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FILM REAL | Nessa's November Halloween Spectacular · The Recess Bell

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Speaker 1: This production is brought to you by the Recess Bell
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Speaker 1: Oh right, everybody, this is film Reel right here on
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Speaker 1: the Recess Bell Network. My name is Justin Greenberg, and
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by the lovely Nessa. How are you?
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Speaker 2: How are you? Guys? Finally I get to be on
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Speaker 2: an episode with the spectacular Justice.
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Speaker 1: Wow, and this is It's perfect that we're recording our
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Speaker 1: Halloween special on November. What is it the second second?
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Speaker 1: I mean when I think of Halloween and horror movies,
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Speaker 1: it's always November, right, So we did a fantastic job
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Speaker 1: getting this here. But we're gonna have some fun today.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about our favorite horror movies, what
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Speaker 1: got us into horror, best icons in the history of
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Speaker 1: the genre, and then we're gonna do a little recap
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Speaker 1: of the Evil Dead series. But I don't even know
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Speaker 1: anything about you, Nessa, because this is my first time
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Speaker 1: meeting you. And you know what, what what is your story?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Get like a quick, like three minute synopsis of you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So again, my name is Ernessa, but
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Speaker 2: you know you guys can call me Nasa. How I'm
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Speaker 2: even here to begin with is because I do the
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Speaker 2: album reviews on our turntables section of the Recess Bell.
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Speaker 2: I started doing that by actually reconnecting with our greatest
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Speaker 2: man ever, Josh the Leader. The Leader the Man, so
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Speaker 2: I had went to high school with him. We did
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Speaker 2: some reconnecting and I ended up doing some album reviews
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Speaker 2: for the website. There'll definitely be a new one coming
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Speaker 2: up soon on Tyler the Creator's album Chromacopeia. Uh. And
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Speaker 2: I definitely have a lot of stuff to talk about
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Speaker 2: like with that, especially because I find an annoy but
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Speaker 2: nonetheless in terms of just knowing at me, the reason
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Speaker 2: why I'm even honest episode is because I'm a huge,
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Speaker 2: huge horror fan. So that's definitely something that you guys
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Speaker 2: should should know about me, big horror fan for a
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Speaker 2: long time, like since I was young. So there's that
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Speaker 2: just in general, like about me and enjoying like I
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Speaker 2: enjoy to go out with like friends, family.
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Speaker 1: Like long walks on the beach.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, even that, there's nothing about like just being next
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Speaker 2: to the water, just seeing the feeling the air just
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Speaker 2: just hit your face, the sand in like every possible place.
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Speaker 1: It's the best. And and you know, we're recording on
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Speaker 1: Long Island and we have had this random surge of
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Speaker 1: warm weather in the last like two weeks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually been throwing me off. I kind of
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Speaker 2: hate it. I always was like a transition.
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Speaker 1: Halloween was like eighty degrees. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: I've been going to Jones Beach as much as possible.
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Speaker 1: I lived there there. Okay, that's my second home is
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Speaker 1: Jones Beach. But you mentioned music that's like your big thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure, So let's let's.
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Speaker 1: You know, we like to have a d d on
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Speaker 1: on the show, and we love it here, so we're
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Speaker 1: just gonna like deviate from from Eventually we'll get to
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Speaker 1: the horror section. Yeah. Top musicians of all time? Oh man,
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Speaker 1: just like you know a few that come to mind.
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Speaker 2: I think maybe my favorite like rappers or like maybe
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Speaker 2: like top three, probably like nas Kanye West. Uh, it's
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Speaker 2: not really like a favorite. Uh. Kanye West is my
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Speaker 2: favorite for sure. But the next person I'm about to
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Speaker 2: say it was jay Z. I don't think he's like
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Speaker 2: really a favorite of mine, but I do think like
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Speaker 2: what he did for the game of rap is very significant,
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Speaker 2: so I will mention him as like probably like the
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Speaker 2: top three is.
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Speaker 1: Rap, that's your genre that you focus on.
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Speaker 2: I think rap is like rap is definitely like one
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Speaker 2: of my favorite genres. I listened to a lot of
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Speaker 2: different genres. Actually, I'm very into you know, like rap,
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Speaker 2: hip hop, R and b afrobeats like even I'm actually
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Speaker 2: you know, like I'm I come from a Caribbean background.
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Speaker 2: I'm Haitian, so I'm definitely into Haitian music like my culture. Also,
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Speaker 2: just I'm a big fan of like dance, hall of
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Speaker 2: Reggae and like things like that too. So definitely listen
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Speaker 2: to a lot of different music. You know, I got
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Speaker 2: some Emao music going on. You know, I gotta cry sometimes. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you know we all night will be the night over again,
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Speaker 2: over again.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this. I'm gonna blow your mind. My name
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Speaker 1: is Justin. Then I'm here to say we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: horror on film real today.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah that's Do you like those ad libs?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Like the flavor flavor of exactly.
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Speaker 2: That's what I have to do.
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Speaker 1: And music is so important when it comes to movies.
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Speaker 2: Actually, oh for sure. The soundtracks just make the movie
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Speaker 2: feel more like I don't even know, like you feel
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Speaker 2: more involved for some reason. It just makes it. It
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Speaker 2: makes a difference for sure.
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Speaker 1: If you take a movie like Jaws and you don't
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Speaker 1: have the iconic music to go along with it, you're
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Speaker 1: not gonna be in terror. You're not gonna feel that suspense.
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Speaker 1: And then there's actual like soundtrack music when they when they,
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Speaker 1: you know, like Gardens of the Galaxy in recent years
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Speaker 1: has done a great job of getting these seventies you know,
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Speaker 1: pop hits and implementing it into the story. Music can
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Speaker 1: change the way a movie is.
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Speaker 2: It could change the entire scene and the vibe of it.
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Speaker 1: I get goose bumps from from certain musical cues. Now
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Speaker 1: I love the movie feel to dreams, and if it
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Speaker 1: doesn't have James Horner's score behind it, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 1: feel that emotion. I'm not gonna get those goosebumps. Hey Dad,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have catch. I'd like that. That's the That's
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Speaker 1: the beauty of music. So why don't we? When don't we? Segue?
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Speaker 1: Now back to the the movie talk? So how did
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Speaker 1: you initially get into horror? I'll briefly tell my quick
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Speaker 1: story as to like the the origins of horror, and
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Speaker 1: I think this is probably for a lot of kids.
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Speaker 1: They probably were introduced to it from cartoons, whether it's
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Speaker 1: something like Scooby Doo, whether it's something like a Simpson's
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Speaker 1: Treehouse of Horror episode. A lot of Nickelodeon shows had
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Speaker 1: horror based even like parodies of things like Frankenstein and Dracula,
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Speaker 1: and you really didn't watch those movies per se, but
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Speaker 1: you knew the characters because of cartoons. So for me,
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Speaker 1: I think shows like there was a Ghostbuster's cartoon, there
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Speaker 1: was a Beagle Juice cartoon, stuff like that was sort
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Speaker 1: of the the building blocks into my eventual watching the
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Speaker 1: actual movies that these properties are based on. But I
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Speaker 1: think cartoons from me, and I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people were that first. You know, foray into into horror.
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Speaker 2: Line that is such a beautiful like story of just
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Speaker 2: how horror basically like starts, especially with like with children,
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Speaker 2: and it always starts in what you're watching, right. So
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Speaker 2: with that being said, my my like how I got
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Speaker 2: into horror definitely wasn't I don't think it was the
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Speaker 2: best way because I went straight into it. Oh, I
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Speaker 2: went straight into it. My mom and I watched horror
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Speaker 2: stuff like growing up, right, so we was watching stuff
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Speaker 2: like paranormal activity. I'm like seven, like watching this, I'm
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Speaker 2: watching paranormal activity movies. I'm watching like like different like
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Speaker 2: killer type of series. Like there's a show called Killer
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Speaker 2: Kids and it's literally just like little documentaries about like
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Speaker 2: kids that like Guilder Parents or like something crazy or
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Speaker 2: I'm watching like I survived, I watching shows like that
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Speaker 2: and just like anything that was on like those type
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Speaker 2: of networks. I mean, my mom was always watching, Like
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Speaker 2: I remember watching the old school like horror movies like
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Speaker 2: We Got Chucky, you know, Scream, Halloween, like all the
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Speaker 2: good stuff, the good classics, just a lot of movies
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Speaker 2: that came from the nineties and stuff like that. So
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Speaker 2: growing up, even when I played, because I was playing
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Speaker 2: video games too, So I was playing like scary shit
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Speaker 2: in the video games too. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I
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Speaker 2: literally don't know anyone else that was playing like Resident
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Speaker 2: Evil at seven, so I was doing that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even think about video games, but
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Speaker 1: they definitely are frightening, especially if you're playing them by
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Speaker 1: yourself in the dark at like oh u im playing
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Speaker 1: something like Doom as a kid, for me is definitely
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Speaker 1: something that sparked a lot of fear in my mind
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Speaker 1: and imagination. For sure. Doom for the sixty four Big Jaguar,
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Speaker 1: the best dome ever. Let's talk about some of those
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Speaker 1: classics you mentioned. You're like, oh, those old movies from
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Speaker 1: the nineties. I'm just the old man, I suppose, because
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Speaker 1: to me those are like my childhood classics. But I
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Speaker 1: guess you know, you're a bit younger than me. So
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Speaker 1: the nineties for me was a pivotal time for horror
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Speaker 1: movies because, for sure, the eighties was very schlocky, meaning
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Speaker 1: it was a lot of goofy stuff, a lot of sequels.
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Speaker 1: You know, there was like five Friday the Thirteenth and
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Speaker 1: a bunch of Nightmare on Elm Streets, and they really
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Speaker 1: became cheesy and corny. And in the early nineties in particular,
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of goofy stuff happening in the
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Speaker 1: horror landscape. Now every now and then you'd get a
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Speaker 1: Silence of the Lambs that would, you know, be an
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Speaker 1: Oscar caliber type of movie. But for the most part,
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Speaker 1: when you thought of nineties horror, it was actually a
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Speaker 1: lot of crappy stuff, stuff like the Leprechaun series, which
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Speaker 1: you know, is fun, goofy stuff, but it's not good
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Speaker 1: per se. But then in the mid nineties, the movie
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Speaker 1: Scream came out, and that sort of rejuvenated the horror
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Speaker 1: you know world, because that that sort of poked fun
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Speaker 1: at the genre itself. It was very breaking the fourth
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Speaker 1: wall sort of thing and pointing out all the flaws
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Speaker 1: and cliches with horror movies. And that's Wes Craven, who
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Speaker 1: also directed Nightmare on Elm Street. He's, you know, a
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Speaker 1: genius when it came to horror properties. But Scream is
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Speaker 1: definitely one that jumps to mind of like changing the game.
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Speaker 1: Because every time there's something that is popular, you're always
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Speaker 1: gonna have imitators, whether it's in music or television and
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Speaker 1: movies in particular. But there were so many cheap imitators
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Speaker 1: from Scream, stuff like I Know what you did last summer.
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Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of things that weren't up
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Speaker 1: to that caliber, but Scream, just to go back to
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Speaker 1: even Halloween, just because Halloween just passed, that was one
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Speaker 1: of those costumes. The ghost Face Killer is like such
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Speaker 1: an iconic costume, even so much so that in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four I opened my door for trick or treaters
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Speaker 1: and there was a ten year old boy with the
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Speaker 1: ghost Face mask and It actually made me so happy
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Speaker 1: because I remember being ten years old and seeing those
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Speaker 1: mess there and it stood the test of time. That's
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Speaker 1: a property that's almost thirty years old at this point,
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Speaker 1: and they're making another one. There's gonna be another Scream
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Speaker 1: coming out in a few weeks. So we got our
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Speaker 1: introduction of horror. We got a you know, an introduction
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Speaker 1: of nessa as well. So let's get into our favorite
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Speaker 1: horror icons of all time. And I'm not gonna put
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Speaker 1: ghost Face on there just because he changes. It's not
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Speaker 1: one ghost face, you know, it's.
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Speaker 2: A killer, multiple different ghosts exactly. If I'm not mistaken.
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Speaker 2: Scream six was the most recent one. Yes, yeah, So
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Speaker 2: with that most recent one, it's like there's like seventeen
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Speaker 2: go yeah in there. So it's like it's it's crazy,
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Speaker 2: like how it's I feel like it's becoming more jocular now. Actually,
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Speaker 2: I feel like it's becoming a little bit more funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a tongue in cheek at times.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: If I'm going with my my favorite horror icons of
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Speaker 1: all time, and I'm gonna put a wild card in there,
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Speaker 1: one that I think people might not actually think of
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Speaker 1: as a horror icon. So I'm gonna start off with
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Speaker 1: with Freddy Krueger.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to.
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Speaker 1: Freddy Krueger. To me, if I'm picking eighties icons, I
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Speaker 1: gotta go with Freddy because he was that first icon
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Speaker 1: to really bring comedy to the genre because it is
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Speaker 1: it is funny. I think the I think comedy and
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Speaker 1: horror go hand in hand because when you get scared
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Speaker 1: a lot of times you laugh right after it. Even
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Speaker 1: if you're going like a haunted house, you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: that scream and then that sort of laughter. So to
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Speaker 1: have Freddy Krueger do that in the movies, I love it,
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Speaker 1: and it's so creative. His kills are creative. He is
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Speaker 1: frightening when he needs to be. But to me, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'd rather have a character like Freddy Krueger where you
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Speaker 1: get to, you know, hear him talk because a lot
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Speaker 1: of these other killers they're they're silent yeaeople like Jason
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Speaker 1: Michael Myers. They're not They're not talking shit per se.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I love about Freddy Krueger. But if
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Speaker 1: I am gonna pick one of the silent killers, and
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Speaker 1: there's a few, there's leather Face, there's Michael Myers, but
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Freddy's counterpart, Jason Vorhees. Jason just
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Speaker 1: a really cool design. Yeah, and I mean the Hockey Mass,
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Speaker 1: the Giant Body. A lot of his movies are terrible,
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: The movie like like, they're terrible, but but they're fun.
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Speaker 1: They're good movies to have on in the background if
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Speaker 1: you're at like a Halloween party, having a few beers
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Speaker 1: and then you just look up every now and then
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Speaker 1: and watch Jason slice someone's head off. So that's I
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Speaker 1: love just that aspect of horror movies is the fact
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Speaker 1: that you don't have to take it so seriously. I
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Speaker 1: mean there are ones that you know, things like The
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Speaker 1: Exorcists that you know takes it the genre seriously, but
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Speaker 1: something like like you know, the Nightmare on elm Street movies,
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Speaker 1: the Friday the Thirteenth movies, they're more goofy, funny, friendly
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Speaker 1: sort of things. Here's my wild card though. This is
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Speaker 1: one I don't think a lot of people think of
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Speaker 1: it as a horror film, but to me, especially being
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Speaker 1: a four year old kid in theaters watching this, it
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Speaker 1: definitely scarred me. And that would be the dinosaurs from
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Speaker 1: Jurassic Park Jurassic Park. That's actually they scared the hell
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Speaker 1: out of me so much so to this day that
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Speaker 1: I still have recurring nightmares of dinosaurs. But I love it.
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Speaker 1: I love it. It's like I'm afraid of it, but
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Speaker 1: I can't help but watch it. And as a kid,
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Speaker 1: that movie, you know, was a juggernaut. It was the
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Speaker 1: highest grossing movie of all time at the time of
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Speaker 1: its release, and I had all the toys. I would
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Speaker 1: rewatch it on VHS all the time. But those scenes
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Speaker 1: of the t Rex attacking the little kids, the Veloci,
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Speaker 1: raptors in the kitchen attacking the little kids. And I
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Speaker 1: mentioned little kids because you know, I always they are
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Speaker 1: little kids in those scenes, and I think that's what
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Speaker 1: made it so frightening, because I was a little kid
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Speaker 1: at the time, and you put yourself in those kids' shoes.
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Speaker 1: Right in majority of horror movies, it's you know, like
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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old blonde chick. So it's like, how
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Speaker 1: does a little kid like relate to this? But if
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Speaker 1: the fact that Jurassic Park had kids in it, it
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Speaker 1: felt more threatening, especially when you're young, young in watching it.
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Speaker 1: So those would be my three the dinosaurs. Freddy Krueger
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Speaker 1: and Jason Vorhiz, do you have a horror icon that
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Speaker 1: stands out for you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I do have some. I know for sure. I
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Speaker 2: have to actually take this little TANGI real quick and
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Speaker 2: just mention that if I had the powers of SpongeBob
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Speaker 2: from that episode when he was just going into other
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Speaker 2: people's dreams, I would I would love to jump into
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Speaker 2: your dream just one time, just to see what these
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Speaker 2: dinosaurs are.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, to.
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Speaker 2: See what's going on and like just quickly just tap
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Speaker 2: out and be like just being there for like five
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Speaker 2: minutes and then just be like, all right, this actually
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Speaker 2: is like freaking terrifying. I do have to get out
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Speaker 2: of here. But in terms of my favorite horror icons,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we definitely already spoke about it a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Like I actually was a big fan of Michael Myers.
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Speaker 2: I think as of recently, the more recent Halloween movies
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Speaker 2: have been just getting definitely like really ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like getting bad now, and he's getting bad.
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Speaker 1: And he's supposed to be like eighty years old and
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Speaker 1: he's like fighting five hundred people and yeah he's.
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Speaker 2: Built like he's like thirty five and like No, it's
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Speaker 2: like it's it's so crazy. And even with how the
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Speaker 2: the town or like how do people react, Like I
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Speaker 2: feel like I don't know, like I know what horror
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Speaker 2: movies like, especially when it's about like someone being like
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Speaker 2: chased down, like they have to they kind of have
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Speaker 2: to do stupid shit, like they have to kind of
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Speaker 2: like fall or they have to like be like, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, I he's coming, like be slow, not really
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Speaker 2: like thinking. I know they're trying to imitate like what
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Speaker 2: it's like to be in like a fight or flight
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Speaker 2: type of feeling or like feel like that fear, but
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, like they the the way the people
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Speaker 2: are acting in the Michael when Michael Myers is around,
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Speaker 2: or just in general in the more recent Halloween movies,
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Speaker 2: it's just been absolutely just horrific. Like I'm just like, bro,
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Speaker 2: like this is worse than like knowing that there's someone
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Speaker 2: behind the door and you're gonna go to that door
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Speaker 2: anyway and try to open it and be like, oh man,
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Speaker 2: we have to investigate like some Scooby do shit. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, like they're just going like they're they're
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Speaker 2: going so dumb right now, but I still do love
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Speaker 2: Michael Myers and just the idea of it, and like
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Speaker 2: their earlier movies. I would say Halloween started being bad
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Speaker 2: after the twenty eighteen one. After twenty eighteen one, I
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Speaker 2: was like, all right, not like eighteen. That one was no,
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that one.
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Speaker 2: I love that one. I'm saying like, after that, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: After the twenty eighteen it was just well, I was
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Speaker 2: I was so over it.
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Speaker 1: They made him because when Michael Meyers started out in
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Speaker 1: the first movie from nineteen seventy eight, he was realistic.
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Speaker 1: He was like, Okay, this is a guy. There's no
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Speaker 1: real supernatural elements to it. Now he gets shot at
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Speaker 1: the end of the movie a few times, but and
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Speaker 1: he gets up and you don't know where he is,
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Speaker 1: but he could be wearing a bulletproof vest. But they've
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Speaker 1: made him the supernatural being, which I think takes away
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Speaker 1: from the the fear because I hate to break it
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Speaker 1: to you, guys, that stuff isn't real. But there are
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Speaker 1: real murderers. So that's why that original Halloween was so good,
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Speaker 1: because it was like, there are people that do this,
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Speaker 1: There are people that just go nuts for the sake
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Speaker 1: of going nuts And there was no motivation for Michael
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Speaker 1: Ires in that original movie. He just he just killed
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Speaker 1: his sister as a kid and then got you know,
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Speaker 1: institutionalized and escaped and just killed more people for years
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Speaker 1: and years and years. But that that mask used to
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Speaker 1: scare the crap out of me. I remember renting a
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Speaker 1: movie at a very young age and they had a
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Speaker 1: preview for Halloween h two O, which was I think
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Speaker 1: the sixth movie in the series. Yeah, and there was
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Speaker 1: a trailer for it and it had Laurie, you know,
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Speaker 1: played by Jamie Lee Curtis meeting Michael Myers again and
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Speaker 1: they're like.
19:30
Speaker 2: Face to face.
19:31
Speaker 1: It was like a door in between it. And that
19:34
Speaker 1: scared the crap out of me.
19:35
Speaker 2: I don't know if I will say the design of
19:37
Speaker 2: Michael Myers, I just I mean.
19:39
Speaker 1: Just the white blank expression super super frightening, and it's
19:45
Speaker 1: based off of people probably might know this if they're
19:48
Speaker 1: horror buffs. Uh, the actor William Shatner from Star Trek.
19:53
Speaker 1: That was that was a Star Trek William Shatner, you
19:56
Speaker 1: know mask.
19:58
Speaker 2: I didn't even know.
19:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then they just you know, changed a few things
20:02
Speaker 1: here and spray painted it. And that was the iconic
20:05
Speaker 1: Michael Myers mess.
20:06
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I didn't even know that. Yeah, yeah, just
20:08
Speaker 2: like random facts, like random fun facts like I love that.
20:12
Speaker 1: Now you got any other icons?
20:15
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so definitely him. I actually really liked
20:19
Speaker 2: Hell Raiser. I have such sights to show you. I know,
20:27
Speaker 2: that's an old, old movie. Like it's not like that
20:30
Speaker 2: that old you know, it's just it's from the eighties.
20:32
Speaker 1: Eighties.
20:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, late eighties.
20:33
Speaker 1: First two are really good.
20:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hell Raiser, like just the creepiness of it all.
20:38
Speaker 2: Like I feel like it was like an acid trip
20:40
Speaker 2: like watching them, Like I know, I didn't. I actually
20:43
Speaker 2: didn't watch them like when I was young. I actually
20:45
Speaker 2: watched them as an adult, but it was like more
20:47
Speaker 2: of like my early twenties that I actually like seen
20:49
Speaker 2: them and everything, and it kind of just made me
20:52
Speaker 2: realize especially like from the eighties, like how much like
20:55
Speaker 2: there's definitely like the whole like all right, like we
20:57
Speaker 2: got our big killers, our big murderers and every thing,
21:00
Speaker 2: but looking at stuff like Hell Raiser and eventually when
21:06
Speaker 2: we get into the Evil Dead series, like how they
21:08
Speaker 2: had such a focus on gore and all this blood
21:12
Speaker 2: and like just being gross and like using that as
21:14
Speaker 2: like a tactic of horror.
21:15
Speaker 1: And it's all practical effects. You know, this is before CGI,
21:19
Speaker 1: so it's miniatures, it's prosthetic makeup. It's yeah, it's it's there.
21:24
Speaker 1: And I think that that stands the test of time,
21:27
Speaker 1: especially if you watch early CGI, that stuff ages terribly.
21:31
Speaker 1: It looks like place, it looks crazy graphics. But those
21:35
Speaker 1: effects from you know, the hell Raiser series, they look
21:38
Speaker 1: really good almost forty years later. Yeah, I love so
21:41
Speaker 1: the character Penhead, And.
21:43
Speaker 2: I was about to say Pinhead definitely one of my
21:46
Speaker 2: my favorites because seeing that, I'm just like.
21:48
Speaker 1: Whoa, And it scared the crap out of me. And
21:50
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the movies either until much later on,
21:54
Speaker 1: but you would see the trailers and they would they
21:57
Speaker 1: would legitimately keep me up at night. It's something about
22:01
Speaker 1: a lot of these characters have like pale white faces.
22:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, ghostly Yeah, and you could tell like you're just
22:07
Speaker 2: not sure if this is like an actual person or not.
22:10
Speaker 1: Like that movie is sick and twisted. It's got some
22:13
Speaker 1: like sexuality stuff to it.
22:15
Speaker 2: It's yeah, like it's really raw. Like that was the
22:18
Speaker 2: I can imagine like people in their their teams made
22:21
Speaker 2: their like eighteen plus or whatever, and they like invite
22:24
Speaker 2: in fighting their girlfriend over It's like, yeah, we're gonna
22:26
Speaker 2: watch it. We're gonna watch Hell Razor. You know, set
22:28
Speaker 2: the mood.
22:29
Speaker 1: And they made a few years ago and it had
22:32
Speaker 1: like a female pin Head and.
22:34
Speaker 2: It was actually I didn't even know that.
22:35
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad. It wasn't I think it was on Hulu.
22:39
Speaker 1: It was fine. I think there was a little too
22:41
Speaker 1: much cgi involved with it, Okay, but it was actually
22:45
Speaker 1: a decent you know, sort of remake reboot of an
22:49
Speaker 1: existing property. But yeah, Pinhead and that whole Hell Health
22:52
Speaker 1: Razor series doesn't really get talked about, but really good,
22:56
Speaker 1: good choice any any modern That's the issue with a
22:59
Speaker 1: lot of modern horror movies. I'm not saying they're all awful,
23:04
Speaker 1: but there's no icons.
23:06
Speaker 2: You know, there's no one that's like consistent and they're
23:08
Speaker 2: like making movies of it.
23:09
Speaker 1: Just Jigsaw is the only one I can think of,
23:12
Speaker 1: because you have your contras in your insidious and sinister
23:15
Speaker 1: ghost movies, but there's no like evil entity that they're
23:19
Speaker 1: making action figures of that you know, it's super iconic.
23:22
Speaker 1: But I think Jigsaw and in modern times now it's
23:27
Speaker 1: sort of got a big bump in the last couple
23:29
Speaker 1: of years the Terrifier series. And there's the character of
23:31
Speaker 1: Art the Clown, which is I guess one of the
23:35
Speaker 1: modern icons. Did you see Terrifier three?
23:38
Speaker 2: I did?
23:38
Speaker 1: Did? Yeah? I mentioned that. What did you think of it?
23:41
Speaker 2: Oh my god? I first off, I felt I felt
23:44
Speaker 2: bad because I brought my friend to see with me
23:48
Speaker 2: and he actually did not know what Terrifier was like
23:51
Speaker 2: in general. So to introduce someone into the Terrifier series
23:55
Speaker 2: by letting them watch Terrifier three in theaters like just raw,
24:00
Speaker 2: I was like, I remember just looking to the right
24:02
Speaker 2: and looking at him, and I'm like, I'm not sure
24:04
Speaker 2: if he's okay, but I think he will be maybe.
24:06
Speaker 2: I don't know.
24:06
Speaker 1: Did you were traumatized? Did you warn him? At least
24:09
Speaker 1: I didn't.
24:10
Speaker 2: I didn't give him a good warning, like at all.
24:12
Speaker 2: Like I was like, Hey, you want to see this
24:13
Speaker 2: movie with me? You know, it's whatever, clown kills people, whatever.
24:18
Speaker 2: And then I was sitting there and I was like,
24:19
Speaker 2: oh wow, oh yeah, this is this is a lot.
24:22
Speaker 2: And I'm looking to the right and I'm like, ah,
24:24
Speaker 2: I traumatized him. Yes, Late Tuesday.
24:27
Speaker 1: Night, guys getting a chainsaw is ass. Yeah, like hey
24:31
Speaker 1: you like this?
24:31
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, I'm like, hey, you need to use a
24:33
Speaker 2: bathroom anything like can you pass me to popcord? Like
24:37
Speaker 2: but uh no, I actually was a big fan of it.
24:39
Speaker 2: I know. It was like absolutely like horrific in terms
24:41
Speaker 2: of all the graphics scenes, I will say, big spoiler alert,
24:46
Speaker 2: My favorite scene from that has to be the when
24:50
Speaker 2: they're in the mall and he's pretending to be Santa
24:52
Speaker 2: and he gives out the gifts, because I thought that
24:55
Speaker 2: was I actually okay, I know, like this is just
24:58
Speaker 2: saying like, how like fucked up my humor is? But
25:01
Speaker 2: the way that I was so weak. I was laughing
25:04
Speaker 2: so hard at that scene because I just couldn't believe
25:07
Speaker 2: that that was something that they wrote in the studio.
25:09
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we're gonna we're gonna make
25:11
Speaker 2: sure that that happened. Yeah, and it was so unexpected.
25:14
Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going to happen. But
25:16
Speaker 2: the fact that that happened in terms of the bomb
25:18
Speaker 2: going off and everything, I was like, this is crazy.
25:20
Speaker 1: And you're not really sure in that series, like what's
25:22
Speaker 1: happening is for real? Because the girl's sort of hallucination.
25:25
Speaker 1: So it's like, is this even happening? But yeah, they
25:28
Speaker 1: went there and they those movies are balgy. It's an
25:31
Speaker 1: NC seventeen movie, so it's not rated essentially, and it's
25:35
Speaker 1: making a ton of money. And I love it. I
25:38
Speaker 1: like the series. I'm not like in love with it,
25:40
Speaker 1: but I love the fact that a movie that doesn't
25:43
Speaker 1: have Universal or Disney or all these, doesn't have a
25:47
Speaker 1: high production budget, doesn't have a studio backing it, and
25:50
Speaker 1: it's doing good.
25:52
Speaker 2: It's doing well.
25:53
Speaker 1: It's doing really well, especially on a two million dollar budget.
25:56
Speaker 1: It's making a crap ton of money and beating movies
25:59
Speaker 1: with two hundred million dollar budgets like Joker. So yeah,
26:03
Speaker 1: we need more movies like this. And the series is continuing,
26:08
Speaker 1: you know. They obviously set up a fourth movie.
26:10
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, how it ended.
26:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, they might do a few more of these. You know.
26:14
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm all for originality, even though
26:18
Speaker 1: it's sequels, but it's a new character. It's something. It's
26:21
Speaker 1: not a remake of Jason and Halloween, and it's new. Yeah,
26:24
Speaker 1: and eventually, you know, all those characters, though I mentioned
26:27
Speaker 1: they're going to reboot Jason they're going to reboot Michael
26:31
Speaker 1: Myers because Hollywood is just a nep that making anything new. Yeah,
26:38
Speaker 1: they are void of creativity. As far as other modern
26:44
Speaker 1: icons go, I really can't think of any. But there
26:46
Speaker 1: is a lot of great modern horror movies out there,
26:49
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, movies like Black Phone. I don't
26:52
Speaker 1: know if you saw that way. I thought that was
26:54
Speaker 1: a really good one.
26:55
Speaker 2: Good yeah, And I think if I'm not mistaken, it
26:58
Speaker 2: was rated PG thirteen.
27:00
Speaker 1: It might have been are. But there's but there's there's
27:04
Speaker 1: like a new style of horror movie that to me,
27:08
Speaker 1: I'm actually sort of sick of. And that is and
27:12
Speaker 1: I like the original movies. I like the Conjuring series,
27:15
Speaker 1: but that whole James wand who like produces and directs
27:19
Speaker 1: those movies, that whole universe, I think they all blend together.
27:23
Speaker 1: They all feel the same, right, Nothing stands out all
27:26
Speaker 1: your Annabelles and Conjurings, And to me, I think they're
27:30
Speaker 1: fine movies, but I'm sick of it. I want more creativity.
27:34
Speaker 1: I do horror.
27:36
Speaker 2: I feel like at this point with where they're at,
27:39
Speaker 2: especially in the Conjuring universe, or like everything with how
27:41
Speaker 2: those movies are related to each other. I feel like
27:44
Speaker 2: they need to stop with like all of them, because
27:46
Speaker 2: I feel like just just why after a certain point.
27:50
Speaker 2: I think after like a third or fourth movie, like
27:52
Speaker 2: for example, like the Insidious like series, like I think
27:54
Speaker 2: one and two fine beautiful work, but I think after
27:58
Speaker 2: like in Citious too, like doing like the the third chapter,
28:02
Speaker 2: the fourth key and all this other stuff.
28:04
Speaker 1: What are they up? Did they just have the fourth one? Yeah?
28:07
Speaker 1: That was that was.
28:09
Speaker 2: God. No, I didn't even see the fourth one because
28:11
Speaker 2: I was so disappointed in the third one for that.
28:13
Speaker 2: I didn't even see the fourth one.
28:15
Speaker 1: And the like I said, they all blend together. Someone
28:17
Speaker 1: was to say, what's the difference between conjuring and conjuring two?
28:21
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I couldn't tell you because they
28:23
Speaker 1: all and they all look the same, like they all.
28:26
Speaker 2: Have this yeah set a shot the same.
28:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So let's get more terrifiers out there and
28:33
Speaker 1: less conjuring type movies. Let's move to scariest scenes of
28:38
Speaker 1: all time in movie history. And I mentioned those Jurassic
28:41
Speaker 1: Park movies, but that really stands out to me, this
28:44
Speaker 1: giant force and and the crazy thing is, you know,
28:47
Speaker 1: based on reality in a sense that you know, these
28:50
Speaker 1: creatures existed. Yeah, obviously not with human beings, but thank god,
28:54
Speaker 1: just to think that there is this giant, you know,
28:58
Speaker 1: multiple ton behemoth that was walking this planet and just
29:03
Speaker 1: tearing ship up is just pretty scary. And uh, you know,
29:07
Speaker 1: as a kid, you don't know what what's reality and
29:10
Speaker 1: what's what's fiction, so you might think, like I in
29:14
Speaker 1: my mind, I thought, Okay, dinosaurs might still be out there,
29:19
Speaker 1: or they could bring back dinosaurs. And you know, scientists
29:22
Speaker 1: have been working to bring back extinct animals for years,
29:26
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, sure, the wooly mammott, I know, so
29:29
Speaker 1: so eventually I think we might get you know, dinosaurs.
29:34
Speaker 1: But you know, what's what's so lame because now they're like, oh,
29:37
Speaker 1: dinosaurs have feathers. That's not scary. If you put a
29:41
Speaker 1: t rex in that same scene, but it just looks
29:43
Speaker 1: like a chicken, like, it's not terrifying. Yeah, if they
29:47
Speaker 1: are to bring back dinosaurs, please make them look like
29:50
Speaker 1: movie Dina.
29:51
Speaker 2: It makes them look like dinosaurs like the ones in
29:53
Speaker 2: the books. And yeah, yeah, make them look a little horrifying.
29:56
Speaker 1: But that's the scene that like, especially the t rex,
29:59
Speaker 1: the initial t rex scene, because it's in the rain.
30:02
Speaker 1: They're the kids by themselves in the car, and it's
30:04
Speaker 1: a slow reveal, you know. You see, first of all,
30:09
Speaker 1: you see this goat that's tied up and the t
30:12
Speaker 1: Rex is supposed to eat it, and then the goat's gone,
30:15
Speaker 1: and then it just falls on top of the car
30:18
Speaker 1: and then you hear it. Actually, the first thing you
30:21
Speaker 1: do is you hear you hear the thud of the
30:24
Speaker 1: t Rex walking, and then you see the ripple of
30:27
Speaker 1: the water in the cup and you're like, oh my god,
30:30
Speaker 1: something is approaching. So it's this build up, it's this
30:32
Speaker 1: anticipation and with a lot of modern movies they not
30:37
Speaker 1: the sound gross, but they blow their load way too early.
30:40
Speaker 1: They way too early. I mean with with Jurassic Park,
30:44
Speaker 1: you don't see the t Rex right away. The velociraptor
30:47
Speaker 1: attacks a crew in the beginning of the movie, but
30:49
Speaker 1: you don't see it. You just see the people being
30:52
Speaker 1: attacked and this one guy sort of gets dragged. They're
30:55
Speaker 1: not showing the monsters until twenty five minutes thirty minutes
30:59
Speaker 1: into it, and it builds this anticipation up, and then
31:02
Speaker 1: when you finally see the t Rex, it's not right away.
31:04
Speaker 1: You know, you see an arm drag down the fence,
31:07
Speaker 1: and then it's a slow build up. So that's why
31:10
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg is such a master director, because he's not
31:13
Speaker 1: just he's not just showing anarchy and chaos at the
31:16
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie and showing everything out there. It's
31:18
Speaker 1: a slow build That's why I did such a good
31:20
Speaker 1: job with Jaws. You don't see the shark and Jaws
31:22
Speaker 1: right away. You just see a girl get taken underwater,
31:25
Speaker 1: and then you you use your own imagination to create fear.
31:29
Speaker 1: But those scenes in Jurassic Park definitely, to me, are
31:32
Speaker 1: right up there with some of the scariest scenes. The
31:34
Speaker 1: other one is a movie I just watched recently, and
31:38
Speaker 1: it's it's a polarizing movie and it's The Blair Witch Project.
31:42
Speaker 1: And it's not.
31:43
Speaker 2: Because of me that we're here now, hungry cold.
31:52
Speaker 1: Just apologize to Mike's mom and Josh's mom and my mom.
32:00
Speaker 1: Tell why good people either love this movie or hate
32:13
Speaker 1: this movie. But people can't deny that this movie was
32:16
Speaker 1: a juggernaut. It was one of the cheapest movies to
32:18
Speaker 1: be made to be released theatrically. I think it only
32:21
Speaker 1: costs fifty thousand dollars, which is chump change, and it
32:26
Speaker 1: made three hundred million dollars and that's not including VHS sales.
32:30
Speaker 1: So when it was released on video format, it made
32:33
Speaker 1: you know, probably a billion dollars altogether on a fifty
32:37
Speaker 1: thousand dollars budget. This was the first movie to really
32:39
Speaker 1: do that viral marketing. You know, it was the infancy
32:44
Speaker 1: of the Internet as we know it, and it sort
32:46
Speaker 1: of took advantage of that because it's nineteen ninety nine
32:49
Speaker 1: when this movie is released, and they made audiences think
32:52
Speaker 1: that this was a true story. For people that don't know,
32:55
Speaker 1: the Blair Witch is not a real thing. There's no,
32:58
Speaker 1: it's not. But it's it's not even like a fate.
33:01
Speaker 1: I always thought like, okay, the story is probably not real,
33:04
Speaker 1: but this is probably a fable that goes back years ago. No,
33:07
Speaker 1: it's all created for this movie, and they they did
33:11
Speaker 1: such a great job of thinking that this is actual
33:14
Speaker 1: found footage. This was the first found footage movie, and
33:17
Speaker 1: movies like you know, Paranormal Activity sort of copied that
33:22
Speaker 1: format of you know, being a the audience sort of
33:27
Speaker 1: put into this world through a camera that that you know,
33:30
Speaker 1: the person in the movie is actually using and it
33:33
Speaker 1: is frightening. I can understand why people don't like it
33:36
Speaker 1: because not a lot happens, and it's usually it's more cerebral,
33:40
Speaker 1: and you're you're using your own imagination, and and and
33:45
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're you know, I'm having like a
33:48
Speaker 1: mid stroke right now. So we're gonna edit that.
33:51
Speaker 2: It's we're gonna edit that. Don't worry about that part.
33:54
Speaker 1: Actually, I'll probably leave all this in because I don't
33:55
Speaker 1: give a crap, but I would love that. Actually, yeah,
33:58
Speaker 1: no screws, I don't give ye but stroke, stroke stroke.
34:03
Speaker 1: What was they saying, Oh the Blair Witch. Yeah, you're
34:06
Speaker 1: using your own imagination to you know, fantasize as to
34:10
Speaker 1: is this actually happening? Is there a witch out there?
34:13
Speaker 1: And you don't really see anything, but the scene that
34:15
Speaker 1: stands out is the last five minutes of this movie.
34:19
Speaker 1: So you know one of the guys is missing. They
34:21
Speaker 1: hear them off in the distance. There's this building that
34:27
Speaker 1: is just distraught, and you know, it's a fifty sixty
34:30
Speaker 1: year old building, and they the two characters go in
34:34
Speaker 1: the building looking for the character and there's little handprints
34:39
Speaker 1: of children all throughout this building and then they go
34:44
Speaker 1: up into the attic, they don't see anything. They go
34:46
Speaker 1: into the basement, one character's in there, and then you
34:49
Speaker 1: just see the character of Mike standing in the corner,
34:52
Speaker 1: and the girl goes into the basement and she gets
34:54
Speaker 1: attacked at the end and the camera just falls over.
34:57
Speaker 1: But it's just it's like five to ten ten minutes
35:00
Speaker 1: scene of just pure chaos and you're not sure exactly
35:04
Speaker 1: what's happening. But again, you don't see anything. You don't
35:07
Speaker 1: see any monster. There's no actual witch that you see
35:12
Speaker 1: throughout this movie. And they were gonna actually show something,
35:15
Speaker 1: they actually created, you know, a creature effect for the witch,
35:19
Speaker 1: and they ended up you know, not even using it
35:21
Speaker 1: because it wasn't needed because you can create your own
35:25
Speaker 1: theory as to what happened. Did one of the characters
35:28
Speaker 1: just lose his mind and just you know kill the
35:30
Speaker 1: other guys because of he was just sort of losing
35:33
Speaker 1: his mind because they were lost in the woods for days.
35:35
Speaker 1: So that's the beauty of that movie. But yeah, whenever
35:38
Speaker 1: that movie ends, because it ends with the girl getting
35:41
Speaker 1: knocked over, the cameras just sort of on its side.
35:44
Speaker 1: Once the credits start, I'm freaked out. Like that's something
35:48
Speaker 1: that to me is super frightening. Less is more in
35:52
Speaker 1: that movie, and that I think is perfection.
35:55
Speaker 2: I have to look into that movie. Actually, I actually
35:57
Speaker 2: don't think I've seen it, but with the way that
35:59
Speaker 2: you describe, it almost feels like it has that VHS
36:02
Speaker 2: like type of feel in terms of like how they're
36:04
Speaker 2: doing that, the camera work in the angles of it. Yeah,
36:07
Speaker 2: just seeing like the whole like oh, the camera like
36:09
Speaker 2: fell over and things like that. I like when movies
36:11
Speaker 2: are are portrayed in that way. I feel like it
36:13
Speaker 2: feels more like, oh, like I'm watching like a tape
36:15
Speaker 2: or some.
36:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what people thought when they
36:18
Speaker 1: were watching this movie. They didn't know if this was
36:20
Speaker 1: at because again this is right in today, a movie
36:24
Speaker 1: like this wouldn't have the same buzz that it had
36:26
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine because we didn't know that these
36:30
Speaker 1: were actors. Now, they'll be an IMDb page, they'll see
36:33
Speaker 1: this right, person Facebook their Instagram right, there'll be Twitter accounts,
36:37
Speaker 1: they'll be tiktoks of the actors somewhere. This is nineteen
36:41
Speaker 1: ninety nine, so a lot of the audience is convinced
36:44
Speaker 1: that this is actual found footage because they're not showing
36:47
Speaker 1: anything supernatural. So it's not like, Okay, clearly they're here. Yeah,
36:52
Speaker 1: so there's no effects that are done. It's all just woodshit.
36:55
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, there's a pile of sticks, here's rocks
36:57
Speaker 1: in a weird formation. It's nothing. It's not think it's
37:00
Speaker 1: weird for but again, and that's why people either love
37:03
Speaker 1: the movie or hate the movie, because other audience members
37:06
Speaker 1: are like, okay, can we see something? Can we see
37:08
Speaker 1: a monster? But to me, I think it's perfection that
37:11
Speaker 1: there is just oh sticks, these sticks are put in
37:15
Speaker 1: a cross formations. It's frightening. So I love it. Yeah
37:19
Speaker 1: you should. I think you should watch it, and I'd
37:22
Speaker 1: be interested to know what your thoughts are.
37:25
Speaker 2: No, I will definitely I will make a note of
37:27
Speaker 2: that for myself. I definitely will look into that.
37:29
Speaker 1: What are some scenes and moments and horror movies that
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Speaker 1: stand out for you as some of the scariest.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure. I think. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: you've ever seen Midsomar. No, I've heard.
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Speaker 1: I've heard mixed things though. That's the thing to me.
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Speaker 1: I heard it could be boring at times, long movie too,
37:50
Speaker 1: it is.
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Speaker 2: It is a long movie. I when I had first
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Speaker 2: scene and actually seen it in theaters, so I was
37:54
Speaker 2: in there like getting numb. Yeah, okay, because it is
37:57
Speaker 2: a long movie, I will admit that. But I know
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Speaker 2: from personally, like I'm such an audio person in general,
38:02
Speaker 2: so this was such a movie that focused on audio
38:06
Speaker 2: and being such a tactic for the horror here. So
38:08
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of like creepy sounds or just
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Speaker 2: like in general, like you would think there's the awkwardness
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Speaker 2: that comes in that movie with how how they like
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Speaker 2: prolong like different sounds.
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Speaker 1: Like.
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Speaker 2: For example, there's a scene Amidsomar for when the main character,
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Speaker 2: which is one of the main characters, is this woman.
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Speaker 2: They're they're in Sweden, right, they had went away, So
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Speaker 2: this woman and her her boyfriend at the time whatever,
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Speaker 2: they they went away with the boyfriend's friends. They're at
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Speaker 2: Sweden and they're in what seems to be like a
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Speaker 2: very culty like area with like a group of people
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Speaker 2: or maybe like a town village of people or whatever.
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Speaker 2: And there's a scene where the main character, this woman,
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Speaker 2: and like a bunch of the women from the village
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Speaker 2: are like crying and for whatever reason, that scene kind
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Speaker 2: of like resonated with me. Not because of like the
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Speaker 2: crying or like that I'm just a girl, but just
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Speaker 2: the fact of how long they made that scene. I
39:03
Speaker 2: thought it was just like creepy in itself, because you
39:05
Speaker 2: just feel like I feel like with movies are just
39:07
Speaker 2: when watching things or just knowing or being familiar with
39:10
Speaker 2: interactions in general, you have an idea of how long
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Speaker 2: these interactions should be. So the fact that they made
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Speaker 2: that scene alone like so long, and you could tell
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Speaker 2: that they put efensis on how they were screaming and
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Speaker 2: the sound of it and how loud it is, and
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Speaker 2: they just made it. I don't know. It was just
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Speaker 2: like weird stuff that was definitely going on in that movie.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was great I had with them.
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Speaker 1: It's on my list of things that I want to
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Speaker 1: watch because.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of creepy shit that I think is
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Speaker 2: just going on in a movie. You're not really sure
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Speaker 2: exactly what's happening, why they're even there for that long,
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Speaker 2: the way they are, whether if they could truly trust
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Speaker 2: this friend because it's the woman, it's her boyfriend's friend
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Speaker 2: that brought them all there. It was like, oh, like
39:50
Speaker 2: I want to bring you guys like, you know, see
39:51
Speaker 2: my family Da Da Da, and they go on this
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Speaker 2: huge trip to Sweden and then I don't know, just
39:56
Speaker 2: in general, this movie made me scared to even visit
39:59
Speaker 2: Sweden myself. Maybe if I have like a like some
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Speaker 2: shrewms on me or something, maybe I'll be a little
40:04
Speaker 2: bit more tempted, because it's just like, all right, the
40:06
Speaker 2: grass is really nice out there, Maybe I should go.
40:08
Speaker 2: But definitely some scenes in Midsommer I think are some
40:12
Speaker 2: of the I don't know if it's potentially like the scariest,
40:15
Speaker 2: but I know some scenes in there are my favorite
40:17
Speaker 2: because I just really like how they made such an
40:20
Speaker 2: emphasis on sound in that movie and how that was
40:23
Speaker 2: a big tactic of horror there.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes the scenes that stick with you are the ones
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Speaker 1: that maybe maybe they don't create like a screaming like
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Speaker 1: they're not like a jump scares. To me, jump scares
40:36
Speaker 1: are really lazy.
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Speaker 2: They are They may hate jump scared.
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Speaker 1: They make you scared in the moment, but you.
40:41
Speaker 2: Know it's a cheap shot. Of course I'm scared, But.
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Speaker 1: When you're driving home at night, those aren't the scenes
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Speaker 1: you think about. It's the creepy imagery. It's something like
40:50
Speaker 1: the lady in the bathtub in the shining or it's right,
40:53
Speaker 1: like I said, those scenes from The Blair Witch Project.
40:56
Speaker 1: There's no jump scares in the Blair Witch Project. It's
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Speaker 1: just all you know, creepy shots and.
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Speaker 2: Just creepy shots, the awkwardness, like prolonged.
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Speaker 1: Stuff like that stuff that to me is really haunting
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Speaker 1: it and stands the test of time as far as
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Speaker 1: any other scenes that.
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Speaker 2: Sort of Yeah, sure, so there's definitely that. There's this
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Speaker 2: movie called The Annihilation and it is a movie about
41:22
Speaker 2: this biologist basically being reached out to about uh, there's
41:27
Speaker 2: like a specific area in the woods that like there's
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Speaker 2: a weird radiation that's coming from it.
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Speaker 1: YEA saw the movie.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, So I won't even going to explaining it.
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Speaker 2: So do you remember that scene of when they're in
41:39
Speaker 2: like this weird like kind of like they're in like
41:41
Speaker 2: a house like while they're in that area and that bear,
41:45
Speaker 2: duck crocodile looking creature I came through and just started
41:49
Speaker 2: like just regay havoc and like grabbed one of the people.
41:51
Speaker 2: I think that scene for me it was just like, oh,
42:00
Speaker 2: that was.
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Speaker 1: A movie that I thought was really good. Yeah, and
42:04
Speaker 1: it was all women from what I remember.
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Speaker 2: And it was which was great because you don't really
42:08
Speaker 2: see that too often, I feel like too.
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Speaker 1: And the beauty of it it wasn't forced because a
42:12
Speaker 1: lot of times they have scenes or movies with women
42:15
Speaker 1: and their whole shtick is like we're women. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's like yeah, it's like an emphasis. It's just like, yeah,
42:21
Speaker 2: we're shit here, we're power, and this is like, oh, they.
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Speaker 1: Just happened to be women.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The one that stands out in the Last Avengers movie,
42:29
Speaker 1: there's a scene where like all the female superheroes are
42:32
Speaker 1: doing their own thing and then they're like standing in
42:34
Speaker 1: front of the camera.
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Speaker 2: The light is like behind them and their hair is
42:38
Speaker 2: blowing in the wind and stuff. It could definitely take
42:41
Speaker 2: away from it.
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Speaker 1: It's so annoying, but Annihilation was awesome.
42:43
Speaker 2: Annihilation was awesome. I had a good time with that.
42:46
Speaker 2: Or even when they were that scene where they were
42:50
Speaker 2: watching the video. I think the husband was in that
42:52
Speaker 2: video and it was like they were doing like weird
42:54
Speaker 2: like cutting him open and taking the intestines out and
42:56
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So like definitely a scene like that.
42:59
Speaker 2: Those resonated with me. I feel like those were my favorites.
43:03
Speaker 2: I also really like I can't really name specific scenes
43:06
Speaker 2: from Sinister, but I do recall like really enjoying Sinister
43:09
Speaker 2: one and two, like just the whole again, the whole, like, Oh,
43:12
Speaker 2: we're like looking at tapes and like we're just like
43:15
Speaker 2: witnessing something happened and trying to see if that is
43:18
Speaker 2: something that's real or not. And uh, to kind of
43:22
Speaker 2: bring it back to Saw. I'm actually a big fan
43:25
Speaker 2: of the Saw series, except for Sauce Spy. I think
43:28
Speaker 2: it was Saw Spiral or something like that, the one
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Speaker 2: with Chris Rock. Yeah, that was horrible.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was horrible, really bad ending. Yeah, I
43:36
Speaker 1: thought it was alright until like the last twenty minutes
43:40
Speaker 1: and then it sort of spiraled.
43:41
Speaker 2: I feel like the entire movie. I was just pissed.
43:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pissed off the entire movie. I don't know
43:46
Speaker 2: what it was about it, Like I feel like, again,
43:48
Speaker 2: I know, it's the whole same story, like, oh my god,
43:51
Speaker 2: who's this guy doing these creepy killings to people? And
43:54
Speaker 2: we have to find out. But I feel like with
43:56
Speaker 2: Saw Spiral, for some reason, like it was so obvious
43:59
Speaker 2: from the jump what was happening. I was doing it,
44:01
Speaker 2: and the police are just like, oh man, how do
44:03
Speaker 2: we catch this guy? And I feel like there were
44:05
Speaker 2: so many ways that they could have it, just I
44:08
Speaker 2: don't know, it just felt really stupid for me. So
44:10
Speaker 2: I did not like that movie. But in terms of
44:12
Speaker 2: like my favorite scene, one of my favorite scenes from
44:14
Speaker 2: the Saw series was definitely there was this one scene
44:18
Speaker 2: where I forgot which Saw movie it was, but it
44:21
Speaker 2: was that public that public killing that they did. They
44:24
Speaker 2: were in uh, it was like two guys in the
44:27
Speaker 2: window like in the like show when I don't even
44:31
Speaker 2: know what am I talking about, Like show, Like they're
44:34
Speaker 2: in like this window right like in public, and everyone
44:36
Speaker 2: is able to see the storefront like a storefront right yeah,
44:40
Speaker 2: justin Oh my god. I don't know why it took
44:41
Speaker 2: me so long to find the words for that, because
44:43
Speaker 2: I'm just like, what do you call this? Yeah, basically
44:48
Speaker 2: it got transferred over. But that scene alone where the
44:53
Speaker 2: girl is basically up on top and it's like on
44:55
Speaker 2: top of this saw and these two guys like basically
44:59
Speaker 2: was involved with her and it's a matter of like,
45:01
Speaker 2: oh man, like which one is she gonna choose? Like,
45:04
Speaker 2: and they basically ended up just like killing her like
45:06
Speaker 2: letting her be killed, but the fact that that was
45:08
Speaker 2: a whole like public execution, Like I really enjoyed that
45:12
Speaker 2: scene for sure.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned, uh that that the saw spirals like obvious
45:17
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. But when I think of
45:20
Speaker 1: horror movies, a lot of them have great twists.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is.
45:23
Speaker 1: That is you know, a cliche that I think, when
45:27
Speaker 1: done right, is something that could you know, be iconic.
45:31
Speaker 1: That like when I think of the sixth Sense, which
45:34
Speaker 1: I just rewatched again, you know the fact that have
45:37
Speaker 1: you seen the sixth sense? By the way, do you
45:39
Speaker 1: know the twist and the sixth sense?
45:41
Speaker 2: I don't the sixth sense?
45:43
Speaker 1: What is it all?
45:44
Speaker 2: Give me like a small like just a small.
45:46
Speaker 1: Place like probably seeing the parody of I think they
45:50
Speaker 1: parody in uh one of the scary movie movies. Okay,
45:54
Speaker 1: he says I see dead people.
45:57
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the sixth sense.
45:59
Speaker 1: That's the sixth sense.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think in scary movie they say I
46:03
Speaker 1: see white people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
46:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't know the twist? No, you got
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Speaker 1: to watch the sixth to watch the six Oh my god,
46:12
Speaker 1: please do that this week it's on maybe pe Cocker
46:16
Speaker 1: one of these streaming services. Hopefully they didn't take it down,
46:19
Speaker 1: but I rewatched it this week, and you know, watching
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Speaker 1: it knowing what's going to happen, it sort of takes
46:25
Speaker 1: away from it. But it's still really good acting performances.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1: But movies like that that have that moment not even
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Speaker 1: in horror movies. They're just movies in general, where like
46:34
Speaker 1: a movie like The Original Planet of the Apes from
46:36
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight has this twist where they happened to
46:39
Speaker 1: be on planet Earth the whole time and he didn't
46:41
Speaker 1: know that, you know, he was in the future of
46:43
Speaker 1: Earth and he sees the Statue of Liberty and you
46:46
Speaker 1: had as an audience, are like, oh my god, they
46:48
Speaker 1: were on Earth the whole fucking time and it just
46:51
Speaker 1: happened to be taken over by Apes. Damn you, God,
46:57
Speaker 1: damn you because they're in the distant future. Stuff like
47:03
Speaker 1: that twists n night. Shyamalan, who directed The Sixth Sense,
47:07
Speaker 1: his whole thing now is, you know, he has to
47:09
Speaker 1: have a secret twist ending, but the Sixth Sense is
47:14
Speaker 1: his sort of you know, crown jewel when it comes
47:17
Speaker 1: to the twist ending. So I'm gonna need you back
47:21
Speaker 1: on this show.
47:22
Speaker 2: I was about to say, we need more episodes because
47:24
Speaker 2: we just got movie recommendations from each other.
47:26
Speaker 1: I'll watch that in summer, and now you watch the
47:29
Speaker 1: Sixth Sense and we'll have to come back for that.
47:31
Speaker 1: That well, let's get to the main event. The main
47:35
Speaker 1: event that would be the Evil Dead series, which I'm
47:37
Speaker 1: a huge fan of. This series. Yeah, you know, directed
47:40
Speaker 1: by Sam Raimi who would go on to direct the
47:43
Speaker 1: Spider Man series and is one of the you know,
47:46
Speaker 1: biggest directors of the last twenty five years or so,
47:49
Speaker 1: but he got his start in horror and that original
47:52
Speaker 1: Evil Dead movie I enjoy. I really do like the
47:55
Speaker 1: first Evil Dead but to me, it's when Evil Dead
47:58
Speaker 1: two comes out is when I fall in love with
48:00
Speaker 1: this series because it's sort of a soft reboot of
48:03
Speaker 1: that original story. And now these guys are more experienced.
48:08
Speaker 1: You know that was that was a Bruce Campbell and
48:10
Speaker 1: and Sam Raimi. That was sort of their first film,
48:13
Speaker 1: so they they they're rookies, but now they are experienced
48:17
Speaker 1: when it comes to Evil Dead two, and they know
48:19
Speaker 1: what worked in that original movie, what didn't work, and
48:22
Speaker 1: then they amped it up. They turned the dial to
48:25
Speaker 1: eleven and then they also implemented the comedy element, and
48:28
Speaker 1: that is a very important thing when it comes to
48:31
Speaker 1: Army of Darkness and Evil Dead two. They're very funny movies.
48:35
Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell is a really talented comedic actor and a
48:38
Speaker 1: physical comedian. He puts his body on the line, you know,
48:41
Speaker 1: he'll smash stuff over his head, he'll flip his own body.
48:45
Speaker 1: He's very much inspired by The Three Stooges, was both
48:48
Speaker 1: Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell. They're big fans of The Stooges,
48:52
Speaker 1: so they tried to implement you know Stooges, you know,
48:55
Speaker 1: cliche type of comedy, like you know, the poking of
48:58
Speaker 1: the eyes and blocking the eye with your hand. I
49:01
Speaker 1: mean they do. They do literal Three Stooges bits in
49:05
Speaker 1: these movies. But it's amazing practical effects. It's great comedy,
49:09
Speaker 1: it's great scares. Evil Dead two to me is probably
49:14
Speaker 1: in my top five favorite horror movies of all time.
49:18
Speaker 1: I think it's the best of the series. Is there
49:21
Speaker 1: one that you think is the best?
49:23
Speaker 2: Is it?
49:24
Speaker 1: You know, they remade it in twenty thirteen. They had
49:26
Speaker 1: one that came out last year. They have the original
49:29
Speaker 1: three and then there's also the Ash Versus Evil Dead series,
49:31
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic series that was on Stars a
49:34
Speaker 1: few years ago. Is there one in the series that
49:37
Speaker 1: is your all time favorite?
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Speaker 2: I feel like, honestly the most recent one, which was
49:42
Speaker 2: The Evil Dead Rise and actually to One in twenty thirteen,
49:47
Speaker 2: those were the two Evil deads that actually really enjoy
49:50
Speaker 2: And again definitely with the whole aspect of it being
49:53
Speaker 2: a horror comedy type of type of film, is just
49:58
Speaker 2: the scenes like from Evil Dead Rise or even like
50:01
Speaker 2: subceeds from Evil Dead from the twenty thirteen movie, it's
50:06
Speaker 2: just funny, Like I'm like in in the Sea, just
50:09
Speaker 2: kind of like shaking up a little bit just from
50:11
Speaker 2: like the gore, like just knowing like, okay, this person
50:14
Speaker 2: already turned like some shit's about to go down. But
50:17
Speaker 2: when like a random moment will just happen like out
50:19
Speaker 2: of nowhere, that's like funny and it kind of just
50:21
Speaker 2: brings me out of it. But it's like it's a
50:23
Speaker 2: weird comedic relief that I like, I've come to appreciate.
50:27
Speaker 1: And the Evil Dead Rise had balds because it's one
50:31
Speaker 1: of the rare movies that they actually kill kids in
50:35
Speaker 1: a lot of these movies shy away from that, even
50:39
Speaker 1: like the really bad characters like a Jason Vorhes. You
50:41
Speaker 1: never see him kill a kid in any of the movies,
50:44
Speaker 1: you know, older teenagers. But in this movie Evil Dead Rise,
50:48
Speaker 1: it had some Baalds on it, And I do appreciate that.
50:52
Speaker 1: I definitely still like the original ones better, but I
50:56
Speaker 1: will say that I do enjoy that these movies didn't
50:59
Speaker 1: shy away from from practical effects. They're using real blood.
51:02
Speaker 1: A lot of these, particularly action movies, use a lot
51:05
Speaker 1: of CGI blood, which to me looks so bad, it
51:08
Speaker 1: looks so video game made. So the fact that this
51:12
Speaker 1: movie wasn't afraid to use those practical effects and it
51:16
Speaker 1: did something different Evil Dead Rise, where it wasn't the
51:19
Speaker 1: same thing in the cabin in the woods. They were
51:21
Speaker 1: in an apartment like.
51:23
Speaker 2: A little apartment complex.
51:24
Speaker 1: And I'm glad they tried something. I'm glad they tried
51:27
Speaker 1: something different, but.
51:30
Speaker 2: Something you also sorry to cut off if I did
51:34
Speaker 2: something that I wanted to mention. Well, you had mentioned
51:37
Speaker 2: I wanted to reiterate the importance of how they finally
51:40
Speaker 2: brought like some kids into this shit, like into Evil
51:44
Speaker 2: Dead Rise. Well, yeah, we have like one kid and
51:47
Speaker 2: like two teenagers. But the fact of how all that
51:50
Speaker 2: played out and they didn't spare the kids at all,
51:52
Speaker 2: I just thought that was like great.
51:53
Speaker 1: I was like, good again, if a kid sees this,
51:56
Speaker 1: going back to my Jurassic Park story, you know, when
51:59
Speaker 1: I was a kid, there were kids in that movie.
52:01
Speaker 1: So if you're like an eight year old nine year
52:03
Speaker 1: old kid watching Evil Dad, yeah, you're gonna imagine yourself
52:08
Speaker 1: in that role, because you're not gonna imagine yourself as
52:10
Speaker 1: a forty year old mom. It's just like, you can't
52:12
Speaker 1: put yourself in those shoes, but you could put yourself
52:14
Speaker 1: in the shoes of the kids. Right. So again, I
52:17
Speaker 1: think a really smart decision. We'll see what they do
52:20
Speaker 1: with that series. I'm sure they're not done with it.
52:24
Speaker 1: I would like to see Bruce Campbell come back as Ash.
52:26
Speaker 1: At some point, I know he sort of said he's
52:29
Speaker 1: done with the series. I think they did a video
52:31
Speaker 1: game and he said he'll do voiceover work for it.
52:34
Speaker 1: But I think he might be done. I think he
52:36
Speaker 1: might be done as Ash, which you know, he had
52:39
Speaker 1: a good run. He's forty years of playing that character
52:42
Speaker 1: on and off. But I would like to see one
52:44
Speaker 1: final Sam Raymie, Bruce Campbell team up to do the
52:48
Speaker 1: Evil Dead series, you know, just to wrap it up,
52:50
Speaker 1: because they.
52:51
Speaker 2: Just wrap it up in that sense, at least with
52:53
Speaker 2: their story.
52:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just to wrap this episode up because we've
52:57
Speaker 1: been going for about an hour now. I want to
53:00
Speaker 1: talk about the Jordan Peel movies.
53:02
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he do that.
53:03
Speaker 1: Actually, I think, you know, uh, he's a director that
53:08
Speaker 1: does originality, which I'm all for, and I think I
53:13
Speaker 1: think like his first movie the best. I think get
53:15
Speaker 1: Out is his best one.
53:17
Speaker 2: There's two different endings with that one, too, is there? Yeah?
53:20
Speaker 1: I did not know that.
53:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two different endings. I think the one ending
53:24
Speaker 2: that everyone is familiar with was the one where his
53:27
Speaker 2: best friend comes in the police, right. The other ending
53:32
Speaker 2: is it was like actual police Oh yeah at all.
53:36
Speaker 2: So you see a black man and this poor white
53:41
Speaker 2: victim of a woman, like covered in blood, like help me,
53:44
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
53:45
Speaker 1: I'm shocked didn't go with that ending. I think that
53:47
Speaker 1: would have had a more you would have remembered.
53:50
Speaker 2: It. Was shocked about it too, yeah, because it's just like, oh, man,
53:54
Speaker 2: like you finally think he's about to escape, and then
53:56
Speaker 2: obviously they went right yeah, I'm kind of mad, Yeah,
54:01
Speaker 2: because I like there's two endings.
54:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should have they should have released the that
54:06
Speaker 1: one in theaters though.
54:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
54:09
Speaker 1: I like that movie the most as far as his
54:12
Speaker 1: trilogy of films. But I'm always interested to see what
54:16
Speaker 1: he does next because he doesn't do sequels. He's not He's.
54:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say though I was not a fan
54:24
Speaker 2: of Nope at all. No, I was not a fan
54:28
Speaker 2: at all.
54:28
Speaker 1: Especially was terrible.
54:32
Speaker 2: I thought the whole thing. I was just sitting there pissed. Yeah, pissed.
54:35
Speaker 2: And I and I made this kind of like a
54:37
Speaker 2: special thing because it was around my birthday at the time,
54:40
Speaker 2: and I knew about Nope from when he had first
54:43
Speaker 2: announced it. So I'm sitting on like two years of
54:45
Speaker 2: knowing about Nope and just waiting for it in theaters.
54:48
Speaker 2: I went to a whole drive in like theater, So
54:51
Speaker 2: in my car, pissed. I'm in my car pissed. I
54:54
Speaker 2: don't even want popcorn from this random shack in the
54:56
Speaker 2: woods anymore. Like I'm pissed, like I don't know what
54:59
Speaker 2: it well, I do know what it was. I just
55:02
Speaker 2: feel like the entire movie, like it was just I
55:04
Speaker 2: don't even know what I was watching. I feel like
55:06
Speaker 2: none of it brought any type of like fear or
55:10
Speaker 2: I just don't think any of it was scary, And
55:13
Speaker 2: you know, that was very weird for me because I know,
55:15
Speaker 2: for me, a big thing with what can be scary
55:18
Speaker 2: is definitely the unknown. So I just don't know why,
55:23
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if I just had such high
55:25
Speaker 2: expectations for what it was that could yeah, because I
55:28
Speaker 2: was waiting on it for like like two years before
55:30
Speaker 2: it actually like dropped, So even without having any idea
55:33
Speaker 2: as to what the movie was gonna entail, I still
55:36
Speaker 2: just had such big expectations and I just feel like
55:39
Speaker 2: it was not met at all. But I will I
55:43
Speaker 2: will agree with you on get Out probably be my favorite.
55:46
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed Us too, but I will say it
55:48
Speaker 2: was definitely kind of confusing, and I honestly like I
55:52
Speaker 2: think if I revisited maybe like one or two more times,
55:54
Speaker 2: I would have a better opinion about it. But I know,
55:57
Speaker 2: I definitely like get Out was like good praise, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: great performances. I think he does a good job with
56:03
Speaker 2: getting the right people to do everything.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he announced a new movie. I
56:09
Speaker 1: think it's coming out in a year or so, so
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it will make a lot of money. Yeah,
56:16
Speaker 1: movies make a lot of money. People are invested in
56:19
Speaker 1: his film. You know, his his directing, so we'll see
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Speaker 1: what he does. But nessa, this has been a pleasure,
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Speaker 1: a pleasure, Justine. But we need to have the the
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Speaker 1: sequel addition, we do because you need to watch the
56:32
Speaker 1: Sixth Sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Blair Witch Project. That's also.
56:36
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you don't know the sixth Sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm so familiar with that reference. But I
56:43
Speaker 2: was just like, where did I come? I didn't go
56:45
Speaker 2: further to see where it came from to actually like
56:47
Speaker 2: watch it. So definitely watch it. I don't know if
56:50
Speaker 2: you know the VHS movies, Yeah, I would recommend that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, how many do they have? Now?
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Speaker 2: They have a lot now. I actually didn't even know
56:57
Speaker 2: they had so much. I gotta watch them myself because
56:59
Speaker 2: I thing I only watched the first two movies, first
57:02
Speaker 2: two or three movies.
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Speaker 1: They're not released in theaters either.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I think they're just directed. They're just yea.
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Speaker 1: Streaming or whatnot. That's a shame that a lot of
57:10
Speaker 1: these movies don't get the the theatrical release.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot of them really deserve it, honestly.
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Speaker 1: All right now, so well, thank you for joining me
57:19
Speaker 1: on Film Reel. We'll be back, hopefully in a few
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Speaker 1: weeks to recap some of the movies that we mentioned seeing,
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Speaker 1: and I eventually will get that Transformers Part three episode
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Speaker 1: out that will be the next episode of Film Reel.
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Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening so long.
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Speaker 2: Bye, Thank you. It was a pleasure.