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Ep. 42: Biggest Questions Heading into Week 11 | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Now the eye opener. We know the type of team
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  Speaker 1: we're capable of being. You know, I was telling him,
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  Speaker 1: boys laid in the forth like thank god it happened,
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  Speaker 1: like we ready to go. We should have been ready
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  Speaker 1: to go from the bye. But you know, NFL will
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  Speaker 1: humble you. NFL humble you went all over run early.
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  Speaker 1: It's about how you finished the season. Let's finish the
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  Speaker 1: right way to.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Jags A and the NFL will humble you.
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  Speaker 2: This team got humbled against the forty nine ers on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Brian Sexton, John Osier with me here today and we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna recap a little bit of what went down. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about that on Monday, but then we'll start to
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  Speaker 2: kind of turn the page a little bit and focus.
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  Speaker 3: On the Titans. Brian.
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  Speaker 2: We we're gonna talk about some big things a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but it's one of those where you need to still
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  Speaker 2: talk about it and acknowledge it cause it was that bad.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and we're gonna hear from Rayewon Jenkins understanding and
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  Speaker 4: I thought he had it down right, and he's one
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  Speaker 4: of the leaders in this locker room. Is that you
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  Speaker 4: better let that sharpen you, right, I mean, you better
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  Speaker 4: let that great on you cause you some pain so
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  Speaker 4: that you can grow through it and figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: And I think just some conversations that I've had with
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  Speaker 4: guys the last two days, I think they all would agree.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a big burn the tape guy or
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  Speaker 5: bury it or whatever you do with it when it's
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  Speaker 5: that bad.
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  Speaker 6: I think they will learn from it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm more of the pennoned I guess I've seen a
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  Speaker 5: lot of good teams lose a lot of games.
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  Speaker 6: And lose some in bad fashion.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I saw the Cole Salouse here in the
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  Speaker 5: game of three and seventy five yards rushing winning to the
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  Speaker 5: super Bowl, and people get tired of that analogy.
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  Speaker 6: It's one time, but it shows you that it happens.
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  Speaker 5: And it's important not to forget that this team has
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  Speaker 5: won eleven of its last four fourteen games. You can't
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  Speaker 5: forget that you got you know, boat raced the other day.
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  Speaker 5: But you also can't forget that the things you're doing
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  Speaker 5: are good enough to get to eleven and three, which
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  Speaker 5: back in the fourteen game seasons and number one seed.
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  Speaker 5: So don't lose sight of that either.
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  Speaker 4: Well, can you do what the Cowboys did right and Alliance.
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  Speaker 4: Both of them won their next two games after being blanked.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just absolutely. The Niners took apart the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: The Ravens demolished Alliance, and both of them are on
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  Speaker 4: winning streaks. The Cowboys lost in Philly, but they've won
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  Speaker 4: three or four. Can you rebound like that? I think
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  Speaker 4: the answer is yes, we'll find out on Sunday.
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  Speaker 6: It's not.
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  Speaker 5: It's I would say to use a college football analogy
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  Speaker 5: because I don't think this town is a college football
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  Speaker 5: town like that the way people say it is not
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  Speaker 5: what it once was. But if you lose thirty seven
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  Speaker 5: three in college football, you stink in the NFL. That's
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  Speaker 5: not how it is. You can lose like that. To
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  Speaker 5: pull an analogy from way back, one of the best
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  Speaker 5: teams of all time, the forty nine Ers, lost forty
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  Speaker 5: to eight to Philadelphia in nineteen ninety four and then
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  Speaker 5: basically ran the table the rest of the way and
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  Speaker 5: one of the all time great teams that's thirty years ago, got.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you go back more recently with it with the
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  Speaker 4: Patriots got bolted, their doors bowed off in Kansas City
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  Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, and they won the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: Right, I also lost once thirty one nothing in the
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  Speaker 5: open and won the Super Bowl. So it happens. It's
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  Speaker 5: you old cliche, it's what you do.
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  Speaker 2: Now moving forward, let's go over some of our big
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  Speaker 2: things for us today.
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  Speaker 3: Our first big thing is schooled.
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  Speaker 2: They got schooled against the forty nine ers, there's no
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  Speaker 2: doubt about that. But also moving forward using that as motivation,
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  Speaker 2: kind of sitting on it and helping it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: help you get prepared as you move forward. Rashon Jenkins
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  Speaker 2: talked a little bit about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: You know how that went down in that fashion yesterday,
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  Speaker 7: I would say kind of just letting that ling her
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  Speaker 7: around just a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit more.
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  Speaker 7: You got to feel, you know, those type of losses
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  Speaker 7: just a little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: You know where the level of play hath.
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  Speaker 7: Has to be moving forward, and we had I wouldn't
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  Speaker 7: say we're we're getting that one out of our out
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  Speaker 7: of the building too quick, but I mean most certainly
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  Speaker 7: by by Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: John, you let it linger a little bit, but no,
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  Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, so you turn the page as well. How
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  Speaker 2: much of it is going to be just the start
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  Speaker 2: of this week being like, yes, acknowledge it and move forward.
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  Speaker 5: What's over now? I mean, it's when they walk in
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  Speaker 5: the building today. It needs to be in the past.
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  Speaker 5: You let it motivates you. I think it's inside of
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  Speaker 5: you all week that you don't want to come out
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  Speaker 5: and play like that. You particularly don't want to come
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  Speaker 5: out and play like that in front of your fans.
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  Speaker 5: I think we forget sometimes because we see all the games,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and we're into it all the time. How
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  Speaker 5: important the home games are for fans who are touching
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  Speaker 5: this team and feeling a part of it. You're one
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  Speaker 5: and three at home. I sort of discounted it last week.
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  Speaker 5: You need to play well at home, and you need
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  Speaker 5: to be walking out EverBank Stadium on Sunday with a
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  Speaker 5: better feeling, and what happened needs to be the like
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  Speaker 5: if you're thinking about turning the iPad off at.
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  Speaker 6: Nine thirty or eight thirty, maybe you.
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  Speaker 5: Think back on what happened on Sunday and give another
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  Speaker 5: fifteen you know what I mean, and a little extra motivation.
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite quotes is from Sir Winston Churchill,
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  Speaker 4: who once was fond of saying facts are stubborn things, right,
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  Speaker 4: so you can turn the page, but you can't ignore
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  Speaker 4: the fact that you didn't stop the run, that you
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  Speaker 4: didn't run the ball very well. And it's important in
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  Speaker 4: this case because your opponent's gonna come in knowing exactly
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  Speaker 4: what the facts are about you. So you've got to
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  Speaker 4: carry those facts with you, not letting them, you know,
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  Speaker 4: beat you up, but at the same time not putting
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  Speaker 4: them down and saying, well, don't worry about those anymore.
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  Speaker 4: The fact is the fact they didn't They don't run
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  Speaker 4: the ball very well. We're gonna talk about that a
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  Speaker 4: little bit later. And they didn't stop the run very
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  Speaker 4: well on Sunday, and they didn't get good pressure, and
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  Speaker 4: they turn the ball over too much. If you take
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  Speaker 4: those things and you focus on them this week in
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  Speaker 4: the light of because the Titans are coming in, focusing
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  Speaker 4: on them, you'll be fine. You'll handle it the right way.
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  Speaker 6: The soccer reference to Sir Winston Churchill.
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  Speaker 4: British.
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  Speaker 3: For sure, we're not in London anymore. We're gonna move
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  Speaker 3: on from that one.
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  Speaker 2: But it did feel like they were kicking the can
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  Speaker 2: down the road with some of the issues and it
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  Speaker 2: did catch up a big time against this forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: Our second big thing this week is strong soup to
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the running game. Travis ETN
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  Speaker 2: has been amazing this season, but overall as a team,
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  Speaker 2: they haven't been running the ball very well and that
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  Speaker 2: really hurt them. John in that game against the San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco they can't get anything going well.
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  Speaker 5: I think Brian mentioned it in the quick thought that they
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  Speaker 5: wrote for this week. Travis et is a good running back.
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  Speaker 5: They're not a good running team right now.
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  Speaker 6: It's impressive that they have.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's eight rushing touchdowns, which is a good
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  Speaker 5: number and very indicative of a good team.
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  Speaker 6: They've stuck with it when it's been difficult.
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  Speaker 5: Travis has given them some touchdowns that maybe is a team.
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  Speaker 6: I don't say they didn't earn.
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  Speaker 5: It's not real, but the Travis DTN has given them
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  Speaker 5: some touchdowns that if he wasn't special, so maybe they
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  Speaker 5: don't have. I think they've got to stick with it.
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  Speaker 5: I think they've got to get a little better at it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't expect them to be the Eagles, who are
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  Speaker 5: a run centric team. But he's too good and they're
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  Speaker 5: too good when he's right to let him not be
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  Speaker 5: a part of it.
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  Speaker 6: Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 4: He look, Yeah, it does go back to that play
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  Speaker 4: in which Tank Bixby had the ball go off his hands.
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  Speaker 4: Joey Bosa, you know, forces Trevor out of the pocket,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it was a bad decision to throw
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  Speaker 4: the ball. But it's third in the yard, third in
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  Speaker 4: the yard on their side of the field, and you
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  Speaker 4: can't get a yard, well, you can't. We have the
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  Speaker 4: numbers the Jaguars. Look at these numbers, folks, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: on third down and one, two and three abysmal. You
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  Speaker 4: want to be over eighty percent on third down and one,
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  Speaker 4: and you ought to be somewhere much better than twenty
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  Speaker 4: five percent on third and two three out of five,
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  Speaker 4: sixty percent on third and three that number ought to
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  Speaker 4: be higher also, But third in one you're only eleven
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  Speaker 4: to seventeen on the year. That's got to change.
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  Speaker 3: Problems are people know that too?
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  Speaker 2: So you can tell by the way defenses are scheming
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  Speaker 2: up against them be.
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  Speaker 4: Able to confidence level, right, I don't know that there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of confidence, and not to harp on it,
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  Speaker 4: but we've talked about it John since the opener. That
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  Speaker 4: the interior of the offensive line, which has featured three
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  Speaker 4: different starting left guards, and they've obviously had an issue
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  Speaker 4: with Brandon Sherriff, who has struggled through an ankle injury.
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  Speaker 4: But the interior of that line doesn't give you confidence
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  Speaker 4: that they can gain it, which makes it really much
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  Speaker 4: easier for Mike Vrabel and the Titans to come in
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  Speaker 4: and put Jeffrey Simmons right over the center on Sunday
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  Speaker 4: and say you're not getting it today either.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The easy thing to say is a third and one,
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  Speaker 5: just run it twice, But they've had situations where they've
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  Speaker 5: done that has worked work.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it when you follow teams closely, there are a
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  Speaker 5: lot of situations where coaches historically as much today, but
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  Speaker 5: coaches historically say if we can't get a yard on
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  Speaker 5: third and one, we deserve to win. Well, you can't
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  Speaker 5: really just accept that. So I get why the Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: are trying different things, but it does go back to
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  Speaker 5: if you can't pick up third and one on two.
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  Speaker 6: Carries, you can't run the ball. Yeah, and you sort
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  Speaker 6: of say, hey, we you know, maybe we're not good enough.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't think they're ready.
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  Speaker 4: To accept that yet. One more thought on this, and
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  Speaker 4: that is is that Doug Peterson and John has alluded
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  Speaker 4: to this for more than a year. Doug Peterson is
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  Speaker 4: never going to come in here and be that thirty
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  Speaker 4: two carry coach. He's not going to call for the
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  Speaker 4: ball to be the the running game to be the
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  Speaker 4: dominant phase of his offense. It's not what he believes
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  Speaker 4: as a former quarterback and what an offense looks like
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  Speaker 4: in the modern era. But running the football is about
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  Speaker 4: getting the yard or four when you want to get
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  Speaker 4: that yard or four. And in the Jaguars history, they
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  Speaker 4: have generally been that team that could get what they
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  Speaker 4: wanted when they wanted to take those yards. Right now,
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  Speaker 4: they want it and they can't get it. That's what
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  Speaker 4: we have to watch over the last eight games of
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  Speaker 4: the season. Can they evolve into a team that says,
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  Speaker 4: we need to want to run the ball, We're gonna
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  Speaker 4: get it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think I want to clarify because Doug believes you
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  Speaker 5: have to run. What he doesn't believe from what in
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  Speaker 5: conversations I've had with him and been around that you
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  Speaker 5: if you're stacked eight in the box, I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to come out and run just to prove I have
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  Speaker 5: big muscles and I'm gonna I'm gonna establish the run.
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  Speaker 5: He's not that, but if the look is there, then
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  Speaker 5: he believes you need to be able to run against
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  Speaker 5: the look.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm probably not saying it exactly right. I think
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  Speaker 6: that's close. So I think that's where.
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  Speaker 5: The other day people were saying, well, why didn't he
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  Speaker 5: run the ball more early? Well, he's not gonna come
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  Speaker 5: out just to Okay, I'm going to be a big
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  Speaker 5: man and run the ball against this if if the
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  Speaker 5: look doesn't dictate that, it's going to works.
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  Speaker 6: Not going to be dumb about it.
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  Speaker 5: And that's an Andy Reid fossy. Sometimes when people talk
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: about the why is there passing game so horizontal, Well,
• 11:12
  Speaker 5: some of that is the horizontal passing game. Some of
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  Speaker 5: that that school believes that that's a big part of
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  Speaker 5: your running game. So that's a little bit of a
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  Speaker 5: philosophical difference. That's different from what it was in the
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  Speaker 5: eighties and late seventies.
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  Speaker 4: Where it was a home growd guy. Homegroom was a
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  Speaker 4: Bill Walsh guy. It's West Coast. It makes sense that
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  Speaker 4: was very successful for a long period time.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to our final big thing today and that's
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  Speaker 2: the Boy. As we look ahead to Sunday, the Titans
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  Speaker 2: are coming to town, there are always physical at least
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  Speaker 2: in our minds because of what Derrick Henry has been
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  Speaker 2: able to do over the last couple of seasons. But
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  Speaker 2: this team is a little bit different now that you.
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  Speaker 3: Know they've got to work at quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is getting towards the end of things, but
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  Speaker 2: he's still so dominant when.
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  Speaker 4: He's on Eddie George before that, I mean, the Titans
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  Speaker 4: just have this cave man mentality about running the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And well, they brought up on Ryan Tannehill a couple
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: of years ago, and he was not a success in Miami,
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  Speaker 4: but all of a sudden, he's got that big bulldozer
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  Speaker 4: behind him, sucks the safeties up to the line of
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  Speaker 4: scrimmage and he's going over the top. Henry might not
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  Speaker 4: be and I don't believe that he is obviously the
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  Speaker 4: same guy, but if you dare them, they'll put the
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  Speaker 4: ball in his hands twenty five times. And as we
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  Speaker 4: saw last year, he had some good numbers against the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars because it was you know, three three minus three
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  Speaker 4: then thirty three. Yeah, he can still do that. He's
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  Speaker 4: still dangerous. Here's my point on bully Ready. These guys
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  Speaker 4: have been the bully but they're about to start a
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  Speaker 4: transition to a completely different personnel group and style of play,
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  Speaker 4: and it feels like the Texans now are coming hard
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  Speaker 4: and fast, like we're here. The Jaguars are the best
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  Speaker 4: roster in this division. They are the big dog in
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  Speaker 4: the AFC South right now. They better be the bully
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  Speaker 4: on Sunday and next Sunday as well. They better send
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  Speaker 4: the message that the South is ours. It was your,
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: it ain't yours again, It's ours. And the only way
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  Speaker 4: you do that is to beat people up on the
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  Speaker 4: line of scrimage. That's how you get it done.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, especially for the Jaguars defense, this is
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  Speaker 5: an important game and it's a game they should on
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  Speaker 5: pay per matchup. Well against San Francisco obviously very.
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  Speaker 6: Good running the ball.
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  Speaker 5: One hundred and forty four yards is Jaguars allowed, which
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  Speaker 5: was season high. There's been a lot bigger season highs
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  Speaker 5: around here before.
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  Speaker 4: Well a lot of that was when the game had
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: been already been rigged.
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  Speaker 6: The Titans.
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  Speaker 5: So far this season, this Titans offensive line is not
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  Speaker 5: your father's Titans offensive linelers. So at Jaguars defense that
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  Speaker 5: I still believe is very good stopping the run should
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  Speaker 5: match up against this, and Dereck Henry is still very capable.
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  Speaker 5: What he's not been able to do this year. They
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  Speaker 5: haven't been able to stick with it for long enough
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  Speaker 5: where he can just wear you down and get into
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter and be big man Derrick Henry. So
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  Speaker 5: if they can stop that, stop them early, get a lead,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think it'll be a factor, but he's clearly
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: good enough still. I think you'll have three or four
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  Speaker 5: great games this year, Derek Henry. Let's not have Sunday
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  Speaker 5: be one up, all.
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  Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about Texans.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get more into Titans as the week goes on,
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  Speaker 2: but we kind of want to look around the league
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  Speaker 2: as well, because there's a couple of things that are
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: pretty relevant to us, or at least former players on
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: this team as well, one of them being Riley Patterson,
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  Speaker 2: who kicked a game winning field goal again against the Chargers.
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  Speaker 3: And then also Jomichael ha.
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  Speaker 2: Used to get dropped by the team earlier this week
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  Speaker 2: and then claimed by the Patriots off waivers. And then
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: we look at the Bills because I mean, it's always
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: nice to look at other situations that are going worse
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  Speaker 2: than your own situation make you feel a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better about it. Because they lost the Broncos in frustrating fashion.
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  Speaker 2: They fire their offensive coordinator and they're doing all the changes.
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  Speaker 5: Which filey coach Brian.
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  Speaker 6: It's panic load fire the coach.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have.
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  Speaker 3: An interesting solution to their problems. I doubt it will be.
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  Speaker 4: But just to bring this up real quick, did you
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  Speaker 4: see that the Bill's logo was painted on the Broncos
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: practice field last week? I thought that was an interesting
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: motivational tactic by Sean Payton.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: For his team.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Here's the relevance. Josh Allen has eleven interceptions to lead
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: the league when.
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: They's coaches fault.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Which coaches fault? When they came to London, that team
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: was on a three game winning streak. They had averaged
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: forty two points in the three wins and allowed only
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: ten and nothing seems to be working for them. And truthfully,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: as bad a game as Trevor Lawrence said he played right,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: he called it his worst game in the post game
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: on Sunday. No one's paying any attention because Josh Allen
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: and the Bills We're supposed to be a contender in
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: the AFC and right now, Josh Allen, it looks like
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: he has fallen off a cliff. Do I think he
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: can get it back. Yeah, he's a big talented guy.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Willie stay tuned.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: It's always been.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: The moo with Josh is you're concerned about the interceptions
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: and sometimes being a little loose with you know, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: don't cover him, but the reception is he's loose with
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: the ball going for the big plays. I just get
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: tired of the turn key solution always being fire the coach,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: fire the coach. I don't think the coaches is throwing
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: the eleven interceptions, but that's the eleven.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: No and John McDermott said he had to do something.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen it around here and coaches get it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I'm not twenty eighteen where Doug Maroon fired his friend
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett, right, and Hackett went to Green Bay and succeeded.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: So it isn't fire the coach. Ken Dorsey wasn't the problem.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think play calling was the issue. You have
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: a quarterback who you know, he's so big, and he
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: thinks he can do anything right, even squeezed the ball
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: into windows. It shouldn't be squeezed into so and for
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: what it's worth, Trayvon Diggs didn't blame Ken Dorsey. He
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: blamed Josh Allen.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Let's all point the fingers at each other because that's
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: what's going on.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: That was his brother.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I did like the Riley Patterson game winning field long
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: goal for him, if only because I know and it
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: kind of came out of the blue. Obviously, you got
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: to pick up Brandon McManus if he's available, but Patterson
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: kind of getting cut out of the Blue and training
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: camp and then finding a new home in Detroit.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And also it's at the expense of the.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Chargers, So that's always interesting when that comes down to it,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: but I mean he seems to have their number, so
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I was happy to see that for him for sure.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a nice kid. And there were some
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: people who asked me what was the matter with Riley Patterson.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: But if you go back and watch his field goal
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: attempt the game winner against the Chargers here, I mean,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: it just barely slid in and you don't see anything,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: just barely. With McManus, he's gonna kick indoors most of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: the time and he's a good kicker. Good for him.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Look, this is.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Half the kickers in the league have this career path
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: where it's three or four teams.
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: Early. Look, Jason Myers, maybe one of the best kickers
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: in the league, was.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Here and was the object of ridicule from fans a
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: lot because he missed a couple of field goals.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: And early in his career did struggle at times. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: probably should have been cut.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Now deserves the accolades as being one of the best
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: clutch kickers in the game.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: So it's the path. I'm not sure.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know if McManus was with the Broncos from
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: the very star. I think he opter most of them
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: hop around. It's a tough business. To start in until
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: you get trusted from your team.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I was standing on the sideline as he was lining
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: up Patterson the game winner against the Chargers last January,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, my goodness, the pressure that he
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: is on him right now. What must he be thinking?
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Better make this kid?
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's pretty obvious, but I just as he's lining
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: up and the whole stadium is holding its breath and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: it's all on him and his leg. It was It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: a tough job. People don't think of it that way,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: but it is a tough job.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You have to have a certain personality for it, the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: same as they say about goalies and hockey, right, you
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: have to be you have to be ready. You're going
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: to lose games, absolutely, and you're gonna have to deal
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: with it and take the brunt of that from everyone.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Our final one is kind of just the mix up
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: with the running back room a little bit to Michael
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Hasty was waved from the team and actually claimed by
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: three teams on Waiver's gonna end up with the Patriots.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: That opens things up here a little bit. We saw
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of Diners Johnson than we've seen
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in the past game, and he had some success out there.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But Tank is just that trouble spot and it's not
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: his fault. I didn't feel like that pick that went
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: off of his hands, but it's like, what.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Do you do with it?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You know, you need to keep using him, but it's
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it's getting to a weird point now.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think John has said it a
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: couple of times. You know, when the game is on
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: the line, you're probably not going to put him in.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: You're gonna give the ball to Travis. But you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: bookmark this moment. You know today, when I say it,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: a year from now, people will be like, Wow, this
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: kid is a really good football player and they're going
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: to need him. And you can't. You can't screw with
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: his confidence. You just gotta keep giving him the ball
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and let him have success. And it will help John
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: if the interior of the offensive line, has dug alluded
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: to on Monday in his press conference, gets better with
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: more time together and continuity Walker and Fortner and Sheriff
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: playing together, and then you can put him in there
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: and let him gain four yards, four yards, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: fourteen yards and start to build something. He hasn't had
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: that chance yet yet.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: I think Tank's gonna be good. I don't know when
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: it's gonna happen, because I think he's gonna need a
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: stretch where he gets ten carries. Yeah, I don't know
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: if the way it's set up with Travis playing so well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: if it's gonna be realistic to give him time to
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: get into the flow. Think about Travis this year. If
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: he was only getting three carries a game, how good
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: would he be because he has needed those moments where Okay,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I hit the hole and I get seventeen. So I
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: think at some point we're gonna be talking to Tank Bigs,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: be at his locker, and everyboy's gonna be realizing that, hey,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: this kid's good. I think it will be tough for
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: him to reach that in this circumstance, maybe a little
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: through no fault of his own.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: We just got done talking about kickers and how kickers
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: need time. They're either going to make some misses. They
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: may need to go to two or three teams. Running backs,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: young running backs due to young players need that time.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: He needs the time on task. They just need to
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: find it a window where maybe in the second half
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: in some game this year they have a lead and
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: go Tank, it's your time. You know, here's ten carries Go.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Does have a good sounding warn traves etn as well,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: who had issues earlier in his career last year and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: has moved forward with that. So I think that definitely
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: is helping Tank because your confidence can be an issue
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: at this point as well with some of the issues
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that he's had.
• 21:55
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  Speaker 3: Brian, what's dor this.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: For that one?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Well, I alluded to it early, and that is the
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: offensive line of the defensive line. Neither one of them
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: played very well against the Niners. And the reason that
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: we pointed out is because the Niners are good on
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: both lines, right, So there's a little bit of margin
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: for error there that it was going to be tough
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: for both sides. But you know, heading into Sunday's game
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: against the Titans, what gives you more concern the Jaguars
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: offensive line against Jeffrey Simmons or the Jaguars defensive line
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: against Derrick Henry.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Thanks an easy too. I think.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I think the offensive line. This Jaguars defensive line, to me,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: has had one or two games, but for the most part,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: has been I think you could argue that and Travis Ey,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: tanneb and the strength of the team. I think they'll
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: bounce back. I think the offensive line, I expect Walker
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: little to start again. I think they're going to give
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: that group time to get cohesion. History so far this
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: year has shown they bounce back pretty well, so I
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: think they will, but I.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Think they need to.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: If they don't bounce back, then I will be very
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: angsty if the defensive line doesn't bounce back, because, as
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: John mentioned, is the strong pseudo the team. The O
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: line is where the question marks are. That was the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: first game we've seen the full starting cast of what
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: they wanted for their offensive line, so you could argue
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that was the first game, but it was a pretty
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: not great first game.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if full appreciation of how good
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons is. I know Chris Jones just thought of
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: as the best defensive tackle in football right now. This
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: guy's not far from him. He was very good in
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: both games last year against this team, and he was
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: playing on a bum angle. It's healthy this year. Watch out.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I went with this is a crisis or a setback,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: and yeah, I don't know. I mean, and I don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: think it's a crisis. I mean, I'm sorry, crisis or
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: bounce back? One off. I think it's a one off.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: I don't think that we will see the emails, Brian.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: It's like they've lost five.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: Games in a row and have never played football before.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: This is still a team that's won eleven of fourteen games.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: It won five straight games going into this last game.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I still think the same things that enabled them to
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: beat good teams, not great teams, but they beat good
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: teams this year. I think those teams. I think those
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: things are there, and I think that will be enough.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: Eight games left.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I think that's enough to win five or six of
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: those last eight games, which gets you to what eleven
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: or twelve wins. That's you know, better than not covered
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: a bunch of twelve games. Teven seasons, right, I lost
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: seasons too, So they still have a chance to be really,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: really good. So I think it's a one off.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's a one off, but we're gonna find out,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: because you have they've not played well against the better
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: teams at home, right Kansas City and let's not forget Houston,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: but Kansas City and San Francisco in particular. You've got
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Ravens coming up in a maounter
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: of weeks here in prime time at home. We're gonna
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: find out whether it's a home curse or whatever you
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: want to call it. But it feels like a one
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: off because we've seen this team play well. We've seen
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: them overcome the adversity of five different games in five
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: different stadiums, in six different time zones, all that stuff
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: across six different time zone. So I think it's a
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: one off. We luckily are going to have the opportunity
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to find out for sure over the next couple of weeks.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's a one off. Two I'm hoping so.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But I think some of the issues that are repetitive
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: that haven't been addressed, or the problems that I'm having
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: offensive line not getting the passing game going, those are
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: issues that have not progressed at this point, so that
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is something that I'm going to keep an eye on
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: because I definitely think they can beat Titans. But if
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: they're doing it in a way where they did on
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: their five game win streak, have they really gotten any
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: better or are they just kind of maintaining status quo?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So my this or that this week is a little
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: bit about that. Do you stand pat and try to
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: keep going it's a week eleven they've been trying to
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: do that, or do you mix things up? When Ezra
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Cleveland is ready to put him into the lineup on
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: offensive line, we know he plays a good left guard.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Walker Little we haven't seen him there a ton. People
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: do find that he can play different positions, But do
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: you put him in there and kind of use Walker
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: as the swing tackle at that point?
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Well, that would be the only thing you could really
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: change up on the roster right because you're dealing with
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: so many injuries in the defensive backfield, there's not a
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: lot you can do there. I don't know. I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I would tend to stand pat. You've got a lot
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: of money in Brandon Sheriff. He is no longer the
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: five time Pro Bowl guy, but he's still a pretty good player,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: and Walker Little hasn't played a whole lot of left guard.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I go back to a guy who I kept hammering at,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: and that was Luke Fordtner, and the coach defended him,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: saying he needs better guard play, better guard play, consistent
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: guard play. I don't think you changed that up yet.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I'm part of the issue with the offensive line has
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: been they haven't played together yet.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: So do you move.
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: Walker Little output as Cleveland in after one and then
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: what happens if he doesn't play well?
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Then you move it back?
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: So I think this is probably the week to try
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: to get some continuity.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: And hope that Walker Little they believe it's a good play.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's funny until Sunday, Walker Lio was best
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman on this team, remember, Yeah, So let's give
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: that a chance, not panic, and see if some continuity
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: there and not playing against a great I'm not saying
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Jefy Simmons didn't good, but I don't think you would
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: think that the Titans defensive line is as monstrous right
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: now as the forty nine ers.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: So let's see how they can do against.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: And again get their feet wet a little bit before
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: you make another change.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: I would think that's.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: How they go.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I think part of it too is getting Trevor to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: believe he's feeling protected as well, because you can tell
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: by the ways moving his feet out there, he doesn't
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: feel safe in the pocket. So that's obviously affecting a
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: lot of what the offense has been able to do
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: or not been able to do for I don't feel safe.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It's not safe here. That's definitely something that they're gonna
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: have to work on. I'll bond together, feel a little
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: safe together, say well, let's we'll talk about what we
• 28:26
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  Speaker 4: I hate losing.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like no one loves to lose. And I
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: feel like we don't come here and work our butts
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: off every day to go out there and put performance
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: out there like that. And I feel like it's unfair
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: to our fans to even go out there and do that,
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: so we definitely got to all let a simmer and just
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: kind of uses us field to prepare us throughout the
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: rest of the season.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Travis talking, it's unfair the fans had to watch that.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: That's probably true someday that they had to watch that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: at home. They always seemed to get up for the Titans, though,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: so I expect a much better matchup.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's strange because the Titans, for guys like John
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and I who were here, you know, when they were
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: the Oilers in the early days and Jeff Fisher was
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: mouthing off, it became a bit of a natural rivalry
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: and then it kind of flowed away, and it's been
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: a long time since the rivalry was is heated, especially
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: with the Jags winning both those games last year. But
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: it's funny think Doug has has been a nice job
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: of reminding these players of the history of the franchise,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: and well, it's easy to get up when they have
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: some good players who can embarrass it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jaguars weren't very good for long time, so rivalries
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: tend to faith, so they're back. Trevor had the look
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: at the scoreboard moment last year in the stiff arm
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: that's always fine.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I think rivalries where they talk a little bit and
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: they clearly want to beat the other guy and they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: thinking about the other team.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: That's what it's all about. Supposed to be fun.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Steelers can't be your rival because they're not on the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: schedule every year, and though Kansas City has been the
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: last couple of years, they're not on it every year either.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: The Titans, the Colts, and the Texans. You've got to
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: carve rivalries from them so that you fill your stadium
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: and people get up for the games. And it's nice
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: to see some of that coming back.
• 30:34
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• 30:37
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• 30:37
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• 30:40
  Speaker 2: right here on Jagsam.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: We'll see you then,