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Missed Mother’s Day Call is first sign daughter’s gone · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: A mother of three from Kensington vanished two years ago
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  Speaker 1: and she hasn't been seen since then, more than three
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  Speaker 1: years since a mother of three has been heard from then.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents are desperate for your help. Susan prim Vera
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  Speaker 1: hasn't heard from her daughter Jill in over four years.
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  Speaker 1: This is crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The then twenty
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  Speaker 1: year old was last seen on Thursday, April twelve, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand twelve. I just want to tell her to come
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  Speaker 1: just calling. Our whole family just wants her to come home.
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  Speaker 1: Always called, She's never felt she couldn't call. Privera has
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  Speaker 1: three daughters and her family says they miss her. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they're getting old enough now they do know, you
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  Speaker 1: know that they do have a mom and they do
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  Speaker 1: know their mom is missing. As soon as the first
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  Speaker 1: mother's they passed and we didn't hear from her. Seems
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  Speaker 1: suspicious to us. If anybody has seen her, just reach
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  Speaker 1: out and tell us, and then just please let us know.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine your daughter, m that you love more than anything
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  Speaker 1: in the world, that you pour all your love into,
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  Speaker 1: all your dreams, into all your hopes into try to
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  Speaker 1: make a better life for her, and you want all
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  Speaker 1: of her dreams to come true and then she goes missing.
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  Speaker 1: I am talking about a beautiful young girl, Jill prima Vera,
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  Speaker 1: her mom and dad. Our special guest today on Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace, and I want to thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being with us. Today's story is so important because I
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  Speaker 1: really believe there is a chance we can find the
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  Speaker 1: truth about the disappearance of Jill prima Vera. Along with
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  Speaker 1: me the Duke, Alan Duke of course joining me, Alan,
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  Speaker 1: How long has Jill Primavera been missing? Give me her description.
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  Speaker 1: She has three children waiting for mommy to come home.
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  Speaker 1: Joe was twenty eight years old when she was last seen.
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  Speaker 1: She was last seen reported on April twelve, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and twelve, in Philadelphia, the intersection of A Street and
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  Speaker 1: East Allegheny Avenue. Well wait a minute, that's very very
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  Speaker 1: specific as too, so there is a witness they can
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  Speaker 1: place her right there on a certain day. Okay, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to break in. Go ahead with that
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  Speaker 1: description out the mother of three daughters. She is a
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  Speaker 1: white female five ft five inches tall and wade about
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  Speaker 1: one and forty pounds at the time and at the
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  Speaker 1: time of her disappearance. She had blonde hair with red highlights.
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  Speaker 1: So what are their ages now? They are five eight
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  Speaker 1: and ten? Five eight and ten. That's about the ages
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  Speaker 1: of the twins who are nine and boy do they
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  Speaker 1: need mommy? Bob? Do you guys tell the children about
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  Speaker 1: is mommy coming home? Do they ask about her? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They ask it better, and you know we didn't. We
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  Speaker 1: didn't tell them the details, but we tell them that
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  Speaker 1: we're still looking. We won't give up. Where do they
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  Speaker 1: think mommy is? Do they have an idea? Do they
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  Speaker 1: get sad? Or have they pushed it to the back
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  Speaker 1: of their minds and don't talk about it now? The
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  Speaker 1: older they've gotten, they do, especially the oldest. The ten
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  Speaker 1: year old asked frequently. Um. I mean every night they
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  Speaker 1: say a prayer for their mom um, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and pray that she comes home. And you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just heartbreaking, um, you know. And like I said, they're
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  Speaker 1: just too young, so we don't give them details, um,
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  Speaker 1: but they are aware that we cannot find their mom.
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  Speaker 1: So when the ten year old at night asked questions
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  Speaker 1: about mommy, what kind of questions does she ask? Where
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  Speaker 1: is my mommy? Why? Why can't they find my Mommy,
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  Speaker 1: Why isn't God helping us? You know what? That just
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  Speaker 1: that just breaks my heart because you know, when I'm
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  Speaker 1: away for even one night, it nearly drives me crazy
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  Speaker 1: wondering how they're doing, what are they doing? Let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this to what has been the most difficult
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  Speaker 1: part of being away from Jill. I can't tell you
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  Speaker 1: that there's not a day that goes by that I
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  Speaker 1: don't think about her. I wonder where she is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: my life honestly has changed since all this has happened.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it, and and that I really even feel
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  Speaker 1: like that that I can't function properly. I mean, they're
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  Speaker 1: it's it's always on my mind. I'm always thinking what
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  Speaker 1: I can do next to try to help find her
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  Speaker 1: because we're not getting enough support from law enforcement. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just we're always trying to think of
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  Speaker 1: the next step, What can we do, what can we
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  Speaker 1: could do next to try to help find her? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as a mother, I'm I'm talking to the mom and
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  Speaker 1: dad a jil Frema Vera who is missing to a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful young mom of three. I'm sorry, Sue, what were
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  Speaker 1: you saying as a mom? I know you understand because
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  Speaker 1: you're a mother that you I mean, imagine that your
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  Speaker 1: kid is missing. I mean, and you know, the police
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  Speaker 1: just hope I just go away. And I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to go away, and I'm going to continue to fight
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  Speaker 1: until I get an answer. You know, Alan, The other night,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I told you about this. I
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  Speaker 1: had the worst dream. It woke me up and in
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  Speaker 1: the dream I was bent over double crying, and the
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  Speaker 1: feeling and my stomach and my chest. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what was wrong. And then in the dream I found
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  Speaker 1: out the twins were missing. I couldn't find the twins
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  Speaker 1: and I have that and this is after the murder
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  Speaker 1: of my fiancee. This is having just lost my father.
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  Speaker 1: In that dream, that feeling of not knowing where the
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  Speaker 1: twins were, it was one of the worst feelings. And
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  Speaker 1: I just woke up and went immediately and looked at them.
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  Speaker 1: They were asleep, and it was and that was just,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thirty seconds of a dream. And Bob and
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  Speaker 1: Sue go through this every single day of their lives. Bob,
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  Speaker 1: tell me what has been the worst part about not
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  Speaker 1: knowing where Jill is. Well, I kind of feel like
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  Speaker 1: a failed you know, your father I'm supposed to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: protect her, and that gets me every day. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if I could have been there, if I could have
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  Speaker 1: if I could find out or you know, it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I hold a lot of this in and it's tough
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  Speaker 1: dealing with it, you know what I mean. It has
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  Speaker 1: changed me also, uh, anxious, anxiety, you know, quick to
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  Speaker 1: jump down somebody's throat, you know, like just get right
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  Speaker 1: in there, because I'm I'm holding all this holding all
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  Speaker 1: this anger in because of the people that we think
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  Speaker 1: may have something to do with it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the police aren't questioning the people that you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we tell them that we think they should question, and
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  Speaker 1: they agree with us at the time, but never never
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  Speaker 1: go out and actually question these people. And you know
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  Speaker 1: what police force is it exactly police force. Well responsible
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  Speaker 1: for the cases, the Philadelphia Police Department. But we have spoken,
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  Speaker 1: you know, We've called I've called the our congressman, we
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  Speaker 1: had Corey Booker called Philadelphia and then there was some
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  Speaker 1: action for a while. But the marshals are involved, the
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  Speaker 1: FBI is involved, and we have meeting, you know, periodic
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  Speaker 1: meetings with these people, you know, maybe once a year
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  Speaker 1: or something. And everybody's going to do something, you leave
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  Speaker 1: the office, you don't hear from him again. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my wife continually tries to, you know, keep it going
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  Speaker 1: and calling them and keep it in their mind, but
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  Speaker 1: it's you know. So it is the Philadelphia police that
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  Speaker 1: are the main entity working in the case of Jill
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  Speaker 1: approve of EA. Okay, so you have told them suspects
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  Speaker 1: that you think may be involved. Won't let me just
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  Speaker 1: say persons of interest. You know you were saying, Bob
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  Speaker 1: that you have to hold it in. There's so much
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  Speaker 1: that you hold in. Of course you do because you
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  Speaker 1: have her children, her three girls, living with you now,
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  Speaker 1: and you've got to be strong for them, and they're
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  Speaker 1: watching everything you say, everything you do. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: you look defeated or worn out or exhausted with the
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  Speaker 1: search for jail, then they'll know that immediately. Then they'll
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  Speaker 1: give up hope, and then that will be awful for them.
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  Speaker 1: So you two have a huge burden on you, huge
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  Speaker 1: burden on you. So let me ask you this. When
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  Speaker 1: you think of the last time, Bob, that you spoke
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  Speaker 1: to her, what do you recall about that conversation. Well,
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  Speaker 1: my wife was the last one it spoke to her.
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  Speaker 1: The last time I spoke to her, I was angry
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  Speaker 1: with her because of you know her, you know her
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  Speaker 1: straightening up her act and getting back you know, with
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  Speaker 1: her children. So so I kind of feel her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I feel guilty because I was angry with her now
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  Speaker 1: and that's you know what. I gotta tell you something, Bob,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something. I've replayed this over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over in my mind. When my dad passed away,
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to take the children ice skating at
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  Speaker 1: Rockefeller Center, and before I got on the plane, I
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  Speaker 1: almost backed out. And I'd gone back and forth, were
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  Speaker 1: we going to go out of town or not? Because
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  Speaker 1: he was having trouble breathing, and my mom said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine, don't worry. I went and I
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  Speaker 1: got to New York. I got everybody unpacked, ready to
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  Speaker 1: go sking and my mom called and said, putting your
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  Speaker 1: dad on life support. Well, I got everybody repacked, ran
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  Speaker 1: out onto the streets of New York to Hellicap to
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  Speaker 1: try to get a plane back home. We got home,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if my dad ever knew I
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  Speaker 1: was there. I stood by his bed for seventy two
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  Speaker 1: hours until he passed away, and I beat myself up
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  Speaker 1: about that every day since he went to heaven. And
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  Speaker 1: you know what, it's you were doing the right thing, Bob.
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  Speaker 1: You were trying to guide her. Parents get angry with
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  Speaker 1: their children when they see them making mistake. That is
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  Speaker 1: not your fault. You have got to not beat yourself
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  Speaker 1: up about that. You were trying to help her. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that God knows that, and she knew that
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  Speaker 1: at the time that you were trying to help her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about go ahead, we went
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  Speaker 1: to counseling with her, you know, we we felt it
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  Speaker 1: like we've done everything we could, so I had it
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  Speaker 1: just go with the hard love that that I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I forget to where I'm not even take it straight
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  Speaker 1: right now. Tough love, tough love, tough love, because like
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  Speaker 1: like I was saying, I felt we both felt like
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  Speaker 1: we were being played by her, you know, going to
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  Speaker 1: the counseling and all that, and and it wasn't working.
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  Speaker 1: So I took another path with alcohol or drugs. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, Alan, what are the stats. At least if
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  Speaker 1: two percent of the country, our country have either had
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  Speaker 1: an alcohol problem or a drug problem, or somebody in
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  Speaker 1: their family or close friend has had an alcohol or
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  Speaker 1: drug problem, probably greater. So what you're saying right now,
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  Speaker 1: nobody is judging Jill. Nobody is judging you because we've
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  Speaker 1: all been there. I have somebody in my family with
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  Speaker 1: an alcohol problem, and they had it forever. We all do.
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  Speaker 1: I have people in my family, relatives with drug problems.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has it. Let me tell you. When I was
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  Speaker 1: a prosecutor in inner city Atlanta, people would lose everything,
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  Speaker 1: their families, their jobs, their homes because of drugs and alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: It's not it's not just Jill. What what do you
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  Speaker 1: have to say to people? Well, the only people that
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  Speaker 1: I talked to about is family, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: And no one else says, I guess because they don't
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  Speaker 1: feel comfortable asking, and I don't bring it up to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Well I feel comfortable because I'm telling you, a large
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  Speaker 1: part of America suffers with drug and alcohol problems, and
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  Speaker 1: it is nothing to be ashamed of at all, because
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  Speaker 1: from what I've seen it, it is a sickness. It
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  Speaker 1: is an illness you can't you can't get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: It literally is like a monkey on your back. And
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  Speaker 1: Jill was fighting it and you and your wife. We're
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  Speaker 1: fighting it with her. You've just been through so much.
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  Speaker 1: If I could just find a way to help you
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  Speaker 1: find her. When the police tell you, when you go
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  Speaker 1: and you speak to them, what do they say? Well
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  Speaker 1: that the last one, like I said, it was like
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  Speaker 1: they there's no bedside matter. I mean there's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't you don't really want it like that anyway,
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  Speaker 1: But to tell you nothing yet, like we said, we
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  Speaker 1: gave the cop who supposed to be on it now
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  Speaker 1: some information and she says, you know, there's a serial
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  Speaker 1: killer out there. I mean, I'm just like, what the
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  Speaker 1: hell kind of ship is that to tell us? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: My stars? So he says there's a serial killer out there,
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  Speaker 1: and that's well, I mean, I guess he's got to
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  Speaker 1: tell you the truth. But dang, oh that must have
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  Speaker 1: been like a kid. Yeah, yeah, like don't you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't go out and investigate and go out and look.
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  Speaker 1: Because we got a call that someone had they think
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  Speaker 1: they had seen her too. Three days ago. We called
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  Speaker 1: up the detective and told her and she said she
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  Speaker 1: was going to go out and look at it. And
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  Speaker 1: we haven't heard nothing from her. And that's that's she said,
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  Speaker 1: she was going to go out yesterday morning. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard nothing. So this is kind of what we you know,
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  Speaker 1: we sit here and we wait and we wait, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, our nerves are you know, and nothing. And
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  Speaker 1: then we got to call somebody else and we got it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to to try and get somebody else on it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just the way it's been for us. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: promises us everything and no one delivers on nothing. We
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  Speaker 1: go down personally to the bad lands. This is a bad,
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  Speaker 1: real bad part of Philly, and we put flyers up,
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  Speaker 1: we you know, put bill boards up. We had two
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  Speaker 1: billboards put up, one on one down in Kensington. We
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  Speaker 1: you know, we've put it on the local news through
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  Speaker 1: Citizens Crime Commission, I mean, basically the people who have
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  Speaker 1: helped us through this. It's like the FBI and the
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  Speaker 1: marshals and whatnot only helped us be because we couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get the help, but of the police department, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and so what we've come to find out is it
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  Speaker 1: is their jurisdiction and they just still refused to help us.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we just wrote to the mayor last week
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  Speaker 1: and and the commissioner and we're waiting to hear back
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  Speaker 1: it's just frustrating. I mean, this has been since two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and twelve and and we're just constantly being told
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  Speaker 1: that something will be done and nothing's done. The reason
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  Speaker 1: also is she's never not going Mother's Day or my
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  Speaker 1: wife's birthday without calling, you know, And that's what set
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  Speaker 1: us off. She didn't call. That's when we contacted the
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  Speaker 1: police and started this thing rolling back in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and twelve, we knew something, something was probably wrong. Because
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  Speaker 1: of that, we are talking about a beautiful, missing, young
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  Speaker 1: mom of three, Jill Cramavera. When she did not contact
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  Speaker 1: her mom on Mother's Day, Mom and dad knew something
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  Speaker 1: was horribly wrong. This girl has three beautiful daughters waiting
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  Speaker 1: on her to come home, and they ask their old
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  Speaker 1: enough now to ask questions, where's mommy? Why won't mommy
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  Speaker 1: come home? Why won't God help me find mommy? It's
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  Speaker 1: really almost more than I can even say, Alan, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: why won't God help bring my mommy home? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's got to break their heart every night when they
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  Speaker 1: hear that from the ten year old guys. There is
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  Speaker 1: a five thousand dollar reward for information on the whereabouts
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  Speaker 1: of Jill pre Bavera. Last seed in Philadelphia. The tip
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  Speaker 1: wine to five four six tips two one five five
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  Speaker 1: four six eight four seven seven. Please help us find
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  Speaker 1: out the whereabouts of this beautiful girl, this loving mom,
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  Speaker 1: Jill prima Vera, Please help us help Bob Ensue bring
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  Speaker 1: their daughter home. And see. I hear you, I hear
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  Speaker 1: you crying, and I want you to know that as
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  Speaker 1: I am given this tipline, my mom and I are
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  Speaker 1: sitting here crying right along with you because I hear
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  Speaker 1: how much you're suffering, and I just hate it for you,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to do whatever we it Crime Online
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  Speaker 1: and Crime Stories can do to help you. And we
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  Speaker 1: will will continue to broadcast this and publicize this and
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  Speaker 1: do every single thing I can think of to help
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  Speaker 1: you find peace. Our prayers now with Bob and Sue
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  Speaker 1: and Jill are most important with those three little girls
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  Speaker 1: that are waiting for their mom to come home. Nancy
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  Speaker 1: Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend