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SMNTY Classics: The Last of Us Special, Episode 7 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: I welcome to stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Will never told you production if I hurt you, And yes,
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: we are just we decided we're just gonna play all
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: these last of those classics is we we got too
• 0:27
  Speaker 3: far in it didn't make sense to stop, so we're
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: just gonna keep going. This is in part inspired because
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: it is October spooky season. We did go to Seattle recently,
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: Samantha and I did, and that is where the second
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: game takes place, and I had a very fun time
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: being annoying and pointing out all of the things. So, yes,
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: this episode was a downloadable content. It was something we downloaded.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: People who play the game downloaded later and it's when
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: you see how Ellie got bitten. And it was a
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: very moving episode.
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  Speaker 2: It did have a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Of the that that content that like playing that was
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  Speaker 3: very different than a lot of stuff in the Last
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: of Us, but also that I've just ever played because
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: it had so many like let's take pictures together, or
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: let's play this water gun game, or it was just
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  Speaker 3: a kind of very sweet mini game thing that was
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: happening within the Zombie Apocalypse world, but within the backdrop
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: is how Ellie is dealing with Joel dying, and so
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: it's seeing her, seeing her trying to save him, trying
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  Speaker 3: to get him this medicine, and having these flashbacks of
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: her first love Riley, and they share a very sweet,
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: messy kiss and it's cute.
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  Speaker 1: I describe that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's cute because it's clear they're not experienced,
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  Speaker 3: like it's a very awkward kiss.
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  Speaker 2: But of course zombies come in and a ruin of thee.
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  Speaker 3: But she's having these flashbacks in part because she feels
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  Speaker 3: like she's always she says throughout the first game, like
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: I'm afraid of ending up alone. Everyone's always left me
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: all of this stuff. Joel is telling her to leave
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  Speaker 3: and she's like at the door, having these flashbacks of
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  Speaker 3: like should I leave or should I stay? And she stays,
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  Speaker 3: and that is what this episode is about. So please enjoy.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: Hey this, and Samantha, I'm welcome.
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: To Stephman Never Told You, Protection of iHeart Radio, and
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  Speaker 3: welcome to episode seven of our nine possibly ten part
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  Speaker 3: mini series on the Last of Us, the HBO Max series,
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  Speaker 3: which is not a sponsor. And thanks to everyone who
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: keeps talking about the other official podcast. I appreciate it,
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: but man, every time.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a little dnt my self esteem? No, not really.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: I do love hearing about it. We are not the
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: official podcast, just fans.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: This is a love letter. It really is to the
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  Speaker 1: game and show you from Annie love Annie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, with Samantha support.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, with me as a ps like she's mad at you.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm telling about.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And Samantha has been lovely this whole
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: time and has hosted our watch parties.
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  Speaker 2: This one was a cheese event.
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  Speaker 1: Was very nice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I hate.
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  Speaker 1: All that garl cheese so much cheese.
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  Speaker 2: I hate the garlic man, you know those garlic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: This, yes, will have spoilers for the most recent episode,
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  Speaker 3: episode seven, I Left Behind and everything that came before.
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  Speaker 3: Samantha is my guardian and hopefully not spoiling anything else.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we've done a pretty good job, but
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  Speaker 3: it has been difficult. She has too much knowledge I do,
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  Speaker 3: and I forget. I forget sometimes. But I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we've done it pretty good. So yeah, you should be fine.
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: And yes, this is a temporary thing. We're releasing on
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: Saturdays the week after the most recent episode, and it
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  Speaker 3: is replacing my Happy Hours. But we will return to
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  Speaker 3: regular program maybe. I think at some point this one
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: content warning for I guess general sadness, violence, trauma, trauma, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I guess alcohol use.
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  Speaker 2: Potentially, especially among younger people.
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  Speaker 1: But suicide.
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  Speaker 2: It's suicide. Yeah, So yes, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Based on the DLC, the downloadable content called Left Behind,
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  Speaker 3: which I will talk about more briefly in a second.
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  Speaker 3: But if you want to know more about that, you
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  Speaker 3: can see our recent Fictional Women episode on Riley for
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  Speaker 3: more information on her portrayal in the games and comics,
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  Speaker 3: which is pretty much the same but a lot more backstory,
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  Speaker 3: I would say in that if you want it, you
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  Speaker 3: can also see our Happy Hour on the remake that
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  Speaker 3: we did kind of recently, the Last of Us Part
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  Speaker 3: one remake, and I'll talk about why that matters in
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  Speaker 3: a second. But in the meantime, Samantha, do you want
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  Speaker 3: to do your wonderful recap?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I can do this all right. So we are opening
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  Speaker 1: scene of seeing bloody I guess tracks essentially going into
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  Speaker 1: an abandoned home and where we go to all the
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: way down to the basement and realize that Joel is
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: lying there still at this time alive but barely, and
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: then in a lot of pain, bleeding out. For some
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: odd reason, Ellie keeps trying to make him press against
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: his own wounds, like he's not bleeding out, but okay, sure,
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: why not. At this point, they go back and forth
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  Speaker 1: about how to do this. He finally grabs her and says,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to go back. You gotta go north and
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  Speaker 1: find Tommy. You've got to leave, save yourself. She's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to, and then he has the strength
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  Speaker 1: to push her back, so I'm sure that gushed out
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: more blood there that is. And she kind of looks
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: at him in the shock and looks back up, and
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: then she runs up the door, hand on the door
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: to get out, and then we go to flashback. We're
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: in a flashback where she is at the QZ listening
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: to her Sony Walkman, which apparently was a thing in
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: the comics, because if you have listened to that episode
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: you will find this out as I did. And she
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: is running around in the gym. A girl comes and
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: bullies her and says, you know, oh, your protector's not here.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do about it? They end
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  Speaker 1: up fighting. She ends up getting that girl enough injury
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: that that girl has to have seventeen stitches, while you
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  Speaker 1: know Ellie has a black guy. She sits in front
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  Speaker 1: of an officer who pretty much tells her, Hey, we're
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: trying to make you an officer. You're so good at this.
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  Speaker 1: We want you to live the life because apparently it's not.
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  Speaker 1: There's like a hierarchy and if you're an officer, you
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  Speaker 1: get all the good things while everybody else doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: the good things. And so she's like, okay, I choose
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  Speaker 1: to be an officer. Flashed forward to her going to
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  Speaker 1: her room where she's in the dark room with all
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: of her posters. In her room, she pulls out a book.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: It turns out to be the first pun book. And
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: Annie does not have this copy. And it's a shame
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm disappointed in you just a little bit. Yeah,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: but it's okay, but it's okay. We turn to look
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: that the roommate is not there. Her side of the
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: room is completely empty. We have some moments of oh sad,
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: and then she goes to sleep. We know someone's crawling
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: through the window. Who could it be? And she tries
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: to cover Ellie's mouth. Ellie like jumps up, pushes her,
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  Speaker 1: kicks her, and ready to stab her. Turns out it's Riley,
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  Speaker 1: the roommate that has left, and she's been gone for
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  Speaker 1: three weeks and for all that Ellie knew was that
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  Speaker 1: she was dead at this point, but she's not. She's back,
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: and she's like, where the hell did you come from?
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: Where have you been? A little argument ensues because you know,
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: they argue apparently all the time, and then it turns
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  Speaker 1: out Riley has joined the Fireflies, which Ellie thinks is
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: a joke until Riley shows off her handgun and she's like,
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: oh my god, you really have a little small argument
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  Speaker 1: ensues because you know, Ellie's at now right now like
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  Speaker 1: she's not pro pro fedra, but she is more towards
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: Fedra than fireflies. So we have a moment or in
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  Speaker 1: exchange and all of these arguing. Riley's like, if you
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: will shut up, I've got a surprise for you. Come
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  Speaker 1: with me. Throws pants on, makes Riley turn around to
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  Speaker 1: put pants on. Right. I was like, this is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you have to always do this?
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: She's like to turn around.
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  Speaker 1: They get all their stuff, they go down the stairs.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: They're like, you know, the Federal don't know anything. And
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  Speaker 1: then I said, they're about to go exit, a Federick
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: comes by. She's like, Ellie's like, haha, see there, they
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: don't know anything, huh whatever. So they continue on. They
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: escape through a building which is so many stairs, and
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: she does the things that many of my friends too
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  Speaker 1: that I'm very upset about. When they're like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: far and then like twenty minutes later, you're like, where
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: the hell am I? You're like, you lied to me.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: But they finally go up all the stairs, come up
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  Speaker 1: to a body and they go to investigate a dead body.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: They have a conversation about seeing dead bodies before. It
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: turned out that Riley had because of her parents. There
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: we find that the dude has a very expensive bottle
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: of whiskey that he had to exchange a lot of cards.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's the currency. And then this assumption is
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: that he had taken pills and drank that did this
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: on purpose, so it's now deceased. During this time, he
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: falls to the floors. Very scary. It was a jump.
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  Speaker 2: Scary, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: We all we all went what I had a moment.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: They grabbed the whiskey, which is still fine. These young
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: underage drinking is a no no, but they drank and
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: we're like, okay, haa, let's move on. So they move
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  Speaker 1: on and they come to the roof and they have
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  Speaker 1: more conversations about how she got discovered. Turns out Marlene
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: is mentioned at this point and she was impressed with
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: how Riley was able to sneak around in the in
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  Speaker 1: the show, and so she was then asked to join.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: Then they go hopping across roofs, which was like I
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: would die because I would fall down off every immediately. Yeah,
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: then none of I'm like, these kids are courageous because
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like I would have died.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: It would have been over.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: As they continue on, they finally make it to their place,
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: which is the mall, which apparently this whole area was
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: supposed to be quarantined and shut off, but it's not.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, there's all these infected but like,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: really is there though? Hmm. And turns out that the
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: feder had turned power on over there to extend their
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: territories for more people to have apartments and such, so
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: this area has power. What rauh? So they go into
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: the area, they don't know where they're at, and then
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Riley's like, shut up. I got a surprise for you.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: If you'll go this way, go take a right, go
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: through the door. Stand there, tell me when you get there.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: All this ensus Finally Ellie's like, I'm here, and then
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: she turns the lights on it. Oh my god, it's
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: the mall. Yeah, it's the mall. She's like, oh my god,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: we're at them all. Where's that infected? All these things?
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: Won't they see? And apparently they're in a bunker essentially,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: so they can't see underground. I guess they're low enough
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: that no one can catch the lights. So she says,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: I have all these wonders for you, and we're gonna
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: call them the Five Wonders. It took me a minute.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: I had to re like, we remember where all these were,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna start off with the electric stairs or
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: the escalators, which is a cute little scene of her
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what they do and going She's like,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not moving, look at me as she goes up
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: a down escalator and then they have fun. She almost
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: does die because she almost fell off of it, and
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. So they finally come to that and
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: she's like, that's fine, Yep, I've got to four other wonders.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Let's go so they can walk down. They talk about
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: how it was looted at one point in time, and
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: of course the most important things were taken first, and
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: the unimportant things like lingerie from Victoria's Secrets. There's a
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: lot of product placement here, y'all, a lot of product placement,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: including a spirit which does that? Is that still around?
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: As I was, it would have been in like two
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: thousand and three, right, which is when that hand.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: I guess, So I guess, so I guess. So you're right.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: There was targeting spot which I think is still. There's
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: no b Dalton. Oh were they? Okay?
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: We We have a cute little scene about lingerie and
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: having eliewhere and being laughing about that because there's this
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: song which really looked uncomfortable to me as well. It's
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: like why. But then the whole time we're seeing Ellie
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: kind of trying to primp herself and look cute because
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: she'd planned all these things, and it's like, are we
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: on a date? What? And she's like, close your eyes
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  Speaker 1: and they hold. She takes he to the next part
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: the carousel, which they have a cute moment and have
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: a conversation, and then they get a little deeper into
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  Speaker 1: the conversation. They're not happy about it, like things are
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: happening about the fireflies, conversation, QZ trying to be an officer,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: all these things. What are you doing? Why are you
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  Speaker 1: doing this? It's still sweet. They move on to the
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  Speaker 1: next thing, which is the photo booth, and she has
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: a five dollar bill, which is worthless because we see
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: money everywhere. They take very faded pictures with several different poses,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: which you have said in our previous episode that you
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: can play. Yeah, these things and all the poses are
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: actually in the game. So we have that moment and
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: they come out and they go to the next big thing,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: which is the arcade Holy and she's come prepared. She's
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: been working on hours to break the coin machines so
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  Speaker 1: they can play. They play their favorite game, Mortal Kombat.
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  Speaker 1: Is very loud, he's getting loud. They're having fun, and
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  Speaker 1: then they go down to where she has a present
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: for her, and they come down and they find out
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: that that's where Riley has been sleeping. She's kind of
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: hanging out there. That's where Riley gives Ellie her the
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: second pun Book.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: YEP Volume two, Volume two to you.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, and so they start reading that off a little bit.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: They don't understand one of them because they have no
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: screensheps like, what's that really? And then you find that
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: there was bombs there, that there's homemade explosives. Riley has
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: been stationed there, and they get into another big argument
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: about you know, blowing up people. Would you do this
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: to me? This is you know, terrorism, all these things,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: talking about how bad these things could be. Why would
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: you do this? Blah blah blah. So she's about to leave,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: so she finally admits that this is the last time
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: she's going to see her. They're not going to see
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: each other because she's been reassigned to Atlanta, and so
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: she wanted to do this big thing for her, and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: she's asked if Ellie could go, but they said no.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: So all this heartbreak is happening. This was the big goodbye.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Ellie's mad, and she's like, you know what, go fine,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: and she leaves, and then of course she comes back.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: They have a more conversation. She's like, I do have
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: one more surprise for you. She leaves, but we do
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: see a second shot of one of the I guess
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the communicator zombies, which are they're stuck to the wall,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: but I guess they're able to communicate to other zombies
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: to let them know that there are people here. Oh
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: my god, there's here. So that's what we see. So
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: we're all on the edge of our seats thinking, oh,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: they're coming, They're coming. But then we also hear all
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: of a sudden screaming woman and Ellie, here's a screaming woman.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: She runs screaming Riley Riley, and she comes to a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: halloween store with one of those prop graveyards, and Riley says, surprise,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: this is your finale. I say this for last because
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I knowed you would love it. They have another big
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: conversation about her leaving and whether or not she was
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: said and I'm mad and why you would do this,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: and then they kind of make up when she sees
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the store and everybody like whatever, and turned out Riley
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: had taste stolen her walkman gotten uh. She's like, you
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: have bad taste the music and puts on the EDA James,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I got you, babe into the PA system, and they
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: put on Halloween masks, get on top of the glass
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: counter and start dancing, at which time I'm like they're
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: gonna fall and die, but they didn't. It's okay, just
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in my head, they have the best time and they're
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: having a good moment. And she takes lay the head
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: off and she's like the mask off, and she's like,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: don't go and Riley says okay, and then Ellie kisses
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Riley and it's a sweet moment and Ellie goes, I'm sorry,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and Riley's like what for? And they both smile really
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: big and she's like, what do we do now? She's like,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, And essentially they're going to talk about
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: like staying together. It's really beautiful moment. And then we
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: hear some noises. We hear those noises, and then we
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: find one clicker who was very damn fast, goes after
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: both of them. One shoots at them, one throws things
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: at them. They do the knife where and all these things.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: They finally kill them, and then we see Riley looking
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: at Ellie and Ellie going holy, that was amazing, like
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: really excited for that moment until she looks down to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: where Riley's looking down and sees that she's been bitten
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: on the arm and she has a panic attack. She's like, no, no, no, no,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: And then we look up at Riley and realize that
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Riley has been bitten on the hand. So both of
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: them are like, ohh and then Ellie loses it and
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: start busting at all the glass, screaming, angry all these things,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: knowing that this is the end. And you see Riley
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just sitting against the counter, and then Ellie comes over
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: his heads and she's like, oh my god, what are
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: we gonna do? At this point, Riley says, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: we have we have these options. We can a kill ourselves,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: b we could just be real poetic. And then she
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: was like, well, what's the third option. She's like, there's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: not one. So but I choose to different people take
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: different times. I've seen it. It could be two hours,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it could be two days, and I choose to make
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: the best of that time. So essentially, I think and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be poetic to lose our minds together
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: quote unquote, and you see them just hold on each other.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Coming back to the current moment where Ellie was about
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: to walk out the basement, she looks down, runs out
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the door to look for supplies, scrambles everywhere, looks for things,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: only comes back and has a needle and thread essentially
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and is sewing him up. She gives a nod, he
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: nods back, and we see them sewing each other up
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and it was super gross. They hold each other's hands
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and still super gross.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Oh I am well, thanks again, excellent recap.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Episode has a lot to tack about it. I just
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: recommended I think you haven't seen you should watch it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: But whatever, it does have a lot of Easter eggs,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I will say, especially like in Ellie's room and then
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: things in them all.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: They have a lot of call forwards, which is what
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I'm calling them.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: It's not a callback, it's call forward to what's to come.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So that's very fun.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: And in the like post show thing, they talk about
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: how this is a you know, what was it like
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: to be a kid in this world and what was
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: it like to skip school? So before we get into it,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: just very quickly again, see our recent episode we did
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: on Riley for Fictional Women around the World for more information.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: But this episode is based on the DLC Left Behind
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: plus the comic book American Dreams. DLC stands for downloadable content,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: so basically the game came out in twenty thirteen on
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, in twenty fourteen, they released this thing that
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: you could download that was, like i'd say too, our
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: gameplay that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You could add on, and it was more to the story.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: And I know the next day I told you, Samantha,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: but I was kind of laughing because a lot of
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: people were arguing about where this came from. They were like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: what was this? This wasn't in there, Yes it was.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: It certainly was more on that a second too. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: do want to say the gay mechanics of it are
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: very different. As I said in that Riley episode, it
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: is interspersed, it's different. The main difference I would say
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: is that it's interspersed with Ellie.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: At an abandoned mall trying to find medical supplies to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: save Joel.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: It also kind of shows you how she got him
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: to that house, and she's having these flashbacks to what
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: happened with Riley innerspurs between that. But the game mechanics,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: as I said in that Riley episode, are very different.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: They're very sweet, like you're literally playing you have like
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a water gun fights, and you choose which pose you
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: want to do in the photo booth, and you are
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: reading puns to each other and you can do that
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: at kind of any time until you run out of puns,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: which I definitely did. So it's kind of like a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: very sweet thing, but over the whole of it is
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: you know how it ends, So there's the anxiety throughout.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So I think the way they did that in this,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: even though, like if you've been paying attention, they've mentioned
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Riley several times already, is that when they show you
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the zombie in the basement against the wall, is when
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh gosh, this is not good. This is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: not going to end well. So that kind of that
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: anxiety hanging over. If you want more of Riley's backstory,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: the comic The Last of Us American Dreams has a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: lot of it. As I said, there was a big
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: backlash to this when it came out, so that was
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: one of the reasons I kind of chuckled to myself
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: even though it's not really funny the next day when
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: people were arguing about, like where did this come from?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of those people would be
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: like the so called fans who were just so mad
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: at that they didn't even play it or either ignored it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But people were mad. People were mad. Not everybody, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: there was a pretty loud, small group of people, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: very loud who were angry about it. But yeah, let's
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: talk about Riley, who this was kind of her big story.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: She has been mentioned several times in the show, in
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: the first episode, second, one, third, one, I think the
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: sixth one. Arguably, I don't think like directly, but if
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: you know who Ellie's talking about, then you're like, oh, okay, yeah.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: She is somebody who can stand up to Ellie.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: As you said, they argue a lot, and like that
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: scene where she's like telling Ellie what to do, like
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: you go up the stairs, taker right and out the
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: door and tell me when you're there, Like very strong personality,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: but it's it's very sweet. It's like the game is
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: very sweet, and this was very sweet because it's sort
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: of a innocent young love like the mall date, you know.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: You see especially as you know us who I don't know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I grew up with that, when you see like Ellie's
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: face when the lights come on, she's like teary eyed
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: because they've never seen anything like that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: She had never seen anything like that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: And Riley having this like date planned even though it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: like not really a date, but it's pretty much a date,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: like I'm going to show you like the best parts
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: of the mall, and I've planned it out.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I love that part.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: What Ellie's like, you planned things and Riley's like, it's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: just very sweet.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: It's very sweet.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Like their first kiss is very very sweet, Like you
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: can tell it's kind of their first kiss. It's sort
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: of clumsy, and then they laugh really loud, it's really hard.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: It's just really adorable.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And then when they're like playing Mortal Kombat and they
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: like are just exuberant at the chance to do this,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: which they probably had just you know, read about magazines
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and the scene had never done.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And there were so many instances.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Of that in this of like you know, Ellie's reaction
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: to the escalator and then again, yes, I think I've
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: said this in a couple episodes ago, but their reaction
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to the lingerie where they're kind of like, what were
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: people up to?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: What is this?
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: And then I mentioned also there's a poster for this,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: like I think it's called like Dawn Up the Wolf,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: which is definitely a Twilight refuff right right that it
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: was coming out and Joel in there's a lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: conversations in the game that you can miss.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: They're very easy to miss.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And one of the ones you can have is where
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Ellie looks at that poster and it's kind of like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: what is this essential says, Oh, my daughter loved it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I took her to see it and all this stuff.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: So that's sort of another connection there. I did notice
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and one of my multiple rewatches that went into kind
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: of like zooming into the zombie. Oh they infected in
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: the basement. It's like an American girl doll store or something.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's not.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that, but it's essentially that, okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And it says every story has the beginning over the
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: cross of it, like, oh, yep, okay, and then I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: do I did want to say I have the I
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: didn't buy this, but it came with something else I
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: bought that was last of us related.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But I have the polaroid of Ellie and Riley on
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: my fridge. Very very cute.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: One thing that they did differently that I don't know
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that I necessarily like it better in the game, but
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: it's a very cool thing in the game. It's a
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: big difference is in the arcade because, as I said
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: in that Riley episode, Warner Brothers owns the rights to
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Mortal Kombat, so they played Mortal Kombat. But in the game,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: it's this game called Turn the Turning and when they
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: get to the arcade, it doesn't work, and Ellie is
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: so disappointed, and Riley tells her to like close your eyes,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and it's a very beautiful sequence of Riley just describing like.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: He and sheees his knives, what are you gonna do?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And Ellie's like kick like and it you can hear
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: like the sounds in her head of what it sounds like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: and the the lights are kind of on her on
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: her face, and I think they're gonna do that. There's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: another sequence when they do that, so I think they're
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: saving it for that, but I do. I do love
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that part and the lighting. I thought the whole set
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: was really cool, and like the lighting of it was
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: really really cool. The mask that they wear, the Halloween
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: masks are exactly from the game.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and this is actually Ellie hates Halloween stuff,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: by the way, because of this, because she associates it
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: with this and you do encounter it in the games
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: a lot, because you know, Outbreak Day was the end
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: of September and so they already had their Halloween stuff out,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: but she hates it. But one of the other things
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about was this whole idea of goodbye,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: because you see Ellie really not wanting Riley to leave,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: but sort of struggling with like, well, what how do
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I get her to stay? Or should I let her go?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Or what does she want and a lot of internal thoughts.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: There's one scene on the carousel that I think is
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: super cute where you could tell she like almost reached
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: out to hold her hand and then didn't, but she's
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: trying to hold her there, and so she let's.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: She kind of.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Has this fight like, oh, you don't care about me,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: like leave whatever, I don't care I'm leaving, and then
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: she says like, I'm your best friend.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: If this is what you want, I'm gonna let you
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: do it, like I let you go, you should.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Go, And then has this moment after they're dancing of
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: like no, please stay, I ask you to stay, and
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Riley says yes, and then they say like, oh, we'll
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: figure it out together what it is, and it kind
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: of goes back to her fear of being alone, as
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: she said.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But one thing I also want to mention.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: As I've told Smith, I've recently learned in the last episode,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: they were watching this movie right and we didn't know
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: what it was.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We were just were like whatever.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But it's called The Goodbye Girl and she leaves before
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: the ending. And I haven't seen The Goodbye Girl, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: basically the plot is Richard Dreyfus's character comes into the
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: lives of this woman and her daughter, and the woman
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: has had a lot of men come and go in
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: her life, and so the girl, the Goodbye Girl, has
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: really gotten used to people not staying around and is
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: expecting this guy to leave all the time.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And she.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: In the end sort of learns like that goodbye doesn't
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: mean that's the end, or that that's it doesn't have
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to be this horrible thing, and she leaves before she
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: sees the ending of it, so that I.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Feel like that was very purposeful.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And this is one of the times where you kind
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: of see Ellie trying to say goodbye but then having
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that fear of being alone. And then also this is
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: like her first crush, like this is the one person
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: she has. She's very isolated, and she doesn't want to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: let this person go, and she asked her to stay,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: and Rally.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Says yes, and then of course, because it's the.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Last of us, I can't have nice things.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: You can't, you can't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: They both get bitten, and then we get to see
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: the difference between how Ellie reacts, which, in the words
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: of Craignizing, the showrunner, is very dark and violent and angry,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: versus how Riley reacts. And he says, that's because you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Riley has experienced loss and Ellie hasn't at this point,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: or at least not to a degree where she can
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: really remember.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: And so because really, I mean, she talked.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: About like what happened with her parents and this feeling
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of belonging wanting that back, and then you know, you
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: see them talk it through and like every second counts
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: and if I can be with you, I want to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: be with you as long as I can be, Because
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: if you think about it, that was a big question
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: people had when we knew we had like Riley's name,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: and we knew they got bitten at the same time
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: in the first game. But they were like, well, so
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: why didn't they die or like why.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What how would this come about? Right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And so the answer is that they have this like
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: packed where we're going to stay together as long as possible,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: but that they both thought they were going to die,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: like when they would have no reason not to think that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: And I guess that's another thing where I almost asked you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: About this before.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: But apparently some people are arguing about whether or not
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Riley dies.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Really she did?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well she says it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, she said it in the first episode.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the very first episode.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, But I guess some people don't pick up on it, but.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I know I was.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, literally like, well now do I what
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: do I do? But no, she dies, She's dead?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: She did, Like, sorry, she really did.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: They said it in the first episode.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they like when she in six when
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Ellie's like, I've lost people too, that's she was talking
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: about Riley. And Riley does hangover all of the show,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: so's not that's not the end of her. But it
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: is certainly, like I said, that building of tension, because
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: when you're playing it, you know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: That that's how it ends. It was very very moving.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: It was very very sad Samantha had to get us tissues,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: me and my friend Katie. I think it was sadder
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: than the game because in the game, it's less it's
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the same conversation, but they're more like tired. They're kind
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: of more like, well, here's what we do. And it
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: does cut away before you see them die, which it
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: did in the show, but in the show it was
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: just kind of I think they they made it more emotional.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: So Riley's death does hang over Elliott. It has shaped
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: her worldview. It is this treumatic event or somebody she
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: cared for, had this crush on, maybe loved died and
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: they thought they were going to die together and she
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: they didn't. Because Ellie survives this whole thing, and so
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: this is part of her survivor's guilt where every time
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: someone she loves dies, and even not even someone she loves,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: every time somebody dies, she has a guilt about it
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: because she didn't. So you see that with Joel after
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: she flashes back to what is going on because she
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: is opening door and she's thinking about leaving it, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: she's remembering what Riley did for her and how Riley
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: stayed there and didn't let her die or kill herself,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: like held her hand, and so she's remembering all of that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: But it is like one of the.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Biggest shaping events for Ellie something that she just just
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: hangs over and like, like I said, when you plays her,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: you look in the backpack and she just has all
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: of these like she still has the Firefight London, she
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: has the pun Book, she has all these things. You know,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: it hasn't been that long at this point, like maybe
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a couple of months, but I did want to shout
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: out storm Read who nailed that performance amazing.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Was so good.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, and like honestly like she made it her own,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: but was exactly like the characterization in the game, so good.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: And she's already spoken out about like the review bombing
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the response, and it's been like, I back up what
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Bella Ramsey said. If that's what you're worried about, you
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: need to straighten up your priorities. Yes, agreed, Yeah, uh huh.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Something else I wanted to touch on briefly is I
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: think and I'm gonna have a lot of thoughts about
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: this in the last episode that we do, but they
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: are they're definitely setting up fedro versus Five Flies in
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: a way that they did it in the game, or
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: at least not as in depth because that was always there,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: but they've they've really built it up and that's all
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: we'll say. And also, I did I think they had
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: that kind of chilling comparison to Kansas City when Riley's like,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: when if we, you know, free this place and we
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: take over, it'd be so much better. And then we
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: saw what happened in Kansas City when that happened, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: that that you know, that's not necessarily to say that
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: would have happened here, but it was kind of I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: think a chilling pointed comparison. Something else I wanted to
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: talk about, and I'm going to talk about very briefly
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: too because no spoilers, but I will say I didn't
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: mention this in the last one, but Joel's injury. He
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: falls on a pipe and gets stamped through, and it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: a really cool scene where.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's very upsetting, but it's.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Very cool where Ellie's like taking charge and having to
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  Speaker 3: lead him out and he's kind of passing out, so
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: it's a different injury. Also, Joel's anxiety medication. I didn't
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: know this, but they added that into the remake so
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you can see it before the pandemic, before the outbreak.
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  Speaker 3: It's on his bedside table, So I guess they kind
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  Speaker 3: of did that as a nod as to.
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  Speaker 2: What was coming.
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  Speaker 3: But there's been a lot of articles about it about like, oh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: this is exactly like that's how anxiety feels to me,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: kind of like your heart stopping, it hit suddenly whenever,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: and all this stuff. So that's interesting. As I mentioned
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  Speaker 3: in our recent Daddy episode, there's also been a lot
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: of articles about single parent based on this and something
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: we'll have to come back to that. I have seen
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff written lately about Bella Ramsay's comments
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  Speaker 3: about chest binding, because I think she said she spent
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: ninety percent of this with chest binding filming, and she
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: was talking about like how you need to do.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: That safely and all that stuff. But there's been a
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  Speaker 2: lot of conversation about that.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so what is to com And honestly, this one's
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: I'm no spoilers here, even if you've seen the trailer,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I want to tell you scary stuff is coming. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: think it's the scariest part of the game, but that's
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: up for interpretation as always and debates. I was wondering
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: if they're going to put the infamous rabbit scene in there,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: and I don't think they are.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I don't think they are.
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  Speaker 1: We were waiting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they can. I've thought about it, of
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: course I have.
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  Speaker 3: Well, technically I'm trying to figure out how they would
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone who doesn't know it's like what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: This as an insight, yes between us, not not y'all
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: who have not seen what's going on. I don't know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I think they still have time. That's technically we don't
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: know how Joel is doing and they're going to be
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: in that.
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  Speaker 3: Uh no, I mean stuck for a while. I agree,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: but I don't know. I'm just I'm not sure how
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: they pull it off.
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  Speaker 1: With effect see it, but I see I see what
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you're saying now, Okay, glicious, Okay, like strategically on Oh yeah, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: If they can do it, they did it. Oh man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about that. Everyone's like, what
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: is going on? There are only two episodes left?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Can you believe it?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Who?
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  Speaker 3: I hope it's always that you're enjoying this, whether you
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: have seen the show or not, whether you've played.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The game or not.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: And yeah, we love hearing your thoughts about it. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: am excited for the next couple of episodes.
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