Latest / Building 341 / Hip-Hop, DJs & Sunday Conversations
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- DJ Rubbaban: Welcome my people. Welcome. Building 341. DJ Rubbaban Caddey B: Caddy B, what's up y'all? DJ Rubbaban: We in there. We in there somewhere. Special shout out. I got on my daddy's jersey. You know, once in a while y'all hear me say I wear my my daddy passed away. I got on my daddy's jersey. You know, he was a Cowboys fan. Shout out my daddy, R.I.P. Talk to me, Caddy. What's up? Tell me something. Caddey B: You know, just living life, doing the good deeds. DJ Rubbaban: Doing the good deeds. How was a birthday? Caddey B: It was good. It was good. It was low key. ⁓ you know, the town's just kinda kinda dying a little bit when it comes to like the whole nightlife thing, but that's okay, you know. It used to be a it used to be a staple around here, but it's ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ I don't wanna hear that. You know. Man, I remember a time when you can run into a midget, ⁓ a belly dancer downtown, snatch her up, ⁓ go eat at at Denny's or Jack's, ⁓ run into a few folks, you know, go up to Paradise, you know, and don't go to Orville. That's the dark side. You know, they call Oroville the dark side. Caddey B: Dude. Yeah, no, I was talking to s I was talking to some of the old school DJs too, 'cause like ⁓ DJ Ryan D. It was his birthday. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, okay, shout him out, shout him out, okay. Caddey B: You know, and and and he was like, Yeah, he was like, Man, it's just not the same when we used to have like the big the big parties with all the DJs and you could be over on thirty two or you'd be over on Broadway and we'd have the lights and he's like, They don't let us do that no more. We get shut down every time. DJ Rubbaban: Now do you think it's just 'cause of the violence and every, you know, part of the world is going up? Do you feel like it's the economics or you know? Caddey B: It's a little bit of everything, I think, you know, 'cause like the parties he was talking about are more the E DM parties and like you know what I mean? So the like the electronical parties. So I get that Yeah, those are the one and and there was always a good time. There was never a fight, there was never a shooting. Yeah, there were some people that was high, but and there was drugs there, but like they wasn't hurting nobody. You got all the all the hippies out there and you know what I mean, it's all just love and and do some MDMA and and dance and DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Those were the ones you made money though. Man, those Caddey B: Maybe hook up. But DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, well see, I didn't do none. I ⁓ you know, I probably just hooked up, but I remember so I remember working at a radio station in Paradise. I want to say it was KCHO. It was everywhere, but we was our our stuff was in Paradise, is where we would go up the Skyway. And after my show, I had a show called Midnight Hype. And so after my show, the EDM DJs would come on. And ⁓ Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Man, I got to know those guys. And those guys were so precise. They had the best equipment. ⁓ they DJ'd all over. And then we just respected each other from a DJ's perspective, right? You know, other DJs, you know, you have your own tricks, you have your own vibe, but when it comes down to it, it's just your techniques and how you do it and how you move the crowd. So it was mad respect for all those DJs. And I remember one day one of them said, Man, you ought to come play a set. Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: And the money I got, I was like, like that? He was like and they they beats you know, they beats the sped up. It's a whole vibe. You just can't categorize this one thing. And ⁓ you know me, I started it off with some, you know, some loud, you know, rain. You know me, the funky drummer. That's my that's the the funky drummer is just tattooed on me. And ⁓ man, it was a good set. I did a d a good little set, you know. It was it was lovely. It was lovely. Caddey B: Yeah. No. Uh-huh. DJ Rubbaban: Shout out to EDM and and just the various how you even call it, you know, 'cause we used to call it other than E D. ⁓ but Caddey B: Yeah. ⁓ yeah yeah. Yeah, there's E DM, there's techno, there's, you know, the dubstep and the dubsteps like a little bit more of the base hard hitting stuff and like but it's all kind of under that same that same umbrella. You know, that's why and you know, I sent you that video with the with the Jay Z in it. 'Cause he was say he was using Jay Z as the as the sample. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the crowd seem the crowd seemed more fun. Yeah, yeah, ⁓ yeah. You could be whatever you want to be with in that genre. Like you could just kinda, you know. So shout out that. And then, you know, shout out like I seen ⁓ just to bring up news in terms of ⁓ people we know in the game, ⁓ boomshot. I seen him performing somewhere recently. It was somewhere kinda big. I don't know if it was in Hawaii or something, but man, we go back just you know Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, and I mean I guess DJ Rubbaban: The love of DJ. Like my boy DJ Suge. He DJ all over the Bay Area. DJ Suge is worldwide. He was getting on the plane going to DJ. He always says, I love what I do. I love my job. And so shout out DJs, man. Just shout out DJ. Shout out people doing a podcast. Hopefully doing it positive, no negative. You know. You know what I really ⁓ Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's not all about just the clickbait, you know, it's not all about just getting those clicks. Like there's stuff that we could post that we could get the clicks, but like we ain't gonna do that. Like that's that that's I think that's kinda selling out just to go for clicks. DJ Rubbaban: Cause you said that, yeah. Or though it depends on kinda how you're raised in this game too, because I know right now with the gang culture and the hip hop culture, everybody's kinda telling and going to jail and you know what I mean? And you know, and hefe and then you get ⁓ what's the dude with the dreads and the from Detroit, he in jail cause his boy told and they got it all on camera and and so Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: It's just, man, the g is the game really to be sold and not told? Damn, even when you sell it, is that all right? Caddey B: Yeah, I mean DJ Rubbaban: Is it to be so? Caddey B: If you're selling it and you're giving it, if you give him back, if you're educating, then it's okay. But I think that if you're just if you do, if you do the dirt, then you gotta take, you're taking the consequences as it is. And if you profit from doing dirt, then that means you gotta sit down on your hands sometimes and take the take the time. Like it's all fun and games, and it's all good when you're getting that money, but that doesn't mean you're gonna sell out your man next to you just because you messed up and got caught. Or you did something stupid to where you're the one that got popped. DJ Rubbaban: But it kind of goes back to your core values, what kind of person you want to be, who you are. I mean, it's certain people that I haven't seen in 20 years. And somebody couldn't walk up to me and hold a a bad conversation about them for more than a minute or two. I'd be like, ⁓ okay, I gotta go. It's just how I'm built. It's just how I'm built. You know what I mean? And so and so for some people, when they're in their darkest times or when they do something and Caddey B: Hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's how it is. DJ Rubbaban: Now it's televised and then somebody has a video of it. Like ⁓ your boy fifties, baby mama. They just put a video out with ⁓ Diddy and Diddy's girlfriend, which is fifty cents baby mama, and she kinda had to justify because the video's out. You can see the video. And so she kinda says she was in a bad situation. She was trying to, you know, do what her man wanted her to do. That's how she got out of it, so to speak. And so Caddey B: The DJ Rubbaban: It just makes you say, like, she got a kid. Hopefully she'll have more kids. Hopefully she'll be somebody's wife one day and that video's out, you know? Man. The game is, man, B. You know what I'm saying? Could you imagine if it was videos and if it was camera phones back in the days? Like they had ⁓ but it wasn't at that level, you know? Caddey B: Yeah, yeah, it's c it's cold. Yeah, you wa there was no there was no ⁓ cameras in the nineties out at the clubs when you know I mean when you was hollering at a midget at the bar. DJ Rubbaban: No. There you go. I yeah. You see, you can't say midget. I can say midget. You gotta say little people. But you know what? I'll I'll give you one too, though. Like me and so my boy DNA has a movie coming out, you know, Messiah, yeah, Messiah Inc. Yeah, that's coming. That's going that's coming. Yeah, that's coming. ⁓ we're gonna talk about that too. That's coming too. And ⁓ DNA has been kind of a special. Caddey B: Shout out DNA. Get some get some get some pub on that. And you got an appearance you got an appearance in there. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: With me, cause he DNA lightweight was was one of my managers at one point. Like he would always get me work, whatever. He would be like, ⁓ why don't you do this column? I'm like, ⁓ do this column. You do it anyway. Do this column for this magazine. Do this. Here, go do this. DNA always looked out. So I say that the setup is I remember working because from DNA helping me get jobs, interviewing albums, you know, reviewing albums, doing different things, I would get other jobs. And I remember ⁓ labels and ⁓ or just magazines saying, I need you to go to LA and I need you to meet with MacTean or whoever, whatever the rapper or singer. And at that point, a lot of artists in the nineties, they didn't really like taking pictures like that, especially rappers. So by you being part of ⁓ a label, you're an interviewer, and then the interviews usually came out the following month. It wasn't instantaneous like now. Like a day later, later today, you get an interview online. And so sometimes you would get them in compromising positions. They wouldn't have the makeup on. And so I noticed I got a lot of pictures from back in the day. And I haven't shared a lot of them. But sometimes in those magazines, I would share them and people would see them. You know, whoever, Runde MC, Scarface, whoever, whoever. And so ⁓ but some of them I just didn't. And when the and when it transitioned and everybody was like, Hey, can I get a picture? Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Hey, can I get a even me as a DJ, people will be like, hey, can I get a picture? And I will be like, ⁓ because coming up, coming up in Southern California, in the gang culture, in the city culture, man, I don't want the feds having a picture of me. I don't want the feds knowing how I look. Man, they know how you look. And you shouldn't be doing nothing that they tripping off. Exactly. And so part of that was with when you listen to when you listen to older rap. Caddey B: You didn't want no proof. Yeah. If they look it into you, they know how you look. They know that that's just what it is. DJ Rubbaban: You they say stuff like that, you know what mean? Don't be no male groupie, you know, cause if you cause a man didn't want to say, Hey, excuse me, Ice Cube, can I have a picture? It just wasn't happening back in them days. But if you was interviewing them or if you knew him, hey, man, let me get a picture before I go. You know. So shout out, ⁓ just you know, so my boy DNA has a movie that he produced and wrote. ⁓ Caddey B: Dear. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Called Messiah Inc. And ⁓ he previewed it in Chico ⁓ at the pageant for three days, and everybody kinda came out, and ⁓ it's it's gonna be wonderful. Your boy DJ Rubber Band is in there. You know, I'm I'm I'm doing amazing things in the movie. You know what? I was actually I've been in a lot of ⁓ music videos, but I've never been in a movie. So man, I was so scared, y'all. I was scared, I kept sweating. Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: The boom man was all in my face. I was like, damn, why he in my face? He was hella cool, hella nice. I seen him at the little at the ⁓ thing, shout him out. And ⁓ you gotta do your lines over and over. And ⁓ it's gonna be you guys, if you guys are fans of some of my shows, and if you remember my radio show, Freedom or Death, ⁓ which ran for what, I don't know, 15, 16 years in Northern California, you'll really Caddey B: was a staple on Thursdays. DJ Rubbaban: You yeah, on Thursdays from 3 to 5 30. When you watch when you watch DNA's movie and you see my scene, you're gonna scream because it's gonna be it's straight DNA, you know. DNA. He gave props to he gave props to your boy. And it's other KZFR people in the movie as well, too. So it's just a plethora of just Chico greats in the in this movie. You're gonna be like, ⁓ dang, ⁓ dang. So Messiah Inc. Caddey B: That was that staple. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: It's coming out. It's coming out, y'all. It's coming out. It's coming out. Yeah. So, so B, how you feeling about everything that's going on right now? Do you feel like you want to ride the wave of this? Like, how you feeling? You got your haircut? Ain't nobody I w in the comments, I want y'all to make sure y'all like and prescribe. Subscribe to this. Tell me how you how you feel about my boy's new haircut. Let me know. In the comments, let me know how you feel. Caddey B: Be on the lookout. And share and share. Like I said, I'm a mechanic so you know, I wanna I wanna bring the long hair back, but at the same time it just don't go with work. It's t it gets too dirty when I'm underneath these these DJ Rubbaban: I I want I want I want look I want the subscribers to go up is he turning up his light skin sexy on this or he should let it grow back y'all let us know in the comments let us know in the comments this girl not tripping she not tripping she just had a birthday she just turned twenty two y'all yeah yeah shout out his girl shout out his girl so man how do you feel about that whole conversation I don't know if we touched on it yet ⁓ Caddey B: There you go, there you go. No. DJ Rubbaban: Last time where Max B made a little joke about Big Daddy Kane. And we talked about that a little bit, but I feel like in terms of the hip hop culture as a as a whole, because before it got incorporated, before people made money, it was hip-hop. And so now we in this information age where Caddey B: Yeah, we did. We talked about that a little bit. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: People that came before you and then came before you before them should still get their respect, like they do in country, like they do in blues and other genres of music. And they don't always do that in hip hop. So when Max B Caddey B: No, and it's always also also the the thing about hip hop is it's always been like, ⁓ it's a young man's sport. It's a young man's game. Like the old men, like, you know, like people say about us, you know, we old men, like I be called grandfather on there and stuff. It's like, yeah, so what if we are grandparents and whatnot? That don't matter. This culture is part of everything. Like this is it this is hip hop. Like you can't just say it's a young man's sport and that the old heads don't matter. DJ Rubbaban: Right. And we not even at all. Yeah. Caddey B: Like the people who paved the road to do anything that you're doing in this culture, in this game, they get they should get respect as well. Cause you wouldn't be able to do what you do without them. DJ Rubbaban: And you know what? It really helps the game when you see that people that came before you and after you and all that. One of the things that happens to me, I notice and and I and I go out, but I don't go out a lot, lots of clubs because I was on the other side of it for so long. DJs that know me, DJs that I work with, DJs that just hurting me, it's something that we all kind of do. And it, you know, and I remember being somewhere. And one of my DJ friends was like, Rubber, you gonna get on there for a little bit? Get on there for a little bit. And I remember getting comfortable with his little setup. His setup was a little different. And once I got comfortable, I just started turning up. And then he was just smiling. He just sitting there smiling. He was like, Man, man, you gonna get back in the game? I was like, Man, the money gotta be right for me. And ⁓ and then once I once Caddey B: But you never but you never left. You did some little parties and stuff in the in in sack and you know what I mean? You still Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ yeah, I still yeah, I still kept my yeah, I keep I still kept my toes in the water. And I'm still a battle DJ at heart. Like at at heart. And so my boy said to me, he was like, Man, why you do all that? And then I gotta follow after that. Man, why you man? 'Cause you just hopefully you never lose it. Just hopefully you never lose it. And now with technology and turn tables and everything and C DJs, ⁓ Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: They make it easier, but also I feel like they made it lazier for you to really turn up and do what you gotta do. You know? Shout out to DJs Worldwide, my boy TS Red, DJ Shook, ⁓ DJ Premier. go on, you know what I mean? Jazzy Jeff, every all the greats, the greats, the greats, the greats. So many greats. So ⁓ Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, and it's like it's and and and that's the other thing. Like, you know, you you know, that that that list of DJs alone, what they've contributed to the game of hip hop is more than just being DJs. Cause it goes it goes it goes further than that. You know, just their productions, their ears that they've done. You know what I mean? It's like what what a DJ hears and what he puts out also inspires the next generation. So like DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ Caddey B: Don't sleep on that. DJ Rubbaban: Absolutely. Absolutely. And even when we talk about DJ culture in ⁓ in Northern California, you know, we've been talking about that in the beginning. ⁓ my boy Rob Love and Rob Love Productions, like he had he had the whole DJ scene sold up in the nineties. ⁓ Calskate was a lot of little DJs, you know. Your boy DJ Robot Man had to work at Calskate too, y'all. Caddey B: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. DJ Rubbaban: But that's a whole nother story. If you know anything about Chico, Northern California. But Rob Love would DJ everywhere. And so Rob would hire a lot of DJs, including your boy, DJ Rubber Band. So he would send me to Orville. He would send me to the Bay. ⁓ man, Rob. And when we get Rob Love on there, Rob got history. And he's still making crazy money. Man, Rob Love. Man, ain't he a good. We worked in radio together like Rob Love. I actually got a plaque with Rob Love. That's a whole nother story. I got a man. Shout out Rob Love. DJ Rob Love. Look him up, you guys. Look him up. Look him up. So many great DJs. So many, you know, boom shot. I mean, even some of the some of the locals. I remember, I'm not gonna go dark, but I remember when radio was changing, and I was. Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: I was me, y'all. I was still me, y'all. I was, trust me, I was still me. I was still had my voice. I hey, hey, I was still me. And I remember this DJ guy who was doing it. He was doing it. And right he was doing it on the radio. And he made a comment about me. So people started telling me, and I was like, what? And somebody showed me a picture of him and I seen him one day. Y'all know I stepped to him, right? No, no, it was a little white dude, a little nerdy white dude. I say, hey, I'm DJ Rubber Band. If you want to get at me, you get at me. He got scared. He wanted to buy me lunch. He bought me some lunch. We sat and talked. And again, I just kind of schooled him on don't step on the next one to get to the next one. Like, you know what I mean? You don't know who knows who. You don't know who know whoever. Yeah, yeah. ⁓ 100%. Because DJing. Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And don't think that and people also also I've seen like locally here with some of these DJs, they get on the radio and they feel that they're big time 'cause they are on the radio and people start, you know, kissing a butt or whatever. And then they start to block other DJs from still working. Older DJs and and DJs that they should, you know, bow down to and kiss the ring. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ one hundred percent. Right. Because a lot of times, you know, they'll have relationships, you know, they'll have relationships with a certain club. And so they'll want the DJs out of that radio station to do the club. And so that'll be your plug to make money. I even even back then be even in radio, they kept requesting me at the gay club, right? And so I wasn't, you know, I wasn't worldly enough to really understand you can make a lot of money. And ⁓ Caddey B: And try to at least bring them up as well. Yeah. Mm. DJ Rubbaban: They used to always, you know, when we gonna get DJ Rober? And so I talked to one of them and they was like, this is how much we I was like, this is how much y'all paying? Lovely, made a lot of money over there, enjoyed it. Wind up going to L, you know, going to Sacramento, going to the Bay, doing clubs, and then they they have that that certain following. And it's I don't think I don't think really the story has really been written and told about Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: The working DJ or the or was successful in being a DJ. Because the DJ was in the the forefront in hip hop. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. DJ Jazzy Jeff was first, and then the Fresh Prince. So you go on and you go on and ⁓ just shout out DJs. I don't want to stay on that, but ⁓ shout out DJs worldwide. Have your swag. You know what I mean? Do what you do. Caddey B: It was. Yeah. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Shout out to the dude I pressed that says he said something about me for a minute on radio. And when I called him, I was like, hey, what's up, Ben? What's up? He was like, ⁓ I'm DJ Rubber Band. You know, I didn't even say nothing else. I didn't even put the P on at the end or nothing. I just, you know, yeah. Caddey B: Yeah. But that's that that's that that's that that's that Southern California kind of mentality to where it's just like, you know what I mean? And that's partly because of the gang culture, because of whatever. And I kinda wanna dip into that as well, just because that video's been going around of LL Cool J, you know, about respecting the people who came before. And even though they're not millionaires, you still need to respect what they've put out into the game. DJ Rubbaban: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Right. 100%. 100%. And then you gotta create your own lane too. But some of that some of that who you are. Remember when we talked about Drake and and Kendrick and that battle and how he took it, a lot of how he took it is just who he is. It's personal. He made it personal. Drake made it personal. Kendrick is probably over that. That's not even who he is, but he did it and it's over. But Drake is sometimes and so the same with DJ and Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Doing nails, doing videography, whatever. People are who they are, you know? And coming up. Caddey B: ⁓ yeah, yeah, no, a hundred percent. I think I think now Drake is that's going to follow him forever, is the him and Kendrick thing. Like that is part of that's part of Drake now. Like he can't never shake that. DJ Rubbaban: He still got good music though, you guys. I mean, in my opinion, you know, in my opinion. In my opinion. Caddey B: Yeah, and everybody has to have their opinion. That's what that's what everybody's here for. You know. DJ Rubbaban: And I'm gonna throw a dose in there. I'm gonna let I'm gonna keep with the the I'ma keep with the theme, but sometimes you really know the measure of a man on how he falls, how he gets up from a fall. Like you really it's not always, you know, the good times when you party with somebody. Sometimes when you when they get up and how they get up. And so, I mean, Drake got the best setup to get up because he's he made all the Caddey B: Definitely, definitely. DJ Rubbaban: He made all the streams. He sold all the records. He's done all that, but his ego was bruised. And so what does that mean when you got rappers like Mellie Male made 65 last week? Mellie Male, the rapper in Furious Five, he did The Message, which is a standard. ⁓ He was the first rapper to do a feature with a major pop artist. He did a ⁓ song called I Feel For You. Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: With Shaka Khan, which was crazy. No other rapper had rapped on a song. So it's so many first. But you look at if you seen that fool in the mall, you'd be like, who was that old dude with the ⁓ the jersey on with the muscles? You know? Yeah. Yeah. But shout out Melly Male. Shout out Mellie Male. And Scorpio. They still touring. They out there touring. ⁓ yeah. How you think Drake gonna be when Drake is Caddey B: Mm-hmm. Symphony, all kinds of things. ⁓ huh, ⁓ huh. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: in his fifties and he can't do you think he'll transition in the movies again? What do you think? What w gimme give me your feelings on Drake overall? Do you think he'll be a white boy? You think he'll just act like a white boy and just be a recluse in Canada? What you think? Just be objective. Caddey B: Probably. Probably. I think it'd be I th DJ Rubbaban: I mean it's nothing wrong with saying that 'cause he's half white. It's nothing wrong with saying that, you know? Caddey B: Yeah, no. You know, so am I. But like at the same time, you gotta ⁓ you just gotta stick to whoever you are. And I think I think for him I think for him I think for him he's gonna do whatever he feels like like that he can get away with. Cause I feel like he's just a cosplayer in this whole thing anyways. DJ Rubbaban: But he mixed, so that's part of who he is, you know? You don't think he's overall as a package? You don't think he's gonna be considered one of the greats of his genre? Just be objective. Just be objective. Yes, yes, yes. Caddey B: Of po of of pop music? Sure. Of pop music, he can be he can be he can be he can be the greatest pop underneath Michael Jackson that there that there's been. Sure, I'll give him that. But as far as in the hip hop space, I don't feel that he really has a place. I don't think I don't think he's a rapper. He's not a rapper. We can keep going back to Drake, but he's not a rapper. I don't think he is. DJ Rubbaban: You don't, huh? In the comments, I want y'all to tell me how y'all feel about that statement. Be objective. Be objective in the comments. Bad Bunny sold quatrillion records. He was gonna be signed to ⁓ Rockefeller. He didn't, he was gonna be like, Bad Bunny is incredible in his own genre. I don't wanna go to no Bad Bunny concert. So it's and I'm saying that to be objective, like Everybody has a space that they can be in. Everybody ain't got a ev even in our comments people be like, How could you how could you guys say that and and Drake is wonderful? Well he is and what he does. Caddey B: Yeah, but you I you can't sit there and say that he's the greatest of all time when you're talking about rappers. When you're talking about rappers who are actual lyricist MCs who write their lyrics, who spend the time in the wordplay, who have done the the the work and the history and say that he's one of the greats. DJ Rubbaban: All right. But this generation, this generation of young hip hop heads tell me all the time, rubber, I'm not into lyrics like that. I gotta feel the vibe. I just wanna feel the music. It's about the vibe. I don't even know what they're saying. Think about think about future. Future's considered kind of older now, but do you even understand what future's saying? And his stuff jam. Caddey B: Yeah, and that's fine. And that's Never. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. See did you understand the Mikos when they was popping? Caddey B: Wasn't a fan of the Migos either. Y'all can hate me on that too. I'm good. You know, but you can't compare DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caddey B: It's like apples to oranges, you know, th this they're not rappers. Migo, sure, I'd give them more as being rappers than Drake. But Drake, I feel like all he does is cosplay. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, I'm gonna give you okay, I'm gonna give you one that I used to have this. I used to have this ⁓ not an argument, but me and my boy would would do this. So two artists, right? So I would go, Who's a better singer? Sade? Caddey B: Shoday all day. Don't matter. Shoday. Sade. DJ Rubbaban: Listen, Sade or Mariah Carey. Sade or Mariah Carey? And then I would go, I would go, Mariah Carey sold more records than Sade. ⁓ Mariah Carey hits different more different notes than Sade. I prefer Sade, but being objective to Sade, Mariah Carey, who you gonna listen to? Mariah Carey sold more records than Sade. Some people will say Mariah Carey is happy, uplifting music. You listen to Sade. It's mute music. It's mood music. It's like that depressive music that you love when you just want to chill. You know? Jezebel, you want to hear that. Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: And with with Sade, you like B-side songs. You don't even have to know the main hits. You want to listen to the B-sides. But Mariah Carey, you go to the Christmas songs, you go to the fantasies and all that. In the comments, tell me who you like better. Sade, Mariah Carey. Some people might say, I never heard of Sade. Exactly. Listen to Sade if you ain't never heard no Sade. She's she's incredible. Caddey B: Bro okay, yeah. Yeah, Sade I mean DJ Rubbaban: See, you gotta be objective though. You gotta be, you know, you gotta be and my boy get mad. Why you bring that up? She, Mariah Carey can't compare to but look, listen, look at Mariah Carey's vocals compared to Sade. When you do karaoke and you go to a karaoke bar, people singing Mariah Carey songs and Sade. And you know what the ones they sound better at? The Sade ones. Cause people singing along with you. Mariah Carey, ain't nobody hitting them notes. Caddey B: Huh. No, no. I mean Yeah, and you know, Mariah Carey is good. You know, she's definitely DJ Rubbaban: Ain't nobody in them notes. Would you take your would you take your girl to go see Mariah Carey or Shah Day? Caddey B: Shoday. DJ Rubbaban: Which one you think you have more fun? Caddey B: Shoday. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. And me the same. Me the same. But I can appreciate yeah. Caddey B: You know what I mean? That that I can appreciate Mariah Carey's show, you know what I mean? But it's not ⁓ it's not my vibe. DJ Rubbaban: Right and look, and one of my first p platinum plaques I ever got was a Mariah Carey plaque. So that was the first one I plaque I ever had in my house was a Mariah Carey plaque. I was like Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey. And ⁓ yeah, I was a fan. And the budgets was always big for all her albums. You w yeah, yeah. Whatever you whatever was happening, they was gonna make sell it, shout out Mariah Carey. Caddey B: Huh. ⁓ yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: So yeah, so ⁓ look, I'm going off. What are you talking about? What was you talking about? I'm all over the place. I'm drinking my drink. It's a Sunday, I got on my daddy jersey. Caddey B: It's it's a sun it's a Sunday, so it's it's okay. We was you you always y y'all you always you always you always gonna go back to Drake or Tiny. Like that that that that's DJ Rubbaban: I ain't even mention my girl Tiny. I ain't trying to covet nobody wife, you know. I just okay, I'm gonna say one little thing about Tiny. Caddey B: I was just talking about, you know, I was just talking about how, you know, like I don't feel like they're getting we don't give the old heads enough respect. And in that aspect also, I feel that the West Coast, we get left out a lot on all the contributions that we've put forward. Like, I mean there's artists like Kid Frost, J O Felony, Rodney OJ Cool. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Right. Caddey B: And there's females like Shaquilla from the Bay. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. ⁓ the bay got some yeah. And then sometimes people take they take the substance away if it's gangster rap or if it's kind of really negative. So it's a lot of the positive ones that just didn't get pushed. And a lot of them are from Caddey B: You know what I mean? It's like Exactly. Yeah, like I mean South South Central Cartel, Havoc and Prodigy, not Havoc and Prodigy from Mob Deep, but Havoc and Prodigy from LA. They was out before Mob Deep was out. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Right. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah. I one of my folks was at my one of my folks was affiliated with that group. ⁓ yeah. My boy Wendo. Shout out my boy Wendo. He was affiliated with them. And he brought iced T ⁓ to Chico State one year. And ⁓ man, I man, that's a whole nother story. But he was connected to South Central Cartel and ⁓ Caddey B: Kicking that kicking game album? Boy. Like go look that up. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: But again, they was tight and they was more gangster driven, you know. Caddey B: Yeah, no, exactly. But it's like so th that gets overlooked. That gets overlooked. And so it used to be like all of all of those which were all groundbreaking people, you know, in in the early game, they get looked over. But yet now, if you look back, everything that they was doing then and that we started doing with Dickies and Khakis and Pro Clubs and Chucks and Carhartt. DJ Rubbaban: Shout out window. ⁓ yeah. They still I Caddey B: All that stuff that you see now worldwide, it all started in Southern California. DJ Rubbaban: Now, no disrespect to him, and this is one of your San Diego natives. Your boy from San Diego, who was dope, who was very much a Crip and represented that. A lot of industry people back then said he would press other Crips and Bloods when he saw them, and that they weren't real like he was. And he was a lot of people say he was hard to work with. Caddey B: Yeah. Shot out J O Felony, 'cause he a real one. DJ Rubbaban: Shout out jail felony. So back then they would have Jack the Rapper, Gavins. They would always have conferences for everybody to come to in the music business. So you would see everybody at various, you know, conferences, the Bay, Florida, whatever. I walk up to Jail Felony, and I'll, whatever magazine I was connected to, I was like, what's up? I'm DJ River Band. He looked at me. What's up, cuz? I said, What's up, man? Give me two minutes, man. Give me one minute. I'ma give you one minute, cuz. All right. So we talked for one minute. He gave me a picture. The picture, I took the picture, but it was down some. But I took the picture. When I seen him again, I was like, What's up, man? What's up, man? And then my boy said, Man, ain't he calling you? He keeps calling you cuz. He keeps saying cuz. I was like, man. You know, I told that fool I wasn't from that side. So that's what he and and he w he just had that energy. But when you grow up with people with that kind of povado, you just make allotments for it. And so in the industry behind the scenes, it's not a lot of us. So you do gotta play that game. And some people didn't play it as well. But jail felony was dope. I ain't taking nothing from him. He still, man. Caddey B: ⁓ yeah. DJ Rubbaban: I can give it to you, but what you gonna do with it? Like, I mean, he just he go. ⁓ the locust on his own sherm stick. ⁓ He talked about doing Sherm. I was like, the way he talked about doing Sherm, ⁓ what's going on with him, you know? Caddey B: The locus on his own? Yeah. I mean Right? He's still putting out stuff. He's still there. He's still running around doing the same things. You know what I mean? He's promoting another artist right now out there on Instagram. I see it. You know? And he's and he's still dropping Locus still on his own. He's still dropping albums. He he did one a few years back with exhibit and he went by his government. And that was hard. That's hard. Like, go look it up. James Savage. That shit that shit went hard. And it was like he did like a story. DJ Rubbaban: Okay. The Lok is still on his own, huh? The Lok is still on his own. ⁓ he did? Man, he put his government on there too? ⁓ You guys listen to his first listen to his first couple albums. They just you can't Yeah. Yeah. I mean Caddey B: And and yeah, and his g and his government name is hard. Yeah, but like, you know, that goes back to that whole thing, you know, the things that like he put out. Like before people were putting stuff out, he was putting out things. You know what I mean? And then the first time we really heard DMX was on what you got on that on that one album. With what with what you gonna do. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Bye. Right. ⁓ yeah, yeah. Cause he was on Def Jam. He was on a Def Jam subsidiary. So he had access to some of those artists. So he had ⁓ your boy Method Man was on one. Yeah. And that was dope. That was dope. Caddey B: Yeah, he had Meth and DMX on on on on the track. You know what I mean? Snatched the chain up off the dresser. Like that was one of DMX's first rhymes. It was just like and that was out there hard. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. Look at us. And you know who you know who he reminds me of? ⁓ like a DMX dude, like he was just a I I I think he was misunderstood. I think and that's just my opinion, you know. I know people gonna say in the comments, what you mean Bully Loco was he is, bul Bully Loco is is is definitely he should be in a lot of people's top ten. Caddey B: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ a hundred percent. A hundred percent. And a lot of people from the West Coast, like Yeah. Yeah, 'cause it's like there's but there's so many artists from the West Coast that just get slept on, like that have been putting in work for so long. I mean like Spice One. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. A bullet look at us bringing up bullet loco. Look at us. Look at us. Yeah, yeah. Right. Okay, now let's be objective. Let's be objective right now with Spice One. Dope artist, part of history. Caddey B: Dope orders. Part of history. That's what I'm saying. Part of history. DJ Rubbaban: I wanna say he I don't I wanna say and and correct me in the comments I wanna say he was the first major rap artist on on Jive other than too short. Like I think he he was on he was on Jive early. Like I think either he was first or too short was first. I don't know which one. Put it in the comments. Was too short first or spice one. ⁓ probably was too short, but ⁓ spice one Caddey B: Think so. Yeah, way early. DJ Rubbaban: Man. But again, I love Spice One. I knew his manager well. She used to always talk shit to me. That was my home. Cause I used to mess with her sister. ⁓ he was just a huge artist, and he was an artist that other artists love. Other artists always love Spice One. Like they'd be like, you know, I Caddey B: Yeah. Again, your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. It's not g your favorite rapper's favorite rapper is not gonna be Drake, Kendrick, J. Cole, like it's just not. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, ooh. But that's still one kind of genre. You stand at the same genre of rap. Spice one, bullet loco, a lot of them are in similar territories. You not putting in there, ⁓ your boys like ⁓ MC Hammer, ⁓ you're not other Bay Area artists. I'm just saying Bay. We was in the Bay or California, so to speak. Yeah. Caddey B: What like Rod Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I mean you got conscious daughters. You got DJ Rubbaban: You got Paris. Paris created conscious daughters. You got ⁓ you got ⁓ you got that whole Vallejo area with ⁓ you know all those Macs and Dre's and all those, you know. Caddey B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Paris Paris go hard. That Fairweather Friends album. Yeah, the Jack ⁓ all that. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah. And then Frisco, like Frisco, I seen an interview with your boy, and they was talking about Frisco rappers, and the first time they heard ⁓ Don't Fight the Feelin' with ⁓ with your boy that ⁓ you said Drake stole his music. Don't fight the feeling with Too Short and ⁓ rapping faute. Yeah, yeah. Frisco, you know, before they gentle some Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and Racinforte. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Some ghetto and Frisco, but you know, it still can be pretty you just can't go to San Francisco messing with them, but it was a lot of rappers from San Francisco. Man. Dope. Shout out San Francisco. Caddey B: ⁓ yeah, yeah. There was a t there was a ton of artists coming out of the bay and Frisco and all that area. You know, and a and another artist that I think that we can claim as a West Coast is ⁓ Sir Mixelot. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. Caddey B: My posse on Broadway. DJ Rubbaban: I mean, even though I mean, even though he was from what? He was from, I mean, yeah, he was from Seattle. My boy Ness. My boy Ness, he passed away, RIP Ness. But ⁓ yeah, he it and that was another one. He was smart. Mixelot was smart. Mix a lot, man. Mixelot was a smart dude. And you notice his styles, they he would change his style up. Caddey B: Seattle it's still the West Coast. Yeah. And they're still sampling his stuff. DJ Rubbaban: Remember, he you know, he had a little bit of an E40 style back then too, remember? On some of them songs, them was hits too. Dude, I remember listening to him in the eighties. Damn. Hella bass in his music. But did he get a lot of respect because he was from Seattle? Caddey B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's like Exactly. Yeah, yeah. My Posse on Broadway. Like he was still doing the story raps and stuff. Like that's what I'm saying. Like we gotta like, yes, Mellie Mel and all of them is great. And they did do the foundation. But let's not forget how the West Coast changed it and it still goes. DJ Rubbaban: Right. And then Atlanta, look, and then the South took it. Caddey B: They had something to say, and they did. DJ Rubbaban: The South took it. I mean, the South took it, man. And when the South took it, is did the South even give it back yet? Do the South still have rap? I think the South kinda still got it, right? Caddey B: I think in some aspects it's been it's not broken up that way any it's not broken up to where it's east, west, and south anymore. Cause I think it kind of all blended. It used to be that where the you know where the east coast was trying to sound like the south at one point, and the west was trying to sound like the south, and the south was sound like the west. Now I think it's kind of blended all together. And you can tell where people are from. You can tell, you can tell when you step off a plane that you from Cali. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Okay, I like that. I like that. Right. Right. Right. Or Detroit or Chicago. Yeah. Caddey B: If you in Atlanta or if you in Detroit. Yeah. Yeah. Like when they see me walking down in Detroit or in Romania, they know I'm from California. DJ Rubbaban: Look at you. Look at you. Look at you. Caddey B: But I'm always in Dickies and Chucks. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right. And you know I'm Caddey B: But then I'll see somebody else in some Dickies or some Chucks and they'd be like, ⁓ I just saw this on TV and it just look cool. DJ Rubbaban: Well, you know, I just try to blend in, you know, I just try to do it. Dude, I never forget, dude, I was at a ⁓ a little barbecue place. My boy took me to this barbecue place in the bay, right? And he was like, ⁓ you got one, I want you to go to this barbecue place. ⁓ I was like, okay. And you know, barbecue is something I don't eat barbecue that all the time. You know, it's something you eat once in a while, right? You don't just go there on Tuesdays. And so, and it was good. And so they had all the sweets and all that. And they had a dude there. You could tell he just got out the pen or something. You could just tell, right? You could just tell. So my boy was looking and I said, What's that right there? And dude was looking at me like, Negro, you don't know what that is. And so it was it was that pudding, you know, that little pudding, you know, with the little, with the, with the ⁓ waffle, the waffle pudding with the little waffles around it. And I was like, what's Caddey B: Yeah. You know. Yeah, yeah, the the the banana pudding with vanilla wafer. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, banana pudding, banana pudding, banana pudding, yeah. And then it was something else he had, and I was like, he was looking at me and he said, Negro, you don't know what that is? And dude, you know, just me, the comedian that I am, I go, Man, I just, man, I'm fresh out. Like, like six hours, four minutes, and eight seconds. My boy took me here to get some food with y'all. He said, ⁓ okay, okay, okay. He said he had a J number. He said he had a J number, told me his number. He said, Man, I got you. I got you. My boy looked over at me like, nigga, are you for real right now? Dude, tight me up. Dude, type me up. He didn't make me pay for mine, but my boy had to pay for his. I gave him a tip. He's like, no, man, you need that. We sat down. My boy said, You are an incredible nigga. I was like, what you mean? He was like, Caddey B: Ha ha. Negro DJ Rubbaban: The shit you say sometimes, you gotta be there to understand it. And we both laughed. We ate our food. I went back over there, shook his hand, you know, and we left. Shout out that spot in the bay, man. You never know who you're gonna be. So when you said you wear dinkies or whatever, I'm just I'm whatever my environment or whatever the vibe is, I want it to be positive, but you know, I'm just more like, I want to blend into the environment. Caddey B: Mm-hmm. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: I wanna blend in. Caddey B: I wanna experience the environment but at the same time I'm always gonna be me. Like it don't matter. DJ Rubbaban: But if I'm in Romania, if I'm in Romania, I wanna know what Romanians do. You know? Is the guns and bullets close to ⁓ Putin? I wanna know can we is it clubs? I wanna know, you know. Caddey B: They bring sweaker. ⁓ yeah, there's clubs, there's all kinds of stuff. There's there's there's there's a big nightlife and there's all kinds of things going on. It's a it so in Bullcrest where we go, it is the New York of Rome. Yeah, Buchrest is is something else. It is it's something special. DJ Rubbaban: Buddha press, yeah, yeah. So how how are they with you being, you know, black? Like, are you getting stares or you they talking to you? How is it? Okay, okay. Working there or or partying there? Caddey B: No, there's black folks out there. No, there's no li live in there, partying there, day to day life. I mean, you don't can see as many black people as as here, but you know, I think the last time I was there DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right. Caddey B: Last time I was there I saw a few when we was walking around. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, okay. How are the women there? Caddey B: All kinds. DJ Rubbaban: Any midgets, any midgets, redheads? Talk to me. Caddey B: I didn't see many redheads. I I didn't I didn't see your gin your ginger sisters that you love. But you know, one of the time Yeah, nah. Yeah, no, there was there was one black girl, she had long braids and everything. I mean DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right. Black girls, you see some black girls? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Caddey B: And then like one of the spots we stayed at, we ⁓ we were upstairs and then on the ground floor was Sephora, and then you go walk a little bit, and then there was a spot where it just said a door and stairs, and you go down these stairs, and at the bottom of the stairs it said sex shop or Russian bar. You go left, you go to the sex shop, you go right, you go to the Russian bar. We went to the Russian bar. We sat there for probably nine hours drinking and hanging out and just smoking cigarettes. 'Cause you can buy cigarettes there, you can smoke cigarettes, there's different DJs coming in, there's girls walking on the bar and and, you know, dancing and doing all the things and DJ Rubbaban: Damn. Danger. Man. I gotta hear I gotta hear the ⁓ I gotta hear the X-rated version when we get off this podcast. That sound kind of dope. You know, and then when you go to different countries, everything is different too. You know what I mean? We used to like clubs closing at a certain time. Caddey B: Yeah. Nah, they didn't close. Like we went in at like we went in probably at like nine, ten o'clock at night maybe. We came out, it was like ten o'clock in the morning. We didn't know what time like we didn't know where like we didn't know that it was sunny out now, like DJ Rubbaban: Whoa. You guys slept the whole next day or you guys got up and was still d going? Caddey B: Pretty much. No, we pretty much just kind of slept that day. We had we had we had her brother bring us over some sh some some shawarmas and ⁓ they do like this so they take ⁓ cabbage and they pickle it. They pickle a lot of stuff over there, but the juice from the from the sauerkraut and from the cabbage, you drink that like pickle juice for like hangovers and stuff, man. I tell you that knock it out. ⁓ yeah. DJ Rubbaban: That's good you and your girl can party like that though. Shout out to a girl shout out to your girl. Uh-huh. It did? ⁓ Now does the alcohol taste different? Like is it is it stronger? Is it I mean, 'cause a lot of countries don't like a lot of sugar like that, you know, is it Caddey B: You can get your regular alcohols. You know what I mean? You give you still get your vodka, your whiskey, and things like that. ⁓ but yeah, it they're definitely more conscious about what you put in. You know, you get you you get a pack of cigarettes over there and it has a picture of the warning label. It says warning, and it'll be like a black lung on it. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ okay. Right, right. Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely. Caddey B: Or it'll be some cancer thing saying, you know, and there's actually like a photo of it be like, Hey, you know, you shouldn't smoke. Also, their ⁓ most of their cigarettes are all thin. So they're like those Virginia Slims, you know, the skinny cigarettes. You know, everybody know about a Virginia Slim, at least those OGs do. DJ Rubbaban: Damn. Yeah, Virginia Slim. Yeah, in the eighties. Yeah. Caddey B: So they're like that. So they're a little bit different like that. But then also they got on every corner there's a deli place that has like Court's meat hang in or ⁓ dessert pastry shops, bakeries, things like that. DJ Rubbaban: Right. And see when I ⁓ kind of went overseas and, you know, and done I was usually touring with a band or touring with some group and I was low low hanging fruit. So I was in the the worst kind of hotels and we would go out and do stuff. You know, the beer was warm. You know, it was it wasn't it wasn't the best experience and that in v back when you got prediem and per diem is when you're on tour and You get like a little, you know, you get money every week. And so they give you money and then plus you get to stay wherever you're staying and you're doing various things. And we have fun, but I haven't gone by myself or with my wife and like going out and just kick it. And I need to go like that. You know, because my experience is and I didn't get a chance to go to China. I wanted to go to China. A lot of people tell me a lot of good about China. Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my wife really wants to go to Japan and China and stuff. Yeah. You and the wife can come you you and the wife can come with us to Romania. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, a lot yeah, Japan too. Yeah, yeah. I mean and it's just you just Ooh, ooh, I don't know. She can hang. Look, I don't know if she can hang. You know, y'all can be there all night, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I I definitely want to do that though. I do want to go. I want to, you know, you gotta live, you gotta live, and you gotta experience all this. And again, going all the way back to music, being exposed to different parts of the world, different countries, different states, your musical taste kind of grow. You know, it grows, it goes different places. Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: It's not just regional. And that's why sometimes a Spice One, a Bullet Loco, ⁓ it's gonna be different than a E forty or you know, a LL Cool J. I mean, LL Kool J put out the first album solo artist on a major label, what, 84, 85? I think his first album was 84, 85. Most of his albums went platinum, a double platinum. I think one or two went gold. He had like 14, 15 albums. Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Was on Def Jam. ⁓ so when he says, and he's the one who invented that term, the GOAT, because one of his albums was called The GOAT, the greatest of all time. And so he's he had to f and he went through periods where people didn't like LL Koo J no more. But he's a staple and he fought through that. And he's talking about you can't talk about these rappers, cause before him, it wasn't no Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Major labels that was putting out rap music. And so even though Coach Hillen was a major subsidiary through Warner Brothers, Big Daddy Kane didn't get the push that a lot of those artists after him that came. And he he's the blueprint of all those people that spit in after him. He's a part of that tree. Definitely a part of that tree, man. Caddey B: No. No, no. Yeah, yeah. And another thing Ella was saying, you know, is it's like, you know, back then there was no there was no ⁓ accountants, there was no managers, there was no there was no real labels that was like helping there was nobody helping you feed and figure out the the things on how to, you know, move your money and whatnot. So yeah, people lost out on a lot of money. There was nobody going to bat for you, you know. DJ Rubbaban: And you learn how to play the game. Caddey B: You didn't have Chat GBT to sit there and be like, hey, how do I do this? How do I look at this contract? How do I get paid? DJ Rubbaban: I mean, because you learn from the next and then the next. And then even with Gangster Rap, and I'm talking Southern California. The first to me gangster rap song from Southern California was NWA. But when Ice Cube said, straight out of Compton, crazy name Ice Cube, I knew where Ice Cube lived. I knew he lived in the hundreds. I knew his folks. You know what I mean? But we love that he did that. And we love Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: A bitch is a bitch. And we loved all they stuff. And we knew, like, ⁓ maybe you gotta do that for gangster rap. And so now these people believe what they say. And then they songs they say they killing people, and then they tell you where they kill people, and they had a video up. So then they go to prison and then their lives are destroyed. It's like this is just music. This is an art form. You know what I'm saying? Bullet loco is not. Caddey B: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Doing Sherm no more. You know what I mean? Like, but when you listen to his songs, when you listen to a future talk about drugs, even though I don't do drugs, you feel that vibe of that and you enjoy just the music. And so I feel like now the culture, everybody ain't gotta know all your business. Can you just vibe? Caddey B: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Can you just put out a good body of this is why, and I'm gonna say this and I'm gonna get off of this. This is why, and he has a new album coming out. If it's not already out, Rick Ross. Rick Ross talks about drugs and keys from overseas and all that. I don't really think Rick Ross did all that stuff. He said he did. But overall, his body of work is good. I enjoy Rick Ross' music. I'm singing it. I don't care that he ain't really no gangster. I prefer he not because I don't want him to go to jail, so I can't hear none of his music no more. But some people that are authentic, you gotta do whatever you say in your songs. Since the beginning, you rap about it till you get it, and then when you get it, you switch it up. And that's why coming back to Drake, he's the most successful artist, the biggest artist. What are you gonna talk about? We don't want to hear you talk about people hurt your feelings. Caddey B: Yeah. He he got he Ha ha ha. DJ Rubbaban: And other rappers don't like you, and basketball players. Some of us will never meet a basketball player, a professional one. So the things that you rap about. You know, you just gotta come with more substance. That's all I'm saying. You don't come with more Ice Cube now. Like he don't care. He's finna put out another Friday's coming out. He's got the big three. He's Caddey B: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: You know, shout out everybody that's doing it, making that money. Shout out Drake too. I'ma get you to go to look, I'ma I'ma holler at some of Drake people. I'ma I'm gonna when he starts touring again, I'm gonna get you and your girl. We're gonna go see Drake. We're gonna go see Dra. Caddey B: Definitely, yeah. Make sure make sure make sure he gets to see the clips about me talking about him first. So that way he s so that way I can get the that way I can get that interview. DJ Rubbaban: Nah, we ain't doing none of that. It's pol everything's political. Everything's political. Everything's political. Look, everything's televised now, you know? Everything's televised. Caddey B: ⁓ yeah, it is. It is. Yeah, I mean, you know, just like with Cube doing that, with with you know, announcing that, you know, the the Friday's coming back and they're gonna do that, you know. What's your ⁓ what's your top soundtrack? Cause that was a big soundtrack. The Friday soundtrack was a big Fri was a big soundtrack. And there was a few other ones, you know, ⁓ above the above the rim. DJ Rubbaban: That was a big one. You know what? I almost feel like I would have to study. I almost feel like I can just say it right off the back. But you know what soundtrack I really like was Above the Rim. Like, I'm not trying to say Above the Rim is it is my top 10, but I feel like Above the Rim, ⁓ I feel like ⁓ what was that soundtrack? Well, it had How to Survive in South Central. Caddey B: Cause they don't do them no more. It sticks out. DJ Rubbaban: Was that what movie was that that came from? ⁓ Caddey B: I mean you had the menace of society one, you had the boys in the hood. DJ Rubbaban: That's what it was. Maybe it was Menace to Society soundtrack. That was a good soundtrack. See, it's different moments. See, it's different moments in history for me. Caddey B: Baby b baby boy had a good soundtrack. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ but you know, Welcome Back Charleston Blue, a lot of those ⁓ Curtis Mayfield did that famous one for that black movie. Sparkle, ⁓ you know what I mean? You know, the spooky set by the door soundtrack. Like, so I have to go depending on the genre. Depending on the genre, you know what I mean? And and the time. Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, recently the sinners won. DJ Rubbaban: You know, the Goonies soundtrack. I don't know, you know. What's your favorite movie? What's your favorite movie? Caddey B: The center soundtrack. All time? DJ Rubbaban: Right. Don't say Scarface. Caddey B: No. No, that one's kinda tough. That one's kinda tough 'cause you know, 'cause I like Mar I like I like me some Marvel movies, so DJ Rubbaban: That w I mean Okay. They don't really have good soundtracks, do they? Marvel? Caddey B: Black Panther. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a good one. Yeah. That was a good one. That was definitely was a good one. Yeah. Caddey B: Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, there's there's some things out there, you know. The centers that centers soundtrack that was pretty dope. You got Buddy Guy all over it, you got some blues in there. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, look at you. Okay, okay, look at you. You squished it up, you switched it up. How did you feel about that movie? Be honest. You love that movie? I'm still I'm still trying to digest it. I ain't getting it all the way. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like look, it's like me and my relationship with Tiny from Escape. You ain't really got it all the way. You still digesting it. You know what I mean? You don't understand, you don't see what I see. You don't see what I see, you know. Caddey B: Yeah. ⁓ I love that movie. I love that movie. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, no. ⁓ huh. Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: You don't see it. Shout out Tiny, you know. Caddey B: Yeah, so just shout out. You know, this is how Building Three Forty One gets down. We might bounce around a little bit, but you know, everything is there. That that is hip hop. That is this culture. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look up Tiny from Escape. Subscribe, like, prescribe, you know. I w Share. Share. Share. And tell us who we got coming up. We got some you told me we got some people coming up. ⁓ Caddey B: Share. Make sure you share too. Share with other people. Yeah, and look up everybody we talked about. We got some locals that are trying to get in, you know. We got we got some people who are even reaching out that are outside of the culture that wanna do podcasts on golf and other things. So we might, you know, get them on here just to let them talk about their space and what they want to do and then Yeah. Yeah. And we got DJ Rubbaban: Right. And what kind of music they like. What about ⁓ now the brothers the brothers that we met at ⁓ the BDP, ⁓ did you say one of them was at the BDP concert? Caddey B: ⁓ we got we got Hemp C. I gotta I gotta I gotta reach out with him and then we got ⁓ B Lee and J L J Pig from the Hooligans. ⁓ we got old school Dominic wanna come on. Mr. K Mr Clean. DJ Rubbaban: Okay, the hooligans. Ooh. My boy Dominic. Boy, we go back. Man, that's that that's technically Dominic. That's technically family right there. So he won he gon' freestyle? What he gonna do? Caddey B: ⁓ yeah. Think I think I'm a j I'm I'm gonna tell him he's gonna have to have his pan game right. We might have to do something special. DJ Rubbaban: He gonna ha tell tell Dom he gonna have to have it. He ain't just cause he family, he gonna have to have it. And he he can't just take off his shirt no more. He gonna have to he's gonna have to give us some pen. Yup, yep, yep, yep. Build a three forty one. Caddey B: Yeah, so see we got some we got some we got some things in the pipeline. It's not just gonna be me and him just sitting here going back and forth talking about Drake. DJ Rubbaban: Building three forty one. ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it even with the Drake thing, it's all objective. It's all objective. Really, you know what I mean? It's objective. Remember, Anita Baker not say Anita Baker, Sade and Mariah Carey, two great artists. But long term, if you had to be somewhere, would you take Mariah Carey's greatest hits or Sade's? Caddey B: It is. Shout A's great as hits. All day. DJ Rubbaban: It depends. In the comments, tell us which one you would you play. You know? Shout out to Romania. Shout out to all those countries that's representing and stand up all night. When we get off this podcast, he's gonna tell me the real, the extra, the other room. It was a Russian door and a club door. I wanna know about the other door. Off cam everything ain't supposed to be televised. Caddey B: Definitely. All right, Charles. Nah, that it ain't. DJ Rubbaban: Peace out. Building 341. Subscribe, y'all. Subscribe. Caddey B: Peace, y'all. And share. Get it out there. DJ Rubbaban: And share. And y'all look up my girl Tiny. We out.