Latest / Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily / Pen Pal - by J.T. Geissinger

Transcript

Pen Pal - by J.T. Geissinger · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

• 0:00
  Hi friends, You're listening to Lose the Plot with Carla and
• 0:03
  Emily. In this episode we're reading
• 0:05
  Pen Pal by JT Geisinger. We're talking about the entire
• 0:09
  book, so warning, there will be spoilers.
• 0:26
  I'm Carla, and we skipped the dinner dates and polite
• 0:29
  conversation and jumped straight to kinky fuckery.
• 0:33
  I'm Emily, and maybe the big bad line has enough of an appetite
• 0:36
  to Take Me Out of this world. Before we dive into this juicy
• 0:42
  episode, we have a tiny favor to ask.
• 0:45
  This is the bit where we beg and plead you to pause.
• 0:49
  I believe it's raining, for fuck's sake.
• 0:54
  Kill us five stars on whatever platform you're using, Please.
• 1:07
  So basically what that does, it helps us reach more people and
• 1:12
  makes our show more legit. So if you happen to have friends
• 1:15
  that also are hoi ho bags, share our podcast directly with them.
• 1:21
  Just spam them. And thank you for supporting us.
• 1:25
  OK, so I heard about this book, obviously on Teacher, but I did
• 1:30
  get the trigger warning from the author's website.
• 1:32
  I thought, let's just go to the top G and figure out what's
• 1:36
  going on. Let's.
• 1:36
  Not make any assumptions. So here's the trigger warnings,
• 1:41
  explicit language, graphic sex, power play dynamics, detailed
• 1:46
  descriptions of death and grief, miscarriage, domestic violence
• 1:50
  and mental illness. Jenna just sounds like my 20s.
• 1:56
  Not games, you know. It was, to summarize, my early.
• 2:03
  20s That was to summarize my trauma, though.
• 2:06
  Who wouldn't be this? No just playing.
• 2:09
  OK, we go to therapy. Oh, shit.
• 2:14
  Yeah. Oh, no.
• 2:16
  I have to retire that. This one's not a punching phone.
• 2:20
  Oh. So do you want to start off
• 2:23
  telling us a little bit about you, girl Kayla?
• 2:26
  I don't know, OK? I want to start by saying no,
• 2:29
  no, fuck this. Let's go somewhere else.
• 2:33
  I would start by saying usually I spoil books for myself, right?
• 2:37
  I see it all on TikTok. I will Google it, I will spoil
• 2:42
  it all. I did not because I went in this
• 2:44
  going. This is just a pen pal prison
• 2:47
  romance and I was like, that was enough information for me and I
• 2:50
  clearly was not doing. Yikes, because I was wrong and
• 2:54
  very confused. We have to keep that spoiler
• 2:57
  shit to the very end because I've got things to bitch about.
• 3:01
  So if you have not read the final chapters of this book, or
• 3:05
  if you're just like midway through and you're just having a
• 3:07
  casual gander on Spotify, fuck off until you finish the book.
• 3:12
  Literally none of this makes sense.
• 3:14
  Unless you decide not to finish the book, and you decide this is
• 3:17
  the way to finish. If if you trust us to tell you
• 3:23
  how this book ends, the Lord help you in the 1st place.
• 3:27
  So it's so anyway, Kayla, you girl Kayla, she's our main girl.
• 3:35
  She's just a little girl living in a spook spook house.
• 3:38
  A big, big spook spook house. A big big spook spook house.
• 3:42
  A big old spook house. Sorry okay.
• 3:47
  So she's an artist that illustrates books which
• 3:51
  convenient. Works from home, lots of free
• 3:54
  time. Lots of free time works from
• 3:56
  home. Yes.
• 3:58
  No places to be, no workplace to go.
• 4:02
  Yeah, I don't know if she's quite well to do, though.
• 4:07
  I think, what, is she rich? She's not, no.
• 4:12
  She'd be struggling to pay them bills because.
• 4:14
  She makes enough. To get by.
• 4:18
  She's scraping. I haven't seen her in a single
• 4:20
  meal. Yeah, I know.
• 4:23
  Well, I was going. To need to.
• 4:26
  For that later, but me. OK, so we're off to a great
• 4:31
  start, don't we? We're just.
• 4:32
  We're probably going to spoil it before we get it, yeah.
• 4:34
  Sorry. No, no, that's not bad.
• 4:36
  It's out of rage. Yeah.
• 4:38
  I didn't know what to expect with this book because as
• 4:41
  always, I avoided all. All I knew was that there was a
• 4:44
  good twist ending. And you girl goes frothy for A
• 4:48
  twist ending. For a just out of nowhere
• 4:50
  ending, I need A twist. It was twisty all the way
• 4:54
  through and nothing was consistent.
• 4:55
  There's no consistency, if anything is the opposite.
• 4:59
  There was one thing that was consistent and we'll talk about
• 5:02
  it later when. We get to it.
• 5:04
  OK, So what We know at the beginning.
• 5:08
  Kayla. She was married to a man,
• 5:11
  Michael, but he's dead now. He's dead.
• 5:14
  He drowned like a man drowned, but like a man, San Francisco
• 5:19
  man, dried. Like a person drowned?
• 5:21
  No, but they didn't even give that info straight up.
• 5:24
  We found out a bit later and it's randomly thrown in that he
• 5:28
  fell off a boat and drowned. Yeah, and her memory is this
• 5:31
  creepy laughter in the background.
• 5:33
  And. That's it.
• 5:35
  Yeah. Yeah, fights out.
• 5:37
  She doesn't remember getting to the funeral.
• 5:41
  She doesn't remember getting home from the funeral.
• 5:43
  No, no. But obviously she's all fucked
• 5:46
  up because they own this house together, the spooky one, and
• 5:49
  she's like, I've got them bills to.
• 5:51
  Yeah, the house is falling apart.
• 5:52
  It's alright. What did he even have?
• 5:55
  Did he have life insurance? Yeah, he did.
• 5:59
  OK, point to Michael. Point to Michael.
• 6:04
  So she's Are you able to pay some bills or she had a will?
• 6:09
  Someone had life insurance, he mentioned.
• 6:11
  In the end, one Kayla or Michael either had lunch.
• 6:19
  Well, it's only relevant if Michael has it because he.
• 6:22
  Thought he died? Exactly.
• 6:23
  Yeah, so it doesn't matter. Kayla, it doesn't.
• 6:28
  So the beginning is giving very much Haunting Avalon vibes.
• 6:32
  I was like, am I accidentally rereading Haunting Avalons it?
• 6:35
  Was very much very similar, and actually I wish we looked up
• 6:38
  when each was published. I do have a computer right in
• 6:42
  front of me immediately, OK. Google is our friend pal book.
• 6:48
  Oh, it was last year published. OK, that was 2022 and then
• 6:52
  haunting Avalon book. Was published drum roll 2021, so
• 7:02
  a whole year later after haunting out of line.
• 7:05
  So maybe Haunting Out line was inspired by Pen Pal cuz they
• 7:09
  have by the way room pen pal was inspired by Haunting Out line.
• 7:13
  Oh, OK, Walking out line was 2021 and then pen pal the year
• 7:16
  after. Oh, OK.
• 7:17
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 7:17
  I thought you said 2020, so no, no, no.
• 7:19
  Sorry, my bad. The first couple of chapters are
• 7:22
  pretty much exactly the same. I know.
• 7:23
  It's like cut and paste. Yeah, it was like that thing in
• 7:27
  the office where Pam's sitting there and she goes.
• 7:29
  The picture is exactly the same. There was the spooky house.
• 7:34
  It was the illustrator instead of an author.
• 7:36
  It was the. Big.
• 7:39
  Old mansion, Yeah. Big yard around it.
• 7:42
  The river, not a Cliff. A river with a boat.
• 7:45
  Yeah. And.
• 7:46
  She did get a security system too.
• 7:48
  Yes, that's right. There was other things also.
• 7:51
  Also. Also, the little Bunny rabbit
• 7:55
  dynamic, yes, was exactly the same.
• 7:57
  It was exactly the same and they also mentioned like they just
• 8:01
  want to play a cat and mouse game and I was like.
• 8:04
  Here we are. Again, we're back.
• 8:06
  I've been here a couple of months ago.
• 8:09
  I didn't think okay. So when I thought pen pal, I
• 8:12
  thought, okay, give me some prison long distance romance
• 8:17
  letter vibes. Yeah.
• 8:19
  But guess what? It's exactly like quanting out
• 8:21
  alone. I honestly thought it was going
• 8:22
  to be like therapist. In jail?
• 8:26
  Gotcha. Don't ask me where the cuts kind
• 8:28
  of made me feel like. I don't.
• 8:29
  Know the cover's giving you all sorts of information feel like.
• 8:32
  You know what? All romancy books, all types of
• 8:35
  romance, cut and paste very much the same.
• 8:39
  So I just assumed right, That's actually kind of more fun than
• 8:43
  what it was. I assumed wrong, obviously, but
• 8:45
  why has she conveniently got a stalker writing her letters?
• 8:49
  Yeah, I. Didn't get in a house from the
• 8:50
  prison. And why did she keep responding?
• 8:52
  She seemed so unhappy with every letter.
• 8:55
  Yeah, I wouldn't respond. I would move house.
• 8:57
  I would have sold that house from the minute she was talking
• 8:59
  about her husband. Her husband sounded like a Dick.
• 9:02
  Oh yeah. And also the letters that she
• 9:04
  was getting were very There was no reference to anything.
• 9:08
  Like, they properly knew her. It was so vague.
• 9:10
  And I was like, you're going to hang on for vague.
• 9:13
  Yeah, the first thing was I'll wait forever if I have to for.
• 9:16
  What for? What?
• 9:18
  Do you even know me, Sir? The mystery of who was mailing
• 9:22
  her was just dumb. It made it really confusing
• 9:25
  because the whole 1st 300 pages of book, even though it's 312, I
• 9:30
  was confused. Literally I was dude, I was more
• 9:33
  confused than. But anyway the bit that was
• 9:35
  funny was it's very like cloak and dagger trench coat man
• 9:38
  standing behind a tree. You're getting letters from
• 9:41
  Prison Pick. Pick one.
• 9:44
  Pick one it's giving you. Yeah, it's giving Joe Goldberg.
• 9:48
  The coin that kept showing up. How?
• 9:51
  How? How?
• 9:52
  How? How?
• 9:53
  I mean, we know how, but we know how, but we don't want to know
• 9:56
  how. But at the start, we didn't know
• 9:58
  how. I'm like, yeah, And then I'm
• 10:01
  like, yeah. Yeah, and then her roof was
• 10:04
  leaking. She had electrical problems.
• 10:07
  Her dryer smelled like it was burning.
• 10:09
  Don't use to dry then. Actually, I do want to point out
• 10:12
  that I realized that Australian, we're lucky.
• 10:16
  We have our little filters in the front of the.
• 10:18
  Dryer yeah. And it makes.
• 10:19
  Sense. And Americans have it up there.
• 10:21
  They hold you. Through their roof, outside
• 10:23
  their wall, they've got a whole chimney system.
• 10:25
  I'm like, you can't even clean that out.
• 10:27
  You have to get someone to clean it out, whereas I can just take
• 10:30
  it out. It just makes sense.
• 10:31
  There wouldn't be no burning smell.
• 10:33
  But you know what though? It's very satisfying watching
• 10:35
  those dryer chimney. Cleaning videos?
• 10:38
  Imagine having. To buy an appliance and having
• 10:40
  to put a whole pipe it. Sorry, I'm going off track.
• 10:43
  Literally, That's us with air conditioners, I suppose.
• 10:46
  Yeah, one hand give us and one hand check.
• 10:49
  It away and. We're talking about this book.
• 10:56
  We're not talking about white goods.
• 10:57
  What do you mean? I thought that's what this whole
• 10:59
  podcast was about. I'm a good white good, Oh my
• 11:03
  God, the Segway. And to us, I could podcast.
• 11:06
  Sorry, and her light bulbs keep burning.
• 11:08
  Out. I'm just ignoring everything.
• 11:12
  So home improvement, Her whole house.
• 11:14
  It sounds like it's made of match sticks and it's collapsing
• 11:16
  around her, yeah? Just collapsing around her.
• 11:19
  It's so big. And they have like, the square
• 11:21
  feet in there. I'm like, you really only ever
• 11:23
  talk about the kitchen in your bedroom, girl.
• 11:26
  But what was Michael doing for work?
• 11:28
  He was professor, a mathematic professor makes sense while he
• 11:32
  was a dickhead. So he's kind of.
• 11:36
  Maybe he's raking it in. I don't know, maybe they were
• 11:40
  kind of well to do with their two incomes.
• 11:42
  Yeah, I don't know, but how did it get run down so fast?
• 11:45
  They bought it and it was like 100 years old.
• 11:49
  They did that ship. Really.
• 11:51
  They bought it recently. Hey, Yeah.
• 11:53
  I was thinking like girl do some maintenance and I've.
• 11:59
  Rather been grieving for a couple of weeks.
• 12:02
  Me just like nagging her. So she's living in this run down
• 12:06
  house alone now. Obviously right after her
• 12:08
  husband's funeral she starts looking around for the cheapest
• 12:13
  handyman to fix cuz the roof is the biggest problem.
• 12:15
  Yeah, it's literally got a fucking cave in Bubbles.
• 12:18
  Tsunami. Bye, bye.
• 12:21
  It scones all the time, apparently, apparently.
• 12:24
  Apparently, apparently. So.
• 12:26
  Obviously that's gonna be. That's gonna be a lot of dosh.
• 12:29
  A lot of dosh. So she calls someone in.
• 12:31
  He's useless. That's the end of Eddie, right?
• 12:35
  It was such a weird point. I was like, OK.
• 12:37
  OK. Cool.
• 12:38
  That's cool for Eddie. And didn't he give her a
• 12:41
  business card that didn't have the right info on it or
• 12:44
  something? There was something weird about
• 12:45
  the business card and I was like, Oh yeah.
• 12:46
  Yeah, we have to talk about it at the end, right.
• 12:48
  Right. No, I didn't.
• 12:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 12:51
  She just pulled it. She whipped.
• 12:52
  It out of the drawer. And she was like, yeah, this
• 12:53
  Stoner handyman is a perfect man to come fix my house, right?
• 12:57
  So she's rude. I know she's breathing, but
• 12:59
  she's rude as fuck the entire time to anyone.
• 13:04
  And I feel like her expectations were so weird at the start.
• 13:07
  Like a tradie doesn't go around doing these kind of jobs for
• 13:11
  charity, for free for people. What?
• 13:13
  He's probably got jobs booked back-to-back.
• 13:17
  The fact that he's coming out to meet you is probably already the
• 13:20
  first hurdle to schedule that, yeah.
• 13:23
  I mean, and then she's like judging and she's like, I'm sure
• 13:26
  he lives in a commune or something and just smokes pot
• 13:28
  all the time. I'm like, about Eddie.
• 13:30
  Yeah, yeah, straight up. He come out for free.
• 13:34
  He's like sliding down. The cut he's trying.
• 13:42
  His hardest right now Killer in enters Aiden.
• 13:46
  Yeah, straight away. He's that silent beef cake.
• 13:51
  And he's wearing flannies. Yeah, he's covered in tattoos,
• 13:55
  right? Not his type, but the sexiest
• 13:57
  man she's ever seen. And that's what I'm assuming is
• 14:01
  the cover of the book, right? That's Hayden.
• 14:02
  Yeah, OK. And that's the reason I was
• 14:06
  confused the entire time. I agree.
• 14:09
  Because between him and Dante, I was like, who is who, where is
• 14:12
  where? And then there was like really
• 14:14
  good banter and I was all for it.
• 14:15
  But I was like, who's Dante? How did we get done?
• 14:18
  And yeah, and wasn't Dante the mystery writer from jail?
• 14:23
  Yes. And so why is she even?
• 14:25
  That's the bit that was weird. It's like, why are you even
• 14:29
  sending letters back if I'm going?
• 14:30
  To be honest, Kayla is fucking stupid.
• 14:34
  She's the dumbest bitch I've ever read about, so she's taking
• 14:39
  the cake. She's taking the lead.
• 14:40
  Probably not. Probably not in the scheme of
• 14:43
  things. OK, but.
• 14:46
  She's not the smartest cookie. You know what?
• 14:48
  You said there was banter and there was dialogue, but to me?
• 14:53
  OK. It was aggressive being mean to
• 14:56
  each other. OK, maybe this is just me
• 14:58
  thinking at the start. When I wrote this, I was just
• 15:01
  getting 0 charisma from both of them at the.
• 15:03
  Start like I just didn't think that this was even going to be
• 15:06
  the pairing and I thought Old Maid on the cover was the Dante
• 15:09
  from jail. I honestly thought Dante was
• 15:12
  going to kill Aiden. I thought that's how that was
• 15:14
  going to go. Yeah.
• 15:15
  But I just thought she was going to say no to him wanting to be
• 15:18
  with her. And then it was this weird, like
• 15:20
  them trying to sort out. Is she going to pay?
• 15:23
  Is she not? Is she going to fuck for the
• 15:25
  roof being fixed or not? Just say it, bro.
• 15:29
  Just say what I've got to do to get my roof done, bro.
• 15:32
  Like you're. Hot.
• 15:33
  I'm like, that was a small amount of banter and I was OK
• 15:36
  with that. That's where I was vibing.
• 15:37
  You're hot, bro. Like I pretty much do it for.
• 15:39
  Free. With your abs if you.
• 15:41
  Want me to? Sweaty and all, but it's like,
• 15:46
  bro, you're going to fix my roof?
• 15:49
  I don't know. Like it was such a weird because
• 15:52
  she wasn't happy about it, but then she kind of wanted him like
• 15:57
  it was so. Weird, but she also thought.
• 15:59
  He would be dumb because of how he looked.
• 16:02
  Yeah, she's super judgy. Yeah, she's never known.
• 16:05
  Not judgy, but why is she so hoity twey?
• 16:08
  Is it because she's, oh, I'm married to this maths professor
• 16:12
  and we're better than everybody? Or yeah, is that reckon her
• 16:16
  vibe? Her vibe, Yeah, Whenever she
• 16:18
  talked, she was very hype about her husband.
• 16:20
  But she talked about him like she hated him.
• 16:22
  Yeah, there was never very. Confused, I kind of thought
• 16:27
  maybe she Loki drowned. I went through so many stages
• 16:31
  where I thought. Dante did.
• 16:33
  And then I thought Aiden did. And it was just a circle.
• 16:35
  Yeah. I didn't know who killed anyone.
• 16:37
  And you know what I also thought?
• 16:39
  I thought he somehow faked his own death, lived and was in jail
• 16:41
  and was pretending to be Dante and was sending her letters.
• 16:44
  Yeah, that's what I thought as well.
• 16:45
  I was like, that's gotta be the twist.
• 16:47
  Yeah. So it's so funny because they
• 16:49
  they somewhat getting to know each other, somewhat trying to
• 16:52
  strike some kind of deal, but it was stupid fucking roof.
• 16:55
  It was banter, but it was depressing.
• 16:57
  Yeah. So she didn't want to get too
• 16:59
  personal with him, though, and she didn't want to admit
• 17:03
  anything to him, including the fact that her husband's dead,
• 17:06
  which I thought, that's kind of something you should say.
• 17:08
  She's walking around with the wedding ring on all the time.
• 17:10
  She's flirting with this brand new man.
• 17:13
  How is that too personal? It's kind of like it does basic
• 17:17
  information. Does he not read the newspaper?
• 17:20
  Probably not, because he's dumb, remember?
• 17:24
  But if you even if this was in the local newspaper and it was a
• 17:27
  couple months ago, do you read the obituaries every day and
• 17:31
  think, I'm gonna run into the wife of this guy, He's probably
• 17:35
  not on your radar. Probably not, especially when
• 17:37
  you look. At him, I mean.
• 17:39
  You're too busy. You're too busy.
• 17:40
  You're booked and busy. Yeah, you're too busy on
• 17:43
  rooftops. Yep, in the sun.
• 17:45
  So he probably has no idea. He has no idea who this chick
• 17:48
  is. No, but I think originally I
• 17:51
  thought it's because she had random bruises on her neck and
• 17:54
  stuff and he just assumed that she was getting because it just
• 17:58
  kept going back to DV, right? Yeah.
• 18:00
  So I think, but it was nothing to do with that obviously.
• 18:04
  It's almost like he assumed that they were separating, but he
• 18:07
  didn't just straight up ask. Yeah, why didn't he ask?
• 18:09
  He could have just said, oh, clearly it's complicated that
• 18:13
  you're separating. But she did say in a bit, she's
• 18:16
  like, Oh yeah, we're separated. But she could have just been
• 18:18
  like, yeah, he's dead. That's so much easier.
• 18:21
  Saved a lot of problems, I know. Saved the entire
• 18:24
  miscommunications about everything.
• 18:26
  Would have saved us at least 50 pages.
• 18:28
  It would have saved me a lot of angst because I was the one
• 18:31
  being angsty. And like mad at her.
• 18:33
  Yes, yes. If you're grown adults and this
• 18:36
  is how you choose to communicate with someone new in your life,
• 18:40
  you're a fucking idiot and someone.
• 18:41
  She murdered her husband. Unless she did.
• 18:44
  I was thinking at the time it. Really doesn't want to
• 18:47
  incriminate herself. Yeah, but yeah, it didn't make
• 18:50
  any sense to hold that back. It's kind of basic information,
• 18:53
  and it would make sense why you're a mopi depressing bitchy
• 18:55
  bitch right now. Yeah, yeah, Because this person
• 18:57
  doesn't even know you. I don't get what appealed.
• 19:00
  Him to her at the start. Because she was sad and mean.
• 19:04
  Yes. Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 19:06
  This guy is hot. Yeah, he is laying pipe all over
• 19:11
  down. He is seeing like milk after
• 19:14
  milk after milk. I just don't get it.
• 19:17
  She's like this sad, cranky Tim Burton girl.
• 19:20
  She's the one. We never.
• 19:21
  Get what she looks like either? No, she's very vague as a
• 19:25
  character. There's no description.
• 19:27
  None. Do you think she's just a self
• 19:28
  insert? Yeah, for the sex scenes, I
• 19:31
  guess. I wasn't here for it, yeah.
• 19:35
  Probably an opinion I probably should keep to myself, but I
• 19:37
  wasn't here for no. Why would you keep that to
• 19:40
  yourself? That's the half the reason,
• 19:41
  that's why. We're here.
• 19:42
  Yeah, literally. We have.
• 19:44
  What? Yeah, let's keep our opinions to
• 19:46
  ourselves on our own podcast. I just don't.
• 19:48
  Want people to be mad. No one's getting mad.
• 19:52
  No one's even commenting right now.
• 19:53
  So it's OK. This is when we can let our
• 19:55
  freak flag fly. It's like once we start getting
• 19:59
  people who put comments and start bashing us, that's how we
• 20:02
  know we've made it. OK, he agrees to do the work on
• 20:09
  the House, which is obviously the whole roof repair, blah
• 20:12
  blah. There was back and forth.
• 20:15
  I guess that's what you would consider flirting I suppose.
• 20:18
  In their reality, she gave him the nickname Fight Club pretty
• 20:22
  early on and I was just like, bro.
• 20:24
  If she could pick any other nickname, that would be fine.
• 20:27
  Honestly, out of the list of nicknames in this book, it makes
• 20:30
  me want to die. It didn't even make.
• 20:33
  Nothing makes sense. But why Fight Club?
• 20:36
  That's such an old movie. This girl, well, this woman is
• 20:40
  like a young woman. She couldn't call him.
• 20:41
  Is called Fight Club. She could have called him any
• 20:44
  other name. Every time I read the word.
• 20:47
  Fight Club I. Literally.
• 20:50
  Between Fight Club Lion and Bunny, I couldn't hope I nearly
• 20:58
  quit the book I was. Like you've already read the
• 21:00
  whole thing. I couldn't even beat.
• 21:01
  I was. It was so funny because when you
• 21:04
  send me that screenshot and I knew you were fighting me alive,
• 21:07
  I was like the middle of the book.
• 21:09
  I fucking love because I read it a couple weeks ago and I was
• 21:14
  like. The screenshot said.
• 21:20
  That your little. Birdie worked up an appetite
• 21:22
  from getting fucked so well by her big bad lion.
• 21:25
  I was done. It was only 80 pages in, but is
• 21:28
  it a wolf or a lion? Because there was one point He
• 21:31
  looked at her wolfishly. Was like.
• 21:35
  Well, it's. Just hairy.
• 21:37
  Well, he's got pits for days. Oh shit, so funny.
• 21:41
  You know, this flirting, it was very clunky to me.
• 21:45
  It wasn't sexy and it wasn't even interesting.
• 21:47
  Like, you know how sometimes you get the quirky couple and their
• 21:50
  flirting's like, okay? That's maybe not what I would
• 21:52
  say, but it's fine. I love a good, mean flirting,
• 21:55
  though. Yeah, but it wasn't.
• 21:58
  In the right area. Here's my reenactment of them
• 22:01
  floating. I'm ready.
• 22:02
  He's just like, well, that's just cuz I'm smarter than you
• 22:05
  little rabbit. And then she'll be like, well,
• 22:08
  there's that humor again. Fight Club or something.
• 22:10
  I'm like you guys even talk about.
• 22:12
  The same person, so they don't know what's sad.
• 22:16
  That was the only thing getting me through, and it wasn't even
• 22:20
  good. But there was a constant or
• 22:23
  there's that humor again. And he's not humorous.
• 22:25
  He is the most grump grump that ever grumped and she was the
• 22:28
  most sad sack that ever sacked. So it's kind of like what is
• 22:31
  happening here? But they both thought that they
• 22:34
  were falling into this like. Deep rich.
• 22:37
  I mean, I think we're pretty funny, love.
• 22:39
  And I'm like you guys. So maybe it's just gone on out.
• 22:42
  Their level of funny is like a one an ounce is a 10 and that
• 22:45
  one, I love that that turned into a flex about us 00 K So OK,
• 22:54
  sorry, I literally just. Go back.
• 22:57
  I read OK, so. I've got a quote for you.
• 23:01
  And I read it a bit ahead, and that's why I started gagging.
• 23:04
  OK, before I say the quote, can we just establish that this is a
• 23:12
  total fucking proximity rebound? Fuck, this man just walked into
• 23:19
  your house and he has a he didn't.
• 23:21
  Even say who he was, he just said Aiden.
• 23:24
  She was like, who are you? And he was like Aiden and she's
• 23:26
  like, OK, Aiden, who are you? Why are you at my house?
• 23:30
  Right? Because she didn't call him
• 23:31
  either. But can we just establish that's
• 23:34
  what this is? Let's not, like, stop.
• 23:36
  That's why I thought. He was the stalker.
• 23:40
  Like he's immaterial to me. He is nobody.
• 23:45
  He is a fuck boy. He's nobody.
• 23:47
  I don't get what what are we supposed to be getting from this
• 23:50
  material? That he is the book boyfriend of
• 23:52
  the century. He's not.
• 23:53
  He's not like, put him back in his place.
• 23:56
  Sprinkle, sprinkle. Like I just don't.
• 23:59
  Are we reading the same story? Ready for the quote?
• 24:03
  OK, this is when I guess they're fucking ready.
• 24:05
  I just got to get it going. I just didn't even care.
• 24:07
  He stops licking to suckle my clit like he like he's drawing
• 24:13
  milk. For the new I oh get some in his
• 24:18
  mouth mindlessly. Girl, I'm so glad you're praying
• 24:23
  this up, because that was going to be my quote at the start, and
• 24:25
  I did. You can't just put it on people
• 24:27
  like that at the start. You can't.
• 24:29
  That's just too insane. People click.
• 24:31
  On I never. It'll be like touching a whole
• 24:33
  story, but they're going to be like, ah, I never puked this,
• 24:37
  but. I don't know what it is about.
• 24:38
  Anytime I know, OK, I know. You OK?
• 24:44
  I would just. My friend is fried.
• 24:54
  OK, for one. I don't want to think about a
• 24:58
  little Milkies from the Clitty, OK the Clitty milk.
• 25:11
  You need to get that shit. On I'm fucking orbiting your
• 25:16
  Fuck it, I'm calling Elon Musk. I'm going to Mars.
• 25:19
  This is fucked. I'm done.
• 25:21
  Done with this planet. I'm fucking done.
• 25:26
  I'm done taking you out of here. Nah.
• 25:30
  OK. Because that was.
• 25:31
  The worst. That was the worst.
• 25:34
  Quite. You know what?
• 25:36
  She was right about one thing, She is fucking mindless, she
• 25:41
  said. Orgasm in his mouth, mindlessly.
• 25:44
  Everything you're doing is mindless.
• 25:45
  You're. Too bad you're laying there,
• 25:48
  right? And you're like.
• 25:50
  In your brain as you'll get. Now you're like.
• 25:55
  He's sucking on it like he's sucking titty milk.
• 26:02
  Just breastfeeding this big old baby.
• 26:07
  You cannot move back from that. I'm so sorry.
• 26:11
  I was just retired from having. That's one of them.
• 26:15
  Intrusive thoughts I would think about all the time.
• 26:19
  Yeah, I'd be like. Why did my brain do that to me,
• 26:22
  but something I also hate? Is when they're talking.
• 26:26
  About getting licked out. I know it's licking, but he
• 26:29
  they'll be like he's licking. Just a word.
• 26:32
  Licking. I don't know.
• 26:33
  It gives me the like. I understand.
• 26:35
  But surely there's a I've never, I've never read it in another
• 26:39
  book before. I don't think probably have.
• 26:42
  It didn't affect. Me like as.
• 26:43
  Much as this. One, I think it's the fucking
• 26:46
  combination of the obscure things we didn't need that we
• 26:50
  didn't need that JT. Take it back.
• 26:52
  Take it back. Take it back.
• 26:54
  I want this fucking republished. I want you to fucking take it.
• 27:00
  Back out again. I need an apology from the
• 27:03
  fucking publisher. I need a fucking.
• 27:07
  Refund. Also also before we get to the
• 27:12
  clean milk Okay okay. Alright.
• 27:18
  I can't When they're in the bar and he's like hitting on her and
• 27:21
  he's straight up just goes, I just want to hear you moan.
• 27:24
  If any other person said that in the bar to me, I'd call the
• 27:27
  police. I would call.
• 27:29
  I'd go. Home, I'd be scared the whole
• 27:33
  conversation. I'd be too scared.
• 27:35
  The whole conversation. In the bar, yeah.
• 27:38
  Even if they hotly answered that to me, yeah, I'd be traumatized,
• 27:41
  of course. And he just casually and she was
• 27:43
  just like, I'm overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed because you're
• 27:46
  scared for your. Or overwhelmed because he's
• 27:49
  attractive. Where's the line?
• 27:50
  I don't know. And I also don't know.
• 27:53
  They didn't specify, like, yeah, we fucking for the roof.
• 27:57
  He never long said. Straight up I'm interested in
• 27:59
  you kind of thing. It was just all very It was all.
• 28:03
  I just want to hear you moan straight up.
• 28:06
  Fucking subscribe to my only fans then, bitch.
• 28:09
  But like even he says, I really want to make you cum just out of
• 28:12
  nowhere, there at the bar, at the table, drinking around.
• 28:15
  People have some dinner chance, some glass.
• 28:26
  We don't want to hear about you moaning, orgasming, coming, you
• 28:29
  fucking clitty milk 'cause nobody needs this right now.
• 28:33
  Keep it to yourselves, you filthy animals.
• 28:38
  I just stop. I can't go to the weird boomers
• 28:43
  actually cannot wait until it's 70 years old and we're just
• 28:46
  going. Damn.
• 28:47
  Do you know? What's wild to me when we're
• 28:50
  old? So you know how, like boomers
• 28:52
  listen to their music from the 80s, nineties now, Yeah.
• 28:55
  Our music when we're old, in our 90s is probably going to be like
• 28:58
  a whap. So are we going to in the Yeah,
• 29:01
  I'm going to break a hip. Drop it low.
• 29:05
  Literally, Yeah. Oh, fucking hell.
• 29:09
  Of course that quote took us fucking 20 minutes to work
• 29:12
  through in process. So Kayla's main concern about
• 29:17
  hooking up with this new guy is what her freshly dead husband
• 29:20
  would think, which at the time she thought was What are you
• 29:24
  doing? This man probably doesn't even
• 29:26
  have a college degree. Michael, is sugar in his grade?
• 29:30
  Jesus, she's just busted it open for any guy with a high school
• 29:34
  education. He's like, how dare that man get
• 29:42
  on that roof? He's like, in heaven or he's in
• 29:44
  hell, or he's in his jail cell, whatever the fuck.
• 29:47
  And he's just like looking down at it and just being like, oh oh
• 29:51
  damn. This man has tattoos.
• 29:55
  Scandalous. Isn't that just funny, though?
• 29:58
  Because Michael sounds like a weirdo.
• 30:01
  He's probably. I mean, if you were to pick a
• 30:05
  rebound, this is the guy for it. He probably twitches.
• 30:09
  There's nothing wrong with, yeah, there's nothing wrong with
• 30:11
  either of them things. But on Michael, there is
• 30:12
  something wrong, Yeah, but I just feel like he's the most
• 30:15
  rebounding rebound that ever rebounded.
• 30:17
  So what do you what? Do you mean if you're going to
• 30:19
  rebound, you might as well shoot from the stars?
• 30:21
  Yeah, he is the epitome of rebound material.
• 30:23
  I thought you Michael can throw it around?
• 30:26
  Nah, Nah. Nah, but then roofing arms.
• 30:30
  But I just think that's what you're thinking about when
• 30:32
  you're hooking up with this hotty, hotty hot hot potato
• 30:35
  you're thinking about. She did it with her ring on.
• 30:37
  What would Michael think? I mean, that's the part that
• 30:41
  stressed her, not everything else in this riveting sex scene.
• 30:46
  Oh, in this riveting. He goes I'm going to devalue
• 30:51
  little Bunny rabbit piece by tasty piece.
• 30:54
  I'm going to eat you up and. I continued to die.
• 30:58
  I thought you were going to say End Quote and I was like.
• 31:01
  End Quote Get done Cancel. Cancel.
• 31:05
  I honestly think that might have been my piece.
• 31:08
  Before the screenshot I said you saw, I was just getting
• 31:10
  overwhelmed. Yeah, that's when you were
• 31:13
  starting to drown. I.
• 31:15
  Was like, I was almost OK with this book and then we just got
• 31:18
  to hear. I just want to speak to Dead
• 31:21
  Michael real quick. OK.
• 31:24
  OK. So, Michael, you do not need a
• 31:27
  university education to get the job done, my bro, what are you
• 31:32
  thinking? To also to add to that, Kayla
• 31:35
  admitted that she's only ever done missionary.
• 31:39
  I must have missed that one. I just felt like a bullet.
• 31:42
  I was like. She hasn't done anything.
• 31:46
  That's why they were going slow, cuz she's only done missionary
• 31:50
  going slow. The first time she fucking came
• 31:53
  over, she was running around naked, her tits just flapjacking
• 31:56
  in the wind. Actually, yeah, nothing cringe
• 31:58
  is more cringe than them flapjacks kitties.
• 32:01
  But then knowing someone for two days, dude, you could not pay me
• 32:07
  a billion dollars to run around someone's home naked.
• 32:10
  And the first time you're hooking.
• 32:12
  Up. Especially since she said she
• 32:14
  does it in the dark. She's confident the second my
• 32:18
  size. What if she tripped?
• 32:23
  Well, naked? That would give me the X so
• 32:25
  fast. Oh my God, what if?
• 32:29
  She knocked herself out and she was naked and he was someone
• 32:32
  would be like, call the police. But honestly, she was like, I'm
• 32:36
  not this type of girl, but she met him a day ago.
• 32:39
  You are this kind of girl now, bitch.
• 32:41
  You are now and she kept using the words love.
• 32:44
  She was like, I love it, Aiden. She was just so intense, but
• 32:48
  then very vague. They had a lot of big sappy
• 32:50
  quotes in between all of this weird Bunny fucking.
• 32:55
  Yes, that is so true. And that was a lot of the weird
• 32:57
  Bunny. Fucking There was a lot.
• 32:59
  There was a lot. And every time she spoke, it was
• 33:01
  giving, you know, Debbie Ryan when she does the the hair.
• 33:05
  Well, someone will know what? I'm talking about Debbie Ryan
• 33:07
  when she does a little smoke and she pushes her hair behind her
• 33:10
  ear across. Between that and ballast one
• 33:14
  with the flickering eyes, that's what it was.
• 33:16
  The energy. Yeah, I.
• 33:18
  Found the quote that gave. The energy.
• 33:20
  Oh, and it goes. I don't know anything beyond
• 33:23
  that. And I hope you won't press me
• 33:24
  for more, because I tend to act like a cornered wolf when I get
• 33:27
  backed up against the wall. And believe me when I tell you
• 33:29
  that it's not pretty. So who's the wolf now?
• 33:33
  I don't know, but if anyone. If anyone said that to me, I
• 33:36
  would fade into the Bush. You'd pull her home a Simpson.
• 33:40
  I would be like this is not. It for me and it's.
• 33:44
  Whenever people say that, they're just full of shit.
• 33:47
  I'm like OK. What have you been?
• 33:50
  Doing. You're like, what could you do
• 33:52
  to me? I'm a big.
• 33:53
  You're a big boy. You're not the that much of the
• 33:56
  main character. Like, chill?
• 33:58
  Yeah. Are you the widow?
• 34:00
  Or are you the wolf now? Oh, OK, so I've got a quote.
• 34:03
  Sorry. I just.
• 34:07
  I always spoil it for myself. OK, get ready to take my cum,
• 34:11
  baby. Open that sweet pussy wide.
• 34:16
  Yep. I heard that just before the.
• 34:20
  Baby. Maybe he should have gone to
• 34:22
  university because he does not understand anatomy.
• 34:26
  I'm done. Yeah.
• 34:31
  I'm done, yeah. We.
• 34:34
  Can't open our pussy wide, Sir. She just spread them like she.
• 34:38
  Just put some clams. Smells just like she's holding
• 34:42
  it. Open.
• 34:45
  Hands stop it. Fingers to sides.
• 34:50
  I'm done. That was enough.
• 34:53
  That was enough that was. That's cancelled.
• 34:55
  That whole that was. Like chapter 12 and Chapter 13.
• 34:59
  And let me tell you, it was enough.
• 35:02
  Why are we? Here why?
• 35:03
  Why are we doing this? And I was still.
• 35:05
  Fucking confused. OK, so like, they're fucking
• 35:09
  cool. Why are they pretending?
• 35:11
  Like there's depth, not? Where is it?
• 35:14
  There's none. Because let me tell you, there's
• 35:17
  another quote, OK? We're just a quote podcast now.
• 35:22
  I'm sorry and it. Give your.
• 35:24
  Lion a kiss. Bunny, make it sweet followed up
• 35:27
  with Can we sit at your house now?
• 35:29
  I can't wait to find out what kind of palace a Lion King
• 35:32
  builds for himself. Not that exact moment I.
• 35:39
  Questioned all my life decisions.
• 35:43
  Like, maybe these guys just want to be fairies and like, that's
• 35:46
  fine, but just. Like fucking if that's what.
• 35:50
  If that's if they put that in the start and they're like this
• 35:52
  is a fairy room, that would be OK that would make more sense.
• 35:56
  But this is grown. 3035 year olds and interweaved in Was all
• 36:00
  this normal, realistic shit? Yeah.
• 36:03
  And then they just they never talked about it.
• 36:05
  They never talked about role play.
• 36:07
  They never talked about it. They're just like, let's just do
• 36:10
  it. Do this.
• 36:13
  And it's only because she's only ever done missionary.
• 36:15
  So this is all like his idea, right?
• 36:17
  Yeah, of course. So you're just going?
• 36:18
  To do whatever the guy you just met wants to do, Yeah, or he
• 36:22
  could also. Murder you, girl?
• 36:24
  Yeah, like what? I'm not adjusting to someone
• 36:26
  else's kinks. No.
• 36:28
  Fuck. That not without talking about
• 36:31
  it or something. Any conversations?
• 36:35
  The fucking and the Bunny and line thing, that's what I mean.
• 36:39
  Except she saw that poetry book or something once.
• 36:43
  Yeah, and that was at the end. But then.
• 36:45
  But then she just kept cracking jokes about and he was just
• 36:48
  like, that's because I'm smarter than you, babe.
• 36:51
  Like Bunny, that's because I'm just.
• 36:53
  Smarter than you, Bunny. No, another quote that was
• 37:06
  actually fucked. Okay.
• 37:07
  I've got another quote. So here's one from Pitney Hall
• 37:10
  of Fame, right. So this is when she's talking to
• 37:12
  Aiden. This is generally before they're
• 37:14
  even dating, cuz you know how it takes them a long time to sort
• 37:16
  of get there with the dating, the dating.
• 37:19
  They're fucking, but they're not dating.
• 37:20
  Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. So this is what she says.
• 37:23
  The past is dead, so whatever happened, whatever you've done,
• 37:27
  just know that I'll never ask you to explain yourself to me.
• 37:31
  I'll also never judge you for something like you did to keep
• 37:34
  someone else from getting hurt, no matter how bad that something
• 37:38
  was. Life is messy and we all have
• 37:40
  reasons for doing what we do. I don't care about anything you
• 37:44
  did before we met for context. He murdered.
• 37:47
  His father and. I feel like that should matter
• 37:52
  to someone. I mean, he was.
• 37:54
  Abusing his mum, but but she's just the queen of clean slate.
• 37:59
  That's what I mean. They would either have.
• 38:01
  The Bunny line thing. Or they have these really deep
• 38:05
  long paragraphs where no one speaks like that.
• 38:10
  I feel like the author didn't read it out loud.
• 38:13
  And also. Like, why is she coming so hard
• 38:15
  for him? Why are you defending this man
• 38:17
  that much he just don't like? I think it's after the first.
• 38:21
  They have sex and that's what's it was just so weird.
• 38:24
  He gives her a bath. And gives her some wine and it's
• 38:27
  kind of like she's trying to say it's okay, that you've
• 38:30
  technically been a disgusting, horrible person as long as I'm
• 38:34
  with you now. Like I can make your life better
• 38:36
  kind of thing. And I'm like, yeah, me, yeah,
• 38:39
  biggest pick me energy. No, she is, though.
• 38:42
  The whole time. Because he did go to jail.
• 38:45
  Yeah, right. So like.
• 38:46
  It was very much. Oh, I'll.
• 38:48
  Be your redemption me. Okay, I'm con.
• 38:53
  Call is the community service in your pussy.
• 38:58
  Not that community. Michael like I'm just looking
• 39:03
  down like. Not the community.
• 39:07
  Not the Community Center Dick, Anyway.
• 39:11
  So that's when I decided she's gone to the Pygmy Hall of Fame
• 39:14
  and I'm done with her. Oh yeah, literally.
• 39:17
  I was willing to give her a chance.
• 39:19
  I was willing to get past the whiny stage because she was
• 39:21
  like, grieving and shit. And then I just didn't.
• 39:24
  Carry more. I was like, OK, like just admit
• 39:26
  that you're getting Dick down instead of going to therapy.
• 39:28
  Yeah, I. Mean she even went to.
• 39:31
  Like a grieving, grieving group. And she said, put it's maltre.
• 39:36
  And. She just.
• 39:40
  She left. She didn't.
• 39:42
  She was there for a minute and that's when they.
• 39:44
  Actually started hooking up, I think with her not telling him
• 39:47
  about her dead husband. She told Eddie and she even
• 39:49
  goes. I told Eddie the handyman my
• 39:51
  husband was dead. He never riled me up the arse
• 39:54
  and called me his Bunny, though. I well.
• 39:57
  You'd hope not. That's a working class man.
• 40:01
  Working now too. Fast.
• 40:03
  You have to do many places to be.
• 40:06
  Not everyone loves that from you, Kayla.
• 40:07
  You're fucking weirdo. Like.
• 40:10
  Jesus. Can we find out how?
• 40:12
  Easily. She took it up the bar, though.
• 40:15
  That's a whole separate thing, okay.
• 40:20
  Go back to Eddie. Go back.
• 40:21
  To this so like so I didn't get why did she tell Eddie and not
• 40:27
  him? Yeah, make that.
• 40:29
  Make sense? Why are you so sad?
• 40:31
  But you could tell Eddie I know. You just told him, but you
• 40:34
  thought he was a donor. Idiot.
• 40:36
  But she also told it Eddie. She was having blackouts and
• 40:39
  migraines, and he could have been the psycho.
• 40:41
  He could have been like, well, I'll just come back when you're
• 40:43
  fucking blacked out on the couch again.
• 40:44
  And like, how many times did any even visit?
• 40:46
  Wasn't it just the one time? Didn't he give her the
• 40:50
  information about the therapist? Yeah.
• 40:52
  Yeah. So this is.
• 40:54
  When I all started going. Downhill with Sheriff, yeah.
• 40:59
  I only have one more thing and then we can talk about anal.
• 41:03
  I love something about anal. We love it.
• 41:06
  It's only a good topic. So during the whole book she
• 41:08
  needs to draw 27 illustrations for a book.
• 41:11
  She only has six weeks left. The fact that she was never
• 41:16
  putting pen to paper had me sugar.
• 41:19
  I was like, go, You've got a deadline, you crazy bitch.
• 41:21
  You don't have time to be getting Dick down this much.
• 41:24
  Maybe she works good under pressure.
• 41:26
  Of course she was drawing rabbits.
• 41:28
  Some bunnies for children's books?
• 41:30
  Yeah, that's too close. To home, but she's probably.
• 41:34
  She's 7 to do. Maybe she couldn't draw.
• 41:36
  The rabbits, because she was it was hitting too close.
• 41:40
  She was like, this will be me later, wasn't she?
• 41:44
  Making them all depressed by accident, Yeah, she was trying
• 41:47
  to draw them all cutesy and then they were like, just sad, sad.
• 41:53
  Sad. Sad.
• 41:54
  Sad rabbits OK, anal. In this book, anal just came out
• 41:59
  of nowhere. It was just OK.
• 42:01
  You just rammed it in. It came out of nowhere.
• 42:04
  He didn't even loop it up. They didn't talk about it
• 42:08
  properly, she. Literally, practically from what
• 42:12
  I remember, I was probably wrong because this whole book is a
• 42:14
  whirlwind. She just pulled them cheeks
• 42:17
  apart and was like, yes, do it. I know there was no working up.
• 42:22
  Towards his massive Dick. I'm assuming he had because they
• 42:25
  all have massive money. And also, again, it's the same
• 42:29
  trope in books where they never have that discussion and somehow
• 42:33
  it's. Always when they're in their
• 42:35
  most loving period, that's what. I don't.
• 42:38
  Understand. It's like, oh, now I've done all
• 42:41
  the rough stuff. Now that I'm in love with you,
• 42:43
  let me ram it in the Boo holes job.
• 42:49
  Yup. You would not do that to someone
• 42:51
  you'd love, no. You would at least.
• 42:55
  Buy a bucket of blue. Before you try at least and you
• 42:58
  would maybe. Why?
• 43:00
  You love? Yeah.
• 43:02
  He didn't even put a finger. In I don't think.
• 43:04
  It was straight. It's always like he accidentally
• 43:06
  did it, like he got his way, lost on the way to the purse,
• 43:09
  but he just, he just went out with it.
• 43:10
  He's like, Oh well, we're in there now, she cried.
• 43:13
  You know the difference. It's always.
• 43:16
  Wild to me. Oh my God, we haven't even
• 43:17
  gotten to the stupid the bit that the bit.
• 43:21
  That had me buying my ticket to escape earth if I could afford
• 43:25
  it, which unfortunately I can't. So like here I am, right?
• 43:28
  Otherwise I wouldn't be here if I have to.
• 43:30
  Go for it out for Elon Musk. I might have to pull out my
• 43:33
  retirement fund because. And I've got a direct quote, and
• 43:41
  this is during sex, right? So they're literally fucking
• 43:47
  through credit teeth, he says. Repeat the safe word.
• 43:51
  Cheesy. Good girl.
• 43:55
  Gripping. Gripping my hips, he shoves
• 43:58
  inside me with a guttal grudge. Fuck off, Cheesy.
• 44:04
  You're not going to. Say cheesy.
• 44:06
  Before. You stick your Dick in me.
• 44:11
  Because she thought it was cheesy.
• 44:14
  Go. Nothing would make my legs clamp
• 44:16
  shot faster than someone saying cheesy mm HM.
• 44:20
  Isn't that the point? What songs is?
• 44:22
  Supposed to be laughing when he's putting the D?
• 44:25
  In because that would make me do you.
• 44:27
  Fucking lose it, do you not? Laugh when you get the.
• 44:29
  D in because I sometimes do. Oh my God.
• 44:34
  I just don't. I just.
• 44:38
  To be fair, this. Whole book was in parts, right
• 44:41
  in my brain. It was in parts.
• 44:42
  It was the weird banter. It was the chapters of sex that
• 44:47
  had nothing else. But sex in it?
• 44:49
  And then it was the rest. Yeah, I know, but it was like
• 44:53
  the sex. The.
• 44:55
  Next bit and then the end. Yeah, yeah, so true.
• 44:58
  The mid was very much sex, yeah, and meaningless.
• 45:02
  There was no. Working into the romance.
• 45:05
  There was no romance. There was no build up.
• 45:06
  There was no, oh, they know each other so well now, now.
• 45:09
  It's good that they're together always.
• 45:11
  Yeah. It was always sex in the
• 45:14
  apartment, chasing around the apartment.
• 45:16
  Yeah, they fucked in the forest, on the floor, on the floor of
• 45:20
  the forest, the floor of the forest.
• 45:21
  Forest the friends, Right. Friends of the forest.
• 45:24
  Little Bunny in the forest. I just.
• 45:27
  Yeah, that bit was giving me very much murdery vibes because
• 45:31
  she was a little naked, splayed out on the ground and he was
• 45:33
  still fully clothed. And I was like, yeah.
• 45:36
  Yeah. Could you imagine driving past?
• 45:41
  So I was imagining other people seeing it, but yes.
• 45:46
  Like why call the? Police wouldn't.
• 45:48
  Why wouldn't you? It's like a naked lady because
• 45:51
  she's like laughing. I.
• 45:53
  Don't know, maybe. Depends how far away you are.
• 45:56
  Yeah, true. Cuz even if they're laughing,
• 45:58
  they could be. What if you're like trying to
• 45:59
  help her? And then?
• 46:00
  He's she's like into it. And then you're like, and then
• 46:03
  he turns around and he's got a wolf mask on and he starts
• 46:05
  running. And do you like wolf speed?
• 46:07
  You're. Like.
• 46:10
  Arms in the air like. Them car things you need to be
• 46:14
  here, they're just trying to help, but it's.
• 46:18
  She's all good. I get it.
• 46:19
  It's. Like I get it, I interrupted
• 46:22
  you. I don't have the problem.
• 46:23
  Now OK, so. Why were they in the?
• 46:26
  Forest because he had like. A thing.
• 46:29
  A house he was building in the middle of the Palace of the
• 46:32
  Lion. Lion Palace, the.
• 46:35
  Lion King. The Lion Palace.
• 46:39
  We must visit it at the stroke of midnight.
• 46:42
  Oh look, she tripped. And now we're going to fuck on
• 46:44
  the ground. Even met.
• 46:46
  To be clear, we you obviously called the police thinking about
• 46:51
  it as we move past. And I was like, it sounds like I
• 46:53
  would just ignore that, but I would probably call the police.
• 46:55
  Yeah, I wouldn't approach, no. But.
• 46:59
  Even when they were talking about this House.
• 47:01
  They were like, she see The Lion King Palace, but then she was
• 47:04
  like, hopefully your other little Bunny pallets are not
• 47:08
  hanging up on the wall. Do you believe that this man has
• 47:12
  never called anyone else Bunny cause he no brand new?
• 47:15
  I feel like he's. On repeat.
• 47:17
  This man's on repeat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:19
  He's got no new material because apparently he hates everyone.
• 47:23
  You don't just come at someone brand new with little Bunny and
• 47:26
  start fucking chasing around the house naked.
• 47:27
  Sorry. OK, but.
• 47:29
  Bunny is arguably cuter than calling someone Lion and Fight
• 47:32
  Club. Like that would send.
• 47:34
  If he was every now and then like oh hey Bunny or something,
• 47:38
  even though I'd probably die inside it, well, they're as bad
• 47:41
  as each other. So if my partner called.
• 47:43
  Me Bunny, I'd literally go tell him to fucking.
• 47:47
  Yeah, because you'd be like where does that?
• 47:49
  Because I'd be like I. I'm not the one.
• 47:53
  I feel like that the type of guy that's going to call you little
• 47:56
  Bunny or whatever, the fuck, he's got to play the part
• 48:01
  because. If someone dead off, put it in
• 48:03
  the eyes and call me people, I gotta have the.
• 48:05
  Masculinity. Wow.
• 48:07
  That word? Masculinity.
• 48:11
  If he hasn't got it like a hundred 110 testosterone's.
• 48:15
  Out of 100, he cancelled. Yeah, if he's not chopping.
• 48:18
  Wood in the backyard. I don't want to hear it.
• 48:20
  I don't want to hear it. And that's not us being sexist.
• 48:23
  That's just like, you can't pull it off, bro.
• 48:25
  Yeah, so don't. Even try.
• 48:27
  Yeah. You were mentioning how this
• 48:29
  book is in lumps. It lumps, yeah.
• 48:33
  Can I just take us to the next lump?
• 48:35
  Let's move on from the sex. Lump, yes.
• 48:38
  So that's fine. The next lump is when it's about
• 48:40
  halfway through the book, everything just suddenly takes a
• 48:44
  weird turn, and suddenly everything's about ghosts,
• 48:48
  blonde children running around the house, creepy dude standing
• 48:51
  behind the trees, and Michael's fucking antique coin out of
• 48:54
  nowhere. Out of nowhere, there's no.
• 48:56
  Flow. There's no flow into it.
• 48:58
  And it was just like, cool, This is a fucking conjuring.
• 49:00
  Book me out. Like go.
• 49:02
  And I was like, did I accidentally press something on
• 49:04
  my Kindle? I mean, like we literally had.
• 49:06
  Two bits where it was like, oh, there's creaking in the house
• 49:09
  and we're like, yeah, it's an old house, but then it's like.
• 49:12
  Creaking in the house. It goes from pure sex to
• 49:14
  creaking in the house. My cupboards are everywhere.
• 49:16
  The TV's standing on the doorbell keeps going just out of
• 49:19
  fucking nowhere. There's a poltergeist.
• 49:21
  Yeah, poltergeist. There's a little kid running
• 49:24
  around my backyard and I need to get security cameras because
• 49:27
  yeah, my. Security cameras don't work.
• 49:30
  This random man looks familiar. And there was an entire chapter
• 49:34
  about old love. What's the name?
• 49:36
  Whose cousin or sister or whatever is the medium?
• 49:40
  Oh yeah, so but why do we? Need a whole chapter, so Fiona
• 49:43
  is the house. She comes Mondays and she, her
• 49:46
  sister Claire was a medium, but immediately that whole thing,
• 49:52
  she's going through all of that when Aiden tells her she needs
• 49:55
  to get her shit together and work out the room.
• 49:59
  That's why that happened, because there was no fucking,
• 50:01
  because she was too busy getting clarity.
• 50:04
  And The funny thing is he was like, we should have space, but
• 50:09
  then later got mad about it and be like, I didn't know the space
• 50:12
  would turn into distance. I'm like, fucking what?
• 50:16
  Get fucked. Get fucked.
• 50:17
  That's what happens. With space, yeah.
• 50:20
  Idiot. Like, don't be surprised when
• 50:25
  you don't hang. Out as much and stop.
• 50:27
  This is what you wanted. You also have a.
• 50:30
  Yeah, like you could have initiated or said I made a
• 50:32
  mistake or put some effort in bro.
• 50:34
  What effort has Aiden done so far?
• 50:37
  Absolutely. Has he even fixed the roof.
• 50:39
  We don't technically even know he's never he put.
• 50:42
  Patchings on it or a top? The weather has been too hectic.
• 50:46
  Oh mate, Eddie could have done that for free and she wouldn't
• 50:49
  be having loose balls. Exactly.
• 50:51
  So before that happened, she goes to, she gets jealous and
• 50:55
  goes to dinner. And This is why they're on a
• 50:57
  break. Yeah, because she's goes to the
• 51:00
  building Eddie suggests, and there's no therapist there
• 51:04
  there. How conveniently is a medium
• 51:07
  like a psychic, where she gets her tarot red and then she's
• 51:11
  free for free again, and then she's really jealous and because
• 51:15
  he's walking in with his friend's wife?
• 51:18
  And that was so weird that didn't make sense.
• 51:21
  When you think about the end of the book, no it did not.
• 51:24
  Make any. I'm still confused about that
• 51:26
  part. It was just to make her look
• 51:28
  like a clingy bitch, essentially, Yeah, but I don't
• 51:31
  understand. The friends anyway.
• 51:33
  Paranormal. OK, so the smartest thing she
• 51:35
  ever said to herself is when Kayla said maybe I should go see
• 51:39
  a therapist. That seems as if it might be
• 51:42
  money better spent. And I'm like, yeah, girl, yeah.
• 51:45
  And then she doesn't. Go to therapy.
• 51:47
  I know. Well, she attempted to find the
• 51:49
  office, so that's nice. It's called Google though.
• 51:51
  Love. She could have had any other
• 51:53
  therapist. But it's called.
• 51:55
  Google someone close by. Yeah, it's called Go to the
• 51:58
  Yellow Pages. This therapist near me.
• 52:01
  Yeah, it's that simple. There's a map that comes.
• 52:03
  Up with little dots. Choose Eddie's therapist.
• 52:07
  Why would you trust Eddie anyway?
• 52:09
  I. Know they arranged the seance to
• 52:13
  be later on when it's quote UN quote, the right timing, yadda
• 52:16
  yar. Which is convenient for us as
• 52:17
  book readers because then they just go back to fucking once
• 52:20
  they reestablish. But they didn't really.
• 52:23
  Reestablish anything? She's rocked back up at his
• 52:25
  house, right? Yeah, I think they're still.
• 52:27
  Kind of on the break, though, because he was like, you need
• 52:30
  clarity. Ready first.
• 52:32
  But he just wanted her to take the ring off.
• 52:33
  Yeah, but he wasn't man enough to say that, yeah.
• 52:37
  Just man up, Aiden. It's not that hard.
• 52:38
  Or at least tell me why you're wearing it.
• 52:40
  Yeah, that. At the bare minimum, even Aiden
• 52:42
  deserves that, Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Like he's investing his own time and feelings into this, yeah,
• 52:48
  whole life. He's putting his whole bodusi
• 52:51
  into this. He's putting his whole Dick into
• 52:53
  your ass. Like, at least let him know.
• 52:57
  I mean you want this to. Be long term.
• 52:59
  And you're not even telling him your husband's dead.
• 53:01
  I know, like make it make sense, girl.
• 53:05
  So she's getting. Quanted to.
• 53:06
  The shit house. I love it.
• 53:09
  I'm just like. It's fine.
• 53:10
  We'll just be passing it. At this point, it doesn't
• 53:12
  matter. She's getting quanted to the
• 53:14
  shit house. Yep, her doorbell's.
• 53:16
  Going on and on. She's still getting the letters.
• 53:20
  By Dante, longer one. So they're telling her she is a
• 53:23
  storm because there is a storm outside.
• 53:24
  You know, why is she responding? You know what I mean?
• 53:28
  Like, he has to be responding to something because he keeps
• 53:30
  responding with stuff back. Yeah.
• 53:33
  So there is a dialogue happening.
• 53:34
  Just sell your house and move. Why am I talking about a sex
• 53:38
  scene again? So maybe this is when they were
• 53:40
  hooking back up. Yeah, so there was one point she
• 53:42
  was running around the house and then it literally says grabbing
• 53:46
  me by the scruff of my neck. He pulls me back against his
• 53:48
  body and wraps an iron arm around my ribs, since when the
• 53:52
  human beings have a scruff of the neck, she is a bunning.
• 53:57
  She never said she. Hairy And then they were.
• 54:01
  Ass. Fucking again.
• 54:01
  Right on some couch. Sorry to bring all this back up
• 54:06
  okay. So afterwards, she still had her
• 54:08
  ass in the air. What are you doing?
• 54:12
  No prep. No.
• 54:13
  Prep So who knows what's oozing out?
• 54:15
  Airing her ass out at that point.
• 54:18
  I mean, do you need to? She did, apparently traumatizing
• 54:22
  this is. Traumatizing.
• 54:24
  This is why she needs to air it out.
• 54:25
  Maybe she's just she's got that. Drippy ass wap wap.
• 54:30
  She got that whack. Whack ass.
• 54:34
  She got that way. She.
• 54:37
  Got that moist. Asshole.
• 54:39
  She got that Betty Crocker asshole.
• 54:44
  I'm done. Okay.
• 54:44
  No more anal. No more anal.
• 54:46
  It's not that you're so quick on.
• 54:47
  That one. I'm just gonna cancel myself.
• 54:50
  Okay. I'm fine with it.
• 54:53
  Okay, trigger over. Anal.
• 54:56
  Over. No more anal.
• 54:59
  We're moving. Back to the paranoid.
• 55:01
  We're moving. We're moving forward.
• 55:03
  Forward. We'll probably move back.
• 55:06
  We're moving. Upward and onward on to better
• 55:09
  things. So Aiden keeps bringing up that
• 55:13
  he's scared of being hurt. Yeah, and she's.
• 55:15
  Still, at this point, she's still this is getting into a
• 55:18
  girl. She hadn't explained the wedding
• 55:20
  ring, and she just kind of keeps ignoring the topic.
• 55:23
  There's only so many ways you can keep ignoring it.
• 55:26
  Yeah, you know, it's just like, what?
• 55:28
  The thing about the writing about this book?
• 55:31
  Aiden's pretty much described to be the love of her life, which
• 55:36
  doesn't make sense. Like we know barely anything
• 55:38
  about Michael. At least give us more.
• 55:41
  For us to compare why he's so much better than Michael, you
• 55:44
  know what I mean? We have nothing on Michael.
• 55:46
  We know that he has schizophrenia and we don't even
• 55:49
  know that by then. Yeah, we don't know.
• 55:51
  We know the bare minimum. We don't know that.
• 55:53
  Yet all we know is he's a bit of a Dick.
• 55:55
  Yeah, he's bit rude. And so if if Aiden's the love of
• 55:59
  her life, like you've got to tell us why, there's nothing.
• 56:03
  And she's moving on from her full marriage.
• 56:06
  So you just assume when you have this bare minimum information,
• 56:10
  you assume that that marriage meant something to her, Right.
• 56:12
  Because you just assume. Yeah, so.
• 56:15
  So this guy is supposed to be important.
• 56:18
  She's like, ooh, Aiden, like love with him.
• 56:20
  Never thought I'd ever be in love with someone again, yada
• 56:22
  yada. And he'll pop into every scene
• 56:26
  and the the most substance he ever says is something like, Oh
• 56:31
  my God, then fuck. I can bang my little Bunny right
• 56:33
  in the Boo hole. That's all he's bringing to the.
• 56:36
  And you're like, that's the love of your life, girl, yeah.
• 56:40
  Hit it with your car. That's the man.
• 56:42
  You chose oh God. It's giving 15 year old energy.
• 56:48
  That's. Honestly, if you.
• 56:50
  Think about you take away all the sex scenes.
• 56:54
  All that explicit talk, it's giving 12 year old reading
• 56:59
  level, it's giving 13. Year old virgin who doesn't know
• 57:03
  how sex works? No.
• 57:05
  And they're trying to sext. Like that's what the sex scenes
• 57:07
  were like. Reminds.
• 57:09
  There's a bit in there where he she goes, Aiden's not sexing me
• 57:13
  up anymore or something, or he's still sexing me up.
• 57:16
  And that was just as traumatic as the licking and the nipple
• 57:20
  milk. The clip Is this author OK?
• 57:24
  Have they had sex? Lately, do we need to?
• 57:26
  Read a different book by them to compare maybe.
• 57:29
  Do they need to know? About the birds and the bees,
• 57:32
  like are we going back there is this?
• 57:35
  Do they need an anatomy book? Do they need sex Ed?
• 57:41
  That's sort of one of the most fucked up things we could say
• 57:43
  about someone who's trying to write sexy books.
• 57:46
  And they Do they need some sand? No.
• 57:48
  But it's giving lack of education.
• 57:52
  There's a whole TV. Called sex education that does a
• 57:55
  little bit more, but there is a bit.
• 57:58
  I'll see if I can find it because it literally send me.
• 58:03
  This whole book is sending us into.
• 58:04
  Orbit every 5 minutes she goes. He flexes his hip when he says
• 58:10
  here, letting me know he's not done sexing me up yet.
• 58:13
  Isn't that a song I wanna sex? You up maybe?
• 58:17
  That's where she's. Getting this from.
• 58:21
  So can I just say for someone who's supposed to be giving soul
• 58:24
  mate energy? It's not enough.
• 58:27
  It's just not enough. I'm done.
• 58:30
  It's just it's. Just this is your soul mate off.
• 58:42
  But then look on the other. Hand They're taking each other
• 58:46
  off the dating scene. It's fine.
• 58:49
  It's a win win for. Someone oh, when is a win?
• 58:53
  Just. Not for them.
• 58:54
  It's like a double negative. It's just fine, OK, So we we
• 59:00
  we're getting towards the end we are we're getting.
• 59:03
  Towards the paranormal and why it was so annoying.
• 59:07
  Dude, this is when the book was like fully had changed genres.
• 59:11
  Yeah, and This is why lots of people got upset about it later.
• 59:15
  I, for one, don't give a fuck because you take me on all the
• 59:18
  twists. I'm gonna give a fuck where we
• 59:19
  end up. Yeah, that's your choice As the
• 59:21
  other. That's wrong to me.
• 59:23
  I mean, it was. A twisty twist, yeah.
• 59:26
  It did take me off guard, yeah. But that's what I like.
• 59:29
  Because one thing that I'll appreciate about this book is it
• 59:32
  didn't drop fun. There was no consistency.
• 59:35
  There was no knowing a single thing.
• 59:38
  I was confused from day one. And I never stopped being.
• 59:42
  Yeah, I know. That's what I.
• 59:44
  Liked. About it because other times,
• 59:46
  and I don't understand this. Someone please explain it to me.
• 59:48
  If this is what you need to do, explain why.
• 59:50
  Why would you look up a book to make sure something's happily
• 59:54
  ever after? First, you're.
• 59:57
  Looking at me like this is exactly what I do, but.
• 1:00:00
  Why is? Trying to spoil it because,
• 1:00:02
  like, why do you need to know the ending before you even
• 1:00:05
  commit to the book? Isn't the point of a book to not
• 1:00:08
  know the fucking ending? Okay.
• 1:00:09
  Well, I never look up the. Ending, but I need to know the
• 1:00:12
  general web if it's going to be good enough for my expectations.
• 1:00:17
  But some people said that they were so upset that the author
• 1:00:20
  didn't confirm when they put the book out.
• 1:00:23
  If it was a happily ever after, no, I don't care.
• 1:00:26
  Every romance, somehow, is a happily ever after.
• 1:00:31
  Like have. You found a book.
• 1:00:33
  That is not because we've been looking for one where they just
• 1:00:36
  stay apart forever and it has not happened.
• 1:00:39
  That's my dream. That's my.
• 1:00:40
  Favorite. No, that's what I mean.
• 1:00:41
  When you pick up a romance, yeah, well, that's the genre.
• 1:00:44
  Isn't it? There's some level of happily
• 1:00:46
  ever after. I guess I get labeling it wrong.
• 1:00:50
  It was definitely labeled wrong I.
• 1:00:53
  Get. That but.
• 1:00:54
  Also, who cares? Yeah, it was not in the.
• 1:00:58
  Right category, no, it was not. If the categories were not
• 1:01:01
  category, but honestly, what is in this book, There's a lot.
• 1:01:05
  It's. Very.
• 1:01:06
  Fitting to have. It in the wrong category.
• 1:01:13
  That's why I've. Never been so.
• 1:01:15
  Confused by a book? I have like not finished a book
• 1:01:18
  before because it's so annoying. But I've never I if we didn't do
• 1:01:22
  it for the podcast, I would not finish it because I did not know
• 1:01:25
  what the fuck was going on and that annoys me.
• 1:01:30
  Paranormal. Keep trying to get there.
• 1:01:32
  And we keep going. Down.
• 1:01:33
  We're getting somewhere, I swear to God.
• 1:01:36
  It's just hard like this is. Just as.
• 1:01:39
  As a book, so. Don't you love how he had the
• 1:01:42
  typical book boyfriend? He smelt like cedar Musk and
• 1:01:47
  hood smoke. Okay.
• 1:01:49
  Well, I never seem to see him outside.
• 1:01:53
  I know he's. Not chopping any.
• 1:01:55
  No. He seems like an indoor.
• 1:01:56
  Girly he is an indoor. Girly he He's on the roof.
• 1:02:00
  Girly I was 90. 2% of the book, right?
• 1:02:04
  And things are still not making sense, but anyway.
• 1:02:07
  If I had to read Fight Club one more time, I was going to
• 1:02:10
  fucking eat my Kindle. I was.
• 1:02:12
  Going to be done, I'm. Like I've come too far to.
• 1:02:16
  Hear this throwback? Every time I thought we were
• 1:02:19
  getting past it. And why there was no?
• 1:02:23
  Fight Club. Energy No what?
• 1:02:26
  No. OK.
• 1:02:27
  I've got a question for you. SO.
• 1:02:30
  New Year's is. Coming up is your ideal way to
• 1:02:32
  spend New Year's in some fucking dinghy.
• 1:02:36
  On some fucking little like so that you can fuck and listen
• 1:02:40
  Fireworks, to be fair, they don't make.
• 1:02:43
  Any sense as people I love how? He's like.
• 1:02:47
  Have you heard of the refractory period?
• 1:02:48
  And she's like, yes. And he's like, well, my Dick
• 1:02:52
  hasn't. And then she was about to fuck
• 1:02:54
  him. And then he's like, no, hold
• 1:02:55
  that for actually, we're going to go do this in a fucking boat.
• 1:03:00
  Mosquitoes. Why bring it up then?
• 1:03:02
  I don't talk about the erection. If we're not fucking naughty,
• 1:03:07
  naughty. We don't ignore it if it's just
• 1:03:09
  in the. I know so.
• 1:03:11
  The lead up to? New Year's is the seance, the
• 1:03:15
  crazy shit going on in the house, the little kid running
• 1:03:19
  around, the birds dying. There was a lot of dead birds.
• 1:03:23
  None of it ever made sense. None of it ever.
• 1:03:25
  And none of. It and then.
• 1:03:27
  This made creepy child. Running around, This creepy
• 1:03:30
  child running around. Just trying all of his life.
• 1:03:32
  Literally. Though that queen kept showing.
• 1:03:35
  Up in places they did the seance.
• 1:03:38
  It was scary. It was traumatic for her.
• 1:03:41
  Don't ask me how she. Did it in her husband's.
• 1:03:44
  Office, She took the ring off for the first.
• 1:03:47
  Time ever. And then it dropped from the
• 1:03:48
  ceiling and she had a panic attack.
• 1:03:51
  And then she was like. Dating problem solved.
• 1:03:53
  Dating problem? The rings off and then, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  They. Were like we can't work out who
• 1:03:58
  this ghost is and is wanting her and then a life jacket just
• 1:04:01
  showed up on her. Right.
• 1:04:05
  And then she works it out. And then we're all confused.
• 1:04:09
  And working anything. Else would you like someone
• 1:04:11
  needs to hold my hand through this.
• 1:04:13
  I don't know what's going on so. Do we talk about what happened?
• 1:04:16
  Sure. Okay.
• 1:04:17
  So Michael is not dead. Shock.
• 1:04:21
  Horror. Shock.
• 1:04:22
  Kayla and Adina because Michael murdered them both.
• 1:04:27
  So then they go. A little bit back in time,
• 1:04:29
  because obviously we need to understand what's been going on
• 1:04:31
  for these full months, yeah, because all we've been reading
• 1:04:34
  about. Is fucking Did that fucking
• 1:04:36
  happen? It was in the past.
• 1:04:37
  No all of. That book was in the Now they're
• 1:04:41
  on a different plane, I'm assuming because while no wonder
• 1:04:45
  why they. Didn't need Lube true.
• 1:04:47
  It's all starting to make sense. It's all starting to make sense.
• 1:04:50
  So. That little boy lived in the
• 1:04:52
  house, so someone bought it a month after she died.
• 1:04:56
  And there was a family living in the house, so all that shit
• 1:04:59
  moving around was her. She was.
• 1:05:02
  Haunting the house. And she was haunting them.
• 1:05:04
  To the sheer house. And this little boy was just
• 1:05:06
  trying to live with his life, and she kept calling.
• 1:05:08
  Him like full creepy kid, Yeah, she kept pointing at.
• 1:05:11
  He kept seeing her. And then what was the man behind
• 1:05:13
  the? Tree Then Pretty much the man
• 1:05:15
  behind the tree was Michael, so. When Michael murdered them, so
• 1:05:20
  he was off his medication. Her and Aiden were living their
• 1:05:25
  best lives. Actually, the only substance
• 1:05:27
  they have as a character together, as in romantic, was
• 1:05:31
  when they go back and look at them before they died.
• 1:05:35
  That's the only time they have any substance of cutesy
• 1:05:38
  relationship. But I'm confused about the.
• 1:05:40
  Timeline then that's where I got confused.
• 1:05:43
  OK, so the whole first. Part of the book is her in
• 1:05:47
  denial, Yeah. That she's dead.
• 1:05:49
  She doesn't know she's dead. But then they met.
• 1:05:51
  As ghosts, so they were. Together before they were dead,
• 1:05:56
  right? And then when they were going,
• 1:05:58
  when that dingy bit on New Year's was before they died.
• 1:06:01
  That's the night they died. So they went out there.
• 1:06:04
  Michael thought that. Aiden was working for the CIA,
• 1:06:08
  stealing his math equations, blah blah blah, shot him in the
• 1:06:11
  head, and then he drowned Kayla. So all these.
• 1:06:14
  People they were. Meeting were ghosts.
• 1:06:17
  Eddie was dead. Eddie was about dead 100 years
• 1:06:20
  ago, right? And then it was just her coming
• 1:06:24
  to terms with the fact that she died.
• 1:06:26
  Aiden was already aware and because.
• 1:06:29
  Claire kind of said it. She was like, if you can't tell
• 1:06:32
  them you're dead, they're dead because they'll go in denial.
• 1:06:35
  They've got to work it throughout for himself.
• 1:06:36
  So Aiden was trying to get her to work it out, take off the
• 1:06:39
  ring, work out that her husband was abusive, and kill her.
• 1:06:42
  It's just that's why it's confusing because it literally
• 1:06:46
  nothing leads up to it. I know.
• 1:06:49
  But it's still sad. Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  But then I. Think I don't understand about
• 1:06:54
  them being dead is Jake and Deb. Yeah, Aiden's best friend.
• 1:06:58
  So are they dead too? And that that whole.
• 1:07:01
  Didn't make sense? No, because.
• 1:07:03
  The reason Eddie made sense was he was already dead.
• 1:07:06
  She pulled out her old card and then the psychic was seeing her
• 1:07:10
  because she was a ghost. But then Jake and Deb, are they
• 1:07:14
  also dead? Yeah.
• 1:07:15
  When did they? Not been there in denial and
• 1:07:17
  then they hadn't come to terms with it.
• 1:07:19
  Yeah, I don't know. That's the only.
• 1:07:21
  Part I can, That's what I was. I thought like some.
• 1:07:23
  Bits were real life and then some bits were not.
• 1:07:26
  I know how. When he killed them, he was
• 1:07:28
  wearing the hat and the coat. So I'm assuming.
• 1:07:32
  It was her memory trying to tell her that it was someone had
• 1:07:36
  killed. And it was just yeah.
• 1:07:39
  But OK, so just imagine you're about to die, so you're Aiden.
• 1:07:43
  He's kind of distracting him away from Kayla so that he's
• 1:07:47
  going to get shot and. She's on.
• 1:07:49
  And then the last thing he says to her though, is.
• 1:07:52
  I love you, Bunny. I love you until the end of
• 1:07:54
  time. It's like, bro, you just fucking
• 1:07:56
  confess that you guys love each other.
• 1:07:58
  I know he's gonna. Shoot her.
• 1:07:59
  Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, bro, why did you even
• 1:08:02
  bother? Why did you bother pretending?
• 1:08:03
  And is that really worth it saying I?
• 1:08:05
  Love you, Bunny. She knows.
• 1:08:07
  I think she. Yeah, like shut up.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah, and then the. Weird bit at the.
• 1:08:12
  End you know how. It was implied that Michael was
• 1:08:15
  a shitty guy and she had a suspicion that he was cheating
• 1:08:18
  on her, but it was very vague. So in the end, the psychiatrist
• 1:08:23
  or whatever is interviewing Michael in the prison prison.
• 1:08:28
  Because he's pending charges or. And he's interviewing him, the
• 1:08:32
  psychiatrist or whatever. It's like, So what about this
• 1:08:35
  affair you were having with Karen or Sharon?
• 1:08:38
  And I was just like. The fact that Michael was
• 1:08:41
  cheating with the Casa or Shazza just took me.
• 1:08:45
  Out of. Every other.
• 1:08:46
  Name So. Kayla realized that she's dead.
• 1:08:49
  Her and Aiden are reunited. Happy family.
• 1:08:52
  Ooh, yay. So she's compelled.
• 1:08:54
  She's feeling like she's moving into the light, so she's got
• 1:08:56
  this like. And then Aiden's like, now fuck
• 1:08:58
  that detour. We're going to go fuck.
• 1:09:01
  This guy over, right? So they go swoop into jail.
• 1:09:06
  They visit him all. What's that Christmas movie like
• 1:09:09
  The 12 Nights Before Christmas? And it's giving me like Donald
• 1:09:14
  Duck and so they swoop into fucking jail.
• 1:09:17
  What do they say to this man? Boo?
• 1:09:22
  To be. Multiple times they're saying
• 1:09:24
  Boo over and over. To be fair, if I was going.
• 1:09:27
  To fuck someone up, I'd probably sit there and say Boo too.
• 1:09:29
  Could you imagine? They're like, they're just
• 1:09:31
  saying Boo to me. You sound more crazy.
• 1:09:34
  It's giving. Toddler.
• 1:09:35
  I know it's. Giving toddler.
• 1:09:36
  But that's so fucking funny to me, because that's.
• 1:09:39
  Something I would do. I'd be like Boo bitch.
• 1:09:42
  But it also, it's just like, why are you trying to end it so
• 1:09:44
  serious? Because you know how they had
• 1:09:45
  those little, those bits that were supposed to be deep and
• 1:09:47
  meaningful like death is when? Your memory.
• 1:09:50
  And and to mingle in me and then they're like, boom, and I'm like
• 1:09:54
  such high. Like is this book trying
• 1:09:57
  serious? Are they literally fucking with
• 1:10:00
  us? I think she must have been so.
• 1:10:05
  That's the last thing you're going to.
• 1:10:06
  Say to anybody I would and then you're going to just peace out
• 1:10:10
  and then could you imagine you could just.
• 1:10:11
  Go into his jail cell all the time and just but I thought they
• 1:10:14
  were going to move on from. There, that was their revenge.
• 1:10:17
  I think that they just. Live not in denial?
• 1:10:20
  I don't know. Okay.
• 1:10:22
  Well, I have no idea my idea. Was that they?
• 1:10:24
  Then were like, oh, we're going to live in this funny lion
• 1:10:28
  dynamic forever. Like, just eternally.
• 1:10:31
  Anal fucking into the Sorry I mentioned it again.
• 1:10:34
  It's just anal fucking into the stratosphere and that's it.
• 1:10:37
  Like, cool. I don't know how redundant when
• 1:10:40
  all of these people's. Yep.
• 1:10:42
  Absolutely meant nothing. Also the letters.
• 1:10:47
  The letters also meant nothing. Because it was just an anagram
• 1:10:50
  for Aiden, and Aiden was sending letters, this man had too much
• 1:10:53
  free time, too much leaving in his.
• 1:10:57
  Timeline did he die of? A roofer?
• 1:10:59
  Or did he just magically cook that up to get into a house?
• 1:11:02
  I don't know. That's what I'm confused.
• 1:11:05
  About did they? Meet when they were alive, Or
• 1:11:07
  did they meet when they were dead?
• 1:11:08
  They had to have met when they were alive because they met them
• 1:11:10
  when they were alive. They were together and they
• 1:11:12
  died. Again.
• 1:11:13
  Someone explained this to me. I feel like I could and I.
• 1:11:16
  Would just. No, I would explain it terribly
• 1:11:18
  and it doesn't matter. It doesn't.
• 1:11:20
  Matter anyway, because we're never going.
• 1:11:23
  To think about this book again was not about the destination.
• 1:11:26
  It was about the journey. The journey.
• 1:11:28
  Was. Australia to fucking Antarctica
• 1:11:32
  to Canada, like all over the place.
• 1:11:34
  It was like imagine. You're in Lord of the Rings and
• 1:11:36
  you do the entire trip, and then you get somewhere and it's just
• 1:11:39
  like a little fucking pothole in the ground.
• 1:11:43
  Like that's more. And it's like when.
• 1:11:46
  You watch Game of Thrones and they literally are somehow in
• 1:11:50
  every destination at once, right?
• 1:11:52
  But then nothing. Happens again.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:11:56
  Like I don't know what. This book was trying to serve
• 1:11:59
  not consistency. And I felt unsatisfied.
• 1:12:03
  I felt bewildered. I felt confusing.
• 1:12:09
  So what should we rate this out of?
• 1:12:12
  Out of it. Clitty milk no I.
• 1:12:16
  Knew you were. Going to say it, I was trying to
• 1:12:19
  start myself from saying it clitty.
• 1:12:22
  Milk. Milky clitties.
• 1:12:25
  Okay, how many Milky clitties out of five?
• 1:12:29
  What? Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  Dude, like, I gave it 2 and that's being generous.
• 1:12:34
  I don't. Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:12:35
  Sure, if a two is for me. I don't even know if it's true.
• 1:12:38
  I don't know what. Did I get 2 from?
• 1:12:40
  Because it wasn't what? It wasn't character development.
• 1:12:44
  It was not sex scenes. It was not banter.
• 1:12:47
  It was not. It was not anything.
• 1:12:50
  It was look, I get the romance for the twistiness.
• 1:12:52
  That's it. Yeah.
• 1:12:54
  For the surprise, for the strong factor.
• 1:12:58
  And the quotes were funny. I'm supposed to be.
• 1:13:03
  I read this book pretty. Quickly considering, I had to
• 1:13:05
  put it down, so it was. Digestible.
• 1:13:08
  I feel like it's rewilded. By brain, but not in a good way
• 1:13:12
  same. Like, I feel like the richest
• 1:13:14
  scale of anxiety has just gone up.
• 1:13:18
  Like if I had to relive. This in a couple of months with
• 1:13:20
  a different book. I'm going to be so traumatized.
• 1:13:22
  Dude, I didn't. Know it would be so close to
• 1:13:24
  haunting out alone. In a way.
• 1:13:26
  Like it wasn't. It was.
• 1:13:27
  But it wasn't. It was and it wasn't.
• 1:13:30
  At least you're. Like at least dot dot dot, I
• 1:13:39
  don't know, I hope. People don't come for us, but
• 1:13:41
  that's fine. Just come for us anyway.
• 1:13:43
  It's okay. It's okay.
• 1:13:45
  We're all we're all safe. You know what I get.
• 1:13:47
  Why? People like it, but yeah.
• 1:13:52
  No, I. Think it's the shock value?
• 1:13:54
  Because whenever I see Tik Toks about it, they're like, oh, that
• 1:13:57
  twist. It was shocking.
• 1:13:58
  And that's all that people can say, yeah, and I'm in a couple
• 1:14:01
  of. Book form rooms.
• 1:14:02
  And that's all I've seen about it.
• 1:14:04
  When we read Dun and Dusty, I think about them right.
• 1:14:06
  Dun and Dusty is it done? And Dusty, done and dusted.
• 1:14:09
  Done and dusted. Dusted and we should rename it.
• 1:14:15
  I like. I think about the other
• 1:14:18
  characters and I'm like, yeah, I.
• 1:14:19
  Would read that I want to be dusty and you can be.
• 1:14:23
  Are you sure you want to be dusty?
• 1:14:24
  Yes, the. Crusty and dusty.
• 1:14:27
  I want to be the grumpy and you can be the.
• 1:14:30
  Sunshine. I've got no sun to shine, OK?
• 1:14:33
  You. Can be.
• 1:14:35
  You can be. Done with me and I'll.
• 1:14:37
  Just be dusty. Crusty.
• 1:14:39
  I will come up with a better. Book than this at least.
• 1:14:42
  I. Like I think about the side
• 1:14:44
  characters. And I go, yeah, I read a book
• 1:14:46
  about them, but I would never read any books in this universe.
• 1:14:50
  There's not. Enough side.
• 1:14:52
  Practice to redeem this. There's just nobody.
• 1:14:56
  Oh shit. We just ripped this one.
• 1:14:58
  A new asshole without Lube. So look.
• 1:15:02
  I can't believe I gave it. Too, I don't know what kind of
• 1:15:04
  thing, what state in mind I was. Would I rate that?
• 1:15:10
  Because I'll usually rate. Lower than you make my single
• 1:15:12
  time, Yeah, and I'm usually. Not as like I'm not judging,
• 1:15:16
  yes. What happened?
• 1:15:18
  We flip. I think it was because.
• 1:15:22
  It was just not written well. OK, let's just about to say
• 1:15:26
  there will be a steaming. Turn on a piece of paper and
• 1:15:29
  you'll say it wasn't written. Bad.
• 1:15:32
  There's nothing wrong with this if this.
• 1:15:37
  It was like the first book this author ever wrote.
• 1:15:39
  I'd be like, OK, yeah, fair, like, we're learning, We're
• 1:15:42
  living, we're starting, we're starting somewhere.
• 1:15:45
  But say they wrote like, 10 other books before.
• 1:15:47
  This might be like, absolutely not.
• 1:15:49
  Not your calling. Dude, they're making more.
• 1:15:54
  Bank than we are, yeah, 100%. Honestly, but.
• 1:16:00
  No, but get away that it contains 2020.
• 1:16:05
  Pre-ordered out being very judgmental for.
• 1:16:12
  Someone who hasn't written a book and I need a chill.
• 1:16:16
  I need. To have it.
• 1:16:18
  Let them have it I need to bring.
• 1:16:20
  Myself back? Down because we haven't read a
• 1:16:22
  book in a little. Bit we're just being especially
• 1:16:24
  harsh, which is fine, it's right but for.
• 1:16:28
  Entertainment value. It is amazing.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah, we. We never shut up.
• 1:16:33
  We've been recording for like 10 hours, so that's why they're
• 1:16:39
  going to do yeah. If you have a small book club
• 1:16:42
  with your friends, just pick this one up because at least
• 1:16:45
  you'll have shit to be upset about.
• 1:16:46
  We're so mad about. But we like this kind of shit
• 1:16:49
  because it's our only way. Yeah, like if.
• 1:16:52
  This was just the typical romance.
• 1:16:56
  We would have been angry anyway, so we never actually happy.
• 1:16:59
  I'm yeah. So it's fine, it's fine.
• 1:17:01
  Is that enough? We've ripped enough, asshole.
• 1:17:03
  Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I'm still 11.
• 1:17:07
  Girl you clearly. Milky.
• 1:17:09
  That's fine. I actually want to adjust mine
• 1:17:12
  to one, but anyway, it's fine. Anything else to add?
• 1:17:15
  We don't so. And we're done, done and.
• 1:17:18
  Dusty Coming. 2026 Mark your calendars, 2026 Yeah, I want to.
• 1:17:23
  Give us some time. 20-30 then I can barely write extensions.
• 1:17:30
  Are you kidding? OK.
• 1:17:31
  The ADHD is ADHD ING today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:34
  Who cares? The world's gonna be.
• 1:17:37
  The climate. Changing the climate, she may
• 1:17:40
  change the. Economy is crashing.
• 1:17:43
  No one will have any money to. Buy our book by the time it's
• 1:17:47
  so. That's.
• 1:17:48
  It thanks for joining us on Lose the Plot with Colour and Emily.
• 1:17:52
  Don't forget to rate us five stars and subscribe if you
• 1:17:54
  enjoyed Slide into our DMS on TikTok or Instagram Lose The Pod
• 1:17:59
  podcast.