Latest / DarkHorse Podcast / Everyday Treason: The 336th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying
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- 0:04Hey folks, yeah, you welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast live stream number.
- 0:09Is it going to be three three six, three three six.
- 0:13SI'm Dr.
- 0:15Bret Weinstein.
- 0:16You were Dr.
- 0:17Heather Heying for those who have been sitting on the edge of their seat for news of Toby after his motorcycle accident, uh, that we discussed last time.
- 0:26Toby is on the mend going to be fine.
- 0:30Seems like he does not need surgery on his foot.
- 0:34Still a possibility, but in any case, um, the boy is nothing if not impressive.
- 0:40Not only is he physically bouncing back at an amazing rate, but he is, um, emotionally as well or better than you could possibly imagine.
- 0:51He's, he's quite a guy.
- 0:52Yeah.
- 0:53So, so remarkable.
- 0:56And we are so grateful.
- 0:57Um, and thank you for all of the well wishes that we received across many, uh, many different avenues.
- 1:04Um, it was, it was hard of course.
- 1:07Uh, and, uh, we are just full of gratitude for, for all that has gone right here.
- 1:15Yes.
- 1:16It's, uh, it's, I've started thinking of it, not as a terrible motorcycle accident, which it was, but it's an excellent motorcycle accident because of how well it turned out relative to what might've been so, so there it is.
- 1:29It's, um, quite a relief and, uh, I definitely puts things in into stark.
- 1:36I already said relief.
- 1:37I can't say stark relief.
- 1:38It puts things into, yes, stark perspective.
- 1:41Yes.
- 1:43This, this is what matters.
- 1:45Right.
- 1:46Um, today we're going to talk about some other things that matter in light of the hearings, uh, in the, uh, Senate this morning, the, um, what was it?
- 1:57It's Homeland Security and Government and Regulations, I think is the name of the committee, uh, in which, uh, Fauci was, you know, he was supposed to be testifying, I guess, but, uh, that's not exactly what happened.
- 2:10No, oddly not.
- 2:11Yeah.
- 2:12Oddly not.
- 2:12Yeah.
- 2:13So we are, we're going to, um, after we, after we pay the rent, um, by reading you ads from three of our amazing sponsors here.
- 2:20We're going to start by, um, reminding our audience of some of where we have been, not we personally, but we as a country, uh, in which I'm going to share some excerpts from the COVID area stories that I've been publishing on natural selections, uh, for much of this year, and then we're going to talk about, uh, what happened in the Senate today and, uh, some of what we think it means.
- 2:41So that's, that's what's coming today.
- 2:43Uh, so without further ado, let's, let's go to the ads.
- 2:45Yeah, let's do that.
- 2:46Let's do that.
- 2:47All right.
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- 4:43They do not make protein powers.
- 4:44They make protein powders, but perhaps Toby who uses their protein powders.
- 4:49Maybe he feels like it gives him some protein powers.
- 4:51That's, that's, I'm not quoting him though.
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- 4:55Yeah.
- 4:56Yeah.
- 4:56Yeah.
- 4:56No, he hasn't said it, which is, he hasn't said it.
- 4:58Not to put it on.
- 4:59I wouldn't, I wouldn't, uh, misattribute a quote to him.
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- 6:25I don't know, but both things are true.
- 6:27It's not hurting him.
- 6:28And, uh, yeah, although his youth also, I remember healing my grass and man, it's incredible to watch.
- 6:33You can almost hear it.
- 6:35It's true.
- 6:37All right.
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- 7:53Would imagine actually that somebody should run that experiment.
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- 10:09All right.
- 10:12Flying by the seat of our pants, the way men do, you know what that means?
- 10:18No, do you tell?
- 10:19Okay.
- 10:20So in the old days, like imagine the early days of aviation, right?
- 10:24Okay.
- 10:25You're flying.
- 10:26Oh, you actually know the story.
- 10:27Yeah.
- 10:27You're not about to completely bullshit.
- 10:29No, there's a lot of stuff like, you know, because men also do that.
- 10:32Balls to the walls.
- 10:34You know what that means?
- 10:35I thought you've told that's the throttle all the way forward.
- 10:37The balls on the throttle.
- 10:38Right.
- 10:39So, you know, it's a family show balls to the walls.
- 10:42Yeah.
- 10:42Um, balls or wall.
- 10:43Isn't it balls to the wall?
- 10:46It's balls to the wall.
- 10:47You know, it may be that I'm remembering there was a ski run at mammoth when I was a kid called balls to the walls that I do not think young men plastering themselves.
- 10:57Yes.
- 10:58I do not think that was a reference to aviation, but flying by the seat of your pants, you fly by the seat of your pants.
- 11:05When the tug of the airplane, the seat pulling under you as you turn this way, you're, uh, you feel the plane pulling you that that's giving you feedback and you are flying by the seat of your pants means that you are using this visceral information that reminds me of.
- 11:22I think I may have even read it in the past on, on air, Matthew Crawford's why we drive.
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:29Which is, uh, I haven't read the whole book on air, but it just an extraordinary, I mean, everything he writes is, is amazing.
- 11:34But, uh, he talks specifically about the sort of the red, the analytical, uh, the, what does the number say on the speedometer, the screen experience of speed, as opposed to the visceral experience of speed.
- 11:49He is a motorcyclist and also an avid car guy, but he's mostly talking about motorcycles and, uh, it's just like, it just, it just doesn't compare.
- 11:59Right.
- 11:59Yeah.
- 11:59In fact, I remember you reading a section to me and he does say something in there.
- 12:05I'm, I apologize, Matthew, I'm going to butcher this.
- 12:08You said it very eloquently, but you said that the, these older kinds of cars refined let you know that you, that it is your ass hurtling down the road at 75 miles an hour, um, rather than that it's the abstract experience of a modern, you know, fancy car anyway.
- 12:31So yeah, same idea.
- 12:32Yeah.
- 12:33Well, I'm going to see to your pants, the visceral experience of speed and in the case of flying, of, uh, moving in all three, uh, planes, right?
- 12:42Uh, moving, having both, you know, having tilt and roll and yaw, uh, potentially all at once.
- 12:49Yeah.
- 12:50Thanks.
- 12:52Um, all right.
- 12:53So I, we, both of us watched some of, did not see all of the Fauci hearing this morning.
- 13:01And, uh, wanted to talk about it because, uh, this, you know, in some ways this feels like a long time coming and then it's sort of a letdown, but, uh, you know, of course there's no way for a Senate hearing to actually do, uh, all of what people would want to have done regardless.
- 13:20Uh, so one of the things I want to do is just like place us back, uh, in, in the time of, gosh, three, four, five, six years ago.
- 13:31And in part I've been doing that through natural selections this, uh, this year.
- 13:35I've been, and I've read it, I've read excerpts from, I think, uh, and, uh, maybe one or two complete versions of these stories that I've been posting.
- 13:45I solicited stories from people, true stories that I, I, or, or people were working with could vet for their, um, factual accuracy, uh, that I've been publishing, um, most weeks, uh, since February or March of this year.
- 14:01And the response to them has been extraordinary.
- 14:04And many people have said that it's been cathartic, uh, to go back and listen.
- 14:09And the response has been so extraordinary that I still, I still have dozens that I haven't even looked at yet.
- 14:13And I had to shut down, um, new submissions in March, uh, because they were coming in so fast.
- 14:19So clearly this is, this has struck a nerve as it should.
- 14:23And so, uh, I went back to just share with you some, some excerpts.
- 14:28And of course, most of the best stories aren't easily excerpted.
- 14:31Uh, so I've got a few excerpts to share, uh, just to, to put us back in, in the era, uh, that then we see Fauci, um, supposedly testifying about, although he doesn't answer any questions.
- 14:45You wanted to say something.
- 14:46Yeah, I do want to, I do want to say something.
- 14:48Um, one of the experiences that I think all of us are having, I have yet to hear a single person descent from this idea is that when we look back at the stuff that we went through, just like videos that we all saw at the time, we are shocked by how hard it is to remember how crazy it actually was.
- 15:10And A, I don't think that's unintentional.
- 15:16I think there, I think these things are actually likely manipulated.
- 15:21But one of the things that may be going on that frankly could be organic is that we are suffering from a kind of shock exhaustion where every year brings And so even though COVID is, you know, last week, it's still going on, frankly.
- 15:41I mean, the president is still, he just, we just had a big, um, you know, re-upping of the shots and there's still people mask.
- 15:47There's still people walking around masked outside in some parts of the United States, including where we live.
- 15:51Right.
- 15:51So this is not over.
- 15:53People are still going to die from taking a shot that they shouldn't take because their government is recommending that they do, albeit much less strongly than they once did, but anyway, it's ongoing.
- 16:04And yet it's very hard to recover the memory of what it was as it's happening.
- 16:09And I think you're doing something totally unique here.
- 16:12You're not just going back to the, you know, the tweets of the FDA or the, you know, collections of newscasters saying insane things, you're actually picking up stories that people haven't heard, but that represent the kind of experience of being a person, having your own personal life turned upside down.
- 16:30And anyway, hugely valuable.
- 16:32And, uh, anyway, I'm thrilled that somebody's doing it and that it's you.
- 16:37Well, thank you.
- 16:38So, um, you can share my screen now and just leave it on as we go through these.
- 16:42Um, I think yesterday I published the 23rd or 24th, one of these.
- 16:47And so, um, there, there have been many, this is just an amalgam of, uh, photographs taken by Dan Aponte in Ottawa in February of 2022 during the truckers convoy, which, um, it's also called the freedom convoy.
- 16:59Uh, and I published some people's stories as they experienced them then actually.
- 17:04And, uh, and some other people's stories during COVID, uh, which I linked to on natural selections as well.
- 17:12But the excerpts I'm going to share now are from this year's project in which I asked people to go back and find, you know, original documents to verify or, you know, allow us to talk to, you know, friends, neighbors, whatever who can, who can verify, but, um, Of course, our memory does change over time.
- 17:29And I think part of what has happened, uh, is akin to, you know, forgetting the pain of childbirth.
- 17:38You can't, you can't, you can't live in extraordinary pain endlessly.
- 17:43And so you do forget it.
- 17:45And in this case, hopefully it's not so that we can live through it again, uh, which is the sort of adaptive story behind not remembering the, the pain of childbirth, uh, but it, there is, uh, an amnesia, uh, that, you know, that occurs that is adaptive.
- 18:00And I think it's, I think that adaptive amnesia is being hijacked in this case.
- 18:05Yes.
- 18:05And I will also just say that there's a polarization here where you either cannot grapple with what happened to us because it covers so much, or you, you see everything through this lens because you've glimpsed this monster that did terrible things to us and never apprehended.
- 18:26And, and as we'll talk about, we see that in the hearing today, it just, it's completely stark.
- 18:31And, and I, and when we get to that, I will just say the experience of watching that hearing very different, depending upon who you were during the COVID era itself.
- 18:43And, uh, I believe that hearing as much as on the one hand, it was a nothing burger on the other hand, it was an everything burger.
- 18:51No, maybe it was an everything bagel, but, um, but remarkable.
- 18:57For what it was at which we will get to after these stories.
- 19:00All right.
- 19:02So from COVID horror stories, number 17, we have Graham Stahl writing COVID from inside the heart of the European union.
- 19:09So many people I know of memory hold the COVID experience.
- 19:12I sometimes bring up details and casual conversation with friends.
- 19:15For example, the absurdity of getting up from a table in a crowded restaurant, putting on a face mask in order to walk to the toilet and taking the mask off again once we seated.
- 19:24You remember how we all did that?
- 19:25I asked cheekily.
- 19:27Usually I met with a studied blank stare, one which covers an awkward silence and ends the flow of conversation.
- 19:32I know I've uncovered something buried in their minds and that that thing stings when oxygen touches it.
- 19:43This, uh, an invisible tattoo from Jean Sheffield, uh, was the penultimate COVID era story that I've published so far from just a few weeks ago.
- 19:52By March, 2021, she writes, we're back in our brick and mortar home.
- 19:56The news was everywhere about the wondrous vaccines that were then being deployed.
- 19:59As a trained marketer, I immediately identified and understood the recurring message around scarcity and that upon initial release, only to our most precious citizens, like healthcare workers and first responders would have access to them.
- 20:11Chatter was everywhere around me about reopening and getting on any waiting list possible to be first to get the vaccine.
- 20:16My neighbors were even interviewed on CNN about their experience on the Pfizer phase three clinical trials.
- 20:22Too much marketing.
- 20:23I thought not enough time, no way they know that these are safe.
- 20:27They'll get it.
- 20:28My sister-in-law who was a highly trained clinical doctor of pharmacology said, I think that's going to be doctor of pharmacy.
- 20:34They've never been able to get one of these.
- 20:36They've never been able to get one of those mRNA vaccines to actually work and they're dangerous.
- 20:40They've killed every animal they've ever tested them on.
- 20:42Give me a break.
- 20:43My brother, Chordled, you think they're going to just pass this thing out to the entire planet without testing the crap out of it.
- 20:49It's something about what my sister-in-law struck me as vitally true.
- 20:54I think we are going to wait.
- 20:57Months passed.
- 20:58Friends had parties before which everyone posted and locked up online.
- 21:01We'll be there and we are fully vaccinated.
- 21:04That's strange.
- 21:04All of this had become, I thought, but I couldn't pinpoint exactly what was so strange in the daily chaos of that era.
- 21:12So again, these are just excerpts from much longer stories.
- 21:16I encourage you to go and look at all of them.
- 21:19Yeah.
- 21:19Can't pin down exactly what it is.
- 21:21And it almost exists like outside of time.
- 21:26That's almost how it feels like during COVID.
- 21:30What does that mean?
- 21:31During COVID.
- 21:32COVID was a phenomenon.
- 21:34Right.
- 21:34And that's Irish.
- 21:35It was a governmental orientation.
- 21:39It was an informational milieu.
- 21:42It was all sorts of things that traveled together and had everything to do with each other.
- 21:46Right.
- 21:46And so I'm calling this project COVID era stories for lack of a better term, because I, you know, there's, it was an era.
- 21:54It still is an era.
- 21:55We're still living in it.
- 22:00This from Kim Kenimer.
- 22:01COVID era stories.
- 22:02Number eight, they won't let you in.
- 22:06Her father had been hospitalized and her family was not allowed to see him because remember that dad died of heart failure two days later.
- 22:14My dad.
- 22:15He'd been a newspaper man most of his life.
- 22:16He'd interviewed five us presidents and a young Elvis Presley, which he said always impressed his writing students years later, far more than the stories about the presidents ever did.
- 22:25He served as a counterintelligence agent during the Korean conflict and was stationed in France.
- 22:29He won a writing contest when he and my mom were just married in the prize sent them on a free trip to Europe where they had the time of their lives.
- 22:36He loved good wine and good food rounds of golf and gin.
- 22:39Rummy.
- 22:39He loved people and should have been surrounded by family during his final days.
- 22:43He loved stories and we should have been sharing many of them with his friends and relatives at a Memorial after he was gone.
- 22:48But of course, during COVID, there were no, there were no public funerals or memorials.
- 22:54My dad's last days were spent in a morphine haze and a hospital bed devoid of love.
- 22:59He died alone.
- 23:00Needlessly, senselessly, heartlessly.
- 23:04And his story is similar to many others.
- 23:06I am sure living in Texas.
- 23:09I soon learned that my COVID life was far less restricted than that of many people.
- 23:12I know who were living in other bluer States.
- 23:14I think that I took that a bit for granted, but not this.
- 23:18This was just as cruel as any policy in the world.
- 23:23I was just listening to something and I can't remember what it was, but it was a reflection.
- 23:28Somebody whose family had all had COVID.
- 23:32And so they had natural immunity.
- 23:35I think all four of them did.
- 23:36And one of the parents died and they couldn't, they weren't allowed to visit, even though they were the obvious people.
- 23:44There was no risk.
- 23:46They were past COVID.
- 23:47They weren't going to give it to anybody.
- 23:48We were mocked for believing in the idea of natural immunity.
- 23:53And, you know, there's a famous or it was famous little piece of video of Anthony Fauci as a young doctor, like already a government guy, but a young doctor in his early days talking, I think he literally says something like, well, we all know natural immunity is the best immunity you're ever going to get a vaccine tries to get to this state.
- 24:19But if you've had the disease, you don't need a vaccine.
- 24:24The one thing that I remember thinking during COVID when, you know, many of us got introduced to Fauci for the first time and the Wuhan lab and like all of it and seeing that clip from him as a young man.
- 24:36The one thing I was thinking was maybe he knows or suspects that this being a human made pathogen, it will operate differently in the body.
- 24:49It will trigger the immune system differently and that natural immunity won't be as powerful.
- 24:54Well, interesting you say that.
- 24:57It's one of the things you said on Bill Maher.
- 25:00And I do not know exactly why it behaved this way.
- 25:08Well, I guess there's a question.
- 25:09The shots trigger IgG4, the mRNA shots trigger IgG4, which is an anomalous thing for the adenovirus shots as well.
- 25:19I do not think they do.
- 25:20There's no evidence for it anyway.
- 25:23But there's a question.
- 25:24Obviously, the shots were more than just spike protein.
- 25:27But I don't know, I guess I don't want to speculate, but it's an interesting question.
- 25:35Trigger IgG4, which turns down the immune system.
- 25:38So what was it?
- 25:40Dials it down, not up.
- 25:42Right. Right.
- 25:42A shot that dials your immunity down, not up, dials it down with respect to the specific antigen being presented, which is obviously a, you know, it's the spike protein from SARS-CoV-2.
- 25:52So that's a question.
- 25:54I think we don't have every link to show that your suspicion there is right.
- 25:59But it's certainly a good question.
- 26:05All right.
- 26:06Next COVID-R story excerpt.
- 26:10This from a man writing under a pseudonym, Noam Inkfeather, in a piece called Manufacture of Consent.
- 26:18He's an acupuncturist and also a professor of or a clinical acupuncturist and has been on the faculty as well.
- 26:27By fall 2021, I had my dream job.
- 26:29I was earning more than double my original salary, treating patients, training students, and supporting my family on a single income.
- 26:36Two months later, the White House issued its decree.
- 26:39Employers with over 100 employees must mandate vaccination.
- 26:42The FQHC gave me an ultimatum, comply or leave.
- 26:46I am an identical twin.
- 26:48My brother works in software and had isolated himself during the pandemic.
- 26:51To reenter society and contrary to my advice, he took a Johnson and Johnson shot.
- 26:55It made him severely ill.
- 26:57And he later landed in the emergency department.
- 26:59All they offered him was shrug shoulders and Benadryl.
- 27:02They wouldn't even log the vaccine adverse event.
- 27:06He recovered, but was shaken and changed.
- 27:08Red pilled.
- 27:09He filled out his own VAERS report.
- 27:12My identical twin had suffered a serious adverse reaction.
- 27:15Given this obviously relevant fact, I requested a medical exemption.
- 27:18It didn't matter.
- 27:19You still have to get it.
- 27:20They told me in that moment, it became unmistakably clear that this was not about patient safety, public health or science.
- 27:27It was about power.
- 27:29It had always been about power.
- 27:31I complied at the last possible moment to minimize the risk of adverse events.
- 27:36I fasted and followed a mitigation protocol using ivermectin and Chinese herbal medicine.
- 27:41After the second Pfizer dose, I developed an uncomfortable, embarrassing lymphatic complication in a private area.
- 27:46Treatable, but not trivial.
- 27:48I managed it myself.
- 27:50That is my COVID story.
- 27:52I did not consent freely.
- 27:54I wrote that I was under duress on the vaccine consent forum.
- 27:57It didn't matter.
- 27:58They didn't look at the form anyway.
- 28:00I yielded to their, to their force, economic, professional and institutional.
- 28:06My choice was not between vaccination and safety, but between obedience, unemployment, between compliance and the ability to provide for my family.
- 28:14This is how consent was manufactured during the pandemic, not through persuasion, but through leverage, not through science, but through power.
- 28:23And before you comment on this, I'll just say that, um, I think it's coming out or already out, he's also written this, um, published by children's health defense.
- 28:32Lazenko lacks facts, facts, uh, a book that's quite, quite marvelous.
- 28:38And I encourage people to read it.
- 28:41Um, when something's up, when somebody is pulling a power play like this, you detect it first in the discontinuities, the anomalies that just don't make any sense, that can't be made sense of.
- 29:00And I remember I had a long list of them.
- 29:03One of them was the weird fact that we were simultaneously being shamed for not taking the shot in order to protect those who couldn't take it.
- 29:13And the very people who shouldn't be taking it were being told they had to.
- 29:17Yes.
- 29:18Right.
- 29:18And it's like, you just put those two things together and you know, that's the moment at which you pull the brake cable and the train comes to a halt because, you know, something more than we're being told is going on at the point that you have such an obvious lie.
- 29:35Yes.
- 29:36That's right.
- 29:37That's right.
- 29:39You have a couple more here.
- 29:41Ah, so this is, um, this is the story that I just published yesterday.
- 29:44This is the most recent one.
- 29:45One door closes and another opens by David Finkelstein.
- 29:50When the mayor makes it illegal for unvaccinated people to have a job in New York city, my husband is exempt since he works for and by himself out doors and he remains unvaccinated.
- 29:59He has clients that require us to wipe every door knob and every object we touch with a disinfectant wipe while passing through the house on the way to their backyard.
- 30:06Very slowly.
- 30:07We worked through the stress, which the city's vaccine mandate brings to our relationship and rebuild trust coming back together as a couple.
- 30:14As we hear of more and more people we know who died from the shots or suffered serious vaccine injuries, and I share more of the scientific literature with him.
- 30:21His view of the vaccine shifts until as closely aligned with my own and during official discrimination mandated by the city government together, we become closer than ever.
- 30:30My only sister is two years older than me and we've always been close.
- 30:34She tells me that her husband won't let us enter their home because we're unvaccinated, even though we all had Thanksgiving dinner together in their home in 2020.
- 30:42She agrees to meet me occasionally in her office properly masked, but the stress that's been created between us is toxic, bitter arguments, long periods of silence, resentment, fear, anger.
- 30:53Today, my political perspective is completely transformed due to the pandemic, while hers has not.
- 30:58We have rebuilt our relationship, but at the price of having a large subset of topics which we cannot talk about with one another.
- 31:05And in this piece, Finkelstein and his husband moved to Vermont, which they find to be a haven away from the crazy of New York City.
- 31:14And finally, the third story, the third COVID-19 story that I published, titled No Visitor's Allowed by Amy Johnson.
- 31:25Her son has been hospitalized.
- 31:28COVID.
- 31:30This is early.
- 31:30This is before the shots are out, I think.
- 31:34So the doctor began.
- 31:37This is on the phone because she's not allowed in.
- 31:40So the doctor began.
- 31:42I now feel as if I have PTSD when someone begins a sentence with so.
- 31:46So the doctor said, David's heart stopped again and we weren't able to get him back this time.
- 31:53Everything went dark.
- 31:55Everything.
- 31:56I don't remember much from the rest of that night.
- 31:58The doctor told me what to do to get my son's body picked up, but it was two days before I even thought of that again.
- 32:04I just remember ending the call and collapsing into a primal grief that felt like ruination.
- 32:08I felt ruined.
- 32:10A mother whose child's been plucked away.
- 32:12I said, I can't do this.
- 32:15My COVID story is this.
- 32:17My son died at age 25 after losing a year of not being able to work, to socialize, to attend classes, to be normal.
- 32:25He died because some psychopaths and sociopaths, as Richard Ebright at Rutgers labeled Fauci and his clan of monster makers, chose to play dangerous games of deadly pathogens and then lied about it all.
- 32:36David lost that year and then he lost his life.
- 32:40Five years on, I still hope for justice.
- 32:42I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, but I do hope it happens for David's sisters to see.
- 32:47It still feels impossible if this happened five years on.
- 32:55Yeah, that's chilling.
- 32:58Just the mere thought and what must have happened medically for a 25 year old to die of COVID.
- 33:11It's extremely unlikely.
- 33:14Yeah.
- 33:16It's extremely unlikely.
- 33:19I thought I'd end the excerpts there because she calls us back to Fauci and what she calls his clan of monster makers.
- 33:36We see it in this hearing today.
- 33:40We see this man sitting there.
- 33:45He gives his brief opening statement, which is empty and monstrous in its way.
- 33:54And then over and over and over again, in answer to every single question he is asked, he invokes the fifth, he says.
- 34:06On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution.
- 34:16Some of the senators, specifically Senator Scott, the senior senator out of Florida does an excellent job of asking just question after question after question, which forces Fauci to say this over and over and over again.
- 34:32It makes him look like a fool and it makes him look guilty.
- 34:40He is not a fool, but he is guilty.
- 34:44He's not a fool.
- 34:45He is clearly guilty.
- 34:47This has been obvious for a very long time.
- 34:52And I will tell you that in watching it, I kept thinking the difficult thing about this is that you are actually looking at a monster to the extent that a monster is a thing, this is what one looks like.
- 35:09He looks like, you know, a charming, unthreatening, well-groomed, well-spoken dweeb.
- 35:20I mean, that's the thing is he looks like a, you know, a nerdy scientific guy who, uh, you know, just found himself in a difficult position.
- 35:30Of course, that has nothing to do with what he is.
- 35:33He's actually, you know, his bread and butter.
- 35:36The reason he was the most highly paid federal employee of all was that he was in charge of bioweapons research.
- 35:45This is a bioweapons guy.
- 35:46Yeah.
- 35:47And Senator Ernst makes that point too, uh, in the hearing.
- 35:50Yeah.
- 35:51But I think it points to a kind of divide part of what is making it difficult for the public to come to consensus about what took place is that what took place is absolutely unthinkable until you make one leap, which is that there are people who by whatever mechanism are perfectly comfortable causing the death of innocence.
- 36:21And they may have a sophisticated rationalization, but the point is we know these people from history.
- 36:28The right thing to do with them is to allow history to record them or their ghastly crimes.
- 36:35And in Fauci's case, we are, this is your chance.
- 36:40You can spend however long he was in front of this committee.
- 36:43And yes, he doesn't say anything because he keeps saying the same thing over and over again.
- 36:47Now, mind you, even the thing he says is monstrous because a, it's not obvious he has a fifth amendment right to decline to say anything because he has a pardon.
- 37:00And so in fact, one of the rationales, not rationalization, one of the rationales that the founders had in granting the right to give a pardon was to force somebody to testify.
- 37:15So the fact that he has a, a pardon means it's not obvious at all that he has the right to answer these questions.
- 37:22But even if you imagine that he does have that right, he elides the part where that right derives from the fact that he is entitled not to incriminate himself, which he does not say, right?
- 37:35He has the right not to testify, but he has the right not to testify so as not to incriminate himself.
- 37:41Right.
- 37:41So the point is okay.
- 37:43He's invoking the right, but not the reason for the right.
- 37:46He's invoking the right, but not paying the cost, which is the implication that he did something wrong and knows it.
- 37:54Go ahead.
- 37:57Well, I just, because you were just there, I transcribed part of the very end when Senator Paul, who's the chairman, says, and this is not a perfect transcription.
- 38:08So I really did want to hear from Dr.
- 38:10Fauci today.
- 38:10I did want to hear an apology, some semblance of being sorry for what happened.
- 38:14He has been subpoenaed here to testify.
- 38:16He has cited a privilege that is unsupported because of his blanket pardon and because he waived the privilege by testifying at the start.
- 38:24True.
- 38:24I'm going to give you one more opportunity to comply with the law.
- 38:28Senator Paul says to Fauci, limited to the period of your pardon at any point between January 1st, 2014, which is interesting, the pardon goes back that far, and January 19th, 2025, the moment at which Biden left office, did you destroy any federal record or tell anybody else to?
- 38:45Fauci, on the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution.
- 38:52Paul says, given that you have an unlimited presidential pardon, what is your specific objection that you are making?
- 38:58Fauci says the same thing again.
- 39:00Paul says, my question was limited to the period of your pardon only.
- 39:03I find your objection unsupported and direct you to answer the question.
- 39:07Fauci once again says the same thing.
- 39:09And Senator Paul says, because you refuse to answer, citing a privilege that is unsupported because of your pardon, and after being denied to do so, this committee is scheduled to vote for next week on a resolution certifying your contempt.
- 39:22Fascinating legal exchange.
- 39:24Yes.
- 39:25Well, it's, I guess, I guess it is an exchange, even though Fauci simply repeats the same mantra, but over and over again.
- 39:34I don't want to get too deep in the weeds, but Senator Paul has specifically narrowed his question to a period in which Fauci is immune by presidential part.
- 39:49His right not to testify in a way that incriminates him evaporates as long as he couldn't be prosecuted.
- 39:56And so the key thing here is that a pardon, unfortunately, a pardon can be nebulous in terms of its specificity.
- 40:09I think that's a mistake we have to fix because these things have become a get out of jail free card and they've created an elevated kind of citizen that can get away with murder and everything else.
- 40:19But the Senator Paul is saying to Anthony Fauci, you are committing a crime today.
- 40:31You are refusing to answer a lawful question that this committee has a right to ask and you do not have the right to decline to answer and you're declining anyway.
- 40:40You are in contempt.
- 40:42Right.
- 40:42So the point is that's a new crime.
- 40:44It's one for which he does not have a pardon.
- 40:47And here's what's going to happen.
- 40:52Stuff and then nothing.
- 40:54Right.
- 40:54You're not.
- 40:55This guy is not going to end up paying the price here.
- 41:00He is going to be playing this elaborate game until it goes away.
- 41:06And one of my other thoughts in watching this whole set of exchanges, I mean, and the other point I want to make clear to people who don't get it is you're not allowed to answer certain questions that are exculpatory and not answer other questions in which you would incriminate yourself if you invoke your right not to incriminate yourself.
- 41:29It has to be across the board.
- 41:30And so well, he did not he did not answer any questions, but he did give his opening statement.
- 41:35He gave a statement after being under oath.
- 41:37Yes.
- 41:38So he was put under oath.
- 41:39He gave an opening statement, which is nothing.
- 41:42But then he gave that little mantra about the Fifth Amendment, every other single moment that he was told he should speak.
- 41:49So there is at least a valid legal question as to whether he was entitled to invoke the Fifth not only because of his immunity, but because he had already elected to speak.
- 42:00He had already said prejudice, prejudicial things and then declined to speak where he might incriminate himself, which I mean, the legal ground here is fascinating.
- 42:12Why would he be incriminating himself if he had a pardon?
- 42:16Maybe because he's done something since Biden left office, maybe because he was planning to lie to the committee and lying to the committee would be a crime in and of itself for which he didn't have a part.
- 42:25So there's jeopardy here, even though he got an amazing blanket pardon for unspecified crimes during an incredibly long period of time, which should not have happened.
- 42:37Right.
- 42:38And I do want to point out, you know, in looking into this, the idea of a blanket pardon.
- 42:49There's lots of precedent here of various kinds.
- 42:54There's a lot of egregious stuff what happened at the end of the Biden administration.
- 42:57But Washington granted pardons to soldiers in the Whiskey Rebellion, I believe.
- 43:05Lincoln granted it to soldiers in the Confederacy so that the nation could heal.
- 43:13Carter granted it to draft dodgers.
- 43:16Ford granted it to Nixon, which is interesting for unspecified crimes.
- 43:23That may be the closest precedent that we have.
- 43:26Bush, the first Bush granted it to Iran-Contra suspects, Casper Weinberger.
- 43:35So there's a lot of this stuff going on.
- 43:37But what's happened in the modern era is this impulse to just immunize obvious crooks at the end of an administration.
- 43:47So it's maximally covering.
- 43:49In Biden's case, we don't know the question of whether or not the pardon might have been signed by the auto pen is actually probably not that useful, even if it was.
- 44:00It doesn't matter because a pardon doesn't apparently require a signature.
- 44:03I was surprised to learn that.
- 44:05But what it does require is the president himself authorized it.
- 44:09And was he was he capable of authorizing anything on the last day of office?
- 44:13And did he?
- 44:13And I will just say in terms of what the hell we do now, I mean, I'm going to have two messages here.
- 44:19One message is you are getting a glimpse at the system we actually live under.
- 44:27And it fits well with the paradigm I laid out in a tweet thread this week.
- 44:33Not thinking of this topic specifically at all.
- 44:36But you want to put up my tweet thread?
- 44:38I'll just read the first tweet in it.
- 44:44I said, something is at war with us.
- 44:47Being regular citizens who want things to work and to be left alone.
- 44:51We're slow to react because we think in terms of nations.
- 44:54Our enemies are mafias that wear governments like a cloak to defeat our eyes and fly our flags to disarm our minds.
- 45:01So I think the way to think about Anthony Fauci sitting there in front of this committee today is we are governed by mafias.
- 45:13He is a made man.
- 45:15I think he's just clearly a made man.
- 45:17And that means we don't have the ability to touch him.
- 45:21Right.
- 45:21There's only so much that Rand Paul can do or Ron Johnson.
- 45:27They don't have the power.
- 45:29They are our representatives and we don't have the power to touch Anthony Fauci for reasons we don't know.
- 45:34Mafias could presumably deal with him.
- 45:36Mafias deal with each other and their own all the time.
- 45:39They have rules, but we don't know them.
- 45:40They're not published anywhere.
- 45:42We don't have standing to say, hey, this person is a flat out monster and deserves to be dealt with.
- 45:49So anyway, thinking of him as a made man in a mafia whose name we don't know makes a lot more sense of what you saw.
- 45:57What he was effectively doing was a flex.
- 45:59He was sitting there and saying, I don't have to answer your question because who the hell are you?
- 46:04What's that?
- 46:05Right.
- 46:06The Senator Moody, the junior senator from Florida, was angry as everyone as everyone should be.
- 46:16I think there's just another quote from this morning.
- 46:19Excuse me.
- 46:21Because I think it speaks to where we actually are and where our representatives should be.
- 46:26And the alternate reality that Fauci and his henchmen seem to be living in.
- 46:35She says something like we fought back against the lockdowns, the school closures, the church closures.
- 46:40We fought back.
- 46:40We got ridiculed for it.
- 46:41We didn't just call people names.
- 46:42We actually impaneled the grand jury, this in Florida, the people of all walks of life, of all political persuasions.
- 46:48So that's how I came here, fighting for a free state.
- 46:51We are now called the free state of Florida.
- 46:53I believe that our responsibility here is to make sure the government remembers that the people are our bosses.
- 46:59We report to them.
- 47:01We are accountable to them.
- 47:03Government should not operate for itself.
- 47:05Government operates on behalf of the American people.
- 47:10What you're arguing is that that is a fantasy and that that is not what is actually happening.
- 47:17And I think there are states in which it is it is trying to happen.
- 47:20I think Florida is one of them, Idaho.
- 47:23There are states in which the government is trying to operate on behalf of its people.
- 47:28But your argument that Fauci is effectively a made man in a mafia that is invisible to us suggests that that what Senator Moody is arguing is not in fact the world that we are living in.
- 47:41Yeah.
- 47:41And I think this is the problem with Covid.
- 47:45Is that for those of us who stuck it out and paid attention and tracked the various contradictions and figured out as well as we could.
- 47:54And I still don't think we know.
- 47:55We know elements of what it was about.
- 47:57But I don't think we know what it was about overall.
- 47:59We don't know what the purpose of the research is that produced the disease.
- 48:03We know Fauci was involved.
- 48:04We don't know exactly what the vaccine was about and why it was important to get it into every single arm.
- 48:09We know Fauci was involved.
- 48:11We don't know why we were denied drugs that they knew full well worked.
- 48:15We can see that in the releases of documents this week.
- 48:18They knew that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin worked.
- 48:20And yet we were told that they didn't.
- 48:22What?
- 48:23Imagine you're going to turn the freaking world upside down over a disease that is not deadly but dangerous.
- 48:32And you are going to deny people comparatively safe medications that address the disease very well and force them in to an untested gene therapy that you know isn't effective and is very dangerous.
- 48:48Like I don't know how you get past the fact that when you do that set of things you are actually causing deaths that would not otherwise have occurred.
- 49:00You're doing that.
- 49:01So what allows that other than a perfect comfort.
- 49:06You know it has to be done for some I don't know is it a business reason the power reason.
- 49:10I don't know.
- 49:11When you make that list it seems to me that one thing that distinguishes.
- 49:18The lab origin of the virus which is the only thing on the list which I think increasing numbers of people accept and don't find a politically unviable position even if they're still a little shaky on whether or not it's true.
- 49:29That is distinct from everything else all of the other COVID era crimes because for that one and that one alone Fauci and his monster makers as Amy Johnson that COVID era story writes.
- 49:43Fauci and his monster makers have a clear interest in this not knowing the truth.
- 49:48It is clear to everyone why they would not want this to have originated in a lab that he and his people funded.
- 49:55Right.
- 49:55So with regard to all of the rest of them we have hypotheses we have some ideas but it's it's still murky.
- 50:01Like what is his interest.
- 50:02Why.
- 50:03What is the mafia trying to accomplish with its with its bio weapons research which it was supposed to use research.
- 50:10Right.
- 50:10But why why keep Ivermectin why do vaccines never need to be in everyone's arms.
- 50:15Like why the lockdowns.
- 50:17Like all of these things about which we have you know we have we have spent hours and hours hours talking and we have lots of ideas as do many other people.
- 50:25But the only one for which it is utterly clear that there is an incentive to obscure the truth by the people who are obscuring the truth is the virus origins.
- 50:35Yep.
- 50:37Now this does surface what I think is the kind of key contradiction in the hearings today.
- 50:46Again it looked like a nothing burger because he didn't answer the questions.
- 50:51But it wasn't.
- 50:52He did answer a different question through his approach here.
- 50:57And.
- 50:58I just think.
- 51:02It's subtle until you see it and then it it just leaps out which is.
- 51:09People make the mistake because there are elements of this hearing in Congress and a court.
- 51:18Right because you're sworn in under oath because you're compelled to testify right because you're cross examined these things evoke our reaction to a court.
- 51:27But the court is trying you.
- 51:32Right.
- 51:32Your rights are built around trying you.
- 51:36This hearing is about the citizenry trying to ascertain what happened to it.
- 51:44This is not about you Anthony Fauci.
- 51:47This is about us.
- 51:49We have a right to understand what happened to us.
- 51:54Why.
- 51:54So we can protect ourselves in the future so that people who deserve justice can get it.
- 52:00And so even as you invoke a right you don't seem to have brazenly.
- 52:08You are telling us that actually in your mind what happened to us is nothing compared to the jeopardy to you.
- 52:17You don't believe in our right to be informed.
- 52:23Right.
- 52:23And there's this weird connection right.
- 52:27The word consent has really important legal meanings and it comes up in three contexts.
- 52:33There's obviously sexual consent which is important and obviously people have analogized the shot to like a rape violation of the body and I don't think that that's overdrawn.
- 52:43But the two things I want to point to are consent shows up in the idea of informed consent which is the sacrosanct right that we have to reject interference with our bodies based on full evidence of what it is that's being proposed.
- 53:01We have the right to say no to things like your freaking shot.
- 53:04OK.
- 53:05We don't have to satisfy you that we understand it better than you do to say no.
- 53:10We have a right to say no.
- 53:12Right.
- 53:12I frequently remind people we hanged seven doctors for violating informed consent at the end of at the end of World War Two.
- 53:21The other context it comes up in is the consent of the governed.
- 53:26Consent of the governed is the sole basis for the legitimacy of government.
- 53:32And so you're watching Anthony Fauci interfere with how informed we are so that we can exercise consent over our governance.
- 53:42Right.
- 53:43It's like we are entitled to informed consent of the governed and you Anthony Fauci are standing in the way of that because somehow to you this is a game and the fact that people lost loved ones who died alone and they suffer with that tragedy to this day.
- 54:00Doesn't mean anything to you.
- 54:02The fact that children who didn't need the shot were given the shot and died who had long lives ahead.
- 54:07It doesn't mean anything to you.
- 54:10The fact that people who had immunity from having already had covid were needlessly injected and suffered and in many cases died means nothing to you because you are a monster.
- 54:20Right.
- 54:21This is what a monster looks like.
- 54:22Whatever you think the monster looks like whatever it is that comes up in your mind when you see the word monster replace it with this.
- 54:30This is what it actually looks like and this is why it's dangerous.
- 54:33The monster looked like a grizzly bear.
- 54:35People would react to them properly.
- 54:37But when they look like Anthony Fauci half the country is mesmerized.
- 54:41Right.
- 54:41Julia Roberts is like kissing a picture of the guy on TV now recently.
- 54:47No.
- 54:47Okay.
- 54:47Back back in the day.
- 54:48But the point is okay.
- 54:50Look.
- 54:50Yeah.
- 54:51You kissed a monster.
- 54:52And you haven't owned up to it.
- 54:54And the fact is actually you should own up to it.
- 54:56You should come out and say wow was I confused.
- 54:59Turns out the dude's a frickin monster.
- 55:02He's a killer and he doesn't care.
- 55:04Right.
- 55:05This is somebody who delights in his power even when other people are suffering and dying.
- 55:09And so anyway.
- 55:12Informed consent of the governed is what we are entitled to.
- 55:15And Anthony Fauci is standing directly in the way of it and invoking a right cynically that he shouldn't have in this context.
- 55:22And all of that if that doesn't tell you what world we're living in I don't think anything will.
- 55:27Yeah.
- 55:28I agree.
- 55:29Um, I haven't listened to a lot of Senate hearings.
- 55:36But my sense which has been said by many is that we are in a more polarized landscape than ever before.
- 55:44And that was certainly the polarization was on stark display.
- 55:49And this you didn't have to know who was speaking to know what team they play for.
- 55:55Right.
- 55:56And okay.
- 55:57This is 15 eight Republicans seven Democrats 15 sitting senators on the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee.
- 56:06And here's just two two statements made.
- 56:12And I want first I won't say who said what the attempt to vilify you Dr.
- 56:17Fauci is part of a larger campaign to vilify science and separate human being.
- 56:27You call yourself the most famous scientist in the world.
- 56:29Well, you've done more to harm science than any other scientist in my lifetime.
- 56:36The first was Senator Blumenthal, Democrat from Connecticut.
- 56:40The second was Senator Hawley, Republican from Missouri.
- 56:48I even when I was voting Democrat, I do not remember being able to to say, wow, one of these teams is just 100 percent always wrong.
- 57:03Right.
- 57:03That wasn't that was not the case.
- 57:08How could we have gone so far afield from from logic and from observation and from rigor?
- 57:20I mean, again, Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut, the attempt to vilify you Dr.
- 57:25Fauci is part of a larger campaign to vilify science.
- 57:30No, actually, the Democrats are successfully destroying the American public's ability to believe in science, to engage scientifically, to imagine that science has the answers to any problems at all.
- 57:48Like this is the problem the Democrats are doing with regard to their approach to science.
- 57:54Follow the science.
- 57:56What Fauci said, I am science.
- 57:58Like none of this has any relationship to science.
- 58:02And we said over and over and over again, like, OK, when you say something like that, Senator Blumenthal, you you first of all demonstrate that you have no idea what science is.
- 58:11But more to the point, you're the problem.
- 58:13You're the one.
- 58:15Like, yes, we we need science.
- 58:17We need a scientific understanding of the world.
- 58:19It has given us so much and will continue to do so.
- 58:22But what you're chasing here is the opposite.
- 58:25This is like this is the the inverse is the mere image is the dark, dark version of its scientism, not science.
- 58:36And it's it's unfortunately not decrepit.
- 58:40It's incredibly powerful.
- 58:41It is rising.
- 58:42This dark form of pseudo science is rising.
- 58:46It is being celebrated by those who don't know any better.
- 58:50The idea that this week you could make that argument that this is, you know, part of a larger campaign to demonize science when one of the things that emerged this week was a fresh trove of I think they're slack messages amongst the proximal origins.
- 59:11Who published that terrible paper in which they claimed that it was obvious that this came from the wild and couldn't possibly have come from a lab and behind the scenes as they talked to each other.
- 59:21They were having the same freaking discussion that we were having out here about the obvious signatures of lab origin.
- 59:28So.
- 59:30What you're calling science is.
- 59:36The institutional right to dispense a narrative irrespective of what the evidence says.
- 59:43That's what they were doing.
- 59:44That's what Fauci was doing.
- 59:46He knew better.
- 59:47Christian Anderson and his buddies knew better.
- 59:50They all knew better behind the scenes.
- 59:51So you know, it's like our last episode.
- 59:56Tell me in one sentence that your education completely failed you and that you know nothing.
- 1:00:00Right.
- 1:00:00Because who said it during the pandemic?
- 1:00:04Somebody said it very well.
- 1:00:05You know, questioning the science is how you do science.
- 1:00:08That's what you do.
- 1:00:09You you pressure test things.
- 1:00:11And the idea that narratives that come from someplace with science in the title, that those narratives are beyond question and that those who question are either morally or mentally defective is insane.
- 1:00:23And here's the thing.
- 1:00:24It's one thing if in the midst of a trumped up emergency, you made a bad judgment.
- 1:00:33It's another thing five years later, if you still don't get it, you couldn't possibly not get it at this point.
- 1:00:40Just look at the documents that came out this week and ask yourself, was the science the thing that they published that lied or was the science the thing that they talked about in their slack messages where they were looking at the sequence and saying, this looks bad.
- 1:00:54Right.
- 1:00:54This looks like it came from a laboratory.
- 1:00:56I don't see how it could have come from nature.
- 1:00:58They knew and they lied and you're still buying it.
- 1:01:01It's like, you know, it's like, you know, they've turned the lights on and, you know, the magic apparatus is being, you know, carted away and disassembled.
- 1:01:14And you're still you still believe it's magic, right?
- 1:01:17You still accept their nonsense story, even though that you know that they never did.
- 1:01:22Like how dumb would you have to be?
- 1:01:24Yeah, the wizard has been revealed.
- 1:01:26The emperor is naked.
- 1:01:28We have we have these stories from literature and fairy tale all over the place because it is critical that we not do this.
- 1:01:40It is critical that we be able to see what we see and say what we see.
- 1:01:46And instead, we have the hijacking of words, words like vaccine and science.
- 1:01:51And, you know, woman separately.
- 1:01:53But, you know, we have the hijacking of words in which they magically become something new.
- 1:01:59And people who are paying no attention go, oh, well, yeah, I've used that word before.
- 1:02:05OK, I know I'm pro vaccine.
- 1:02:07I'm pro science.
- 1:02:08This is these are the kinds of things that I stand for.
- 1:02:10Therefore, anyone who is who is doing that must be the good person.
- 1:02:14And, you know, I mean, that's that's a move that we saw at Evergreen.
- 1:02:19Mm hmm.
- 1:02:19You know, anyone who says they're standing up for the black people must be on the right side of history.
- 1:02:24Like, well, all you have to do is say it then and you'll have your support.
- 1:02:28Like, how gameable is this?
- 1:02:30Right.
- 1:02:30The entire thing is so gameable.
- 1:02:32And so, you know, like, no, nothing that happened today changes anything in the Senate.
- 1:02:37But we did get to see Fauci say his frickin' mantra that he was presumably told to say by counsel over and over and over again.
- 1:02:47And occasionally, occasionally, maybe get just a little bit uncomfortable, which, you know, it's there will never be enough.
- 1:02:56And as as Amy Johnson and the end of her COVID era story that I read an excerpt from earlier asks for, you know, we want accountability.
- 1:03:05We want to know that this cannot happen again and that will that is not going to happen.
- 1:03:13But.
- 1:03:16But Fauci saying over and over and over again, on the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.
- 1:03:25Even when asked questions like what day of the week did this thing happen on?
- 1:03:30Tells us that it's both a game to him, as you have said.
- 1:03:35And also, I think you're right.
- 1:03:37He's he's safe.
- 1:03:39He's a made man.
- 1:03:39It doesn't.
- 1:03:42It's this is we are trivial to him.
- 1:03:45We don't we don't we don't count.
- 1:03:47We don't rank.
- 1:03:49And also, he just knows enough about how the world is actually run that he can sit in front of senators and pretty much know that they can't touch him.
- 1:04:01They can't.
- 1:04:02And, you know, one of the things you get, we'll come back to the diary in a second.
- 1:04:05But one of the things that you get looking at his so-called diary, which I don't think is a diary, is that he can't touch him.
- 1:04:09And the other thing that I think is a diary is that it does admit a tremendous amount of vanity.
- 1:04:14Vanity?
- 1:04:15Yeah.
- 1:04:15Ungodly levels of vanity.
- 1:04:18And.
- 1:04:21He was thinking about him during the pandemic.
- 1:04:24He wasn't thinking about it.
- 1:04:25He was playing a guy who was thinking a lot about you during the pandemic, but he was thinking about him.
- 1:04:29And he was effectively laughing at you and he's laughing at you still.
- 1:04:33And that's.
- 1:04:35It it creates this weird.
- 1:04:38All right.
- 1:04:40Quantum superpositionists get abused.
- 1:04:43Such a kind of nifty concept or trope or whatever that we can invoke in context that I'm sure make physicists squirm.
- 1:04:49But.
- 1:04:51Here's the thing.
- 1:04:52We live in two worlds simultaneously at the moment.
- 1:04:57I remember conversations that I had with people I cared deeply about at the beginning of Covid.
- 1:05:02Right.
- 1:05:03As the lab leak.
- 1:05:05Story was beginning to crack.
- 1:05:08And what I saw was actually, I think we're going to win the lab leak story.
- 1:05:15We're not yet winning the vaccine story.
- 1:05:19And we're way behind on the repurposed drug story, but we know the dimensions of it.
- 1:05:26And my feeling is we're actually way ahead in this Covid trajectory.
- 1:05:31Our side is punching way above its weight class.
- 1:05:34We need to go for broke and we need to get all of these things hashed out so the public gets them all because we're never going to get a better chance to see how our system works.
- 1:05:42This story diagnosis the system in twenty twenty six.
- 1:05:47Here's what we see.
- 1:05:51We actually won.
- 1:05:54Completely, all of these things are now visible to anybody who wishes to see them.
- 1:06:00And we've lost completely.
- 1:06:02Our capacity to do anything about this is now on full display.
- 1:06:06We have none.
- 1:06:08That is an amazing position to be in, but it does tell you.
- 1:06:12What we have to do next, because.
- 1:06:17It means that your ability to simply get the story clear enough and enough evidence on the table does not have an impact on what happens next.
- 1:06:25We're still apparently dispensing these frickin shots.
- 1:06:28How crazy is that?
- 1:06:30Right after all that we have unearthed, after all the people who lost their careers to unearth this stuff, they're still dispensing the frickin shots.
- 1:06:40So, OK, we won completely.
- 1:06:43Anybody who wants to know can now know pretty much what happened.
- 1:06:46We still have some loose ends.
- 1:06:47We don't know exactly what the ultimate objective was.
- 1:06:49But if you want to know what happened during Covid, you can find out there are a lot of us out here who know.
- 1:06:54And we've lost completely in terms of power, knowing completely what happened or having a really good record of all of these major victories and the evidence that was so hard.
- 1:07:04One doesn't buy you anything in terms of the ability to actually change the trajectory of the ship.
- 1:07:09So I would argue that the right thing to do.
- 1:07:14Is with the part that we did win the evidence, right?
- 1:07:18It's out there is that we need to figure out now how to talk to the people who actually have goodness in their hearts, but are still so desperately confused.
- 1:07:29You have to figure out how to approach them with enough generosity of spirit.
- 1:07:34That you can get them over the line to just seeing you can get them to take off the blindfold.
- 1:07:39So, for example, I might approach somebody and I would say.
- 1:07:45If it was true.
- 1:07:48That Anthony Fauci knew that the shots did not prevent transmission and that they waned rapidly with time.
- 1:07:57And he knew that Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were likely useful ways to address this pathogen.
- 1:08:07And he told the public the opposite, knowing that the shot carried risks and that these drugs were far safer.
- 1:08:15Would you then acknowledge that all of the people that you thought had lost their minds and were actually morally defective because they were being selfish and grandma was going to die?
- 1:08:24Would you acknowledge that those people deserve a fresh hearing that maybe they were right and you were so convinced that they were wrong and you had it backwards?
- 1:08:34You can get them to admit that just that simple comparison, if it were true.
- 1:08:40Would force them to rethink who they thought was good and who they thought was bad during that era, then the comparison can now be done because we now have enough behind the scenes information to say that all of those things were known.
- 1:08:51And yet we got the messages that we got in public, which were dangerous and they killed.
- 1:08:59I want to believe you're right.
- 1:09:00It feels like a very hard sell.
- 1:09:04So in the hearing, I think it was Senator Johnson who had had some numbers because he does that he showed with regard to doses of and there were several things, but the three that I remember of Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine and COVID shots given over X number of years, injuries, deaths, et cetera.
- 1:09:27And of course, the COVID shots.
- 1:09:30Oh, and I think Remdesivir may have been on there as well.
- 1:09:33So Remdesivir is way more dangerous than Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine and way less effective.
- 1:09:40And the COVID shots orders of magnitude more than any of those.
- 1:09:45Right.
- 1:09:46So those numbers to me, you know, because because I appreciate, you know, a simple table with clear numbers, just make the argument.
- 1:09:55And I understand that maybe that doesn't make the argument for many people.
- 1:09:59But it seems to me that even if you just take two of the things, say, let's go with hydroxychloroquine, which is a slightly more dangerous drug than Ivermectin.
- 1:10:10Right.
- 1:10:10Still like not not really at all, but slightly more than Ivermectin.
- 1:10:14Let's just compare known adverse events to hydroxychloroquine doses across the time that it's been used versus COVID mRNA vaccines.
- 1:10:26And then say, perhaps to the person whom you are hoping that you're the good person who is still confused, say, given his position as the head of the NIAID, Fauci certainly would have had access to these numbers, right?
- 1:10:44He would have.
- 1:10:45Therefore, why was his public statement, why were his public statements about these two things flipped?
- 1:10:55Mustn't he have been intentionally obscuring something?
- 1:10:59He could not have been this confused on both of these issues in so opposite a way.
- 1:11:06He could not have been.
- 1:11:07Yeah, I think I think it's completely clear.
- 1:11:10I mean, so in some sense, the question, the mystery is why is this man free?
- 1:11:16Why, if he knew these things, if if the idea was, hey, this is an emergency and people are going to die, therefore, you have to do these things.
- 1:11:23And he told you to do the things that actually cause people to die.
- 1:11:26And he didn't tell you to do the things that cause people to live.
- 1:11:30Why is this man free?
- 1:11:31And the answer is because he's a made man.
- 1:11:35But the point is, I think that that's a useful exercise because did you know that there were made men, you know, the NIAID?
- 1:11:43Like, that's an odd place to find a made man, but he is one highest paid federal employee.
- 1:11:47Did you know that?
- 1:11:48Interesting.
- 1:11:49The weapons guy, huh?
- 1:11:51All those facts fit together and he's going to, you know, invoke a right he doesn't have because he was given a pardon.
- 1:11:56He shouldn't have been given.
- 1:11:59I'm sorry.
- 1:12:00This is this is nature.
- 1:12:03This is nature's way of telling you about the system that you live under.
- 1:12:07And that's terrifying, right?
- 1:12:09We live under a system we can't describe.
- 1:12:11We don't have influence over and life and death all the time.
- 1:12:16That's what's on the table.
- 1:12:17Life and death.
- 1:12:18We are we are just rolling the dice with this system that, you know, we can't even get its attention.
- 1:12:24So I do think.
- 1:12:28People made massive.
- 1:12:32But honest errors in judgment, they instead of using their.
- 1:12:38Minds, they use their amygdala to reason and they got spooked into doing shit.
- 1:12:43They shouldn't and a lot of them died and a lot of them are still around and embarrassed, but.
- 1:12:49Only way out of this is to come to agreement on the things that we actually now know, because the price for coming to understand them was very, very high.
- 1:12:58We need we need to recover on that investment because this story tells us where we are like no other story.
- 1:13:06That's right.
- 1:13:08So that I think so.
- 1:13:10Yeah.
- 1:13:11Yeah.
- 1:13:15What a world.
- 1:13:17What a world we're living in.
- 1:13:19All right.
- 1:13:21We'll be back next week.
- 1:13:23Same time, same place, I think.
- 1:13:24I think next week is the same time, same place kind of deal.
- 1:13:27But a week later, if it's the same time, same place.
- 1:13:32Yeah, I guess it depends.
- 1:13:33I mean, you know, that's the question.
- 1:13:35Right.
- 1:13:37Same place a week later.
- 1:13:41I think so.
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