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Denise Moore & Cindy Hinkle | Athletes of the 2024 Legends Masters CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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Chill, chill, ay, ay, chill,
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let's go I was born a killer,
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I was meant to win I am
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down and willing so I will
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find a way It took a minute,
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now it didn't happen right
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away When it get hot in the kitchen,
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you decide to stay That's
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how it winters me Stick a
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fork in the heater on my dinner plate
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What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast,
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where we are highlighting
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the athletes of the 2024
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Legends Masters CrossFit Games.
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And on this show,
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you get two for the price of one.
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And everybody loves a BOGO.
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So we have Sandra Hinkle and Denise Moore.
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What's going on, ladies?
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Hello.
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Hi.
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How are you?
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It's wonderful to talk to you.
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Yeah, good to see you again.
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Denise has been stalking our
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chats and giving great
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information in those,
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and we love her for that.
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Cindy,
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I actually met both of you at the
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exact same time.
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Right.
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You guys were standing in
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line at the check-in of
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Legends last year and got
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to meet you guys there.
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That was a fun interview.
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Yeah, that was good.
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Yeah,
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and what I learned in that interview
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is you guys are very good friends,
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but you are polar opposites
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when it comes to workouts.
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Kind of, yeah.
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You're more strength and I'm
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more gymnastics type.
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She's very gymnastic-y.
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So if people did not see the
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check-in interview from Legends last year,
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I asked them what are they
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most looking forward to
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on the weekend and Denise
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said a barbell and Cindy said gymnastics.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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So how do two ladies who are
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polar opposites end up
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becoming such close friends
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and training partners?
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Oh, my God.
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I think that we just she
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forces me to do barbell
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stuff and then I force her
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to do more gymnastic stuff.
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And then I'll help her with that.
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And she'll help me with the barbell stuff.
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So, yeah, I'm actually scared of her.
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She basically, two weeks ago,
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I was working on handstand walk.
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And my coach, who's the owner of the gym,
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Matt, he was helping with handstand walk.
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And she came over because
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she was working out in the class.
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And she looks at me and gives me a drill.
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She goes, come on, let's try harder.
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And I was like, oh, my God, okay.
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I think I said just be aggressive.
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Be aggressive.
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So step back here.
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Denise,
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you're in the 65 plus division and
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you're working on handstand walks.
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I'm trying.
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How?
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I don't care.
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You're doing, you're trying it.
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That is so freaking cool.
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Thank you.
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I just learned the pegboard
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like two Fridays ago.
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I had never done it before
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and I tried the pegboard and I was like,
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hey, this isn't too bad.
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What CrossFit is doing to
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flip the idea of age on its
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head is so awesome.
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Yeah.
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I mean, just,
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it was probably five years
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ago when Denise was kicking
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up to a handstand against
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the wall and could not do a
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handstand pushup.
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Like you did maybe one handstand pushup
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every two minutes.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And now she's great at them
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and starting handstand walks.
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I mean,
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and you started to handstand pushups,
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you were probably 60.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then, uh, during, uh,
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I think it was a qualifier.
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You were like doing a hang
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clean and you did like 185 pounds.
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Oh yeah, that's right.
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Hand clean.
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And she's like,
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I just hang clean my husband.
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Yeah.
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um so how did you two meet
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like how did this all come
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together well we met at the
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gym that we're still at
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sorry 10 years ago yes when
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you first came yeah because
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I've been at the same gym
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uh resolution crossfit for
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14 years over 14 years
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I've always been there, started in 2010.
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They affiliated in like December of 2009.
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And then you came when?
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2012.
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So, yeah, so two years later.
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She was very gymnastic-y.
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And so I was always like a
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little intimidated by her.
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But I wasn't really into
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CrossFit at that time.
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But around 2019...
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We had another person that
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wanted to do an online
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qualifier for Legends.
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I think.
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Yeah.
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Or was it Wadapalooza?
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No, that was Wadapalooza was 2020.
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We did.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So it was Legends.
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Yeah.
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It was Legends for 2019.
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And we were like, all right,
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we'll help this person, you know,
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do the online qualifier.
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We'll do it with her.
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And yeah.
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You know how qualifiers are,
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online qualifiers.
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You have to video everything.
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It's a big production.
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It's a big production.
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And we kind of just clicked,
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and we both made it to the
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Legends in 2019,
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where it was down in Carlsbad.
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So, and then you won your division, right?
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And I won my division and no,
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no looking back.
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Yeah.
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That was a fun one.
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That was very small compared
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to how they are now.
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Yeah.
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So was 2019 like the start
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of your competitive career?
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Definitely for me.
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Yeah.
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Me too.
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Yeah.
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I mean, we always did the open.
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I've done the open for years.
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Oh, God, 12 years.
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Yeah.
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And then we would do the
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online qualifier for the games.
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But back then we both
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weren't quite good enough to make it.
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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the year that I could have been top
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20 was the year they cut it to 10.
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And it was, you know,
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so I never I was never
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quite good enough to go to the games.
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So we would just do the open
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and then we do the master's
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online qualifier.
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So what switch flipped that
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you did become good enough?
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Or was it just all that work
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finally paid off?
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Well,
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I think when I bumped up into the
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50-year-old division...
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The 49-year-old division was
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very competitive for me.
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And then so when I bumped up into the 50,
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I feel like a lot of things
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came together and I got
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better at some things and
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it was enough to bump me up.
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So right,
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it was 2020 was the first year
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when they bumped it down to 10 people.
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And that's the first year I
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made it to the games.
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But that was also COVID year
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and they cut us.
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So it was my first year qualifying,
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but I couldn't go.
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So this is your third year
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going to the games,
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but it should be your fourth.
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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I've qualified four times and gone.
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This will be my third time.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And are you the,
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are you the oldest in the 50 to 54?
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Yeah, actually I turned 55 next week.
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So I will be 55 competing
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with the 50 to 54 year olds,
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just based on where the
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time that cutoff is for my,
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for the birthdays.
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So I will definitely be the
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oldest one in my age group.
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Okay.
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Yeah, my co-host Amy on our Tuesday show,
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her birthday is actually
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like the day after the cutoff.
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Like the day after.
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Yeah.
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Which means she is the
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oldest young person in whatever, you know,
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when she gets up there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and I'm the next to the youngest.
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I think Patti McGill is six
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months younger than I am
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because my birthday is October.
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Okay.
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So, so for Cindy, this is the,
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this isn't okay.
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Expectations because you are
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the oldest in your division.
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Do you pull those back a
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little bit this year?
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Yes.
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My expectations aren't,
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I'm going to work really hard.
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I'll do my best.
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But I say, if I make top 10,
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I'd be really happy.
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Cause I don't think I would
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make top 10 because there's
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at least 10 girls that are really,
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really good.
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But on the flip side,
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next year is when you push.
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Yes.
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Next year I'll be the youngest.
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Oh yes.
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And by legends in December,
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I will be bumped up to the
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55 category just because of
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how their timeframe works.
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So that would be my first
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one in that next age group.
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So Denise, you're newly into 65 plus.
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Right.
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Well, technically October.
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And this is, this is your year to push.
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Uh, yeah, supposed to calm down.
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Don't get too excited.
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Well, no, I'm like,
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at this point I'm like super tired.
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We, we just ran this morning.
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We ran a three mile hill run trail.
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with vests on.
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And so we're just sitting there going,
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oh my God, I am so tired right now.
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We did not stop.
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And there's some really steep hills.
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That was our goal.
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And both of us did not stop.
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And that's the first time we
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haven't stopped on those hills.
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So we're tired today.
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You're freaking just at the right time.
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I'll try it.
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And the funny is that it's
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hard for me to push her.
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Because there's 11 years
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difference between the two of us.
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I think the only thing I
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push her on really is deadlift.
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I can deadlift more than she does.
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But other than that,
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she can clean and... Oh, Shannon.
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Hi, Shannon.
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Hi, Shannon.
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Shannon Schlafer says,
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Cindy and Denise are sweet
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as they are fit.
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Great girls.
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Oh, it's a great...
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all thank you and lee
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frazier great job ladies so
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uh last off was it october
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shannon and shannon and um
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oh my god that's my my
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brain this is what happens
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when you become 65 years
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old right you lose people's
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uh names anyway
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I'm going to be really
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embarrassed that I forgot her name,
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but they came out to California.
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Debbie, Debbie Corwin.
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Oh, my God.
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They created a team.
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There you go.
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Thank you, Chan.
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They had a team,
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and we competed in the city
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of the industry.
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I forget what competition it was,
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but it was two teams.
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And it was so fun to compete against them.
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And it was right before legends.
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It was a great lead up to legends.
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And so we were on a team
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that's some of the pictures we posted and,
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um,
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Shannon and Debbie were on a team.
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Of course, they kicked our butts.
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But we're the only two teams
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in our age group.
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I think we're the oldest age group, right?
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It was like 50 and over.
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Yeah, that was fun.
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We had a good time.
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Our ages had to add up to 110.
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Yes.
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And ours was like 119 or
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something like that.
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So Lee says, I'm about to turn 61.
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I'm not very fit, but I'm working on it.
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I plan to have a 65 and a 70.
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Nice.
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Perfect.
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So you said that you can't
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push Cindy much in the gym
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other than on deadlift,
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but there's something that
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helps you become training partners.
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And is it more the
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friendship and the support
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and the encouragement or
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Yeah,
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it's probably making sure we get in
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there all the time.
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Like even during COVID,
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when we couldn't see each other,
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Denise would video zoom me
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and I would be in my garage.
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And during COVID,
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that's the only times that
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I actually would finish a
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workout was because I was
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zooming with Denise at the same time.
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And so we would push each
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other when we were doing that.
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But that's a good example of, I mean,
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I wouldn't do it if you
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hadn't made me zoom.
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Yeah.
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I think it's something that
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we have the same goals.
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When you share the same goals with someone,
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it's just a matter of
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having yourself in that environment.
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She has two sisters.
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I have two sisters.
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I kind of look at her as my little sister.
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Like when we travel,
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I feel like I take care of
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her like a little sister.
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She does take care of me.
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If I forget something,
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Denise always has it.
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She's like, here you go.
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But it's something because
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I'm the youngest in my family.
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And I love my sisters.
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We get along wonderfully.
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And her sisters are amazing.
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There's something I feel
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like I have a little sister now.
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And just having someone else
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share the same goal you do
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is very motivating.
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And when you're both working
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really hard and say in 2021
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was the first year we both
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made it to the games.
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And for both of us to make
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it like after all that,
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I just couldn't believe I was like,
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we are both going.
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I cannot believe it.
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And that was so fun.
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And that was our first time.
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And we got to go together to the games.
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It was like, it was crazy.
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Do you travel together when
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you go to competitions?
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So really, you guys are family now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, basically.
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We have very similar likes, dislikes.
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It's just that we can look
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at each other and go, yeah,
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and have that conversation
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just with our eyes,
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like have a whole conversation.
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We know what you're thinking.
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Yes.
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When we were sitting next to
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each other this morning on
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our little mats,
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because we were doing VFs,
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of course I did 15 VFs, she did 25.
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She did 25 VFs in the amount
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of time that I could do 15.
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So I was like, oh my God, I really suck.
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But I look over to her and she's like,
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I know she's like,
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I don't want to do this anymore.
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So funny.
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But what's really nice is, oh,
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You guys are so close to
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even have a combined shirt.
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Oh, we do, yes.
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Our gym is helping us raise
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money and created that shirt for us.
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Think of more ticket.
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Yeah,
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think of us as a political ticket there.
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I would say we're conservative,
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but we're very open-minded.
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Yeah.
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It looks awesome, just so you know.
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I love the way it looks.
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Thanks.
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What's nice is, too,
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she's a coach at the gym.
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So she's very knowledgeable.
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You have your L1.
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You're taking your L2.
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Yeah, a couple months.
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A couple months.
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I, unfortunately,
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am stuck in a 9-to-5 job
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right now until I retire.
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But then I'll take my L1.
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But what's nice about this year is our –
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owner of the gym, who is my coach,
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is coming to the games with us.
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He's going to be my coach there.
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He'll probably coach me too.
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How many people are you taking?
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My sister's going with me
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and she's actually going to
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be my official coach.
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She's staying with us also.
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Anybody in the crowd?
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I leave,
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I leave my cat to my husband at home.
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That's okay.
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Are they going to be watching the stream?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We'll make sure everyone
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knows where to watch the stream.
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How cool is it that you guys
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get Sean Woodland calling?
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Oh my gosh.
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That's amazing.
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There, when he was there, uh,
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2022 in San Diego, uh,
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with Bill Grundler, I can't say his name,
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and Annie Sakamoto.
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Those three were just so amazing.
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They were so open to
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everybody coming up and talking to them.
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They were staying in the
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same hotel that we,
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most of everyone stayed at
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the hotel that were there
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in San Diego near the venue
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and just amazing people.
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just for him to yell out
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your name about something
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on the floor is going to be,
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it would become my ringtone.
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I made a post about it.
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It's on there.
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They,
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they were very complimentary on your
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clean.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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There was a Viore moment
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because Viore was their sponsor.
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And all three of them were
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talking about the win.
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I think I did like a 150 clean.
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Something like that.
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It was just really nice to
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just hear them say my name.
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So to have Sean back there
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again at Legends, I mean, at the games,
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it's a dream come true for us.
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Yeah.
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For most of the masters.
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You get Sean, Chase, Tommy,
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and Lauren doing it.
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Yeah.
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Pretty, pretty awesome.
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I think isn't Chase.
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You said Chase too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He did say Chase.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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It's fun.
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Yeah.
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That's, that's like the A-team.
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Yeah.
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We get the 18 this year.
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It's great.
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Yeah.
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So, um, and you're doing now,
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what are you doing?
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You doing about behind the scenes?
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We are.
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That's amazing too.
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Yeah.
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We're gonna, yeah,
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we're going to just hang out in the back.
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Uh, Ellie Hiller and myself, um,
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just capturing
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conversations you guys are having.
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Um,
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really like we want to just
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be flies on the wall just
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you guys interacting and
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talking and kind of
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capturing all that back
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there I'm sure we'll talk
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as well but um and then
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we're gonna have a couple
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videographers out front
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capturing stuff on the
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floor and put that together
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in a behind the scenes just
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like savon does with uh
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elite division okay nice
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that's that's the plan um I think there's
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Go ahead.
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I'm sorry.
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My vision for it is to
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highlight the community of
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the Masters Division.
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Whenever I'm there,
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you guys are the friendliest.
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You're so easy to talk to.
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You guys hang out together
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even though you're competitors.
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You support each other.
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So I told my videographers,
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the workout stuff's great.
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I want high fives.
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I want hugs.
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I want support.
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I want screaming for each other.
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That's the stuff I want from the floor.
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That's wonderful, Scott.
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Yeah.
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We appreciate it.
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That'll be very fun to watch.
20:40
Yeah.
20:40
Yeah.
20:41
So that's what we're looking
20:42
at doing for that.
20:44
And I, you,
20:45
of course you too will be a part of that.
20:47
We will, we will grab you as you're,
20:51
as you're working out and
20:52
warming up and doing all those things.
20:56
I, I'm usually pretty silly behind.
21:01
I'm like, yeah,
21:05
I'm always cracking a joke or something.
21:10
Try to keep it light because
21:12
otherwise you get too nervous.
21:15
I think the only serious one
21:18
I would be super serious on
21:21
would be whatever the lift we do.
21:25
Yeah.
21:26
I wonder if they're going to
21:27
release any of the workouts
21:28
before you guys get there.
21:29
Cause they have,
21:29
we've heard nothing from the masters,
21:32
but usually they give us like one or two,
21:34
even in legends, right?
21:37
The week before it won't be for, yeah,
21:39
it'll be a little bit later.
21:41
Yeah.
21:42
Legends lecture.
21:42
We didn't know anything
21:43
until that athlete brief on
21:45
Wednesday night.
21:49
Well, I did send an email to Joe asking,
21:54
there were a couple of
21:55
things because when I saw
21:56
that there was a post that
22:00
said that athletes for the
22:02
individuals had to find
22:03
their own way to the venue.
22:06
Like they didn't get like a bus.
22:10
For the swim.
22:10
They had to provide their
22:12
own transportation to get to the swim.
22:14
Did you hear that?
22:15
Yep.
22:16
Okay, so I'm like, well,
22:18
I'm panicking because we
22:19
don't have a car because
22:21
we're staying at the venue.
22:23
So I sent Joe an email.
22:25
I said, hey, listen,
22:29
we need to know whether we
22:30
need to rent a car for any
22:34
off-site venues,
22:37
thinking like swimming or
22:39
running or whatever.
22:40
And then the other thing is I said,
22:43
I need to know whether to
22:44
pack my bathing suit because
22:47
I need to know if I'm going
22:49
to drown or not.
22:50
And so I got a really, I don't know,
22:53
a general email back saying
22:58
for any offsite venues,
23:02
we'll have a transportation
23:04
system and you will have
23:07
everything you need at check-in.
23:10
Like, okay.
23:11
Yeah.
23:11
He did say, if there's a swim,
23:13
you will get everything you need.
23:15
So we still don't know if
23:16
we're swimming or not.
23:17
Yes.
23:17
We'll know at check-in.
23:20
Very well-written response
23:21
to not like anything.
23:24
So I'm like, all right, Joe.
23:25
Yeah.
23:26
Thanks.
23:27
But we met Joe and Bob back in 2019,
23:30
and we've always really
23:33
been big supporters of what they do.
23:36
And even back then,
23:37
they said they wanted to
23:39
treat the masters correctly,
23:42
treat them right,
23:43
give them a competition
23:44
that they'll enjoy and that
23:49
will test their abilities.
23:54
i know like denise you
23:55
balance a full-time job uh
23:58
you work in i.t correct yes
24:01
kind of yeah cindy do you
24:05
do anything to for work
24:07
well I'm a co I'm a coach
24:09
at our gym so I coach and I
24:11
have two girls so I'm for
24:13
some reason very very busy yeah
24:17
And they're teenagers, correct?
24:18
They're teenagers, yes.
24:19
Yeah,
24:21
my oldest is actually going to school
24:23
in Toronto.
24:25
And I have to fly her there
24:27
because it's her first time there.
24:28
And I have to move her into
24:29
the dorm the weekend before
24:31
we go to the game.
24:32
So I'll be flying with my
24:34
daughter on Thursday to Toronto.
24:37
staying in Toronto till the
24:38
following Monday,
24:40
flying home on Monday and Tuesday morning,
24:43
getting on the plane to go to Birmingham.
24:48
So I'm always juggling
24:50
family and trying to train and just,
24:54
I can't train as much as I want to,
24:56
but that's okay because I
24:57
don't mind doing stuff for my family.
25:00
Did you used to work in marketing?
25:02
I did.
25:02
I worked at an ad agency.
25:03
Well,
25:04
several ad agencies until I had kids.
25:07
And then working at an ad
25:08
agency was just too many
25:10
hours for me to take care
25:12
of the kids also.
25:13
And my husband's job was more demanding.
25:16
So he didn't have any flexibility.
25:18
So we needed someone in the
25:19
family with flexibility.
25:21
And I couldn't do that
25:22
working in advertising anymore.
25:23
And coaching fit the bill to
25:26
make your own hours.
25:27
Yes.
25:28
Well, I stayed at home for a little while.
25:30
And then when I started doing CrossFit,
25:33
I loved it so much.
25:34
And the owners asked me if I
25:36
wanted to coach.
25:36
And I said, yes, that sounds amazing.
25:40
So,
25:40
and I'm sorry that I'm asking Cindy a
25:42
lot of questions.
25:42
I've talked to Denise for a half an hour.
25:44
So I know a lot about her
25:46
stuff on another interview, but...
25:49
You went all over the place.
25:51
You were born in Canada.
25:52
I was.
25:55
I was born in Canada.
25:56
Then I was raised in Texas.
25:59
I went to school in Texas, Texas A&M.
26:02
And then I met my husband in
26:03
Texas and we moved to
26:05
Florida where we lived for 10 years.
26:07
And then from Florida,
26:08
we moved to California
26:10
where we've lived for 12 years.
26:12
So we've been, I've been all over.
26:16
So you have a big frequent flyer account?
26:19
Yeah, I do.
26:20
My daughter flies free with
26:22
me every time I fly because
26:23
I always try to use Southwest.
26:26
They have companion pass.
26:28
Whenever we go anywhere,
26:29
I have to fly Southwest.
26:30
I know.
26:30
I force her to fly Southwest
26:32
because I have all the miles.
26:33
I don't want to pay for anything.
26:37
I'm going to admit something
26:39
here on the air.
26:40
I have hated Southwest
26:42
because I hate the cattle
26:43
call to go on the plane,
26:47
but I heard they're getting rid of it.
26:49
They are January.
26:50
There's there, you're assigned seats.
26:53
Once you learn how to do the
26:54
cattle call and you get really good at it,
26:56
you always get the seat you want,
26:57
but you just have to be on top of it.
26:59
You have to know what to do.
27:00
And then plus I'm a list too.
27:01
So I automatically get first on the plane.
27:04
So I get to pick my seat.
27:06
Wow.
27:07
I never, ever get,
27:08
I think I'm on top of it,
27:11
but there's people that
27:12
like I go the minute I can
27:14
and I still can't get in a, a group.
27:18
Yeah.
27:20
I've done it.
27:22
I'm actually starting to use,
27:23
just use Southwest anyway, because I,
27:26
I flew up to Reno by myself
27:29
and I ended up with Southwest.
27:31
Okay.
27:31
Yeah.
27:33
Yeah.
27:33
But now that they're assigning seats,
27:36
I may, I may start flying them again.
27:39
Someone was talking about,
27:40
there was a lot of people
27:42
that could use that were
27:44
using wheelchairs and get
27:47
on the plane in the beginning.
27:49
And then they're
27:50
miraculously fixed because
27:53
they don't need a
27:54
wheelchair when they get
27:55
off the plane at their destination.
27:58
It's like 25 people need
27:59
wheelchairs to get on.
28:00
So they get on early before everybody else,
28:03
but two need to be picked up at the end.
28:05
Yeah.
28:07
I have so many gripes about
28:08
the airline industry.
28:09
I think they should charge
28:10
for carry-on and not for
28:12
checked because then there
28:14
would be plenty of room for
28:16
you to put your bag on the plane.
28:18
Yeah.
28:19
That's a good point.
28:21
Yeah.
28:22
Everybody charges for checked.
28:24
So then everybody's trying
28:26
to fit their crap on the
28:28
check-in or on the carry-on
28:31
and it doesn't ever fit.
28:32
And then the people in the
28:32
back can never get any carry-on space.
28:37
Well, that's spirit.
28:38
Like my husband flew spirit
28:40
to Vegas and it was like, Oh,
28:42
here's a cheap flight.
28:43
And then when he's like, Oh,
28:44
I'm going to bring my golf clubs.
28:46
Oh sir.
28:46
That's $40.
28:48
And then your bags, $40.
28:49
And he's like,
28:51
but if you fly Southwest two bags free.
28:53
Yeah.
28:55
They let you check in for free every time.
28:57
Yeah.
28:58
I'm a Delta guy.
29:01
I'm a Delta guy and,
29:02
and I don't mind paying for a bag or two,
29:04
but, um,
29:05
and I just want to know what my
29:06
seat is well ahead of time.
29:08
Cause I'm a Clydesdale and I need my,
29:10
I need some room.
29:12
I need some elbow room.
29:14
Yeah.
29:15
Um, and yeah, even with that,
29:17
I flew from LA to Columbus
29:20
overnight one time in the middle seat.
29:22
I wanted to die.
29:23
Oh no, that's torture.
29:25
Yeah.
29:26
My back would be out.
29:28
Oh, so bad.
29:29
Well,
29:31
So how's training been going
29:32
up to the games?
29:33
You guys ready?
29:35
I think so.
29:36
We're getting there.
29:37
So I think I like right now we're,
29:39
we're doing pretty good.
29:40
Um, I went to Canada for a couple of weeks,
29:44
a few weeks ago,
29:45
and that put a little damper on it,
29:47
but I'm back in and now
29:49
we're running more, um,
29:51
doing those trails.
29:52
Um, so I feel much better.
29:53
Yeah.
29:55
Are you, do you have a,
29:56
you keep talking about running trails.
29:58
Do you think you're going
29:59
offsite on a trail run?
30:02
Possibly.
30:03
I think it helps our fitness in general.
30:07
Yeah.
30:09
I feel like if you work that
30:10
cardio and you do running
30:11
and sprints and stuff,
30:12
that's going to kind of
30:14
translate to any other
30:15
workout as far as your stamina.
30:20
Yeah.
30:21
I know when Morning Chalk Up
30:23
released that the games
30:24
were going to Birmingham,
30:25
one of the attractions was
30:26
that there were trails
30:28
right beside the venue.
30:30
So that's why I was leaning
30:32
to see if you'd heard.
30:33
I hope those are in the
30:34
morning or evening.
30:35
Yeah.
30:38
It's going, it's, it's that wet, humid,
30:41
hot.
30:42
That's just awful.
30:44
Well,
30:44
it was hot here this morning when we were,
30:47
we were,
30:48
it took us a half hour to
30:49
actually cool down.
30:52
Yeah.
30:53
It's been hot here, but we, yeah.
30:54
And we get a little bit of
30:55
humidity when I lived in Florida.
30:57
It was like that hot is different.
31:00
yeah florida is like
31:01
suffocating I lived in
31:04
tallahassee the armpit of
31:05
florida and uh and it was
31:08
like an armpit it was hot
31:09
and sweaty and sticky and
31:12
yeah just uh yeah who wants
31:15
to live in tallahassee I
31:18
mean is it is the living
31:22
cost of living low
31:24
It was pretty low,
31:24
but the reason everything's
31:26
low because the wages are
31:28
low because it's all
31:31
college students and retirees.
31:33
So they're willing to work
31:34
for less money than a,
31:36
than a normal person.
31:37
But I worked for the state
31:38
of Florida and that's their capital.
31:40
Okay.
31:41
Yeah.
31:42
So I got a job with them and
31:44
that's why I live there.
31:47
And other than the heat,
31:48
I actually liked the town.
31:52
Yeah, it's more like a college town,
31:53
right?
31:54
So lots of things to do.
31:55
Florida State and Florida
31:57
A&M are both there.
31:59
And it's only like 110,000 population.
32:02
It's easy to get around.
32:03
So you didn't have traffic issues.
32:08
But Kathy Wirth cannot wait
32:10
to show you what he's done in person.
32:12
That's my sister.
32:12
That's my sister.
32:13
She's meeting us there on Friday.
32:16
She's my coach.
32:17
Where's she coming from?
32:19
From Dallas.
32:20
She was hoping that we were
32:22
going to be in Fort Worth also,
32:24
which would have been great.
32:27
Does she cross?
32:29
Yes, she CrossFits also not as much.
32:31
And when she comes in town to visit,
32:35
she'll always come to CrossFit with me.
32:37
And I have another sister
32:38
who actually introduced me to CrossFit.
32:40
She's in Seattle.
32:42
Her name's Susie.
32:43
I didn't know Susie introduced you.
32:45
Yes,
32:45
because I had never heard of CrossFit.
32:47
And Susie was doing CrossFit
32:49
at one of her friend's.
32:52
uh garage and she says oh we
32:54
love it so when I went to
32:57
visit in seattle it was
32:58
probably I mean like 15 20
33:02
years ago right when they
33:04
started probably we went to
33:06
the garage with um I went
33:08
to the garage and we did a
33:10
crossfit workout
33:12
And I really wasn't very good at the time,
33:14
but I really did like it.
33:16
I remember we had to put,
33:18
I could not do it at all.
33:19
We had to put a hundred
33:20
pound barbell on our back
33:21
rack and just walk with it.
33:23
And I was like, I can't do this.
33:25
I can't put a hundred pounds.
33:26
I couldn't put a hundred
33:27
pound barbell on my back.
33:28
My sister had to take it for me.
33:31
Wow.
33:31
But yeah,
33:31
that was the first time I had
33:32
done a CrossFit workout was with Susie.
33:35
A hundred pounds is a lot.
33:37
I mean, I've done,
33:38
I've done like the Easter
33:40
wad where you just put a barbell,
33:41
empty barbell on your back
33:43
and do like four hundreds.
33:45
And that, that gets to be too much for me.
33:47
And I'm a big guy and I can
33:48
squat a lot of weight, but that is not.
33:50
Yeah.
33:52
I mean, it really hurt me.
33:53
I couldn't really do it.
33:54
Susie had to take it for me.
33:56
Yeah.
33:57
Wow.
33:58
Now is your introduction.
34:01
That was my introduction.
34:02
Yeah.
34:02
Yeah.
34:03
What was it like when you
34:04
first came to resolution CrossFit though?
34:07
I mean, so when I first went to Resolution,
34:10
so I had a gymnastics
34:11
background and I would go
34:13
to the other gyms, right?
34:15
And I would go do their
34:16
kickboxing classes and other classes,
34:19
but they ended up changing
34:21
those all to like Zumba.
34:23
I'd walk in, they're like, no,
34:23
it's not boxing anymore, it's Zumba.
34:25
And I was like, I can't, this is just,
34:27
I can't do Zumba.
34:28
So-
34:29
There was a CrossFit, our CrossFit,
34:31
that I would walk by every
34:32
time because the fitness
34:34
place and LA Fitness, I mean,
34:38
and Resolution CrossFit
34:39
were within walking distance of my house.
34:42
So I'd walk by the CrossFit.
34:44
And so I said, you know what?
34:45
I'm just going to go try
34:46
this CrossFit instead of doing the Zumba.
34:50
So I went there.
34:51
I never picked up a barbell.
34:53
So I actually enjoyed the
34:55
gymnastics part of it,
34:56
like the pull-ups and stuff.
34:58
Um, but I picked up the barbell and I,
35:00
I couldn't get into a front rack.
35:02
I couldn't do an overhead squat,
35:04
but I eventually, um,
35:06
just kept working on it.
35:09
And you fell in love.
35:11
Yes, I did.
35:12
Yeah.
35:12
Once I got better at the barbell,
35:13
then everything was kind of,
35:15
kind of went into place.
35:17
Yeah.
35:18
And I felt much better.
35:18
I think honestly, she is a, um,
35:23
attribute to someone had had
35:27
a gymnastic background fit
35:30
she was very fit because
35:32
when she first came we were
35:33
all looking at her going oh
35:34
man she's fit she's gonna
35:36
kill us all and so then but
35:40
she didn't have the core
35:42
strength of being able to
35:44
do clean snatch all that stuff
35:47
And once she started
35:48
realizing that she could get stronger,
35:50
it's amazing that how old
35:53
are you when you started?
35:54
Like 40?
35:55
I was 40, like 41 when I started.
35:58
I had never picked up a
35:58
barbell till after I was 41.
36:00
And now she's 55 and she's
36:03
crushing lifting weights.
36:07
It's amazing how much
36:08
stronger and she's getting
36:10
stronger every year.
36:11
I started at 41 as well.
36:17
Yeah.
36:18
And, uh, I'm 55 now.
36:20
Yeah.
36:21
It was same timeframe.
36:23
Yeah.
36:23
I started in 2011, November of 2011.
36:26
I, I probably different circumstances.
36:30
You were really fit.
36:31
I was 450 pounds.
36:31
So, uh, yeah, totally different journey.
36:37
I'm sure.
36:39
But, uh, yeah,
36:40
I had the same struggles probably.
36:41
Yeah.
36:42
Yeah, it saved my life.
36:44
I mean, CrossFit truly saved my life.
36:46
I was going to die if I didn't find it.
36:48
Oh, no.
36:49
That's amazing, though.
36:51
You weren't always overweight?
36:54
Or were you athletic when
36:55
you were younger?
36:57
So I was a college swimmer.
37:01
So I was swimming five hours
37:03
a day and I was super skinny,
37:07
but I never learned how to
37:08
like nutrition or how to eat.
37:10
So when that went away back then,
37:12
there was no CrossFit.
37:12
There was no competition for
37:14
me to jump into to like
37:17
keep me motivated to do something.
37:19
And I tried powerlifting.
37:21
I tried some other stuff.
37:23
It never really sunk in.
37:26
And then time after time,
37:27
you just get older and fall
37:28
into the bad habits.
37:29
And then at 41, I found CrossFit,
37:30
lost 260 pounds.
37:39
Wow.
37:40
That's amazing.
37:41
And then it's, but it's,
37:43
it's never a straight line.
37:44
Right.
37:45
And then I had a back injury
37:46
that like really sucked it to me.
37:49
And now I'm coming back from
37:50
that and I'm on like my
37:53
second journey of that.
37:55
So is your back all healed?
37:59
Sure.
38:00
It's, it's like, I just, I can't,
38:04
I probably let my ego get in
38:06
the way of a lot of things
38:08
and like squatting.
38:09
Oh,
38:10
almost 500 pounds was not smart at my
38:13
age.
38:13
And, um, and I don't know if that,
38:17
the doctor said it wasn't
38:18
even that it was being
38:19
overweight for years that
38:21
actually hurt my back.
38:22
Um,
38:22
it was just literally I picked up a
38:25
laundry basket.
38:26
That's what was sent me over the edge.
38:28
Oh no.
38:30
And, uh, I've had 12,
38:32
12 procedures on my back.
38:35
and but I haven't had I
38:37
haven't had to have
38:38
anything in four or five
38:40
years now it's just scary
38:43
and it's trying to figure
38:44
out what the new me is
38:45
right yeah just work your
38:47
way back up very slowly
38:50
yeah and so like I think
38:53
now I'm going to do a
38:54
combination of swimming and crossfit
38:57
I'm going to get to the pool
38:59
and start swimming a couple
39:00
days a week just because
39:02
it's no impact and it's easy on my back.
39:06
Just to get some reps in
39:07
that way and then add
39:11
CrossFit in to that.
39:13
Did you have a passion for
39:15
swimming so that now that
39:16
when you're getting back into the pool,
39:20
it feels like home?
39:22
I don't know.
39:23
I haven't started back yet.
39:24
Oh, okay.
39:26
It's going to happen after the games.
39:29
Right now,
39:29
I'm just working out in my
39:30
garage doing CrossFit every day.
39:33
But my passion is more for CrossFit.
39:35
I just don't know if my body
39:36
can handle that.
39:39
So trying to figure out
39:42
something to get me down to
39:43
a good weight where I can
39:45
handle that every day,
39:47
if that makes sense.
39:50
It sounds,
39:51
your path sounds a little bit
39:54
similar to mine where I was
39:58
high school and college.
39:59
I played softball and volleyball.
40:00
I played golf and things like that.
40:02
But toward the end of college,
40:05
I weighed 193 pounds, almost 200 pounds.
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And it was really hard for
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me to lose that weight.
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And when I finally lost the
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weight and I started
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getting into running and then golf,
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then running, then the CrossFit gym,
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then I had, and I got down to like 155,
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something like that.
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And then I ended up having breast cancer.
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And during breast cancer, I just said,
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you know what?
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I don't, I don't care.
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Even though I did CrossFit,
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I'm just going to eat whatever I want.
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And I ended up getting up back up to 186.
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And now this morning, I'm like 146.
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But it took a long time for
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me to get from the 186 to say,
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you know what, I'm ready.
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I'm ready to actually take
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responsibility for my
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nutrition and get back down.
41:02
Denise is impressive.
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She's very,
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very good at being disciplined
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with her food.
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You know, she tracks it every day.
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Well, she just doesn't eat.
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Whenever we go anywhere, I'm like,
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can we eat something, please?
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Because I'm starving.
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I'm getting better.
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And then she'll get like a
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burger and eat half of it.
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And she goes, I'm fine.
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I'm full.
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And I lose weight every time
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I travel with her.
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Wow.
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Lee Frazier says, I started at 55.
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I'm so inconsistent,
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I think is what she's saying there.
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CrossFit saved my life as well.
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Yes.
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Yeah, this has been fun, guys.
41:48
It's funny because my travel
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person to events has been Jamie.
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And Jamie's going to be
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competing at the games as well.
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And so we're going to be kind of separate.
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She's doing her thing.
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I'm doing my thing.
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But we eat so different at events.
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Like she has to tell me to
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eat or I forget to.
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And she needs to get her
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calories in because she's working out.
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And it's, it's kind of the same way,
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but yeah.
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So we're,
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we're all going to be there
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supporting you.
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We're going to have this documentary.
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Hopefully it turns out awesome.
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Cause I want something for
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you guys to have after this
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is all over to remember the
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weekend and kind of the fun
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that you had there,
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not just the competition piece.
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Yeah.
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The behind the scenes sounds amazing.
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It'll be fun to watch.
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We appreciate it.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Can't wait to see you guys down there,
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ladies,
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and hang out and see what you
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crush it on the floor.
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We're going to try.
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I'm going to try.
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I'm going to leave it out
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there as much as I can.
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And that's the best part of this, right?
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Right.
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Put it all out there, and it is what it is,
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but make sure you have fun.
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I only have to hurt for like
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eight minutes.
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That's it, right?
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Unless we're running like a
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20 minute workout.
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They're not going to have 20
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minute workouts.
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There's way too many people to cycle.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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Well guys,
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it's been an honor having you on
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here as always.
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So much fun.
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Can't wait to see you there.
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Everybody in the chat.
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Thank you for being here.
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We will see everybody next
43:29
time on the Clyde sale media podcast.
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Thank you for having us.