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Brett Keane Show | @Lucifer-LeGivorden Haunting Spirits, Hell Ghost, Fantasy Reality, Human Steak · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Oh wow. Look at separating from itself.
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  sort of What is that like some sort of like pulse energy or
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  something like? minutes
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  here purificates of the clouds does
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  it flies it amazing in? connection with the Jewish
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  question I have this to say Is a shameful spectacle to see how
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  the whole Democratic world is oozing Sympathy for the poor
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  tormented Jewish people but remains hard-hearted and
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  obturate when it comes to helping them which is surely in
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  view of its attitude an obvious Duty the arguments that are
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  brought up as an excuse for not helping them actually speak for
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  us Germans and Italians for this is what they say one.
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  We that is the democracies are not in a position to take in the
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  Jews. Yet in these Empires.
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  There are not 10 people to the square kilometer while Germany
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  with her 135 inhabitants to the square kilometer is supposed to
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  have room for them. Two they assure us.
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  We cannot take them unless Germany is prepared to allow
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  them a certain amount of capital to bring with them as immigrants
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  for hundreds of years. Germany was good enough to
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  receive these elements. Although they possessed nothing
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  except infectious political and physical diseases.
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  What they possess today. They have by a very large extent
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  gained at the cost of the Lesser stew German Nation by the most
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  reprehensible manipulations. people what it deserves When the
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  German nation was thanks to the inflation instigated and carried
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  through by Jews deprived of the entire savings which it had
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  accumulated in years of honest work when the rest of the world
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  took away the German Nations foreign investments when we were
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  divested of the whole of our Colonial possessions these
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  philanthropic considerations evidently carried little
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  noticeable weight with Democratic statements today.
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  I can only assure these gentlemen that thanks to the
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  brutal education with which the democracies favored us for 15
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  years. We are completely hardened to
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  all attacks of sentiment. After more than 800,000 Children
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  Of The Nation had died of hunger and undernourishment at the
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  close of the war. We witnessed almost 1 million
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  head of milking cows being driven away from us in
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  accordance with the cruel paragraphs of a dictate which
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  the Humane Democratic Apostles of the world forced upon us as a
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  peace treaty. We witnessed over 1 million
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  German prisoners of War being retained in confinement for no
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  reason at the war was ended we've witnessed over one and a
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  half million Germans being torn away from all that they
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  possessed in the territories lying on our Frontiers and being
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  whipped out with practically only what they wore on their
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  backs. We had to endure having millions
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  of our fellow countrymen torn from us without their consent.
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  And without there being afforded the slightest possibility of
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  existence. I could supplement these
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  examples with dozens of the most cruel kind for this reason.
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  We asked to be spared all sentimental talk the German
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  Nation does not wish its interest to be determined and
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  controlled by any foreign nation France to the French England to
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  the English America to the Americans and Germany to the
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  Germans. We are resolved to prevent the
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  settlement in our country of a strange people which was capable
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  of snatching for itself all the leading positions in the land
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  and to oust it for it is our to educate our own Nation for these
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  leading positions. We have hundreds of thousands of
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  very intelligent children of peasants and of the working
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  classes. here you see
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  here here you
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  here here
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  Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett
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  Keane and you're watching listening to the brat Keane show
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  and with me is my co-host those suffer.
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  How you doing, man? I'm doing good.
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  How you doing? Just chilling.
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  Just chilling. I am my wife making some my pork
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  roast a pig's butter something like that.
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  It was sounds good. Sounds good, but I think I got
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  your beater earlier. I was outside grilling doing up
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  some hot dogs some burgers and everything else.
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  That's good stuff. Yeah, he sent me pictures.
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  I didn't have my food just yet. I was feeling tummy pains.
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  I like damn. I need some of that.
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  Yeah. Oh been quite a week.
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  We took about a week off. I think I know you were off and
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  on but I was like screwed. I'm taking a week off of doing
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  anything online. Really.
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  Yeah, I tried to try to have a test.
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  I wanted to see if the time zone was different during the day and
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  I got some people but I did notice that if I don't do at
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  least 15 minutes worth of some kind of intro it takes 20
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  minutes like before in order to get any get any people out there
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  waiting. Yeah.
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  Yeah, that's usually how it is. When I do live streams and
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  everything like for our rituals. We usually give people about a
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  15 minute lead into our main thing or give them time to come
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  into the room and see everything and gives us time to talk to
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  what we got some of SGS members out in the audience as well as
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  some other Interesting people. Hi Tiffany, how you doing?
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  It's good to see you. I'm glad you could join us.
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  She is a one of our one of my friends over from Facebook and
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  sweet woman. She might want to jump onto the
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  show. So if you want to tell people
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  Brett on how they can join us if you want them assuming we know
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  them. Are ahead as long as we know you
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  and we've interacted with you and you showed that you have an
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  IQ over five or at least out of a banana.
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  You are welcome to come in There's the link out there.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, if I don't know who you are.
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  I will ask Lucifer if he recognizes name.
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  He doesn't then that's it, you know get to play.
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  Oh one other thing too. We have one simple rule.
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  Here it is. Let's take a look.
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  How you even got a science draft here for those out there who may
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  not just catch the words. What's the say Mr. Lucifer?
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  Oh fuck around find out. There you go.
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  And it was even a picture was drawn for those who might not be
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  able to see very well. Yeah, you know, we get a lot of
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  people on this show with the IQ of below that of a gerbil, um,
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  pretty sure that's actually giving them too much I would say
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  they would have an IQ more around the sides of turn up. but
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  you know, if you if you have an IQ greater than a turn up maybe
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  even greater than a gerbil or more than welcome on the show.
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  Good evening. Fellas.
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  How you all doing this evening? Hey, how you doing doing?
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  Good. I just finally got my clothing.
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  Hope at the mail today. Oh, yeah latest issue of the
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  cloven hook folks. You can find this linked over on
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  our Our website so we produce this for STS and yeah.
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  Join us a little bit about the story.
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  You know, right? Well, okay the story you minutes
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  black metal or take your meds more.
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  All right. So the story in the history of
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  the book. The cloven hook the clothing
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  Hook was a magazine originally founded and created by Anton
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  LaVey for the original Church Satan and they did away with it
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  over 20 years ago where they said?
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  No, we're not gonna produce it anymore.
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  And this is when Peter Gilmore started coming in and they don't
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  want to produce any of the back issues for well.
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  We did our research on it. We realize hey, we can actually
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  bring this magazine back and we can do it legally as long as
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  we're careful and we get so so now we control the club and hope
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  you're next. Yes, and I publish it quarterly.
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  Why did Mr. Gilmore want to get rid of such an important piece
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  of literature for? Magazine allowed very satanists
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  who were members of the church to interact to produce content
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  and write articles colleague. Could you please go lay down
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  quick leaning on me? She's she's buttering me up
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  because she had to go to the vet today and get shots.
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  And now she's looking at me. I said the bad word that since
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  shots, but it with them producing it if they had if they
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  had continued to produce it. They would have had the
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  responsibility of producing back issues which some of these back
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  issues stated a few things that ran contrary to what Mr. Gilmore
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  likes to promote. I am we've seen some of the
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  stuff we've shown it here on the show in the past where Anton
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  LaVey flat out said he was not and it's all pretty funny stuff.
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  So yeah. Yeah, fair enough.
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  You had said something interesting now Paul Gilmore he
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  ends up taking over and here Peter kill more and he was an
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  atheist and wanted to get rid of anything that had to do with
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  theistic Satanism. Why would he do that?
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  There were so many atheist organizations out there.
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  Why hijacks Satanism for I honestly don't know.
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  I really don't know. I don't understand it.
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  Um Antonio they even mentions atheists doing this in the
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  Satanic Bible. He meant there's a the one time
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  in this tank Bible. He talks about atheism.
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  He calls them Christian atheists and no one really understands
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  what was going on there or why but yeah.
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  That it was the one time he mentioned it in the static
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  Bible. I've shown on our shows in the
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  past that out of five books. Only two of his books actually
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  has him talking about atheism and he never called Satanism
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  atheism. And this was the he has actually
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  sort of I don't even think he realized what he was on to
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  there. But he mentioned that they
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  called themselves Christian atheist, which was a complete
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  contradiction. and so, you know, my assumption is and Brett you
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  being a former atheist might be able to fill in the gaps or
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  verify or just confirm or disprove this or not.
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  My assumption is that atheists for whatever reason choose to
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  infiltrate various religions to subvert their doctrines and to
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  try to make all with a desire making whatever religion that
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  their infiltrating into in atheistic religion to kill
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  religion or belief. Yeah, it seems to me that the
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  only thing I can think of why they would want to hijack
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  Satanism. Is it in a way although it's you
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  know, some people would say it's the opposite spectrum of
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  Christianity or against it or anti-christianity.
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  Some may say that I know I know that's not what anti-- Anton was
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  pushing forth, but it promotes the idea of the Satan is real
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  and then doing so it also says God is real as well.
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  So to them it's another part of Christianity and they want to
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  destroy Christianity and anything it promotes the concept
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  of God or Devils or Supernatural.
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  Yeah, yeah, um that that sounds about right.
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  I mean you can't you can't have faith in Satan without saying
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  that God's real it Christians have said this numerous times
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  before and even us in a theistic safe the satanic but we says the
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  same thing, you know you have in their economy their Union Yang
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  whether you like God or not, you know, if you're gonna believe in
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  Satan as being a real entity in any capacity, you've got to give
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  the Christian God has do whether you see him as a good guy or a
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  bad guy. form benevolent right malevolent benevolent, however,
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  you want It looks like Tiffany wants to try to come in go down
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  into the description. Underneath the video Tiff and
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  you are going to scroll down actually.
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  Let me go ahead let me I'm gonna take the authenticator off all
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  she has to do is click the link now and then should be able to
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  get in. If we get any bad people though,
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  and I end up Banning somebody then it'll it'll turn back on
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  the authenticator. I'm ready for it.
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  Honestly for people. All right, so you can see the
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  link that Brett put up but I'm gonna quickly share my screen so
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  people can actually see and I will point to where you can go.
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  Again, if we know you you can click this link and it'll bring
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  you in. Okay, so this is the description
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  for the show right now. Click this link and it'll bring
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  you right in. I thought I had removed it.
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  Goodness gracious. Yeah for it and it's like where
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  to gone. Yeah, you must have the Page
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  open before it was refreshed you and I had talked about making
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  sure that we set some boundaries down on who we allow in and all
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  that and I thought the best way for us to be able to handle that
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  was give it out very generally not not just have 20.
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  Yeah. Oh we were you know, like you
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  said we were getting too many rip too many people were coming
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  in. They're just Riff Raff.
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  They were causing problems trying to troll here.
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  She is going to go ahead and add her to the stage right for the
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  new audience. Let's begin.
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  All right. Well, hello.
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  Hi guys. Hi brothers.
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  Are you guys doing? Oh, we're doing pretty good.
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  We're doing pretty good. Glad to have you nice to meet
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  you. Always a bit of a tradition
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  around here. Tell us a little bit about
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  yourself. Um, well, I'm an Eclectic gray
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  witch mostly, you know lhp but just like what you were saying I
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  feel That it's really important to have balance and I'm a you
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  know, a very big believer in Duality, you know.
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  I'm a hereditary witch, you know I come from a long line, but
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  then on the other side of my family are Christians.
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  Like die hard Christians and I got sent to all girls catholic
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  boarding school and the whole nine so fun.
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  Well, that's got to be really fun to enjoy.
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  I mean I was The Devout Catholic you guys I'm not gonna lie.
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  I was a child. I was 12, you know, and when
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  everybody else was at lunch, I was in Mass with the sisters
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  every day praying and praying and praying to the abrahamic
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  God, you know, I had a lot of pain and depression and I wanted
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  answers. You know and everyone told me
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  well if you pray you'll get the answers that you seek.
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  But that's not necessarily what happened, you know.
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  We all it's a bit of a trial by fire here.
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  So just gonna go through it. What led you away from
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  Christianity? honestly my real biological
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  father I didn't find him till I was 36. and when I found him he
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  came to my house and he wouldn't cross the threshold of my house,
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  which I found interesting because I had a lot of things to
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  keep anybody that might do me harm out of my house.
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  And he saw all my alters and all my books and everything and he
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  was like, oh mija if you want me to be in your life and you want
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  me to be your father. You have to renounce all of
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  this. You have to get married to the
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  person that you're with. And I won't be able to step foot
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  in your house until you do all of these things.
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  So he was asking you to renounce Christianity or paganism
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  paganism Satanism being a witch, you know everything. had grown
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  up with he wanted me to even take all the books out of my
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  house. He thought he told me I was evil
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  and that I was possessed. So what led you to that point?
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  I mean, I know you said your father was what led you away
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  from Christianity, but it sounds like you were already moving
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  away from that. I yeah, I was already completely
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  a witch when I got out of Catholic school.
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  I started seeing a lot of Dichotomy and contradictions
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  things that didn't make sense to me, you know, and one of the
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  sister Bridget was like probably my favorite person at that
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  school and she was our religious studies teacher.
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  And one day she took me aside and she goes, you know, you have
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  too many questions. You ask too many questions.
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  And I appreciate your inquisitive mind.
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  I appreciate you wanting to know the answer she goes but you have
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  to accept that in life. Sometimes there won't be
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  answers. Okay Gypsy.
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  I'm gonna ask you to pause for a minute.
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  I was gonna say Brett. Do you recognize this fellow?
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  I do he's a hater he went by. Okay.
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  You know haters sorry for those wanting to try to join us unless
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  we know you unless we can confirm you you're not getting
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  on the show. Love that coffee mug, by the
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  way. Oh, thank you.
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  All right. So you were already well on your
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  path to occultism and paganism. by the time this by time your
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  father showed up at your doorstep and he wouldn't even
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  come into your house, right and How did that make feel?
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  It's hard to. go there because it makes me want to cry. and I
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  get so confused. because My dad, my dad is a good person.
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  You know, he's I know he's a good person but by his own
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  teachings and by his he has to Hate You by his own teachings.
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  Right and I get confused by that because I said a real from what
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  I understand God, you know from the abrahamic god.
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  It's not that way, you know Dad and I said I thought Jesus was
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  supposed to love everyone and Jesus spent his time with
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  prostitutes and lepers and gamblers and addicts and he
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  never even the possessed exactly and he never turned his back on
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  them or gave up on them. And to me that's a true
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  Christian. I have friends that are
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  Christians that I consider a true Christian.
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  You know what I mean? Yeah a real Christian is to me
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  is someone that doesn't judge and loves you no matter what and
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  so I'm confused to my dad because I said dad, didn't you
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  tell me that your God will judge you how you judge others?
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  Yeah. And so will your God judge you
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  the way you judge me? It seems like we get judged by
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  people who want from atheists to other occultists who think that
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  they're better and you and I were chatting really quickly on
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  Facebook just for the show and everything.
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  Can you tell us about what happened?
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  You got banned from Facebook for a while.
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  Can you tell us what happened? Oh this happens all the time.
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  They can my mom got. banned to the that said the black goat not
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  the black sheep. And they banned her if we post
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  anything satanic. Or anything.
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  Um, even in that realm we'll get reported in band.
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  This messed up because there is a large left-hand path community
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  on Facebook. There's people out there who
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  post some really raunchy shit and they get away with it.
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  How is it the true getting banned for posting just a little
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  thing of a black goat? I believe that um, these bands
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  happen Facebook doesn't have the amount of people that it needs
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  to keep track of everything. So they use Bots, right?
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  So anytime someone gets reported.
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  It changes the algorithm and they are put in another category
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  where they're constantly run through keywords.
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  So it's not they're not even actually looking at the post.
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  They're not even actually knowing if it really did violate
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  Community standards. It's just keywords like so
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  black, you know, seeing the word black they immediately think oh
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  black face or it's racist or something like that.
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  That's that's pretty messed up that you know that really, you
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  know, and yet though they'll sit there and though allow people to
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  call other people who are completely innocent not sees or
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  they'll post like have you seen that ad for that new movie
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  that's coming out that it's it's the what is it?
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  It's the order of I'm not even gonna I can't even say the word
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  on. YouTube because we'll get hit
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  but it is a very not so nice word for a black person.
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  Oh, yes the magical order of Ends, right?
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  And yet they allow that. And it's a completely anti-white
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  movie. It's completely insulted and yet
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  if we if we were to post something like that.
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  We would we would get slammed all over the place.
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  Um, if you're backlight there is sort of blinding.
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  Oh, I'm sorry. That's my it's a window.
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  It's not a problem. It's my screen door.
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  I love your wall. Can you show us a little bit the
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  walls look pretty badass indeed. That's pretty cool.
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  I'm loving that that is really really awesome.
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  That's a type of house. Like I would like to have so I
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  have to ask what is a gray witch. so a gray Witch is
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  someone that works with both path RH P.
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  I don't just work on the lhp the left hand path.
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  I work with RHP as well. And just clarify RHP is right
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  hand path, which is white light magic.
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  That's what you find most druidry Wicca and even
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  Christianity in left hand path is dark magic satanism.
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  Loosepherianism and as well as Voodoo vudan hoodoo Santeria as
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  well as many other different civil paths.
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  So just so people can understand what she's trying to say here.
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  Can it causes you trying to do both paths?
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  Um, I don't think so be in fact I found.
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  I got. Way done and achieved more and
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  believe in myself more when I have balance because if you
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  apply it like this nobody in this world.
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  I don't know about you guys, but I've never met anybody that's
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  100% good or a hundred percent bad.
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  Have you guys? No, you're a you're doing it the
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  right way most practitioners? I've known heck even my girly
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  Diana. She flat out says she's a gray
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  witch as well and it magic it's neutral.
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  It really doesn't give a shit. It's all dependent on the user
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  in my opinion and the intent to the user.
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  So yeah, I think you're when you said you're a great which I was
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  like right on. Lucifer you know what Bruce
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  Campbell would say in this situation good bad.
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  I'm the guy with the gun. Right.
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  I'm the guy with the gun. Yep, groovy. you just brought
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  that up because everyone this week has been talking about guns
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  and they I keep getting asked this question.
• 34:44
  Like what do you think about guns?
• 34:48
  And back in the day. I used to be completely against
• 34:50
  guns. Because of Sarah Winchester and
• 34:55
  the messages that she shared from the dead because I am a
• 34:58
  medium as well and I work with the dead and have heard very bad
• 35:03
  things from the dead about weapons.
• 35:05
  But as I grew up I noticed it's not the weapon that kills
• 35:12
  people. It's other people that kill
• 35:15
  people and just like what you were talking about.
• 35:18
  It's the intention and I think that carries over like into
• 35:22
  everything that we do in life. And if you have an intent to go
• 35:26
  hurt someone you don't need a gun you could have anything
• 35:30
  You're gonna hurt them, you know what I mean whether you have it
• 35:33
  or not. All these people are like, oh
• 35:35
  well over in Australia. They completely took guns away.
• 35:39
  And so now we have less violence and a lower crime rate, you
• 35:46
  know. Okay, I could see that but I
• 35:49
  also Australians are weird. Anyways, though.
• 35:53
  I don't find it weird though Gypsy and Lucifer that the
• 35:58
  Democrats want to take away guns.
• 36:00
  They say they're dangerous yet. They want billions and trillions
• 36:03
  of dollars to send guns over to the Ukraine.
• 36:07
  So I mean all of a sudden gun control doesn't matter put all
• 36:12
  the money you can and to it and number two.
• 36:14
  I don't know if you both knew this but every atheist dictator
• 36:18
  government, they removed guns and the civilization was left
• 36:23
  defenseless and vulnerable, you know, also, you know, the UK has
• 36:29
  some of the strictest gun laws in the world.
• 36:32
  I mean even stricter than Australia Australia is pretty
• 36:35
  straight, but the UK is even stricter now they do allow guns
• 36:39
  in the UK, but the knife violence in the UK is through
• 36:44
  the roof, you take all the gun violence that they report in
• 36:48
  America and boom a it's just as bad.
• 36:53
  Violence in the UK. My dad was from Glasgow.
• 36:59
  I could see that. My best friend lives there.
• 37:05
  Just really doesn't matter. It just matters like what you
• 37:09
  were just saying about them taking the guns away.
• 37:11
  It's because they don't want people to be able to
• 37:14
  revolutionize I think and and you know come together and fight
• 37:19
  whatever they don't agree with or whatever laws are being
• 37:23
  pushed upon you that you want to fight against you know what I
• 37:27
  mean? They don't want us to be able to
• 37:29
  protect ourselves. Exactly, and that's what
• 37:33
  happened to the other civilizations.
• 37:35
  They were left vulnerable. They had everything taken from
• 37:38
  them and then they were murdered and some of them died from the
• 37:42
  outcome of War. Yep, and you know, that's one of
• 37:46
  the things that really stopped to Mainland Invasion during
• 37:50
  World War Two. We had some minor skirmishes
• 37:53
  with the Japanese in Alaska after Pearl Harbor.
• 37:58
  Excuse me, and but when Pearl Harbor happened just before it
• 38:06
  happened and this has been mentioned numerous numerous
• 38:08
  movies that many of the Japanese Admirals that were part of it.
• 38:13
  They did not want to hit Pearl Harbor because they didn't want
• 38:15
  to wake the sleeping giant as they called America back then
• 38:20
  and there's a famous quote from a Japanese ad and all forget who
• 38:25
  he was but he said that we will never be able to invade Mainland
• 38:32
  America because behind every blade of grass.
• 38:37
  It's a gun. Oh, yeah.
• 38:44
  Stupid what are you doing? It's not just that loose for but
• 38:47
  also the issue was is that they were actually talking to America
• 38:51
  while this was going on about peace treaties and working
• 38:55
  things out so they had us convinced.
• 38:57
  They were ready to shake hands and get along next thing.
• 39:00
  We know are people are flying in the air and pieces are going
• 39:03
  everywhere. Yeah, they did Pearl Harbor and
• 39:06
  that was it. You know, I don't know people
• 39:09
  are have watched it but there's a show called Band of Brothers.
• 39:13
  Well, it's a great show. It talks about our you know,
• 39:17
  push in the European front against not the Nazi party and
• 39:25
  Nazi Germany, but there's a sequel to that show and it's
• 39:29
  just as good and it's called the Pacific and I had encourage
• 39:34
  anybody who loves Band of Brothers to go watch specific if
• 39:38
  they have not done so already and your you will see just how
• 39:45
  intense the fighting. in the Pacific front it was I love the
• 39:53
  way he decorates your place. That's all you guys I'll be
• 39:56
  right. All right.
• 39:57
  I love the decoration. You got going I meant to like
• 40:00
  the decoration is really cool. Yeah, like one the games like to
• 40:04
  play is Call of Duty World of War.
• 40:06
  There's the part where you play as the American Soldier invading
• 40:09
  one the Japanese Islands love that part of the game.
• 40:13
  So you you were saying earlier that you'd gotten out a
• 40:18
  Christianity my interest though is I can completely understand
• 40:22
  why people get to the point where they're sick and by
• 40:25
  religion sometimes religion can be very poisonous.
• 40:27
  But did you give up on the concept of God though, you know,
• 40:32
  did you throw out the whole baby with the bathwater to keep some
• 40:36
  kind of higher power in your view?
• 40:40
  Well, that's interesting you say that because I believe that it's
• 40:46
  essential to believe in something greater than yourself
• 40:50
  to release you from the triangle of self-obsession, you know that
• 40:55
  comes from probably my recovery. I've been clean and sober for 23
• 41:00
  years and I was a drug counselor and they always talk about
• 41:04
  releasing yourself from the triangle of self Obsession.
• 41:07
  And if you can get out of this it's all about me and believe in
• 41:14
  something greater than yourself which they say it could be
• 41:17
  anything. You could choose anything just
• 41:20
  believe that something is greater than you that's the only
• 41:24
  thought that you have to have so that you're not egocentric, you
• 41:29
  know what I mean in all your thought processes.
• 41:32
  And it's interesting because I have a goddess.
• 41:35
  I'm a lithium. So I my god or goddess is
• 41:41
  Lilith. And she's who I serve who I pray
• 41:45
  to who I worship, you know, my altar.
• 41:50
  I don't know if you guys can see it.
• 41:54
  That's my oh that's my little is actually really cool.
• 41:56
  I my altar it has both Cthulhu and Baphomet.
• 42:01
  Oh, I like that brother. Interesting.
• 42:04
  So when and of course everybody seen my altar.
• 42:07
  Yeah, I see him many times. I always do rituals with with
• 42:12
  you live. Well not on here when you do
• 42:17
  Your wife sorry guys. What if That's your alter when
• 42:21
  you and your wife do the rituals.
• 42:23
  Yeah, that's our ritual chamber. Oh, that's awesome.
• 42:27
  Okay. Yeah, we have an entire room
• 42:29
  dedicated to it. beautiful I have kind of a small house, but
• 42:34
  I would be where you're at if I had a room.
• 42:37
  Where you located at? Uh, San Diego, California.
• 42:41
  Oh wow. So you're you're all the way on
• 42:45
  the other side of the country from us?
• 42:46
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:47
  I'm just up north in like one of the coldest state.
• 42:52
  Dakota Minnesota, okay. I was like I was gonna guess,
• 42:57
  Minnesota or North Dakota. I know they say that they're the
• 43:02
  coldest the coldest state. Have you so you're in San Diego?
• 43:08
  Did you ever go up and do anything with Sharon and Stanton
• 43:11
  when they were doing things at their place?
• 43:15
  I was invited and like Stanton is one of my Facebook friends
• 43:22
  and everything, but I didn't go because I was kind of in the
• 43:27
  middle of being a drug addict. Got you.
• 43:32
  Got you. Got you and you know.
• 43:35
  Stanton was recovering at the time.
• 43:37
  Yeah. I had to kind of stay awake
• 43:41
  because my first like intro when I was 14 was a Levan Satanist
• 43:48
  and he gave me the Satanic Bible and everything like that.
• 43:52
  So I was you know into Levan satanism.
• 43:56
  A lot but I think theistic Satanism kind of appeals to me a
• 44:01
  little bit more. Just because I have a differing
• 44:06
  view. I feel that a lot of people
• 44:08
  didn't hear what Anton was saying that he loved the
• 44:14
  theatrics. He loved to be the opposite.
• 44:17
  It had nothing to do with whether he believed in an actual
• 44:22
  entity the I feel like he was more.
• 44:26
  Like TST minded in a way not exactly.
• 44:29
  I'm gonna stop you there. We have actually shown on our
• 44:34
  channels here. I don't know if you've seen some
• 44:36
  of our live streams Antoine levay was 100% theistic.
• 44:41
  Really? Really one Yes.
• 44:44
  Actually he actually went on the Joe Pine show looked dead at the
• 44:49
  camera said certainly I believe God exists.
• 44:54
  STS is a theistic lavain organization.
• 44:58
  And we have completely debunked. the the whole thing of what?
• 45:07
  Gilmore has been saying all this atheism crap started with Peter
• 45:12
  Gilmore. Mm-hmm.
• 45:19
  And when I watched that I was like dude this this kind of
• 45:22
  stuff really confusing. because actually a Brett can I go ahead
• 45:27
  and can we show some of what we have on Anton LaVey?
• 45:35
  Do you have any of that stuff up on your thing?
• 45:37
  Well, I got it up on the radio but people are able to watch the
• 45:41
  video on my radio as well because it's an internet radio
• 45:44
  type of deal. Do you want the link to it?
• 45:46
  Sure. Oh, yeah.
• 45:48
  Yeah. I was just let me see can really
• 45:54
  can't link it to mine. Then I do, you know, I've excuse
• 45:59
  me one more minute guys. I'll be right back.
• 46:01
  Okay? All right.
• 46:03
  I'm getting the link. All right.
• 46:06
  Thank you. Oh if there's anybody out there
• 46:11
  listening as well if you've got okay.
• 46:16
  Yeah, so are you guys able to hear me?
• 46:20
  Okay. Yeah, I get here you I was about
• 46:22
  to say one the Lucifer Lake gorvin's book.
• 46:25
  I like to read that actually discuss about that is the
• 46:28
  satanic Testament the fourth edition.
• 46:31
  That actually talks about it very good in-depth about it.
• 46:36
  It's on Amazon for like about 30 bucks.
• 46:39
  Really good. Look how you recommend reading
• 46:41
  that. I will thank you, brother.
• 46:43
  I appreciate that. I don't know what the so what go
• 46:48
  ahead. Sorry under about to say I'm
• 46:51
  actually funny enough. I'm actually 20 years old, but
• 46:53
  even though I look kind of older than I'm actually 20 years old.
• 46:57
  Oh you are young and aren't you? Yeah, I'm not shitting you I'm
• 47:02
  actually 20 but my mindset my mental my mental state is more
• 47:05
  like 25, even though like 20 fucking years old.
• 47:09
  I get it. You're you're an old soul.
• 47:11
  I am an also do I have time to CDs in my collection at vinyls
• 47:16
  mostly metal stuff like black metals like usually my top drawn
• 47:19
  right to listen to but I do always like to listen like death
• 47:22
  metal thrash metal even like rap metal like body count.
• 47:25
  For example. Nice.
• 47:26
  Yeah. I was about to move into my
• 47:29
  room. That's where my altar is and
• 47:31
  fine up. I have to trap that the necklace
• 47:33
  on also the Trap that tapless tree on my for my Altar and all
• 47:37
  the reason why I have a cathouse said she was actually
• 47:39
  representing then just to tell us philosophy cthulhanism.
• 47:44
  So it's pain homage to know HP Lovecraft, but ant holiday, but
• 47:48
  also about to think about getting a set statute for
• 47:51
  Michael Aquino. Representing and telephase
• 47:55
  branches of Satanism that he created right?
• 48:00
  And funny enough. I can't believe I'm actually
• 48:02
  talking more on you because most of the time I'm just quiet as
• 48:05
  fuck. Of course, when did Lucifer like
• 48:07
  orphan say, I need to take my meds?
• 48:10
  It's kind of a runny gay actually because I get a little
• 48:13
  hyper sometime even though I don't have ADHD, but I do have
• 48:16
  Asperger's so I have asked persons.
• 48:19
  So it's sometimes yeah, it's they do kind of intertwine.
• 48:24
  So it kind of gives you like a little bit of ADHD effect.
• 48:26
  So it was really good. It's like hey take your meds.
• 48:29
  It's always been like a runny gag, and I love it.
• 48:32
  I was Finding funny. I'm glad sorry.
• 48:36
  Alright that quotes. My little kitty cat decided that
• 48:39
  she wanted to use restroom and she decided that she didn't want
• 48:43
  to use the puppy pad. We're here's the one that you
• 48:50
  were looking for Mr. Lucifer. There it is.
• 48:53
  I'll put it in private child as well.
• 48:56
  This is the the documentary where he says that he does
• 49:01
  believe in God and the devil and Supernatural.
• 49:04
  Yeah. That's the pine show.
• 49:07
  I can I actually have the video. I'll go ahead and you know what
• 49:12
  Lucifer I get tired of people arguing over.
• 49:16
  That's what annoys me it really is.
• 49:18
  It really is and it seems really agree with that just saying I
• 49:22
  agree. It seems like church Satan.
• 49:24
  All they want to do is pick fights.
• 49:27
  I I have no I have no more tolerance for atheists
• 49:31
  whatsoever. I don't want to deal with him or
• 49:33
  anything like that. I I have zero. tolerance for
• 49:37
  these people because all they seem to be able to do is just
• 49:43
  pick and attack and all sorts of other stupid shit Oh atheists
• 49:52
  like to troll too. Yeah, they do.
• 49:55
  Um, oh, yeah really quickly. You're gonna find this very
• 49:58
  interesting too. Okay, certainly, you're right.
• 50:01
  The concept of God has given the world much beautiful music many
• 50:07
  beautiful works of art and certainly I feel God exists.
• 50:11
  But the name for God of course is different from many different
• 50:16
  people. Yeah, I'm familiar.
• 50:22
  I see what you're saying now, brother.
• 50:24
  Yeah, yeah and sorry about that Brad.
• 50:27
  I realized that I could upload it and it was only 18 seconds.
• 50:31
  You know, that's fine. That's good.
• 50:33
  It's good educational material, right?
• 50:36
  Probably you should probably keep that clip available and
• 50:40
  stuff if you end up getting the conversations with other
• 50:43
  Satanist in the future. Oh, I do I do.
• 50:46
  I have one we're doing things on my channel.
• 50:48
  It's already uploaded and everything.
• 50:51
  And see I don't understand why people have to be egotistical.
• 50:54
  It's like if I can gladly say hey, I'm more of a lithium.
• 51:00
  I know a lot about Lilith, but I don't know as much about.
• 51:05
  Satan because I'm more of a luciferian and I believe they're
• 51:09
  two totally different. you know, they Entity, so I got a question
• 51:15
  for you too. You've following STS in my
• 51:19
  content for a couple years now. Yeah, what do you think of us?
• 51:24
  What I really love about you guys is you don't go out of your
• 51:28
  way. to disparage or put down else And that was one of my
• 51:35
  favorite things. That's why I continued to follow
• 51:37
  you. That's why I really agree with a
• 51:41
  lot of the things that you say you're not trying to validate
• 51:45
  yourself but condescending or you know, like Going I don't
• 51:52
  want to say. Like the wrong word but
• 51:55
  disparaging might be a good word.
• 51:58
  Anyone else. You see what I'm saying?
• 52:00
  Yeah. Yeah, definitely definitely and
• 52:03
  we certainly don't try to do that.
• 52:05
  Unfortunately, we get so many idiots that like the church
• 52:09
  Satan you come at us and right all the nonsense people say all
• 52:13
  the all the stupid shit people say they tried to throw your
• 52:17
  past up against you right? So I just to defame you and we
• 52:23
  don't we don't like to do that to anybody and it's really made
• 52:29
  us very intolerant of dealing with certain people, right?
• 52:34
  And that's sad to say because when we started out we wanted,
• 52:37
  you know, we felt you know dealing with everybody give
• 52:41
  everybody same benefit of the chance.
• 52:43
  And you know, I'm I count myself Fortune because that's how Brett
• 52:48
  and I we met he was going trying to get Church Satan to come on
• 52:53
  to the show and do an interview and they weren't giving him the
• 52:57
  time of day they were doing the normal typical bullshit.
• 52:59
  I was like Yo, dude, they're not gonna give you the time of day
• 53:03
  come talk to me. I'll come on your show and ever
• 53:07
  since then we've been friends. I can't believe That to do that
• 53:10
  too. They here they have options to
• 53:14
  go and say what they want to say.
• 53:17
  They were given a platform and instead they want to condescend.
• 53:22
  I don't understand that. You know, I just it's definitely
• 53:28
  not really the good way to go about.
• 53:33
  And I also feel like we're behaving like the very things
• 53:37
  that we're against when we act that way.
• 53:41
  Is that we really are we really are.
• 53:43
  I mean, I know Michael a queen I was just I've been doing a lot
• 53:46
  of research for new books and everything that I'm working on
• 53:49
  but I was reading a letter that Michael Aquino got from early
• 53:55
  church Satan members that were saying we should not be
• 53:58
  backbiting each other that we need to be better than the
• 54:01
  Christians Christians are always snipping and sniping at each
• 54:04
  other. We should be doing that but yet
• 54:06
  here we are every different group seems to want to do that.
• 54:10
  So we were like a few years gone.
• 54:13
  I mean we were trying to be friendly with all these
• 54:15
  different groups and working with him and every time we turn
• 54:18
  around they were back riding us they were Stabbing Us in the
• 54:22
  back. They were talking shit about us.
• 54:23
  They weren't taken what we were trying to.
• 54:26
  Warn them about seriously and yeah.
• 54:32
  I get we now we don't like to deal with other now.
• 54:36
  We don't work directly with other groups.
• 54:38
  We'll work with individuals. But not other groups.
• 54:42
  I had some religious folks for a while there because I'm a Thea
• 54:46
  say why are you hanging out with Satanist?
• 54:48
  And why do you hang out with pagans and all this one?
• 54:51
  I finally got tired of the bullshit and I just said how
• 54:55
  about this you french kiss me right and the scratch and snap
• 54:58
  fuck out of here. I got tired of here.
• 55:01
  That's funny. Yeah, and I keep on telling him
• 55:07
  he needs to go read the Satanic Bible because a lot of things
• 55:09
  he's been saying reason panic. right They are cast satanic.
• 55:14
  I agree with that. I agree.
• 55:17
  People think if you label yourself as satanic or Satanist
• 55:22
  that you cross some sort of line a line that you can never go
• 55:27
  back. You know what I mean?
• 55:29
  But it's not necessarily the case.
• 55:32
  I've seen many. Have you seen these new people?
• 55:37
  Exclusivarians and ex-sateness on the YouTube and they have
• 55:43
  like a little interview thing like you guys do and they're
• 55:47
  going you guys all need to listen to us.
• 55:50
  You're being deceived. That's it.
• 55:53
  I have you seen this new thing. I can't say that I have I'm not
• 55:58
  surprised by I can't say that I have Adam Warren.
• 56:01
  Yes, you may ask me what a question you'd like.
• 56:06
  That if you want to just ask them in the comment section
• 56:09
  Brett. Do you know who this person is?
• 56:11
  I do know who Adam is 99% of time.
• 56:16
  He's pretty decent you got to get him on a really really rare
• 56:19
  day where he hasn't eaten a good grilled steak, and I want some
• 56:25
  steak right now, honestly. Smallest doing some grilling
• 56:29
  earlier, but it wasn't safe because burgers and dogs.
• 56:31
  I sold like burgers and hot dogs.
• 56:34
  Yeah. Well, it's got to come out here.
• 56:38
  You know, you guys are always welcome to attend one of our
• 56:43
  Gatherings at wall purchase or even Halloween and this year.
• 56:48
  We're doing well purchase up in up in the Ohio area if you want
• 56:54
  to go up there and okay. Yeah, I will definitely will
• 56:56
  save up money and oil. Yeah, um, yes, we do follow the
• 57:02
  ninth satanic statements 11 satanic rules of the earth and
• 57:06
  the nine satanic sins. We also have our own variant
• 57:09
  called The Satanic. lexanicus which is why you can find all
• 57:19
  that on our website. And this book too.
• 57:23
  Yes my book. Which we will be advertising
• 57:26
  here, but I'm sorry. I just I love this book to
• 57:29
  death. Don't do me wrong.
• 57:30
  Okay. Have you read my book?
• 57:34
  Which book do you love to death? Is the satanic Testament?
• 57:39
  Oh my book Yep. This book right here.
• 57:43
  Adam just wrote promoting self-indulgence to embrace
• 57:46
  humans as the most vicious animal and indulge in sins.
• 57:50
  Hey, that sounds a lot like Humanity to me true.
• 57:56
  Yeah, I believe that is. I'm not sure.
• 58:02
  Oh speed Romans. We will be in the Akron area at
• 58:09
  our Grotto house. I know someone who lives in
• 58:13
  Akron and he's a pretty Infamous person.
• 58:19
  His name is Cyrax AKA chance Wilkins. all of them all of them
• 58:28
  how many of the sins do you indulge in there, too?
• 58:34
  It's hard for me because Like I was saying I'm more of a lithium
• 58:40
  I think you weren't in here when I was saying that my God, I
• 58:43
  caught the tail end of that. Yeah.
• 58:44
  Yeah, so we you know the Temple of Lilith are Familiar with that
• 58:51
  brother. I've heard of them.
• 58:53
  I've heard of them. I don't know too much about them
• 58:55
  in STS. We acknowledge all of the Four
• 58:59
  Queens as the rulers of the cupido the second Circle.
• 59:03
  We also acknowledge equity. as the ruler of the first Circle so
• 59:09
  we acknowledge a lot of the a lot of the female aspects just
• 59:17
  as much as we do the male aspects Adam.
• 59:20
  No, we don't do any of that stuff. right No, no, we don't do
• 59:26
  that at all. Yeah, I don't really understand
• 59:29
  why all the sudden Adam and Eve are coming into a lot of
• 59:34
  satanists. Repertoire lately, it's I don't
• 59:39
  know if you guys have noticed this but this is a well.
• 59:41
  It's the 100 years after they got kicked out of the out of the
• 59:46
  garden. They went their own separate
• 59:48
  ways and believe it or not Adam hooked up with went back to
• 59:52
  Lilith and he had a managerie TWA or a hundred years with
• 59:57
  Lilith and Emma and then Eve started dating Lucifer according
• 1:00:02
  to certain dictates that's right.
• 1:00:06
  I've heard that too those wondering why seen all those
• 1:00:11
  images with a woman with a snake around her like that.
• 1:00:14
  I was like, hey, that's Louis. Yeah, that's Lilith.
• 1:00:17
  You'll see that on my page a lot if you friend me. so I might
• 1:00:28
  look that happens to me. I don't know if it happens to
• 1:00:30
  you guys, but I have a mind fuck that happens to me a lot because
• 1:00:34
  I do know the Bible and because I did you know practice
• 1:00:40
  Catholicism when I was young even though my friend was a
• 1:00:43
  witch, you know, um, I had these like two.
• 1:00:48
  Two sides on everything. It's like I had cognitive
• 1:00:53
  dissonance if I would. You know believe something that
• 1:00:57
  one thing thought or something I thought oh, I can't believe both
• 1:01:00
  which is why I like eclectic thought processes because you
• 1:01:05
  can take what serves you and what works for you. and then
• 1:01:11
  leave what doesn't and I just don't understand why other
• 1:01:15
  people have such a vested interest in what I'm doing like
• 1:01:22
  if you want to do what I'm doing cool, but No one is going to be
• 1:01:27
  doing it the same. Yeah, no.
• 1:01:30
  No, it makes sense. And that makes perfect sense.
• 1:01:33
  I mean when we start doing rituals, of course, you know
• 1:01:37
  that I have rituals in this book as well as the black room or the
• 1:01:41
  red grimoire, but what is a ritual outline, you know when
• 1:01:45
  you see it in a book all it is is a basic outline everybody
• 1:01:48
  throws in their own flavor their own style.
• 1:01:51
  The only time you stick to the outline.
• 1:01:55
  As per se as if a you wrote it or be if you're working in a
• 1:02:01
  central system where everybody is supposed to be working
• 1:02:04
  together on the same page outside of that.
• 1:02:08
  Everybody should be doing their own thing and following their
• 1:02:11
  own eclectic. Um, I agree, of course, we had
• 1:02:16
  another question from Adam and he said can you clarify that
• 1:02:20
  part about sins when you say you indulge in sin?
• 1:02:24
  That is what I would think of which sins do you promote?
• 1:02:32
  I'm gonna go ahead and get see, that's where I mean by a mind
• 1:02:40
  fuck because it's like it's a sin we call it the sin because
• 1:02:45
  that's how it's looked at in the Bible and other Church, you know
• 1:02:51
  or religious belief systems, but to me, I don't really See it
• 1:02:56
  that way. It's very difficult for me.
• 1:02:59
  To you know, like tenants or you know, all that kind of thing.
• 1:03:04
  It's like I get having a guideline.
• 1:03:08
  And but I don't necessarily feel that standing in your power or
• 1:03:13
  you know going against someone that is trying to hurt you or
• 1:03:18
  whatever is a sin, you know, like to me murder.
• 1:03:23
  That's a sin. Right all depending on situation
• 1:03:28
  if someone's coming into your house and you're depending your
• 1:03:32
  family or you even yourself I mean here I live in South
• 1:03:35
  Carolina. We have cast Law Doctrine here.
• 1:03:38
  Someone sets one foot on your property and you think of them
• 1:03:41
  as a threat you don't need to give a warning shot.
• 1:03:43
  You can just drop them cold dead.
• 1:03:46
  And that's been told me by a cop no less than a couple weeks ago.
• 1:03:50
  Oh, yeah. Just flat out you you can just
• 1:03:55
  drop them. You know same with your vehicle
• 1:03:59
  your vehicle's considered your domain Your Castle no matter
• 1:04:03
  where you're going. So somebody's trying to break
• 1:04:05
  into your car while you're in it.
• 1:04:07
  You don't need to give them any warnings.
• 1:04:09
  You can do whatever you need to do to defend yourself and that
• 1:04:12
  means you know, you have to drop them dead.
• 1:04:15
  And yeah, that's all. Yeah, and well, that's also
• 1:04:20
  satanic Doctrine right there, you know should a man Smite you
• 1:04:23
  on one cheat smash them and the other kick them hip in time be
• 1:04:27
  as unto a terror. You know, yes well for blowed
• 1:04:30
  you for Doom, you know. Score and woke or whoa.
• 1:04:35
  So yeah. That's just satanic Doctrine.
• 1:04:40
  But when we say sin, of course, we're talking about the seven
• 1:04:45
  deadly sins. You know the it from
• 1:04:49
  Christianity the seven deadly sins is greed wrath lust
• 1:04:55
  gluttony. But what all right are what are
• 1:05:00
  all of them? I can't remember them right off
• 1:05:02
  top my head. pride pride We've got Pride gluttony left Wrath.
• 1:05:10
  That's right. What are we what me military was
• 1:05:15
  rap or is that one? No, don't she's not that would
• 1:05:18
  be counted in with loss. That's the last one.
• 1:05:21
  You know, what was making me think of that.
• 1:05:24
  The the movie Seven. Yeah, well.
• 1:05:29
  Well, all of it, all of its pretty much wrapped around
• 1:05:32
  arrogance and greed but I I think what people out there
• 1:05:36
  wondering is what is the differenceiation if you are
• 1:05:39
  asking a Christian, they would probably see a sin as a direct
• 1:05:43
  Disobedience towards one of God's laws or Commandments
• 1:05:46
  iniquity transgression. So anyway, you guys, you know, I
• 1:05:52
  some as like self motivators. So it's like you until you're
• 1:05:56
  full and content. If you start gaining weight your
• 1:06:00
  own private chicken, you'll go to the gym to get yourself
• 1:06:04
  healthy again, if you're attracted to a beautiful woman.
• 1:06:10
  Oh, yeah, you're you're not you're gonna look and the woman
• 1:06:15
  is going to you know, it's the what was the command to look by
• 1:06:20
  and talk, you know that Anton lave was constantly referencing
• 1:06:23
  in the satanic witch, you know, a woman should dress to a lure.
• 1:06:29
  To her to use her feminine wiles, you know, that's lithium
• 1:06:34
  too Lewiston that as well. Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Oh, yes. Was a seduct trying to eat one
• 1:06:42
  thing. A lot of people don't seem to
• 1:06:43
  understand is when I hear a lot like from tips saying lithium
• 1:06:48
  and of course their referencing Lilith, but a lot of people tend
• 1:06:53
  to forget she has three Sister Wives that come with her after
• 1:06:57
  about mellot, you know, it's just zenium in namah.
• 1:07:01
  You know, there's actually four of them and they're the Four
• 1:07:07
  Queens of sacred prostitution, you know, so yeah, if you don't
• 1:07:11
  mind me asking what is the origin I was not aware that she
• 1:07:15
  had sisters or anything. I got the idea that she was
• 1:07:19
  created alongside man, and then all shit that broke loose.
• 1:07:22
  There's a lot of the only She's the only one.
• 1:07:30
  That's the other the other three were Angels and Demons already.
• 1:07:35
  So there was the pre-existence they already existed before
• 1:07:40
  becoming physical. Yeah, they all married Samuel.
• 1:07:47
  right And what is it when when the the black flame and she
• 1:07:53
  spoke got name and then she trans she flew away and three
• 1:07:59
  angels that Adam turned to guns like the woman you made for me
• 1:08:04
  is left me and you they leave out the whole part.
• 1:08:08
  Well, he raped her and she didn't want to have anything to
• 1:08:11
  do that. She wanted it to be switching
• 1:08:14
  back and forth order. Sometimes he would just take
• 1:08:16
  back and let her do her thing. Wow, or sometimes she would kick
• 1:08:21
  that and let him have his fun but He just he wanted to be in
• 1:08:26
  control all the time, and she was like no.
• 1:08:29
  I'm out. And the way that The Story Goes
• 1:08:35
  is she had I don't know if she had already laid with Demons by
• 1:08:41
  the time the Three Angels had found her or if she was planning
• 1:08:45
  on it, but they found her floating in I believe what would
• 1:08:49
  be considered the Red Sea or notion or something like that
• 1:08:52
  and they you know, they wanted her to come back to Adam.
• 1:08:56
  She's like you guys I going back and any of his children needs to
• 1:09:01
  watch out because I'll go after them cut off his entire
• 1:09:04
  bloodline. And a whole bargain was struck
• 1:09:08
  where if you used the Three Angels names on a talisman?
• 1:09:14
  Over the Cradle of a child before their naming day then
• 1:09:19
  they were safe. But if you didn't then that you
• 1:09:23
  know Lilith and her you know later on the other.
• 1:09:28
  Such by would come in and do their thing and possibly even
• 1:09:33
  kill the child. Right and there's a lot of
• 1:09:37
  argument about it as Jewish folklore in the Zohar this is
• 1:09:44
  what he just said is in there and it's like the Farthest back,
• 1:09:51
  you know thing that they could find other than Mesopotamia and
• 1:09:55
  the alphabet have been Surah, right?
• 1:09:57
  So they're like, oh this must be and then all these Jewish people
• 1:10:02
  are coming saying this is a closed practice.
• 1:10:05
  You cannot worship Lilith that I and That's another thing I don't
• 1:10:11
  agree with because I'm like no and they're and see a lot of
• 1:10:15
  pagans get upset about this because that they're pagan
• 1:10:18
  origins. And so a lot of people argue
• 1:10:21
  about whether Lilith is exclusive to Jewish mysticism,
• 1:10:27
  or if she existed before that and I believe she existed before
• 1:10:32
  that, but I'm not gonna sit there and tell someone else.
• 1:10:34
  Hey, you can't believe that you know what I mean to me that's
• 1:10:38
  ridiculous. Like you can believe whatever
• 1:10:40
  the fuck you want. I'll believe whatever the fuck I
• 1:10:42
  want and let's just be cool. You know, um, Tom Blackwood.
• 1:10:47
  He actually pointed out something that a lot of people
• 1:10:50
  seem to be getting wrong. Excuse me, um that there's an
• 1:10:56
  image of Lilith that goes around where she's holding up two ring
• 1:11:00
  things. She's got Wings.
• 1:11:01
  She's got the quad feet and lions and owls next sort.
• 1:11:05
  That's not actually Lilith. It's it's a Nana or estar or
• 1:11:10
  lamia. Yeah, I believe he said it was
• 1:11:13
  either Ishtar or Anana, okay. And this is according to Tom
• 1:11:18
  Blackwood. Which he knows this shit.
• 1:11:22
  So yeah, I think anybody who knows who Tom Blackwood is he
• 1:11:27
  knows this shit when it comes to Mesopotamian stuff definitely.
• 1:11:32
  Do you like Marquee Williams? Mmm, haven't read anything by
• 1:11:39
  him. I haven't had much of a chance
• 1:11:40
  to read heartily anything in the past few years.
• 1:11:43
  I mean, I've been so busy writing stuff for the hoof or in
• 1:11:47
  my books or whatnot. Honestly, there's stuff that I
• 1:11:51
  want to sit down just to read for shits and giggles.
• 1:11:54
  And I haven't even been able to sit down and get into some the
• 1:11:57
  fantasy books that I would love to read.
• 1:12:00
  Well, if you ever get a chance brother, I'd love to know your
• 1:12:02
  opinion because he's our admin and the temple and he's a close
• 1:12:07
  brother of mine, but he sees things completely different.
• 1:12:10
  He's not a Satanist. He's agnostic cobalist.
• 1:12:13
  Now when you say Temple which which temporary talk about the
• 1:12:17
  Temple of Lilith Okay. Yeah, so he's over there with
• 1:12:21
  us. We were going to try and do a
• 1:12:25
  physical Temple. Okay, we were gonna try and
• 1:12:28
  create a physical Temple and everything fucking just exploded
• 1:12:33
  people start it became a shit show, you know what I mean?
• 1:12:37
  And so, okay. So yeah.
• 1:12:40
  That end the best way that I could say to do that because STS
• 1:12:45
  we have a grotto system. And this is how it works best
• 1:12:49
  people create private ritual Chambers in their homes.
• 1:12:52
  And that is their Temple that they can run a small Covenant
• 1:12:57
  out of Exactly, and that's how it works best and which has been
• 1:13:03
  doing this for thousands of years, you know, so occasionally
• 1:13:08
  you'll get somebody like me with house big enough to have you
• 1:13:12
  know, a full-blown ritual chamber.
• 1:13:15
  Um, but, you know, most of the time that's not always the case
• 1:13:19
  but as yes, what a lot of people don't realize with STS is we are
• 1:13:23
  willing to consult With other people to help them set up their
• 1:13:28
  ritual temples and help them get a small little coven going in
• 1:13:33
  their area or if they want to affiliate with us and become
• 1:13:37
  part of the STS family. They can open up like a grotto
• 1:13:41
  in their, you know, an STS Grotto in their state or maybe
• 1:13:44
  even a covenant in their local area.
• 1:13:47
  So, you know, I got a lot to do. That's awesome.
• 1:13:52
  Because I have a small lithium. Yeah, I didn't know that I could
• 1:13:57
  even be affiliated with anyone. I just was like, how can they're
• 1:14:00
  not be any lithium covens around here.
• 1:14:03
  There was one coven. And it was all like love and
• 1:14:08
  light which is and that's cool. And I was okay with them, but I
• 1:14:13
  was like kind of like is there anything more?
• 1:14:18
  You know what? I mean?
• 1:14:18
  Because it would like they would even working on one of the
• 1:14:23
  things that we we've been wanting to get more women
• 1:14:25
  involved with STS and we have a couple females involved one
• 1:14:30
  Priestess. She's already ordained and
• 1:14:33
  everything. She would she lives out of the
• 1:14:35
  Illinois state area and she's a third degree with us.
• 1:14:41
  So because we do use the degree system, but one of the things
• 1:14:47
  that we've been looking to do is creating sort of like our own
• 1:14:51
  variant of satanic nuns, you know, and they would be
• 1:14:55
  completely in or Babylonian base The Babylon Um, so I mean that's
• 1:15:02
  something that we've been trying to work on so.
• 1:15:05
  And they would be you know, they would literally live together
• 1:15:08
  and they would function and be able to perform certain
• 1:15:12
  functions that are orders need that no one really exists
• 1:15:17
  currently to perform those deeds.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah, that's really cool. I like that.
• 1:15:22
  That's a great idea. So I mean if you want to you
• 1:15:26
  know when we were off there if you want to reach out and we can
• 1:15:28
  talk about that sort of stuff more in depth, you know outside
• 1:15:32
  the public eye. But um, you know, we would be
• 1:15:36
  interested in hearing more about the temple aloth and hearing
• 1:15:40
  what you guys have to say are seeing if anybody is interested
• 1:15:43
  in doing that and taking that stuff.
• 1:15:46
  I'm getting a little bit interested in that.
• 1:15:50
  So tell us more about the temple, although like I want to
• 1:15:53
  learn more about it actually. Oh, we have our coven Master for
• 1:15:59
  here in South Carolina. Zagan Rex.
• 1:16:03
  Joining us again. Okay.
• 1:16:07
  It's just an SDS show tonight. It is come on in STS.
• 1:16:13
  Let's get the show on the road. Hey.
• 1:16:18
  So how you doing taking good good.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah, that's three time. For those of you who don't know
• 1:16:24
  zagan lives in my Grotto District.
• 1:16:27
  He runs the Greenville Covenant. Which is just like an hour or so
• 1:16:33
  north of me. Oh.
• 1:16:37
  So yeah. Welcome aboard brother.
• 1:16:43
  You're in North Carolina. So, South Carolina, South
• 1:16:47
  Carolina, Grotto. I've never even he's in my
• 1:16:53
  Grotto District. He would have come over to my
• 1:16:55
  house today to enjoy Burgers, but he had to do other things.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah, you might you mind if I ask you a question Jeff.
• 1:17:02
  He Owen by the way earlier you were saying something about
• 1:17:05
  Facebook. My Facebook is Brett Keane just
• 1:17:08
  like you see in here if you're interested in talking sometime.
• 1:17:12
  The second thing is have you ever experienced any event or
• 1:17:16
  Supernatural? Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:21
  Oh, yeah, um. That's kind of was. more my
• 1:17:27
  forte in a way because When I was younger how I even got
• 1:17:33
  involved in Psychology was I thought I was crazy.
• 1:17:35
  I thought I was like seeing things.
• 1:17:37
  I thought I was hearing voices. I would never tell anybody what
• 1:17:41
  was going on because I didn't want them to lock me up, you
• 1:17:45
  know. And then when I went to college
• 1:17:48
  one of my professors said, you know.
• 1:17:51
  To see the the thing is is that people that are crazy.
• 1:17:54
  They don't know they're crazy. So the fact that you are
• 1:17:59
  questioning your sanity. Is the very reason why you're
• 1:18:02
  not crazy? and that made sense to me later
• 1:18:06
  on, you know at the time it didn't but I had seen so much
• 1:18:11
  shit that I thought there's no way that my brain could be
• 1:18:16
  normal, but I've experienced a lot of straight.
• 1:18:22
  Things that that shouldn't have happened I guess by the laws of
• 1:18:26
  physics and reality. But probably the scariest thing
• 1:18:30
  that I've ever had happened was. My fiance and I like broke up
• 1:18:36
  for a period time. And he saw this younger girl
• 1:18:40
  this 19 year old girl. And when he decided, you know
• 1:18:46
  that he didn't want to see her anymore.
• 1:18:48
  She wasn't really accepting of that and she ended up killing
• 1:18:52
  herself and then she wanted to hang out in my house.
• 1:18:58
  And haunt everybody. And create lots of crazy like
• 1:19:05
  just terminally chaos. Yes. things were flying off the
• 1:19:09
  walls, you know people Were getting jumped I got bites all
• 1:19:14
  over my body like this scar right here is from one of the
• 1:19:17
  bites. Damn, she was desperate.
• 1:19:20
  Oh, yeah. She was upset.
• 1:19:24
  Because she felt that I wasn't telling the truth about
• 1:19:27
  something which I wasn't I'll be honest.
• 1:19:30
  I kept something to myself. And she was dead so I didn't
• 1:19:35
  really feel. Like sharing, you know what I
• 1:19:39
  mean? And then she was like, no this
• 1:19:40
  needs to be known and I kind of felt like I had Betrayed her in
• 1:19:48
  a way so I gave her what she wanted and then I told her look.
• 1:19:53
  I was honest about the information you wanted me to be
• 1:19:56
  honest with you know about but now you need to go.
• 1:20:00
  You know, and she left. She comes times on invited but
• 1:20:04
  like I tell everyone don't ever invite any type of spirit into
• 1:20:09
  your house unless you know how to get rid of them.
• 1:20:13
  You know, oh, yeah, that's why I don't tend to you know mess with
• 1:20:16
  those. How do you how exactly does one
• 1:20:20
  get rid of a haunting or a spirit?
• 1:20:24
  I think it believe it really matters on faith. and like you
• 1:20:33
  don't know I lost your screen. Yeah, I just saw that.
• 1:20:37
  What was that? It.
• 1:20:39
  Oh, I don't know maybe at the Spirit decided to fuck with this
• 1:20:42
  shit. Oh, that's rough.
• 1:20:46
  I think that. People's face.
• 1:20:51
  It doesn't really matter what they believe in they could
• 1:20:53
  believe in a shoe. But if you believe in something
• 1:20:57
  and you believe that you can get rid of it and it needs to leave
• 1:21:01
  it does not belong here and you believe that with your whole
• 1:21:05
  heart you can get rid of it. But if there's doubt just like
• 1:21:10
  when you do a ritual or a spell it's this it's the intention and
• 1:21:16
  the thought process and like where your mind is at.
• 1:21:19
  You know what I mean? If you start questioning
• 1:21:22
  yourself, you start questioning your own power which lessons the
• 1:21:27
  effectiveness of the spell. Does that make sense?
• 1:21:33
  Yeah, you believe you believe internally enough actually heard
• 1:21:38
  that certain things will not work unless you have the belief
• 1:21:42
  in them. Yes. like if you guys ever heard
• 1:21:47
  of that guy whim Hoff whim hop like me look him up.
• 1:21:54
  He does these amazing things. Well, he'll be like completely
• 1:21:57
  naked in like negative 26 degree ice water and he'll be able to
• 1:22:04
  stay there and just by breath control or like these doctors at
• 1:22:10
  Harvard. They were looking up all of
• 1:22:13
  these, you know things trying to test him trying to measure, you
• 1:22:18
  know, what he was doing. How was he able to control his
• 1:22:21
  own immune system and body and everyone asked him.
• 1:22:26
  What is your secret? How are you able to do this and
• 1:22:29
  he says because I believe it. I can do it because I believe
• 1:22:33
  it. And to me, I think anybody could
• 1:22:37
  medium. I think anybody could be a
• 1:22:41
  psychic. I think we all have these
• 1:22:43
  abilities they're untapped and science has even proven.
• 1:22:47
  We don't even use more than like 12% of our brains, you know what
• 1:22:52
  I mean? So it's like there's this
• 1:22:54
  untapped potential that all have, you know, science says we
• 1:22:59
  don't use 10% of our brain. So it's even less. whatnot the
• 1:23:08
  way you would normally get rid of a spirit out of a house
• 1:23:11
  Brett. Or out of anywhere is pretty
• 1:23:15
  much just simply do a cleansing of the area.
• 1:23:19
  You know, it could be Sage it could be whatever.
• 1:23:22
  It's just simple cleansing cleansing don't always work
• 1:23:25
  though, brother because now they know sometimes you have to go a
• 1:23:29
  little bit more extreme but in general a general cleansing
• 1:23:32
  usually can get rid of most of the face problems.
• 1:23:35
  It's something that's a little bit more extreme.
• 1:23:38
  You have to do a little bit more stuff.
• 1:23:41
  Yeah, or like I told people your house gets dirty.
• 1:23:44
  You don't just clean it once right.
• 1:23:46
  So there's a problem you have to do like regular cleansings.
• 1:23:51
  That's my belief and it happened where people will cleanse and
• 1:23:56
  it'll get rid of the problem. The problem comes back, you know
• 1:24:00
  what I mean? What if this may be a
• 1:24:03
  controversial question but what if the spirit or another human
• 1:24:07
  being has just as much faith and what they're believing in as you
• 1:24:12
  believe in your path or your form of magic and they attack
• 1:24:16
  you who is going to be able to succeed if both are 100% are the
• 1:24:22
  Spectrum. well, I know why they're attacking is my what my
• 1:24:27
  thought when I when you bring that up I can think of a really
• 1:24:30
  good example right now just it's not as I would say, you know
• 1:24:36
  polar as you know, I'm a magician and this other
• 1:24:39
  magician's doing the opposite to attack me.
• 1:24:42
  It's more of like this place that you know where my
• 1:24:47
  girlfriend works as haunted as crap.
• 1:24:48
  Did it cleansing and but I you know, I get the feeling I see
• 1:24:53
  signs of somebody that works there doing stuff, you know, and
• 1:24:57
  they're doing stuff that obviously they're not really
• 1:25:00
  knowledgeable of it feels like it's somebody that just found
• 1:25:04
  some random stuff on the internet and start, you know
• 1:25:07
  calling in stuff and they don't know what they did or how they
• 1:25:10
  do it or because it's It's chaotic and it's destructive and
• 1:25:15
  it's not geared or pointed. It's just very out of control
• 1:25:19
  and the cleansing did help someone but I mean it's not
• 1:25:23
  gonna resolve the issue because they're constantly are doing
• 1:25:27
  crap opening these portals to shit.
• 1:25:30
  They don't know what they're doing and to stuff that they
• 1:25:32
  don't know how to control that's a good point.
• 1:25:35
  So and I got confirmation because I you know, like I don't
• 1:25:41
  work there. I just I help my girlfriend out
• 1:25:43
  and time to time clean and so it's like mmm.
• 1:25:46
  You know this this person that's doing this.
• 1:25:49
  Where's a lot of purple has glasses and that's just what
• 1:25:52
  came to me. And today we're talking about
• 1:25:55
  something completely innocuous. Just like oh, yeah it meant to
• 1:25:58
  tell you. Yeah.
• 1:25:59
  I I worked over and I actually met the meant the owner and she
• 1:26:03
  wore glasses and she was wearing purple dress.
• 1:26:07
  It's like oh shit, you know, I'm not saying I'm like some
• 1:26:10
  powerful medium or psychic. It's just what I received and I
• 1:26:14
  don't profess any of that. But you know, that's the
• 1:26:17
  confirmation that I needed to say.
• 1:26:19
  Yeah, this is somebody that's doing crap there and unless they
• 1:26:23
  stop they're gonna keep inviting this crap and I can do all I
• 1:26:28
  can, you know burnt Sage I can do all kinds of, you know calls
• 1:26:32
  and exorcism and if you know call Satan himself even to come
• 1:26:36
  here and to try to push these Demons back but whatever Spirits
• 1:26:41
  are there, but it's gonna be fruitless because this person
• 1:26:45
  goes behind what I do and keeps doing it.
• 1:26:47
  So unless they stop No matter what.
• 1:26:50
  I do. It's going to continue to
• 1:26:51
  happen. What about let's say somebody
• 1:26:54
  were to do something off awful to a Satanist story a little
• 1:26:59
  thin or however you pronounce that.
• 1:27:01
  I apologize not not meant to offend.
• 1:27:04
  But if the somebody did a curse or did something that caused the
• 1:27:09
  Satanist to die are they physically did something will
• 1:27:12
  the magic and power be limited if they were to come back in
• 1:27:17
  spirit? Oh the way I see it.
• 1:27:21
  It's my connection with my spirituality like that as also a
• 1:27:28
  protective Factor. And yes, I have had somebody,
• 1:27:32
  you know a couple people purposely do stuff against me
• 1:27:37
  with magic. One of them was actually an
• 1:27:42
  ex-girlfriend and she won't you know, I was talking to her on
• 1:27:46
  the phone and she did it while we're dating and that's how
• 1:27:49
  sadistic she was. And where I was on my phone was
• 1:27:52
  like yeah, I have this migraine. I just came out I know or I
• 1:27:55
  don't know what's going on. Like I feel like throwing up
• 1:27:57
  like I'm not prone to migrants like that.
• 1:27:59
  She's like, oh no, I you know, I really focused and not you know,
• 1:28:04
  I transpired all that. I was feeling into your body
• 1:28:07
  like why the fuck would you do that to me?
• 1:28:10
  Like here? I am busting my ass trying to
• 1:28:12
  support you support us trying to you know, do something nice and
• 1:28:16
  then you you do this kind of shit, like even if it was like
• 1:28:19
  not a an actual spell that she was trying to do just you know,
• 1:28:23
  just wishing that I mean that that's kind of messed up.
• 1:28:26
  I thought we're in a relationship.
• 1:28:27
  I thought we were good and then she pulls that shit.
• 1:28:30
  So yeah intentionally, you know, she did that with magic with
• 1:28:35
  intent with purpose to cause me harm.
• 1:28:39
  And in that sense, then after we broke up and stood a whole lot
• 1:28:43
  more than that. I think it was deemed that I did
• 1:28:48
  a destruction ritual and it wasn't Now, I don't know if
• 1:28:52
  anything bad happened or not, but it was more of like for me
• 1:28:55
  releasing that like negativity from my world from my life.
• 1:28:58
  Like I'm cutting this off and in my mind in my soul in my world
• 1:29:03
  in my universe you no longer exist, and I haven't heard
• 1:29:07
  anything about her, you know for all I know she might be alive
• 1:29:11
  and kicking and doing all kinds of harm to other people.
• 1:29:14
  I don't care has nothing to do with me.
• 1:29:17
  Um, and I don't need like confirmation that She's
• 1:29:19
  suffering for me to feel better about that.
• 1:29:20
  It's just more active like cutting you off.
• 1:29:23
  I'm done. Goodbye.
• 1:29:25
  Does it ever make you guys nervous at some psychopath or
• 1:29:29
  sociopath you get a hold of this these some of the Spells and
• 1:29:34
  abilities and be able to cause harm out in society.
• 1:29:37
  What what is done if a crazy person where they use these
• 1:29:41
  abilities on people just that random?
• 1:29:44
  No, because somebody really steps out of line then that's
• 1:29:50
  where even we line up with what wickens doing we can perform
• 1:29:54
  binding spells and sort of police ourselves right I feel
• 1:30:01
  like that's the the purpose of like warding binding Vanishing
• 1:30:05
  like witches are always protecting themselves and I feel
• 1:30:11
  like normal people They just go about their life.
• 1:30:14
  They don't think about that until something happens and then
• 1:30:18
  they're like, they'll actually curse themselves sometimes by
• 1:30:22
  their thought processes because they're looking at it like, oh,
• 1:30:25
  look, I'm having all this bad luck.
• 1:30:26
  I'm next. I'm cursed.
• 1:30:28
  You know what I mean? And then the minute you say that
• 1:30:30
  you are I I you guys feel about that.
• 1:30:33
  But I do, you know, we that happen, but the the diligent
• 1:30:39
  person will usually step up and then they'll be like, okay
• 1:30:42
  something's not right here. I'm out of balance and my hex am
• 1:30:46
  I curse? And whether they are they're not
• 1:30:49
  they'll take the measures to correct that situation and
• 1:30:53
  resolve it and so, you know, but the ignorant person will not Mr.
• 1:30:59
  Rex after having the horrid experience that you had do you
• 1:31:04
  feel as though you now in the future now that you've dealt
• 1:31:08
  with this that you should kind of hold back on who you teach?
• 1:31:11
  Is there like an initiation on how long until you can trust
• 1:31:15
  somebody before you start teaching them anything?
• 1:31:18
  Oh, yeah for sure being. It you know, that's one of the
• 1:31:24
  caveats that come with being a cult world.
• 1:31:27
  Not only finding people that are like-minded but then also
• 1:31:32
  finding romantic partners that not only are suitable for what
• 1:31:37
  you're into but are also going to support you and your growth
• 1:31:41
  and you know, it's I don't think anybody is really but the first
• 1:31:47
  of all as humans, we don't we're not born with a manual to figure
• 1:31:51
  out. Okay.
• 1:31:52
  This is what's gonna work. This is what's not gonna work.
• 1:31:54
  You know, it's most of us we're all trying our best and
• 1:31:57
  stumbling and messing up along the way a lot and if we take
• 1:32:00
  things as a learning experience that we take a lot from it as
• 1:32:03
  opposed to feeling like we're hex or cursed.
• 1:32:06
  So in that regard, I will say that my experiences you have
• 1:32:11
  kind of fine-tuned my sort of like my sensors or you know,
• 1:32:16
  trying to figure out who I can trust and who not to trust and I
• 1:32:20
  think at the moment I found a pretty good balance myself like
• 1:32:24
  I don't need my partner to also partake if she does that's
• 1:32:30
  great. You know, she doesn't that's
• 1:32:32
  fine. You know my growth is with my
• 1:32:35
  organization. It's with my you know covering
• 1:32:39
  group. It's with my Grotto, you know,
• 1:32:41
  that's where I find my growth and they don't need to be
• 1:32:45
  intertwined per se if they can be intertwined.
• 1:32:48
  That's great, but it's not an assessity.
• 1:32:50
  So at that point I like you know, what you guys were talking
• 1:32:55
  about finding that balance and you know, when I when my girls
• 1:33:00
  curious about stuff and she asks questions, I'll answer them.
• 1:33:04
  But if she's not Ready for it. And she's not ready for it.
• 1:33:08
  Because when I get pushed to two things I'm not ready for I'm not
• 1:33:11
  as perceptive. So I have to keep that in mind
• 1:33:13
  about her as well. So yeah, I've fine-tuned things
• 1:33:17
  and trying to figure out what can trust I mean and every day I
• 1:33:22
  write it to people that could be potential and and who have
• 1:33:25
  potential in themselves. Actually, I take that back
• 1:33:27
  everybody has potential but they just don't see it in themselves.
• 1:33:31
  And we are very elitist Satanist.
• 1:33:36
  So yeah constantly trying to read people constantly trying to
• 1:33:41
  figure out who can be part of what we're trying to do.
• 1:33:46
  Not one more question for you guys, and I'd love to hear from
• 1:33:49
  all your different positions and how you do it.
• 1:33:52
  Obviously you guys some of you've been former Christian.
• 1:33:56
  So you know that if somebody murdered someone they end up and
• 1:34:00
  they're representation of hell and you know what that's all
• 1:34:03
  about. But what if the Satanist kills a
• 1:34:06
  Satanist and satanists just goes off and and smokes another
• 1:34:11
  Satanist. What would be the punishment if
• 1:34:14
  any I would say the first thing that almost every Satanist would
• 1:34:19
  say is was it a Justified killing was it a self-defense
• 1:34:24
  situation? Because we've run into that in
• 1:34:25
  the past four were somebody claims to be a Satanist and is
• 1:34:31
  actually just a total wacko. Um, yeah and it happens.
• 1:34:37
  It happens. There.
• 1:34:38
  There are those out there who are completely Looney Tunes and
• 1:34:43
  straight jacket, that'll help them.
• 1:34:45
  I guess what I mean. Is there a special place for a
• 1:34:49
  bastard like that? That's just hauls off and kills
• 1:34:52
  his his fellow neighbors Satanist.
• 1:34:55
  I would say he better not show his face around anybody else
• 1:34:59
  unless it was a Justified killing if he was defending
• 1:35:02
  himself, he's fine. But if it if he's just one of
• 1:35:05
  these people who thinks that you know hurting anybody in general.
• 1:35:09
  Well, I don't think that they better show themselves around
• 1:35:12
  Cubans or grottos because we're liable to exact our pound of
• 1:35:19
  Flesh Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:35:21
  I I understand. There's that that you can get
• 1:35:24
  back at him in the physical as for what happens in the
• 1:35:28
  metaphysical very well. That's between that's between
• 1:35:31
  them and Satan exactly. That's what I was gonna say,
• 1:35:34
  brother. No.
• 1:35:37
  We're all our jobs are you know? In the past and when we die is
• 1:35:43
  we just become wardens, you know, we show people the right
• 1:35:46
  way is your health and help them get over their own personal
• 1:35:51
  condemnations. And they do the rest themselves.
• 1:35:54
  That's that's my opinion on it. Why do you think crazy people
• 1:36:01
  are so attracted to not only Satanism but Christianity and
• 1:36:06
  some of the abrahamic faiths there seems to be a lot of them.
• 1:36:09
  Why do you think this happens? I think that's cultural.
• 1:36:14
  I think it also creates a psychosis.
• 1:36:17
  You know. because I think a lot of times when people are
• 1:36:21
  mentally unstable. They have no idea that their
• 1:36:26
  thought processes might seem strange to someone else. the you
• 1:36:32
  know, I mean because that's their reality and their
• 1:36:36
  perception. So when we hear it, they're
• 1:36:39
  subjective Universe. Yes.
• 1:36:42
  Thank you for articulating that. And plus media, too.
• 1:36:48
  Yeah, it doesn't help. Oh, yeah you well, I will have
• 1:36:53
  to say this though like there's I guess fanaticism.
• 1:37:01
  It's always been around before media before.
• 1:37:05
  You know the centralization of um, you know serial killers.
• 1:37:12
  So what I would have to say in addition to culture is if you
• 1:37:17
  you think about like you look about God, you know, Christian
• 1:37:23
  God and talking about Alpha and Omega and how there's always
• 1:37:26
  this idea of end to end times like he's got the power to give
• 1:37:32
  but also came breath. So it gives, you know rise to
• 1:37:36
  these very big polarizing ideas. Life to death and you know
• 1:37:41
  having like somebody's above you say whatever you think can do is
• 1:37:46
  okay. I see that in Christianity.
• 1:37:49
  That's what leads people to be in fanatic and committing all
• 1:37:54
  kinds of heinous things in the name of God, then Satanism.
• 1:37:58
  I see a little different similar but a little difference in a
• 1:38:01
  sense of like, well, there's this thanks to Gilmore.
• 1:38:05
  There's this misconception that whatever you think saying is
• 1:38:08
  that's what it is and you know that there's no control there's
• 1:38:12
  no order in it. And so people just wake up when
• 1:38:16
  they be like, oh you told me to kill 50 people just because it
• 1:38:19
  makes them happy and that's it and nobody can say anything and
• 1:38:23
  some people actually celebrate that but that's a You know, it's
• 1:38:28
  a giant misconceptor because it's so wide open and I think
• 1:38:30
  that's an organization. That's what we're trying to do
• 1:38:32
  like trying to Define and refine what it is instead of this
• 1:38:36
  free-for-all. I mean you go on Facebook right
• 1:38:39
  now on any group and you see all kinds of people saying well
• 1:38:43
  almost saying is because this and that and it's just I
• 1:38:46
  couldn't be so much different and those people and they're so
• 1:38:50
  atheists and they they're so left this and they have all
• 1:38:53
  these that things that have nothing to do with religion with
• 1:38:56
  spirituality whatsoever. Definitely I would say listen
• 1:39:00
  and I think that's the difference between Christianity
• 1:39:03
  abrahamic religions and Satanism.
• 1:39:07
  You know, I was talking to Lucifer about this.
• 1:39:09
  I I believe that they're atheism leads to nihilism with no
• 1:39:14
  purpose or reason but I also believe there's different forms
• 1:39:18
  of Christianity and what they teach that also leads to a form
• 1:39:22
  of pretty dark nihilism such as people who believe that no
• 1:39:26
  matter what they do. They're in the hand of God and
• 1:39:29
  protected no matter what these are.
• 1:39:31
  Usually the ones that are pretty damn dangerous.
• 1:39:33
  Yeah, they are and so what what you have to think about is like
• 1:39:38
  the the church service itself is a ritual and you know, you have
• 1:39:44
  the whole welcoming atmosphere. You have the whole passing of
• 1:39:49
  the plate. You have the hands you have the
• 1:39:52
  charismatic preaching and people just fall to that and that's
• 1:39:58
  when they can interject any kind of concept about Christianity
• 1:40:03
  that they want and that's the most dangerous type because like
• 1:40:06
  you're saying different denominations and you know, you
• 1:40:09
  have a lot of Pentecostal you have a lot of Baptists that that
• 1:40:13
  they differ they might have the same name, but they differ and
• 1:40:16
  what they're talking about and the less restrictions they have
• 1:40:19
  like in Satanism the more wild things that they can come up
• 1:40:23
  with and people just fall into it and they there's a lot of
• 1:40:27
  Christian Cults that go without being called Colts but four days
• 1:40:32
  fall into the same definition people do things that normally
• 1:40:36
  that wouldn't because their leaders telling them to do it
• 1:40:39
  and it's like what What right mind, you know, are you doing
• 1:40:44
  all these things that one man is telling you to do that has
• 1:40:47
  nothing to do with the Bible what so ever?
• 1:40:50
  Right. Yeah bubble gum out of here.
• 1:40:53
  He says not nihilist that they were nihilist they'd be
• 1:40:56
  definitely they would not be defending the LGBT.
• 1:40:59
  I'm not really sure which point is on that but I'm not very sure
• 1:41:02
  they defend the lgbtq community. Yeah, it's there's people out
• 1:41:07
  there who believe that no matter what they do if they hurt
• 1:41:10
  somebody it's because God permitted them to if they do
• 1:41:14
  something wrong to others. It's because God allowed them to
• 1:41:18
  do it. When you have that type of
• 1:41:19
  mindset. It's no different from atheist
• 1:41:22
  nihilism because you're basically saying your life has
• 1:41:24
  no purpose and meaning you can do whatever the fuck you want.
• 1:41:27
  He's good. I mean, yeah, I get what you're
• 1:41:31
  saying. 100% get what you're saying.
• 1:41:35
  It seems like there are people that do that in the positive way
• 1:41:40
  too. Like I've seen people say, oh
• 1:41:42
  God cured my cancer death and it that makes me think.
• 1:41:48
  Okay. So the kids that died of cancer
• 1:41:51
  or or you know me when I had cancer three times.
• 1:41:54
  Does that mean that I'm somehow lesser of a being like I just
• 1:41:59
  don't understand that thought process of You know some
• 1:42:03
  omnipotent being saving you for no reason, you know what I mean?
• 1:42:08
  I just don't I don't think that that's realistic. um Unless it's
• 1:42:15
  only pertaining to you. You know what I mean?
• 1:42:17
  See that's why I think that a lot of people ought to be very
• 1:42:21
  careful when sharing their personal experiences because I
• 1:42:25
  can't even imagine how much pain that must cause somebody if you
• 1:42:29
  hear somebody say, oh God cared my cancer and you don't even
• 1:42:32
  know the person stand next you lost a kid the cancer.
• 1:42:35
  It's it's gonna be like what the fuck to deal with this
• 1:42:39
  favoritism. You know, what the deal?
• 1:42:42
  Totally as fucking. Yeah, and well, I've I've gone
• 1:42:48
  on record pointing out that almost I got exact situation was
• 1:42:52
  one of the things that made me lose my faith in Christianity
• 1:42:57
  when I was younger. Yeah, that's I'm gonna go get
• 1:43:00
  myself a cup of coffee guys. That's one of the major reasons
• 1:43:04
  why philosophically identify as a sadness because it's you know,
• 1:43:09
  I may have a lot of I have my own personal life experiences
• 1:43:12
  that are unique and important to me but a that doesn't mean that
• 1:43:17
  they're important to anyone or everyone else and be somebody
• 1:43:24
  else's experiences. I may not personally care too
• 1:43:29
  much about or have big meaning at all if any So and I don't
• 1:43:34
  want to be rude and just say, you know, I really don't care so
• 1:43:38
  philosophically if somebody's not asking me about myself.
• 1:43:42
  I really don't tend to talk about myself.
• 1:43:45
  I mean, I think until like we started these, you know podcasts
• 1:43:50
  I didn't even show my face online at all.
• 1:43:52
  And it's not that because I'm trying to hide who I am.
• 1:43:55
  It's just I'm a private person and my experiences.
• 1:43:58
  I really, you know, Ravel in and enjoy and live my life to the
• 1:44:03
  fullest but it's not for for show.
• 1:44:07
  It's not for some sort of already of any sort.
• 1:44:11
  It's just the way I live life and if more people live in a
• 1:44:17
  sense of not bringing your own stuff and imposing it and other
• 1:44:20
  people I think we'll be more calmer and more accepting of
• 1:44:24
  each other because when I ask man, I really care not really
• 1:44:28
  want to hear um, and somebody asks then I really feel like
• 1:44:32
  wow. You do care.
• 1:44:34
  Most people don't they just mimic and what they see and what
• 1:44:39
  they hear because they think that's what it's about, but it's
• 1:44:41
  really I've always I've always kept the mind that you know,
• 1:44:47
  people come from different cultures and areas and they're
• 1:44:50
  gonna have different thought processes and for me, I I don't
• 1:44:54
  know what it is, but I instinctively and naturally
• 1:44:56
  desire learning from other people.
• 1:44:59
  I like to know why it is people think the way they think why
• 1:45:02
  they take this way. I wish that I'd be able to use
• 1:45:06
  some of the knowledge that I've learned to be able to help some
• 1:45:09
  people out there that are having it hard.
• 1:45:11
  Yeah. Well, I mean like get into
• 1:45:15
  helping others is actually easier than what you think.
• 1:45:20
  But I hear what you're saying because I mean professionally
• 1:45:23
  that's that's my realm is the mind then it's psychology and
• 1:45:30
  it's the mental health world and been it for many years 10 years
• 1:45:36
  almost actually in Juno be exactly 10 years professionally.
• 1:45:42
  But yeah, I mean just doing that just living in this world and
• 1:45:47
  trying to I'm gonna say I come here to help others, but I'm
• 1:45:52
  here to help those. I want to help themselves and I
• 1:45:56
  can all I can do is create that environment and create that
• 1:45:59
  space where they can learn from themselves and grow I do not
• 1:46:04
  change anybody at all. I don't not saving anybody
• 1:46:09
  whatsoever. But you know, I'll create a
• 1:46:12
  space where the non-judgmental and you can grow and you know,
• 1:46:16
  I'll help you through that process, but I am not that
• 1:46:20
  process. I am simply a guide at best if
• 1:46:24
  that Are you an lmft brother? LPC tract yeah.
• 1:46:32
  But you know, I am Todd tear respect.
• 1:46:35
  Yes, I'm leaving leaving that world because it's full of.
• 1:46:42
  Insurance yeah, you know dictating.
• 1:46:46
  What is oh what insurance I would it's the worst.
• 1:46:51
  I'm getting away from agencies that dictate what is right and
• 1:46:57
  what is wrong? And I am this year.
• 1:47:00
  I'm starting metaphysical mental health counseling.
• 1:47:04
  I love that trans personally psychology.
• 1:47:07
  Yes, something a lot of people would like to have.
• 1:47:10
  Yeah. I've been here not a lot.
• 1:47:13
  You know, it's a concept that You know, I've been flirting
• 1:47:17
  with for a while. And just when I've come out and
• 1:47:20
  said this is what I want to do and start to see her.
• 1:47:22
  That's the response I get. So thank you for that
• 1:47:25
  confirmation because it will come in.
• 1:47:28
  It's and I'm gonna do in a way where it's not about making
• 1:47:33
  money. I think that's where I mean even
• 1:47:36
  personally when I went to because as a professional also
• 1:47:40
  like to have a check and also have counselors and
• 1:47:43
  psychiatrists I talk to you from time, but they're all about
• 1:47:46
  money, you know, 100% you know, that's something I really hate.
• 1:47:50
  The most about is most these people.
• 1:47:53
  They just want the money instead of actually helping people are
• 1:47:56
  going through mental Trump trouble.
• 1:47:57
  Like I even had like mental troubles and luckily I'm on
• 1:48:00
  medication, but even we're going to therapy it's just insurance.
• 1:48:04
  It's just so fucked it and do you know brother I had
• 1:48:08
  colleagues assurance and then they were also charging on top
• 1:48:13
  of it. Oh, fuck that shit.
• 1:48:17
  That was yes, right. Fuck that shit.
• 1:48:19
  I mean I'll be that honest and The 10 years I've been in this
• 1:48:26
  field at this moment. I have absolutely zero friends
• 1:48:30
  that are in the counseling field and I've met tons of people I
• 1:48:34
  met hundreds of people and not as professionals.
• 1:48:38
  I don't have any of them as friends because they're all
• 1:48:40
  predatory. They're all trying to make money
• 1:48:43
  of people that are suffering and it to me if we're talking about
• 1:48:48
  if I were to think about Good and Evil, I'll tell us pretty
• 1:48:52
  evil. You know, like oh you're
• 1:48:53
  suffering. Oh, let me make money off of
• 1:48:55
  that. Yeah.
• 1:48:56
  There are people that open up this is on related, but it kind
• 1:49:01
  of like reminds me of like there's this guy that was
• 1:49:04
  bragging about opening a funeral homes during covid and him
• 1:49:07
  making the most money. He's ever making this life doing
• 1:49:10
  covid because of him burning people.
• 1:49:13
  And that like the Optics of that is horrendous.
• 1:49:16
  So I mean so talk about you know, the mental healthier how
• 1:49:23
  people try to make money off of them.
• 1:49:25
  I think it's wrong and I may have a charge here and there
• 1:49:29
  kind of like, you know, tarot read or sometimes but it's not
• 1:49:32
  gonna be something that is gonna be a wall.
• 1:49:35
  But if somebody's like hey, I'm struggling financially mentally,
• 1:49:39
  whatever. Look, this isn't the way I make
• 1:49:42
  a living. This is the way that is a
• 1:49:44
  mission that I feel like I got called to do.
• 1:49:45
  So in that sense what I need is provided already.
• 1:49:52
  I agree with you. 100% And that's you.
• 1:49:56
  That's the Outlook that STS has in general.
• 1:49:59
  Yeah, we do. We do make money to keep our
• 1:50:03
  organization running. Obviously for me, you know
• 1:50:09
  literally and I've been open and honest with everybody in the
• 1:50:12
  organization and surrounding the organization.
• 1:50:15
  This is my job. This is my living but Everything
• 1:50:20
  that we make tends to go right back into funding the
• 1:50:25
  organization. It funds the books.
• 1:50:27
  It funds. Um, it funds all of our
• 1:50:32
  projects. It was the website.
• 1:50:34
  It funds all sorts of things. Sorry, you're hearing my son in
• 1:50:39
  the background. He's getting ready for bed.
• 1:50:42
  I try to help you there brother. That's all I can do.
• 1:50:44
  That's what I've been buying mostly Try by your books and
• 1:50:47
  cloven hoof. So Gypsy you were saying earlier
• 1:50:51
  that you had gotten on a Catholicism and made your way
• 1:50:54
  towards paganism. I I don't know what it's like in
• 1:50:58
  California. I live about 17 miles south of
• 1:51:01
  Saint Louis and I wouldn't know the first place to go.
• 1:51:04
  They don't have like, you know Pagan temples around here or
• 1:51:08
  anything. How do you go about finding
• 1:51:10
  something like this? Well, I had someone who was much
• 1:51:15
  older than me. He since you know passed away,
• 1:51:19
  but he was what I referred to as my spiritual teacher.
• 1:51:23
  He was OTL, you know, and I was initiated in the Oto when I was
• 1:51:29
  young Oto is order templating orientis.
• 1:51:34
  And it's Ordo template order. It's Alistair Crowley's filmism.
• 1:51:40
  There you go, brother. And so I actually had to have
• 1:51:45
  someone guide me and teach me just like you were talking about
• 1:51:50
  earlier and they had to make sure you know that I was ready
• 1:51:54
  before I was initiated it took like two or three years, you
• 1:51:58
  know, and I think the reason why my mom sent me to Catholic
• 1:52:03
  boarding school. Is because my mom was a witch
• 1:52:07
  and she she would always talk about she was very Pagan old
• 1:52:11
  school like Keeper of the old ways.
• 1:52:13
  She felt that it should be secret that no one should know
• 1:52:16
  about it and I didn't understand that because to me it wasn't
• 1:52:23
  back in the day when witches are being burned and stuff like
• 1:52:28
  that. So I feel like that doesn't
• 1:52:31
  really apply anymore. But I understand my mom's
• 1:52:35
  mindset. She didn't want anyone judging
• 1:52:38
  her or you know, doing something to her because she was a witch
• 1:52:43
  so she'd rather keep it to herself.
• 1:52:44
  You know what I mean? Just like what?
• 1:52:47
  I'm not sure what brother What is your name?
• 1:52:51
  I'm sorry. I don't like a board and No, not
• 1:52:55
  you Lucifer. You're you're oh saying.
• 1:52:59
  Yes. I don't want to say it wrong
• 1:53:01
  what you are saying about like finding the lesson in everything
• 1:53:06
  that's really important, you know and about having someone to
• 1:53:12
  guide you and not making it all about themselves or whatever
• 1:53:16
  just seen You know guidance as something that's majorly
• 1:53:23
  important in anything and everything that you're learning,
• 1:53:27
  you know. and sometimes like someone will come up to me right
• 1:53:32
  and they'll say Oh, I'm new I want to get into this.
• 1:53:35
  How do I do it? Right and my answer is always.
• 1:53:41
  With me I did research and I built a foundation and I I built
• 1:53:48
  a relationship with my goddess, you know, and I feel like you
• 1:53:52
  have to start from scratch. You can't just like jump in and
• 1:53:56
  start doing rituals, you know, nothing about you know what I
• 1:54:00
  mean? You would hired at a new job
• 1:54:03
  right go up to your co-worker and say Hey, how do you do your
• 1:54:07
  job? Right.
• 1:54:09
  Yeah, I feel that it's easier and easier every year for people
• 1:54:16
  to get into the occult field, but it's also getting harder
• 1:54:20
  because we have so many people out there who are very dishonest
• 1:54:25
  and disingenuous that they tend to try to we were in people per
• 1:54:30
  personal gain. And they don't give the best
• 1:54:34
  advice where to start it wasn't easy for me to start but it was
• 1:54:39
  easier. I would say for me to start back
• 1:54:41
  in the late 90s. Yeah mid to late 90s.
• 1:54:45
  Um, then it would have been 10 years prior to that and going
• 1:54:49
  back further and further. It would just you eventually,
• 1:54:53
  you know. The way that it should always be
• 1:54:56
  is you should always get into it because you know somebody who's
• 1:54:59
  into it. Well, excuse me.
• 1:55:02
  And but nowadays it's so easy. You just you we have the most
• 1:55:08
  powerful tool of research at our fingertips, but it's also the
• 1:55:12
  most counterintuitive tool a time.
• 1:55:15
  If you don't know what you're looking for, and that's the
• 1:55:17
  internet just simply, you know going out there. and putting
• 1:55:23
  yourself out there, but then you get so much mixed messages of
• 1:55:27
  jargon and Who's doing what and you know who wants to read what
• 1:55:32
  and my when I got into it. I went to a small out of the way
• 1:55:40
  bookstore first. I found out I first got
• 1:55:44
  interested in it through the movie The Craft and I was like,
• 1:55:47
  okay, let's take a look into this.
• 1:55:49
  See if this witchcraft thing is a real thing and we actually
• 1:55:52
  just bought the movie The Craft you can't find it in DVD very
• 1:55:55
  easily, you know of Amazon and we just got it in today and like
• 1:56:02
  yeah, I'm gonna find it and buy it on Amazon if I have to spend
• 1:56:07
  $200 for it. You gotta be careful where you
• 1:56:10
  get it? Have you asked?
• 1:56:13
  Yeah, I'm not I have it. It's not terrible.
• 1:56:16
  But I'm like and didn't you feel like it was a little Dynamic.
• 1:56:22
  I was like what what's going on here that is house so much
• 1:56:26
  wicker has gone and I would I trained in Alexandria and Garden
• 1:56:31
  area and liquor and as you know, that is a very strong male
• 1:56:34
  aspect female aspect work together.
• 1:56:38
  Yeah, Diana pagans and Diana wiccans.
• 1:56:42
  It's like here's the mail. Here's a dick.
• 1:56:44
  Yeah. Yeah get out of here.
• 1:56:47
  We only want the females like no.
• 1:56:50
  Where's your balance? Yeah eradicate the male.
• 1:56:59
  I can't hear you. I said I feel like Society is
• 1:57:03
  completely trying to eradicate the male gender it is you know,
• 1:57:07
  it is what this bullshit woke ideology.
• 1:57:10
  Yeah, and I mean, I'm all for LGB.
• 1:57:17
  T other my brother's trans I'm by you know, so I'm not gonna be
• 1:57:21
  you know that type of person but I feel that this whole
• 1:57:26
  scientific discovery where the Y chromosome is, like literally
• 1:57:29
  disappearing and all of the, you know, different attacks on
• 1:57:34
  testosterone and the stuff that we're putting in our food all
• 1:57:38
  that kind of crap. I feel like is really taking its
• 1:57:41
  toll you know, and they're talking more and more about
• 1:57:47
  matriarchs and you know down with the patriarchy which I'm
• 1:57:53
  not a fan of the patriarchy but I don't think there should be a
• 1:57:57
  matriarchy to replace it. You know what I mean?
• 1:58:01
  No gender is better than the other in my opinion.
• 1:58:05
  My Hunger, I don't know. I feel like it was the opposite.
• 1:58:10
  I feel like women are the ones that are under attack mostly
• 1:58:13
  because of this, especially whenever it comes to athleticism
• 1:58:17
  and sports. I see what your brother.
• 1:58:22
  It's me. I'm a proud male chauvinist.
• 1:58:24
  But you know, I went through my Time Warner.
• 1:58:28
  I questioned my sexuality. I questioned everything.
• 1:58:31
  I did my own personal Explorations and I I came to
• 1:58:36
  become very comfortable with who I was at the end of the day.
• 1:58:41
  And I came to be very proud of being male.
• 1:58:45
  Myself and I I have you know, I was born in my own.
• 1:58:49
  I'm going to die a male and I'm very happy of that and I enjoy
• 1:58:53
  behaving as male as possible. I believe in that that there is
• 1:58:59
  a reason for that economy, you know, you got your female gender
• 1:59:02
  you got your female gender and they they're designed to work
• 1:59:06
  together. Yeah, you know women can get a
• 1:59:10
  little loopy sometimes and Nails can pull them back down to earth
• 1:59:14
  and then women have some really good ideas or guys and do oh,
• 1:59:18
  there's a rotor blade. Let's go.
• 1:59:21
  Finger in it. I am Devin.
• 1:59:24
  It's almost I'm welcome to jackass for have you heard of
• 1:59:28
  some of these groups out there? They have a Twitter too gays
• 1:59:32
  against groomers. Have you heard of this?
• 1:59:35
  I've heard of it. Yeah, basically homosexuals and
• 1:59:40
  lesbians are Banning together to go after the LGBT because they
• 1:59:45
  believe that it's been corrupted.
• 1:59:47
  They feel as though they're trying to normalize pedophilian
• 1:59:51
  society and they're trying to stop it.
• 1:59:54
  Oh, I'll be right back guys. I gotta put my kid to bed.
• 1:59:58
  All right. I'll be right back.
• 1:59:59
  Good night many Lucifer over here, son.
• 2:00:04
  I agree with you on that one brother because it also seems
• 2:00:09
  like I mean, I don't mean to come out of left field or
• 2:00:14
  anything, but there are actual groups that are saying
• 2:00:19
  pedophilia is normal and then they go back to like certain
• 2:00:23
  sections of history and they rewrite it in such a way to
• 2:00:28
  where it looks like it is. Supporting their ideas, you know
• 2:00:33
  what I mean? And I just say something about
• 2:00:36
  that. You know, what's really bullshit
• 2:00:38
  though is like we're so going backwards.
• 2:00:41
  We're not going forward. We're backwards in time and it's
• 2:00:44
  like now society's just enabling this bullshit ideology.
• 2:00:48
  That's basically oh that's basically tell kids like hey,
• 2:00:52
  you're in the wrong body. That's pretty hormones.
• 2:00:55
  It's like you're telling a kid to get a tattoo at a young age
• 2:00:57
  or smoking weed or shit or even have sex with adults like their
• 2:01:01
  kids. They can't get sent to that
• 2:01:02
  bullshit. Oh, have you heard about this
• 2:01:05
  new thing where now there's kids that are identifying as cats.
• 2:01:09
  So they I hate those I fucking despise it.
• 2:01:13
  It's so bullshit. I've fucking ran on that rooms.
• 2:01:18
  Like it's a normal thing and they're letting kids go to the
• 2:01:21
  litter box in the classroom. What the hell?
• 2:01:24
  Yeah. They're they're called other
• 2:01:26
  kin. But yeah, they're going along
• 2:01:28
  with oh no, no, no, no get out of that shit, please.
• 2:01:35
  Please just take me to hell right now.
• 2:01:37
  So Gypsy have you heard of trans aging and the trans disabled
• 2:01:42
  yet? Uh The Translating, you know,
• 2:01:45
  one of the one of the examples is a couple years back a 50 year
• 2:01:50
  old man told his wife and his children that he is now six
• 2:01:54
  years old and he wants to be taken care of like six.
• 2:01:57
  He didn't want to work, you know.
• 2:02:00
  All right, relax guy mine. I'm sorry.
• 2:02:06
  I'm sorry. It's fucking hilarious.
• 2:02:09
  Okay, so the trans disabled. These are people who fantasize
• 2:02:13
  about chopping out their limbs. They actually want to be
• 2:02:17
  crippled and stuff. There was a lady just a while
• 2:02:22
  back who wanted to completely have her arms and legs removed
• 2:02:25
  and that's what she identifies as trans disabled.
• 2:02:29
  I shit, you know that's real thing.
• 2:02:31
  I didn't say something. I know a lot of people who are
• 2:02:34
  disabled physically and that's just a fucking mockery. and you
• 2:02:40
  know what what it scares me is you think about how back in the
• 2:02:44
  day all these Christian people would say If we allow this it's
• 2:02:50
  gonna turn into this and it's literally turned into what they
• 2:02:54
  said. It would and it makes me annoyed
• 2:02:56
  because I'm like no no, We you know because I don't want to
• 2:03:00
  follow that ideology either, you know, but it it kind of shows
• 2:03:04
  that compartmentalization is necessary judgment is needed to
• 2:03:09
  make choices and decisions in life.
• 2:03:12
  So yeah, we need it. It's just how far are we willing
• 2:03:16
  to go to remove it completely like You know what I'm saying?
• 2:03:20
  Like I just don't think that that's gonna serve Us in the
• 2:03:23
  end. Oh, I completely agree with you.
• 2:03:25
  I remember whenever I was a popular form or atheist and I'd
• 2:03:29
  argue with religious folks that was one of the arguments that
• 2:03:31
  they actually use they said, you know, if you let this and then
• 2:03:35
  you let this and the next thing, you know, the same argument
• 2:03:37
  could be made for pedophilia like yeah, you going too far.
• 2:03:42
  You're just you got hate towards gaze type of thing.
• 2:03:44
  But now we're here and something something is wrong.
• 2:03:50
  Somebody put the wrong shit in the Kool-Aid folks. mmm, so I
• 2:03:55
  would say to that like of I would I would say maybe what six
• 2:04:01
  seven years ago is when you know, I and wasn't just me.
• 2:04:06
  I felt this and I felt other people around me were we had
• 2:04:10
  this conception of or misconception that there's the
• 2:04:14
  safety net in our society this magical safety net that you
• 2:04:17
  know, things were never get too far like oh, there's no way
• 2:04:21
  they're gonna normalize pitifilia.
• 2:04:22
  Like you think that's so out there or right?
• 2:04:24
  There's no way somebody's gonna want to purposely become
• 2:04:28
  disabled and yet this is the norm today and there is no
• 2:04:34
  safety net. And I mean not just you know,
• 2:04:39
  without jumping too much into politics or you know culture or
• 2:04:43
  anything like that like we have seen there's no magical net.
• 2:04:47
  That's just gonna keep everything even kill and from
• 2:04:50
  going downhill and any shape where form but here we are and
• 2:04:55
  it's, you know, it's really annoying to see that loving
• 2:05:00
  everybody and everything and accepting everybody and
• 2:05:04
  everything it caus. This that's why you know, you're
• 2:05:09
  saying Gypsy like having some sort of.
• 2:05:13
  Not I don't want to say the word order.
• 2:05:15
  But just you know, if I choose to do whatever I want to choose
• 2:05:19
  to do and my bedroom with whoever is my freedom much worse
• 2:05:24
  to do and we're too consenting adults.
• 2:05:27
  Then who is who's there to judge?
• 2:05:30
  You know, right but if I'm then saying, okay, this is what I do
• 2:05:36
  at home with whoever I want and we do all these kinds of things
• 2:05:40
  that we enjoy doing but then I'm gonna wake up today and I'm
• 2:05:44
  gonna say now I'm gonna tell your children about it.
• 2:05:46
  And now I'm gonna post this on your children, then I'm gonna go
• 2:05:50
  into you know, my my representative and I'm gonna
• 2:05:54
  push for this to be, you know, in a law and I'm gonna push for
• 2:05:58
  you know story time and I want to push for you know after
• 2:06:03
  school groups and I'm gonna open a clinic for abortion and I'm
• 2:06:07
  gonna do this like that's when you're imposing your personal
• 2:06:11
  stuff on other people. And that's when personal
• 2:06:14
  Liberties are trampled and then it's like if I say anything
• 2:06:19
  about not agreeing with everything and everybody's
• 2:06:22
  emotions that I'm a feeling then right I get to the point where
• 2:06:26
  fun I'll be available. I don't care because I just I'm
• 2:06:30
  not gonna cosign on this lunacy anymore.
• 2:06:33
  It's not Yeah, I feel like that's satanic.
• 2:06:37
  You know, that's like inherently satanic We're Not Gonna cosign
• 2:06:41
  bullshit. We don't believe in or that we
• 2:06:43
  don't think is okay and I think a lot of times in society when
• 2:06:49
  people that don't have the guts to do that.
• 2:06:52
  See someone else doing it, you know creates a lot of animosity
• 2:06:57
  or even anxiety within that person.
• 2:07:00
  Oh, yeah, you know Anton LaVey was facing many of the same
• 2:07:06
  situations that we were facing nowadays.
• 2:07:08
  He was facing literally the hippie movement of the 1960s and
• 2:07:14
  70s. Are through the 50s through you
• 2:07:18
  know, he lived all of that and he would have these people just
• 2:07:22
  like how they come at STS their salary come at us.
• 2:07:26
  Um coming at him accusing him of the same things doing the exact
• 2:07:31
  same stuff that we get thrown at us all the time and he wrote
• 2:07:36
  about it in his song him to the satanic Empire the battle him or
• 2:07:41
  satanic Empire. He flat out said that you know,
• 2:07:45
  there's a place for you a place for me a place that's green, you
• 2:07:50
  know where everybody has enough for everybody, but the bleeding
• 2:07:55
  hearts wouldn't let it be Right and you know these bleeding
• 2:08:01
  hearts that he's talking about is of course, you know over
• 2:08:04
  liberals who want more and more and more and more freedoms
• 2:08:08
  without any consequence. They they don't want a checks
• 2:08:15
  and balances in place and Anton LaVey.
• 2:08:18
  He was he was a conservative. He understood that there had to
• 2:08:22
  be a checks and balances in place to you know to make sure
• 2:08:28
  everybody has what can make them happy.
• 2:08:31
  He said everybody has a right. To live in their own isolated
• 2:08:36
  little bubble of a world where they can be around the people
• 2:08:40
  who they feel enriched their lives right the most.
• 2:08:45
  But you know, that's just them it's their own isolated universe
• 2:08:50
  and when we look at antonovich, he exemplified this.
• 2:08:54
  To an extreme word, you know, especially later on in life.
• 2:08:58
  He was isolating himself. He surrounded his house with
• 2:09:01
  fence. He had security camera up front.
• 2:09:03
  He didn't want to deal with the outside world.
• 2:09:05
  He got more fulfillment talking to the mannequins in his
• 2:09:10
  basement. He did with talking anybody to
• 2:09:15
  anybody outside of the tree. You know, so so the Liberals
• 2:09:20
  they drive me absolutely fucking insane, but there's someone here
• 2:09:24
  something unfortunately that's getting on my damn last crawl
• 2:09:28
  with Republicans. Is that did you know this on
• 2:09:32
  Twitter? They'll tell us about how the
• 2:09:34
  Liberals are gonna fuck us in the ass without Vaseline, but
• 2:09:37
  they won't do nothing about it. They're just gonna tell us like
• 2:09:40
  they're the news or something. They're gonna get up.
• 2:09:43
  That's how it's always been. That's how it is Luke.
• 2:09:48
  You know, all they want to do is just talk talk talk.
• 2:09:51
  And yeah, I'm pretty fed up with that as well.
• 2:09:54
  I hope Trump gets him because Trump's one of the few ones that
• 2:09:57
  actually does at least try to do something. but um You know Trump
• 2:10:05
  24 the rest of these people, you know, and it doesn't matter what
• 2:10:09
  side of the fence they are. They're all going to be pushing
• 2:10:12
  for the same stuff over and over and over again.
• 2:10:17
  And I feel that Trump's the only one who's going to be going in
• 2:10:20
  the opposite direction actually fulfilling what he's says or at
• 2:10:24
  least attempting to because that's exactly what he did
• 2:10:26
  before, um weeks against us so I get confused to because say that
• 2:10:32
  again too you kind of cut out I said, but he speaks against us
• 2:10:36
  so I get confused because you have a very popular opinion with
• 2:10:41
  a lot of our brothers and sisters where they feel like
• 2:10:44
  Trump is the only like like the lesser of all evils.
• 2:10:50
  Honestly, brother, I don't like any of them.
• 2:10:53
  I don't like bite. Okay, I blame you.
• 2:10:55
  I can't say I blame you but what I would say is don't listen to
• 2:10:59
  their words. Don't listen to either side's
• 2:11:03
  words. Listen to their actions.
• 2:11:05
  My father used to always say something to me and it rings
• 2:11:09
  true today as just as much as it rains true for his day and age
• 2:11:14
  actions speak louder than words. so if you all the time, yeah, if
• 2:11:22
  you see a guy out on the street, and he's getting up in another
• 2:11:25
  man's face and he's just running his mouth and the other guys
• 2:11:28
  just and The other guys just minding his own business.
• 2:11:34
  Who are you gonna be more scared of the guy who's running his
• 2:11:38
  mouth trying to rev himself up or the guy who's just standing
• 2:11:42
  there. Just staring at them dead in the
• 2:11:45
  eye and that's probably more afraid of Yeah, I know right?
• 2:11:50
  It's not just shit. I don't know if there be
• 2:11:53
  anything left of America by the time Trump man just get in.
• 2:11:57
  They don't assess me first. I've got point where I feel like
• 2:12:01
  there's so much damage done and even if he did do some good they
• 2:12:05
  the next idiot that comes along we'll just take everything away
• 2:12:08
  and reverse everything so that I don't know too much.
• 2:12:13
  I'll still vote on Trump because just for the simple fact that a
• 2:12:18
  lot of these pieces of shit are gonna have a heart attack when
• 2:12:20
  he gets power that's enough for me to at least have a smile for
• 2:12:25
  at least the first month, you know, they have Cthulhu running
• 2:12:28
  office instead. You know what?
• 2:12:31
  I think Brothers, I think that Trump was they thought he was
• 2:12:35
  going to be their puppet and they thought they were gonna be
• 2:12:38
  able to run him and then when he got in there they saw oh no,
• 2:12:42
  this guy isn't gonna be run by anyone exactly.
• 2:12:45
  You know what I mean. Now, they're trying to like get
• 2:12:47
  rid of them and people are like, well, no, he's actually the only
• 2:12:51
  one that did anything so they kind of fucked themselves, you
• 2:12:55
  know, and yeah, it's really funny because you go to like Six
• 2:13:00
  years before he actually ran and here's Hillary Clinton promoting
• 2:13:04
  Trump to get into August, right? Yeah.
• 2:13:09
  Oh Democrats were saying we want Trump and office and then Trump
• 2:13:14
  actually gets Robin. They're like, oh, yeah, you guys
• 2:13:18
  I want a woman president just as much as the next woman, but
• 2:13:21
  Hillary Clinton has no business. Running this country like at
• 2:13:27
  least at least the one good thing I would say about Hillary
• 2:13:30
  Clinton is at least she's had she has the intelligence.
• 2:13:33
  True run the country and yeah, I've I think she would probably
• 2:13:39
  run it better than say Kamala Harris or any of the most of the
• 2:13:44
  females that are in the running right now.
• 2:13:46
  The only woman who I would actually vote for right now.
• 2:13:49
  She's not running but that would be Trump's daughter.
• 2:13:53
  Forget. What her name is, Ivana, Ivanka.
• 2:13:58
  Yeah. Oh He has several daughters.
• 2:14:01
  Oh, yeah Von is actually a pretty talented person.
• 2:14:04
  She's right up there with him. She's got all of his brains.
• 2:14:09
  She was part of his cabinet and everything issue.
• 2:14:11
  She was running the show right there with him and she proved
• 2:14:15
  her chops in the White House and she would be about the only one
• 2:14:19
  right now that I would be most comfortable voting for I would
• 2:14:24
  vote for a heartbeat but You know his son there might have
• 2:14:30
  sons are pretty intelligent, but I have to give it to her.
• 2:14:32
  She's she's the fucking brightest of the Christmas tree
• 2:14:35
  for sure. Yeah.
• 2:14:37
  Oh, yeah. I mean they're they're all
• 2:14:39
  bright bowls. I mean hell you could put in his
• 2:14:42
  youngest son into office and I think we'd be ran just fine by
• 2:14:46
  it, you know his youngest um, but you're not good youngest
• 2:14:54
  kid. Don't School the littlest one.
• 2:14:57
  He's the biggest one. Yeah.
• 2:14:59
  I see that thing that it totally blew my mind.
• 2:15:04
  This guy came out and he had these books from the 1800s and
• 2:15:09
  they were written by Donald Trump's great great grandfather.
• 2:15:16
  Who was the one that took Tesla's stuff when he died
• 2:15:19
  remember? Yeah.
• 2:15:21
  They were called Barron Trump's a magical adventures or
• 2:15:27
  something and it was created in the 1800s and it had a picture
• 2:15:33
  on the cover and it looked just like Barron Trump and it talks
• 2:15:37
  all about how Barron Trump's father became president and that
• 2:15:41
  they had access to like a time machine or something like
• 2:15:48
  created by Tesla. Yeah.
• 2:15:51
  Did you guys see this? I see it was really only there
• 2:15:56
  was a thing going around for a couple months there, but it was
• 2:16:01
  kind of a underground type of rumor going that that Trump's
• 2:16:04
  family got a hold of some of Tesla's equipment and shed and
• 2:16:08
  on the time machine and that supposedly the youngest went
• 2:16:11
  back in time and wrote this in order to have a warning it's
• 2:16:16
  funny because it actually has his name and then it says the
• 2:16:20
  president in the book will be called the dawn Dion.
• 2:16:24
  So it's it's unbelievable how fuck similar does It kind of
• 2:16:30
  seen this. I mean, I think you and I were
• 2:16:32
  talking about this the other week when we were talking about
• 2:16:34
  time travel and everything. H she Wells was supposed to have
• 2:16:38
  a time of training time machine. Jules Verne said to have been
• 2:16:45
  able to predict the future and you know Tesla and with it with
• 2:16:49
  this I mean you know, I I think time travel is possible and I
• 2:16:53
  think some people might have actually achieved it but You
• 2:16:57
  know, and now we have this one rocket scientist this one
• 2:17:01
  astrophysis who says that he's cracked the code to time travel.
• 2:17:06
  All these people what when I was a therapist, I worked at
• 2:17:09
  Pendleton and there was a lot of guys over there with complex
• 2:17:12
  PTSD and stuff like that and there were people coming in
• 2:17:17
  there saying, oh I was I was in the 20 and back program and they
• 2:17:22
  would just automatically say, oh they're crazy and put them like
• 2:17:26
  in this crazy thing then cut to 12 years.
• 2:17:30
  Later. Trump is announcing the secret
• 2:17:32
  space program and this and the United States space force and
• 2:17:36
  he's coming out saying oh, yeah the 20 in back program.
• 2:17:39
  That's the thing, you know, and I'm like, wait a minute.
• 2:17:42
  It's the same thing. They did with Area 51 they said
• 2:17:47
  oh that doesn't exist. That doesn't exist.
• 2:17:48
  That's not real. Then when there's proof.
• 2:17:50
  Oh, yeah, it's real and so I'm just like I don't believe
• 2:17:53
  anything that our government says, I think they hide things.
• 2:17:56
  I think they lie. I think that you know, there's a
• 2:17:59
  I don't know about the cabal though because they come on
• 2:18:03
  saying that we are part of the cabal that luciferians and
• 2:18:06
  satanists are part of this and I'm like dude.
• 2:18:09
  I've been one for almost 20 years and I haven't heard of
• 2:18:12
  fucking thing about it, you know, where's my millions of
• 2:18:15
  dollars, right? Where's my million people where
• 2:18:19
  the is that I Spent all on some good lottery tickets.
• 2:18:22
  I'm getting I think one of the reasons why if I remember
• 2:18:26
  correctly whenever this Baron Trump thing in the Dawn book
• 2:18:30
  came out and people started looking into it and talking
• 2:18:33
  about it. It was about a couple months
• 2:18:35
  later that the Chinese how shall I say cold came out got to be
• 2:18:42
  careful talking about that on YouTube when that happened
• 2:18:45
  everybody changed their attention to that and nobody
• 2:18:49
  talked about the baron and said anymore.
• 2:18:51
  But if you just type in Tesla time travel Donald Trump Barron
• 2:18:56
  Trump loose for you'll find it. It was pretty major at that
• 2:19:00
  point but a big distraction happened.
• 2:19:02
  Yeah, I'll take a look into it. There is a there is a horrifying
• 2:19:07
  part to see that you didn't mention though.
• 2:19:09
  It says at the end of the book that I once he's gone the end of
• 2:19:14
  the world will come. right well Look, it is kind of scary.
• 2:19:21
  It's because you are going to rise up.
• 2:19:24
  You saw these are used to be I mean on lately about Patrick
• 2:19:29
  Kia's prediction because Padre Pio said that the three days of
• 2:19:32
  darkness what happened in March 2024?
• 2:19:36
  So now everyone's like, oh the banks are gonna take all of our
• 2:19:40
  money the three days of darkness are coming and all the
• 2:19:43
  Christians are freaking out. The only thing I got into this
• 2:19:48
  kind of discussion with a Christian friend of mine and she
• 2:19:51
  goes well, I have a question for you.
• 2:19:54
  And she goes and I bet you can't answer and I was like, okay and
• 2:19:58
  she said why then in the Bible in John and Peter, does it say
• 2:20:04
  that everything good will become evil and everything evil would
• 2:20:08
  become good. She goes, I feel like that's the
• 2:20:10
  very message of luciferians and Satanist.
• 2:20:13
  She's like you guys make everything good that's evil and
• 2:20:17
  everything evil. That's good.
• 2:20:18
  So you're fulfilling of Bible prophecy.
• 2:20:21
  And I'm like sitting here going. You just really you know, fuck
• 2:20:25
  with my brain. I I don't really know how to
• 2:20:27
  answer that. You're gonna have to give me a
• 2:20:29
  minute. You know, do you remember what
• 2:20:32
  caused the end and the the book? The predictions were very
• 2:20:38
  elusive, which was one one of them their likes muscles.
• 2:20:43
  Oh. Okay, so this is gonna blow you
• 2:20:47
  guys as mine and may even make some people out there nervous
• 2:20:50
  but one of the beliefs was that we were going to get hit by a
• 2:20:55
  meteorite and that it was going to cause like a third of the
• 2:20:58
  world basically die. Well guess what according to
• 2:21:02
  science and the next few years. There is a meteorite coming.
• 2:21:07
  That is a Planet Killer called apophysis.
• 2:21:09
  Yeah, that means that means it's named after the god raw, which
• 2:21:15
  is evil. So now the now the scientists
• 2:21:18
  are saying it's gonna miss us. It's gonna miss us, but for some
• 2:21:21
  reason a bunch of Rich leaders, they're building bunkers and
• 2:21:24
  shit and you don't think any of us are gonna get on any kind of
• 2:21:28
  rock and get out of here. Do you?
• 2:21:30
  Yeah how well I'm ready guys. Hope is that it's quick quick
• 2:21:36
  and painless exactly. I see we grill some hamburgers
• 2:21:40
  get under the darkest shadow of the meteorite that way we make
• 2:21:44
  sure it doesn't to spank us a little bit.
• 2:21:45
  It just ends it so we don't live in the Fallout universe.
• 2:21:49
  Oh great. So now it's gonna be like The
• 2:21:50
  Walking Dead right now a cigarette.
• 2:21:52
  Oh, what's happening? I'm I'm going out having fun,
• 2:21:58
  right? I mean if not having all of us
• 2:22:03
  gonna have fun actually. This just a giant orgy.
• 2:22:09
  You know if that happens I'm doing whatever the fuck I want
• 2:22:12
  like. pretty much do whatever the fuck I want now but Oh, it's
• 2:22:18
  gonna keep drinking and smoke some pot pull out a lawn chair
• 2:22:21
  to sit down have a Coke and smile and fuck up and wait for
• 2:22:25
  the end to happen. There you go.
• 2:22:30
  Give me a hell. Yeah.
• 2:22:33
  Me personally, I don't like thinking about.
• 2:22:37
  I really don't I mean why? Most people don't know what
• 2:22:41
  happens in the actual life. I've been dead before I've seen
• 2:22:43
  it. I got the t-shirt and you know
• 2:22:47
  like Why should I why should I be wanting to look forward to
• 2:22:53
  dying, you know like a Christian Wood and I'm here to live.
• 2:22:57
  I'm here to enjoy life. You know, I want the hamburger.
• 2:23:00
  I want the steak and I want my family why oh pretty woman.
• 2:23:07
  What happened to you when you died, brother?
• 2:23:11
  Oh, I was bitten by a great day. Oh, wow.
• 2:23:15
  I have my head half my brain hanging out in my head my
• 2:23:18
  eyeballs popped out of socket and I was like seven eight years
• 2:23:23
  old. Oh my God. here for 20 minutes
• 2:23:29
  Do you remember what your experience was?
• 2:23:32
  Yeah. He does Act. like I'm hearing a
• 2:23:39
  cat. Same that's my it's what?
• 2:23:44
  Oh, yeah meow. She likes to do that.
• 2:23:47
  Sorry. your daughter Yeah, my daughter was meowing at our
• 2:23:52
  cats. Oh, okay that says I thought I
• 2:23:55
  was losing my mind, too. she was going but but no, I mean I was
• 2:24:01
  dead for 20 minutes and I was shown God and God was not a nice
• 2:24:06
  person scared to Hell on me and I became an Uber Christian when
• 2:24:10
  I came back end up proven what I saw her, correct and I started
• 2:24:15
  studying different religions and eventually became a Wiccan.
• 2:24:19
  eventually a Satanist That's awesome.
• 2:24:22
  I died for nine minutes and 56 seconds.
• 2:24:26
  But I was dead for over 20 minutes.
• 2:24:28
  Yeah, that's a lot longer. That's why I'm saying like I
• 2:24:32
  can't even pick being gone that long.
• 2:24:35
  And I felt like you know, how like, there's no time.
• 2:24:37
  I felt like I was there forever, you know, yeah. and it's like
• 2:24:43
  here's the funny thing and anybody who's been dead will
• 2:24:46
  will be able to voucher for this.
• 2:24:49
  It's not like you're actually talking there you they first you
• 2:24:54
  perceive people talking but it's not really talking.
• 2:24:57
  It's there's yeah, they're presenting their intention and
• 2:25:02
  their understanding something and a lot of people try to say.
• 2:25:06
  Oh that's just demons lined here not why don't exist there.
• 2:25:10
  Yeah human invention. You can't lie there. right Right
• 2:25:17
  interesting question for you. I actually heard somebody asked
• 2:25:21
  Ken told them this question. I thought it was really fast and
• 2:25:24
  they didn't they they asked do you believe the devil or any of
• 2:25:29
  the goddesses can actually read our minds actually see within us
• 2:25:34
  internally or can they just predict our psychology?
• 2:25:38
  All the above. Yeah, that's what I was gonna
• 2:25:42
  say. I think it's both.
• 2:25:44
  Yeah, I mean as somebody that lives in the world of the mind
• 2:25:50
  And studied it so for too long, you know, I I thought about the
• 2:25:57
  separation of the two, you know, chicken before the egg one or
• 2:26:01
  the other and excuse me. Zagen Tiff.
• 2:26:05
  We should have told you this earlier but whenever somebody
• 2:26:08
  else is talking. Can you please mute your mic?
• 2:26:10
  Oh, yes. Sorry guys. like I was saying
• 2:26:15
  like, um Thinking about the chicken or the egg one or the
• 2:26:20
  other the mind or you know, is this voice reading or predicting
• 2:26:27
  or am I imagining this or protecting this into something
• 2:26:30
  else? And once I explore the one
• 2:26:34
  Avenue and after exploring the other and kind of see no, it's
• 2:26:38
  all on the same. My my dat tells me that he's
• 2:26:44
  been with me since I was born and anything that has come up
• 2:26:49
  anything that I have cheat anything that has happened in my
• 2:26:53
  life. That's just been this dance that
• 2:26:57
  it is beyond my understanding as it is now understand a little
• 2:27:02
  bit better now, but it's true meaning it's still something
• 2:27:05
  that I'm learning and and that sense.
• 2:27:08
  I don't see it as one or the other but all one and which I am
• 2:27:15
  to this they still learning. Going and grown from it.
• 2:27:18
  So that's my answer. Do you believe me and you lose
• 2:27:22
  her we were talking about the I don't know if they were Angels
• 2:27:27
  or goddesses about the weaving of the fate and destiny.
• 2:27:30
  Do you believe that your existences are predetermined?
• 2:27:34
  Basically, you're playing out a script like a role or do you
• 2:27:38
  believe that you have some free will to be able to actually make
• 2:27:42
  the choices you do? I've actually been bound by oath
• 2:27:46
  not to answer that sort of question. with you So you got
• 2:28:03
  really good. Oh the thing is.
• 2:28:10
  We're always talking about free will you know the Christians
• 2:28:13
  will say God gave us free. Will then?
• 2:28:16
  Yes Satanist who's fairings will be like, no the serpent was they
• 2:28:19
  on actually did it because God didn't want you to either the
• 2:28:23
  Apple. And she went ahead and did it
• 2:28:26
  but bringing in the whole story of the Greek Fates the three
• 2:28:30
  Fates who cut the lifeline they can measure it out and what not
• 2:28:34
  that brings into the whole notion of is it truly free will
• 2:28:38
  or isn't it? Well, if we listen to the same
• 2:28:41
  story of the Fates the even in that while most people's like
• 2:28:46
  lines are predetermined very specific people in the world.
• 2:28:52
  Can seize control of their own lifeline and extend it?
• 2:28:57
  or shorten it by their own actions or in actions by their
• 2:29:01
  own determinations by their own will and so I would say that for
• 2:29:06
  the strong for the actual truly strong-minded and the those
• 2:29:13
  people who are actually fully capable of making control of
• 2:29:17
  their lives, which is what the end goal of Satanism is is but
• 2:29:29
  yeah, somebody's playing with the Easter egg.
• 2:29:32
  Yeah, that's exactly what he is playing with is an Easter egg,
• 2:29:37
  um castle with the Easter egg. So lose for what do you feel
• 2:29:41
  about what your thoughts on compatibleism?
• 2:29:45
  compatibleism Yes, it's a view that I it's a view that I hold I
• 2:29:50
  feel as though the higher power has set some things in motion as
• 2:29:56
  predetermined. But I also believe that within
• 2:29:58
  this we have the parameters to be able to make human choice.
• 2:30:03
  So I do believe some things are predetermined and set in stone
• 2:30:06
  but predetermined points in history.
• 2:30:08
  It would be like saying World War Two was supposed to happen.
• 2:30:12
  You can't change it. It's going to happen.
• 2:30:14
  And then there are certain events during World War Two that
• 2:30:17
  you can't change but then there's larger scale things
• 2:30:22
  around that that you might be able to shift a little bit here
• 2:30:26
  and there but yeah, I could see something like that happening
• 2:30:30
  and that I believe would be the more definitive of things that
• 2:30:34
  Were people who are strong. Will they can they can change
• 2:30:38
  their own Lifeline? They can change their own
• 2:30:41
  destiny the in general, you know your average person.
• 2:30:47
  They are set on a predetermined course.
• 2:30:53
  And then you have these specific individuals who are more in
• 2:30:57
  control of their course through line.
• 2:30:59
  And then there's those points in history that I swear to you
• 2:31:04
  Nicodemus. I am going to throw something at
• 2:31:06
  you, but Wow, your cat is caused to the Future over there.
• 2:31:14
  You know I knows for all too. Yeah.
• 2:31:18
  Yeah, he's picking on our other cat right now.
• 2:31:20
  Yeah. Oh, yeah you and it's like yeah
• 2:31:26
  cat not at all anyways, so there are points in history.
• 2:31:31
  There's points and times on the natural course of the timeline
• 2:31:35
  that are pretty determined. Um that can't be changed.
• 2:31:41
  You know, it's going to happen one way or another and if you no
• 2:31:45
  matter how much you try to change it no matter how much you
• 2:31:48
  try to manipulate it. You might be able to manipulate
• 2:31:50
  events around it. But one way or another that
• 2:31:53
  determines thing is going to happen.
• 2:31:57
  We've seen this happen in numerous Sci-Fi movies that
• 2:32:01
  involve around time travel. I mean take a look at the Back
• 2:32:04
  to the Future series. It always revolves around a
• 2:32:07
  30-year time period and almost always goes back to 1955 to that
• 2:32:14
  one specific moment where the clock tower gets struck by
• 2:32:17
  lightning and at some point in time everything that series
• 2:32:21
  revolves around that in singular moment.
• 2:32:25
  Yeah. I agree with both of you because
• 2:32:30
  I feel like our choices and our decisions can influence maybe
• 2:32:36
  like there's a predetermined outline and we have like five
• 2:32:42
  possible paths that can come from, you know, one decision or
• 2:32:47
  something like that and that it's like set like that.
• 2:32:50
  You know what I mean? If you make this decision and
• 2:32:53
  this will happen if you make this decision and this will
• 2:32:55
  happen, but I don't really believe in fate because we can
• 2:32:59
  change our own Fates just like you were talking about brother
• 2:33:02
  Lucifer, you know, I think that it depends It kind of does go
• 2:33:07
  back to even the app everything like that.
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  Because if you look at free will as in she made the decision,
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  right? It's like almost an analogy for
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  all of us. Like we will know that there's
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  this path or this path and depending on what choice we
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  make. You know, that's where we're
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  going to be led down. But then it almost seems like
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  okay. Well everything's predetermined
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  after that but there's more choices to be made.
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  So how could that be? You know what I mean?
• 2:33:37
  Exactly, you know the pivoting point.
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  I'll remind everybody. Please meet your mics when other
• 2:33:44
  people are speaking the pivotal point.
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  If we look through Biblical history if you're talking about
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  free will. Even the apple on the serpent.
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  Is that pivotal point? Either Eve is going to take that
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  bite of that apple. And gain the knowledge of Good
• 2:34:03
  and Evil. or She's not going to she's going to fall at him.
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  So it's a it's either chooses to follow the Serpent's advice or
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  fall atoms advice and Eve at the end of the day.
• 2:34:18
  It's like all right, I'm gonna trust the serpent.
• 2:34:22
  So yeah, you know somebody named James navcroll.
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  No, I do not. I don't either sorry James.
• 2:34:31
  I don't know who you are. I'm not gonna ban you but nope.
• 2:34:35
  We're not doing that tonight. I'm gonna remind people who are
• 2:34:39
  watching unless we know unless Brett and I know exactly who you
• 2:34:43
  are unless we've communicated with you personally either on
• 2:34:47
  Facebook Twitter or some other place or even on here
• 2:34:50
  previously. We're not bringing you on to the
• 2:34:54
  show. We've had too many problems in
• 2:34:55
  the past. Sorry, nothing personal towards
• 2:34:58
  people who are good people but You know, we've had too many
• 2:35:03
  issues in the past and we don't really want to take that chance
• 2:35:06
  anymore. That's right.
• 2:35:07
  I'm tired of the Annoying treatment and you mentioned he
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  wasn't supposed to get you the Edward all the time.
• 2:35:13
  You you mentioned the choice that was made with the tree and
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  all that are some people believe it's some blism some people
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  believe of the story to be literal but there's there's one
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  element here that that's missing from the representation and
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  that's supposedly there's an omniscient omnipresent all
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  knowing entity that has put this thing right there and knew
• 2:35:37
  exactly what would happen if it's all knowledgeable.
• 2:35:39
  It's like it knew what was going to happen.
• 2:35:42
  Yes, the ultimate coupe, right? Remember the movie Devil's
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  Advocate Al Pacino right at the end.
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  Is this amazing speech and I'm gonna quickly look it up because
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  this this speech is absolutely phenomenal of the absentee
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  landlord. Yeah.
• 2:36:05
  You can touch but you can't yeah.
• 2:36:07
  Okay that is it an iconic. Speech.
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  Devil's Advocate speech it did to do.
• 2:36:19
  You know in order to get Al Pacino to play that figure Keanu
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  Reeves actually cut his own check in half to make sure that
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  patino could get on there. Oh man.
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  Yeah. Keanu he's just an amazing
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  person individual, you know. He really?
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  And everything he's been through in his life too.
• 2:36:43
  He's just he's a survivor. Okay, I got it right here guys.
• 2:36:57
  All right, okay. so John Milton, which is the devil in in the
• 2:37:05
  movie. He says, who are you carrying?
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  All those bricks for anyways God, is that it God.
• 2:37:13
  Well, I'll tell you let me uh, oh I tell you let me give you a
• 2:37:19
  little inside information about God God likes to watch.
• 2:37:24
  He's a prankster think about it. He gives man instincts.
• 2:37:29
  He gives you this extraordinary gift and then what does he do?
• 2:37:35
  I swear for his own Amusement for his own private Cosmic gag
• 2:37:41
  reel he sets the rules and opposition.
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  It's the Goof of all time. Look, but don't touch touch but
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  don't taste taste but don't swallow.
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  And you know while you're jumping from one foot to the
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  next what's he doing? He's laughing at six fucking ass
• 2:38:05
  off his tight. He's a tightest.
• 2:38:09
  He's a sadist. He's an absentee landlord
• 2:38:12
  worship that never better rain in Hell than to serve in heaven.
• 2:38:20
  Is that it? Why not?
• 2:38:23
  I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the whole thing
• 2:38:27
  began. I've nurtured every sensation
• 2:38:30
  man has been inspired to have. I care about what he wanted.
• 2:38:36
  I never judged him. Why because I never rejected him
• 2:38:40
  in spite of all his imperfections.
• 2:38:43
  I am a fan of man. I'm a humanist maybe the last
• 2:38:47
  humanist. Who in the right mind Kevin
• 2:38:51
  would possibly deny the 20th century is entirely mine all of
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  it Kevin all of it mine. Remember then he says now it's
• 2:39:07
  time to bang your sister. Yep.
• 2:39:12
  She's not a shit. I don't know who was hotter in
• 2:39:15
  that movie the the sister character or the the wife who
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  the who is she now? I'm gonna take myself because
• 2:39:26
  I'm a huge fan of her Charlize Theron.
• 2:39:29
  Thank you. Charlize Theron Who's hotter the
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  one who played the sister or Charlize Theron?
• 2:39:34
  Oh wife. I mean, she's still smoking hot.
• 2:39:39
  Yeah, she's gorgeous. I love her.
• 2:39:41
  I love her with black hair. all over with any hair color Oh, she
• 2:39:49
  could be bald and I think she's gorgeous.
• 2:39:53
  What do you guys think about that whole thing?
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  Over is actually the false god. and he is lying to all of us,
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  you know that whole satanic, you know that sexually becoming very
• 2:40:11
  popular satanic velocity. It's Gnostic philosophy.
• 2:40:15
  It's loose very in philosophy and a lot of satanists are
• 2:40:18
  adopting it. Yeah, and in our Traditions,
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  he's not called Jehovah. He's not called Yahoo.
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  He's called yellow or sequel or the demiurge.
• 2:40:30
  Oh, yeah. Okay.
• 2:40:31
  I see what you're saying. What do you think about brother?
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  About it makes sense. Me too.
• 2:40:39
  It really does make later God nobody not even satanists deny
• 2:40:45
  that the Christian God is a Creator deity.
• 2:40:47
  Nobody denies that right. Nobody ever has nobody's ever
• 2:40:51
  put that into contest. We've always said that the
• 2:40:54
  Christian God was the creator deity.
• 2:40:58
  But we've always said that he's a liar.
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  He's a deceiver when we look at Genesis in the Bible.
• 2:41:05
  We see that he told Adam that he was going to die the very day
• 2:41:09
  that he ate of that particular tree.
• 2:41:12
  And what happens when Adam into that tree, he gains not know if
• 2:41:16
  he doesn't die. He doesn't die for a thousand
• 2:41:19
  years and then you have all these Christian apologetics
• 2:41:21
  trying to explain it away, but it never really fails when you
• 2:41:25
  actually look at it that the author of Genesis knew what a
• 2:41:29
  day a year a week a month a thousand years were I think he
• 2:41:33
  made that very clear throughout the entire book.
• 2:41:36
  And so you know it pretty much we see right there.
• 2:41:40
  God told the first lie. So we're supposed to be against
• 2:41:43
  the father of Lies. Well, then who's the father
• 2:41:46
  alive, right? Couldn't couldn't somebody argue
• 2:41:51
  because the empathy claims they have all this malevolence and
• 2:41:54
  all this submission. Tommy presence all knowing to
• 2:41:58
  it. You know, we were talking about
• 2:42:00
  time travel earlier. To a God who is outside the
• 2:42:04
  space and time to it Judgment day would be the same day.
• 2:42:08
  You'd be born. You're like a Candle in the Wind
• 2:42:11
  right times different easy like a camera flash at best.
• 2:42:15
  So it would too, you know, so like just a little bit of a
• 2:42:23
  background for me to kind of put into context.
• 2:42:26
  Grandfathers on both sides Christian pastors.
• 2:42:29
  My dad is been an off and on Christian Pastor his whole life.
• 2:42:33
  I was raised in Catholic school. So and we went to different
• 2:42:39
  denominations growing up for various reasons.
• 2:42:41
  So my I've heard a lot of this like apologetics in person and
• 2:42:48
  people explaining it taking hours explaining it on Sunday
• 2:42:53
  afternoon. So what I always came back to is
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  like, you know these get out of jail cards, like when you have a
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  you try to have a discussion and in a in a non-judgmental way
• 2:43:07
  about scripture and points and discussion about you know God as
• 2:43:12
  it's a he's in the Bible or the way, he you know, He is, you
• 2:43:20
  know discussed about in and behind a Pulpit.
• 2:43:23
  It's like when you get to these points that you know, you have
• 2:43:27
  maybe even what went into realm of a certain denomination or you
• 2:43:31
  know believe if you're not realm, it's always like this get
• 2:43:35
  out of jail card. It's like well, you know it his
• 2:43:38
  plan is mysterious or he's outside of time and space and so
• 2:43:42
  we can't comprehend it. So it just leads to like
• 2:43:46
  denialism that you're saying it's like well if I'm never
• 2:43:49
  gonna comprehend God and why am I coming to church?
• 2:43:52
  Why am I trying to be a good person?
• 2:43:54
  Why am I trying to follow these tenants?
• 2:43:56
  If no matter what I do is just gonna be God's mysterious will
• 2:44:00
  if I can be super good my whole life, but then you know just
• 2:44:04
  serial killer in his last second says, I'm sorry and then him and
• 2:44:09
  I are hanging out together for the rest of Eternity.
• 2:44:11
  That's where he might have maybe even killed some of my family
• 2:44:14
  members. But because you said you're
• 2:44:16
  sorry the last second then he's going to like that kind of is
• 2:44:20
  bullshit because it's like what's the point?
• 2:44:23
  What is the point so I go back to like, you know, I don't mind
• 2:44:27
  discuss the scripture but there's always like these check
• 2:44:30
  get out of jail cards. Like well, he works in
• 2:44:32
  mysterious ways or we can't understand time like he does or
• 2:44:36
  his time is different. It's like come on, you know,
• 2:44:40
  it's like we if he saw this mysterious being then what's the
• 2:44:45
  point in coming and having these prophets and sending his own
• 2:44:48
  son? Because he sold off the world
• 2:44:50
  like it's all contradictory in it it within itself within his
• 2:44:55
  context. I don't have to go outside and
• 2:44:58
  look at Satanism to find counterpoints.
• 2:45:00
  The counterpoints are within. scripture even in within the
• 2:45:04
  same books even but you know Lucifer was just saying like He
• 2:45:10
  said that animal's gonna die that day and you live a thousand
• 2:45:12
  years like come on it. What is it?
• 2:45:14
  Is that a thousand years? Is it one day is it we're
• 2:45:17
  talking in dog years. Like it's always like these get
• 2:45:19
  out of jail cards, and it's not conducive to Faith because if if
• 2:45:25
  our God I want everything to be playing clear if I'm a preacher.
• 2:45:30
  I want to make things clear. So anybody off the street can
• 2:45:34
  call me here and grow and come to God as I understand.
• 2:45:38
  I see revealed himself to me but it's all this contradiction even
• 2:45:42
  went into text. So how are people supposed to
• 2:45:44
  say behind it and the productive in something that can be
• 2:45:49
  misinterpreted on purpose. It's so loose and it's
• 2:45:53
  contradictory. Sorry, it really is.
• 2:45:56
  No you're fine. You're fine.
• 2:45:58
  You're fine. But no you're exactly right, you
• 2:46:01
  know. And just like what we saw heard
• 2:46:05
  from Devil's Advocate. It's the ultimate goof.
• 2:46:07
  It's the sick twisted. Prankster Antics thing it's you
• 2:46:14
  know setting the rules in opposition.
• 2:46:16
  You know, what what is the point?
• 2:46:19
  What is the absolute point and And people don't want to read
• 2:46:24
  their scripture whatever religion they are in then why
• 2:46:27
  are they even in it? You know.
• 2:46:31
  I also don't really understand that whole concept of Jesus died
• 2:46:37
  for our sins. Like I'm sorry.
• 2:46:39
  I don't know if I'm the only person but that just doesn't
• 2:46:42
  make any sense to me. How really doesn't it shouldn't
• 2:46:47
  make sense. I mean you think about it.
• 2:46:49
  Jesus lived over 2,000 years ago.
• 2:46:53
  Yeshua of Nazarene lived 2000 years ago.
• 2:46:57
  I'm sorry, none of us were even a trickle to come on our Daddy's
• 2:47:01
  underwear. But by the time you know, we
• 2:47:04
  hadn't even been shot into our mom's coochies.
• 2:47:07
  And you were near the time that Jesus walked the Earth.
• 2:47:10
  Yeah, you know and I'm sorry to be putting it so bluntly and so
• 2:47:14
  crassly. No I get it.
• 2:47:17
  But you know not even our grandfather's were stain at that
• 2:47:24
  time. So how did he die for my
• 2:47:29
  Essence? He didn't die from my sins.
• 2:47:31
  He didn't know who I was. He didn't know who I was going
• 2:47:33
  to be. Yeah, it's just a logical. and
• 2:47:37
  and it also confuses me how there's so many Christians that
• 2:47:42
  say Jesus was God or God in human form, right?
• 2:47:48
  Well, okay then why would God have to Come in human form and
• 2:47:54
  then kill himself as his son to forgive us for all of our sins.
• 2:48:01
  It just look like now you're right on.
• 2:48:06
  It doesn't make sense whatsoever.
• 2:48:07
  And I'm not going to sit here and try to say you know religion
• 2:48:11
  is supposed to make sense. Absolutely it you know, I
• 2:48:16
  actually wrote something. And it was based off.
• 2:48:19
  I actually wrote something and it makes you know it.
• 2:48:22
  It's probably the best thing to say here.
• 2:48:25
  Give me a second. Let me see if I can find it. and
• 2:48:32
  this might take a minute. Is it?
• 2:48:48
  Here we go. Now here's the thing.
• 2:48:56
  That a lot of people don't really seem to understand and
• 2:48:59
  they try to rationalize religion.
• 2:49:01
  This is where atheists tend to fail.
• 2:49:04
  And they try to absolutely rationalize religion, but they
• 2:49:08
  fail to realize that religion isn't rational or Democratic or
• 2:49:14
  logical or fair and almost certainly not atheistic by any
• 2:49:19
  stretch or twisting of the term. Haven't we all learned that by
• 2:49:25
  now people don't want to come to a place of worship and get what
• 2:49:28
  they already have at home. They come for the religious
• 2:49:32
  ceremony or spiritual Gathering. They want to immerse themselves
• 2:49:37
  in the magic and mystery they want the rituals and the rights
• 2:49:40
  the Arcane the eccentric. The symbolic and the
• 2:49:44
  Transcendent they want to feel like the entered another realm
• 2:49:48
  when they brushed up against the clergy us.
• 2:49:53
  The ordained they want to feel the power of a wisdom that can
• 2:49:57
  guide them through the tribulations of their lives.
• 2:50:00
  That not what the duty of a clergyman is.
• 2:50:03
  Are we not to uplift Believers of any belief system?
• 2:50:08
  And transport them into another dimension to encourage them and
• 2:50:12
  give them strength to keep pushing forward.
• 2:50:16
  Or as our dictate change bringing them down to earth and
• 2:50:18
  reminding them of what they already know effectively
• 2:50:22
  anchoring them in place. I could go on with that but
• 2:50:28
  something that I got and I figured everybody would like to
• 2:50:32
  share a little bit of it. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 2:50:35
  Because like it hits right on the now like why do people seek
• 2:50:40
  religious gatherings and whether independent of faith and that is
• 2:50:45
  like, well I pointed out like in Christianity the the Sunday
• 2:50:51
  church service is a ritual in itself and people don't realize
• 2:50:57
  that when they're in it because they're so, you know a portrait
• 2:51:00
  it into it and you know those that have left Christianity. you
• 2:51:05
  know tend to seek at the aesthetic ritual because we do
• 2:51:10
  see the value and some of those components kind of like In AA,
• 2:51:14
  you know, you might not agree with any of the 12 Steps, but
• 2:51:18
  you know at the end of day here you have a gathering of people
• 2:51:20
  that are like-minded and they become your support system.
• 2:51:23
  So at the heart of it, you know, all humans kind of search for
• 2:51:27
  that. So it makes sense and the touch
• 2:51:31
  that you put upon about like, you know, what people are
• 2:51:34
  looking for in clergy and that's totally true.
• 2:51:38
  I mean, it's it concept of guiding does that are coming and
• 2:51:44
  the impart of the the ritual and being transposed into and trust
• 2:51:49
  me that whole that's a much larger lecture that I could go
• 2:51:54
  into. I mean I could continue with it
• 2:51:55
  people want me to but no I figure I just read a paragraph
• 2:51:59
  of it. Yeah that's enough for us to
• 2:52:01
  have a discussion about it. But you know, definitely that's
• 2:52:04
  we need to hear more about that and how you know, I take a
• 2:52:09
  person being clergy, but you know, I take that as Search to
• 2:52:15
  the people that are around me and in my circle is like what
• 2:52:19
  are we here to do and how to guide others and how to live as
• 2:52:22
  clergy. Yeah. the other thing the reason
• 2:52:28
  why it is entails and I realize this when I wrote a former
• 2:52:32
  nonbeliever was the you don't have any purpose you don't have
• 2:52:36
  any like objective purpose andtrinsic value and all this
• 2:52:41
  morality shit is nothing more than a constructed by man.
• 2:52:45
  So nothing matters, we're literally no more valuable than
• 2:52:49
  a fucking bottle of Windex animated hamburger and believe
• 2:52:54
  it or not. If you think about it without
• 2:52:56
  religion without some concept of a higher power or many We're
• 2:53:01
  literally predetermined chemicals that are simply
• 2:53:03
  stimulated by our environment like fucking parasites.
• 2:53:07
  I hate to put it that negatively but I realize oh boy, I need
• 2:53:12
  something a little bit more in my life than that fucking idea.
• 2:53:16
  Well, that's the whole point. Of exercise opening ironically.
• 2:53:20
  I got it from the crown. It was a part of a lecture that
• 2:53:23
  Queen Elizabeth in the crown as stated and I was like, you know,
• 2:53:27
  that sounds really good. Let's what I could do to work
• 2:53:30
  with this and then it was just literally that small section
• 2:53:34
  that I read, but then I made like a whole two pages out of it
• 2:53:38
  talk right you when you mentioned the purpose of life
• 2:53:44
  and Atheism I I think about one of like the most. and I and when
• 2:53:52
  I say difficult I the clients I refer to somebody that's that's
• 2:53:57
  not really open to change or even talking about stuff.
• 2:54:00
  It's just like we're going nowhere and one of them he is a
• 2:54:03
  devout atheists and he was in his fifties and he was not being
• 2:54:11
  he was having midlife crisis from Hell sort of speak.
• 2:54:14
  He was 50s and lift his life very, you know carelessly
• 2:54:21
  because he didn't really have a focus or purpose.
• 2:54:23
  You know, he got a career and nursing he's a male nurse and so
• 2:54:27
  he's like, that's just something I did it whatever my mom was a
• 2:54:31
  nurse. So I did it so it wasn't like
• 2:54:33
  even a reason like, oh, I want to help people eating and care
• 2:54:36
  about people he didn't care about himself, you know, so, you
• 2:54:39
  know life long have history of addiction as well to substances
• 2:54:44
  to kind of know that idea of like, I have no purpose and he'd
• 2:54:49
  been in a relationship for about I don't know.
• 2:54:53
  I think it was five years and Those shoes like maybe a little
• 2:54:58
  bit younger than he was she was probably yes.
• 2:55:01
  She was she was like in her late 30s early 40s, so he was
• 2:55:06
  obsessed with this idea of like I'm getting old and I want to
• 2:55:10
  have a child and my partner. Who already has her own child
• 2:55:16
  from previous relationship? She doesn't want to have another
• 2:55:19
  kid at near 40 and you know, it's like then he's thinking
• 2:55:23
  about I'm gonna break up with her and I have all these, you
• 2:55:26
  know, all these issues and our relationship because and only
• 2:55:29
  because she doesn't want children.
• 2:55:31
  Other than that, he loves spending time with her, but you
• 2:55:34
  know, they just keep getting into arguments and arguments and
• 2:55:37
  he was really working on trying to break up with her because she
• 2:55:41
  didn't want to have kids with him.
• 2:55:43
  He's like in his mid 50s. And he's like I want to leave
• 2:55:47
  something behind because nothing's gonna happen to me
• 2:55:49
  after our pass away. So they was like over consuming
• 2:55:53
  like he didn't sleep. He was stressing out about that
• 2:55:56
  idea so bad and you know just exploring all this and you know,
• 2:56:02
  just being blunt at some point and saying like, you know, that
• 2:56:07
  can't be the only way you define yourself if you're gonna have a
• 2:56:10
  kid or not and if it was and if it always has been kind of late
• 2:56:14
  for the game, you know, it's like you can be a step that
• 2:56:17
  through that kid that's been living on a roof for like five
• 2:56:19
  six years or not. Yeah. he yeah, so I mean like he
• 2:56:27
  had this opportunity to be a step down and fulfill that need
• 2:56:30
  but you know if he wants a biological it has to be
• 2:56:33
  biological and that's like You know like you don't get to have
• 2:56:37
  your cake and eat it. You don't get to have or
• 2:56:41
  whatever life without any meaning and then all sudden
• 2:56:43
  because you are afraid of your own mortality that you get to
• 2:56:47
  wake up and try to give it meaning and you know, push
• 2:56:51
  everybody away that is in signing up to your shit.
• 2:56:55
  That doesn't work out that way for anybody but it was like I
• 2:56:59
  could trace it back. It was like the atheist like
• 2:57:02
  mindset that he had about everything.
• 2:57:03
  It was just like nothing has meaning what's the point of it
• 2:57:07
  and then all the sudden it's like oh wait.
• 2:57:09
  I do want meaning it's like You know, it's like sometimes it's a
• 2:57:14
  little too late for some things and that's okay too, but it's
• 2:57:17
  not the end of the world but to him it was because he's nearing
• 2:57:21
  the end of everything of existence of anything that can
• 2:57:24
  happen. So it was a lot of it was the
• 2:57:28
  main calls for a lot of issues for him and it coming you stop
• 2:57:32
  coming. He didn't want to do anymore
• 2:57:33
  counseling because you can see the benefit of it anymore
• 2:57:37
  because you didn't see a benefit.
• 2:57:39
  I mean that was just him, you know refusing to take
• 2:57:42
  responsibility for his own actions or even in actions.
• 2:57:46
  I mean as you very well know in Satanism, we're allowed to have
• 2:57:49
  multiple partners if we so shoes we're allowed to even be
• 2:57:53
  polygamous if we so choose and something that a lot of people
• 2:57:57
  in Satanism don't quite yet. They they hear a lot to the
• 2:58:01
  Christian mindsets, but they forget that we're not
• 2:58:04
  Christians. We're not you know Bound by
• 2:58:07
  those constraints. Oh and we have no problem with
• 2:58:11
  Being older in life and wanting to finally have a kid but as a
• 2:58:16
  father myself. You know, my first words to them
• 2:58:20
  is or do you feel your responsible enough to be with
• 2:58:24
  that kid and like you said she had a stepchild that had lived
• 2:58:27
  with him for numerous years and suddenly he doesn't want to be a
• 2:58:29
  dad to this kid that he's been pretty much a dad to for all
• 2:58:33
  these years. And how's that child?
• 2:58:35
  Not it's how did how is his wisdoms and his knowledge and
• 2:58:40
  his, you know gifts not imparted on that child by the virtue of
• 2:58:44
  his presence. And that's the big thing.
• 2:58:47
  And so I know if you don't accept the fact that you've
• 2:58:50
  already imparted that wisdom onto another child, whether it's
• 2:58:54
  biological years or not. You don't get that shot again,
• 2:58:56
  or you know, you've had your chance to first show that you
• 2:59:01
  can do it once so say you did it once and your successful and you
• 2:59:06
  accept. Okay now I want to have a
• 2:59:09
  biological child as well as this and enjoy that livelihood again.
• 2:59:15
  And say you were a good parent say that's something that you
• 2:59:18
  that's what you wanted to be. You're defining moment in life
• 2:59:21
  was your children? Okay, that's a different story.
• 2:59:24
  But say like you said he didn't he didn't acknowledge his own
• 2:59:29
  stepchild as part of his legacy and we're what right does he
• 2:59:34
  have to try to impart that Legacy to a biological child at
• 2:59:38
  that point? Not only you know, what's really
• 2:59:40
  sad about this Sox about the story whether a person believes
• 2:59:45
  in a higher power or not. We have to believe one thing we
• 2:59:49
  have to all be convinced of as whether we agree or an orange
• 2:59:53
  and or not. We are all genetic Cosmic
• 2:59:57
  Family. So what do you have your own
• 2:59:59
  child or not? Every child is connected to you
• 3:00:02
  in some way every human being whether it's to Evolution any
• 3:00:06
  biogenesis or a higher power did it?
• 3:00:08
  So it's only six people separating everybody too bad.
• 3:00:14
  He couldn't you know, Because way around into that fucking
• 3:00:17
  atheist world view. He was too too stuck on his own
• 3:00:20
  thing though. Yeah.
• 3:00:22
  You know, go ahead Tipsy. He was saying that like a really
• 3:00:27
  really Very egotistical selfish worst reason to ever be a parent
• 3:00:35
  and he kept talking about himself and making it about him
• 3:00:39
  and his legacy and leaving somebody narcissist.
• 3:00:43
  Yeah, like completely it is a narcissist you you know that you
• 3:00:49
  know, that's a narcissistic trait because he was only seeing
• 3:00:53
  it as an extension of himself rather than the autonomy of the
• 3:00:58
  child, you know what I mean? And that the child didn't have
• 3:01:01
  to be anything like him. What if the complete opposite of
• 3:01:05
  him. Would he still love it?
• 3:01:08
  Would have been a real kick in the fucking hand.
• 3:01:10
  We'll let the kid would have ended up going to Sunday school
• 3:01:13
  with it. Oh boy, right doesn't matter
• 3:01:17
  what my son Jesus to do it. You know, I still love them to
• 3:01:21
  death no matter what and there's plenty of things where he's a
• 3:01:23
  complete opposite of me on and like 90% of stuff.
• 3:01:27
  I'm already gonna let us say he's not a very big reader he
• 3:01:32
  struggles with that. He wants to go off and do his
• 3:01:35
  own thing and I love them to death even though he doesn't
• 3:01:39
  want to do what he needs to do first.
• 3:01:41
  And there's plenty of times when I want to strangle them Go Bart,
• 3:01:46
  but at the end of the day, I still love them.
• 3:01:50
  I understand that's compatible by brother.
• 3:01:53
  Yeah, some people they're not wanting an actual child though.
• 3:01:57
  What they're wanting as a carbon copy of themselves that they can
• 3:02:00
  buy carelessly live through and that's a that's no way to do it
• 3:02:04
  because kids are You're Gonna Learn real quick anybody that's
• 3:02:08
  a parent and here, you know this and you have a kid, they're
• 3:02:12
  gonna end up getting a mind of Their Own by three and I can be
• 3:02:16
  fucking totally different than what you demand.
• 3:02:18
  Yep. I don't want to carbon coffee,
• 3:02:21
  but I flat out me and Diana, we we flat out told him as soon as
• 3:02:25
  he's of age. He's out that door.
• 3:02:29
  I feel like you have no mercy. like what you hope they will be
• 3:02:35
  or like what you wish for them. And if they achieve it it's like
• 3:02:40
  a beautiful thing and you're you're so proud as the parent
• 3:02:44
  but then the test really comes when they're nothing like you
• 3:02:48
  and they do something that would really upset you.
• 3:02:51
  It's like it's the test of unconditional love, you know
• 3:02:55
  what I mean and like something I've been noticing lately.
• 3:02:59
  I don't know if you guys notice this I've been in this, you know
• 3:03:05
  Community for over two decades and something that's very
• 3:03:12
  common. Is a lot of pagans a lot of
• 3:03:15
  satanists a lot of people that tend to Rebel, you know, I put
• 3:03:21
  that in quotes against societal conditions.
• 3:03:27
  Have trauma and they have turned to this community because
• 3:03:33
  they've experienced trauma and this is the only place they feel
• 3:03:37
  accepted loved unconditionally no matter who what whatever they
• 3:03:43
  choose to be. You know what I mean?
• 3:03:45
  It's like a lot of us are had abusive parents or don't have
• 3:03:49
  parents at all or you know experience something horrible.
• 3:03:52
  Then there's that opposite where people did have the family, but
• 3:03:56
  maybe they were Overexposed to a religion that they really didn't
• 3:04:00
  want to be a part of But their parents wouldn't let them.
• 3:04:05
  Just be and they wouldn't love them in spite of it.
• 3:04:10
  You see what I'm saying? It's like a common theme. well,
• 3:04:14
  yeah, and I think that's where the idea of the Metaphysical
• 3:04:20
  counseling comes into play because I am very well aware of
• 3:04:24
  the idea that you know Outsiders don't are on the outside for
• 3:04:29
  internal external reasons. And yeah, of course, you're
• 3:04:33
  pushed out of society you don't fit in so you're gonna explore
• 3:04:36
  these are things like substance use like the occult like
• 3:04:41
  alternate whatever anything that's in the outer Fringe and
• 3:04:46
  yeah, that's where you find your home.
• 3:04:48
  That's where you feel like, okay here I'm accepted and you know,
• 3:04:52
  very early on I had the idea of like You know, why do I try to
• 3:04:58
  fit in to be like these assholes that I see every Sunday and
• 3:05:02
  Wednesday when I can just be myself and if I'm gonna be
• 3:05:07
  myself and go to hell then hell's the place for me then
• 3:05:10
  because this is where I can be myself.
• 3:05:13
  I love myself. I'm happy with who I am and but
• 3:05:18
  I have to be something I'm not to make other people happy so I
• 3:05:22
  can then make this being in the sky happy as well.
• 3:05:25
  Like I don't fade into that and I never will and what I do fit
• 3:05:29
  in is being myself and if that's you know labeled as a sinner as
• 3:05:34
  this and that villain whatever so be it, but at the end of the
• 3:05:39
  day, I'm gonna sleep and I'm gonna be me I wake up in the
• 3:05:42
  morning. I'm still gonna be me.
• 3:05:43
  And so I'm not gonna shape who I am what I think for anybody
• 3:05:47
  else. At all, I'm just not going to do
• 3:05:52
  that anymore. You know, I mean, I understand
• 3:05:55
  that. Yeah, right.
• 3:05:56
  I mean it is very common. We'll have Jada pass.
• 3:05:59
  We are all very Unique Individuals and are backgrounds
• 3:06:03
  are very unique and different. And talk about the parents.
• 3:06:07
  It just I don't know it the the biggest joke to me or the
• 3:06:12
  funniest thing that I think I've done in my in my life so far is
• 3:06:17
  that when I was being raised by my dad, you know, like I told
• 3:06:21
  you Pastor but he had like this huge library and his thing that
• 3:06:26
  he kept pushing on me was I want you to be free thinker free
• 3:06:30
  thinking read read and I did and I mean, you know philosophy
• 3:06:34
  books and all this kind of stuff like when I was like eight or
• 3:06:37
  seven, so I was a free thinker and then around I don't know 12
• 3:06:40
  13, I got my hands on the satanic five won't start again
• 3:06:44
  my hands on. Oh cold books that he didn't
• 3:06:46
  have in this library, but I'll still that kind of winning line
• 3:06:50
  with some of the philosophical books, especially nature.
• 3:06:54
  So, He didn't like that and he threatened to kick me out of the
• 3:06:58
  house many times and I just just laughed at him and I would say,
• 3:07:05
  you know, I told I thought you told me to be a free thinking
• 3:07:09
  and yeah, I'm exploring different mindsets and figuring
• 3:07:14
  things out for myself and you're saying that this is wrong and it
• 3:07:18
  just made me laugh. It was like this is very much
• 3:07:19
  like in Genesis, you know, it's like be free and do whatever but
• 3:07:24
  don't do this you do this. You're gonna die and it's like
• 3:07:27
  it Hypocritical and wisdom and wisdom and control and wisdom
• 3:07:33
  and it's like you you can do this, but you can't do that and
• 3:07:36
  it's like then you really then I'm not really free.
• 3:07:40
  You know, yeah. I don't just make me laugh.
• 3:07:43
  I still laugh about it. My grandpa's Cherokee.
• 3:07:49
  And he said that there was a Cherokee Chief.
• 3:07:53
  That was being like he was on his knees in front of these
• 3:07:57
  missionaries. He's being questioned by a
• 3:08:01
  Christian missionaries, and they said will you repent of your
• 3:08:04
  sins and accept Jesus Christ so you can go to heaven. and the
• 3:08:10
  Cherokee Chief was like Oh, well who's gonna be in this heaven?
• 3:08:15
  And they like looked around each other like well, we are and
• 3:08:18
  people like us. And he goes no, you can kill me.
• 3:08:21
  Please like dead then be with people like you for eternity.
• 3:08:26
  Yeah. I was a kill me.
• 3:08:30
  Yeah, that's all I can say to that is damn.
• 3:08:35
  I agree, you know more hardly. Oh.
• 3:08:39
  Tabular trigger, come on, exactly.
• 3:08:43
  Exactly, and that's the sad thing, you know a lot of us had
• 3:08:48
  to come from that Christian background.
• 3:08:51
  And this is something that most Christians don't understand it
• 3:08:54
  is How could somebody who came from that background walk away
• 3:08:57
  so thoroughly from it and number one anything to do with it
• 3:09:00
  again. And you know, I think right now
• 3:09:04
  Brett who's sort of exploring our world through Us by carry
• 3:09:10
  asleep. He's starting to see why that
• 3:09:13
  would happen. Am I correct, correct?
• 3:09:16
  Yeah, I can understand. I can also understand why
• 3:09:19
  there's people out there who've lost their faith and a higher
• 3:09:23
  power completely. I just think that they become
• 3:09:26
  the very monsters that they are fighting against if that makes
• 3:09:30
  sense. Yeah.
• 3:09:32
  Absolutely. I found one of the clips that
• 3:09:35
  you played at the beginning of the show, very interesting.
• 3:09:37
  It actually surprising that you had enough balls.
• 3:09:40
  To put Adolf Hitler up front and let people hear his words.
• 3:09:47
  Well, it's really easy to look back in history and just paint
• 3:09:51
  somebody and having no reason or purpose just it played out like
• 3:09:56
  somebody's absolutely psychotic that whatever they had to say.
• 3:09:59
  It doesn't even matter. You'll just put your own ideas
• 3:10:02
  to it, but I thought it was interesting the AI brought his
• 3:10:06
  his actual voice out in a way where people can translate and
• 3:10:11
  understand it what his deal was and you know, it was really
• 3:10:15
  interesting because we get played so many of Hitler's
• 3:10:19
  speeches nowadays that it's never translated.
• 3:10:23
  We almost never get to hear them translated at all and to hear
• 3:10:27
  the AI translate and say hey, whoa, you know, here's the
• 3:10:31
  Jewish people. We need to help them.
• 3:10:34
  And it was like whoa, wait a second what it said what?
• 3:10:40
  And I don't know if that was the AI whitewashing what Hitler said
• 3:10:45
  or not, but it was very interesting word word for word
• 3:10:49
  in the same pitch as his voice if he was actually speaking
• 3:10:53
  English. It's crazy. your microphone tip
• 3:11:00
  They also say that the brill helped him right and that they
• 3:11:06
  gave him all this technology and they backed him and that he had
• 3:11:11
  all of these crazy ideas about technology. but when they were
• 3:11:20
  releasing those documents, right?
• 3:11:24
  And people were reading what actually was reported.
• 3:11:29
  This woman that was helping him. actually said almost word for
• 3:11:35
  word, but he was saying at the beginning and she was talking
• 3:11:38
  about helping the Jewish people and that she wanted to bring you
• 3:11:45
  know, a different type of technology to all of the people
• 3:11:49
  all over the world because we were being enslaved by being
• 3:11:55
  only told about one type of Technology.
• 3:11:58
  You know and stuff like that and that our economy was trying, you
• 3:12:02
  know to just basically be controlled by these people and
• 3:12:07
  I'm like not a fan of Flat Earth theory or anything like that.
• 3:12:11
  I'm I think that's kind of like way out there but I do believe
• 3:12:15
  Admiral bird when he said that he saw something over there and
• 3:12:20
  when he said he saw Nazi base, I believe like why would he come
• 3:12:25
  and make that up? You know and then why did our
• 3:12:29
  government all of a sudden need to completely discredit this man
• 3:12:32
  a man who was an admirable and admirable man?
• 3:12:38
  like things where did he say that he saw this basin?
• 3:12:43
  So when he did project. High jump and paperclip,
• 3:12:48
  depending on where you look they call it something different, but
• 3:12:52
  when he went down there, he took a fleet.
• 3:12:55
  With our it was of our Navy he you know, he was an actual
• 3:12:59
  Admiral in the Navy. And it was on television on the
• 3:13:06
  news. He did like a little.
• 3:13:08
  Interview about it and everything you can like look it
• 3:13:12
  up on YouTube. But a lot of these Flat Earth
• 3:13:16
  people have taken this footage that's real.
• 3:13:19
  Right and they've like sliced it into their stupid ass tiktoks.
• 3:13:24
  So then people are like, oh that they don't even want to listen
• 3:13:27
  to it because they're they don't think it's real but that part is
• 3:13:31
  actually real he actually really did go over there and then when
• 3:13:35
  he came back, he said Hey listen, I went past the North
• 3:13:40
  Pole. We flew into the Earth.
• 3:13:44
  We actually went into the Earth. And we saw some crazy shit down
• 3:13:49
  there. And he also found Nazi. aircraft
• 3:13:56
  and other strange things He came back over here to tell us and he
• 3:14:03
  actually met a man over there. Who was what he described as
• 3:14:09
  someone that seems spiritually. Above anyone he had contact with
• 3:14:16
  her new in life, he seems very so it was called operation high
• 3:14:23
  jump and one we art it was the Antarctic developments program
• 3:14:27
  1946 through 1947. Also called task force 68 or you
• 3:14:36
  Project paper clip or operation paper clip that's that was you
• 3:14:40
  know, I'm not seeing that right here, but I'm on the Wikipedia
• 3:14:43
  page. So of course it's not going to
• 3:14:45
  talk about the crazy stuff. But yeah Expedition the secret
• 3:14:54
  Land was filmed entirely by the military photographers.
• 3:14:57
  Both United States Navy and US Army and narrated by actors
• 3:15:02
  Robert Taylor Robert Montgomery, and then Heflin It features
• 3:15:08
  Chief Naval operations Fleet Admiral Chester W Nimitz.
• 3:15:13
  In a scene where he is discussing operation high jump
• 3:15:17
  with Admiral's bird and cruising the film reenacts scenes of
• 3:15:21
  critical events such as shipboard damage control.
• 3:15:25
  And Admiral bird throwing items out of an airplane to lighten it
• 3:15:30
  to avoid crashing into a mountain it won the 1948
• 3:15:34
  academic Award for best documentary.
• 3:15:36
  Well, I've had a lot of flat earthers on the show in the past
• 3:15:43
  and they're extremely difficult to deal with no matter how much
• 3:15:47
  information you give them one of the stories that they usually
• 3:15:51
  push is that Antarctica that there's a big ice wall around
• 3:15:56
  this Flat Earth and then on top of it if you go higher there's a
• 3:16:00
  dome over the earth now once ironic about these folks is they
• 3:16:05
  believe we're shielded under this big thick ass fucking like
• 3:16:08
  permanent, but somehow they also believe aliens managed to get in
• 3:16:14
  here. Okay.
• 3:16:15
  So what is it that we have a big bubble over to fucking planet?
• 3:16:18
  Is there a little doorway somewhere where the green people
• 3:16:21
  get in? That's what you know, I think
• 3:16:26
  they beat me down Scotty. I don't know anybody, you know,
• 3:16:29
  but I I won't make fun of anybody but I believe in in
• 3:16:33
  extra terrestrials, you know, I think that that is very very
• 3:16:37
  true. But the flatter thing I think
• 3:16:41
  they're combining. Truth, in fact with fiction
• 3:16:46
  which happens all the time. I think people get like little
• 3:16:49
  Snippets of the truth and then they combine it with these
• 3:16:53
  massive lies because that's what our government does.
• 3:16:56
  That's what Society does that's how they condition.
• 3:16:59
  That's how everybody operates. You know what I'm saying?
• 3:17:03
  Like I noticed a big trick is this filtering out?
• 3:17:07
  What is true? And what is not true?
• 3:17:09
  Right? Well the problem with plantar
• 3:17:11
  too. So Gypsy is that a lot of them
• 3:17:14
  that I've had in the room. You can hear my voice my tone.
• 3:17:17
  I'm very chill and laid back. I'm willing to hear anything and
• 3:17:21
  I'm willing to let people talk and tell them blue in the face.
• 3:17:23
  Hey, but these fucking people they they get really from now
• 3:17:29
  real quick. They get triggered very quick if
• 3:17:32
  you ask them anything or you say but what about this or what
• 3:17:37
  about this or like I hear a fucking globally very, you know,
• 3:17:40
  you're a ball believer like, okay.
• 3:17:43
  So it gets in the ad homes in less than 15 minutes in the
• 3:17:47
  discussion and no matter how many times I say calm down.
• 3:17:49
  I want to hear you. I want to understand why you
• 3:17:52
  believe this now fuck you, you know, so it's it's never been
• 3:17:56
  really a good deal. Like why can't anybody find the
• 3:17:59
  edge of the Earth? Right.
• 3:18:01
  Where's this wall? Why can't we get to this wall?
• 3:18:04
  Will you seem they've shown the ice wall?
• 3:18:07
  So that's what they're using which there is a nice wall.
• 3:18:12
  That is a fact that's true. We've seen it but I don't think
• 3:18:17
  it's doing what they're thinking that it's doing, you know what I
• 3:18:21
  mean, which is like keeping the secret of the fact that the
• 3:18:24
  Earth is flat. No, I think that is some sort of
• 3:18:28
  strange thing that is now becoming popular because there
• 3:18:34
  are things that are unexplained and they don't have the reason
• 3:18:37
  so they're just making one up, you know what I mean?
• 3:18:40
  It's like a lot it's it's motivated reasoning when they
• 3:18:44
  start acting like that. You know what I mean?
• 3:18:46
  So when you're saying an ice fall to what are you talking
• 3:18:50
  about? Well when you go to Okay.
• 3:18:53
  Remember when Metallica did the show in in Antarctica?
• 3:18:57
  Mm-hmm. Okay, so you can even see the
• 3:19:01
  ice wall. People have gone.
• 3:19:03
  Oh, there's numerous eyeballsers.
• 3:19:06
  Yeah. Yeah, they believe it's
• 3:19:08
  surrounds the Earth like a ring. It's flat and then it surrounds
• 3:19:12
  it all see the ice. Won't showing someone my fence
• 3:19:18
  right and taking like video of my fencing going.
• 3:19:21
  Look. This is keeping everyone in the
• 3:19:24
  entire world out. And also there's a globe that
• 3:19:28
  you can't see because of this fence.
• 3:19:30
  So it's like the fence is there. Yes the fence exists but it's
• 3:19:35
  not doing what you think. It's doing, you know, yeah not
• 3:19:40
  going all around the world. And the problem with these folks
• 3:19:43
  is that it goes beyond just the Flat Earth.
• 3:19:46
  If you continue to go out of my on this it gets to the point
• 3:19:50
  where there's no Universe other planets or bullshit because
• 3:19:53
  you're obviously going to say well, how do you explain
• 3:19:56
  Jupiter? It's fucking round.
• 3:19:57
  It's here shaped and you start naming our planets and they're
• 3:20:01
  gonna start telling me it's Holograms and that the Moon is
• 3:20:04
  literally closer within side to Globe.
• 3:20:06
  You see what I mean? It starts getting really fucking
• 3:20:09
  potato dish. Yeah, it goes all the way to
• 3:20:12
  NASA where like NASA has been perpetuating this line.
• 3:20:17
  Obviously, I don't know about like if maybe they do lie about
• 3:20:21
  some of their pictures or whatever and that just became
• 3:20:25
  this huge conspiracy. because I think that's what happens like
• 3:20:29
  just like a tiny little bit of Truth or a nugget of Truth turns
• 3:20:35
  into this massive ball of psychotic just made up stuff.
• 3:20:41
  Like it's that game telephone, you know, someone says sentence
• 3:20:45
  it gets passed on by the time it's at the line.
• 3:20:49
  It doesn't make any sense and it's not the message from the
• 3:20:52
  beginning exactly. And the thing is is no NASA does
• 3:20:56
  not show us all the pictures. I mean all the pictures that
• 3:20:59
  NASA has shown us can probably be viewed in less than 20
• 3:21:04
  minutes throughout the entire timeline now since Space Program
• 3:21:08
  You know, we don't have you know that sort of proof and they're
• 3:21:12
  not going to show us all the video footage either.
• 3:21:14
  I mean you watch the video footage they release and very
• 3:21:18
  seldom. Does it go beyond a minute or
• 3:21:21
  two, right, you know, even the more lengthy stuff you have to
• 3:21:26
  really request and they don't really show very much.
• 3:21:30
  Did you ever see the did you ever see the video?
• 3:21:32
  I showed this Flat Earth. There's a while back and this
• 3:21:36
  this caused a lot of aggravation.
• 3:21:38
  But have you ever heard of a space diver before?
• 3:21:41
  Yeah, did you guys see the clip where the guy actually he gets a
• 3:21:47
  funding to go above the atmosphere the Earth shows it
• 3:21:50
  off and then decide to jump out of the rocket and literally fly
• 3:21:54
  all the way through the fucking atmosphere.
• 3:21:56
  Look he's catching on fire, but he managed to survive crazy
• 3:22:01
  shit. I don't explain that.
• 3:22:05
  It's crazy. That's the ultimate Skydive and
• 3:22:10
  my opinion. I'd be like, oh shit.
• 3:22:13
  I'm gonna die. It's time.
• 3:22:15
  Yeah, it's kind of boring. Just watch it's like Wow when he
• 3:22:21
  jumps out, but it looks like a little dot Falling Towards the
• 3:22:25
  Earth. So I went ahead and put a heavy
• 3:22:27
  metal version a Night Rider to it and that made a lot more
• 3:22:30
  exciting it cool. But yeah, you know, it looks
• 3:22:35
  like you're about ready to conk out there Tiff.
• 3:22:39
  We get all sorts of comfortified.
• 3:22:41
  Yeah, I'm just getting relaxed, you know.
• 3:22:47
  But you know, it's been a pretty good show.
• 3:22:52
  And whatnot. It has been a good show.
• 3:22:55
  Actually it really has been but we're nearing the three and a
• 3:22:58
  half hour mark. So do we have any other subjects
• 3:23:02
  that we want to continue with? That's a minute.
• 3:23:05
  I've actually been the most Chill on this.
• 3:23:08
  Podcast you have been you have been good.
• 3:23:10
  You took your meds. Yeah, I did.
• 3:23:14
  I did. I took my meds.
• 3:23:17
  What do you guys think? You said you were looking for
• 3:23:20
  some more topics. She kind of reminded me of
• 3:23:23
  something where she was talking about those folks going
• 3:23:26
  underground and seeing the Nazis and all that if you guys ever
• 3:23:29
  heard of the Art Bell incident, yes.
• 3:23:33
  I can't say that I have I mean, it sounds familiar nine nine
• 3:23:37
  nine would just be you want to give it to him and we'll see if
• 3:23:41
  we're on the same page here. L radio show years ago and he
• 3:23:49
  started saying all this crazy shit.
• 3:23:52
  Any freaked a lot of people out. But you've since heard that he
• 3:23:57
  called back again. And then he came out and
• 3:24:00
  debunked himself. Said told everyone who he was
• 3:24:04
  and said, oh I was just lying. Well the Art Bell because he was
• 3:24:10
  a radio guy. There was a lot of incidences
• 3:24:13
  but the one I thought that would really get you guys excited was
• 3:24:16
  the one where he basically said that they found this extremely
• 3:24:21
  large hole that was going deep into the Earth and that some
• 3:24:25
  people went down into it and they said that they could hear
• 3:24:29
  the sounds of laughter and and weird shit.
• 3:24:32
  They basically believe they found a hole that goes directly
• 3:24:36
  into hell. Oh that one.
• 3:24:39
  Oh, yeah. Crazy guy, that'd be interesting
• 3:24:43
  that reminds me of the really what is the cola the cola
• 3:24:49
  borehole? Has anybody heard of the cola
• 3:24:54
  borehole? It sounds like Bungholio, but go
• 3:24:58
  for it. All right, so way back when?
• 3:25:03
  America and the USSR we were all in the Great Space Race see who
• 3:25:09
  could get into outer space the fastest, but we were also in
• 3:25:12
  another type of race to see who could dig the deepest into the
• 3:25:17
  Earth. and You know America, we had all these plans of going to
• 3:25:22
  the bottom of the ocean digging down and and even then we did
• 3:25:27
  not dig very deep. But in Russia, there's this hope
• 3:25:32
  and it's no more than this big. Okay, it's called the cola
• 3:25:37
  borehole. This son of a bitch goes seven
• 3:25:41
  miles into the Earth. one big long hole and they stopped
• 3:25:48
  dicking. I mean even after the whole
• 3:25:51
  Space Race and digging race whole race was done.
• 3:25:55
  They were still drilling this whole just for shits and giggles
• 3:25:59
  of it. I mean they weren't they were
• 3:26:01
  just curious how deep could we dig?
• 3:26:04
  And so they kept on digging. Well one day they actually sent
• 3:26:09
  in a microphone. and before and to listen to what it could hear
• 3:26:17
  and before the microphone somehow got burned up.
• 3:26:24
  Because they tried to send in cameras cameras failed after a
• 3:26:27
  while. And because he started coming up
• 3:26:32
  out of it. Well the microphone caught
• 3:26:34
  something and it actually recorded something.
• 3:26:36
  And it sounded like screaming. like a thousands of souls
• 3:26:42
  screaming and they were like we're recording sounds of hell.
• 3:26:50
  And you can actually listen to it.
• 3:26:51
  I'm gonna let me give me give me one quick second.
• 3:26:56
  The average I think we found Hill I think we got the
• 3:26:59
  discontinued the project. It's one of the weird things
• 3:27:02
  that I because you know, I got a little bit of studio equipment
• 3:27:06
  over here. When I heard the sound that Art
• 3:27:08
  Bell claiming that he was here and all these noises and shit.
• 3:27:12
  It did sound scary and spooky and all that but I ran the thing
• 3:27:16
  through this thing called cool let it pro and then I brought up
• 3:27:20
  the pitch and it's so weird because when you listen to the
• 3:27:23
  original recording, it does sound like screams and yelling
• 3:27:26
  and people and torment but then when you speed up the pits to a
• 3:27:31
  normal human tone, it sounds like a bunch of people at oh
• 3:27:35
  like a ballet or something like they're just chilling out at a
• 3:27:39
  party or something just right. So I put the link to the audio
• 3:27:43
  recording. There's it's a two minute video
• 3:27:45
  and audio recording to the whole And it's the coolest super deep
• 3:27:53
  borehole Russia hell sound. And yeah, I got a two minute
• 3:27:59
  sound clip of it. And you can you can go listen to
• 3:28:05
  it really quickly if you want. How'd you posted that into the
• 3:28:19
  comments for people? Yeah, I did.
• 3:28:40
  Here's a quicker. It'll take it right.
• 3:28:49
  Yeah, I I posted another link that'll take you right into the
• 3:28:54
  audio. Looks like we lost somebody here
• 3:29:01
  we lost. Las Vegas There we go.
• 3:29:10
  Yeah. Yeah, I'm listening this it
• 3:29:15
  sounds this sounds a lot like the Art Bell thing.
• 3:29:19
  But if you listen to it about 120 years cool when you listen
• 3:29:24
  to about one minute and 22 seconds in where the big part of
• 3:29:28
  the sound is if you listen real closely and you were to speed
• 3:29:32
  that up a little bit to earn the speed up on YouTube.
• 3:29:35
  It literally sounds like an audience clapping.
• 3:29:39
  I mean, it sounds a horrible little pitch.
• 3:29:47
  So what do you think gypsy? I just don't know what to think
• 3:29:51
  about stuff like that. You know what?
• 3:29:53
  I mean you. Did you listen?
• 3:29:56
  Yeah, I did and I've heard it before but it reminds me of that
• 3:30:01
  woman who came forth with. a tape that said was angels
• 3:30:08
  singing, you know, or like the shroud of terrine or whatever.
• 3:30:13
  It's like I don't know. Is it hell is?
• 3:30:18
  Angels is it Jesus's face? I don't fucking know but I'm not
• 3:30:23
  gonna believe it. You know, I don't know I guess
• 3:30:26
  my ego. Like I don't want to feel I
• 3:30:28
  think that's a very interesting thing. to I think it's just a
• 3:30:38
  very interesting thing to Here and be like whoa.
• 3:30:42
  Yeah, good. Listen to the audio.
• 3:30:44
  Zagan. Yeah, I did.
• 3:30:47
  I don't know what this thing did and kicked me off but Could it
• 3:30:54
  be the movement of the plates? Could be a lot of things all I
• 3:31:00
  know it could be the reports were was that they sent down a
• 3:31:03
  bunch of equipment and that's what was recorded just before
• 3:31:07
  the equipment burned up. So whatever they hit was very
• 3:31:10
  hot. You know, that's that's kind of
• 3:31:14
  where I I always go through for us like what what could be maybe
• 3:31:18
  a scientific explanation first and it could have been that they
• 3:31:22
  hit a magnum pocket and he knows yeah and microphone dropped into
• 3:31:27
  a magnum pocket and just went crazy, you know, just before it
• 3:31:31
  burned up and what we're hearing might be the microphone actually
• 3:31:33
  burning up. So this this obviously would
• 3:31:38
  lead to the question that you know for Christians as well as
• 3:31:42
  satanistan how many people believe that hell is actually in
• 3:31:46
  the core of the Earth are do you believe it's centered
• 3:31:49
  dimensional. It's on a different plane of the
• 3:31:52
  universe. I believe that there is a
• 3:31:55
  doorway somewhere on Earth that see I do believe it is
• 3:31:59
  interdimensional, but just like, you know many other things I
• 3:32:02
  believe that they're would be a physical doorway that could
• 3:32:06
  cross that barrier where that is.
• 3:32:09
  Who knows. I mean when we actually look
• 3:32:11
  into biblical War a lot of this stuff seems to go back around to
• 3:32:17
  the Greek Islands and into Greece and whatnot.
• 3:32:21
  And even when we look into our own or we see references to
• 3:32:25
  Mount Olympus will where was Mount Olympus and what was that
• 3:32:28
  the foot of Mount Olympus if the heights of Mount Olympus was
• 3:32:32
  where the god the on-pain gods live.
• 3:32:34
  Where was the door to the underworld?
• 3:32:38
  You know. So there's a lot of different
• 3:32:41
  things there. Could it could there be a
• 3:32:44
  physical door? I wouldn't rule it out.
• 3:32:46
  I mean we've seen so much in our world that's unexplainable even
• 3:32:51
  by science. Who in their logical mind would
• 3:32:55
  rule out the possibility that such doorways to exist.
• 3:32:58
  We see references to interdimensional doorways in
• 3:33:02
  mesoamerica in almost every single culture.
• 3:33:06
  They say oh this door will lead you to another dimension under
• 3:33:09
  the circumstances. So could it be possible?
• 3:33:13
  Yes. I mean we see this in so many
• 3:33:15
  cultures I see but it's stupid of us to ignore that.
• 3:33:20
  Yeah, I would take it from Gypsy from what you were saying
• 3:33:23
  earlier. You most likely don't believe in
• 3:33:26
  like a soul sleep because you say that you've seen spirits and
• 3:33:30
  hauntings and all this so you don't have some of the beliefs
• 3:33:34
  that a spirit whenever it dies or a person dies or Spirit
• 3:33:37
  remains asleep until some higher power reassembles it what's your
• 3:33:42
  view on that? Hopefully I've seen too much
• 3:33:46
  shit. I mean, is it possible that a
• 3:33:49
  spirit that is so could go dormant and inactive.
• 3:33:53
  Yes, but their energy is still present somewhere that that clue
• 3:33:58
  that that Convalescence of energy is still exists somewhere
• 3:34:03
  and whether it's active or inactive aware or unaware, it's
• 3:34:07
  still there. Who yeah, and that's about the
• 3:34:12
  best that I can describe it as I can't really go into too much
• 3:34:15
  more detail than that. But my my theory is is that when
• 3:34:19
  we pass on we joined this Collective of energy and we stay
• 3:34:26
  conscious and aware of who we were for however much time until
• 3:34:31
  we either manifest into a new body or go somewhere else in the
• 3:34:35
  universe. I don't know.
• 3:34:39
  I don't know how that works. I mean we see diagrams of the
• 3:34:43
  Earth's electromagnetic field looping back in on itself.
• 3:34:47
  Could that be you know, having some sort of effect there
• 3:34:51
  possibly. Could we be trailing off into
• 3:34:55
  the Stardust of the cosmos? But energy can't be destroyed or
• 3:35:00
  created according to science. So it's got to go somewhere.
• 3:35:06
  Yeah, Albert Einstein said that energy doesn't disappear.
• 3:35:10
  It just merely changes form. And that's what I believe, you
• 3:35:14
  know, and I think that people have a wrong thought processes
• 3:35:19
  when it comes to the soul. They they want to like look at
• 3:35:23
  time. Linearly.
• 3:35:24
  They want to look at the soul as a singular thing.
• 3:35:28
  But I'm more. of a theosophistic point of view on the soul
• 3:35:34
  because theosophists believe that the soul can split and that
• 3:35:42
  you reincarnate but you can also be born with The Shard of
• 3:35:46
  another Soul, you know, and that like the soul splits off into
• 3:35:53
  hundreds of millions of pieces and can be reborn within its own
• 3:35:58
  generation over and over and over again, and I really like
• 3:36:02
  that and I've seen things that would in my perception validate
• 3:36:12
  that you know and Like when I was talking about earlier having
• 3:36:17
  near death experiences. I know that when I died.
• 3:36:23
  That something strange did happen to me.
• 3:36:27
  But I also know that my belief system was different.
• 3:36:32
  And so to me. I think that whatever your
• 3:36:37
  belief system is. Will most likely be applied when
• 3:36:43
  you die. Just from what I've seen in my
• 3:36:46
  experience, you know, that's just my humble opinion on that.
• 3:36:50
  and I've seen Christian ghosts get stuck here yet.
• 3:36:56
  They still think they're going to heaven and they still pray
• 3:36:59
  every day and they have no idea they're dead and they have no
• 3:37:04
  clue what's going on and you know, like maybe somebody will
• 3:37:09
  move into where they're at. And they might have different
• 3:37:13
  views or ideals. Then that ghost that goes feels
• 3:37:16
  that person's evil or not Christian.
• 3:37:19
  You know and it causes a lot of chaos and problems, you know,
• 3:37:23
  and so it's like you can't tell anyone what to believe.
• 3:37:27
  Just what I was saying earlier like cognitive dissonance is
• 3:37:31
  going to come into play and they're motivated reasoning is
• 3:37:35
  gonna lock you out of their brain because they need to
• 3:37:40
  believe and perceive things that's best for them that works
• 3:37:45
  for them the best. And to me I'm like, who am I to
• 3:37:48
  question that who am I to tell someone else?
• 3:37:50
  They can't think of something a certain way because I think of
• 3:37:55
  things differently and I'm gonna apply it to my life the the best
• 3:37:59
  it serves me. You know what I'm saying?
• 3:38:02
  Yeah. Okay, fine directive.
• 3:38:07
  Yeah, so I guess for me. I don't know I guess.
• 3:38:15
  This is where I bring up the the cthulism and I I see everything
• 3:38:21
  as a illusion. and that includes your perception or perceptions,
• 3:38:29
  so if our perceptions and themselves are Illusions Falls
• 3:38:35
  Concepts um without getting to creation and destruction too
• 3:38:41
  much, but if they're all illusions Then why am I giving
• 3:38:47
  it important? Why is somebody else's
• 3:38:50
  perception equally as important as my perception that
• 3:38:54
  everything's an illusion. So if I go even further and
• 3:39:01
  think of Free Will as an illusion itself to get myself to
• 3:39:05
  make me believe that I have some sort of control over my life.
• 3:39:09
  then why do I think that other people's sense of Free Will is
• 3:39:15
  truly their Center. There's sorts of power.
• 3:39:19
  And choices are irrelevant because we're going to make
• 3:39:23
  choices pretty determined. Not just by some entity Beyond
• 3:39:28
  ourselves, but because of Our social structures and our genes
• 3:39:34
  and the concepts that we share from one lineage to another.
• 3:39:40
  I mean think about just something as simple as
• 3:39:44
  Christianity has been perpetuated for 2000 years or
• 3:39:47
  so. But there's been existence prior
• 3:39:51
  to it. So it's just something that we
• 3:39:54
  it's been perpetuated. So if I see that everything's an
• 3:39:58
  illusion. then I don't give too much of a too much weight to
• 3:40:04
  stressors and I don't give too much weight to what other people
• 3:40:09
  really feel or think because in my mind, they're living off a
• 3:40:14
  illusion to an illusion. I like that.
• 3:40:19
  That's really interesting. I'm gonna think about that more
• 3:40:22
  too. Yeah, that's definitely an
• 3:40:25
  interesting way of. Looking at it.
• 3:40:29
  Definitely plenty of food for thought there.
• 3:40:33
  Yeah, how do you not get yourself into a paradigm though?
• 3:40:37
  It seems like you you go down that rabbit hole and and they
• 3:40:41
  see what other people view is illusion.
• 3:40:43
  Do you ever get to a point where you ask yourself?
• 3:40:46
  And I'm sure you've heard people say this.
• 3:40:48
  Maybe I'm already in hell. Maybe I'm the one seeing the
• 3:40:52
  illusion maybe everything around me just a figment of my
• 3:40:56
  imagination fears to have you went down that rabbit hole.
• 3:40:59
  Oh, yeah. I mean, I love going down that
• 3:41:02
  rabbit hole. I think I live I think all of us
• 3:41:06
  satanists do that. We have we have something called
• 3:41:10
  a subjective reality or subjective Universe to objective
• 3:41:15
  universe and the difference being is a subjective reality or
• 3:41:21
  subjective universe is just how we perceive the world around us
• 3:41:25
  our own little bubble that we live in and how we interact with
• 3:41:28
  it. Um, you know is the soda bottle
• 3:41:32
  got a red. Or a blue label or a green
• 3:41:35
  label. How are we seeing this you know
• 3:41:38
  does the bats behind Gypsy looks scary or it is her little, you
• 3:41:47
  know, living room there area inviting.
• 3:41:49
  Yeah, that's all subjective same with how black metal orders.
• 3:41:54
  You know, he's got the Trap Back his ritual area looks like a
• 3:41:58
  nice virtual area. And to be honest.
• 3:42:00
  Is that inviting or is it off putting you know, it's how we
• 3:42:05
  perceive but then we have the objective Universe which is the
• 3:42:09
  universe as it is in reality. Um, it doesn't give a shit on
• 3:42:14
  how we perceive it. Um, it's just that's how it is.
• 3:42:19
  You know, this is a solid table you can't argue about that
• 3:42:22
  doesn't matter if it's wood metal or you know, the butt
• 3:42:27
  plate of a Quantum War Beast, you know, it's a table.
• 3:42:33
  That's what it is. You know, you can't say anything
• 3:42:38
  else. The dirt outside is dirt.
• 3:42:39
  The world is what it is people are assholes and that's just how
• 3:42:43
  it's you know, it's the universe as actually is with no illusion.
• 3:42:54
  and that's the that's the truth that most satanists come to
• 3:43:00
  understand the one to that how they see the universe how they
• 3:43:05
  see the entire reality is just subjective to themselves.
• 3:43:09
  And that forever you buddy around them.
• 3:43:12
  It's going to be different. They're gonna see things that
• 3:43:15
  they like they're gonna see if they don't like and then there's
• 3:43:18
  How the Universe really is. You mentioned a couple shows
• 3:43:23
  back about I guess it was that entity or some kind of higher
• 3:43:27
  power that's having a dream and we are a part of its thoughts
• 3:43:31
  and ideas asleep while these fucking creatures are doing like
• 3:43:35
  lullabies and stuff like that. That's all do you do you do you
• 3:43:40
  feel like there's any creatives so that that we might actually
• 3:43:43
  just be the the thoughts of some kind of ever sleeping empathy.
• 3:43:47
  Well, we could all just become dribble of such an entity too
• 3:43:51
  think I mean think about the Earth, you know to us seems like
• 3:43:57
  this giant Globe clothing in the middle of space when you know
• 3:44:02
  for all we know it could be just the very tip of a pinhead.
• 3:44:06
  Oh, you know Science Matters not reality is just how we perceive
• 3:44:12
  it. Um, yeah, I mean just be Segment
• 3:44:18
  of some Cosmic entities dream or maybe that Cosmic entity is just
• 3:44:23
  a figment of our journey. Has anyone of us thought that
• 3:44:28
  maybe we are asses off. Yeah, well, I mean that we're in
• 3:44:33
  a dream state ourselves and that we wake up all this good,
• 3:44:38
  bye-bye. Yeah, if you you know, first of
• 3:44:43
  like I didn't when you said Thunder well, I didn't I take
• 3:44:46
  that as you being crashed trying to be funny like legitimately we
• 3:44:50
  could be I think we're even more more less significant than that.
• 3:44:57
  And in reality it comes to a point of like we are all living
• 3:45:02
  in these dreams these Concepts, you know, like, you know, I got
• 3:45:08
  to grow up and gotta have a career and I gotta have a family
• 3:45:11
  with two I have kids and the white picket fence and I got to
• 3:45:15
  have the dog and the cat and all this shit and I got a have a
• 3:45:20
  good job a good pension a good four one K and I got a go to pay
• 3:45:25
  my taxes and I gotta get a car loan and I got a, you know get a
• 3:45:30
  house alone a mortgage and all this shit and it's like we we
• 3:45:33
  spent our lives and then before we know we're like oh damn it's
• 3:45:37
  over. Or it's almost over and what I
• 3:45:40
  do just working my ass off for what?
• 3:45:43
  And for things for moment those few moments where I kind of feel
• 3:45:48
  okay, or somewhat happy it's like that that seems like an
• 3:45:53
  awful dream like that. Sounds like slavery. you know
• 3:45:57
  sounds like yeah, and it's societal conditioning, you know,
• 3:46:02
  but that whole yummy in aspect to Satanism that really appeals
• 3:46:10
  to me, you know, you were talking about it brother Lucifer
• 3:46:14
  how you were saying that we have these perceptions that are
• 3:46:18
  indisputable truths, you know facts, you know reality to
• 3:46:23
  versus our own individual perceptions.
• 3:46:27
  And how we mold that together, you know to create our own.
• 3:46:34
  reality and then the masks that we basically wear in society
• 3:46:40
  versus who we really are when the doors are closed.
• 3:46:43
  It was around right? You know what I mean?
• 3:46:46
  I really like that. Part of Satanism that is like
• 3:46:51
  you don't need to hide part of who you are embrace all of
• 3:46:57
  yourself. Love yourself unconditionally
• 3:47:00
  with all of your flaws and I see any like Christian type of
• 3:47:07
  thought processes lacking in that because you're supposed to
• 3:47:11
  be perfect. Like you're supposed to want to
• 3:47:14
  perfect the post don't want to be Christ like, you know, and
• 3:47:18
  that whole concept of becoming your own God right that used to
• 3:47:25
  really scare the shit out of me. I don't know why I can't even
• 3:47:29
  really put it. Into words or articulate it
• 3:47:33
  right, but it scared me. To view myself as my own God.
• 3:47:40
  I thought what? Oh my God, who the fuck am I to
• 3:47:43
  do that and then as my mind started to change. and Carl
• 3:47:50
  Young was very big on Kundalini. Awakening, you know, and that
• 3:47:56
  knows this being like an essential part.
• 3:47:59
  Of a reality shift and I believe that if you don't have that.
• 3:48:06
  Like I think that everyone here. May have experienced that or
• 3:48:12
  have had some sort of, you know, equal situation or whatever.
• 3:48:18
  That makes them feel like they're awake and that they have
• 3:48:22
  knowledge or wisdom that not everyone speaks or is even
• 3:48:28
  interested in. You know what?
• 3:48:31
  I mean? And I think that that's an
• 3:48:33
  essential part of it if you don't seek that out and if you
• 3:48:36
  don't have it, then you kind of stay in that.
• 3:48:40
  That place of not really needing a meaning or not really needing
• 3:48:45
  a purpose not really caring what happens?
• 3:48:49
  Or believing in anything. Yeah, exactly and that that's
• 3:48:54
  the whole thing now. I figure we got about 10 minutes
• 3:48:59
  and then I figured Brett and I will wrap up this show if that's
• 3:49:03
  all right with you Brad. Yeah, good to me man.
• 3:49:06
  A really enjoyed listening to Rex and Gypsy.
• 3:49:08
  I hope I know I know I hope they come back but just like I asked
• 3:49:12
  in the last show. I asked a question.
• 3:49:16
  I'm going to ask it to you guys because you guys weren't there.
• 3:49:20
  If you as Satanist, we're supposed to live within our own
• 3:49:23
  subjective realities. imagine a fantasy world that you could
• 3:49:28
  live in if you have the opportunity to live in whatever
• 3:49:31
  fictional fantasy world and it would be your reality.
• 3:49:36
  It could be one of your creation.
• 3:49:38
  It could be from your favorite set of novels.
• 3:49:42
  We could be anything. What would that be?
• 3:49:48
  My answer my answer would be this one.
• 3:49:53
  It wouldn't be a fantasy because in a sense of like lit from
• 3:49:57
  literature or from media, it would be this one and that is
• 3:50:01
  because I enjoy that dance and interplay of the human mind and
• 3:50:07
  if I see it in like in fantasy it just gonna it's gonna boil
• 3:50:13
  down as thing human nature and human nature and itself to me is
• 3:50:19
  a great Cosmic That's gonna be pretty controversial.
• 3:50:24
  I say this probably but I think that the mine is a big Cosmic
• 3:50:29
  joke and I think human beings and and themselves are
• 3:50:34
  delusional and they think whatever they think is
• 3:50:38
  Meaningful and impactful and I don't think that's the truth at
• 3:50:43
  all. So if my ideal World it'll be
• 3:50:46
  the apocalypse and all this meaningless dribble that people
• 3:50:52
  live with every day trying to figure out it will be realized
• 3:50:57
  to everybody that it's meaningless as pointless, you
• 3:51:00
  know, everything that everybody stress us out about on a daily
• 3:51:03
  basis about their lives about meetings about what comes after
• 3:51:06
  what came before at the end of the day becomes meaningless and
• 3:51:11
  that release that freedom from all that.
• 3:51:14
  It's true ecstasy. That is freedom to me when all
• 3:51:18
  of this is over what all is waking up these alarms.
• 3:51:22
  Time Tom itself like these deities that these religions
• 3:51:27
  it's like all of it would just some ice to the reality of like
• 3:51:31
  we are truly free and in this moment we can choose to be that
• 3:51:36
  we can choose the letter all go and realize that it's all
• 3:51:39
  bullshit and be free and so for me, the ideal world is this one
• 3:51:43
  and it's gonna be when it also ends.
• 3:51:46
  So I would like to think that right now we're in the end
• 3:51:49
  times, but that's just me. a gypsy wanna go next I think that
• 3:51:59
  So you're saying that we could pick any reality?
• 3:52:03
  As in our own only fantasy novel any fantasy movie any story that
• 3:52:08
  you've created in your own mind. Oh if you could choose what
• 3:52:13
  reality you wanted to live in? Um, what would that be?
• 3:52:19
  I think it would be one that I created in my own mind.
• 3:52:23
  I often times have this constant thought throughout my life.
• 3:52:30
  Seems to be some sort of theme where if only I had this
• 3:52:35
  knowledge before and I could apply it to this or this or that
• 3:52:40
  situation. I always like wish I had a time
• 3:52:45
  machine to go back and change, you know certain things, but
• 3:52:49
  it's not for me. It's for my children.
• 3:52:52
  Because I think that I could give them a better reality or
• 3:52:56
  them a better life. And so I constantly am thinking.
• 3:53:02
  about how if I could have changed this this would be
• 3:53:05
  better, you know for them or This would turn out better in
• 3:53:10
  their life. And I think that I get stuck on
• 3:53:14
  that. You know.
• 3:53:17
  The the times of regret in life, so I would probably want a
• 3:53:22
  reality where regret isn't possible.
• 3:53:26
  Interesting interesting. I got one more question because
• 3:53:30
  we still have a few minutes. Well my answer.
• 3:53:33
  Oh, okay. Go ahead Brett.
• 3:53:35
  Oh, I'll make it quick. To be honest with you.
• 3:53:39
  There's there's no kind of reality or fantasy world or or
• 3:53:43
  fucking Mormon Planet. I'd want to have myself unless
• 3:53:46
  my children and wife were there and they have to be real they
• 3:53:50
  can't be an illusion. I have to have the real of love
• 3:53:54
  and and that companionship and family and my friends and all
• 3:53:58
  that if I don't have that and you could put me in a fucking
• 3:54:02
  Warehouse filled with money and candy and Willy Wonka Chocolate
• 3:54:06
  Factory. I won't give a fuck.
• 3:54:07
  I need the love. That was a beautiful answer.
• 3:54:11
  That was a good one. Go minus more simple minus be
• 3:54:16
  more like a fantasy RPG style kind of like facing like a
• 3:54:21
  revolution. Against the corruption and the
• 3:54:24
  tyranny of our corrupted government.
• 3:54:27
  Interesting interesting last time I I flat out said that I
• 3:54:31
  would rather live in John orman's Books of Gore or in my
• 3:54:35
  own books of gothos saga and which leads me into the next
• 3:54:41
  question as satanists. We generally commune with
• 3:54:46
  ourselves. We Face the hardest points in
• 3:54:49
  our mind. This is how we become our own
• 3:54:51
  living deities our own Gods of our own universes.
• 3:54:54
  We come to our own truths the truth about ourselves that we
• 3:54:59
  may not want to share with other people.
• 3:55:02
  I'm not going to ask anybody to share those deepest parts of
• 3:55:07
  themselves. but if you want to now's your time, I would ask,
• 3:55:13
  you know. When you've had that
• 3:55:15
  conversation with yourself in a mirror.
• 3:55:19
  What is the most disturbing truth about yourself?
• 3:55:23
  That you ever uncovered and had to come to terms with.
• 3:55:29
  I'll start. I'll start because this is
• 3:55:32
  something that has to be you know, if I'm asking other people
• 3:55:36
  to share this with the world. I should be also willing to
• 3:55:41
  share and it's a very hard truth that I had to come about myself
• 3:55:44
  that I could even go there to even think about when I was
• 3:55:49
  writing gothos Saga believes Akins read some of it and can
• 3:55:55
  voucher it's pretty it's got some pretty sick shit in it.
• 3:56:00
  It's got some Concepts and Notions that by our modern
• 3:56:05
  society people would just be like your monster.
• 3:56:08
  You're absolute monster, and I had to come to grips with myself
• 3:56:12
  with Notions of If I was living in that Society, what would I be
• 3:56:18
  willing to do? What would I be willing to
• 3:56:20
  accept and not accept and in gothos, you know, there's you
• 3:56:26
  know, the society is centered around.
• 3:56:29
  You know a very sexual society and age limits is not looked at
• 3:56:34
  the same way slavery is not looked at the same way.
• 3:56:38
  It's accepted. And the brutality of humanity is
• 3:56:43
  viewed very differently humans are food.
• 3:56:48
  Humans, don't you know seem to mind being food because for
• 3:56:53
  these monsters a monster can rape a person and then eat them
• 3:56:57
  in the street and everybody thinks it's perfectly fine.
• 3:57:00
  And it's a very brutal world. So I have to come to very dark
• 3:57:05
  grips with myself before I could write that book.
• 3:57:09
  And be like is this really my mindset and it is this actually
• 3:57:14
  copesthetic in our modern side. And I think I've I'm glad I came
• 3:57:18
  to those grips on a personal level because once I understood
• 3:57:23
  my own mind, I could into place my own limits like this is not
• 3:57:28
  something I'm ever gonna cross line and so when I say this, my
• 3:57:35
  limits is actually already out there and book format.
• 3:57:39
  And how dark I'm willing to go? So people can actually see the
• 3:57:44
  true depths of Darkness of my mind because it's in my books my
• 3:57:48
  fictional books. so my question to you guys is what is the
• 3:57:54
  darkness darkest thing that you've ever encountered about
• 3:57:59
  yourself? I had to say this.
• 3:58:02
  It's the reality is. I'm never gonna be looked the
• 3:58:05
  same like I was before I was a kid.
• 3:58:07
  I know how much I'm gonna be hated because how how I think it
• 3:58:12
  how I see and the deepest part of is sometimes have a bit of a
• 3:58:16
  misanthropy tendency sometimes towards you know, the humanity
• 3:58:20
  is society as whole, but I just learned to accept what I really
• 3:58:24
  am and learn to accept the path. I have to follow and learning to
• 3:58:29
  be what I am deep on the inside instead of just denying and
• 3:58:33
  trying to run away from it. Go ahead gypsy.
• 3:58:42
  Um, I think the darkest thing that I've had to come to terms
• 3:58:50
  with her. Yes something that you know, you
• 3:58:53
  would consider true evil about yourself.
• 3:58:57
  It's like so case Point example in my books and zagan can vouch
• 3:59:02
  for this. My books sexual slavery is a
• 3:59:05
  major thing slavery in general is is a major thing and people's
• 3:59:11
  age of adulthood is not viewed in the same way.
• 3:59:15
  I definitely don't cross the line with actual kid kids, but
• 3:59:22
  that theme is where the packages is the age as much lower to
• 3:59:27
  physical maturity and it's in a world where in it's horribly
• 3:59:33
  brutal. I come from a family where
• 3:59:39
  there's more than one child monster that is blood related to
• 3:59:43
  me. convicted child molesters You know.
• 3:59:50
  They've done it to many people including my mother my mother's
• 3:59:55
  sister. and horrible horrible things were done. and As I was
• 4:00:04
  growing up. I hated my grandfather and my
• 4:00:09
  uncle and another person in my family because I knew what they
• 4:00:13
  were. Um, but I could never admit to
• 4:00:18
  myself. Until my grandfather's now
• 4:00:23
  dying. and I love them and I think that Is the hardest thing
• 4:00:31
  that I've ever had to deal with or admit to myself?
• 4:00:36
  I'm like, how could I love something like that?
• 4:00:38
  How could I love? Someone that is capable. of
• 4:00:44
  something that I think is the most disgusting worst thing that
• 4:00:49
  you could ever do. you know and something that I was a victim of
• 4:00:53
  and something my fiance was a victim of and You know many
• 4:00:58
  people I love. and People were saying are you shouldn't even go
• 4:01:06
  visit him. You shouldn't even go look upon
• 4:01:08
  him. On his deathbed because he
• 4:01:11
  doesn't deserve it. and my his wife is also dying and is in the
• 4:01:19
  same room and I said, you know what?
• 4:01:20
  I'm not going. For him I'm not going for that
• 4:01:25
  purpose. I'm not gonna let what he did
• 4:01:28
  change who I am as a person. I want to say goodbye to my
• 4:01:32
  grandmother whether he's there or not.
• 4:01:36
  I don't really care. You know.
• 4:01:40
  But that's probably the most disturbing like fucked up thing
• 4:01:44
  and I feel it's evil. That I love my grandfather and I
• 4:01:50
  love my uncle. I think I shouldn't love them.
• 4:01:53
  I get mad at myself for it. So you're saying you feel like
• 4:01:58
  you're accepting the the things that they did and some more
• 4:02:04
  detail inside you because you don't accept anything they did
• 4:02:10
  but I feel like I should not even have any love or compassion
• 4:02:15
  for them at all. And I you know what?
• 4:02:19
  I mean. I hate myself any love for them.
• 4:02:23
  Yeah. Zagan, do you wanna say
• 4:02:26
  anything? You don't have to you know, no,
• 4:02:29
  right so I think and this like, you know, since we live close
• 4:02:35
  each other we have more this conversations, but you know,
• 4:02:38
  I've grown to identify. or connect or give a word to who I
• 4:02:44
  felt like all my life and I would say occultist, you know a
• 4:02:49
  cultist means to me a agent of the end and when I mean the end
• 4:02:57
  I mean both the more on the metaphorical sense of like
• 4:03:05
  Ending everything in this world as far as like I see a lot of
• 4:03:09
  attachments to things that are painful and bring suffering.
• 4:03:15
  And releasing ourselves from that.
• 4:03:19
  I admit to myself that I am an agent of change and that change
• 4:03:26
  is not good or bad. It's just change and at times in
• 4:03:32
  my field like it's painful at times in my feel like it is then
• 4:03:36
  of things. but coming to those terms of like living outside of
• 4:03:42
  these, you know dualities like good bad, you know evil.
• 4:03:49
  You know benevolent villain and all these terms and I feel like
• 4:03:55
  at times I've had to adopt those terms or those terms are more
• 4:03:59
  adapted to me. So there's been times where I've
• 4:04:02
  been a manipulator. There's been times where I've
• 4:04:05
  been very human and been selfish and there's been times where
• 4:04:08
  I've been selfless not because I was trying to get into heaven or
• 4:04:13
  anything but just because of human nature.
• 4:04:15
  So in that sense, I see myself the darkest parts of me and it's
• 4:04:23
  accepting that I am an agent of change and that changes and
• 4:04:28
  pretty It's not fun. It's not supposed to it's
• 4:04:32
  supposed to be challenging. It's supposed to rock
• 4:04:34
  everything. So in that sense, that is my
• 4:04:37
  darkness not going with the status quo.
• 4:04:41
  Um, you might be called an agent of evil.
• 4:04:44
  Right, right, right. Adrian of evil agent of then
• 4:04:49
  times all this stuff like for sure.
• 4:04:51
  Yeah, but at many times people once they get past that part
• 4:04:57
  with me, they see me like why you help me you did this and I
• 4:05:03
  go back and I remind them I didn't do it.
• 4:05:06
  You did and in that interplay of light I can try to say good
• 4:05:11
  words and influence other people, but if I can get
• 4:05:13
  somebody to believe. Then in that sense, I am an
• 4:05:18
  agent of change because I didn't make the change day.
• 4:05:22
  I initiated the change for them and for them to grow through
• 4:05:26
  these, you know wrestlings with these Concepts and Illusions and
• 4:05:30
  delusions and things that bring those pain and suffering to just
• 4:05:34
  let go of it and focus on this Awakening.
• 4:05:38
  And in that sense, I take that to heart and that's how I live
• 4:05:42
  my day-to-day life and everything's an interplay and
• 4:05:46
  for change for myself and for the whole world.
• 4:05:50
  I've always known you to be one of the most purest satanists
• 4:05:54
  I've ever met because that's exactly what Satanism is about.
• 4:05:56
  It's changing growing evolving zippering reaching your ultimate
• 4:06:02
  tool. Yeah, and that's what I've
• 4:06:04
  always known about you Brett. Would you like to add in?
• 4:06:09
  What is your darkest personal self?
• 4:06:14
  Oh, hey. Well, come on.
• 4:06:17
  I mean I put out there that I'm At heart I'm a monster flat out.
• 4:06:24
  I'm a horrible monster that I'm perfectly content with, you know
• 4:06:29
  vampires doing some of the most horrible things and Society
• 4:06:33
  doing most horrible things. And as you know, I I grew up in
• 4:06:39
  a pretty abusive family and I ended up in a lot of foster care
• 4:06:43
  and all that and I I told myself because of what my family would
• 4:06:48
  do to me that I would not allow myself to Get to be anything
• 4:06:54
  like them. They seem to enjoy being abusive
• 4:06:57
  and doing some of the terrible things he did and I told myself
• 4:07:01
  I'm never gonna be that way. I'm always going to try to do
• 4:07:04
  good. Unfortunately.
• 4:07:05
  I found myself in a position where I was went over the line.
• 4:07:10
  I had a friend that was living with me.
• 4:07:12
  And I also had the woman that would be my wife we were
• 4:07:16
  together for six months at this point.
• 4:07:18
  My friend was getting home from work.
• 4:07:22
  There was a guy in the neighborhood who liked to hurt
• 4:07:25
  people and do horrible shit and he seen my friend get out of the
• 4:07:29
  vehicle. And when the vehicle drove away,
• 4:07:31
  this guy came up out of the darkness and basically jumped my
• 4:07:34
  friend and was beating him into the ground.
• 4:07:36
  Got a lot of blood all over the place.
• 4:07:39
  Well, I heard all the Ruckus I went down and I confronted this
• 4:07:44
  person and I began pounding their ass into the ground and I
• 4:07:48
  remember feeling for a moment there great deal of power and
• 4:07:52
  this desire to kill this person. Then it would have actually
• 4:07:55
  pleased me to do it. But right as I was about to take
• 4:07:59
  that final hit to just fucking absolutely crippler kill them
• 4:08:02
  something took over and said no don't do this don't do this and
• 4:08:08
  I stood up I walked away in the person just kind of stuttered
• 4:08:12
  off and shut down the road, but I just remember that moment to
• 4:08:16
  feel and it could have been really easy for me to just go
• 4:08:19
  that extra mile and there was a part Me that wanted to do it and
• 4:08:24
  would have liked to do it but something else stopped me.
• 4:08:27
  I don't know how to explain it, but I confront the darkness that
• 4:08:31
  day. You would have taken joy in
• 4:08:34
  another person's suffering. Yeah, he I felt like he was
• 4:08:39
  going to kill my friend and there was a obviously the
• 4:08:44
  initiation of it was to defend my friend and the stop what was
• 4:08:48
  happening, but it got to a point where I'd hit the guy enough to
• 4:08:52
  where didn't need to continue to go on, you know, he was done but
• 4:08:57
  I realize then oh fuck I do not want to be like my family.
• 4:09:01
  I do not like want to be like the pieces of shit on my past.
• 4:09:06
  now there you are coming from I mean I've been in I don't have
• 4:09:10
  the scars on my body and twist it up nose for no reason.
• 4:09:14
  I've been in plenty of street fights and I've done some
• 4:09:17
  playing horrible shit and have to admit to myself.
• 4:09:21
  There's been times when I'm taking great pleasure and some
• 4:09:26
  of the damage that I've done to another human being broken
• 4:09:30
  bones. I torn off you know years of put
• 4:09:35
  my thumb through people's eyes and for single moment there, you
• 4:09:39
  know, I've got to remember you know that I've got to pull back
• 4:09:41
  but There's been plenty of times when I know that I've looked up
• 4:09:47
  at surrounding people and terrified them with what they
• 4:09:51
  probably saw as a look of other ecstasy. and yeah, it's
• 4:09:58
  something that we all need to identify about ourselves that
• 4:10:02
  thing that scares us the most about ourselves so we can learn
• 4:10:06
  to keep it in line. And we can learn not to cross
• 4:10:10
  that line. And that's the whole point of an
• 4:10:13
  exercise. Like this is where we can talk
• 4:10:15
  about something that is truly Darkness about ourselves and I
• 4:10:19
  think everybody Out there in the world should be able to do this
• 4:10:23
  with themselves even in private. First it should always be done
• 4:10:26
  in private before you can speak to anybody else about it.
• 4:10:30
  So I want to say thank you guys for sharing that with me and
• 4:10:33
  indulging me with that. You're welcome.
• 4:10:36
  Thank you. It's always a fun experience
• 4:10:38
  going to the darkness. Yeah, he's a good talk about my
• 4:10:43
  mrsanthropic missanthropy side because sometimes I feel like
• 4:10:47
  I'm like the character not important from the game hatred.
• 4:10:51
  Interesting. That's a rough game right there,
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  my friend. I just saw clips of that game
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  the other day just walk around just shooting people doing some
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  horrible stuff. I mean it gets repetitive, but I
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  might try it out. But anyways, so it's now Tina
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  we've been going for over four hours now, I would say I think
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  that's pretty good show we should wrap it up, right?
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  Yeah. Thanks sounded wrap it up.
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  I'm getting a little tired Friday every Monday every Friday
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  7:00 PM Central. We we do this kind of stuff if
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  you guys want to be a part of it.
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  Love to have you enjoyed all of you.
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  Thank you for having me too Brett.
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  Yeah, thank you for having me in the show.
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  It's fun. It's always great having you
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  guys zagan. You know, it's always great
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  having you and your always welcome at my house. black metal
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  or Yeah a great having you tonight.
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  And of course you see Tiff. It was great to have you tonight
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  and meet finally get to talk to you.
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  I know we've talked several times on.
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  Facebook yes, and I like your writing brother.
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  I think your books are really awesome.
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  I didn't oh you read my books. You sent me some writings.
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  Oh, okay. Yeah.
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  Yeah. I have to your friends with me
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  on both my profiles you probably don't know.
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  I'm the same person. Okay.
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  So, yep, thank you all um if you guys want to support Brett Keane
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  show, you know, he's got a whole bunch of stuff that you can buy
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  Down Below in the links and if you want to support us, yes go
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  to our website. I know I don't have any thing
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  going right now where people can go to the links.
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  You can buy my book find it on Amazon.
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  And and I'm dropping shit all over the place.
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  You can buy the satanic Testament.
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  You can find this on Amazon or you can buy any of my other
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  books including golf house where I talk about vampires wearables,
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  and I get to see my sick dark side.
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  And you know, if you want to donate to the STS that always
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  helps keep slides on as well as I would recommend donating and
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  supporting Brett. We ready for the smexy outro.
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  Hell. Yeah the outro.
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  it it