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The Bolt Report | 17 April · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: Is the good report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, Anthony, I have an easy court on another lie,
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Speaker 2: and I will tonight catch him on even more in
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Speaker 2: this most corrupt election i've scene in Australia. Also today,
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump now threatens war and this time is not
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Speaker 2: wrong that one of America's top generals thinks has at
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Speaker 2: least been let down by a fool of a friend.
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Speaker 2: Plus the women behind a huge judgment in Britain Supreme
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Speaker 2: Court that only a woman is a woman, and I
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Speaker 2: reveal the greatest Australian author you've never heard of the
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Speaker 2: first this election. This election shames Australian media and Damn's labor. Yesterday,
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Speaker 2: Pter Dutt was smashed for saying something false that Indonesia's
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Speaker 2: president had confirmed a report that Russia had asked the
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Speaker 2: base long range military aircraft in Indonesia. Well, the opposite
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Speaker 2: leader corrected himself into debate with Anthony now easy last night.
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Speaker 2: The mistake was trivial.
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Speaker 3: It was a mistake, and I'm happy to a bit.
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Speaker 4: What we got from the Indonesian authorities in the reports,
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Speaker 4: and the Prime Minister commented on these reports yesterday as well,
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Speaker 4: was that the sources inside the Proboo government confirmed that
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Speaker 4: that was the case.
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Speaker 2: Now note the double standards. Dutton was smashed. But today
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister stood in front of the media and
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Speaker 2: again told lies, even some new lies, lies that threatened
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Speaker 2: your standard of living. Yet not one journalist contradicted or
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Speaker 2: criticized alb and easy for the ones I'm going to
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Speaker 2: show you year. Just before I do, let me quickly
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Speaker 2: deal with the labor life from yesterday that Dutton was
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Speaker 2: talking about the spin, the labor spin that a report
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Speaker 2: by James military intelligence site was false. Now, Laby, yesterday
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Speaker 2: I showed you last night, I tried to make you
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Speaker 2: think that No, Russia hadn't asked to put long range
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Speaker 2: military air after in Indonesia, Indonesia where they then could
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Speaker 2: back China in the war against Taiwan, or the US
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Speaker 2: base in Guam or Australia.
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Speaker 5: No, we have not got confirmation of that approach.
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Speaker 2: In fact, Indonesia and Russia have now both refused to
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Speaker 2: deny that that request was in fact made because it was.
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Speaker 2: And now the senior journalist who wrote that James report says,
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Speaker 2: we stand by this story and it is accurate. The
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Speaker 2: story was written following a few weeks of speaking to
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Speaker 2: worlplace sources within the Indonesian government, and to back that up,
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Speaker 2: the spokesman for Indonesia's Foreign Ministry A ministry said today
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Speaker 2: know there wouldn't be an actual Russian base in Indonesia,
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Speaker 2: but and it's a very big butt added, Indonesia will
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Speaker 2: receive and permit military aircraft or vessels from other nations
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Speaker 2: on peaceful missions to visit Indonesia, and it looks very
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Speaker 2: much like those other nations very much do include Russia.
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Speaker 3: How come Albanezi didn't know of that Russian approach?
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Speaker 2: Now that's the real issue, along with the fact that
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Speaker 2: you know, here comes Russia and our military has been
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Speaker 2: run down. Those are the real issues, not Peter Dutton misspeaking,
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Speaker 2: but to today's slaves. Last night Peter Dutton debated Albanesi
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Speaker 2: and a very typical ABC event. You know, not one
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Speaker 2: question about the top issue for voters, the very real
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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis, but there was a question about
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Speaker 2: a very unreal global warming crisis. Labor in the ABC
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Speaker 2: jumped today all over Dutton's reasonable response.
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Speaker 4: I don't know, David, because I'm not a scientist and
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Speaker 4: I can't tell you whether the temperature has risen in
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Speaker 4: Fargaminda as a result of climate change, or that the
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Speaker 4: water levels are up in Fargaminda's latest flood as a
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Speaker 4: result of climate change. And I think the honest answer
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Speaker 4: for most people is that they don't know, and there
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Speaker 4: are scientists who can provide advice.
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Speaker 6: The science is very clear. It doesn't mean that every
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Speaker 6: single weather event is because of climate change. It does
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Speaker 6: mean that the science told us that the events would
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Speaker 6: be more extreme and they'd be more frequent, and that
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Speaker 6: is what we are seeing playing out.
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Speaker 2: It does say that, in fact, he doubled down on
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Speaker 2: that nonsense today.
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Speaker 6: If there's one thing that stunned me about last night,
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Speaker 6: it was Peter Dutton being asked not a very difficult
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Speaker 6: question about whether he agreed with the science on climate change,
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Speaker 6: and effectively he said he's not a scientist and couldn't
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Speaker 6: say there were different views. I would have thought that
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Speaker 6: the science is very clear on climate change. And when
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Speaker 6: you have a tropical cyclone headed for the coastline here
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Speaker 6: of southeast Queensland and northern New South Wales, then I
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Speaker 6: don't know what it takes to give a wake up
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Speaker 6: call to the coalition.
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Speaker 2: Not one journalist there at Albanizer for lying. First, as
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Speaker 2: you heard for yourself, did not say what Albanize claimed
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Speaker 2: he said. And second, the argument is not about whether
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Speaker 2: the climate changes. It does, and Dunton today said it does. Third,
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Speaker 2: tropical Low Trevor, that tropical low that hit Australia last month,
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Speaker 2: it was not a cyclone. By the time of God,
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Speaker 2: it was not a cyclone. It wasn't strong enough. And
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Speaker 2: fourth Trevor was not evidence of an extreme event caused
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Speaker 2: by global warming, or evidence of more extreme weather events
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Speaker 2: of any kind. If anything, the very opposite.
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Speaker 3: Just go to the Bureau of Meteorology yourself. Check it out.
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Speaker 2: Shows very clearly we're actually getting fewer cyclones over the
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Speaker 2: past fifty seventy five years. The bible of the global
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Speaker 2: warming movement, through intergovernment panel and Climate Change its report
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Speaker 2: says exactly the same, and whats more predicts we will
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Speaker 2: get even fewer cyclones. But there's Albanizi babbling, oh cyclone
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Speaker 2: global warming, and so the journalists today say, oh, yes,
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Speaker 2: but what about floods. They're more and they're worse. Again,
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Speaker 2: look at the data overall, no real change in total
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Speaker 2: rain over Australia over the last one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: five years or looked just at our eastern's space, if
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Speaker 2: you must true, they have had a bit more rain
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Speaker 2: lately than one hundred and twenty years ago, but a
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Speaker 2: bit less since the years of the nineteen seventy. So
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Speaker 2: again no signal here of more extreme weather. But if
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Speaker 2: how many easy was telling you absolute fantasies today, the
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Speaker 2: treasure was outright bald faced lying. And this is labor strict,
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Speaker 2: by the way in this campaign to lie with total conviction.
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Speaker 7: Sacking forty thousand people won't be enough for Peter Dudden
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Speaker 7: to pay for his nuclear reactors. There is no way
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Speaker 7: he can find the six hundred billion dollars he needs
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Speaker 7: for his nuclear reactors without coming after medicare again like
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Speaker 7: he did when he was the Health minister, without big
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Speaker 7: cuts to health and educate. And that's more or less
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Speaker 7: what Peter Dutton admitted last night.
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Speaker 3: Again, no one there called out those lies. Lie one.
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Speaker 2: No, Dutton isn't saying he'll sack forty thousand public service
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Speaker 2: he says he won't replace them.
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Speaker 3: Big difference. Lie two.
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Speaker 2: Dutton's promised nuclear power stations will not cost six hundred
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Speaker 2: billion dollars, four times the likely cost maybe more and
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Speaker 2: lie three. No, Dutton does not have secret cuts the medicares,
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Speaker 2: in fact promise nine billion dollars extra for it. That's
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Speaker 2: the key pillars of a Labour's campaign.
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Speaker 3: Outright lies. I've never seen an election like it.
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Speaker 2: But look, you know, Dutton gets one manu fact wrong,
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Speaker 2: corrects himself unfit to govern. Alby's in charmers, lie and
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Speaker 2: lie again right in the faces of the media after,
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Speaker 2: by the way, winning the last election with another hugely
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Speaker 2: I remember their green schemes. We cut power bills by
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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars and these lie have
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Speaker 2: the hide to say that Dutton is unfit to govern.
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Speaker 2: It's the tragedy of this campaign. Labor is hopeless at governing,
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Speaker 2: but brilliant at lying and so good at it that
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Speaker 2: they're still in this election. What does that say about
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Speaker 2: our country? And Labor is so shameless now that well,
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Speaker 2: I could do a whole show every night about the
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Speaker 2: exposing the lies. What does it say about this government's
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Speaker 2: intellectual and moral bankruptcy? And what does it say about
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Speaker 2: the country that this truth truth doesn't matter. I'll give
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Speaker 2: you an example again from today. Environments of tenure plivacy,
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Speaker 2: who canceled the one billion dollar gold Man by the way,
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Speaker 2: because of some imaginary sacred be that many local Aborigines
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Speaker 2: have never heard of. Well privucc today against mear the
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Speaker 2: Liberals plan to build nuclear reactors, this time posting that
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton is a mean truthful Let's get the facts straight.
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Speaker 3: I wish they.
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Speaker 2: Would if you want that, deliver the nuclear engines promised
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Speaker 2: they'll need three times more water than coal. He'll need
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Speaker 2: to find over a Sydney harvest worth of water every year.
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Speaker 3: Where's it going to come from? Who will pay the sleeve?
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Speaker 2: Aside the gross exaggeration for a second, where's the water
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Speaker 2: going to come from? Well, here's one possible source, tenure.
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Speaker 2: It's the same one that's been used for four new
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Speaker 2: nuclear reactors in the United Arab Emirates. It just happens
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Speaker 2: to be a desert country and it's called the Sea.
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Speaker 2: The sea, by the way, South Korean company built those
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Speaker 2: four reactors for thirty six billion dollars. Here you've got
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Speaker 2: labors saying, oh the Liberal seven that would cost six
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. Joining me as Will Shackle, the founder
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Speaker 2: of Nuclear for Australia. Will you must be going as
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Speaker 2: spare as me about some of the unbelievable stories being
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Speaker 2: told about these nuclear reactors. Now, let's try and nail
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Speaker 2: one of them. She says they need three times more
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Speaker 2: water than a coal fired generator for the cooling for
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Speaker 2: the steam to drive the turbines.
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Speaker 3: Is that correct, Well.
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Speaker 8: No, it isn't, because nuclear power plants use water very
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Speaker 8: similar to a colified power plant, and that's to condense
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Speaker 8: the steam back into water once it's been through the
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Speaker 8: steam turbines. Now, in reality, the actual difference is very small.
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Speaker 8: The actual difference that is being cited by the Environment
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Speaker 8: Minister is because the nuclear power plants that she is
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Speaker 8: assuming will generate more electricity than the coal plants currently
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Speaker 8: in the locations identified for the nuclear power plants. There's
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Speaker 8: a reason why nuclear experts have not raised this as
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Speaker 8: an issue and if it was an issue. In addition
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Speaker 8: to using larger water sources like the sea, like you mentioned, Andrew,
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Speaker 8: there's also the ability to use dry cooling. So this
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Speaker 8: is really just part of the water nuclear fear campaign
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Speaker 8: at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Plus, of course they can use the water, put it
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Speaker 2: back in say a lake or whatever, and then use
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Speaker 2: it again. So it's not like it's got on Plebisca,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Abneezy, Jim Charmers, Chris Bone, I mean just about
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Speaker 2: every labor MPE's got in the little crib notes that
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Speaker 2: are sent to every MP. This is what you've got
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Speaker 2: to talk about. These are the lines of attack. They're
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Speaker 2: claiming seven nuclear reactors. That's the liberal plans. Seven nuclear reactors.
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Speaker 2: Forestra is going to cost six hundred billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: What is the truth?
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Speaker 8: Well, look, it's really scary that the whole anti nuclear
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Speaker 8: campaign is based on a lie. That six hundred billion
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Speaker 8: dollar figure comes from extrapolating the cost of the most
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Speaker 8: expensive nuclear power plant ever and then doubling it. Even
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Speaker 8: the CSIRO, who many nuclear experts disagree with, say that
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Speaker 8: nuclear would be more than five times cheaper. Now this
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Speaker 8: is from the Smart Energy Council, a renewable energy lobby organization.
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Speaker 8: And meanwhile, the rest of the world is going nuclear.
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Speaker 8: Thirty two countries have nuclear power, fifty considering it for
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Speaker 8: the first time. Australia is the only top twenty economy
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Speaker 8: currently ignoring nuclear power. So we're falling behind the rest
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Speaker 8: of the world. As these lies and fear about nuclear
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Speaker 8: power continue from the highest office, including the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: It's extraordinary. Well, apparently they're insulting Australia. They're saying, of
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Speaker 2: the top twenty economies, we're the only ones who are
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Speaker 2: too stupid to work out how to make a nuclear work,
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Speaker 2: even though were sitting on one of the world's greatest
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Speaker 2: deposits of uranium.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just stunning.
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Speaker 2: Will Shackle, I've said to you before, I really admire
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Speaker 2: the work that you do and trying to bring light
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Speaker 2: to this darkness. Thank you again for doing it tonight.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. It's truly unbelievable that guy, what is he twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty one?
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Speaker 2: He knows more about nuclear than the Environment Minister, or
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Speaker 2: at least is telling the truth.
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Speaker 3: She isn't. Actually, I've got to correct myself.
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Speaker 2: There were a few journalists today who did try to
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Speaker 2: nail down some labor lies, and naturally they included our
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Speaker 2: own Juliet Bradley. When Anthony Obernezi told an absolute whopper
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Speaker 2: at last night's debate, he claimed last night that his
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Speaker 2: government had not asked their public servants to model the
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Speaker 2: cost of scrapping negative gearing for people only more than
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Speaker 2: one home, which would really hurt their pocket if he
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Speaker 2: did that.
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Speaker 3: No, no, he hadn't done that at all.
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Speaker 1: Was it modeled.
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Speaker 6: It certainly wasn't commissioned by us to do so.
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Speaker 4: It was modeled by the government. It was publicly it's
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Speaker 4: publicly available. This Prime Minister has a problem with the truth.
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Speaker 2: And the thing is that what Albanezi said is not
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Speaker 2: what his own treasurer and rival, Jim Chalmers said last
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Speaker 2: year when he admitted he'd asked for costings on exactly
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Speaker 2: that idea.
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Speaker 7: It is not unusual at all for governments or for
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Speaker 7: treasurers to get advice on contentious issues which are in
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Speaker 7: the public domain, including in the past. It is not
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Speaker 7: unusual for treasurers to do that. But we have made
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Speaker 7: it very clear through the course of this week that
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Speaker 7: we have a broad and ambitious housing policy already and
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Speaker 7: those changes aren't part of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, charmers try to save Albanzi today's press conference.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I didn't actually.
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Speaker 2: Commission costs things as sort of asked for input, asked
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Speaker 2: the round. I mean, come on, Jim dunmm, make a
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Speaker 2: fool yourself. But boy did Albanezi get hed up today
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Speaker 2: when Julia Bradley said, well, hello, is scrapping negative gearing
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Speaker 2: which is what the Greens want? Is that something you
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Speaker 2: might then negotiate with the Greens to get their support
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Speaker 2: after the election.
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Speaker 3: ALBANIZI did not like that.
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Speaker 4: Do you all out meeting the greens demands on negative gearing?
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Speaker 6: I rule out negotiating with the Greens. That's even further
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Speaker 6: for you.
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Speaker 1: I I have responded to that lots.
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Speaker 6: Of time, say after again, boy, you can ask you again,
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Speaker 6: You're get the same answer. We have our housing policy
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Speaker 6: that we are taking forward the Greens. I am not
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Speaker 6: negotiating with the Greens. We make it very clear.
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Speaker 3: You can trust him, can't Yeah? I mean, isn't.
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Speaker 2: This is the guy that before the election promised he
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Speaker 2: wouldn't even he wouldn't change those Stage three tax cuts
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Speaker 2: they were going to go through, and then after the
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Speaker 2: election changed them completely. Joining me his deputy Liberal leader
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Speaker 2: Susan Lee, who actually has a new policy to sell
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Speaker 2: that I'll get.
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Speaker 3: To in a minute. Susan, thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: your time.
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Speaker 2: You know what gets me I got to say is
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Speaker 2: why the coalition campaign hasn't been smashing those key labor
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Speaker 2: lies like you know you guys are going to destroy medicare.
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Speaker 2: You've got secret cuts in mind, you've got nuclear power
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Speaker 2: stations that have cost six hundred billion dollars. It's been
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Speaker 2: out there every single day. I heard it twice on
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Speaker 2: just skying Nears from a couple of spokesmen.
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Speaker 9: Well, we are Andrew, and we must. And as I
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Speaker 9: listen to communities and travel around the country, including with
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton in the Hunter, today Australians are much smarter
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Speaker 9: than this Prime Minister gives them credit for. And as
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Speaker 9: someone who's passionate about things being made in Australia, you
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Speaker 9: listen to this Prime Minister talk all the time about
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Speaker 9: made in Australia when we're seeing everything that was made
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Speaker 9: in Australia manufactured here going overseas because energy is unaffordable
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Speaker 9: or it's unreliable. And this trend has just got to stop.
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Speaker 9: Triple the number of manufacturing insolvencies under this government and
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Speaker 9: thirty thousand small businesses have gone to the wall. These
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Speaker 9: are alarming and awful statistics. And again I know Australians
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Speaker 9: are tuning in to the messages that we're sending them
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Speaker 9: and we're always listening, and it's so important at this
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Speaker 9: election that they realize and I know they are, how
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Speaker 9: we have to get the kind of you back on
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Speaker 9: track and we are going in the wrong direction under Labor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still can't help but thinking who is running
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Speaker 2: your campaigns have been flat footed in having a really
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Speaker 2: decisive bang bang bang, so that every time they tell
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Speaker 2: a lie, everyone listening knows it's a lie. The media
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Speaker 2: double standards though they really get me, Susan. I mean
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Speaker 2: many journalists running the Labor lie that Peter Dutton is
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Speaker 2: copying Donald Trump, And I ask you, could you imagine
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Speaker 2: if Peter Dutton last night had said what ALBERNIZI did
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Speaker 2: about trusting Trump.
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Speaker 3: Listen to this. Do you trust Donald Trump?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: I have no reason not to.
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Speaker 2: What if Peter Dutton had gone first he said I
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Speaker 2: trust Donald Trump and I have no reason not to.
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Speaker 2: He would have been laughed out of town, wouldn't he.
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Speaker 9: Well, Labor is shamelessly politicizing the issue of Australia's relationship
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Speaker 9: with Donald Trump. With the US, we have worked productively
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Speaker 9: with every U administration, Biden Obama, the first Trump administration.
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Speaker 9: We had strong personal relationships that delivered the right outcome
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Speaker 9: on steel and aluminium tariffs in twenty and eighteen, and
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Speaker 9: we are well placed to have the same positive relationships.
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Speaker 9: But you're quite right, Andrew, this shameless politicizing of that
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Speaker 9: relationship is done in the way that this Prime Minister
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Speaker 9: is doing everything in this campaign. He's telling lies, he's
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Speaker 9: being petty. At no point is he demonstrating his genuine
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Speaker 9: care for the Australian people. And at no point is
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Speaker 9: he fessing up to all of the promises that he
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Speaker 9: has broken. And you saw that in the debate last
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Speaker 9: night when he was put on the sticky paper and
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Speaker 9: asked when will prices come down? Power prices come down,
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Speaker 9: and he simply could not answer because there is no
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Speaker 9: plan for power prices to come down. And that means
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Speaker 9: manufacturing in this country continues to be under threat with
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Speaker 9: a labor government.
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Speaker 2: And yet I've got to say, you know, the shameless
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Speaker 2: laying is working. I mean they're making it work. And
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Speaker 2: that's a real issue for you guys. How you counter that.
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Speaker 2: But look to the policy you've just announced. You came
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Speaker 2: on to discuss. You're going to create twelve Australian technical colleges.
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Speaker 2: These are specialist schools for years ten to eleven, twelve
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Speaker 2: you know, at the end of high school or eleven
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Speaker 2: to twelve for kids that don't want the usual academic
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Speaker 2: educations a throwback to the past. In fact, Howard Governor
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Speaker 2: actually set up technical colleges twenty four of them at
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Speaker 2: some stage for kids that wanted to not so go
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Speaker 2: not such an academic high school, but more trades orientated.
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Speaker 2: But then labor scrapped them. Was that because they'd actually
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Speaker 2: been tried and failed?
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Speaker 10: They did?
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Speaker 9: And I assume the education unions had a lot to
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Speaker 9: do with that, But I was at one with Peter
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Speaker 9: today that actually survived those scrapping of the technical col
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Speaker 9: is in two thousand and eight, and that's the Hunter
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Speaker 9: Trade College. And you're right, Andrew, this is a generational
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Speaker 9: investment into skills and training in our schools because we
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Speaker 9: in the Coalition will always resist the view that if
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Speaker 9: you haven't made it to university, you haven't made it
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Speaker 9: in life. And to walk around the facilities today, to
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Speaker 9: see the training in automotive, in carpentry, in all of
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Speaker 9: the trades that build a house, which we so critically
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Speaker 9: need today, and see how these young men and women
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Speaker 9: are finding their way into employment pathways into the workforce
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Speaker 9: and through what can be challenging years in secondary education
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Speaker 9: if you don't fit the Atar model. And I'm delighted
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Speaker 9: that this two hundred and sixty million dollar investment in
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Speaker 9: twelve Australian technical collegies colleges has been announced and what
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Speaker 9: it will deliver for parents, for the school community, but
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Speaker 9: most importantly for the skills pipeline because the Prime Minister
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Speaker 9: talks a big game when it comes to skills and training,
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Speaker 9: but we've seen ninety thousand fewer apprentices and trainees since
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Speaker 9: he came to government, and we just haven't seen a
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Speaker 9: focus on building that pipeline and building that workforce for
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Speaker 9: the future.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think there are a lot of kids sitting
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Speaker 2: at the high schools that want to work with their hands,
21:19
Speaker 2: and I think it's right to stream them earlier if
21:21
Speaker 2: that's what they want. I think it's wrong to make
21:24
Speaker 2: sort of one size fits all. Susan La, thank you
21:26
Speaker 2: so much, indeed for your time. I have to say
21:28
Speaker 2: Peter Dupmaster today talking about if he gets back into
21:32
Speaker 2: if he gets elected, he wants to do a tackle
21:34
Speaker 2: bracket creek tax reform, but not yet. It sounded really
21:38
Speaker 2: good and obviously it needs to be done. But if
21:41
Speaker 2: only you started talking about that a few months ago,
21:43
Speaker 2: I think it would have been good. So at least
21:45
Speaker 2: he is talking about it.
21:46
Speaker 3: After the break.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump now threatens war, and one of Americas Stop
21:51
Speaker 2: General says he should ignore his hopeless mate. He's been
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Speaker 2: making him look weak. Are at a moment of crisis,
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Speaker 2: a moment of truth for America, for the West, for US,
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Speaker 2: and for Donald Trump. Now. Trump got elected on a
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Speaker 2: promise to stop to wars in Ukraine and in Israel.
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Speaker 3: Hasn't happened.
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Speaker 2: Instead, it is now threatening a third war, a US
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Speaker 2: attack on Iran to stop it from getting a nuclear bomb.
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Speaker 2: And this has to be done. This has to be stopped.
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Speaker 2: Trump has sent two aircraft carriers and other warships the
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Speaker 2: waters close to Iran with this morning, ahead of talks
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Speaker 2: with Iran on the weekend. Stop your nuclear program or else.
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Speaker 3: If we have to do something very harsh, we'll do it.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not doing it for us, I'm doing it
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Speaker 3: for the world.
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Speaker 11: And these are radicalized people that they cannot have a
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Speaker 11: nuclear workers evental straight und Iranian huclear facility.
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Speaker 1: Of course, it does.
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Speaker 2: Good, but Trump again faces a huge problem that's been
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Speaker 2: building up his bluffs are so far being called. Iran
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Speaker 2: is part of an alliance of tyrannies dominated by China,
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Speaker 2: including Russia and North Korea, and all think America is weak.
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Speaker 2: All are helping Russia in its war in Ukraine, sending
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Speaker 2: weapons or Julius technology, or even soldiers in the case
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Speaker 2: of North Korea. And Trump's adea that if it's nice
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Speaker 2: enough to Russia's president, if he gives Putin what he
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Speaker 2: wants in Ukraine, that Putin will then end this no
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Speaker 2: limits partnership. That's what he calls it, no limits with China.
23:33
Speaker 2: That idea is a fantasy and it's going to cost
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Speaker 2: a lot of lives if Trump doesn't realize the big
23:39
Speaker 2: game these guys are playing with him. And what's delaying
23:44
Speaker 2: this moment of truth, what's making it worse, is that
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Speaker 2: Trump chose a guy must now be the world's worst
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Speaker 2: diplomat to go and fix all three conflicts. It's his friend,
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Speaker 2: a real estate tycoon, Steve Wittkoff, no experience in this
23:59
Speaker 2: at all, a buffoon who has bungled everything is so
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Speaker 2: far touched, who's been the ultimate signal of American weakness,
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Speaker 2: A friend to every tyrant.
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Speaker 3: This Steve Whitkoff.
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Speaker 2: He claimed he could get on with hamas here were
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Speaker 2: those reasonable men well that instead now broken his seaes
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Speaker 2: fire and are still fighting with Israel. Whindkof said he
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Speaker 2: liked Putin, liked him, and Putin well had told him
24:24
Speaker 2: that Trump could just end the war in Ukraine by
24:26
Speaker 2: simply giving Putin five provinces in Ukraine, a lot of
24:30
Speaker 2: them still in Ukraine's hands, and Putin meanwhile, don't even
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Speaker 2: stop fighting.
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Speaker 3: It's a joke.
24:36
Speaker 2: And now Vitkov after stuffing that up too, no cease
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Speaker 2: far there is meeting. He met Iranian officials just the
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Speaker 2: other day, gave into them as well, said they could
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Speaker 2: keep a civilian nuclear program before he got a rocker
24:50
Speaker 2: from Trump and changed his.
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Speaker 3: Mind on Tuesday. So o wops. Though, no nuclearan Richmond
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Speaker 3: by Iran at all will be permitted.
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Speaker 2: I mean, talk at the flip flop flip flop. That
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Speaker 2: is really signaling weakness. And as long as Vitkov is
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Speaker 2: Trump's envoy in Russia, in the Middle East and now
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Speaker 2: over there in Iran, America's enemies are going to conclude
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Speaker 2: that Trump is all bark and no bait. America is
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Speaker 2: in decline. And this is China's century. As Jijinping, the
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Speaker 2: dictator keeps saying, the only thing that might help Trump
25:24
Speaker 2: with Iran is that this isn't mis leaders are hugely
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Speaker 2: unpopular with their own people, so they still could be
25:29
Speaker 2: a revolution there. But otherwise, but let's talk to a
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Speaker 2: man that Donald Trump does trust and has twice asked
25:36
Speaker 2: to be his Secretary of Defense, General Jack Keane. He
25:39
Speaker 2: was fastie for Staff the United States Army in a
25:41
Speaker 2: four star general and is now chairman of the Institute
25:44
Speaker 2: for the Study of War. General Keane, Great to see
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Speaker 2: you again. What does America actually want from Iran?
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Speaker 3: And why?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 12: Well, certainly, just recently in America as some confusion as
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Speaker 12: to what we're attempting to achieve based on some comments
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Speaker 12: that are Special Envoy to the Middle East who is
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Speaker 12: leading negotiations, made I think the President. He had a
26:13
Speaker 12: meeting yesterday with his entire team and clarified and he
26:18
Speaker 12: said at that meeting exactly what he said to me
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Speaker 12: down in Florida four days prior to the inauguration, that
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Speaker 12: he doesn't want to run to have a nuclear weapon,
26:29
Speaker 12: and to implement that, he has issued an ultimatum to
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Speaker 12: the Iranians to voluntarily dismantle their entire nuclear enterprise, to
26:41
Speaker 12: include the ballistic missiles to deliver it. In other words,
26:44
Speaker 12: give up the enrichment, destroyed the deeply buried centifuge facilities
26:52
Speaker 12: that they have, and destroy the ballistic missiles. Do that
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Speaker 12: by a date certain and have it verified by independent inspectors.
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Speaker 12: And then the alternative, if you're not willing to do that,
27:10
Speaker 12: is that Israel and the United States will destroy that
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Speaker 12: nuclear enterprise. That, in so many words, is what the
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Speaker 12: President hasn't intended.
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Speaker 1: That's not.
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Speaker 12: What began at the meeting last Saturday by his envoy,
27:28
Speaker 12: and that since since has been corrected. I mean what
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Speaker 12: I have said publicly as late as this morning here
27:36
Speaker 12: in America. The next meeting should be a meeting and
27:41
Speaker 12: demanding from the Iranians and implementation plan with a milestone
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Speaker 12: schedule by a date certain to do what I just said.
27:51
Speaker 12: Show us how you're going to go do that. Just
27:54
Speaker 12: so our audience understands. In the ten years since Obama
27:59
Speaker 12: made the deal, well to let Iran have enriched uranium
28:05
Speaker 12: at severe nuclear power levels which would eventually be able
28:11
Speaker 12: to grow over time in the sunset clauses when he
28:15
Speaker 12: allowed that to happen ten years later from that, Iran's
28:19
Speaker 12: not the same country. They could go to a secret
28:22
Speaker 12: site tomorrow after they gave up all their enrichment and
28:27
Speaker 12: their current sites and rapidly developed enriched uranium to weapons
28:32
Speaker 12: grade in a matter of weeks.
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Speaker 3: But General, I'm just worried.
28:37
Speaker 2: Do you mention that special envoy who bungled the messages
28:41
Speaker 2: actually took around shopping back to America?
28:44
Speaker 3: Really?
28:45
Speaker 2: Steve Wvitkov, he was also involved in the ceasefire deal.
28:49
Speaker 2: That's fallen a pattern between Hamas. He said that Hamas
28:52
Speaker 2: they seem to be decent people he could get on with.
28:55
Speaker 2: He thought that Putin was almost considered him a friend,
29:00
Speaker 2: and Putin is just stringing him along on Ukraine. And
29:02
Speaker 2: again this guy goes back to the White House that says,
29:06
Speaker 2: all you need to do is give Putin five Ukrainian
29:10
Speaker 2: provinces and she'll be sweet. Now, the guy that you
29:14
Speaker 2: briefed on this General Killog, who was the special envoy
29:18
Speaker 2: to Ukraine, argued against it.
29:21
Speaker 3: This Witkov is a nut.
29:23
Speaker 2: I mean, how much longer can this guy be allowed
29:26
Speaker 2: to represent Trump before Trump looks like a laughing stock.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, It's been well reported in the United States,
29:34
Speaker 12: and mister Whitkoff, most people who do know him and
29:38
Speaker 12: have a relationship with him, thinks he's a pretty good guy,
29:42
Speaker 12: that's the first thing people tell you. But he doesn't
29:45
Speaker 12: have the experience to deal with these nation states on
29:50
Speaker 12: some complicated issues. I'm not disputing the fact that he
29:53
Speaker 12: likely was a very good negotiator dealing with business deals.
29:56
Speaker 12: But business deals are all about compromising to arrive at
30:00
Speaker 12: a position that is mutually benefit shield to both.
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Speaker 1: That is not what's involved here. I mean Aaran.
30:09
Speaker 12: Started proxy wars in the Middle East and they're trying
30:12
Speaker 12: to destroy the state of Israel.
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Speaker 1: The Supreme Leader has just.
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Speaker 12: Said that yesterday. The President is fully supported net Yao.
30:20
Speaker 12: I'm dealing with Hamas. They've gone back in there. They
30:23
Speaker 12: got a new chief of their idef. He's applying a
30:26
Speaker 12: different strategy. He wants to occupy four different buffer zones
30:30
Speaker 12: in Gaza, not go in and do raids and then
30:33
Speaker 12: get out. Occupy them, move all of people out and
30:36
Speaker 12: kill as many Hamas as they can.
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Speaker 1: They've got a different plan.
30:41
Speaker 12: That they're executing, and they believe because it is so aggressive,
30:45
Speaker 12: that Hamas will give up the hostages. When it comes
30:47
Speaker 12: to Russia, I certainly wish that General Kellogg was in
30:53
Speaker 12: charge of that team doing the negotiations, because I say, again,
30:58
Speaker 12: are negotiating there shouldn't be trying to facilitate some kind
31:03
Speaker 12: of a compromise between Russia and Ukraine which is beneficial
31:08
Speaker 12: to both parties. Ukraine is an ally a partner. We
31:13
Speaker 12: want something that's very favorable to them at the expense
31:17
Speaker 12: of Russia. That should be the objective. And Russia is
31:22
Speaker 12: isolated internationally. They have committed the war crimes, they have
31:26
Speaker 12: committed genocide, they have kidnapped thousands of children there right
31:30
Speaker 12: now as we speak, conducted in targeted air strikes against
31:35
Speaker 12: civilian population, and we saw what happened there on Palm Sunday.
31:39
Speaker 1: We apply pressure to get what's.
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Speaker 12: Favorable to Ukraine and the war, and if that doesn't happen,
31:46
Speaker 12: then we upgun Ukraine. We slap the toughest sanctions that
31:49
Speaker 12: are possible on Russia to finally, once and for all,
31:54
Speaker 12: triple their economy because's going to shut down people from
31:57
Speaker 12: buying their oil and go.
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Speaker 1: After thisral banking system.
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Speaker 12: I do wish that Kellogg was back in there, but
32:04
Speaker 12: that decision has been made, and that train has left
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Speaker 12: the station.
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Speaker 1: We are where we are here.
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Speaker 12: I'm still hopeful, though, Andrew, and for the sake of
32:12
Speaker 12: your audience, that this thing is going to work out,
32:15
Speaker 12: because I think Putin will play into our hands because
32:20
Speaker 12: he is a bully, he is a thug, he's a
32:22
Speaker 12: hard nose, and he's trying to negotiate to get concessions
32:26
Speaker 12: that will make Ukraine vulnerable. And what I'm advocating here
32:32
Speaker 12: publicly and privately, it is time now to get tough
32:37
Speaker 12: with Putin, begin the crippling sanctions and upgun Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: That will get his attention.
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Speaker 2: Well, that would require a real change of heart from
32:50
Speaker 2: people at JD. Evans and others. We shall. We must
32:54
Speaker 2: hope that maybe Marca Rubia, the Secretary of State, is
32:58
Speaker 2: allowed to conduct the foreign policy again. And General Kean
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Speaker 2: always great to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, great talking you a good scene again, Andrew, thank you.
33:08
Speaker 2: After the break, another one hundred Christians murdered just before Easter.
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Speaker 3: Why have you not been told?
33:17
Speaker 2: It's Easter this weekend, which of course is the holiest
33:22
Speaker 2: celebration for Christians, marking the crucifixion of Christ and his
33:26
Speaker 2: returned from death as resurrection three days later, and I
33:31
Speaker 2: think we should remember something that's usually overlooked or ignored
33:35
Speaker 2: by most of the media. Christians are the most persecuted
33:39
Speaker 2: faith year in year out. I mean, it's true that
33:42
Speaker 2: Jews face more hatred, but more Christians get killed.
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Speaker 3: Just in the past three.
33:47
Speaker 2: Weeks, and just Nigeria alone, another one hundred and thirteen
33:51
Speaker 2: Christians massacred by Islamic extremists without any protests here in
33:56
Speaker 2: our streets or our newspapers. Joining is the power Level
34:00
Speaker 2: and Ray Farmer, former policeman, Sky News regular and James
34:03
Speaker 2: McPherson from the Late Debate here on Sky News and
34:05
Speaker 2: a former Christian pastor himself, James. The story here for
34:11
Speaker 2: years is that Christianity is dying right, although it still
34:15
Speaker 2: the religion for forty four percent of Australians according to
34:17
Speaker 2: the Census.
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Speaker 3: But new research this week I've found very interesting.
34:22
Speaker 2: It says not so fast. It is true a lot
34:24
Speaker 2: of people who are simply raised in Christian families not
34:27
Speaker 2: really religious themselves, did stop ticking the Christian box in
34:31
Speaker 2: the Census, but nearly eight hundred thousand people who said
34:35
Speaker 2: they weren't Christians nine years ago said they were five
34:38
Speaker 2: years later, particularly older people. What does this tell you, I.
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Speaker 1: Think, Andrew.
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Speaker 13: It tells us that secular humanism doesn't answer the very
34:46
Speaker 13: real human need for meaning and purpose. Eat, drink and
34:50
Speaker 13: be merry for tomorrow we die. Is a great way
34:53
Speaker 13: to live for a while. But eventually, when you start
34:56
Speaker 13: to reach the age of fifty or above, you start
34:59
Speaker 13: to thin.
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Speaker 1: I think, is this all there is?
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Speaker 13: I've got my house, I've got my car. But there's
35:04
Speaker 13: got to be more to life than simply this, and
35:07
Speaker 13: you start to think about existential things such as meaning
35:10
Speaker 13: and purpose. You start to look for a worldview that
35:14
Speaker 13: makes sense of the life you see around you, and
35:16
Speaker 13: indeed of yourself. Design implies a designer, the law implies.
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Speaker 1: A law giver.
35:22
Speaker 13: Maybe there is a God, and if there is a God,
35:24
Speaker 13: clearly we're separated from him. The Christian faith teaches that
35:28
Speaker 13: Jesus came to reconnect us to God. C. S. Lewis said,
35:31
Speaker 13: even if you don't believe in Christianity, you should want
35:34
Speaker 13: it to be true. And I think these surveys show
35:38
Speaker 13: that a lot of people are exploring that and hoping
35:41
Speaker 13: that maybe there is more to life than simply accumulating
35:44
Speaker 13: a whole lot of goods that simply gather dust while
35:47
Speaker 13: you yourself buried in the ground and your life amounts
35:50
Speaker 13: to nothing. I think none of us really want to
35:52
Speaker 13: live with our feet firmly planted in mid air. We're
35:55
Speaker 13: all wanting meaning and purpose. Christianity provides that. And as
35:59
Speaker 13: you get old start to think about those things.
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Speaker 2: Well, you see a slew As quote strikes me as
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Speaker 2: absolutely true. True for me, even though I'm a tim
36:08
Speaker 2: mouse shopper, I guess, sir Evelyn, is Christianity dying?
36:13
Speaker 14: Oh absolutely not. And you know what GK. Chested and
36:16
Speaker 14: you know, speaking of CS. Lewis's is another great theologian.
36:19
Speaker 14: He once said Christianity has died many times and risen again,
36:23
Speaker 14: for it has a God who knew the way out
36:25
Speaker 14: of the grave. And I think that is so true today.
36:28
Speaker 14: But I actually think we need to start giving the
36:30
Speaker 14: younger people a little bit more credit because of recent
36:33
Speaker 14: study out of the UK shows that there's been around
36:36
Speaker 14: a fifty percent increase in people attending church. I think
36:39
Speaker 14: it's something like two million people more have started attending.
36:43
Speaker 14: And interestingly, out of that test study, the most biggest
36:47
Speaker 14: growth area.
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Speaker 5: Was from eighteen to twenty four year olds. Praise God.
36:51
Speaker 5: The younger generations are seeing sense.
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Speaker 14: But actually I think a lot of this has to
36:55
Speaker 14: do with the shift of the death of Wokism. I
36:58
Speaker 14: think that there's a lot of mental building behind the
37:01
Speaker 14: scenes to do with that. And like James said, like
37:04
Speaker 14: you know, he said, people over fifty, but I think
37:06
Speaker 14: younger people as well. We are so starved for truth,
37:10
Speaker 14: we are starved for meaning and purpose, and we are
37:13
Speaker 14: certainly starved for Christian morals. And I think the militant
37:16
Speaker 14: de Christianization of the West has led people to kind
37:20
Speaker 14: of looking for alternatives. You know, it's been said before
37:23
Speaker 14: that there's two options before us Andrew is either Christ
37:28
Speaker 14: or it's chaos. And I think that's clearer today than
37:30
Speaker 14: we have ever seen before. And that's evident by the
37:33
Speaker 14: figures that we can see here.
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Speaker 3: I can see through my TV screen.
37:39
Speaker 2: One of my viewers, Peter is nodding wisely, has written
37:43
Speaker 2: great books on all this.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Peter.
37:47
Speaker 2: I've mentioned the debate last night on the ABC between
37:51
Speaker 2: Anthony Avenezi and Peter Dutton.
37:54
Speaker 3: There's not one question there.
37:56
Speaker 2: James about the customer living Cristis, but there was a
37:58
Speaker 2: question about the new religion of the wealthy left, global warming,
38:02
Speaker 2: and that was followed by more mockery of Peter Dutton
38:04
Speaker 2: on Charlie Pickering show on the ABC. You know it's
38:08
Speaker 2: told in the way. Oh of course, we all here
38:10
Speaker 2: on the ABC don't like Dutton. They've looked, Oh hold on, Beater,
38:14
Speaker 2: don't you want to fix the housing crises?
38:18
Speaker 10: Or he's just firing out figures and no one knows
38:20
Speaker 10: what the hell he's talking about.
38:22
Speaker 14: It's all in his.
38:23
Speaker 15: Imagination and he can get overly personal with staff.
38:28
Speaker 2: In contrast, was only affectionate ribbing of Anthony Obernezi. How
38:32
Speaker 2: does the ABC get away with this very it's now
38:34
Speaker 2: shameless bias Andrew.
38:37
Speaker 13: The ABC was established I think in nineteen thirty two
38:40
Speaker 13: when people needed access to media. Of course ninety five
38:44
Speaker 13: years have gone by. It's a very different world. Everybody's
38:47
Speaker 13: got news on their phone instantly, which begs the question,
38:50
Speaker 13: what is the purpose of the ABC? The ABC really
38:54
Speaker 13: don't have a purpose anymore. So they do what they please,
38:57
Speaker 13: and they can because they don't have customers that they
39:00
Speaker 13: need to satisfy. They don't have shareholders they need to reward,
39:05
Speaker 13: and so they can do as they please. In twenty eighteen,
39:08
Speaker 13: the Federal Liberal Council initiated a policy where they said
39:13
Speaker 13: the ABC should be defunded, but no coalition government has
39:16
Speaker 13: ever had the courage to follow up on it. So
39:19
Speaker 13: my complaint about Conservatives is they love to winge about
39:22
Speaker 13: the ABC, but when they get into government they never
39:25
Speaker 13: do anything about it.
39:26
Speaker 3: So winge all you want.
39:28
Speaker 13: If you want to change the ABC, then win government
39:30
Speaker 13: and have the courage to defund it, privatize it, make
39:33
Speaker 13: it a subscription service. It's pretty clear what to do.
39:36
Speaker 13: Someone's just scott to have the courage to actually do it.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely spot on.
39:43
Speaker 2: There's another thing today, you know another there's a cult
39:47
Speaker 2: also of an entity politics as well. Evelyn Anthony Albudy's
39:51
Speaker 2: Assistant Minister for Women, preaching anti Dutton hate today.
39:56
Speaker 10: He look when I put my hat on as Assistant
39:59
Speaker 10: Minister Women, is that Peter Dutton and the Liberals do
40:02
Speaker 10: not understand the lives of particularly modern Australian families and
40:06
Speaker 10: modern Australian working women.
40:09
Speaker 2: God they hate campaign against starting It's just extreme but
40:12
Speaker 2: an obvious question. Evelyn really answered, why do we have
40:16
Speaker 2: a Minister for women and not a Minister for men
40:19
Speaker 2: when you've got so many female ministers and when men
40:22
Speaker 2: are younger.
40:25
Speaker 14: Look, we don't have a Minister for men for one
40:27
Speaker 14: obvious reason.
40:28
Speaker 5: It's not advantageous politically.
40:31
Speaker 1: You know.
40:31
Speaker 5: Once women secured.
40:33
Speaker 14: The right to vote, politicians had to invent a whole
40:36
Speaker 14: world of injustices.
40:37
Speaker 5: Against women so that they had a purpose.
40:39
Speaker 14: And of course, Andrew, they presented themselves as the remedy
40:44
Speaker 14: for these injustices. You know, us poor defenseless women, you know,
40:48
Speaker 14: like we couldn't survive without these, you know, good willed
40:52
Speaker 14: politicians that were going to save us from all of
40:55
Speaker 14: our oppression. You know, we hear this every single election time.
40:59
Speaker 14: If you vote for the other I, you know what, women, you're.
41:01
Speaker 15: Going to lose all those hard earned rights that you
41:04
Speaker 15: fought decades for. You know, it's hard to believe that
41:08
Speaker 15: this sort of stuff is genuine when it's a privilege
41:11
Speaker 15: that's only afforded to half of the population, especially like
41:15
Speaker 15: you mentioned, Andrew, that the other half of the population
41:18
Speaker 15: is more likely to be homeless, more likely to commit suicide, murdered,
41:22
Speaker 15: suffer more social isolation, substance abuse, overdose deaths, incarceration, unreported
41:27
Speaker 15: mental health conditions are more likely to be falsely accused
41:30
Speaker 15: of a crime.
41:31
Speaker 5: But you know what, we're not allowed to.
41:32
Speaker 14: Talk about that, because, my goodness, the oppression of women
41:36
Speaker 14: in this country is just out of control. But you
41:39
Speaker 14: know what I think that we've all understood for a
41:42
Speaker 14: very long time, those of us with common sense, is
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Speaker 14: that women these days who say these sorts of things,
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Speaker 14: particularly in political circles, they're not looking for equality.
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Speaker 5: They've had that for years.
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Speaker 14: They're now looking for special privilege, and it's time we
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Speaker 14: start calling it exactly for what it is, inequality.
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Speaker 2: Well, or they're looking for a job, like I don't know,
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Speaker 2: it's just the US for women. That's a good job.
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Speaker 2: James McPherson, Evila Ray, thank you very much to you both,
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Speaker 2: and have a great ease after the break. How a
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Speaker 2: few women took on a government and made a court
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Speaker 2: finally say that only.
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Speaker 3: Women can be women.
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Speaker 2: It just struck me in the break talking about how
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Speaker 2: many older people are turning back to Christianity. If you're
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Speaker 2: interested in that, I'm not a Christian self, but questioning
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Speaker 2: another friend of mine. Paul Barnett, a former Anglican bishop,
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Speaker 2: has written some great books on the history of the
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Speaker 2: Gospel was a historical background to them, which I find
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Speaker 2: as a history buff absolutely fascinating. So looking for that,
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Speaker 2: I was just trying to look then. How you might
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Speaker 2: find them about Paul Barnett go internet shopping. I highly
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Speaker 2: recommend them. I've got to think about three of his
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Speaker 2: on my bookshelves. Anyway, we broke the news last that
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Speaker 2: Britain Supreme Court ruled unanimously that under the Equality Act,
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Speaker 2: a woman is someone who's actually born a woman, not
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Speaker 2: a man who later identified as one.
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Speaker 16: The unanimous decision of this court is that the terms
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Speaker 16: woman and sex in the Equality Act twenty to ten
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Speaker 16: refer to a biological woman.
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Speaker 2: And this verdic came only because some feminists fought the
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Speaker 2: Scottish government in court fought against it, saying that trans
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Speaker 2: women should be treated as real women, as biological women
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Speaker 2: under this act.
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Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
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Speaker 5: Absolutely jubilant.
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Speaker 2: Joining me from London as Patrick Christie, star presenter of
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Speaker 2: gb News. Patrick, great to see. How did this fight
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Speaker 2: actually start?
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Speaker 11: Well, firstly, it's great to now, isn't it that a
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Speaker 11: bloke in a waggoner frock is not a woman. I
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Speaker 11: mean we all thought it, but now we know we
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Speaker 11: the fight started because the won't mafia essentially went mental
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Speaker 11: and started saying that women should be forced to have
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Speaker 11: men with full tackle in their changing rooms, in their bathrooms,
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Speaker 11: in their sports matches, and if you didn't accept that
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Speaker 11: then you were a biggot.
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Speaker 1: There was the complete denial in.
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Speaker 11: This country of actual biology, and it is a threat
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Speaker 11: to women because whilst I am absolutely not saying that
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Speaker 11: all trans people are in some way sex offenders or
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Speaker 11: anything like that, would never say that. Unfortunately, the facts
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Speaker 11: are that two thirds of trans female prisoners trans women
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Speaker 11: prisoners are in for sex crimes. So women, biological women
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Speaker 11: felt incredibly threatened about all of this. They also felt
44:35
Speaker 11: as that their politicians were fundamentally letting them down. So
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Speaker 11: our current Prime minister unable to define what a woman
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Speaker 11: is for ages, Our foreign secretary thinks that men can
44:43
Speaker 11: grow a cervix. The leader of the Liberal Democrats says,
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Speaker 11: and I'm quoting now quite clearly, some women can have
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Speaker 11: a penis. So there were being let down by their
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Speaker 11: political establishment. You've also had the celebrity woke culture, haven't
44:56
Speaker 11: you like?
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Speaker 1: The JK.
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Speaker 11: Rowling issue with the Harry Potter cast, the Harry Potter actors,
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Speaker 11: bless them, not actually known for their acting ability. They
45:03
Speaker 11: would quite possibly be stacking shelves in a budget supermarket
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Speaker 11: if it wasn't for the fact that they happened to
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Speaker 11: look a bit like the characters that JK. Rowling imagined
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Speaker 11: in the Harry Potter books. They all disowned her because
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Speaker 11: she had views that a woman is a woman and
45:16
Speaker 11: she wasn't going to back down on that. But it's
45:19
Speaker 11: nice now to see that common sense has prevailed. The
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Speaker 11: next steps are going to get it, to get it
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Speaker 11: actually codified properly that men trans women cannot be in
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Speaker 11: women's sports, they cannot be in women's space. So there
45:34
Speaker 11: is still some way to go, but it is a
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Speaker 11: rare victory for common sense in modern Britain.
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Speaker 3: Andrew, Yeah, but that it had to be enforced by court.
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Speaker 2: But this means of course that women's spaces that say
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Speaker 2: we don't want trains women in a women's space, they
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Speaker 2: can't be soon now now, yes, you mentioned your Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: Politicians like him have got to be relieved.
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Speaker 2: They don't have to do this dance forever now, Like,
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Speaker 2: as you say, the Prime Minise of pretending that men
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Speaker 2: without cervixes could actually be women here, he is.
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Speaker 6: Is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix?
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Speaker 2: Well, it is something that shouldn't be said.
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Speaker 5: It is not right.
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Speaker 2: But does this fody mean that Keith's stammer's now change
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Speaker 2: his mind.
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Speaker 3: What's the reaction been.
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Speaker 11: Kis Salm has been very is gradually softened it to
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Speaker 11: the point where he says that the majority of women
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Speaker 11: are now adult human females. But it's fantastic watching a
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Speaker 11: whole host of politicians try and wriggle out of this
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Speaker 11: und Oh, I've always fully supported women's spaces, like the
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Speaker 11: labor leader up in Scotland. He then got community knows
46:44
Speaker 11: it on acts people just pointed out he'd actually not
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Speaker 11: always supported it, and so when there was a vote
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Speaker 11: on it in Parliament he did not support it. I
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Speaker 11: frankly think that a lot of these politicians that have
46:55
Speaker 11: that have been at the mercy of what I would
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Speaker 11: call the radical trans mafia for a very long time
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Speaker 11: now need to apologize to women. They need to come
47:04
Speaker 11: out and apologize to them. And I do think this
47:06
Speaker 11: has to start at home a bit as well. Seriously,
47:08
Speaker 11: I mean, how could you look at your wife in
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Speaker 11: the aisle or your daughter's in the eye, knowing that
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Speaker 11: you were denying their biological reality and potentially helping to
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Speaker 11: create a situation where they could be at risk if
47:19
Speaker 11: they decide to go to the.
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Speaker 1: Leisure center and there's a man in their changing room.
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Speaker 11: I'm not quite I'm not really sure that the record
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Speaker 11: will will remember the people well who didn't, who didn't
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Speaker 11: go and support women when it was difficult to support women,
47:33
Speaker 11: when you would have got a bit of pushback from
47:35
Speaker 11: people on the hard left.
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Speaker 1: It's all very well and good.
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Speaker 11: Doing it now hiding behind a judge saying, oh, it's
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Speaker 11: good that we've got clarity in the law, with respect Andrew.
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Speaker 1: The clarity is between all facts.
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Speaker 3: That's so true.
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Speaker 2: Patrick, You've given us some amazing stories of the kind
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Speaker 2: of legal immigrants your judges and tribunals have insisted stay
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Speaker 2: in Britain.
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Speaker 3: You say you can now top them all.
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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, right, so quickly, we have got a card
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Speaker 11: carrying Jahadi, a terrorist that wanted to set eight bombs
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Speaker 11: off around our second largest city in Birmingham, also wear
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Speaker 11: a suicide vest and then start shooting people at random.
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Speaker 1: Awful guy.
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Speaker 11: This would have been Britain's nine to eleven anyway, went
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Speaker 11: to prison for a minimum term of eighteen years, managed.
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Speaker 1: To get parole. At the parole hearing.
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Speaker 11: It emerged that he renounced his British citizenship. He is
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Speaker 11: now just a Pakistani citizen and he wants to go
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Speaker 11: back to Pakistan. He signed a waiver to say, I
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Speaker 11: don't care about my human rights in Pakistan, just send
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Speaker 11: me to Pakistan, and British human rights lawyers said, oh no,
48:37
Speaker 11: we better not do that, just in case his human
48:39
Speaker 11: rights are affected in Pakistan, and just in case the
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Speaker 11: people of Pakistani negatively affecting.
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Speaker 1: We can't even.
48:45
Speaker 11: Get rid of Jahaddes who want to go And Petrie
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Speaker 11: Betim you win, you win.
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Speaker 2: Patrick Christis, thank you so much for your time. And
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Speaker 2: I'm a book tip of the week, something by the
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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Danika de Georgio