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Countdown to the NFL Draft (w/Mel Kiper) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: The great Mel Kuiper is with us. We are getting
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  Speaker 1: close to the draft. Mel is laughing already. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: even said anything. I'm right by his house. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know that, but I'm coming to visit today.
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  Speaker 2: Mel.
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  Speaker 3: I am coming for you.
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  Speaker 4: Have no room at the end for you.
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  Speaker 1: At the Kuiper in the Mel's diner is full.
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  Speaker 3: How is Mel Kuiper? You know, like a week and
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  Speaker 3: a half out from the draft? Are you like? Are
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  Speaker 3: you even more racketed up than you normally?
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  Speaker 4: Are? You know what? I'm still talking, which is a
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  Speaker 4: big thing at the stage of the game. The Boys
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  Speaker 4: hasn't gone quite yet. Did the day before the draft
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  Speaker 4: last year and I was able to recover somehow and
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  Speaker 4: got it back in time for draft day. But no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to finalize the mock draft rounds one and two,
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  Speaker 4: which is out Wednesday. Then the ratings, which is the
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  Speaker 4: most important thing. Get my top one fifty in order,
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  Speaker 4: while my positional rankings in order, and then so they
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  Speaker 4: finish up with that next weekend. So I'm a week
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  Speaker 4: away from that. I'm only a few days away from
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  Speaker 4: finalizing mock draft, mock round one and also round two,
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  Speaker 4: which makes it really interesting. We're trying to connect the
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  Speaker 4: dots with the first and second round. But that'll all
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  Speaker 4: be put to bed for me Sunday night. It goes
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  Speaker 4: up Wednesday. Barring any late changes, I'll get to them
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  Speaker 4: Monday and Tuesday, and that's it. I don't do any
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  Speaker 4: morning of the draft. MOX have news and notes that morning,
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  Speaker 4: but not no more mock draft. It ends on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: That's the final draft. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it's final draft. Yes, who's the player? Like, what's
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  Speaker 1: the thing that's changed the most from.
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  Speaker 3: The last mock draft to this mock draft? Now?
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  Speaker 4: I think Caden Proctor is such a wild card. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the offensive tackle from Alabama. Yeah, you put him at
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  Speaker 4: six to Cleveland. Do you drop him down in the twenties?
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  Speaker 4: Nobody really has a handle one a kid who has
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  Speaker 4: he has a talent to be Orlando Pace. But he
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  Speaker 4: didn't play like that, you know he has. That's some inconsistencies.
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  Speaker 4: Go back to the Florida State game that began the
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  Speaker 4: year was tough. He figured he recovered from that and
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  Speaker 4: he looked great at his pro day. So it makes
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  Speaker 4: you think, boy guys are six seven, three fifty two,
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  Speaker 4: they can move like him? When there's light on his feet,
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  Speaker 4: as Caden Proctor is, so he can be as good
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  Speaker 4: as he you know, as good cat. And Proctor wants
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  Speaker 4: to be focus, maximize, don't be an underachiever in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: because that's how it is there for him to be
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  Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl caliber left tackle.
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  Speaker 2: Mel you know, you know the draft starts with my
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  Speaker 2: Jets at two. But Jesus, the Jets have have four
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  Speaker 2: of the top forty four picks, and I'm just not
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  Speaker 2: excited about it this year because I'm looking at this
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this.
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  Speaker 4: Group of players and I'm going, yeah, they're they're good,
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  Speaker 4: but there's there's nobody that's getting me excited. Now, change
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  Speaker 4: my mind, please, you.
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  Speaker 3: Want now to make you feel better? Is that what
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  Speaker 3: you're saying?
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  Speaker 4: He sees a scout, you know, he knows more than
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  Speaker 4: everybody whatever, that right, I don't know everybody. You're out
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  Speaker 4: there right off his draft as a D minus draft,
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  Speaker 4: and there's nobody out there. Sometimes the drafts that sho
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  Speaker 4: you think are really good, sometimes they fizzle once they're
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  Speaker 4: in the league. And we said, why don't you overhype
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  Speaker 4: that guy? You know, he didn't live up to the
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  Speaker 4: to the all the potential he showed. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's this draft. You just got an every draft, Mikey,
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  Speaker 4: and so you got to pick the right players. And
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna go back and say there was a seventh
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  Speaker 4: round or a couple seventh rounders that made in every
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  Speaker 4: draft we cherry picked. We act like would have taken them.
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  Speaker 4: That's a tough part of being a general manager. It's
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  Speaker 4: easy to sit back in the cheap seats and say,
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  Speaker 4: how'd you miss that guy? Why didn't you take him?
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  Speaker 4: You only have one pick in each round. Say if
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  Speaker 4: you just go seventy, then sometimes you have extra picks.
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  Speaker 4: Let's say one pick in each round. You're debating three
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  Speaker 4: or four guys. You pick one. You might have loved you.
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  Speaker 4: He liked the other three just as much, but you
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  Speaker 4: had to make a call. So if you're in the
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  Speaker 4: cheap seats, you pick the one out of the four
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  Speaker 4: and you talk about that guy, say I'm a genius.
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  Speaker 4: But when you're a general manager, you can only pick
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  Speaker 4: one if that guy doesn't pick. Three of those guys
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  Speaker 4: that you didn't take might have been stars, but the
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  Speaker 4: one you did take might have been a bust. And
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  Speaker 4: you're considering an idiot. So that's the difference between being
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  Speaker 4: in that GM chair and being where we are on
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  Speaker 4: the outside looking in thinking we have all the answers
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  Speaker 4: when we don't. And to me, that's that's why. Until
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  Speaker 4: you're in there and know the pressure and know the debates,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and then the one man it has to
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  Speaker 4: make that final call, whether it's the head coach, general manager,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes an owner, whoever it is, that's that's that's got
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  Speaker 4: to be brutal because you're never just one guy. It's
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  Speaker 4: always three or four guys just there right in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: Mel You could tell him it's the greatest draft in
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  Speaker 1: the history of drafts.
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  Speaker 3: He just lacks faith in the Jets. That's all. That's
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 4: Yet understandably, let's face it, there are at two, they're
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  Speaker 4: at sixteen, and they're at thirty three. You know what
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  Speaker 4: this does fast become If that last year was the
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  Speaker 4: Shadora Draft, this is the Tie Simpson Draft, and you
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  Speaker 4: know is Tie Simpson after thirty three picks are made,
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  Speaker 4: going to be a New York Jet. That's what everybody
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  Speaker 4: has wants to know, is somebody going to trade up
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  Speaker 4: ahead of the Jets are just gonna wait what he
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  Speaker 4: falls in their lap? Is he going to be available
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  Speaker 4: for the other second round pick? Who tie Simps? And
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  Speaker 4: right now is the guy when you ask the question
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  Speaker 4: about who's the guy tough to project, I mentioned Kayden Proctor.
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  Speaker 4: It's his teammate ty Simpson, because he's not if he's
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  Speaker 4: not going to the Jets, which everybody seems to think
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  Speaker 4: he's not at sixteen, and he doesn't look like he's
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  Speaker 4: going to Pittsburgh at twenty one. If nobody trades back
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  Speaker 4: into the latter portion of round one to get him,
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  Speaker 4: though you're gonna have to give up picks. Then is
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  Speaker 4: he's there at thirty three and the Jets? And I
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  Speaker 4: asked Rich Semina, who covers the Jets does their phenomenal
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  Speaker 4: job of knowing Rich forever. He said, it would be
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  Speaker 4: interesting at thirty three. Interesting, I mean it's a slam dunk.
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  Speaker 4: It's just interesting. So we'll see where ty Simpson ends up, because,
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  Speaker 4: like I say, other teams like Arizona, everybody talks about
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  Speaker 4: the Rams. Rams if they had the late first round pick,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they would not say. I don't think at thirteen
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  Speaker 4: you're taking ty Simpson When you're built for now, you
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  Speaker 4: want to win. Now, yes, with Matthew Stafford. You don't
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  Speaker 4: want to take Matthew Stafford's air apparent. When you get
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  Speaker 4: a whole filler at pick number thirteen, where I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about wide receiver like Mackay Lemon or Jordan Tyson, somebody
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  Speaker 4: like that, you don't take the quarterback that's maybe gonna
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  Speaker 4: be good and maybe be the air parent of Matthew
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  Speaker 4: Stafford at thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Well, if I put you at the draft right now,
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  Speaker 1: and I wish I could do that, But if I
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  Speaker 1: put you there and the Jets did take Simpson at sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: your reaction would be what.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that could happen a while ago. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's gonna happen. You know, if it did happen
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  Speaker 4: like you just suggested, I wouldn't say it's an awful pick.
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  Speaker 4: I know Mikey would slant it's horrible. I'll take Ty
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  Speaker 4: Simpson at sixteen. I said that, And you know when
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  Speaker 4: you say stuff sometimes you have to kind of rethink.
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  Speaker 4: I say, you really want to love that guy at sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: I think you gotta love Ty Simpson. I really do.
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  Speaker 4: Now you get into it at thirty three if you
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  Speaker 4: like them. But you say there's still something missing. There's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be something missing at sixteen and something missing at
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  Speaker 4: thirty three.
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  Speaker 3: It's to say, what you.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't like at sixteen, you're still not gonna like at
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  Speaker 4: thirty three, Right, I say, at thirty three, I'll take
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  Speaker 4: a shot. I'll take a shot and it doesn't work out,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't see enough this year. I'll go get
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback next year. I get that. But at sixteen,
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  Speaker 4: you gotta love them. It's like the Boomers bring up
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  Speaker 4: with a Boomer probably hates me more than he ever has.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we got a lot great Boomer. I don't
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  Speaker 4: like me anymore because I talk about him every year
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  Speaker 4: about this. He went in the second round after they
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  Speaker 4: took three players in the first round. They love Boomer.
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  Speaker 4: If you love Boomer, these three picks weren't in the
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  Speaker 4: top fifteen guys. They were. One was a top ten pick,
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  Speaker 4: one was around twenty and one was around twenty eight.
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  Speaker 4: And they didn't take Boomer. They took him in the
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  Speaker 4: second round. Helped that turn out. A couple of the
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  Speaker 4: guys went in the first robust, but they took say
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  Speaker 4: they liked them, they didn't love them, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 4: loved Steve Young. They didn't love Boomer.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 4: I had Boomer in front on the front page of
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  Speaker 4: my cover. He was the nineteen eighty four Draft report.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: We talked to Boomer that year. I was telling him
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  Speaker 4: about Johnny and Nightis and Dan Fous. Don't don't worry Boomer,
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  Speaker 4: You'll prove him wrong. Boomer didn't want to hear any
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  Speaker 4: of that nonsense, like, shut the hell up, Typer. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to hear that up. I'm not happy right now.
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  Speaker 4: So he came into a little ship, and look what happened.
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  Speaker 4: So the love and like thing I think matters in
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  Speaker 4: the first round. From that, from the second round one,
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  Speaker 4: it probably doesn't matter. Liking probably is good enough at
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  Speaker 4: that point.
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  Speaker 3: Well, on draft night, what do you think the floor
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  Speaker 3: is for Jeremiah Love.
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  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love is, in my opinion, either one or two.
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  Speaker 4: I put him at two because I really love Mendoza.
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  Speaker 4: But you can put him at one and put Mendoza too.
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  Speaker 4: He's the arguably the best player in the draft. People say, well,
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  Speaker 4: we don't take a running back. I said that thirty
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  Speaker 4: years ago, when people don't me, I was an idiot.
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  Speaker 4: So now I'm saying, Okay, I think you're idiots. You
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  Speaker 4: don't think idiots because running backs are done. The last
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  Speaker 4: bust in the top ten, I think was Trent Richardson
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  Speaker 4: a while ago to Cleveland. It picked number three. All
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  Speaker 4: those other running backs that have gone have been really,
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  Speaker 4: really good, and people say, well, they're second team. Some are.
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  Speaker 4: Some aren't thinking about the Super Bowl last couple of years. Right,
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  Speaker 4: you know who keyed these teams? A running back? Did?
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  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker? Did Saquon So to me and I get it.
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  Speaker 4: Pachecko was a seventh round pick. Jeremiah Love was just
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  Speaker 4: a running back. He would not be viewed that high
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  Speaker 4: and I wouldn't be advocating for him. He's a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 4: he's a slot receiver. He didn't fumble. He's a game breaker,
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  Speaker 4: he's a weapon. I always say weapon equals what, guys,
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  Speaker 4: Weapons equal winning. You got enough weapons, you win, right?
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  Speaker 4: And anything? Weapons equal winning. I want Jeremiah Love on
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  Speaker 4: my team if I'm Tennessee at for, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how you pass them up. If he gets down to
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  Speaker 4: seven to Washington. Now, I didn't want to Tennessee at
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  Speaker 4: for A Adam Schefter who knows that a lot more
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  Speaker 4: about inside the NFL than I do. Sure he said
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  Speaker 4: I was wrong. Tennessee is not taking Jeremiah Love at four.
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  Speaker 4: I got another mock coming at him. I gonna I'll
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  Speaker 4: go back to Adam. Do you still think that Adam?
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  Speaker 4: I'm calling Adham this weekend, Okay, tomorrow or Sunday because
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  Speaker 4: he said no one Tennessee. That means you said, well,
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  Speaker 4: if it's not Jeremia Love, who would it be. Probably
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  Speaker 4: Sonny Styles, linebacker from Ohio State, who Robert Salah will
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  Speaker 4: see Fred Warner. Who's the comp And I hate comps
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  Speaker 4: and I'll like the Fred Warner comp to uh Sunny
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  Speaker 4: Styles if he sees that. He said, I could put
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  Speaker 4: him next to Cedria Gray. By the way, Taylor, you
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  Speaker 4: know Cedria Gray, right linebacker with a North Carolina held
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  Speaker 4: but doing a really good job with Tennessee. Put him
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  Speaker 4: next to Cedria Gray. And all of a sudden, Robert
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  Speaker 4: Sallas says, now I got a defense that can compliment
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  Speaker 4: cam Ward all the things we got going there. So
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  Speaker 4: there's a debate if you're Tennessee. Three years from now,
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  Speaker 4: we're saying, where's Jeremiah Love and where is Sunny Styles?
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  Speaker 4: Because Tennessee a lot's gonna hinge on that pick to
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  Speaker 4: see where Tennessee is a couple of years from now
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  Speaker 4: in terms, so we are able to jump into that
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  Speaker 4: playoff contention.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not certain I've ever seen Taylor so happy.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been this happy since Sally was hosting the
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  Speaker 1: show yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 1: But Mel just having a conversation, although it was a
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  Speaker 1: one way conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I remember he.
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  Speaker 1: Went to Carolina, although there's a Carolina held it behind him.
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  Speaker 4: The braid by me, I might have been wrong, but
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  Speaker 4: I gave him a draftable grade. I said it'd be successful.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know it was going to be as next
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  Speaker 4: to you guys. I thought it might be on football,
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  Speaker 4: So I was successful. Hey, as long as these guys
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  Speaker 4: making it broadcasting and I missed on them, I'm still okay.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a broadcaster. I gave him a high grade. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: they might have been a disappointment in terms of the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: and I had a few like that guys that didn't
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  Speaker 4: develop in the NFL but became great broadcasters. I'm okay.
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  Speaker 4: I said to be successful. I didn't tell you what
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor, send them the highlight reel from your flag football.
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  Speaker 3: I thought, break you down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mikey, Mikey saw it, and Mikey told me
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  Speaker 4: he gave him an undrafted grade. Part of it. Don't
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  Speaker 4: even don't even come to my camp what Mikey said.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Taylor had a.
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  Speaker 3: Shot, right, Yes he did. You believed that, no one
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  Speaker 3: else did. Mel. I believe me and you Mel.
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  Speaker 1: But your original point about the running back is such
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  Speaker 1: a good one, because yes, the Seahawks were led by
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  Speaker 1: a running back. Yes, the running back won Super Bowl MVP.
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  Speaker 1: But Mel, they got rid of him in the off season.
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  Speaker 1: He's with the Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't think highly
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  Speaker 1: enough of Kenneth Walker to pay him the big dollars
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  Speaker 1: they needed to keep Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you're right about the running back.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be a special type of player who
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  Speaker 1: could do multiple things for you.
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  Speaker 4: And Kenneth Walker was the second round pick, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: you think about you think about the year where Kansas
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  Speaker 4: City took Clyde Edwards Hilaire in the first round and
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  Speaker 4: last pick in the first round. This is where you
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  Speaker 4: can attack a different ways. They took him last picking.
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  Speaker 4: You knew they passed up when they took him, and
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  Speaker 4: he always you talk about Super Bowl. He was there,
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  Speaker 4: so he did his good job. But they passed up
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  Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift and Jonathan Taylor and they went in the
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  Speaker 4: second round. So two really good backs went in the
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  Speaker 4: second round. Jonathan Taylor, remember I had the funneling issue
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  Speaker 4: at Wisconsin, dropped to the second round. Then they come back,
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  Speaker 4: they get they get Pachecko from Rutgers. He's a Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl run. So you had a first, a thirty second pick,
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  Speaker 4: seventh round pick. They don't. But you got Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 4: You can win with anybody, right, they running us right
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  Speaker 4: if you got Patrick Mahomes healthy. So Kansas City's kind
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  Speaker 4: of an outlier in that regard, but that was always
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  Speaker 4: my fuck. You know. The running back that got that
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  Speaker 4: whole philosophy going way back in the day was Thurman
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Therma. Thomas was a second round pick out of
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State. Well, talent should have been a first, but
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  Speaker 4: he has some injury issues, right, concerns about durability dropped
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  Speaker 4: it the second round. What are we talking about? Jordan
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  Speaker 4: Tyson at Arizona saying durability I don't care. See, it's football.
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  Speaker 4: You can get hurt, then you can get hurt in
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  Speaker 4: another year. You're gonna get hurt. That's football, right, It's durability.
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  Speaker 4: You think once they're in the NFL they don't have
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  Speaker 4: durab they're gonna hurt. So unfortunately, that's the nature of
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  Speaker 4: the game. So when you look at that, Thurman Thomas,
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  Speaker 4: when I looked at it, I said, Okay, let's see
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  Speaker 4: how many running backs starting in the NFL went from
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  Speaker 4: the second round on at that point, I believe it
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  Speaker 4: was twenty out of thirty two. There were key guys
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  Speaker 4: at running backs, starters that went in the second round on.
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  Speaker 4: If you can find guys like that, I'm thinking that
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  Speaker 4: I read it every year and I did that. Analytics.
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  Speaker 4: I call it analytics because it lies, but it doesn't
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: lie about that, right. It's been a funny story. I'm
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: mentioned on one of these shows analytics and now it's
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  Speaker 4: called analytics. No crap, I know what it's called. I'm
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: trying to say a little play on words, is analytics.
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  Speaker 4: You know. Guy's corrected me like I didn't know how
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  Speaker 4: to pronounce analytics. I mean, now they come on, it's
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  Speaker 4: analytics in some cases. Right, Yeah, running backs, I've written that,
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  Speaker 4: I've been said, the bandwag or whatever you want to
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  Speaker 4: call it is full, and now people are there's no room.
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  Speaker 4: I already jumped off because now I'm kind of back
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: on this running back thing. But they got to be
• 13:58
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• 14:00
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• 14:02
  Speaker 4: I really like, is a running back boy. He had
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: acts that line of scrimmage, he goes, He's got game
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: breaking ability returns kicks, but he had some fumbles, crucial
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: fumbles both years. He also had limited opportunities catching the ball.
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: So he's probably a second round pick or he's great.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: He's great for me as a second for that reason
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: if he was back at Notre Dame catching all those
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: balls and then you got him up there. But for
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: right now, Jadarian Price excellent running back. Canny be more
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: more multi dimensional in the NFL as a receiver and
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: also take care of the ball security issues like Jonathan
• 14:31
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of twenty twenty, where you
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  Speaker 2: had rugs, you had Judy, you had LAMB, and it
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: seemed like everybody had them in different orders and they
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: were all going in different places. And I'm looking at Lemon,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Tyson and Tate, and I've seen them go in in
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: every which way they could go. How do you have
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: them stacking up in this draft?
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I haven't finalized that yet, And I said that a
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, so you can put them on a
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: hat and pick out of that, and any order you
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: come up with, I don't know anybody could argue with,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: you know, one, two, and three of those three guys,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: and I see it all over the why because Lemon
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: is a baller, he's a fierce competitor, but he's not
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: going to test great right Kate, great polish character, blocks catches,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: but is he explosive enough. And then you got Tyson,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: who is explosive, looks the part, but he had the
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: injury concerns. He said we had a few drops. Well,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: receivers will drop a pass every now and then the
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: end of the day. I go back a few years
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: ago when we had Jackson Smith and Jigba, Zay Flowers,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Jordan Addison and Quinton Johnston. We had four they were
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: all a bunched together. There were those that I respect
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: that said none of those four should be first round picks.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: How'd that work out? That? That was a comment that
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: didn't turn out to be correct. Three of those four
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: are big hiss you know, Jackson Smith and Jigba is
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: one of the best in the league one offensive side
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: of the ball day. Flowers doing a great job in Baltimore,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: and you see what Addison peton Minnesota and Johnston is
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: inconsistency with the catching the football, but still a talent.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: So for me, they all went around at Mark. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: if you say the receivers could drop a little bit,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: and I had Lemon going twenty three to Cleveland or
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: twenty four to Cleveland a couple weeks ago, people say,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: are you crazy, some one of these receivers may drop.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Something is gonna be Tyson. I don't Lemon could possibly
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the receiver that you know. I like him, I don't
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: love him. Is Omar Cooper Junior. Some love this kid
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: out of Indiana. Back on the season, I'm thinking, boy,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I like him. He runs hard after the catch, he's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: catching a ball. He had a couple drops in the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Maryland game, I believe it was. And then you saw him,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: you know, run great, but he didn't show super explosiveness.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: But he's a good player. I thought third and I said,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him in a second round. I like Omar.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Now here are these mid first round things, and that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: when you say, WHOA. I had him in a second.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Now I'm seeing sixteen to the Jets, and then Field
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Yeates is telling me, oh, he's gonna go in the
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: first round. Okay for a mock draft, I'm gonna listen
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: to that. I don't have him grated as the first,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: but Omar Cooper Junior has kind of jumped into that mix.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: So to me, to answer your question about the receivers,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: any one of those three that you put number one
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: on your board, I don't know anybody could have an
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: army with it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Well, do you think Casey concepts you and can play
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: his way into the first round.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: He's in that first round mix. He's in that first
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: round mixes a slot receiver return man. Now, he had
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: some drops, but he would always come back from that jobs.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: If a shortstop makes an er in the first inning,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: doesn't haunt him. And he has three errors, you know, No,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: you know, I saw Gunnar Henderson that era O of
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: the Year. It ain't a bought a gunner, right, So
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the great ones shake it off. Casey concept show had
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: some drops, it was seven total this year, but he
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: bounced back and he would not let it hamper him
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: or get into his mind the rest of that game.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: So like the kid he was, I saw him as
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: a truth what I do with my books. I had
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the depth charts on Saturday and I put like all
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: kinds of marks. You see books all marked up with
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I see a guy who is and I circle him,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I exd him, I put a star. And those are
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: the true freshmen that really catch your eye and skin.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Soona was Kevin concept show, and then Casey became he
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: was a guy at NC State really wallaje over as
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a true freshman that ends up at A and M So, yes,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: he's probably. I'd say it's about a seventy five percent chance,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Taylor that he goes in the late first round. And
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: you say, ooh, the forty nine ers. You got Miami there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Now you know you've got teams that could go that route.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: In New England, there's a lot of teams that could
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: look at case conception because he also was a heck
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: of a punt returner. So I'll say late first round
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: for him.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Mikeya, how much would you pay for one of those
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: marked up mel Kiper draft books?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, just.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I got I got. We're good friends with Prosper trading guys,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Kim and I are. They're great, Charlie Moon, Scott Bauer Pine,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and they sent me these big blue Prosper Trading notebooks.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Kim got one. I got one. I took Kim, so
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I said, give me that because during the year, I
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: don't have to bring in here. Now every week I
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: have one Kim. It was the week two, week three,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: and I just finished one book. One. I got through
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: one book through the year. I made sure one book was.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I got my second book, which was Kim sitting there.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: So Charlie and Scott sent me a couple more books.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: The Prosper Trading books are phenomenal. But that's what I have,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: all my notes and from the week. So what do
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I do now, Guys, when we're hearing all this stuff
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: about pro day's and combine, I go back to that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: It is a blue book, actually blue, and my book
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: back in the day was blue. The draft board was.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I go back that. I see, because you forget during
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: the year, the note you had and who you liked,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you get you get gotta get lost in space here
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: with all the stuff going on. You you say, boys,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: too many opinions? How about this guy? Yeah, how about
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: that guy? I remember Max tom Zach. Max tom Zach
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: got a Youngstown saying I kind of liked them. I
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: got to put him in where he has a seventh
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: round pick. When undrafted free agent. I'm gonna put him
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: in a nice range here. I'm not gonna forget about
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Max Tomzak, who I liked as an orange crutcher for
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: me back in October coming out of Youngstown State. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: go back to those notes, and I did it the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: other day, and I'm telling you what, guys, you realize, boy,
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you might have You really lucky you had those notes
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: because you kind of forgot about some guys that you
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: If you trust what you saw when the games were
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: being played, trust what your eyes told you, and what
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: we do. We always do that exercise for a reason.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: If if I'm not going to go back and look
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: at that book, what the hell am I sitting there
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: on watching these games? Write those notes down for right?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: So you gotta go back. You can't forget about what
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: you spent all those hours on Saturday and Sunday doing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: At this time of the.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Year, Mel, I have one more draft question than I
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: want to hear about Grandpa Mel and orange crushes. But
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: nobody watches more film than you mail, So I'm curious,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: as you're watching film for this draft class, who's the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: guy that stole the show? Every time you put on
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: you put on the team. Do you put on the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: tape to watch this quarterback and this guy you can't
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: take your eyes off him. You go to watch this
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: tape and you can't stop watching it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: The other guy, I'll tell you all year. For me,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: it was Sunny Styles, and Sunny Styles jumped out at
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: you because he was so much improved in terms of tackling,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: and that was the question coming into the year. It
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: was a former safety had some issues with mistackles in
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. Then I'm watching them in the Texas game. Remember,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: Arch Manning was supposed to go to Columbus and win
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: that game. And Arch Manning was supposed to be the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: number one pick in this draft. Or Arch was supposed
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: want to high been in leed Texas to a national title. Right,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: he was supposed to hit the trifecta. Who hit the trifecta?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza did, right, But Arch was supposed to be
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: that guy first game at Columbus who got the best
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: of them the Ohio State defense did with Matt Patricia right,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Sonny Styles. Arvo Reeves had a sack in that game too,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: But Sonny Styles throughout the year kept saying, okay, let's
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: see if the mistackles end. He eliminated mistackles guys, then
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: he tests I'd say, off the charge, freakish, rare to
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: do what he did in a workout. So for me,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: when you watched him, it was a guy that they
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: had him playing all over and he was so he
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: closed so quickly like a cat. That boy, Sonny Styles
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: really was that player. I think on the defensive side. Well,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that's what I say for the jetsu too. You got
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to consider him for Tennessee at forty have doing if
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: he's there for Washington, you have to Sonny Styles is
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: if you say, suppose you were arguably you could put
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: him as the second best player in this draft. You
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: could say he was the best player in this draft,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: and nobody would have a problem with that. I don't believe.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Now, who's the best left tackle in the draft.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: That's a great question because I don't think you can
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: really feel confident about the answer. I think it should
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: be Caden Procter. But the inconsistencies with focus and concentration,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: lapses with penalties, letting guys that you shouldn't have beat
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: you beat you, and I call them aogs. There are
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: another occupation guys, they're not going to be playing in
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the NFL, and you're if you can't handle them, are
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: you going to? Now he did handle those guys ninety
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: percent of the time. But you can't have concentration lapses
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. You can't. So you got to play
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: up to that talent. You got to be focused every snap.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: If he can do that, Kateen Procter is the best
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: left tackle one potential in another year based on coaching.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: These offensive line coaches are the most critical aspect of
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: a football team at any level. Monroe Frieling from George
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: is the guy if you had the old LT Piers
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I call him, look the part guys as a left
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: tackle would be Monroe Freeling. The size, the length of feet,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: did good in past bro struggle a little bit as
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: a run blocker, but got better only seventeen starts. I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: wish he had another year because any would have been
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a top two three pick. Somebody's gonna get Monroe feel
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: if you can develop him, and the offensive line coach
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: is gonna be I'm gonna grade that offensive line coach
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: in three years. Whoever draft them their O line coach,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: how did he do with Monroe? Freeling because that has
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: a chance to be really, really good.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Wait, so you're grading the line coach down?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Hey, I said, hey, I said this about Tyler Smith
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: when he came out. Said wow, there's.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Another penalty of Tyler Smith.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Right, wow, another penalty. That's what happened to Tulsa.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: They needed to fix that, eliminate the penalties, which is
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: usually concentration lapses, whatever you want to call it. Tyler
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Smith became a Dallas cowboy. You don't hear about many
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: problems with penalties anymore. Mentioned Jonathan Taylor? Why did he
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: drop to the second round? Had fumbling issues? Don't see
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: that anymore? Right, you got to talk about when drafte
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Why a guy dropped? What does he have to fix? Okay,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: we ought to fix something. You guys ought to fix
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: something to get where you are. You're all stars, but
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: you were you gotta fix something to get where you
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: are on the air, right, what are you fixing? What's
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: going to be? Fi? Well, the offensive line coach work
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: with Monroe Frilling to make him a great left tackle.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: We'll see, right.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I love you grading the coaches after the take guys
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: that you love.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It's so good, Please do it that's awesome.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: How sustainable do you think Taylor Ward started for the
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: Orioles batting three eighty three question?
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: That is a good question.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Look at him, light up, Look at him light up.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say my favorite pitcher, Kyle Bradish. Sorry, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: get it the guys because Kyle's you had the Tommy
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: John surgery. You had a couple of early starts where
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: he had some struggles. Rogers has been like you was
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: last year, pretty much lights out. But the you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the pitching staff. I'm all big into pitching. I grew
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: up as a Baltimoreial fan with Palmer McNally, Quator and
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Dops in the fourth twenty game winners, which we'll never
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: ever see again. So I grew up in that era.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I hope he keeps it going. I the bats gunner
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: and the guys there in the line, So I'm I'm
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: a pitching guy. You gotta have a great pitching and
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping a wild card as possible. We were all
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: hoping that this year. We'll see I'm not conceding anything
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: to the Yankees, but hey, I'm realistic. At best, you're
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a possible wild card and we'll see what happens, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: let's hope it can stay whereas it was jumping around.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: What is it now? You say three eighty three eighty three? Okay, yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: I'll be happy if it stays around three hundred.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, more.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: Way, guys, this is this analytics nonsense, right? Can you
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: just gim me a batty average home runs and analytics smell? Yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: RBIs and RBIs. Remember today I said, I said, it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: it's Ribby's. It's not Ribby. So I said it's not staking, right.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: So when I started saying RB, I S and RB,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: I said, I think we're getting to a problematic part
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: time period here, right. That started to go.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And go and go.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Now we got oh this, i'm LTP or this, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: got all that stuff. You got it. I don't know
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: what the heck they're talking about. You just give me
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: home runs, RBIs, batting average, give me that, Yeah, I
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: mean all this other stuff, I don't know what the
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: hell are talking about. So I don't know what. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: can't relate to those numbers. Can you give me a
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: historical perspective? Because it didn't exist in the sixty seventies
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and eighties, I don't give a dag going about that crap.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Just give me what I want to see that I
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: can just the past years because I'm old. I remember
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: the sixties. Maybe these kids that do analytic stone, I do,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: but I can't compare anything at else. Say it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I love you, Taylor, Jeez, Taylor, do me a favor
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and cut that next time we do.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Do me a favor on the radio show.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Just play that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I want.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Mel. Quick story for you.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I went to see our friend Frank Caliendo live up
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: here in Connecticut, and at the end of his set,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: he said, you know, a lot of people come out,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: they expect to hear certain impersonations, and I like to
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  Speaker 2: leave a few minutes so that we could do whatever
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  Speaker 2: you want. So whatever you guys want, shout it out,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and I swear to you mail ninety five percent of
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the place all yelled out in Unison at the same
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: time Mel Kuiper, and we goes, well for those of
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you who don't know who Mel Kuiper is, and everybody went,
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  Speaker 2: we all know.
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  Speaker 5: And then he gave me seventeen todds in a row.
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  Speaker 4: Give at least ten minutes of that, right, you say,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: don't GI, give me ten minutes on an answer, I think, Frank,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: well give me ten minutes, and he sorted and Todd
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: and Todd is I will tell you to this day
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  Speaker 4: if you get time. That he hates that because he
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: goes every stadium he goes into. Now when he was
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: doing every stadium, he walks into him and he walks
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: around here yelling Tide, that was That was all Frank.
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  Speaker 4: I had nothing to I did always say, which I
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: always do. Mikey knows this. I always say your name
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: a lot when I'm talking to you, all right, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: don't forget who I'm talking to. I like to talk
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: about their name, and its more than one on one
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  Speaker 4: I always do. That's just just a habit, I guess right. Yes,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: So Todd picked up on that, said, no, I've never
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: talked to anybody in my life man, and I don't
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: even like my name, Todd.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I don't like my name, and you say it all
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: That's why. So Frank picked up on that from.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: He said Taylor's name.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: He was he's still beaming, which is forty time.
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  Speaker 3: Now, just quickly out here. You are the greatest check guy.
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  Speaker 3: His work everywhere.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, by the way, that man is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: He loves you so much, Bell, you have to feel
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: saying about him.
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  Speaker 1: It's flattering when he does that, right, you don't care,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you don't take yourself that seriously.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Whatever you guys can make me look like the clown shows,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I probably am most of the time, and I'm happy
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: to see it. Okay, I'm happy to see it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Scathing.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: There's not a scathing article I haven't seen. So anything
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you tailor. If you want to write a bad article
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: about me, you want to do it. It can't be
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: a worst paille or anything I've ever seen over the
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: last fifty years. Okay, he would never. I'm kind of
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: like oblivious to it. Nothing. The bruises are all here.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: You can't bruise me anymore. Okay, I'm bruised and battered,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: so nothing scathing can come out any worse than I've
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: seeing over the last fifty years.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Did you get down to Florida for spring trading? We
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: missed you. Did you get down there?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: The schedule would not allow it to. I say this,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I told you this one of my bucket list right
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: back of the day. They would a bucke list. I'd say,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: one of your bucket list. Things to do is be
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: it spring training?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Well, since I was eighteen, I've been doing the draft
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: stuff right, eighteen, Okay, so from eighteen to sixty six
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: coming up, there's no chance, right, So at some point
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I couldn't do it before eighteen then high school doing
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: my stuff, right, So then you say, after sixty six,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: is there going to be a chance to get me
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: to Florida? Not Arizona, but Florida for spring terres. When
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: I was in school, I always look at I said, man,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I wish it one o five I was in Sarasota today,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Or I wish I was in Duneden. I wish I
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: was down there today. I'd see that when in the
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: newspaper now Baltimore Morning Sun paper, I'd see that, say,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: man at one o five, what I wish I was
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: in Florida's I did sit down there in the classroom. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: I'd love to be loved to be down there for
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the for the grapefruit leg in March.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, you mentioned guys who looked the part.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Is there a guy you can recall from all the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: years you've been doing this who most looked the part
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that ended up not playing the part very well?
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, that's a good one.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think I think to him, but I
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: think in terms of looking the part, i'd say probably
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: if you go to.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: To Marcus Russell, maybe I don't know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely you know he had the best pro
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: day ever. Who I always ask you, guys, I'm gonna
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: give you a quick quiz if the worst pro day
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: the best prote ever was to Marcus Russell? Who had
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the worst I've told you, I've told you guys this time.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: You can't my class. Guys, you gotta get in my class.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the teacher here, I'm the professor. I've
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: mentioned this a hundred times. Who had the worst pro
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: day ever?
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Peyton man I mean.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Peyton Manning wild Believe. I got a call from it
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: wild Believe, balls not get it done and say, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: that's when I heard the comment if his name was
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Peyton Jones would be a third round pick. That was
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Peyton the day, right, Marcus Russell had the best Pro
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: day ever? Yeah, I look back. The guy I thought
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: was going to be great. It was Tony Mandridge back
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: in the day.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And Tony yeahs illustrated.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And to Tony's credit, what happened. He ended up
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: moving to guard with the Colts and ended up having
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: some good years. Right, so he wass a bust to
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: left tackleviding grated ahead of Troy Aikman that year in
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: eighty nine all that stuff. Tony Mandridge say, recovered and
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: became a heck of a guard and it wasn't a
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: bust as a guard looked like I remember people on
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: the league. I said, Tony Mandress is the perfect perfect
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: left tackle in the NFL.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Taylor put it on the poll.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: If Peyton Manning's last name was Jones, would he have
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: been a third round pick?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Such greaty, We appreciate it.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Check about he'll be all over from now until uh well,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: for the next ten days, he'll be all over.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Lake July, I got to correct you. It's late July.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Lot warned people out, says late July. He got me
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: out of the pool, He got me off the beach,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: got me off my orange crushes and crab cakes to
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: drag me in from the pool, from the beach and
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: doing the first raft podcast. In July. We started the
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: first raft podcast. Me and my great friend field Yate
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: started at in late July. So we've been I think
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: people have seen enough of be mine now. I would
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: think him, guess what if you have, you're gonna see
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: a lot more. So you're right still with the time
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: has come. But well, yeah, for me, I can't get
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: what's it two weeks from two weeks from day, we'll
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: be getting ready for day two, right or whatever. I
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: don't know when you're gonna air this thing. It might
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: be over by the time you have this thing.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: You might can't.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I don't care about this anymore. The bottom line is
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: whatever time this airs, uh, it's gonna be close enough
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: where I'll be happy to get this thing rolling.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: There's never enough.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Mikey A texted me during this saying he could listen
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to you all day. I said all day every day.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: He never gets all day.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta read some of those articles. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: people say, you just eliminate him from your podcast forever, okay,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: in the retirement. That's what I've been told. You send
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: him into retirement, not us.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I would rather lose my tyrony don't care.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Mel All right, get out of here and we look
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: forward to you watching you on the NFL Drag on
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a two weeks from the now.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, thank you for the time.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: We appreciate it, but we know you've been appreciate your mouth.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys,