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The Sirens Are Loading Up, The Teams That Could Surge & Liz Ellis Wants a No Dribble Team · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: As always, it's a tough week to be a wing defence.
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  Speaker 1: This week is probably tougher than others, but we are
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  Speaker 1: here to get through this. You're on No Dribble.
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  Speaker 2: Strap in!
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  Speaker 3: MUSIC There it is.
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  Speaker 1: How was that?
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  Speaker 3: Much better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Kat gave me some feedback there.
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  Speaker 3: Voice coaching.
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  Speaker 1: Voice coaching. I like that. We're going to maybe at
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  Speaker 1: the One Year to Go event do the, what's the
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  Speaker 1: helium balloons again like we did at the end of
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  Speaker 1: your birthday?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Did we ring you when we did that list? Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you did. And you sent me videos, which I still have.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm waiting for the right moment to release them.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Never not funny. Never not funny.
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  Speaker 4: Never not funny.
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  Speaker 3: Well, particularly when it's coming out of a little person.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's funny when it's coming out of
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  Speaker 4: a big person because it doesn't fit.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, funny.
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  Speaker 4: Anyhoo, hello. Have we said hello?
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  Speaker 1: My name's Carol. This is Wendell. You're on No Dribble,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk about so much more.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Kath Cox.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Liz.
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  Speaker 5: Oh god there's a guy at the gym one of
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  Speaker 5: our trainers and um like he's a very high level crossfitter.
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  Speaker 1: But he's got these things now and i remember them
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  Speaker 1: being big like in the 70s so they're these boots
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  Speaker 1: that he puts on and he'll hang himself up oh
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  Speaker 1: yeah yes and he does 10 minutes and at the
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  Speaker 1: end of it His voice sounds like he's been having
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  Speaker 1: hell even.
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  Speaker 3: That's because his balls have probably gone.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they've gone somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: Why does he do that for?
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  Speaker 3: What did they used to do?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, stretching the spine.
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  Speaker 4: Traction.
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  Speaker 1: Traction, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Making him taller.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They were huge in the 80s, weren't they? Isn't it
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  Speaker 3: funny the random fads that come in and go out again?
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but he is like, he is a professional
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  Speaker 1: CrossFit athlete and spent like, he is not just doing
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  Speaker 1: a lot of training, but spending a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: learning about physiology and his training. So I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 1: a good reason for it, but we all take the
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  Speaker 1: piss out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the perfect spot odds.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I was at, I told you I was at lunch
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  Speaker 1: on Friday and I met a guy who had been
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  Speaker 1: an Olympian twice, 92 and 96. And In his defence,
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  Speaker 1: I was the one who said, tell me your story.
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  Speaker 1: And then about two minutes after, and I'm going, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, that's amazing, two Olympics, blah, blah, blah. And
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  Speaker 1: then some of his friends come over and I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is he talking about that again? And within two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and I love this about Australians, that we'll go, we
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  Speaker 1: really admire that you're an Olympian, but now, 90 seconds later,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to take the piss out of you. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's very culturally Australian, isn't it? But it's so...
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  Speaker 1: Love you, mate, but part of that, how we're going
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  Speaker 1: to express that is by choking the piss.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll absolutely bring you back down to our level. Yeah, yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 3: What was the sport? Rowing.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: So sitting down.
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  Speaker 3: Was he the cocks or the rower?
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  Speaker 1: I think he was the rower.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't ask.
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  Speaker 3: Were you eye to eye with him or not?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we were sitting down. But also, everyone's taller than me.
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  Speaker 3: No, but the cocks wouldn't be. That's why I'm asking.
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  Speaker 3: Wouldn't they?
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  Speaker 2: No. How tall is he?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to fit in the tiny little brrp
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  Speaker 3: brrp at the back.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to.
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  Speaker 3: And they sound like they've been on the helium.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to look up what an Olympic cock's
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  Speaker 1: size is.
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  Speaker 4: I think the answer will be very little.
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  Speaker 3: One size fits all.
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  Speaker 1: Dirty little.
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  Speaker 4: Person with a great big voice.
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  Speaker 3: Doing the Googles.
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  Speaker 1: Doing some research here.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Doing the Googles. That sounds like something an old lady
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  Speaker 4: would say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of old ladies, I don't know if that wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a bad segue. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You're all over these segues.
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  Speaker 4: Love the segue. I had to be with an old
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  Speaker 4: lady moment on Saturday. I'm very sore.
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  Speaker 3: Did you fart and hurt your back?
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  Speaker 2: I wish.
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  Speaker 4: That would be A, funnier and B, less painful. No,
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  Speaker 4: last Saturday I was– You know, I'm playing in my
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  Speaker 4: comeback year in Div 1 and I've touch wood managed
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  Speaker 4: to get through the season largely unscathed. Body clash Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: I landed on my coccyx.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: How tall was he?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Does he sit on the back of the boat?
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  Speaker 4: It hurt my back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, but then as I landed, I landed on my–
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  Speaker 4: and it hurt. And so I flung myself back to
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  Speaker 4: not land on my coccyx and I hit my head.
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  Speaker 4: On the concrete?
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  Speaker 3: On the concrete.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got an egg the size of a goose.
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  Speaker 3: What were you trying to do at the time? Because
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  Speaker 3: this is where the real stories are.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was trying to get the ball and I
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  Speaker 4: was never a chance of getting the ball. So I
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  Speaker 4: was behaving like a bit of a windmill and I
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  Speaker 4: lost my footing and boom. And everyone came over to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the windmill. Like I was playing with my
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  Speaker 4: daughter and she runs over to go, okay, are you okay?
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  Speaker 4: And I looked up and I saw this face and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, everyone, go away. Just leave me alone.
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  Speaker 2: So I just lay.
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  Speaker 4: There and held my head.
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  Speaker 3: Waking your head on the floorboards was always bad enough,
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  Speaker 3: but on outside asphalt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I put my head behind because I thought
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  Speaker 4: I knew I had this lunch that we had to
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  Speaker 4: go to on Tuesday and I thought if I have
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  Speaker 4: to go with a big bald patch at the back
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  Speaker 4: of my head because I have to have stitches.
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  Speaker 1: What about the bike helmet? There's stitches. She's the chair.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: And then you need the sticks. You know how when
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  Speaker 3: you go hiking and the older people sometimes have the sticks?
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  Speaker 3: You need some walking sticks.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I do. And little knee pads and little elbow pads. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've always been clumsy. Matthew, the meat tray has always
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  Speaker 4: said that he was going to buy me a helmet
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  Speaker 4: and some knee pads and I think I might need it.
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  Speaker 4: I've only got a couple more games to go, but
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  Speaker 4: if I get away unscathed and that's the worst that happens,
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  Speaker 4: that's good.
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  Speaker 1: To you when you had your perm and your braces?
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  Speaker 4: No, a bit after that. I used to say it
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  Speaker 4: to me when I used to play. Because off the
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  Speaker 4: court I'm really clumsy. When I play, I mean not now,
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  Speaker 4: but when I was playing I was okay. But then
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  Speaker 4: the moment I get off court I'm an idiot. I
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  Speaker 4: trip over my feet. I trip over air.
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  Speaker 3: And can I please tell you how many times I
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  Speaker 3: use you as an example to Harper? I kid you
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  Speaker 3: not because you are so similar. in that little bit clumsy.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so clumsy.
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  Speaker 3: But on court she's actually quite coordinated and I thought,
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  Speaker 3: how is this possible that Liz Ellis made a career
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  Speaker 3: out of it?
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  Speaker 1: So is that Liz being an inspiration or a cautionary tale?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's an inspiration.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely an inspiration. If you are a klutz, there
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  Speaker 4: is hope for you if you can just get on court.
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  Speaker 3: Don't play attack.
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  Speaker 4: Though no yeah no that's right you're much better off
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  Speaker 4: reacting rather than proacting but a lady once said to
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  Speaker 4: me you are such a gazelle on court but what
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  Speaker 4: happens when you get off the court i'm like i
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  Speaker 4: don't know i just go back to i'm such a
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  Speaker 4: klutz yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No but it's it's very very inspirational so thank you
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  Speaker 3: because otherwise i'd be a little worried about my child
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  Speaker 3: long term but.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's so funny. I would take all the credit
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  Speaker 4: when she plays goalkeeper for the Swifts of the Diamonds.
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  Speaker 3: You can. Nice. Very good.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I've got the information.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there we go.
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  Speaker 1: Underworld, underworld. It's not the underworld. It's underworld rowing and
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  Speaker 1: then quick rules. The underworld rowing. A cox must have
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  Speaker 1: a minimum weight of 55 kilos for both men's and
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  Speaker 1: women's event. If they carry less than this minimum, they
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  Speaker 1: have to carry up 15 kilos of dead weight such
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  Speaker 1: as metal or sandbags in the boat to make up
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  Speaker 1: the difference.
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  Speaker 3: Or drugs because it is the underworld.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Height typically between 5'2 and 5'8.
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  Speaker 2: You're in.
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  Speaker 3: This is it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at the shorter end of Cox.
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  Speaker 4: But nevertheless, like you just need a big voice and
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  Speaker 4: you like you hit all the physical attributes. Can we
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  Speaker 4: get you onto like a boat for the 2032 Olympics?
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  Speaker 1: I've been distracted by something. Do you want to know,
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  Speaker 1: you know how AI, it summarises what you're looking for
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  Speaker 1: and then it says, I'll give you more information. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want to know about coxswain, coxswain equipment like the coxbox?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, what?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I want to know about the Cox box. Well,
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  Speaker 1: so this will be fun. This whole episode is me
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  Speaker 1: Googling stuff. Yes. Yes, I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we have Cox's hot box.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's something we do.
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  Speaker 4: Did you patent that? Because I feel like there's a
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  Speaker 4: bit of intellectual property infringement going on here.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this.
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  Speaker 1: It's just autocorrected it to.
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  Speaker 3: Acid A box.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I think we need to abort that because we're
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  Speaker 3: going to end up down some rabbit hole.
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  Speaker 1: But you wanted to, so Liz is trying to claim
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  Speaker 1: that her old person tendency is falling over, even though
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  Speaker 1: we know it's just her tendency. So, but you set
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  Speaker 1: us another challenge this week.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, what's yours?
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  Speaker 1: I have so many old person tendencies. I do too.
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  Speaker 1: really big on punctuation um and so one of my
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  Speaker 1: old person tendencies that i know i can let go
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  Speaker 1: of now is putting two spaces after a sentence when
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  Speaker 1: i'm writing some.
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  Speaker 4: Hang on is that an old person tendency i thought
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  Speaker 4: that was like.
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  Speaker 1: Good no that's not done anymore yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Who says young people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah well they don't even write full words.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrible but i will i will maintain my range
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  Speaker 1: i i look.
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  Speaker 4: Do not let go of that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I will not let go of that.
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  Speaker 4: That and the Oxford comma. They're the two things keeping
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  Speaker 4: us civilised.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: Oxford comma.
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  Speaker 2: See?
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  Speaker 3: Clearly I've dropped off already. What's that?
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  Speaker 4: You've got to read to understand what the Oxford comma is.
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  Speaker 3: No, what is it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's when you have a list of things and
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  Speaker 4: at the end of it you can, if you say,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of a funny one but I
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  Speaker 4: can't think of anything funny.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: So yes, if you, um, the Oxford comma is the
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  Speaker 4: comma after the last thing before the end. And it
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  Speaker 4: just helps you. I think it actually helps make things
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  Speaker 4: clearer rather than sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: You put these in all my messages to you on
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  Speaker 3: our WhatsApp group guys, they might not be relevant and
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  Speaker 3: make any sense at any point, but I'm doing it.
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  Speaker 1: There's a book on the shelf up there called eats
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  Speaker 1: roots and leaves. And it's a book about punctuation.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: It's about, um, how easy it is to get these
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  Speaker 1: things confused if you don't have the right punctuation because eats,
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  Speaker 1: roots and leaves could be three separate actions or what
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  Speaker 1: the animal eats and that is roots and leaves.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Very good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. A punctuation podcast. Louise Ellis' dream.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I know. It was something else. What was it? You
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do some. The lexicon. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: History of language.
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  Speaker 4: Word nerds, I wanted to call it. Anyway, if I
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  Speaker 4: was at all, like if I had a bit of
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  Speaker 4: spare time, I'd get it up and running. But anyway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you don't have that at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My old people, there's a lot and I am reminded
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  Speaker 3: of them when I do them, obviously, at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Then you forget because that's an old person tendency, right?
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  Speaker 3: One of them, though, is I always turn the volume
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  Speaker 3: down when I can't see clearly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm just a bit at.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will never actually put my glasses on.
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  Speaker 3: We've had this conversation before. Always moan when I get
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  Speaker 3: into bed and out of bed. See?
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  Speaker 1: What about in the during?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, that was in the olden days. That was when
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  Speaker 4: she rips cheeks and leaves.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God. She rips eyes and leaves. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's sad, isn't it?
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  Speaker 4: It is sad.
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  Speaker 3: It's just everything. So the other actually classic, this one,
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  Speaker 3: on Sunday, Saturday or Sunday, the kids want to ride
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  Speaker 3: their bikes now because we've taught them to ride bikes
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: and the best place are the netball courts. Netball courts
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  Speaker 3: are gold mines for stuff like that. But one of
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  Speaker 3: the parents texted and said, what about heading down this afternoon?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, oh, I've just looked up. The last
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  Speaker 3: game of Netties finishes at 5.30. Like that's too late.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not leaving the house past 5.30 when it's getting
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  Speaker 3: dark on a weekend when I'm just tucking into nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Who's doing that?
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: That's going home.
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  Speaker 3: Even Sunday, like after three on a Sunday, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: your gal.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: Catherine, you're getting worse. You're the only person I know
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  Speaker 4: who is planning a trip home before you leave.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I am.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to. That's when you're settling in.
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  Speaker 3: So you're sitting down, you've got an olive and a
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  Speaker 3: glass of wine.
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  Speaker 4: You're sitting down. See? I can't go out because I'm
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  Speaker 4: settling into my sitting down.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not getting up. I'm not going out. That's outrageous.
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  Speaker 1: I went to the house on Saturday afternoon to do
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  Speaker 1: something exciting that I've never done before, and that was
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  Speaker 1: I went to the Sydney International Equestrian Centre and watched
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  Speaker 1: some show jumping.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 4: I have a question.
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  Speaker 3: This is a serious question.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a safe spot. Are you dying?
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  Speaker 2: No, well, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: How's the ukulele lesson? Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Out of the blue. It's like you've got a list
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  Speaker 3: of random crap you want to tick off before you die.
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  Speaker 4: Whereas Catherine is clearly not dying because at 3pm she's
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  Speaker 4: sitting in this out of town.
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  Speaker 3: No, what brought that on?
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  Speaker 1: No, well, a friend of mine was visiting from out
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  Speaker 1: of town and his niece was competing and it's like, look,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: any interest in coming out to this? And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: of course. Then discovered it was close to an hour's
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  Speaker 1: drive away. But amazing. So this was a facility that
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  Speaker 1: was set up for the Sydney Olympics. And I would 100%
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: go in the Brisbane Olympics, I'm going to go to netball,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to equestrian. It was so cool.
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  Speaker 1: And these are, we were talking on Wednesday about when
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  Speaker 1: professional athletes have their careers ended in a way that
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  Speaker 1: they don't choose. All of these sports where people are
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: investing so much time and money.
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  Speaker 3: So this was..
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  Speaker 1: Like a World Cup event. I don't really understand it
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  Speaker 1: because it seemed to be just Australia, but they go.
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  Speaker 1: So they were here. And then in three weeks time,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: they're down in Borley Point. Three weeks ago, they were
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: in Condobolin or somewhere like that, moving all around. They've
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: invested all this money, these beautiful horses. But Do you
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: ever find when you go along, I knew nothing about this.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I got that there were horses, that part.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that there were horses involved when I
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: was going out to the show jumping, but I've never
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: watched it. But within five minutes? I'm an expert.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: You're an expert.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: That was a slow run, wasn't it? He'll be disappointed
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: in that.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: No, that's what I was going to ask you. So
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: is it timed or is it on heights of the jumps?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Is that a separate thing?
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: No, so it's a course that they have to do
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: within a time and so they all have to go
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: over the same. It's not like high jump where they go, oh,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: my horse got over it, let's put another bar on it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: So this one, the first one was I think about
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: 14 obstacles that had to go over and they had
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: 80 seconds. And of the 22 riders, we saw only
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: two didn't get a time penalty. So if you knock
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: over one of the railings, more of the railings of
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: a single obstacle, you lose four points. And then every
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: second after the time cap, you get a one-second penalty
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: The second one was I think there were 24 riders
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: in the first round. Yes. In the second round, the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: top 12 went through. And it's amazing because, of course,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: the leaderboard is shifting so rapidly because it's like, well,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: that person who came into this round on 12 points
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: had a perfect run so they don't get over 12 points.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: But someone who did better than them comes in with
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: five points and two obstacles and they're done.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I wonder how many people blame their horse when they
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: don't have a good day. That was my horse.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you would, wouldn't you?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I'd be really interested to know, like, what is the,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: what they actually do in that second that goes, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: now we're here. Because I assume it's the rider who
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: makes the decision about when we're going to launch.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, it was fascinating. But it is funny, like,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I'm finding myself, I'm sitting next to, so my mate
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: was there and I was sitting next to his brother
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and Who's the father of the girl who was competing,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: who was at that stage leading the World Cup event,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: the 12. It's like a Formula One circuit. What do
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: they call it? You know, when they do all around
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the world in one year. So she was leading that
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: at that stage. I think she might still be. But
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he explains two things to me and then next thing
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just..
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: You are the expert.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Do you cheer? Like people get into it or is
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: it a quiet person's, you know, sophisticated sport?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You cheer at the end.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right. No one's like..
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: No one is. It's pretty well silent and then if
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: someone hits a... it hits an obstacle then there's a, oh,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but there's not. It's more like tennis in that regard.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But it is so, so exciting and we're sort of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: finding ourselves, I don't know whether you do this when
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you watch sport, controlling what's happening with our bodies.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, all the time.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I have to know what you're doing next week though.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It's got to be just as random as the ukulele
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and the show jumping.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything random planned.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Suggestions, please, everybody. Dribblers.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Dribblers.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: One of my girlfriends does show jumping and she's just
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: a regular, normal mum. Our kids are friends. And then
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: she'll put up a post of her in her jodhpurs,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: jumping her massive. And I'm like, fuck you're sexy.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Like she's beautiful.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Like when she's on that horse.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: She's done it her whole life or is this a
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: flight thing?
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: No, she's done it her whole life and she's massively
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: into it. It's her sort of time away. And obviously
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: I live in a rural area, so I live on
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: a farm. But Every time she puts photos of herself
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: up like jumping, I go back to her and I'm like, oh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: my God, you look so hot.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about jumpers and boots?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I really had to restrain myself not to go and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: buy an entire new one. Oh my God, look how
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: good they look.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Terrifying horses.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: So when we moved to the farm, Matthew had a horse,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: the meat tray had a horse, and he's quite the equestrian.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: He grew up, he was like doing pony club when
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: he was little. And so he's got a really good
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: seat in the saddle. He's a really good rider. And
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I said to him, you cannot ride. We've just had
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: a kid. You've got to go and get a helmet.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: And so he went to the horse shop and I
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: thought he would come back with black jumpers and a,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: like a black helmet and like, I don't know, something hot.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: And he came back with his, I saw him riding
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: and he had his King G shorts on and a
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: white And I was like, that is not the man
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: from Snowy River. Can you go and try again?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Or at least Dutton Ranch or Yellowstone. Just get yourself
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: a cowboy hat and a shirt.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone in the man from Snowy River
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was wearing a helmet.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: It's true. It's hard.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Nor were they wearing their stubbies.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Well, I did. I just wanted him to find a
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: helmet that allowed him to be the man from Snowy River.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: What he wanted was a combination of several members of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the village people.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: That is true.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Matthew, at the next live event, please come and lead
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: us in the 90s.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get up for that one.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Macho man. All right, let's take a little break and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: come back and talk about something. Okay, so we talked
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: about this on Wednesday that– There's still a number of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Jamaicans who we haven't heard about. Obviously, the Jamaicans are
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: incredibly important to Super Netball. They have. So we have
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Shanira Sterling-Humphrey and Latanya Wilson-Habris.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: And long term.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Till 2029. How's that? Adelaide Thunderbirds, well played.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Shimona Nelson.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Shimona, yeah.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: For the Mavs.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Katie-Ann Dehaney, obviously. Shanice Beckford.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: That's exciting.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Fowler. Fowler.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: All-in-one team again, but Beckford back, hey? She was good
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: at the Commonwealth Games. Way to fill a void.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I remember when you were saying Fowler. It took me
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a moment.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, so Fowler, no, my apologies, yep.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Well, that's very exciting.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I know. So second team to have announced.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: She had a binder of a Commonwealth Games.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so good.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I was really sad when she left the year before.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a great little– I think the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: combination of heights there is a fantastic thing. Yeah. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I also have some news about Jamaicans. I did promise
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you that the Sirens would let us announce another signing. And,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of course, now, first of all, let me ask you
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about this. This is my daughter's doll. Should this be
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the new mascot costume for the Sirens? I'm a yes.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm comparing it to Gia and Sporty.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Are we going to make her waddle around like that
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: or are we going to give her some feet?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe she should be allowed to wear whatever she wants
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: on the top too.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, I do love a bit of history,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: as you know, as I've bored Catherine with when I
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: dragged her around Pompeii. The sirens comes from... Odysseus. Yeah, Odysseus, right?
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: And so much of what happens, lots of things get
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: lost in translation, right? So the most... recent translation of
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: the Odyssey, or not the most recent, but a recent
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: one by a woman, has the sirens not being voluptuous merwomen,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: but more wise birdwomen. Which I like because.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: So the heritage of the bird is alive.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yes. So, you know, when we go back to the
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: olden days in the Commonwealth Bank Trophy, speaking of like
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: ancient Greek mythology, and we all had to be birds
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: back in the day, I think there's a bit of
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: a calling, there could be a bit of a calling
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: back to that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, a bird call likely.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So I'd like for SEN to investigate that as they
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: come up with what their mascot might be.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder whether SEN has a Greek historian on staff
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in order to..
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: If you don't have a Greek historian on staff, what
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: sort of organisation are you?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we all do, don't we?
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's really interesting. And, I mean, they were on
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the shore, weren't they? So they weren't in the ocean
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: in the poem. So it sort of makes sense that
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: they are not necessarily Daryl Hannah in Splash.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, Daryl Hannah. God, there's a blast from the past. Yeah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: So I thought that was quite interesting. I know there's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: been lots of talk about the Sirens as a name.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I love the name.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it too.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I completely understand why there are a number of people
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: who don't, who think it's a bit regressive as a
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: female image, but..
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: But that's not at all where SEN took it, if
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you look at their blurb when they first announced it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's a siren that makes all the noise hard to ignore, blah, blah, blah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So it is maritime in the logo.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: It is, correct, yes.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: It does look like a bit of an anchor there.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't have to be... That doesn't have to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: be an anti-feminist take on it either. You know, that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be about, you know, repressive images of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: women or whatever. So I'm not, I've been thinking a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: lot about this because I do see why there are
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: some people who are concerned about it. But I like it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's quite exciting. I like the idea of
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: siren cannot be ignored.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Paid attention to. And I'll tell you what, sirens are
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: going to start getting people paying attention to them soon. Wow.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Drum roll. Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And Dodie Ann Ward is back.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Woo-hoo.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And she had a cracker of a half season when
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: we saw her at the back end last year or
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: this year. I don't know. Is it last year? It's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: last netball year. We've been through that before. But I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: think that's really exciting for the Sirens, very exciting for
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: their future neighbours, of whom I'm going to be one,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I will remind you. So let's get on with that.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: So three players signed up. So we've got two teams
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: with full quota of athletes and then three players for
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the Sirens. They've got the least.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Well, by the time this goes to air, there may
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: be more than that because Emily from the Sirens organization
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: told me that they're letting Alexa Prino announce a couple
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: of names. I hope you're following your netball bestie on
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Instagram and I don't know, wherever other young people gather.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: We don't care. There's quite a lot of people.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: There is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: There is. Let's all go to Myspace and see what's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: happening in Sydney in 2017. But, yeah, that's exciting. So
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: we do have a very strong Jamaican contingent. And, look,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not at all convinced that we're not going to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: see Rubella Rake and George come back too. Like that is–
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: She is– Nowhere for her to go.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: She's eternal. There was nowhere for her to go last
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: year either, was there?
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: No, fucks. Yeah, that was an injury.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Things change. Now it was a pregnancy.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Same thing some would say.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's very exciting. Is that our whole netball
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: segment for today?
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Close to.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, just having a quick look. I reckon we need
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: to chat who's making finals out of this.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, do you know what? I'm not ready.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It's too hard to say.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: And do you know what I need? I need to
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: be able to, like, I wonder if we can put
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: it into AI. Is AI advanced enough yet that you
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: can put these names in and get them to play
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a quarter?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Against each other?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, I reckon you could.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: You know what? You know I'm anti-AI, but actually this
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is what we should be doing is training AI to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: be netball savvy.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't know this, what we want.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Is people using it and training it to understand it. Yes.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, fever for me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: They're in my grand final.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, look at the line-up.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Ecanazio with Fowler Nemard and Beckford?
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Come on. It's interesting though, right? You can put together
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of names, but like it has to work.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Well, we've seen that, haven't we? Lightning got all the names.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking about Lightning? So they've got
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a full team too. Again, they've got a team of some– Well, yeah, they.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Do and some youth in there as well. Ava Black,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Lisa Maimai, they're back as well. Anstis, good pick-up given
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: West Coast didn't want her. How good? Maggie Karras gone
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: there to boost that defence end and Bruce and Berger
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: still there. What about the front line though with Heffernan now,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Wilkinson and Wallum? That's versatile.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Me likey. Me likey.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Well, will we see a different top four than we
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: saw last year? Too early for us to make that call. Actually,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I do want to say something. You know, I was
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: saying on Wednesday how I had heard the rumours about
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Ash Irvine from the beginning. Can I be clear? That
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: did not come from anyone official or related to Ash.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So that came from? complete randos, but it was early on.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you of all the signings, that has
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: got to be one of my favorites because she's just
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: such a superstar that been sitting on the bench. I
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: don't think has had nearly enough court time for a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: long time and deserves it. And I'm very excited to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: see what she does with this opportunity.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Can I tell you that I know the least of
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: everyone in this signing period. I hear the least rumors.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Which is disappointing. You're telling me rumours.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I send you my rumours and you go, oh, that's interesting.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yes.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Look at me.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: And I try not to peddle in rumours because mainly
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: people might think that's because of my situation, but it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: actually because of my old person brain and I forget
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: what's rumours and what's true. So it's best I don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: say anything.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And it's best I don't hear anything unless it's official.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I did think I was pretty hot stuff this morning
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: when you two arrived to do the recording and I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just was able to drop a couple of signings for
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the sirens. Where did you hear that?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: From the sirens.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Directly. I can't, but this is the power of you though,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: isn't it? I'm just going to annoy people via LinkedIn
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of all places and see if I can get a
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: name drop.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It's about the one useful thing LinkedIn has ever done
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for me and that is I got on and I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: started to track people down at SCN and write to them.
• 29:00
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• 29:02
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• 29:05
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• 29:10
  Speaker 1: There's very few women's sport ones, let alone any other.
• 29:13
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• 29:18
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  Speaker 1: But Alex wanted to run 30 seconds of Hanson. Maybe
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: not everyone loves it as much as you and I do.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Alex is, of course, our lovely producer. So sadly we
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: won't be hearing as much of Hanson on the podcast anymore.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Disappointing.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: All those that have an issue with that, say aye.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Against, not carry.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: All right, let's have a little break then and come back. And, Catherine,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you've got some stuff to get.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Off your chest. Let's do it. Oh, yeah, people.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, Friday, nearly the weekend. What will Carolyn do? Will
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: there be another equestrian event? No, Fien, they've done that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Dog show.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Dog show. What about a dog show? I would go
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to a dog show with you. Let's find one. What's
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: the big one in England?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Is it Crufts? Or is it Crufts?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Or is it Roffs?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Is Westminster in the US and Crufts is in? Anyway,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: but those are the two big dog shows.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Let's find a dog show.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: There was a great movie called Best in Show.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: It's a great movie.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: And it stars Catherine O'Hara who, of course, was in
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Schitt's Creek who passed away sadly not so long ago.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But it's from, you know, the whole crew who did
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the Spinal Tap, Princess Bride crew. If you love any
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of those, watch Best in Show. It is so funny.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And what is that woman's name? Stifler's Ma. Oh, yes.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Hilarious.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: So if you two go to a dog show, I
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: need a new dog. Do you reckon you could flog
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: one for me?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, find a lost one.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: We'll have to be little because I'm not running out
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: of there holding a St.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Bernard.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Go on, Catherine. Challenge yourself.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Teacup poodle I'll pop in my handbag.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: No dramas. Imagine how long a teacup poodle would last
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: at my house.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two seconds.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd get lost.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: And probably last that long in my handbag on the
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: way out.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You had to get a larger dog because of the fences,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: didn't you?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Like that's a– I had to get a larger dog
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: that wouldn't run away. Anyhow, let's not go down that route.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: It's too sad.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Well, let me change topic then.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Pet peeve.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Did you do that deliberately? Pet peeve?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Pet peeve.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Did you see that?
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: I want to know.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: If you did see it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: No, you didn't.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: She caught it as it came back and hit her
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: on the head on the way through.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a boomerang. No, so Jim this morning,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: let me ask you a question.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Who's Jim?
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Have you not met Jim?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: He's fruits and leaves.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, guys.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God, I'm going to need one of those
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: poised pads at this rate.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I had a full muttly laugh happening here, didn't I?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I popped a rib.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: No, seriously. Yeah. All right.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Question for you both.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: You go to the gym.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: There's a row of six treadmills.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Yep. There's someone on either end.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Which treadmill do you take?
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: So there's no such thing as the middle because there's
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: four left, right?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: You go on three or four, right? Yes. One and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: six are taken.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You go on either three or four.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, you do.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I would go on three.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: God, it drives me bananas where there is a three
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: and a four available and someone goes next to you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I can't stop crying. But that's like this has been
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: missing from the podcast for a while. This is like
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: when you go caravanning and you go to a free
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: camp and you set up and there's all this space
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: and someone comes and sets up right next to you.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: What do they?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: On the beach too. Yes. Are you kidding?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know who needs to hear it, but clearly
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: people do. This is a community service announcement. Don't do
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: it because then you start to breathe differently. Like I'm like,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want to breathe like I was before because
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: now there's someone standing next to me. Then you're worrying
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: about if you stink. Like just give me a buffer.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: But if someone takes three and someone takes four, then–
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Two and five are available. Yes. And that's okay because
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: then if someone takes two or five, you're okay with that?
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Completely fine at that point. But don't do it when
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: there's sparesies in the middle that give you a buffer.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: It's so weird. I don't understand why people would do that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Are there people?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: It happens to me a lot and every time they
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: get on, I look down the line and of treadies
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: just to make a point of, oh, well, there's one
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: over there. Do you do a lot of sight? I do.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I actually do, but then I will ultimately get off
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and they win.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So you said you don't know who needs to hear it.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you who needs to hear it. People at
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the swimming pool who are swimming laps and they get
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: in the fast lane when they should be in the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: slow lane or at very least the medium lane. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I always start in the medium lane. I'm a pretty
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: good swimmer. I quite like it. I always start in
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: the medium lane because then you've got the slow on
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: your right, the fast on your left. You can keep
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: an eye and say, all right, I will adjust accordingly.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: But if you go to one of the end ones,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it's sort of harder to see. But if you know
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you're slow, you're slow.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: But a lot of.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Men, Like to get in the fast lane. Oh, of
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: course they do. Because they think that that makes them
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Ian Thorpe. Who's the American one?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Michael Phelps.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Michael Phelps. Just being in the fast lane is not
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: enough to make you an Olympic swimmer. You need to
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: do the swimming that keeps you at the pace there,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that short, middle-aged women aren't overtaking you and having to
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: be really strategic with their time at the end of
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the pool. Because you think you're going to be fast
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: just by being fast.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: The ego, right? Like you can't just get in the
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: middle lane.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: It's interesting, isn't it? It's fascinating.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the psychology is, but you've just
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: reminded me. Did you say in the Good Weekend quiz
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: this weekend there was a question of what swimmer held
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: every world record from 100 to 1,500 metres? They're the
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: only swimmers who have ever done it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: One swimmer. One swimmer. All of them?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Do you know who it was?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Must have been in the million years ago.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Thorpey?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: No, it's a woman. Is it our Aussie?
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Not Dawn, but you're getting closer. Oh, hotter and colder.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: You're getting warmer.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Shane Gould.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Ding, ding, ding.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: That is amazing.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Now, she would be the one person you'd put in
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: the fast lane swimming.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think if you've been to the Olympics
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: for swimming, even if it was 50 years ago, you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: can start in the fast lane. If you've been an
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Olympic swimmer, You can go and start there and then
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you might need to adjust. For everyone else, including me,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that is not the place to start. That is start medium.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: But then be willing to drop yourself down. Oh, yeah.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Sometimes like.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I could be going and I'm a medium lane swimmer
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: or even fast on other days, but the day that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I happen to be there is the reunion of the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Australian Dolphins swimming team and they go, hey, let's all
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: go and do some laps. Then I'm not going to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: be fast.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be slow.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Isn't it funny, though, how people will actually go back
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: and do their sport for fun? Like I don't imagine
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: the dolphins are jumping in the pool to have a
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: little team bonding swim, but like ex-surfers would just have
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a casual surf just because they love it. Golfers, we
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: wouldn't go and do that socially for fun as a
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: catch up though.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Not as a catch-up.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: No, I would rather put my.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: No, but I have started to think about maybe Masters
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: or something like that with our girl, with our mates.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: If it was all our old Swifties team, I'd play it.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Have you?
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Only because I, do you know what I realised playing?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I'm a bit pissed that I denied myself for 20 years.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Like I finished the World Cup and I'm like, that's it,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I'm done. I love every Saturday, even this last Saturday
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: when I got hurt, you finish with all the endorphins
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and it's fun. Don't look at me like that.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: But I presume.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: No, well, now I'm wondering if I've missed out.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: You probably have because it's fun. We love our sport.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Why aren't we playing it? Why haven't I played?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: The Pan Pacific Masters Games, me managing a team. Oh,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: my God.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: You have to play. What do you mean managing it?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: You'll be playing.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You mentioned your Swift's.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: No, but I think you're in the inner circle these days.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, you get all the rumours before we do,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: so we need you to be playing.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Look, we need someone to organise it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: LAUGHTER And it just needs to be– I might need
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: to do it after the World Cup. So there's a
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: bit on between now and the next 12 months. But
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: then after that, if I've still got all my ligaments happening,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: even though I'll be in mid-50s by then, I just
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: forgot how much fun it was. But when I finished,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: it was a joy. I mean, we weren't paid for it,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: but it was so serious.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: It would have to have taken you a number of
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: years to go and enjoy it because you would have
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to reprogram– everything that you had known for 20 years
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: about netball.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: But I also didn't– like my fear is people go, oh,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: we'll show her. You know, like it's not– people just
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: coming at you and then also in your own head going, oh, God,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I'm so shit.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: And it's a bit of like– well, I'm playing Div
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: 1 in Ballina, right, and I've been in that association
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: now for seven or eight years while I've been coaching.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: So nobody has that, oh, we're going to get her
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: because everyone knows me and they know that I'm a Gumby.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: They've seen me trip over the air as I walk
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: to the courts on a Saturday. So and everyone's just
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: really lovely about it, right? So, but I think if
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: we played socially and there might be the odd person,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: but I actually think There wouldn't be that many people
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: who'd be wanting to.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: And is it getting less and less frustrating for you too?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Because I'd imagine the first game back when you thought,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I can do this. Oh, shit, no, I can't.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. No, I'm just, I'm quite comfortable with the
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: fact that I can't get everything that I want to.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Like that I see an intercept and I get, like
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: on the weekend, I took three steps towards it. And
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I missed that by a postcode, man.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: So you just laugh.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Like it's funny.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And I had some white bladder leak.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it would be fun to play
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: together again.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: This is so exciting.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I'm scared already.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: But it would have to be uber social. Like I'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: not doing anything competitive.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Me neither.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think you could do walking netball?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: No.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: We're too competitive.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I think I'm and, you know, my competitiveness doesn't come from,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: netball that comes through CrossFit, but I'm either on or
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I'm off. I think walking netball requires a level of
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: control that I'm not sure that I would have. Now,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I've never tried it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I will, but because I know
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I can still play social netball.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: But this season has taught me that I'm not what
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I used to be and now I'm comfortable with that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I reckon when I'm in my 60s, I'll be like, oh, yeah,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I'll play walking netball because you still get– Like it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: still fun. You're still doing something with your– like the
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: thing for me has been A, playing in all those endorphins,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: but B, I have loved playing in a team with
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: my daughter and if I was playing with a group
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: of friends, I'd like to play with a group of friends.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Are you scared of being injured? Like do you go
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: full pelt?
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Reasonably because that's and that's why i'm so i'm going
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: i've got a head injury and a back.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Injury no that would be my i would be not
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: going full pelt at all because i'd be scared.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah no i don't do oh well no i probably
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: do i can't help myself but i like these things
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: that i don't do like i don't i play gold
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: defense on the weekend for a half that's a gas
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: oh man i'm 30 i'm 30 years older than the
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: woman i was playing against who was a bit too
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: fast for my liking um So, but no, I don't
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: think about it. I think if you go on thinking
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: about injury, you're going to get injured. I don't go
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: and think about injury. I warm up sometimes and I think.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, you don't even warm up.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: What?
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I know I warm up.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: But sometimes I think, oh, this is, but I'm the
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: only one. Everyone laughs at me because I'm warming up
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and everyone's just standing around having a chat. Because they're
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: all made of elastic.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: Because they're 12.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Literally. I reckon if Liz Watson warms up, everyone else
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: should warm up.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: True.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Well, well, that's exciting, isn't it? So, uh, I don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: know whether anything's going to happen about this because obviously
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it requires me to organise it. But perhaps after the
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Netball World Cup there might be a no-drip or netball
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: team and that would be super fun. I would love
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that so much. Well, I think that's all we've got
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: time for. But what an amazing week we've had, Liz, in-house.
• 42:27
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• 42:30
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  Speaker 1: Let this cult take over the world. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I'm Kath Cork.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: I'm Liz Ellis.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Probably shouldn't have said that out loud about the team, though,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: because what if we do want to do a Swift
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: one or something rather, and now we'll have to say, oh,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: that's true, Carolyn, no go.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you started it. You'll have to finish it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Can't you help me? No, I did. Put your big
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: girl boy's pants on.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Or if we make a mascot, maybe we can just
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: get her up there. Unbeknownst to her, she's in the
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: team until we pass it over.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Should we give her the little Sporty No Dribble mascot?