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🍎 RHONY Recap plus Drones, Bethenny, Sprinkle Cookies, Holiday Flights and more · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Coming at you from Gross Pointe, Michigan, right outside of Detroit, Michigan.
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  Speaker 2: It is December twentieth, you guys, Friday, and we are
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  Speaker 2: going to be recapping the Real Housewives of New York.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of New York, Deanna Chang is coming to
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  Speaker 2: us live from New York. Deanna, is the snow falling there?
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  Speaker 3: It is just lightly falling. I'm looking at it out
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  Speaker 3: in the window and wow, wow, wow, what a picturesque scene.
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  Speaker 2: True, you know, and it is snowing here. So both
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  Speaker 2: of us gorgeous California gals are now amidst some beautiful
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  Speaker 2: falling West and East coast snow. Wow, it is nice.
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  Speaker 2: I will say, it is proper. It's the way it
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  Speaker 2: should be done. And the holiday season that is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and happy holidays to all, just so the darlings all know.
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  Speaker 2: I between the tech setting up a whole new tech
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  Speaker 2: system here, traveling family, I had real high hopes to
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  Speaker 2: be able to do two recaps today. The Southern Charm
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  Speaker 2: has been bumped to I don't know when. I'll probably
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  Speaker 2: do like a solo recap of that at some point.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this weekend or on Monday. So I just wanted
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  Speaker 2: to let you know, but happy that we could to
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  Speaker 2: at least talk about New York. Yeah, Deanna, just lovely
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  Speaker 2: to be here with you on different coasts. So happy holidays.
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  Speaker 4: I love you.
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  Speaker 3: Like I guess we can just be flexible like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like coast are not going to slow
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  Speaker 3: us down.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're really not. At a very unevent full trip,
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  Speaker 2: which was great. The flight was wonderful, everything was great.
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  Speaker 2: We left our home at four am, took a five
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  Speaker 2: forty five flight, and.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I know, what what airport do you catch?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we went to Lax because there's no direct flight
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  Speaker 2: to Detroit from Burbank, though that would be so ideal.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to do a transfer, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: connecting flight.
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  Speaker 3: How did you get from four am onto it five
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  Speaker 3: something flight from Santa Clarita.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, five forty five.
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  Speaker 4: That's why just feels like cutting it tight.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I see, well you know what it was pretty
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  Speaker 2: tight first of all. Yeah, truth be told. So we
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  Speaker 2: left it four We knew at least I know you
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  Speaker 2: were out the door at four. Well, let's say four ten.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say four oh five, four ten, Okay, we took
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  Speaker 2: we had a trans we had an uber, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and we weren't driving ourselves. Okay, okay, so you really
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  Speaker 2: deal with that time?
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, I guess parking time. Yeah, okay, great, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: uh dropped off. We checked our luggage outside. Always, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, if you do that, make sure you tip,
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  Speaker 3: because that's what they're it's a special service.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's very convenient. You just want to tip
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  Speaker 2: those folks inside. It's a different story outside. Tip. And
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  Speaker 2: then from there the only thing that we would have
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  Speaker 2: been just fine in terms of boarding on time, but
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  Speaker 2: we went and grabbed breakfast I mean meaning we were
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  Speaker 2: going to take it on the plane, and that took
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  Speaker 2: all longer than expected. It was ten minutes because we
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  Speaker 2: got like, you know, a little French toasticks and a
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  Speaker 2: breakfast sandwich. So while we walked up to the flight,
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  Speaker 2: they were like Brett Canell, Amy Phillips, Madeline Canel. They
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  Speaker 2: were calling us on working speaker. That has never happened
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  Speaker 2: to me ever. But it was not even it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: five forty five, obviously, it was five thirty five that
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  Speaker 2: we were walking up to the plane. Yeah, so I've
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  Speaker 2: never cut it that close before and that was because
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  Speaker 2: of the breakfast. If we had we not done that,
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  Speaker 2: we could have gotten snacks on the plane. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I just it's scary. You don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: going to be on there. We really no, I know,
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  Speaker 2: especially that early, and you just don't know. So I
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  Speaker 2: that was a mistake, but we made it. And uh
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  Speaker 2: but just truthful. Last, that would have been fine had
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  Speaker 2: we not gotten the breakfast. Last question five forty five
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  Speaker 2: was boarding no flight flight. Yeah, so it was tight.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Amy, you played games there, Okay, we did.
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  Speaker 4: You played. You played a lot of games right there.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell yeah, you got you were playing fast
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  Speaker 3: and loose.
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  Speaker 4: I know, we know we really did. And you're you
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  Speaker 4: saw it for what it is. Mattie.
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  Speaker 2: Mattie had to go to the bathroom. That's always a thing.
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  Speaker 2: So look, here's the thing. We would have gotten to
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  Speaker 2: that gate at five point fifteen if there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: child bathroom break and a.
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  Speaker 4: Breakfast and some friend sticks.
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  Speaker 2: We made room for that and that was where we
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we faltered. That being said, there's never
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  Speaker 2: traffic from Santa Claric aalex that early in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And then we landed at one o'clock this time, and
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  Speaker 2: so there's no traffic mostly from Detroit home, which is
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  Speaker 2: a nice game changer, very nice. But anyway, that night
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  Speaker 2: before I left, I didn't sleep at all because I
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  Speaker 2: had to pack and I had to clean the house
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  Speaker 2: and get it ready. So I didn't have any sleep
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever because everything. I was so busy with work and
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  Speaker 2: everything else that there was a shock. I had to
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  Speaker 2: pack for myself, I had to pack for Maddie. I
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  Speaker 2: had to clean the house. And while I was doing
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  Speaker 2: all that, everyone's you know, sleeping away. I had a
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  Speaker 2: great time, trust me, it was Oh, I had a
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  Speaker 2: great time. But I was watching I was on uh
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  Speaker 2: what do they call it, TikTok drone drone talk. I
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  Speaker 2: was on drunk.
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  Speaker 3: I literally just wrote about that on the How to
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  Speaker 3: Be Less old substack.
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  Speaker 2: If I had it in my mind to text you
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  Speaker 2: and say you better be covering the plasmoids, you are right.
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  Speaker 3: Literally just posted about it a few hours okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because i'mn'a check my email because I obviously am a subscriber.
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  Speaker 2: So let me see what we got here. Here we go, literally,
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  Speaker 2: the drone invasion is being too demure.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my God, it's not. That's hilarious. I love this
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  Speaker 4: so much.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, listen, you know what, you and I
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  Speaker 3: have both had our own separate journeys with Bethany Frankel.
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  Speaker 4: That's just a fact.
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  Speaker 2: But I preach on this.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I released her after the election because I did
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  Speaker 3: not like how she came for Alex Cooper on call
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  Speaker 3: her Daddy.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't like that she was being dicey with Bogu.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I unfollowed her everywhere, and I have been
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  Speaker 3: zooming past.
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  Speaker 4: You know, even if you're on follow, she's still going
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  Speaker 4: to try and get you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't follow her, and she's all up
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  Speaker 2: and I have her blocked on Instagram, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't get her shit over there.
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  Speaker 4: But TikTok, I can't quit her.
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  Speaker 3: Nowhere to run, nowhere to run, nowhere to hide. So
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  Speaker 3: between her covering Melissa's sprinkle cookies, that was amazing, very much.
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  Speaker 3: So she was right, Okay, okay, have you guys dealt
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  Speaker 3: with the sprinkle cookies.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't tried them yet, no, but I loved everything
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  Speaker 2: she said about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I didn't know if you've covered it on
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  Speaker 3: the podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that they they it looks like a
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  Speaker 4: perfect Housewives product.
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  Speaker 2: It's so exciting and Bethany's right, the packaging, everything about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's beautiful, adorable, The cookies sound delicious. It's it's a
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  Speaker 3: perfect callback. It's simple. It's not extraordinarily priced. You know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the Housewives try to charge like.
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  Speaker 2: It does dreams kind of expensive, isn't it forty four
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  Speaker 2: dollars for this box of four cookies or something?
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  Speaker 3: No, you can get like a twenty dollars thirty five
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  Speaker 3: thirty Oh are they expensive for cookies?
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  Speaker 4: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: But like if you're giving someone a fun gift and
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  Speaker 3: it's like a nod, a Housewives nod.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad that you did the research on this.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think it's a decent price for
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  Speaker 3: something that's a good cookie plus a fun nod. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm putting those two things. Those two things have value great.
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  Speaker 3: So like a she by sure, right, jogger is going
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  Speaker 3: to cost you one ninety you know, so like right,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to just casually hand a jogger to a friend,
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  Speaker 3: you know it just no.
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  Speaker 4: You're not gonna do that. No one's gonna do it. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you're yeah, no one's able to do that any who.
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  Speaker 3: So between her her review of the Sprinkle Cookies and
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  Speaker 3: her being the president of Drone Talk, I'm I had
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  Speaker 3: to cite her as a correspondent on my post you
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  Speaker 3: know you.
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  Speaker 2: Should, and I've I will give it to bethany anytime
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  Speaker 2: she gets it right. And she's nailed it on both accounts,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of those cookies and on Drone Talk. And
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  Speaker 2: thank you for mentioning all, mentioning it at all in
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  Speaker 2: how to Be Less Old, And this is why I
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  Speaker 2: love how to Be Less fucking Old, Substack. This is
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  Speaker 2: why these are the things you go from right to
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  Speaker 2: you don't know where you're like a drone, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know where you're gonna go or show up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then you pep in on the most poignant things.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not it's not always in the exact same niche,
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  Speaker 2: but you get into all the little nooks and crannies,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why.
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  Speaker 5: I like it so So you and I are living
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  Speaker 5: parallel universes in that I was on Drone Talk and
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  Speaker 5: between her.
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  Speaker 2: Between her posts, and then of course it led me
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  Speaker 2: to so many more. I was introduced to plasmoids, which
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea that even existed. And it's all
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  Speaker 2: blowing my mind. It's all so fascinating and truly miraculous.
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  Speaker 2: It's certainly not something that we're going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to even begin to scratch the surface of. But just
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  Speaker 2: know that it's.
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  Speaker 4: On our radar, it's on everybody's radar.
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  Speaker 2: We're aware. And so look, I don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what you think of Bethany, but it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: When she gets the content right, she gets the content
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  Speaker 2: right right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is what she does.
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  Speaker 3: She man's an area, you know, she she has institutional
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  Speaker 3: knowledge about an area. She has people reporting to her
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  Speaker 3: from this CAA and beyond, you know, with information. It's
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  Speaker 3: like and she has credibility when it I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, and curiosity and that, and so we're part of
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  Speaker 2: it along.
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  Speaker 3: She goes hard, you know, and then you can't help
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  Speaker 3: but get swept up in it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say, just lastly on Bethany's TikTok, she
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  Speaker 2: recently reviewed Harry Hamlin's Sauce and just gave it a
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  Speaker 2: horrible review. I mean, just ripped it to shreds, not
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: just once, but twice. Okay, so she was sent the product.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I was like, Wow, that's just
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, why would you do that?
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  Speaker 4: Number one?
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  Speaker 2: This is a housewife, she's in your zeitgeist. It's just
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: don't even bother talking about the what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: That's just mean.
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  Speaker 4: However, but then.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the follow up second video because she was
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  Speaker 2: told by Amelia Rinna's daughter, like because she tasted it
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  Speaker 2: cold and was like just ripped it to shreds, was
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  Speaker 2: just you know, it's awful, and then Amelia's like, you
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  Speaker 2: have to warm it up, and so she warmed it
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  Speaker 2: up and then tasted it again and then was like
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  Speaker 2: it's even worse and so.
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  Speaker 4: Hotly cow. It's like fall back Hammel's.
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  Speaker 2: It was Hammels. But she's basically saying like, this is
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  Speaker 2: what happens when you have people making a product that
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: you I'm sure it's great in your kitchen, but then
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  Speaker 2: after all of putting it into a jar and sending
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  Speaker 2: it out, something happened between then and here, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not good. And then her point is this, and this
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  Speaker 2: is what changed my mind about her in this Hamlin review,
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  Speaker 2: because I was really frank, like what just what an asshole, Like,
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  Speaker 2: why are you doing this to her?
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  Speaker 4: You probably know RHNNA, Yes, you know RNA. Yeah, just
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  Speaker 4: why are.
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  Speaker 2: You shredding her? Like go after pray go, like why
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  Speaker 2: shred them? But it's not it's not like she picked
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  Speaker 2: it up and was like, oh, this is what I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna do today. No, so she gets sent. She came
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  Speaker 2: back on again, probably a third time. It was like,
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  Speaker 2: look you guys, wow, I am sent tons of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: If you want.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, listen, Amy, I know I haven't even
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  Speaker 3: talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: I even like yeah, but she felt it.
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  Speaker 2: She probably did, yeah yeah, And she was like, I
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  Speaker 2: if you don't want an honest review from me, you
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  Speaker 2: must not send me something. So in right ways, if
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  Speaker 2: that the marketing people for Hamlin's Sauce, they obviously know
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  Speaker 2: what Bethany does because this is what she does. People
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  Speaker 2: send your stuff for their honest reviews. So if you
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: want to be reviewed honestly, you better be ready for
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: an honest review because she's gonna be no bullshit about it.
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  Speaker 2: And and so that's why when the Sprinkle Cookies came around,
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  Speaker 2: I was delighted for Melissa and knowing how much she
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  Speaker 2: was praising everything about it because she's not going to
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  Speaker 2: give you any bullshit. And so that's why people like
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  Speaker 2: her reviews, because she's not necessarily getting paid off. People
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  Speaker 2: are sending her stuff on the hope hopefully that she's
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  Speaker 2: actually going to like it. So in many ways, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, well, Hamlin, this is your fault. You know
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  Speaker 2: what she does or Hamlin marketing. She's not going to
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  Speaker 2: do you any favors just because you're this, that or
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  Speaker 2: the other thing. She doesn't care. She's going to say
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  Speaker 2: what it is.
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  Speaker 3: So I thought, well, and I'm sure he thinks his
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  Speaker 3: sauce is good, so you know, I have to imagine
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  Speaker 3: he thinks it's good, I would think. So he sent
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  Speaker 3: it with the thought that she love it, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, which is too bad.
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  Speaker 4: But I bet you literally did see the review.
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  Speaker 3: But I didn't know it was Harry Hamlin's sauce, so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't understand why she was making like where she
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh my, oh god. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know why it was such a big deal because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard of that sauce. REOs is my whole life.
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  Speaker 3: I lived my whole life by Rayos. It's my favorite sauce.
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  Speaker 4: The planet and I get a Costco and I know
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  Speaker 4: you do too.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, thank you, thank you. So that being said,
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  Speaker 2: I completely had a one eighty on her in the
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  Speaker 2: Hamlet Sauce review because I was like, well, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: If you people are going to want to send you stuff,
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  Speaker 2: they better know this is what you this is what
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  Speaker 2: you do, So don't send it if you don't want that.
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  Speaker 4: And they shouldn't have sent it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: No one should shudn't send her shit if they don't
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  Speaker 2: want an honest review, period dot. So I have to
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: ack her up on that. And then the drone talk
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: stuff is just fantastic. So AnyWho, you guys, glad we
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: got all that out of the way and now we
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: can get into the Real Housewives of New York.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Ohb duh.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: So I know that so many of us were upset
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: about the second prank that occurred, Sienna, how did you feel.
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  Speaker 3: Second prank? Okay, first prank was roaches in the in
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  Speaker 3: the pie. Oh second yeah, okay, okay, we had roaches
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: in the in the specialty dessert. Then we had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: rumors that Rebecca was part of a gang bang and pregnant,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: that pregnant impregnated by a fellow that wasn't her husband.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Third prank is what jess souls suitcase. I don't even
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: file that under prank. I file that under get the
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: fuck out of here.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You know, just come on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so annoyed because that is a very
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: scary feeling.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, horrible feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's Aarin has some serious issues. She likes
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: to in some level torture people in a very odd way.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's very strange what she does. And honestly,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the suitcase almost seemed worse than the Rebecca Minkov is
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  Speaker 2: pregnant with you, because it's like she is wandering all
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: around the house looking for her suitcase.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Is it was it payback? Did did?
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  Speaker 2: Did?
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  Speaker 1: Did?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Did someone do that to Aaron last year? I want
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like they had another situation where that happened,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: but there was a cell phone situation.
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  Speaker 4: No erin was the she did that. She's sick because
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: this is like she's sick in the head, mother sick.
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  Speaker 2: When you have personal items like that, it is very scary.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: When you're in a different place and you've lost your
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: personal items, You're like, I don't know if I need
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to be calling I don't know, if I need to
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: be on the phone with the airline, if I need
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to be on the phone with Apple, what am I doing?
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  Speaker 2: And it's just a panic that you don't need and
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: it's stressful and I don't like that, and so fuck
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you Aaron for that. I'm really upset about that. Now
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: let's move on. We're here this week, and I'm okay
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to continue on and just separate myself from that trocity. Okay, Yeah,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: now we are. We're in Puerto Rico and we are
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: picking up at the dinner where Brynn is talking about
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: she has a problem. Well, they're talking about the room situation,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and Rebecca had wanted to have her own room and
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: she had said, well, I thought, you know, I have kids,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: and so it's just and then she says to Brin
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: it's different, you know, because Brin's like, we no, we're
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: all busy. She's like, well, I have kids, so I
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: don't know when you stay busy. I didn't say, oh, yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: that's right. What did she say?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Which I appreciate it because I was kind of saying
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that along with her. I've been speaking along with certain
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: people on this show, right right, you know, I've been
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: chiming in, you know, over here.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so she right.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: She We had a little taste of what felt like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: last episode at the end of the episode that Rebecca
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: was going to sort of lay into her.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: We didn't quite get that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: No, I was like, and you're like Jenna Lyons, so
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna get do sort of start things like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, get in there.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: It, get in here, do something.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Rebecca's like, I thought, I did. I mean I did
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: think she did a good job in that moment to
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: be like I didn't say busy, I said had kids,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And that was really she really she insulted her, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: she she definitely used it in a way to check her. Now,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I think she's right in the sense that there is
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: definitely something to that when somebody I understand what Rebecca
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: was saying, but it does come across as completely smug
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and also dismissive, and you'll know you're not in that situation.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm a little better, so I understand how it can
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: rub people the wrong way because you do say something
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: like that, it can be taken way wrong if you
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: say it in the wrong way, and she said it
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: in the wrong way. But she said it the wrong
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: way on purpose, and so I don't blame her because
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Brnn has been pissing her off this whole time.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So good on.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Her, right, right, Yeah, you're right, cause if it's like certain,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it's sort of like, well, yeah, she's one hundred percent correct.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: You can't calculate what it is to just not have
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: for your body, to kind of not be your own
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and have children lying on top of you. That's its
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: own thing. But when when people who don't have kids,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I can I can't imagine what
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: that is. I can also like I also am still
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: a person who has other things that may need privacy,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and who knows. Maybe I'm very flatulant and I need
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: my own space for that reason.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: It's like, don't you know there's a lot of reasons
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: for why you should have a nice room to yourself.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, but.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Brynn was I thought it was a ridiculous response from her,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and she just wants to paint this Rebecca. I just
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: think Brynn is so like it's interesting, and I know
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: there's something wrong with me because Aaron doesn't land on
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: me as hard as I know she should. For some reason,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I give her. I cut her a lot of slack
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and I don't know why. I don't know why, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: but Brynn feels more mean spirited for means spirded sake.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Aaron feels more like I'm on a TV show and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: this is I think what I'm needed is needed pranks
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: and shenanigans, you know what I mean. Like, I kind
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: of feel like it comes from that.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Please, that's really funny, I hear you. Actually, I'm going
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to really take that into consideration.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: That's really funny. Okay, I'm listening. I'm listening, all right,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And again, it may just be a way for me
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to just give myself a break for not taking Aaron
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: to task, like I know I probably should.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'm too large. I just know that,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like I'd be freaking the heck out and I would
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: not like that. And then when someone's I think someone
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: must have told Jessel someone did take your suitcase as
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a joke, and that's why she was like, okay, you guys,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: come on, where is it? Come on? Where is it?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Which is why Aaron's like, Okay, it's over there. So
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: clearly they had to like the jig is up, because
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Essa was gonna have a nervous breakdown. But I just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: left it for so long. She leaves her jokes out
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: there for too long. The Uba wing that's the thing,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the prank, I hear right, that's what it is, Deanna.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: It's insane that she would dip back into the same
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: well after what went down with Uba.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It's insane, yeah, because if she just cuts the prank
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: by like fifteen minutes, then we might have a little
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: bit of a relief laugh. But she does it for
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: like twenty five thirty minutes. Like UBA's phone was practically
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: gone all night long, you know.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so totally anyway, it just it's not fun at all.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: But anyway, getting back to Brinn and her overreaction, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: think to Rebecca was I think a combination of oh,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: she's responding to me finally, and so now I've got
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: something to pop off right back at her and now
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: let's play. I think was part of it, which was
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: like whoa, oh, I see.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Its like a little bit too yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: But at the end, when Rebecca did apologize to her
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: after she was told that, you know, she and Gideon
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: were trying to figure this out, I think it was
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: really great of Rebecca to say she was sorry first,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and also for Rebecca to somewhat recant her overreaction and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: then open up and say, you know, the Gideon thing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: he's having a hard time trying to get this to happen,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and this is really frustrating. It's hard and it's difficult
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: for me, which is why I had that type of reaction.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So I appreciated her vulnerability coming out in that and
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: all is forgiven. I mean, it does seem like it's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: not moving in that direction at all, even in real time,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: because when Brenn was on Watch or Happens Live, she
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: did say there has been no movement in that space.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Damn. That's hard.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: And I have had such a hard time though with her.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: And I don't like the Gideon thing. It's not that
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think you can have It's not because you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: shouldn't have a baby with someone you're not white with
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: with there's just I find her very manipulative and I
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: feel that she's using his adoration for her to do this,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and it just freaks me out, Like I just.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Don't like it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Did you have any shift in that thinking when she
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: told her story about the assault and that her kneeling
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: can't really she doesn't want to wait to be fully
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: healed to have a child because she doesn't know when
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that's going to happen, so she's.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Technically I get why she's doing it, you know, one
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: hundred percent. I just think it's I guess it would.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It's like if a guid, if a guy did that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to a woman, I think we'd see it differently. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: think that because he's so I think in love with
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: her is where it feels, because I think she's just
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: using that to get what she wants and not including
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: him at all. Like I'm you know, I'm like, I'm
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the soule parent, like we'll maybe let you in. There's
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: just something about it. I just don't like it. It
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: feels so usurish to me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel clean for a child to like,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: oh we'll figure it out later, what will actually happen.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And that's very true, Yeah it is.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: But then like la la, you know, is the sperm
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: make better? Probably not. I don't know. I have no idea.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I think I like, using Gideon's sperm to make a
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: baby is not what doesn't make sense to me?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: That makes sense to me. There's just a manipulation piece.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: That feels like he may feel that that that that
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: means more than it does.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Oh right, I see what you mean. Wow, did you
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: know that he works he works with Mauricio.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Did you know that? Shut up?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what she said on Watch Happens Live, because
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: after she said nothing has happened in that area, she
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, getting in works for the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: agency with Mauricio. So he's he's never home. He's always
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you know, flying around with those boys and stuff. Isn't
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that crazy?
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Can't imagine it? Can't imagine him selling real estate. He
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: does doesn't seem like his area. Is he a real
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: estate broker?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I had no idea that he was, and that I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: guess he is weird. Also, I mean Mauricio, we talked
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit about it yesterday. But Mauricio out in
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Aspen and taking that gal over to Chemo Sabi, Wow,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that is wow. Wow.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Holidays to the Motherland geez Okay.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Well, at that dinner in New York, I did appreciate
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Sy breaking the tension after Rebecca and Brinn were, you know, arguing,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: saying like Si, that Shenna's pussy hair right like a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: wet cat laugh, and Jenna's like, oh my gosh, I
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: just well, all right, I just it means.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you know size, having you know size, I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a little bored, but like she's a.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Good addition to what we have. You know.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I love her. I think she's great. I really do.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And she's pretty uncensored and she says what she says,
• 29:00
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• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: in New York and I am in Michigan. The snow
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  Speaker 2: is falling amid both of us. So it is the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: next morning in Puerto Rico and Raquel is, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: waiting for her mom to arrive. She has a conversation
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: with Cy. They talk about her mom and how her
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: mom has had these excuses for coming to New York,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: COVID and then the dog and all this stuff and Si.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: She and Si really, I really love their friendship and
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: me too. They've been bonding a lot, and I think
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Ci does a great job with filling in some of
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the blanks for this and relating with her because of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: these you she's had with her mom. And in her
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: confessional she says that a lot of old school Latinas
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: have a hard time admitting their faults and that they
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: sweep things under the rug. And so she is there
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: for rock Helen a way that perhaps maybe some of
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: the other ladies can't be, and so I love that
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: she can relate to her on that level.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like I was having the same
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: exact thought, and I'm like, this is this is the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: vision I think Andy had when he put together a
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: more diverse, new younger New York, right, Like this, this
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: is it. And you can't manufacture that type of connection
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: just because it's cultural and there's a frame of reference
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: that you have to have in order to understand it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: And like, wow, that's great. That's what's so cool about
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: having to Are they both Puerto Rican?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I believe so size Puerto Ricana. They're both Puerto Rican. Yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: So you know that's cool. I love it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: It is cool.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: So it's just it's just been it's just been rough overall.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: But like that is the stuff that I think the
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: purpose of putting this show together, And like having that,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: it's just like, oh, I wish we could have, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: more of that. I like walk Hell so much and
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I like her story and I feel like it's getting
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: a little lost, but yeah, I.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Love that loved.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: You know. SI continues to talk about her mother, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: she does say in her confession know that she her
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: mom gave up on her life and she still resents
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: her for that, for allowing addiction to take over her life.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It is tough, and that she acknowledges that she wasn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the mother that she was when she raised her. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's really important. I know that's happened. People
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: can really relate like that, relate to people. There are
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of people who can relate with that. And
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I know several people who are in a similar situation
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: where the parent who was there when they were growing
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: up is just not at all who they became or
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: evolved into becoming later in their life. And that's really
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: hard to back ensile, thank you. That's that's the word. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: very difficult.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: It totally.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: It's got to be a real mind f you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: just like oh, okay, you got your groove back and
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: you're now doing X, Y and Z and or whatever
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: they can, or you've fallen apart, and you know, yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: whatever it is, I think that is really really hard.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, truly. So Raquel says that she's been talking to
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: her mom and they've had a little bit of headway
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: because her mom opened up about having these heart palpitations,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and Raquel said, well, maybe it's anxiety, which totally makes
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: sense because it was two weeks ago from this trip,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: so she's anticipating seeing Raquel, and I would imagine she's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: has a ton of anxiety, so it could very much
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: be that. So let's see. Oh yeah. Then Raquel's mom
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: arrives and her boyfriend's there too, and it's a beautiful, beautiful,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: beautiful of reuniting of the two of them, and it
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't get to like they keep it together, as Raquel
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: says later, and they do a really good job at
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: being excited to see each other. The iPad thing was
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: just like, you know, she didn't think she thought it
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: was charged. She hasn't been using it, but I guess
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: people don't understand when you don't use a device, it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: gonna lose its battery. And so the whole thing about facetiming,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think the FaceTime even happened with the grandkids
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that did it. It didn't seem like it didn't.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: She was way younger seeming, and like with it in
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: cool way more than I was anticipating. I was anticipating
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: more of like a a mama that was like classic,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: you know, like an old boil O exactly. And I'm like, oh,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: this woman is super cool with it. Yeah, and I
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: was cold. So, I mean, she hasn't seen a picture,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: she was. I mean, she hasn't seen a photograph, she
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: hasn't hit the FaceTime button.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: That seemed very strange to me.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Well, very sad, very deep, and it just shows that
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: she just has like completely caught her off. I was
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: really impressed by the way Raquel was like, oh and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: look at the pictures and like let's reset. Yeah, boy,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: did she handle that well. And to hear her say
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: are you excited to see them? And to have her
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: leave and say, you know, I'm worried about flying, you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: my anxiety and my heart palpitations, and it just starts
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to sound like excuses. But when Raquel said, we'll fly
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: out here and come get you and bring you back,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and the mom seemed very down for that, but I
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: don't who knows that she's gonna do you think she's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: gonna come through?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's why I was confed.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I was confused because it didn't there was no feeling
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: around it of like there's a lot of tension. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: didn't feel any tension heavy tension between them. The mom
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: seemed pretty open. It was confusing. I didn't understand what
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: was going on with her mom. And maybe it is
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: all health stuff and she's genuine. I mean, it probably isn't,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: but yeah, she may be putting on an act for
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: the cameras and to your point, won't show up and
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: was never going to show up and is never going
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: to have her iPad charge to see the kids, Like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: oh wow, but why are you? But she did a
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: television show which seems like a really big deal and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: really crazy.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I was I mean, I didn't think she was going
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to show up at all.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Deanna Wow.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I was very worried because the way that she was
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: talking to Si and she said, you know, we'll see
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: she's planning on coming here, and she said she's excited,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and I thought this is going to not She's going
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: to be a no show. So I was shocked she arrived,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and I was shocked that she was saying the things
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that she said and was so positive.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's either putting on a bit of an act
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: or there's a deep disconnect and confusion about like why
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: her mom, Like, I don't think her mom is said
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: point blank anything to the effect of, you know, you,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: being a lesbian is going to put distance between us, Like, I.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Don't think those words have been said.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I think Raquel's been filling in the blanks, which of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: course you would, but who knows what's going on.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I don't. I was confused. I really thought it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Was I don't I hate to be this way, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of an insensitive of Brinn.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Didn't.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Brynn comes in and she kisses Jenna on the lips.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: That's just who she is and that's just what she does,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Like she didn't think about it at all, and that's fine.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: But then when they were kind of making a point
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of size, like that's weird. I can't believe she did that.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: And then they came over and then Jenna's like, oh,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a kiss, And then she kissed all
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the women on the lips. And I thought, well, I mean,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you know the story, her mom's obviously sound comfortable. It
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: was okay, good, I thought it was. I just thought,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: why would you do that? I mean, you want to
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: make people feel comfortable. And I'm not saying that it's
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: okay to be homophobic. That's not what I'm saying at all.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, be sensitive to the situation. It's just
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: odd to me that she would make that choice.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're just up their own butts
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: and aren't thinking, or they wanted to have a moment,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: who knows. I mean, yeah, I thought, like, give this one.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Let her take her coat off, you know.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: She Yeah, I think you might be right about that.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: They're just they weren't thinking and they're just being themselves.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And that's great. That would have been just fine on
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: a regular day in the world of our lives. But
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: the mom and the boyfriend were sitting at that table,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: right unless they edited it in a way there were
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: they weren't even in the room, and they edited it
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to look like they were, so that then that would
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: be something that we would be thinking happened, and it
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: actually didn't happen.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Right, I mean, but then they talked about it in
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: the know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I think it was Cy who said they're gonna think
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: or Jessel that we're just having like a giant, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: lesbian romp over here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Right, that's true. She did say that, yeah, and Raquel's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: probably not gonna say anything or make a big deal
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: out of it. But I could see in another situation
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: if it was another person like, why are you doing this?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: What are you doing? Hello? Can you just breathe?
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Put a pen in it?
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, so before we move on, I just want
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to say that I did love when Rebecca and Jen
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Jenna and Jessel were talking and uh, besides like do.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I look rich? Do I? Because I like to feel rich? Yeah?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I just love cute. And that's when Jenna I was like, Rebecca,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: when are you going to get into it with Brnn
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: like stir it up or whatever.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Jenna was like, I'm not really a housewife, like I'm
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: doing this for my lashes, but I do know that
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: you should actually like she's kind of been pushing you
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: against the wall for the last three weeks, so it's time.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It was so strange to see Jenna try and tee
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: up some drama, very unlike the Jenna that entered this show.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: It just goes to prove that all housewives can, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: reform themselves into the housewives structure because they know how.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: It works, right, Like She's like, I only know very little,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: but I do know this, Like at some point you
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: need to use your.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Words, use them, use them.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, this was amazing, Jessel. When the mom was like, oh, yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you know, she came down after Maria, and Jessel's like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and Maria is is that your cousin or you know
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the fact that she I died? I was like, this
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: is amazing. And then Aaron's confessional saying, Jesselton is where
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: you're always getting ready for the ball.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: It's so perfect.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: It's a perfect character, Like Jessel is just feminine and
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: light and ditsy and innocent, and you know, there's just something.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: It's just perfect. It's amazing, amazing. So they go shopping
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: in town and we've got the two groups. We've got
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Brenn and Aaron and Jenna who are just having a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: very organic, lovely time and they end up having drinks
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and Brynn loves it when Aaron drinks, and then you
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: have Jenna loves it when Jenna drinks, Brynn loves it.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Oh Brinnan loves it when Jenny drinks.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they love it when thank you, Okay, I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: got I got it because she loosens up her little self.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Well that makes way more sense.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And then the other groups Si, Uba and Jessel and Raquel,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: but mostly Si and Uba and maybe some Jessel. They're
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: like the group of as they call them, group of influencers,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and they're just having their moments and their outfits. And
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just like hysterical the difference.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Between the groups. Where would you be.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I would not be in the influencer group, no way.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: How about you?
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'd be having drinks and looking at it Dick pics.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: You know that was amazing. I thought, this is it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the time and the place for a Dick pic. You know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that was the time and the place for Dick pick.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I had no problem with it. I thought, wow, I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: really didn't. At the lunch when so many people had
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: an issue with it, I thought, well, yeah, you should
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: have an issue with it, but not with the group
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that it was. There was no issue there. I think
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it completely depends on the situation and the people. So right, organically,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: happened where Jenna's like, okay, size large. I don't think
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: there's anything large about Abe, and then Aaron's like, well
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: do you want to see? And then it just it
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: was funny to me. And honestly, I don't think my god,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Brett would die. I mean, I would never do that
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to Brett. But again, it depends on the people and
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the person in the situation and the D and I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: mean everything.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: So I don't think a ABE would have a problem.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: That it depends on the D itself. Don't count out
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: that it does.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: These are all factors, okay, right, I mean I do
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: not see my friend's you know, husband's dess. I don't know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: But like, it just completely depends upon the situation. That's
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying. Now, man, ask you a question. Yes,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: of course I had a different reaction. I was horrified.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I was disturbed. I was shook it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I'm agook it sure, because I just thought, like, if
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: a husband showed his pals a vagina, his wife's vagina,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: there's no way that would be fun. And there's just
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: no path to that being okay that I can see.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's somewhere I need to maybe I need
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: to loosen up.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You know, you always make a great point by saying,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: and this is always something that sometimes I don't think about,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: but you are very good at saying if a man
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: did this, how would this come across? And if a
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: woman did this, how would this come across? And I mean,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I can't argue with that that would be completely inappropriate.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: And I guess I look at it in the sense
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: that probably an antiquated view where it's different between men
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: and women, and a D isn't and shouldn't be as
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: revered as of as of veget so in that respect, Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: These are always getting floated around like fright.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, wait, so I called it meat mail,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: which really made me laugh.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: That was amazing.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: That was amazing, mushroom.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I guess to that, I think, what what maybe.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: You're saying, and like I want to lean into that.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: A little bit more is you're like, Okay, we're dealing
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: with the former you know, CFO or whatever her title
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: was of j crew head designer, head stylist, whatever it was.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: We've got hardcore lesbian Jenna Lyons.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: We've got Brinn who's been trying to get with Abe
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: in a playful way.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: This whole time.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: We have Aaron and Gate and Abe who may or
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: may not swing a little bit.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: Here and there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: So all in if we put that, and we've got
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: a nice a nice d So what we put all
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: of those ingredients is in a in a little soup
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: and we swirl it around.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: It's not that deep, right, which is what Aaron said
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: at the table. She's like, don't make this and do
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a big deal, like especially because you weren't even there
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and I didn't show it to you. I'm not going
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: to show it to you.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Right, But I don't know how Abe would feel about that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not convinced he's thrilled about it, but maybe he is.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, and you have a great point, because
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: at the table, when people were starting to have a
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: problem with that, Aaron did say, oh geez, well, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: mean god, I hope that I didn't do anything wrong
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: or else I'm going to really feel bad. So she
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: was starting to second guess herself about that she did
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: that to Abe. I would think that before she even
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: showed it and even had the thought to do that,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: she would automatically think Abe would not care if I
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: did this. So she really surprised me at the lunch
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: by saying, gosh, I'm starting to feel bad because I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: hope that he's okay with this, I thought, oh shit, well,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: if you didn't think he would be, then that's not
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: good either. I thought immediately she would have the idea
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: if she was going to do that, Abe wouldn't give
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: two shits if I showed his jem, you would love it, right,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I had him thinking she's very confident that
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't care. But then if he does end up caring,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a whole different scenario, and then
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: that's not good. That's definitely not good. That's definitely not good.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: So I wouldn't approve in that situation. But if all
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of the other factors in the equation are there, like
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: we were just saying, then I don't have a problem
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: with that. Everything just has a time and a place.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that that had a time and
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: a place, but I'm happy to know it does. Like
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I wasn't aware there was a time and place to
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: see my pals husband's d but now I know that
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: if the right ingredients are there.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: That like, yeah, it can line up. But I know
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: someone could.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Are you that Brnn is the last person you would
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: want to show that too. And I would also say
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that's probably not good that you showed her. The fact
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: that she showed Jenna, I'm all for. I'm like, I
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that from beginning to end.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: So Jenna seemed truly pleased by it, like she was
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: delight she was surprised and delighted, which was nice.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Very nice, very nice. So so funny that that even happened.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: And uh, what if it's a prank? Oh my god,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: what if she showed somebody else's d No, it's just
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: a picture.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: It sip porn. She pulled that up pretty quick. Amy.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: If it's a rank, we can't come back from it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: I will start tipping cows like I can't.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I will start don't Niana, don't talk crazy now, Deanna.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: When you start threatening cow tipping, I know that you
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: get serious here. I don't know.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I will just like run into the streets and kick
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: over trash cans like I will not be able to
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: go forward.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I actually will have to bow out.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: And I and I love doing the podcast with you,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: and I love talking about New York together, but I
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: won't be able to survive it, and I do want
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to say that publicly right now, I can't.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I completely understand. I would absolutely respect that choice. And
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know she back from that either. So she
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: showed base.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: They the reactions, they're not that good, they're not that
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Oh you're saying it could be now it was.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: So again, we're talking about lining things up.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: So much would have to line up in order for
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: us to get that moment organically, for her to have
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: a faux dick on her phone.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: No, okay, there's no way.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, was she on Watch What
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Happens Live? No, she wasn't, because wait when when was she? Okay,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: so I don't know who was on Watch what Happens
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Live on Tuesday night? But I do know that my
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: my video, my twenty my ten Days of Bravo Christmas aired?
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Was it last night? I don't know, but anyway, watch
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: what happens? Yeah, my ten.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I have you know, I've been dealing with some things
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and I've been off social media completely, so like I
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: didn't even know what you had going on.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Did I say ten? I meant twelve? Twelve Days of
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Christmas is twelve days of Bravo Christmas is what I did,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: and I did the video. I did it and for
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Watch Happens Live it aired and then they also posted
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the the on social the full version, so that aired
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: with bronwyn On and Melissa Gorga.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, so that was super Wow, that's
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: really fun.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Was Melissa talking about her cookies? She was there talking
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: about her cookies.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Wow, mm hmmm. So Jessel was on Aaron wasn't. That's
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: who was on for representing New York. It was Jessel
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: and Kyle as a matter of fact, So I was
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: gonna say, we would have gotten an answer about it then, right,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: and Andy would definitely jump on that, you know, probably
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: probably asked for a little looxie. So any who. After that,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: then we go to oh yeah, so oh that was
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: funny at the lunch when then they showed Jessel's feet
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: in comparison to Kim Kay and they sent it to
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the group chat. Who wore it best? Kim Kay n Jess, Well,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: that was very funny. It's like I've been walking around
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: all day and she's pregnant.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: Come on, how could you? Oh no, no, no, my
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: feet off.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: That was really cute. And then Rebecca pulls Bryn aside
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: and apologizes, which was a lovely ending and it was fine. Yeah,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: perps and she apologizes back. So that was it. It's
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: pretty much it. Go ahead, Diana, You're to say something
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and then I want to ask you a question.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, mm hmm no, I'm realizing.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Did something happen?
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I think I have.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm just looking at Twitter to see if
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: there's any updates on abes d if it was a prank.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: No one is saying that it is, and there are
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: most people are disagreeing with the fact that she should
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: have sent that or showed them that. So people are
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: more on your side than nine.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: Look, look, yeah, listen, that's that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I definitely feel like even though New York has been difficult,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: at least you know, this was fine to watch. I'm
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: fine with it. I am in it. We just they
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: need to continue to give us more solid episodes in
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: the future, and hopefully when we come back from the
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: holiday break we will receive those.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I will before we wrap up.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I do want to speak to the Uba thing at
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: the end, because Uba, to me, did not have a
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: strong reaction at all at the table to me. She said,
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: and I quote, I would be dump if I showed
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Oliver's dick. I would be She said, I would be
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: dump if I showed Olive's stick, Right, That's what she said. Yeah,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: that's not that strong of a reaction. I actually thought
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: it was a light reaction, and I thought she was
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: just stating the facts.
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  Speaker 2: Who said she had a strong reaction. Aaron oh Year and.
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  Speaker 3: Bryn at the end where she's like, I wouldn't say, like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: I can never tell whether UBA's gonna have such an
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: intense reaction. And then Brinn jumped on that and she
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, like when they were in the car together,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: she was like, did you see how they reacted?
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Did you see how Uba like had this like.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Super strong reaction, which I really like Uba.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I get a kick out of her. I get a
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: kick out.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Of her like little asides and her little things. And
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: this is what these girls do to her where they
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: this is why she looks batshit on this show because
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: they guess like her, like classic, classic, no way to
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: cut it. They are her and then she feels crazy
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: and she is then she has a really strong reaction.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yes, I completely agree, and you're right. I
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: didn't even get I didn't. I think I was wrapping
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: up and then I was trying to set up my
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: new situation whipment. So I think at the very end
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  Speaker 2: I lost grasp of what happened then, and I didn't
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: realize they were really leaning into Uba having such a
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: huge reaction. I completely agree because I could see everyone
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: in the world being like, I would never do that
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: to my husband, just like I said, I was like,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: I would never do that to Wrap.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: But in this situation, and as we pointed out.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: If everything aligns and it's a perfect you know, you're
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: gonna have any clips, you know, but it's any clip
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: situation clips.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally clips of the heart. It's not every
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: daylipse of the d you know. Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Uba just had a normal ass reaction,
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: right that actually seemed kind of lighthearted to me. So
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I these two seem to like to cause some trouble
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: and then pin it on Uba, and I'm like, guys,
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: and then Uba does look like she's overreacting then, because
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: her that reaction when she knows she's been pinned against
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: the wall by frickin' frack, she gets yes, she's like wow,
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: you know, yes, totally.
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  Speaker 2: You are so right. I'm so glad that you pointed
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that out because we're going to see the backlash of
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: that next week, and UBA's not wrong, and everybody who
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: has a problem with that is not wrong.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: So you're like, I don't I am expecting to get
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: floated some husband's d's in the next in the following
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: few months throw.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: My way, Darling. I don't want to. I don't want them.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: I don't have any interest. I think it would be
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: inappropriate for me to see that. But I am also
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: open to total eclips of the D happening in my life.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I would not you know.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Right, Wow, I actually if you have a totally eclipse
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: of the D like I'm actually twenty twenty five, I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: do hope you find your way to a total eclipse
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: of the D.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate that you. Thank you so much.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Diana Chang.
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• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: you so much for listening to to this episode of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Rony and I will be back soon you guys. We
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: are doing anatomy of a line next week.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: Drama.
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  Speaker 2: Bye for now, Bye Diana, Bye.
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