Latest / Podcasts By Donna Jodhan / Remarkable World Commentary Episode #109: Ask Advocate Donna
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- 0:12Podcast Commentator: Greetings, Donna J. Jordan, LLBAP and MBA invites you to listen to her
- 0:20biweekly podcast, Remarkable World Commentary.
- 0:24Here, Donna shares some of her innermost thoughts,
- 0:27insights, perspectives, and more with her listeners.
- 0:31Donna focuses on topics that directly affect the future of kids,
- 0:35especially kids with disabilities.
- 0:38Donna is a blind advocate, author, sight loss coach,
- 0:42dinner mystery producer, writer, entrepreneur,
- 0:45law graduate, and podcast commentator.
- 0:49She has decades of lived experiences, knowledge,
- 0:53skills, and expertise in access, technology and information.
- 0:58As someone who has been internationally recognized for her work and roles.
- 1:02She just wants to make things better than possible.
- 1:07Donna J. Jodhan, LLB, ACSP, MBA: Greetings everyone. And I am Donna J.
- 1:10Jordan, welcoming you to my September or the month of September,
- 1:17ask advocate Donna My Remarkable World Commentary podcast for the month of
- 1:25September. Ask ask advocate Donna Hope.
- 1:30Everybody is doing well and let's get started for this particular episode of mine.
- 1:38Okay, so let's start off with my favorite quote or one of my
- 1:48favorite quotes. Okay.
- 1:52Speak in such a way that others love to listen to you.
- 1:59Listen in such a way that others love to speak to you.
- 2:06Try this quote. It is very, very effective if you sit down and think
- 2:12about it. It's all about using this or the words of this quote to engage in meaningful
- 2:21communication. Give it a whirl.
- 2:24Okay, now I'm going to move on to my word game.
- 2:29And every in every segment, my word game consists of presenting you with
- 2:37two pairs of words as they pertain to advocacy.
- 2:43Okay. And more often than not, these words come up in the in the landscape
- 2:52of advocacy. And I think it's a good way for us to really sit down and think about these
- 2:59words. Give it a think for just a few minutes.
- 3:02Okay, let's start off with commitments or compliance.
- 3:09What does commitment mean?
- 3:10Commitment means in the world of an advocate or the world of anybody who is serious about
- 3:16what they do. You commit to doing something.
- 3:21You commit to carrying out something.
- 3:25You commit to saying, I'm going to do this and you do it.
- 3:30It is a proactive word.
- 3:34On the other hand, compliance means, well, you just comply.
- 3:39You just follow the leader.
- 3:41You're the sheep following the shepherd.
- 3:44You know, you prefer to just simply react, not proact.
- 3:50So again, commitment means proactive.
- 3:55Compliance means reacting.
- 3:59And as an advocate, you're often, often being called upon to decide whether
- 4:05you're going to admit to commit to something or you're going to comply with something.
- 4:13Now, does commitment necessarily mean complying?
- 4:19And I don't think so. Commit is again, proactive.
- 4:25Comply is reactive. You comply without really thinking about it.
- 4:31You comply with saying, oh, I'm just going to do as I'm asked to do.
- 4:36Commit is going a step further and saying, I'm not just going to comply,
- 4:43I'm going to go out there and I am going to commit to a specific action.
- 4:51So here we go. Complete commitment or compliance.
- 4:58That is my interpretation of these two words.
- 5:03Okay. Here it comes for the second pair of words,
- 5:09an afterthought or a for thought.
- 5:14In my humble opinion, an afterthought is this if you only do
- 5:20something after everything else has been done.
- 5:25And this can apply to anything in our lives.
- 5:29An afterthought could be, well, you know, I'm invited to this birthday
- 5:34party and I'm going to go and I'm going to have a good time.
- 5:38That is your first mindset.
- 5:41But then you think, oh heck, I should probably take a gift along with me.
- 5:46That is an afterthought.
- 5:48That, or an afterthought would probably apply to website developers and designers when they
- 5:56develop a website. And then they say, oh, oh,
- 6:02oh, maybe I should put in some accessibility features.
- 6:05Maybe I should deal with accessibility.
- 6:07That is an afterthought.
- 6:11Same for management. You know, they develop these wonderful accessibility
- 6:16not accessibility plans, but these plans to move forward for the next
- 6:20year or two. And then they say, oh, we have employees who are,
- 6:30are employees with a disability.
- 6:33So maybe I, I should be putting in some thought into how they would fit into the
- 6:43plan. Right? That is an afterthought because it was not thought of while the main plan was
- 6:51being developed. That is an afterthought.
- 6:56That is sort of a delayed Late reaction or just simply saying,
- 7:01oh yeah, you know, I should put this in or I should do this after the main body of the
- 7:07plan has been developed.
- 7:10Whereas on the other hand, a forethought is including what should be
- 7:17done or what must be done, or what ought to be done during the main
- 7:24planning of your project.
- 7:26Okay. An afterthought is a delayed thought.
- 7:30A fourth thought, again, is being proactive.
- 7:35This is my humble opinion.
- 7:37Okay. A delayed reaction is an afterthought.
- 7:42A proactive action is a forethought.
- 7:46And this applies to almost anything in our daily lives.
- 7:51Okay. So there you go.
- 7:53Not just as an advocate, but as a person yourself.
- 7:57Okay. Now, I want to go on to the stories that were submitted to us this month,
- 8:04and they're interesting stories.
- 8:07Here is the first story.
- 8:11Wheelchair parking being abused.
- 8:15Okay, so what does that really mean?
- 8:22In my books, wheelchair parking being abused is when someone who really,
- 8:28really is not using a wheelchair or who does not need a wheelchair,
- 8:34just simply motoring in to the parking space designated for wheelchairs,
- 8:42and they don't care. They just get out of their cars and walk to their locations.
- 8:48That is wheelchair parking abuse.
- 8:52Okay, that's what I think.
- 8:56And you see that all the time.
- 8:59You go to a mall and you see people going into these wheelchair parking spots.
- 9:06They get out of their car and they literally run to the building.
- 9:13They don't even have a wheelchair.
- 9:15And in order for us to deal with this in a very meaningful manner.
- 9:21Okay. What is advocacy in this in this situation is when we start to speak up
- 9:28against those who are abusing wheelchair parking spots and who gets involved.
- 9:35All of us do, not just the person using a wheelchair.
- 9:41It's a matter of of consciousness or conscience or,
- 9:47or doing the right thing of calling those out who are abusing wheelchair parking spots.
- 9:56Why is it necessary? Because we need to speak up.
- 9:59We need to trip those who are abusing the wheelchair parking spots.
- 10:07How do you do that? It's from the ground up.
- 10:11You start building awareness about what's going on.
- 10:15You start attacking the consciences of those who are abusing it,
- 10:21and then you go further up by going to, you know,
- 10:24community members, by going to church members,
- 10:28you know, by deciding if you go to your member of Parliament,
- 10:33you go to your member of Congress, who you go to.
- 10:36It's a long, drawn out thing, but starting from the ground up is the best
- 10:43way to go. Okay. And when do you get involved in advocacy?
- 10:48You get involved in advocacy.
- 10:50In this case, when you honestly feel that your conscience needs to be pacified because
- 10:57you see somebody abusing the wheelchair parking spot.
- 11:04Okay, so this is one of the stories that was sent in to me by a listener who says,
- 11:13you know, they've seen this going on.
- 11:16They want to know what to do.
- 11:18And that's what my piece of advice would be.
- 11:22Okay, here's a second story.
- 11:27Talking elevator not working correctly.
- 11:33And again, this happened to Marisa in her condo building.
- 11:38Marisa is a vision impaired person.
- 11:42And, you know, for many months and even a few years,
- 11:47she was advocating for an elevator to become a talking elevator so that she would know
- 11:53which floor she was on or going to.
- 11:59And she felt that, you know, it would make her life easier and safer if
- 12:07the elevator would talk, as it, you know, went from floor to floor.
- 12:13She approached her management office.
- 12:16And in this case, we had success.
- 12:20The management office agreed with her right away and decided to do something about it.
- 12:26They were proactive. And this is a success story that I really enjoy telling you about,
- 12:33because Marissa and her office management worked together to bring in talking elevators
- 12:43into her condo complex.
- 12:46All right. Good for you, Marissa, and congratulations to you.
- 12:51What is advocacy in this case, advocacy is identifying a need and then
- 12:58deciding to work with others to make this need a reality or to address this need.
- 13:07And who gets involved.
- 13:09Marissa to start with.
- 13:11And then she then goes out there and she decides to talk to her management office
- 13:18about it. Okay. Why is advocacy necessary?
- 13:24Because there is a need to be addressed.
- 13:27Marissa's need to want to have the elevator talk from floor to floor,
- 13:34or as it goes, from floor to floor.
- 13:37Okay. How does one get involved in advocacy again?
- 13:42It's about Marissa and her management office working together to make this happen.
- 13:49And when do you get involved in advocacy?
- 13:52Again, it's all about when you think a need needs to be addressed.
- 13:59You identify the need you want, the need to be addressed.
- 14:03You think it's a legitimate need or requirement?
- 14:08Okay. Congratulations, Marissa.
- 14:12Here's a third story that was sent in to us.
- 14:16All right. A person with a service dog denied at a restaurant.
- 14:27This, unfortunately, is a very, very common problem.
- 14:33And it may all boil down to the fact that owners of a restaurant may come from a
- 14:41culture, may come from a culture where dogs are not dealt with in ways that they are
- 14:51in North America and Europe.
- 14:53And I'm not identifying any specific culture.
- 14:57I'm just saying that because of a culture difference.
- 15:01So in this case, Chris was denied access to a restaurant.
- 15:07He went to a restaurant to enjoy a meal with some friends.
- 15:12The friends were waiting for him.
- 15:15But when he got to the restaurant, they would not let him in.
- 15:19When he asked why, he was told, well, you have a dog and we don't,
- 15:24you know dogs are not admitted to this restaurant.
- 15:29His friends were watching for him and saw what was going on,
- 15:35and they all got up in unison and came to the front to support Chris.
- 15:42It was a bit messy because the you know, the owners kept saying,
- 15:46we're not letting him in.
- 15:48And the friend saying it is his right to be let in because this country has laws against
- 15:58Not being let into a restaurant because of a service dog or a guide dog.
- 16:03Okay, so there was a bit of a shouting match,
- 16:07and eventually, thank goodness, the owners decided that they would comply
- 16:14with Chris's request to have him and his dog enter into the restaurant.
- 16:21Okay. Unfortunately, the police had to be called because the owners would not back down
- 16:29and Chris, Chris and his friends would also not back down.
- 16:33The police came and using their.
- 16:37I wouldn't say their tactics, but using the methods that they were trained
- 16:41to use, were able to get the owners to comply with the request to let Chris enter the
- 16:50restaurant with his dog.
- 16:52Okay, so what is advocacy here?
- 16:57Advocacy here is standing up for your rights.
- 17:00Chris standing up for his rights and his friends supporting him because it is his
- 17:08right, or was his right to be able to enter that restaurant with his dog,
- 17:15his dog being a guide dog or a service dog?
- 17:18Okay, Chris was vision impaired, so him and his dog had to be,
- 17:29you know, they were not to be denied entry into the restaurant.
- 17:32They had to be, you know, their rights had to be adhered to.
- 17:39Okay, this is Canada and those are the those are the laws and the rules.
- 17:46And who gets involved in advocacy, Chris, to start with and then his friends.
- 17:52So it was a combined effort.
- 17:56Why is it necessary? Because Chris was being denied entry into this particular restaurant.
- 18:03This is why advocacy was necessary in this instance.
- 18:09How do you get involved in advocacy again?
- 18:12It's a matter of combined efforts on the part of those involved and not backing down.
- 18:20If you know that your rights are being infringed upon.
- 18:25When do you do it? When it directly affects you.
- 18:30Okay. All right. This is it for me.
- 18:34For this month, I am Donna J.
- 18:36Jordan. With this particular feature, ask advocate.
- 18:41Donna. Please write to me with your story, and I would be pleased to talk about it,
- 18:49discuss it, and share it with our listeners.
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- 19:22Again, Donna jordan@gmail.com, and that's spelled DONNAJODHAN.
- 19:33Thank you very much for listening in.
- 19:35Take care and see you again soon.
- 19:42Podcast Commentator: Donna wants to hear from you and invites you to write to her at Donna jordan@gmail.com.
- 19:48Until next time.