like she was potentially lord
22:33
Speaker 1: here because she was hot. She's talking to somebody. Aris's parents,
22:38
Speaker 1: with no other communication with their daughter, fear the worst
22:42
Speaker 1: and are now reaching out to the public for help.
22:45
Speaker 1: We're so uncomfortable with getting all the stuff out there,
22:49
Speaker 1: but we know to find her that we need to.
22:51
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch these shows, well, doing couver thing
22:55
Speaker 1: is going to be you. Charles, tell me about going
22:58
Speaker 1: door to door, Nancy. So we initially reached out to
23:03
Speaker 1: the place. When we got to the location sometime between
23:05
Speaker 1: ten thirty and eleven, we waited for a couple of
23:09
Speaker 1: hours for the police to arrive. We did not go
23:13
Speaker 1: door to door at that time. It wasn't until later
23:16
Speaker 1: the following day, simply for the fact that it was
23:19
Speaker 1: at night, it was in a you know, a kind
23:22
Speaker 1: of an area we feel uncomfortable with. The police did
23:25
Speaker 1: go door to door and you ask for a couple
23:28
Speaker 1: of you know, people's help to see if they had
23:30
Speaker 1: saw anything or had any footage or information. Later that
23:34
Speaker 1: following day, we kind of canvassed the area ourselves, spoke
23:39
Speaker 1: with neighbors that lived kind of in that general vicinity,
23:43
Speaker 1: probably within kind of a one thousand and two thousand
23:46
Speaker 1: foot radio to talk to people that might have seen
23:50
Speaker 1: her or saw anything, or had any video footage of
23:54
Speaker 1: that area at that time, and what, if anything, did
23:57
Speaker 1: you find. So we found a few things, Nancy. One
24:01
Speaker 1: is is we had some great video footage of Eris,
24:05
Speaker 1: so we have specifically a good frame of reference for
24:09
Speaker 1: what she was wearing at the time that she was
24:11
Speaker 1: last seen. We also see what appears to be the
24:15
Speaker 1: fact that she was trying to contact somebody on the phone.
24:19
Speaker 1: So she had her phone at that point. Correct, She
24:22
Speaker 1: had her phone as well as her purse, as well
24:25
Speaker 1: as her car keys on what we can see in
24:27
Speaker 1: some video footage at that time. So we're certain that
24:33
Speaker 1: she did not go there, leave all other things in
24:36
Speaker 1: the car and just walk away. So when you say
24:40
Speaker 1: she's I got the impression you thought she was looking
24:44
Speaker 1: for an address or someone. Correct, Why why do you
24:48
Speaker 1: think that, Nancy? We were when we a couple of things.
24:53
Speaker 1: When we were found the phone, My wife was lucky
24:57
Speaker 1: to be able to unlock the phone and guess her password.
25:01
Speaker 1: So we started looking immediately through information on her phone.
25:06
Speaker 1: An he had the call logue, any of the you know,
25:09
Speaker 1: you know maps, anything that was on there that could
25:12
Speaker 1: give us some information. Hold on just a sec Charles.
25:15
Speaker 1: She was last seen wearing pink ugs, gray sweatpants, a
25:22
Speaker 1: navy or black hooded coat, and a white and black
25:26
Speaker 1: a white and black pupper jacket. White and black? What
25:29
Speaker 1: kind of a pupper ski jacket? She may have a
25:32
Speaker 1: purse which is black with a gold chain. Oh, and
25:35
Speaker 1: she has an arrow like a bow and arrow an
25:39
Speaker 1: arrow tattoo on her forearm wrist to elbow, which arm
25:44
Speaker 1: her right one, right arm. What does the arrow mean?
25:47
Speaker 1: It's just a symbol of pointing in the right direction,
25:50
Speaker 1: pointing forward in the future. Wow, very positive personality, absolutely
25:55
Speaker 1: And anyway, I want everybody to be able to see
25:58
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So she's going now again? I
26:01
Speaker 1: thought I heard d ingram jumping in d Why do
26:05
Speaker 1: you believe she was looking for a particular person or address? Well?
26:08
Speaker 1: When when m lelan in Charles called me, um, we
26:14
Speaker 1: went down to the scene. So I took pictures of
26:16
Speaker 1: the car. You know, the wheels were turned in, which
26:20
Speaker 1: means to me that she didn't come in to make
26:21
Speaker 1: a U turn in that called a sect. She actually
26:23
Speaker 1: deliberately parked there. So I wanted to look at the
26:26
Speaker 1: phone because in my in my experience, um, in my career,
26:30
Speaker 1: the phone records are critical and there's a timeline that's critical.
26:33
Speaker 1: So I started going to the phone and the first
26:34
Speaker 1: thing I noticed was there was a the Google app
26:39
Speaker 1: was open, but they were looking at her text. She
26:43
Speaker 1: had one phone call, um you know, from actually, let
26:48
Speaker 1: me go back a little bit. She had several phone
26:50
Speaker 1: calls from her parents obviously, and several voicemails that were left.
26:53
Speaker 1: Other than that, there was a call, an unknown caller
26:57
Speaker 1: calling into her at nine two pm and it was
27:01
Speaker 1: a hang up call. It was an instant hang up.
27:03
Speaker 1: There was no seconds, nothing, And I thought, wow, that's
27:06
Speaker 1: very strange for them to have, you know, calls from
27:09
Speaker 1: her parents, one strange phone call. I started to go
27:12
Speaker 1: backwards and Airiss is on her phone, mind you all
27:16
Speaker 1: the time. So from that night, from about seven pm
27:22
Speaker 1: and that nine twenty two phone call in there was
27:25
Speaker 1: nothing behind it. There was I think it went back
27:28
Speaker 1: to November. There was a call in November an incoming.
27:33
Speaker 1: There were texts all the way back to twenty twenty one,
27:37
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking there is no way that Airis was
27:41
Speaker 1: not on that phone since twenty twenty one to Friday night. Question.
27:45
Speaker 1: You say that the call you saw there was something
27:49
Speaker 1: at seven and then at nine twenty two. Yeah, nine
27:52
Speaker 1: twenty two there was an unknown caller that called in right,
27:54
Speaker 1: and what was at seven? And then before that she
27:56
Speaker 1: had looked at the address again which she put in
28:00
Speaker 1: the I believe it was twenty nine correct me if
28:03
Speaker 1: I'm wrong with Charles, but twenty nine six or fifty
28:06
Speaker 1: thirtieth Street, and it was in there several times. Well,
28:10
Speaker 1: I went backwards in her Google app and she had
28:12
Speaker 1: googled that address the night before Thursday night, So that
28:15
Speaker 1: told me that she had had plans to go to
28:18
Speaker 1: this area the night before. Oh, by the way, Charles, usage,
28:22
Speaker 1: you're carry's at correct. This is what we've learned. You
28:26
Speaker 1: go into your bill, you look at ze usage details
28:32
Speaker 1: and you can look at talk text or data. If
28:35
Speaker 1: you look at talk you see the actual phone log.
28:40
Speaker 1: And I understand, Charles Hammock, you have already done that.
28:43
Speaker 1: So you already know that right, correct, So even though
28:46
Speaker 1: it wasn't on the cell phone, you managed to find
28:49
Speaker 1: it on the phone bill, correct, and you gave it
28:51
Speaker 1: a Sacramento pad. Correct. I'm curious, Charles, precisely what was
28:57
Speaker 1: wiped from her phone from Wind to win in. Yeah, Nancy,
29:01
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly the time frame on the information
29:04
Speaker 1: that was wiped. These actually looked at the phone a
29:08
Speaker 1: wonderful day. What's the time frame with me? Is d
29:10
Speaker 1: Ingram former deputy sheriff? Uh date? What's the time period
29:15
Speaker 1: that was? Why? From the from the text messages it
29:18
Speaker 1: was from that night, I would say everything from seven
29:23
Speaker 1: pm backwards to win last week, last month, last year
29:27
Speaker 1: when it was some of it was the text message
29:31
Speaker 1: was at least at least seven eight days, the emails
29:36
Speaker 1: and the recent phone calls back to twenty twenty one. Nancy,
29:40
Speaker 1: let me add something out here, just because I think
29:42
Speaker 1: I understand where there's some confusion. I think just to
29:45
Speaker 1: share with you one kind of side factor on this.
29:49
Speaker 1: So when when we got her phone, okay, and we
29:52
Speaker 1: went to look at the phone details on at AT
29:56
Speaker 1: and T was having technical issues preventing us from looking
30:00
Speaker 1: at a detail of usage for both Airis' number and
30:04
Speaker 1: one other number on our phone plan for the majority
30:08
Speaker 1: of the weekend. It wasn't until yesterday morning that we
30:11
Speaker 1: were actually able to get into and see Airis's usage details,
30:16
Speaker 1: after having to escalate to AT and T multiple times.
30:20
Speaker 1: So between the time that we had access to that
30:23
Speaker 1: information and the time that we spoke with Sacramento PD
30:26
Speaker 1: and spoke with a detective and gave over her laptop
30:30
Speaker 1: and her cell phone for them to run cyber forensics on,
30:34
Speaker 1: we did not have time to do an inventory looking
30:38
Speaker 1: at all of her texts and phone messages on her
30:42
Speaker 1: phone and comparing it to her usage data. Now we've
30:46
Speaker 1: turned that over to Sacramento PD for them to take
30:48
Speaker 1: a look at it, and we'll probably do it ourselves
30:51
Speaker 1: again when we get the phone back, but we were
30:55
Speaker 1: without a period of time that we could not see
30:58
Speaker 1: any of her cell phone information from AT and T
31:02
Speaker 1: in do that type of comparison. Let me understand about
31:04
Speaker 1: this address twenty nine fifty thirtieth straight, I believe it
31:08
Speaker 1: was twenty six ninety five. I think it was twenty
31:12
Speaker 1: six ninety five or twenty six fifty nine. What is
31:15
Speaker 1: twenty six fifty nine. It's a vacant lots. Yes, it's
31:19
Speaker 1: We're not sure why that address showed up in her
31:23
Speaker 1: Apple Maps but doesn't show up on Google Maps. When
31:27
Speaker 1: we first noticed that evening as we were looking through
31:31
Speaker 1: her phone waiting for the police. Twenty six fifty nine, right,
31:35
Speaker 1: twenty six fifty nine. Yeah, I may have a couple
31:38
Speaker 1: of those numbers, and unfortunately, you know, flip flop, and
31:41
Speaker 1: I don't have her phone in front of me. The
31:42
Speaker 1: police have it to reference. And that's an a lot, Yes,
31:46
Speaker 1: it's a it's this residential area that her car was
31:50
Speaker 1: found in. There is it recently went in or construction
31:55
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, a new freeway was put
31:57
Speaker 1: in an overpass and between two homes that were there,
32:03
Speaker 1: there's a vacant lot of land that's on a high slope,
32:08
Speaker 1: because all of this land runs up to supporting the overpass,
32:13
Speaker 1: to reporting supporting the freeway. But I would say it's
32:16
Speaker 1: probably a thin stretch of land at a high slope
32:20
Speaker 1: that probably runs about fifty two seventy yards wide. Time
32:39
Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace at this juncture, Brian Fitzgibbons is
32:46
Speaker 1: joining US Search and Rescue expert with USPA nationwide security.
32:53
Speaker 1: What do you advise exactly, you know, talking to you,
32:58
Speaker 1: continuing this media coverage and I think getting some kind
33:02
Speaker 1: of reward out through independent organizations to get information. You know,
33:10
Speaker 1: we've found that that the coupling media coverage with advertising
33:15
Speaker 1: rewards and getting her photo out there. Charles Hammett question
33:18
Speaker 1: to you, has airis ever just disappeared for this number
33:22
Speaker 1: of days before. She's never disappeared at all. She's never
33:25
Speaker 1: disappeared for hours even hours, neither of mine, thank God
33:29
Speaker 1: in heaven. So this is completely out of character. How
33:33
Speaker 1: was she feeling that day? I mean, from what you've
33:36
Speaker 1: told me, she was up eating normal when she left
33:38
Speaker 1: and said she'd be right back. It was fine. Everything's
33:40
Speaker 1: been fine at home, Nancy. We all get along. We
33:44
Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I went out to her
33:46
Speaker 1: Will Get dinner cheesecake factory with her brothers Wednesday evening.
33:52
Speaker 1: You know, everyone was looking forward to spending the holidays together.
33:55
Speaker 1: What does Aris do? Does she work? Is she in
33:58
Speaker 1: school right now? She's actually she's a little bit entrepreneurial, Nancy.
34:03
Speaker 1: She's started she's been working on a startup business, selling
34:07
Speaker 1: handbags and selling jewelry. Really off of the website and
34:11
Speaker 1: off of Etsy, And have you looked at the website
34:15
Speaker 1: and what she's selling on Etsy? Has anyone wanted to
34:20
Speaker 1: meet her for any reason through her website? Not that
34:25
Speaker 1: I'm aware of any type of traffic or activity that
34:28
Speaker 1: she had. Everything was shipped out. Was she on a
34:30
Speaker 1: dating website? Not that I'm aware of, But I don't know.
34:35
Speaker 1: Is she dating anyone right now? No? Has she had
34:37
Speaker 1: a recent breakup that you know of? No, not at all. Okay,
34:41
Speaker 1: Troy Slayton is joining me, high profile lawyer joining us
34:44
Speaker 1: out on California. Troy, I'm very concerned because they say
34:51
Speaker 1: they're watching her on this video and she seems to
34:55
Speaker 1: be looking for someone or an address as she's talking
34:58
Speaker 1: on the phone, and there's no video saying that she's
35:02
Speaker 1: going back that shows her going back to the car
35:06
Speaker 1: and then suddenly her cell phone, her credit card, her
35:10
Speaker 1: ID in the case of the car, or all back
35:12
Speaker 1: in the car and she's gone that suspicious Nancy. So
35:16
Speaker 1: that would obviously lead someone to believe that she is
35:21
Speaker 1: missing or was taken, or is somewhere in that local area.
35:28
Speaker 1: But what I would want to know, as with any
35:31
Speaker 1: twenty four year old is what was the social media activity?
35:36
Speaker 1: What was the activity that could be gleaned from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok?
35:42
Speaker 1: What about that? Charlsie's absolutely right, Charles Hammock, and we're
35:45
Speaker 1: training to piece that together from what we've been able
35:48
Speaker 1: to see. Eris wasn't a frequent Facebook user. I think
35:53
Speaker 1: she was more, you know, as far as on Instagram
35:56
Speaker 1: and TikTok. At one point earlier in her life she
36:00
Speaker 1: shared a lot of information out. I think as she
36:03
Speaker 1: got older she tended to be less focused on kind
36:06
Speaker 1: of putting out content and more watching things. I was
36:09
Speaker 1: able to get in contact with a group of virtual
36:13
Speaker 1: friends that she had because she used the Discord application
36:18
Speaker 1: quite a bit. She had actually gained some friends during
36:22
Speaker 1: the COVID period that were located across the US through Discord.
36:26
Speaker 1: She had flown to meet some of them on they
36:28
Speaker 1: have a ski trip in Colorado last winter. We were
36:32
Speaker 1: able to locate off off of a phone record at
36:35
Speaker 1: a conversation that she had had with one of those friends.
36:38
Speaker 1: He was kind enough to bring me into their Discord
36:42
Speaker 1: chat with a group of friends that they had to
36:45
Speaker 1: share the news and see if they happen to have
36:47
Speaker 1: any insights into who Aris might have been trying to
36:52
Speaker 1: meet with, why Eris would have been there, if Eris
36:55
Speaker 1: would have disappeared at all, And they've had no information
36:59
Speaker 1: or ideas they kind enough to share out because some
37:01
Speaker 1: of them have computer kind of backgrounds and expertise. I'm
37:05
Speaker 1: concerned about what you're saying about Discord because you know,
37:08
Speaker 1: on Discord you can remain completely anonymous. Communication between anyone
37:15
Speaker 1: can lee to exploitation and sextortion, right, And that is
37:20
Speaker 1: my fear that someone she's speaking to on Discords that
37:24
Speaker 1: I consider it a very dangerous platform. Nancy. It's it's
37:29
Speaker 1: important to know that Airis had four different emails Gmail
37:33
Speaker 1: accounts because she does her business and she has a
37:36
Speaker 1: personal one. She has one form school. All of those
37:38
Speaker 1: had been logged out of every device. The only reason
37:42
Speaker 1: that they were able to keep one of those open
37:45
Speaker 1: for pinging was because Aris was logged into her IM
37:48
Speaker 1: or her Apple computer at home. It was logged in
37:52
Speaker 1: at home, so all of her locations were paused. All
37:56
Speaker 1: of everything dicinct was turned off, and that was all
38:00
Speaker 1: from her phone. Yes, yes, okay, No, I'm very very concerned.
38:07
Speaker 1: Alexis Terreschuck joining me crime online dot Com Airis would
38:11
Speaker 1: not have turned everything off. And if she knew enough
38:15
Speaker 1: to turn everything off, Alexis terres Chuck, she would have
38:18
Speaker 1: also turned off for Apple computer at home. Nancy and
38:21
Speaker 1: Jane's very suspicious and if you heard worrisome that this
38:24
Speaker 1: is happening, and the police have told me. I spoke
38:26
Speaker 1: with the Sacramento Police Department yesterday and they said they
38:29
Speaker 1: have no leads on this yet. They do not have
38:33
Speaker 1: a suspect, They don't have anyone that they are looking at.
38:36
Speaker 1: But she has completely managed into thin air. From as
38:40
Speaker 1: everybody has said, you know, the fabulous sorties and sacrament
38:43
Speaker 1: of the state capital of California. There couldn't be more
38:45
Speaker 1: police teams in this city. That brings up a good point.
38:49
Speaker 1: Charles Hammick is joining me. Aris's dad. What are police
38:52
Speaker 1: telling you? First of all, I don't like what they
38:55
Speaker 1: said when they showed up. They just seemed to think
38:59
Speaker 1: that she just kind of wandered off on her own.
39:02
Speaker 1: I mean, what has their attitude being? What are they
39:04
Speaker 1: telling you? Thankfully, I think their perspective on this has changed,
39:08
Speaker 1: Nancy over the past twenty four to forty eight hours,
39:11
Speaker 1: A lot of it. Thankful to d and her help
39:14
Speaker 1: just simply by talking with them and questioning them relative
39:18
Speaker 1: to all the information we've been able to put together.
39:22
Speaker 1: Right now, they have a detective assigned to the case.
39:25
Speaker 1: They are considering her a missing person. Wait, they didn't
39:28
Speaker 1: already consider her a missing person. They considered her a
39:31
Speaker 1: missing person. They shared with us initially when we contacted
39:36
Speaker 1: them and spoke with them Friday night Saturday morning, that
39:39
Speaker 1: they were putting it in as a missing person case.
39:42
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until yesterday that a detective was assigned
39:45
Speaker 1: to the case and that we met with a detective
39:48
Speaker 1: and turned over her laptop and her phone for them
39:52
Speaker 1: to do forensics. Song. Well, I'll be blunt d Ingram.
39:54
Speaker 1: I mean, it's December thirteen. We've lost four days, lost
40:01
Speaker 1: a lot of time we did, and we've had tips. Um,
40:04
Speaker 1: we've had several in the last twenty four hours. Well,
40:07
Speaker 1: the first one that came in, I guess was last
40:09
Speaker 1: night and basically they said that on Friday night, Um,
40:13
Speaker 1: somebody in I believe it was Modesto. Um, actually it
40:17
Speaker 1: was Natomas Um that someone said that there was a
40:21
Speaker 1: white van parked in the parking lot and next to
40:23
Speaker 1: her car. Um being a female. She's like, that's odd,
40:27
Speaker 1: that kind of scary. So she had someone at at
40:29
Speaker 1: the store that she was in walk her out to
40:32
Speaker 1: her car. Well, there was supposedly a sighting of Eiris
40:36
Speaker 1: and Charles can tell you more about that, and that
40:39
Speaker 1: was near Na Thomas, which is right outside of the
40:41
Speaker 1: area where we think she disappeared. Secondly, as of last night, UM,
40:47
Speaker 1: there was a Facebook feed that someone took a screenshot
40:51
Speaker 1: of and sent to the Hammocks that said that they
40:54
Speaker 1: saw Eris. They're sure they saw Ris in Modesto UM
40:58
Speaker 1: near mckinry, and that she was in a ros store.
41:02
Speaker 1: That's all we have, and that she actually got into
41:04
Speaker 1: a green sub These are things that the share of
41:07
Speaker 1: the Brief Department has not been told. I don't believe.
41:11
Speaker 1: I think Leilani said that she's sending all of this
41:13
Speaker 1: to zach PD so that they would obtain some video
41:17
Speaker 1: so we can confirm whether it was their US or not,
41:19
Speaker 1: and we haven't heard anything back. I just want to
41:21
Speaker 1: put this out there, Charles, and I think d Ingram
41:25
Speaker 1: is going to be able to help you do this.
41:28
Speaker 1: I would immediately start a website where people can and
41:33
Speaker 1: you can see how they're doing it in the Idaho
41:35
Speaker 1: students like the FBI has set up a tip a
41:40
Speaker 1: video tip site where people that have pictures or think
41:46
Speaker 1: they have pictures they can email, they can write in tips,
41:51
Speaker 1: and they can upload any picture or video. Tell me
41:56
Speaker 1: about the search effort, Charles, what are you guys doing.
41:59
Speaker 1: We're doing all things. First, we're canvassing the area, speaking
42:03
Speaker 1: with any residence in that area that Aris was last seen,
42:08
Speaker 1: talking to them, sharing her information flyers of course you
42:12
Speaker 1: put up flyers, yeah, and also asking them if they
42:15
Speaker 1: happen to have any video during that time frame between
42:19
Speaker 1: when we know Aris arrived in that area until the
42:23
Speaker 1: time that we arrived in the area and found the vehicle.
42:26
Speaker 1: And why is it after you saw the video, you're convinced, Charles,
42:29
Speaker 1: that she was looking for someone or some address. We
42:33
Speaker 1: know that we have the address that was plugged into
42:35
Speaker 1: her phone, into her mapsap on her phone that leads
42:39
Speaker 1: to that empty lot. We have video surveillance that shows
42:43
Speaker 1: her walking back and forth this alley next to where
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Speaker 1: her vehicle is parked, looking as if she's speaking with
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Speaker 1: somebody and pacing back and forth with some sense of urgency.
42:54
Speaker 1: We also know from one of the residents in the
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Speaker 1: area who said he spoke with Eiris that she was
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Speaker 1: looking for someone by the name of Chris, that she
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Speaker 1: was trying to find this address that did not exist,
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Speaker 1: and she seemed to be very agitated. The other thing, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: that we're very concerned by, and we don't know with
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Speaker 1: how much credibility there is with this, as we've canvassed
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Speaker 1: the area and as there's several many transients I should
43:26
Speaker 1: say they're in that area, we shared with them the
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Speaker 1: flyers see if they may have seen her at all
43:33
Speaker 1: during that time frame, and one of the transients that
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Speaker 1: we spoke with on Saturday indicated that Friday night they
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Speaker 1: asked them at about ten pm that they had Sawiris
43:46
Speaker 1: and they described Arris fairly well. Well, we didn't have
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Speaker 1: flyers at this time, so she seemed to validate Aris's
43:52
Speaker 1: appearance as well as Airis's general demeanor with my wife
43:57
Speaker 1: that Aris approached her, she spoke with Aris briefly, and
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Speaker 1: that a white van had come by them and that
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Speaker 1: Airis was taken. Now, again, we don't have any evidence
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Speaker 1: of that so far other than that witness statement. We've
44:19
Speaker 1: shared that information with the police as well as the
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Speaker 1: name of the transient and a description of the transient
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Speaker 1: to try and get more information. You know what, Charles,
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Speaker 1: I find it really hard to believe that in this
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Speaker 1: area of the fab forty Christmas tour, all these mansions
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Speaker 1: are decked out and that you know ice cream shop
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Speaker 1: that is a destination that there is not video camera
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Speaker 1: surveillance not only of Aris, but the possible white van
44:53
Speaker 1: you're talking about. The white van that he's talking about
44:56
Speaker 1: basically was not in that court where car was. The
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Speaker 1: white van was supposedly spotted underneath the underpass that that
45:06
Speaker 1: that they could area leads to. So it's under the
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Speaker 1: freeway and I've looked in that area. I've approached some
45:12
Speaker 1: of the houses there. There's no camera footage from that
45:15
Speaker 1: underpass where the van supposedly was seen. And nand this
45:18
Speaker 1: is Alexis, can I jump in? Yeah? So when I
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Speaker 1: spoke with the detective yesterday, there had also been a
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Speaker 1: tip that she had been taken by somebody and that
45:28
Speaker 1: that person was living in a trailer under a bridge,
45:31
Speaker 1: and the police said that they investigated this. They went
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Speaker 1: down there, they made contact with a person, but there
45:37
Speaker 1: was no no signs of airis or anything like that,
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Speaker 1: so they had followed up with one tip to Charles Hammock.
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Speaker 1: What is your message to Airis, Airis and anyone listening
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Speaker 1: right now everyone in the world. Um, we love as
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Speaker 1: we hope that you're safe. If you would please contact
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Speaker 1: you know, anyone to get information to the Sacramento Police
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Speaker 1: Department or US at home to let us know that
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Speaker 1: you're safe. We want you to come back home and
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Speaker 1: we will do anything that we can and move heaven
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Speaker 1: and earth to sit there and help you come home safely. Eiris,
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Speaker 1: We love him, miss you. We are praying for a
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Speaker 1: Christmas miracle. Help us. The tip line is nine one
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Speaker 1: six eight zero eight five four seven one. You hear
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Speaker 1: Airis's father begging for your help. Nine six eight zero
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Speaker 1: eight five four seven one. Goodbye friend,