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- Carter Creepington: Welcome back to Cart Creeps. On this episode, we'll be talking about space station Silicon Valley for the N64. If you want to get on the in on the action and discuss next month's game, which we don't know what it is yet, we'll find out here in a you know a few minutes. ⁓ join our Discord and play along. ⁓ we'll have the link listed down below in the YouTube description, and also we'll have it in Spotify as well and anywhere else that you'd be listening. By the way, Keith didn't finish. Everyone else finished. ⁓ I'm Ryan, and we also have Gabriel, the all knowing fool. Yeah, okay, buddy. It's Jay. It's Keith too. Yeah, okay, buddy. Yeah. I'm actually Keith. This is ⁓ our sixth episode so far, so that marks ⁓ half a year of playing old games together and talking about ⁓ This one might be a little divisive, I think. Some of us seem to enjoy this more than our best game, Space Station Silicone Valley. This is a bad bit. This is a stupid bit. This is the worst bit that you've done in The greatest game. He never commits before, so now he's committing, so this is good. Yeah, I wish you would have committed to something else that was f funny and not annoying. You know, most podcasts don't even make it past episode six, and now this will be the thing that kills us. Yeah. This will be the thing that saves us. Space station, Silicon Valley. Stop saying silicone. It's not silicone, it's silicon. There's no E. It's not the like, you know, th goop or whatever stuff. It's silicon is in like Silicon Valley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Silicon Valley like the place in California, I guess. In the space station. N sixty four, nineteen ninety eight games. Not a hit game. Silicon Valley. Not a hidden game. Hidden Gym game. I don't I you know, I was this was gonna come up, the hidden gem thing. And I disagree. I don't think it's a hidden gem. I think it's as you know, receiv well received as it deserves. It's not a hidden gem. I think it's a hidden turd. You know what it is a hidden gem. Is Wario Land, Super Mario Land three, which is what I've been playing this month besides space station Silicon Valley. Which is the greatest game ever made. Stop saying silicone. It's programmed that way. In the Doom the last episode, you guys also kept saying kept saying ultraviolet and it's ultraviolent. Wait, now I'm confusing myself. It's ultraviolet. Which one is it? Which one is it human? Doesn't even fucking know. Ultraviolet. Make up your mind. You guys kept saying ultraviolet, but it's ultraviolet. So ⁓ I've also been playing ⁓ Wireware or I was playing Wireware earlier in Thank you, Retro Handheld. Yeah, one of their game of the months for this one. Give us money. ⁓ I I don't think they did. We could be the first. We could the first. They ⁓ I don't know what the other two games are, but that's the one I picked out because I was like I've played Wario Land War four before for that's a GBA one. That was a pi a past game of the month. That one is really fun. This is a Game Boy one, original Game Boy. ⁓ so you get to have your use your cool like re you know, shader things on ⁓ retro arch to make it look cool colors and not just be or you could just play it as white. Yo it's two Castlevanias. ⁓ Circle of the Moon and Dawn of Sorrow. That's funny. Castlevania maybe we'll get a Castlevania game this time because I there's one still on our list. ⁓ maybe maybe this is the only yeah that's the only other game I've played this month is Wario. I started playing it earlier in the month and that 'cause I was kinda putting I started playing Silicon Valley and I was like, ⁓ this game's okay. I put it off for a little bit and ⁓ played some Mario wear. ⁓ or sorry, Wario Land. It's actually super it's Wario Land, Super Mario Land three. Super Mario Land three Wario Land, which I guess is the first Wario Land ⁓ game. And it's fun. It's a cool little Yeah, it's a blast. I liked it a lot. I saw people said they didn't like it, but I d I I don't know. I had a lot of fun running around that stinky little man. Yeah. It reminds me of Kirby. Yeah, stinky Big Man. The K I played a Kirby platformer, the Game Boy one. I don't remember which one it was. It's Maybe the second one. ⁓ similar feels similar to playing land. Those yeah, those are both ⁓ it's both of them are good. This Mario Land and also the Kirby game. They're both worth playing. Unlike this game, this game's not worth playing. That's a lie. Spoilers spoilers. ⁓ Keith, what have you Don't trust the dirty human. What have you been playing besides this? ⁓ besides this, I've also been playing ⁓ this guy doesn't even play games. That's right. I don't. I'm a fake, I'm a fake gamer, everybody. Sorry to let you all Five being kicked off the podcast. I'm still going through with my ⁓ Resident Evil playthrough. I'm on Code Veronica now. And I'm really glad that allegedly there's gonna be a remake of Code Veronica coming out. Because I would say this game is not as good as Wasn't there already a remake of Code Veronica? Didn't they not have Code Veronica? Well didn't they redo it on the GameCube, maybe? Yeah, slash PS two. Yeah, it's called Code Veronica X. ⁓ which added some extra stuff, but it's basically the same game. but no, they're allegedly there's like remaster then? Yeah. Kind of, I guess. Yeah, remaster. Yeah. It's like some added some added cutscenes, right? ⁓ so allegedly there's gonna be a remake coming out soon. ⁓ Capcom's been cranking these fucking things out. Yeah, they have announced yeah. They announced nine last year and then it came out this year. So it's like I mean, we'll see. What happens ⁓ when the next for each It seems to all be quality content too. Like I haven't played any of these remakes, but I know people that haven't, like every single one seems to be like well received, which is unbelievable. All amazing. And the new mainline games are also quality too. Yeah, Capcom's doing pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, they really try to be a Capcom fan ⁓ Pragmata recently too. Pragmata. Yeah. Yep, that was good too. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people like that. Yeah, I haven't played. I don't play new games. Yeah, I don't I don't really play new games either. Yeah, we don't really we don't do that. We only play amazing games like Space Station, Silicone Valley. Yeah, I went to a fighting game tournament over the weekend and ⁓ Did you lose? Yes, technically. I I entered I entered two tournaments. I got second in one, got seventh in the other one. So you know, hey, I you know what they say about second place? It's first leader. You you did all that competing all day just to still lose. Number one loser, Keith. Cut cut that. Cut that last name. Yeah, don't don't do don't dox me, bro. ⁓ yeah, sorry. How dare you? Ignore the wooden sword in the back that has my last name on it. I can't remember. Yeah, you're right. No, I can. It's there. ⁓ yeah, I see it. But the ⁓ whole name. Yeah, so but yeah, that's been fun. And then and then ⁓ yeah, that's been my gaming time, pretty much. What about you, Jay? What are you playing? ⁓ you've been playing Wario too? No, not not this month. I would like to play that one day. No, I've been playing it's not a ROM hack, but ⁓ it all those following our socials might have seen a couple of reels. I've been playing Pokemon Infinite Fusion, which is This like I guess it's a whole community made game. It's made out of RPG Maker. So it's not a ROM hack specifically, it's its own engine type thing. But you can literally like fuse any Pokemon with any other Pokemon. And it like combines their movesets. ⁓ you can choose which ability over the two. So you can like make some really cracked mons ⁓ and just like cool looking ones. I've been trying to make an evil team. And that's been a good I She loves evil. It can see it on our instance. We can always be sick. Yeah. It did evolve into the Gengar and it looks less cool. But it's it's it's really strong, so it's like I'm gonna continually, you know, just fuse my whole way through the game. I just caught ⁓ both the Snorlaxes. It takes place in Kanto, so you're playing like the base Kanto story. And there's extra stuff added in there. ⁓ but yeah, I'm excited to Just see what I can make out of those Snorlaxes. Even if I don't keep yeah. Milk Milkwax. Make a milklax. You can. So you can fuse two of the same Pokemon together and it will make there are like drawings. Mutated feeling. Yeah, of or like ultimate versions of that. So all of the sprites are made by individual people. And like whenever you get the new evolution, it tells you the artists who made the sprite under it. ⁓ it's pretty neat. That's pretty crazy. That's cool. Tons of art. Snore snore is what I do when we talk about anything but space station Silicone Valley. Do you not know that were those those are two different words? This is a good bit, actually. I like this. Before I move on, I just want to mention this game has over two hundred fifty one thousand and one unique standard fusion combination. That's crazy. Pretty wild for It's funny because when you do do the random fusions, it has a dex number for everyone. So it'll be like, and this is Pokemon, you know, like 19,011. It's pretty neat. And some of them have unique Pokedex entries, some don't, but a lot of them do. And it's pretty fun just seeing all the love that winner's. Really have to catch them all. I was able to Download it pretty well on my Steam Deck and get it running pretty easily. I did look up a YouTube tutorial, but it was like seven minutes long. Not a big download. So if you know, anyone who wants to try it out, there's probably a way to play it on your handheld emulation devices. Nice. What generations does it cover? ⁓ so you play in Kanto, but it has at least through gen eight of all the Pokemon. Yeah. So it's got ⁓ all. ⁓ it might have gen nine. ⁓ but at least gen eight. That's cool. I wasn't expecting that. That's nuts. Yeah, it's it's wild. I thought like one and two. Maybe three. And it has like all it has a ton of features from like all the future games. Like there's a pokey radar in it, so you can like go to each route and find hidden Pokemon like from future gens in the Kanto routes. It's it's really cool actually. Nice. All right. Well talk about this this month's game, Space Station Silicon Valley. ⁓ ⁓ yeah, is that what it is? Yeah. ⁓ according to my database. A quick quick rundown ⁓ on how it gets these games get picked if you're not aware. Every month we ⁓ roll our creep wheel and it randomly tells us which game to play for the next month. One of the ways that ⁓ you can you can actually get your own game added onto the wheel if you'd like. Just check it out. Check out our Patreon to see how to do that. ⁓ the other way a game gets added. Going forward, ⁓ Jay's game will be replaced by a game that was voted on by our members or Patreon members as well. So we'll talk about that one later when we get to the rolling of the wheel. Jay, do you want to introduce us to this game and why you picked it? Yeah, so Space Station Silicon Valley is an N sixty four game made in nineteen ninety eight. For those on YouTube, here's a nice little look at the cartridge here. It was made by Take two or was published by Take Two, which I think it was one of their first games, if not the first game they did, which I find very interesting. ⁓ they did other franchises like Bioshock, Borderlands, GTA, Mafia, they have their hands and all that. ⁓ else is interesting is the other company that helped produce it, which was DMA Design, which did Grand Theft Auto is a big thing, and then Lemmings, ⁓ which I Heard a lot of people talk lemmings would be interested to try it and but I've heard that's a fun game. I I'd hate to interrupt, but it's just it's crazy that the studios that made this made this. Yeah. just looking for like a Nintendo sixty four game that isn't like the staple that you hear of, 'cause like it's a pretty limited library ⁓ and you We've all heard of like Super Mario, Legend of Zelda, ⁓ Donkey Kong sixty four, you know, all of the Star Fox, you know, every Nintendo franchise. And ⁓ this one seemed like it would be a cool kind of, you know, hidden gem of a game. One that maybe not everyone has heard of. And when I heard about the premise of the gameplay loop, I was pretty like interested in it. ⁓ So you're you play as a microchip, ⁓ as you can see on Gabe's head. That's that's the bit. That's the bit, fellas. but you basically take over like these animal robots and each other. Bravest little hero. It's kind of like Cappy in Super Mario Odyssey. You just take over random characters and they all have different powers and you traverse your way through levels. And I just thought that was a neat concept, so that is why I chose the game. And I guess we'll get into what the game is actually like here pretty shortly. Yeah. Wow. Mario stole this idea. No original games and gaming anymore. It's a shame. Yeah. My expectation going into this, I had heard of it, I don't really know where from. Maybe when I got into retro gaming, I had come across it as maybe maybe as a hidden gem or something in some list or something like that. ⁓ I didn't really know anything about it and I only briefly looked it up when Jay had put it on. ⁓ the list and when Jay explained it is like Mario Odyssey, but you know, nineteen ninety eight. I was like, okay, you know, yeah. The old yeah. Like it maybe it'll be fun. ⁓ but that's but that was there. Yeah, that was my only ⁓ like I'd never heard of it until getting into this sphere of retro gaming. I had never like had any, you know, didn't know it existed at all. But I don't I think I'm I think everyone else is the same way. Probably right. You guys had only heard about it through either Jay picking it or Jay you'd heard about it probably the same way. Yes, I've always known about space station Silicon Valley. ⁓ Yeah, I I didn't hear I didn't know that this existed until Jay brought it up. Because you know, like N sixty four, I just played like, you know, Super Mario, WrestleMania, two thousand, no mercy, Goldeneye, you know, the classics, those kind of things, Super Smash Bros., Mario. A lot of classics to be fair. Exactly, exactly. So this is when one of those things kinda gets buried underneath the kind of mountain of just other Classic games that you played as a kid that you just never heard of. And maybe you didn't hear it for a reason because maybe. My ⁓ yeah, my expectations were decently high because I just figured Super Mario Sixty Four was pretty good. And pretty good Mario Odyssey. ⁓ Presumably a soup old Super Mario Odyssey type game on the sixty four should be pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And it was the idea of like a three D puzzle platformer sounds really fun. always on the N sixty four in theory. Yeah. But some games are made different than others. And they hit three D and then everything had to be turning the camera around slowly, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's one thing. I think people that played this as children, or I guess You're dumb too. I think if you played it before, you probably have a nostalgia for this. And I think you're probably an astronaut or a physicist now. Having ⁓ nostalgia for this type of game makes a lot of sense and why I think that's why this game would appeal to people. ⁓ so if you want to try it out, that's fine. But if you listen to this podcast, I I my thesis is that you don't need to try it because it's not that good. But I mean, maybe I'm like maybe I'm gonna make people mad. But that have played this and did think it was cool. But I like I mean the like the three old school old school three D games, like some of the first three D games, right? We have PlayStation One and N sixty four and like Spyro games on PS one are great. All of them are good. ⁓ and this game like reminds me of that in a way. It's like the way kind of the way it looks. I mean Spyro looks better, I think, graphically. ⁓ textures and like just the artistic direction of it. But No Spyro looks like shit. So I think it's fair to have kill this robot for like this kind of game, but I don't think that you can prop to get this is a like later in the episode thesis. We can just get into it now. Ryan wanted to jump into Hedrick, get immediately get all the Let's talk how we played this wonderful game. I think ⁓ yeah let's all get into how we played it because yeah we all played on the Steam different experiences we all had. We all played on the Steam Deck except for Keith. ⁓ I could have played on my Retroid Pocket Three, but I didn't. ⁓ back on this back. I could have played the actual physical cart, but ⁓ by the time it came in the mail, I was like so there's thirty one levels in this game, and I was probably at level thirteen when this came in the mail, and I was far enough in the game to know that I didn't want to start it over and play it like physically on the cart, 'cause I really loved the save stating in this game. Like you absolutely needed it at parts I feel like. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And ⁓ so I was back on the R 30 R 36S. 36S. I was gonna say RX 78, but that's the gun mobile that's the Gundam. That's not right. That's not right. So I played on this and I had a fun experience playing this game on this because I wasn't sure. I thought this game made a lot of weird design and creative decisions about level design and ⁓ So you could actually on this for I guess it's the either the ⁓ the way I played it or the emulator itself or the machine itself, ⁓ for some reason I was just seeing like the pickups through walls and just everything there was like no no I guess like real like barriers or anything. I don't know. It was very weird. ⁓ I'll send Brian some pictures and he can he could take the pictures of what I saw. And also whenever I left the level, there was like a weird glitch, visual glitch with the guy in the spaceship ⁓ having weird multiple versions of himself. ⁓ and I thought, wow, this is a what an odd game. What a this is a funky little game. What what little funky little decisions are they doing here? Okay. I I'm on board. Then it turned out I just watched the playthrough later. It like, ⁓ this is groovy, man. Wacky game. Whoa. Space stations. Whoa. So yeah, I had a fun time. Yeah, you were pushing the hardware ⁓ limitations of that device. Those things are usually like you can play Most PS one games and you can play some min sixty four games on those, but ⁓ you might yeah, you obviously experienced some ⁓ performance issues trying to play something like that. It might have exploded if I pushed it even. It is simply too powerful of a game. ⁓ I will say we That makes sense. I think the rest of us had some minor emulation ⁓ issues with like screen size thing. It was weird. I it we we all I think we all played it through retro arc. on the Steam Deck instead of using a standalone emulator, which is probably not the best I best choice, but I didn't feel like setting up another emulator when I already had Retro Arch set up on the Steam Deck. I mean I think I I it's there in ⁓ emu deck emu deck. ⁓ I just didn't I already put it in there. So I like I think Gabe and Jay we had the same problem where like it was trying to widescreen visible like four three. You had to you couldn't widescreen hacks didn't work 'cause it's like this game's pretty unknown like even I don't know if you guys looked up guides for the levels but there's some that don't it like don't exist even on the wiki for the game because then we're never bothered to finish like they stop at around ⁓ halfway through the the ice no the jungle at the end of the jungle I think maybe all the jungle ones are on there but the desert levels are not all they're not there's not a guide for all of them. There is ⁓ there's I think there is I I found one guide that had every single level. Nice. ⁓ I didn't look up think about looking up an actual guide. I just looked I just would like Google Silicon Valley and then the level name and I was looking at the wiki. ⁓ but yeah, the screen like could there's no widescreen hack, at least not working in Retro Arch. ⁓ and then like so you're playing it on Ford Three inside of the Steam Deck's sixteen by ten. So you got the big black bars on the side, but it's like the game, you know, in old games, they didn't expect you to be looking beyond the screen. So but sometimes there are artifacts on the sides of the screen that you normally wouldn't be able to see. So a lot of times I would we I think all three of us got like s artifacts on the side of the screens where it's either a random color or part of the start menu, the pause menu sitting out over there, which wasn't that annoying. Like we dealt with it. But other than that, I don't think there was any other problems with like the emulation. Yeah, after the initial shock of seeing that, I just kind of like was like, Okay, whatever. Yeah, you just play through it. It doesn't affect the gameplay, but The horse levels are to get like bright blue bars. And it it would be a little bright. But it is what it is. My eyes. Yeah. Save states though, and then this happened to all I think all three of us on the Steam Deck. Save states would sometimes break the in the game and you'd have to reset the game. Which thankfully the game automatically saves after every level you complete. So you just have to restart the level by thank God. Because I w if I had lost like all of it, I would not have I would have stopped. The first time it happened to me I had a safe state crash, I was on level like eighteen. Yeah. And there was no way I was gonna start over if like that was I was I was laid into it. Yeah. That was the same I was I was like, if if I hadn't restarted the game and like gone back through and seen that, like, ⁓ it's saved for me, I would have messaged you guys with I'm I'm not just I thought it would be like I thought it would do that on the Steam Deck, 'cause the Steam Deck's really good at like If a game auto saves, the Steam Deck will auto save where they can autosave. ⁓ which is really cool. And luckily that that that happened here. ⁓ I guess a lot of N sixty four games do that just because they're cartridge based still. Yeah. So you'll have that autosave after level feature type thing. Yeah. I thought it was weird that it didn't happen. It didn't happen to me early on. It was later, like you guys said. And then it started It was later for me too. Yeah. Like it started out it happened once. And then it seemed like it happened a lot more frequently. It happened at least five or six times with me. Probably I only had it happen twice, but it was like late in the game and then it happened like twice, like w the first time happening and then like probably Yeah, and I'm like ⁓ like within another hour of like playing. Especially when I'm like halfway through the level. I'm like halfway through that level already. And it I don't know if it was it the same for you guys, like it wasn't the saving, it was the loading. You're trying to load a state. Yeah. And then it hangs and it's yeah. You could keep loading it and it would it would just never load and you could reset the console like doing, you know, through retro arch doing the reset, like heart, you know, emulation reset, and then try to load it again and it doesn't work. It still this hangs up at the the menu start or the first screen you see. So yeah, you just have to re go back into your save file and find where you were on the stupid wheel, which is a terrible way to do like Yeah, you know. navigation of levels. Yeah. But I did I use save states a lot. Especially because the platforming in this game isn't that smooth. Why would a wheel not be the perfect way? Yeah. The platform present levels. There's a lot of platforming in this game. We can get into that in just a second. But I that's man my main reason is like I'm about to have to jump up across a bunch of stuff. And I know I'm not going to make it and won't go. So I'm going to save state. And then maybe save state multiple times throughout the the The platforms e every platform I'm gonna make a save state because it's I'm gonna fall. And then have to go all the way back around or I have to like it's like the game punishes you a lot of times with falling off of something because you have to go way back around to get back to where you were. For me, it was ⁓ anytime the vines with the monkey, I like safe stated that every time because it's just like yeah. That was a double. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it wasn't multiple levels. Like at least two or three times. Yeah, it's not a ton of use. But yeah, we can get into the game now. We'll talk first we'll talk about the story, which there is a story. There's not a lot to the story. The story is that you are Evo, the microchip thing. ⁓ it's like a little mic like the one that Gabe has on his head. It's just a little black wonderful protagonist ever created. It's just like a a chip and then it has eyes on it. And you can walk around as the chip, but you don't want to because you start dying immediately, you start taking damage. So you never really spend any time as just the microchip. ⁓ the story is like it's like in the future or something and like I don't it doesn't they like launched a space station out space station Silicon Valley. Silicone Valley Silicon Valley and Silicon Valley the first time. Yep. and I guess it got taken over by some evil brain or something, and it's like coming back to Earth and you play a hero duo, which turns out is just a guy and his robot who actually does all the work. The robot's Evo. When you crash into you go are sent to retake space station Silicone Valley, but you crash into it. And when you crash, Evo's body is destroyed, or at least blown apart into pieces, because later you collect the pieces to remake Evo in the last level. ⁓ and so because you're scattered everywhere, the only thing that's left of you is like I guess the brain of him, which is the microchip, and that microchip can attach to robotic animals which inhabit space station Silicone Valley and then use them to make your way through the level from there. And you're just trying to Yeah, it the your boss is giving you like random tasks. I don't know that any of them have to do with actually I think it's just making your way through space station Silicon Valley, but then he'll also be like, Hey, kill those kangaroos. I hate them. Yeah. Because there's ⁓ the game has a lot of like comedy elements to it. I mean a lot of it's like either Yeah, I I mean a lot of it's either toilet humor or like just stupid humor. I mean I I thought it was funny. I didn't think it was funny at all. Like maybe for nineteen ninety eight it would have been funny. Maybe. I mean as a kid it was probably funny. It's kind of charm like that I probably thought it was f I w probably would have been pissing my pants laughing as a child. Yeah. Your your the the your Dan? Is it Dan? I don't I couldn't remember. I also the brain mentioned until you see it at the end. I don't remember it. Maybe it was a opening cutscene. I know I remember them saying anything about a big brain though in that. I don't Yeah, I don't think Yeah, I don't know. I just know that the space station's coming back and it I don't know if it's on a collision course for Earth and they're worried about that or I don't know. That is what we're My brush was also fucked, so I don't know like what I was missing and what was that what I wasn't. So they're one with the collectibles. They're just sent to investigate. That's it. Yeah. ⁓ there's so there's four zone distinct zones in the game. There's Europe, which is the first zone. For some reason it's it's called Europe. Space Europe, Europe. There's Europe. It's funny, it's like ice scrub. Europe, ice, jungle, and desert. And there's a certain they're not there's not the same amount of levels in each one. It's I think Europe and desert might have the most. I think jungle has the least. ⁓ they are distinct enough zones that they feel different. And I do appreciate that they're not all specifically like all ice levels are ice levels. Some of the ice levels are water levels, which is cool. And some of the jungle levels, ⁓ there's like lava and then one of the poop levels is poop. Sewer. Yeah, there's a sewer level. The yeah, poop jungle. Yeah. The funniest thing about humans is that's the good stuff right there, baby. Yeah. As far as the art, ⁓ I've kind of mentioned it before. it's like it's, you know, early three D animation, like early three D art. And it's okay. It's not I don't love it. I don't love like it's cohesive. It all makes sense together, I think. It's goofy looking. Some of the animals are pretty funny. ⁓ especially like the tank ⁓ Bears, those are pretty funny. And rocket dog and all that stuff. We can talk about I have I do have a section talking about our favorite animals and stuff. The the textures are terrible. Like the level textures, they're they look terrible. And they're I don't know, like the the environments, there's always that that's that's what Europe looks like. Yeah. What are you talking about? There's a huge like black wall as the barrier for like you can't go past it, right? It's like the the I guess it's the glass dome, like the glass, actual glass of the space station itself, I think. Yeah. And it can see a reflection in it. But it only reflects you. Because it reflects animals in it. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Nothing else. ⁓ yeah, another animal. So it doesn't reflect like the scenery. Yeah. Well, it's nine it's nineteen ninety eight and then sixty four. I guess it's fine. ⁓ yeah, I mean, what do you guys think about the yeah, I think most of the most of the character designs are Yeah, most of the character designs are like either funny or at least okay, I kinda see what they're going for here. I don't like dislike the arc. Like you said, the actual textures and everything kinda suck. I mean I mean, they're great. But Yeah, I could I could see through walls, so Yeah. I enjoyed the classic N sixty four color palette. Like it was very colorful. I thought I thought the levels themselves were fun. Like I just wish the accompanying gameplay was more exciting. But I do like all the different levels ⁓ and the different animals. I did like as well that they they continually introduced new different types of animals throughout the whole game. Like even in the last couple levels you were getting animals that we haven't seen before, which good for them for like giving us that. Yeah. There's a lot of options in there. Yeah. To be clear, like the way the game actually works is ⁓ Each level has a list of tasks to do to finish it and opens a teleport. You start on a teleporter, you teleport in, and there's a teleporter that teleports you out. And there's a list of tasks you have to do to get the teleporter to open, then you leave. And it's it's a puzzle. Like it's all puzzle levels. It's like there's no open worldness. I mean it's an open map, but and you can do stuff in different order, but there's usually a there's a correct order. That's kind of how it works. Like you can't get to this part until you do this with this animal or whatever. ⁓ and each animal has its own it usually has two like things it does like ⁓ shooting missiles and a boost for the rocket dog or something like that or the kangaroo punches and jumps high. ⁓ and there are you can glide. Yeah, there's a lot of animals. ⁓ there's some of them that are basically do the exact same thing as others. Most of the birds kind of do the same thing as all the other birds suffer the vulture that's kind of fly unique. ⁓ vulture flies and picks up. Picks stuff up. Yeah. And it also hard to figure that out. I know, I have the rats shit. Yeah, the rats there's a couple animals that poop and it's like little landmines, which is mostly useless. Things you would normally expect real animals to do. Yeah. The pooping thing is mostly useless, except for the rat level, fighting those foxes, that one. The ratomatic level, the one that Gabe you had a problem with. That one you do need to use the poop to like kill all the ⁓ the foxes because yeah. But yeah, there's there's a ton of There's a ton of ⁓ like animals to play as. Not all some of them are I would say some of them are totally useless and not. Some of them and you don't like you encounter, you don't ever have to use them, I think. And it's quite a few levels, especially later on. There's some animals you just they're there, but you don't need to do anything with them. Sometimes you have to kill ⁓ But like so like the scorpions and stuff in the later levels, they're just annoying. ⁓ there is one section and you actually turn you turn to a scorpion 'cause it goes into a small area. That's the only reason you have to use it. And there's like Lizards. I think the lizards never get really used. Yeah, like they're a thing but you don't have use ⁓ I love you mentioned the scorpions thing and they like how you can only get into that some tiny crevices and symbols of the scorpion. I wish they did more of that 'cause you they give you that at the beginning there's a rat level ⁓ where you can you find seekers with the rat, but they don't really do much of that. ⁓ they could have been more creative with the levels. I know it's like so level based puzzle game. But that said they could have done more with it. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Give you more options on how to beat it with all the animals in there. That's something, yeah, that worth talking about in the yeah, in the gameplay. Something it might be missing is just like that lack of collectaphoning. You know, you're doing the tasks, but like and you're getting the orbs, but why are you even getting the orbs? You don't yeah, I was gonna say there's orbs in every level and they don't do anything but give you a score and the score doesn't do anything. You do nothing with it. It's just a high score for you to have yourself personally, I guess. I just ignored them almost all the time. I got to a point what more do you need? Where I did start ignoring them. But I did try to collect ⁓ like when I saw ⁓ for most of the game. And then like there's just there's no satisfaction out of it. Like it doesn't amount to anything. It doesn't mean anything. They're just there. Yeah. Have to be I think the game talk real about the game now. Holy shit. No, Jay, you're right. Thanks. Everything everything they everything that was cool about the game wasn't done enough. Like that's one of the big problems with it. Getting ahead of our little exploring things. We'll talk about that in just a second. There you are. Last thing we need to really talk about is is the music and the sounds and stuff. ⁓ music is fine. It's fine. It's it's it's fun around. It's like this classic goofy Nintendo sixty four too music. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That is pretty good. I do like that too. ⁓ Yeah. I like that jingle. Yeah, I like that one. I don't know. I don't know if this belongs here or not, but ⁓ I like the ⁓ the piano level with the penguin. Yeah. Like that was if something else that's funny about the game too, so Through each level there's radios, like I guess stereo systems throughout the level, like different ones. And ⁓ if you blow up like one of the stereos, ⁓ the music in your the level music in your immediate vicinity will just like disappear. So the music is indeed like actually coming through these ⁓ speaker systems. And there's actually a level towards the end where ⁓ your companion's like My head hurts. Turn off that loud music and you have to destroy the speaker systems. Yeah. You have to destroy all the speakers. So they eventually like bring attention to Because the guy has a headache. It's funny. Yeah, I it's stuff like that that I'm like, that's funny. Like the guy like the guy's like I have a headache. Please destroy the speakers. And it's like Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, Ryan, that's funny. Yeah, Ryan. You're not above poop jungle, okay? Quit acting like you're above Yeah. Poop jungle's but the poop jungle level is really annoying, actually. ⁓ that that poop is the deadliest thing in the game, actually. It's just like instant death. I hated that level the most actually. And that's annoying. Maybe if the textures were a little better, you could fucking see where you're going and make it traversable, but I felt like I was just blindly like I would take two steps, safe state, and then like cause you the poop pit And then the traversable path, it looks the same. Like there's no telling a difference where you're gonna fall in a pit or where there's like walkable poop terrain. I I would genuinely just because I think you start as a racing turtle in that section, I would generally just point in a direction and like take off and like just fly out of the best I could. So that's what I did there. I was like, I'm not fucking dealing with this shit. I'm not guessing where I'm supposed to walk. In the fucking shit. Yeah, there's like there are a couple of places in the game sp that that mechanic, if you can call it that, specifically exists where you're just blindly trying to find the path without seeing it. Path, yeah. And like that's not a fun mechanic. It's in the poop level. It's ⁓ it's all in the gent jungle level too. It's specifically the jungle level has that. 'Cause it's the poop level it's funny. Poop level. It's it's a funny thing to say. Poop poop. It's funny. You what I mean? But It's something. It's a but it's a poop level and then there's like a level where you have this like giant pit you're supposed to traverse and there's just like meteors or lava rocks flying up out of it. Yeah. And there's an invisible bridge, which there's no hint to at all that you have to also get across. I did realize there's like a rain switch right there before you cross it. And that's what the rain switch is for. And it does help a little, but you can't make it all the way across really unless you're going really fast. Okay. But ⁓ I just save states. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The only reason I found it out, and I don't know, maybe the maybe I'm not being fair because I I noticed that one of the meteors or whatever it is that popping out of the lava like did pop up and like hit the bridge. Like it collided. It does. That's why they're doing it. I mean that's yeah. It's just it's dumb though. Like you all of a sudden there's this mechanic and it's like what this has not existed yet before, and now there's an invisible Like platforms. Why? Why it is one of those things that happen in old games a lot where it's just like we're not gonna tell you it in anything. You just gotta f fucking figure it out. I mean, yeah, yeah. This game had a lot of that. This game is mostly that. It's like a meme now, right? It's like the over explanation of games at this point. Yeah. I mean I I'm not fine I'm not I'm not fine. I'm not I I don't have a problem with with With like that like just being something that suddenly appears, but like you gotta give me a I don't know, some kind of hint. Give me some yellow paint. I it's a you know come on. Yeah, yeah, a little like a blinking pickup. Yeah. I had to look stuff up multiple times because the game does not hint to you ver in a good way that this is what you're supposed to be doing. Sometimes even the tasks are like so vague. It's like I don't know what that objective means. Yeah. It's like I don't know what you want me to do. It'll be like, Give me one big root toot kapal. Yeah. And it's like, Yeah. What do I do with that? One of the last ones is like get a get away. I need one of those flappy things. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know I guess you're talking about a bird, but like it's not whatever. Like, yeah. I mean, that's part of the humor too, I guess, is that like This guy giving you these objectives is stupid. Yes. Dan's supposed to come across as like an idiot. Yeah. And the only reason he ever gets anything done is because of the robot. Yeah. He's always just moaning and groaning. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's also sleeping, I think, between every he's like wake gets woken up every time you finish a level. Yeah. ⁓ it's just it there's several things that will play, but I think it's completely random, so I don't know if like you only ever got the sleeping one. Because there are s a few different like in-between things, but it's funny to think that you got the exact same like just randomly. Maybe it's based on how long it takes. Maybe because I took two. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe based on the orbs. Maybe that's what the orbs are for. Of course it takes a long time because most of this game is just walking slowly. Uh-huh. So like we have a section about movement and That I mean most of this game is moving around, moving your animal around different places and things, like doing different stuff. There's a lot you don't get you get a lot of like animals that have wheels and rockets and stuff on them, which is cool because it makes it it's a lot faster. reminded me of Digimon after a while. 'Cause you started getting like tank camels and like the like tank camels are really good one. I gotta get my cat. Hang on a second. Rocket. Yeah. I gotta get my cat to show you. You might cut that out, I don't know, but we'll see if he leaves that in. Pretty good. That's funny. Thank you. Thank you. That'll get us clicks. Good shit. Shelly, baby. Most of this game is just yeah, walking around and I mean there's a couple of times you're flying around, but even that's really slow and ⁓ I mean Yeah, the flying is really slow. Fast forwarding, like I did fast forward a decent amount, but it's too usually it's kind of too hard to control, like yeah specifically where you're trying to aim. Because there's platforming in this game. A lot of the game is platforming, which is also it's not good. It's not good platforming. ⁓ it's easy to miss. I don't know if it's because it was fucked, but like when I hit fast forward on this, it just didn't work. Like I kept testing it. It's like It was moving at the same speed, whether it was fast forward or not. That sounds like the issue of how people play at the normal speed. Yeah. Yeah, probably couldn't handle I can't handle fast forwarding, man. Yeah, right. You're asking too much of me. Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's a there's an amount of combat in the game or the game forces you to to do combat. And the combat is pretty hard. I thought I was gonna say combat than I thought. A lot of these animals are like, you know, damage sponges. Like it. Yeah. It That's a lot that's where a lot of my safe states came too, just like safe stating before a combat because I'm not gonna die in like two seconds and start this whole level over. Yeah, start the level over. It is really hard and like it's clunky. The camera sucks. Like the camera sucks the whole time. Yeah. You're fighting the camera the entire game, like every level. ⁓ some levels are better than others, but like Europe is really bad. And also in the game too. Almost the entire game. ⁓ Yes. Yes. Yes. Domasses. Yes. Yes. No, like first couple levels. No, but ⁓ the whole game. It's a whole game. It is a whole game. The first couple levels specifically are like, ⁓ my god, like You can use the left trigger to recenter, but it doesn't really help that much most of the time. And it just puts you back in the same shitty angle the second you let go. Yeah. What you have to do is zoom out. If you want the camera to look a certain work way, you can't like hold it to ⁓ swivel the camera around. You have to flick it each time and it moves in like horrible angles. Yeah. And Super Mario style. We have to hit the C button. Even then sometimes it won't yeah, but Super Mario tracks well. This game does not track well. It has it the way the auto camera works doesn't make any sense. ⁓ I r I remember there's the level where you have to you're jumping down it's in the desert you're and you're a fox and you're jumping across the river and stuff. And I remember thinking that the camera angle on this is dog shit. Like I and I and you can't move it on that part either. I think no this is what you this is how you want to look. This is this is the way you want to to I'm talking about the the log ride. Yeah. I think that was intentional to look like Frogger, but I might be wrong. No. Because it's like directly looking. It wasn't above you. It was for me. Like I I swear it was for me. ⁓ It was directly looking down on me. Mine was angled. Mine looked like Frogger. Mine was completely top down. I I'm about to check this because I remember it's gonna take you twenty minutes to get to that point because the game just takes so long. No, because it's ⁓ it's right at the start of the level. The main issue generally with the camera was for me was just like it seemed like the whole time the camera was looking down on me. Yeah. It's like and you can't see the level in front of you. Exactly. There's a concern with the the camera clipping through the environment. Like the camera will not clip outside of the environment to look at you, but it should just Cut through a wall behind you and let you look it it should just see through the walls. That's the problem is it it force the camera's boxed in the same way you are. Like it will not move beyond the confi confines of the level geometry. And so ever all the time you're just forced into like looking at yourself from the front when you don't like I'm going that way. I don't need to look at Yeah, I'm I don't need to look at my s I don't need to see where I've been. I need to see where I'm freaking going. Yeah, because I better to jump up or something, jump across the water, and of course, water It's deadly for a lot of the animals, but n regardless, it doesn't matter if it's deadly or not. It's really annoying because no matter where you fall into it, there's only one way to get out. And that's another thing I was going to bring up. There's the game, lots of times there's like, you know, platform, there's like different levels of height of platforms you have to traverse, right? And sometimes there's like a little ramp, and the ramp looks even steeper than the actual wall itself, but you can walk up the ramp. You just can't walk up the wall. And when you're in the water, there's only a certain you can only go up the gradual, you know, inclines to get out. And it doesn't make it's not consistent throughout the game. Sometimes the inclines are like more than forty five degrees and you can climb up ⁓ And other times it was like I could just, you know, walk out of the water right here, but you can't. It's like there's this much you can't jump out of the water. That's a different part than I was thinking of. Yeah, I know what Jay's talking about. It's the logs. Yeah, the log ride. Yeah. In the jungle. Where you're going like across the logs in ⁓ then and they're just going I think that's in the jungle. It's jungle. Yeah, okay. No, no, this is what I'm talking about. I thought that's what you're talking about. This is such a dog shit camera angle for me to be trying to traverse those platforms. I want to be able to like look straight down to like like it doesn't the camera's the camera is this big game's like biggest issue. Yeah. I know that's I mean maybe but like it sucks. That first jump you gotta make an angle forward you're not jumping straight across, you're jumping forward towards the camera slightly at a forty five degree angle and it it's easy to miss it. Like I don't and it's force the camera's forcing you to look that way. It's doing it on purpose. It's intentional. I don't know why I said shitty can't move like the camera at that part. They're like I said, they're like, this this is where you need to be looking. And it's like no I actually if I could look a different direction it'd be really helpful. Like Desert Foxes The camera is the skate's biggest enemy. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. That animal you have right there is a good one though. Desert fox, the g the fox with a gun. No, that one's the spinning fox, but the fox with the gun is one of the best ones. Spinning fox sucks. Fox with the gun is cool. ⁓ Fox with gun. Spinning fox is gonna be saying you was America! Woo! Woo! Also, I don't know because all of these I don't want to say it's not a turban, but it's like like some kind of like desert where all of the colonial desert like hat kind of thing, like ⁓ you'd see in Africa, you know, in like World War Two or something. It's like a weird ⁓ no, that one was like the like towel. Drake. Desert Fox, the regular one, the spinning one, doesn't he have one like that? 'Cause The one with the gun has the like the explorer Africa Explorer. Yeah, but it's also just funny 'cause one of the like one of the levels involves like oil and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the one with all the guys with the guns is has oil. Yeah. Yeah. They're like patrolling around the oil field. Like you you can get an achievement for killing all those foxes also, which is like ⁓ I'm not gonna say anything about that, but Yeah. Political commentary. Do with that whatever you think yeah, whatever you think they were trying to say there. In nineteen ninety eight. Yeah. Yeah. Post narrative. Yeah. as far as like we're talking about difficulty again. Noticing. Noticing. I can't I can't imagine playing this game on the original hardware without safe states because like the the poop level is the prime example. Yeah. Like You know how long it would take to reload every time you died falling off a level? Why would they make it like that? It's so ridiculous. Like you it takes like one second. And it it's not just the it's not just that part of that level, but then you get pa let's say you get past that and you get to the monkey swinging part, because that's one of that's also in that level and you fall down and like you can get fall damage and you die from that. You have to go back through the poop part. Yeah. You gotta go back through the shit. Yeah, without fucking try to do the stupid ass vine again. So the game does let you reset the level inside of like the level. You can replay the level, which I did a couple of times randomly, but I I would think, especially with that level, you could probably softlock yourself into being stuck. Like if you're the vine guy, if you like fall in the wrong spot, if you're you're playing as the gorilla that that swings from the vines, you fall in the wrong spot, you might not be able to get back to where you need to go, like at all. That actually did happen to me. I had to restart that intentionally because I did get gives you like a false drop off. But you're not supposed to drop it the first place, you're supposed to drop it the second one. But it intentionally on the magic rope, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because I you know, I safe stated before jumping on the magic vine, and I fell for the stupid trick, but luckily for me I just loaded and didn't fall for it the second time. But like it's By that point I was already frustrated enough that I was like, I'm gonna save state before every part of this weapon level because I was already just like livid at it. And then you get a save state error. Yeah. Yeah. No, I didn't get any save state errors until the desert, which is like the biomes I think we already talked about, but it's Europe Ice Jungle Desert. And I didn't get any save states until the desert. Like that's how late game it was for me. I don't know. It's just this game it's not consistent. That's like the camera's a big problem and it's just consist like the levels are either kind of fun or they suck. They're annoying. Yeah. don't know if I'd say I was having fun at any point. I mean, any of the missile We definitely had fun. Any of the missile Rocketing into other animals as a racing turtle was my favorite part of the game. Yeah. That was pretty funny. Which I didn't I didn't realize you could do that until later 'cause I It's unexplained to you, you just have to figure it out. I realized it immediately 'cause I was like, why would you be able to boost and hide and that's it? And I was like, ⁓ my gosh. And you and then I did it. I like rocketed right into it. I think it was hyena at that point. I was just like, ⁓ hell yeah. I I hate that. So like there are moments in that game where I'm like, Okay, this is this is really fun. There's nuggets of gold in there. Yeah, yeah. That's the thing though, there are like little nuggets of really good quality content and gaming in here, but it's vastly overshadowed by mediocrity and undercooked ideas. ⁓ Yeah, I mean any other rocket shooting animals were cool because you could always you could kill stuff from far away, which is nice. But the half the time you're just forced into an animal that sucks. Like you have to play as an elephant for a significant amount of time and all the elephant can do is shoot water. And it like it's a distance weapon but it doesn't go it only goes a certain distance and it doesn't do very much damage and you can you can pick stuff up with the elephant, which is isn't really ever necessary. I think you have to move a rock. Yeah, it's not i I don't think you ever I never use that. Yeah. A lot there's a lot of animals that are that are like that. I mean you guys we can just talk about the animal specifically. That is a big that is the whole game basically and that's the whole like selling point of the game. They're divided by biome by a zone like Europe you get the pretty simple like European animals, like there's a dog, there's a rat, there's a mouse. Rat. Sheep. Sheep. Yeah, rats. Think of a fox. There's fox. There's also there's like a there's a bear. The bear's not used except for that one level and you don't you don't really need him for anything, I don't think. I don't think he like actually benefits you like using him. He's just really slow. The bear I mean that's that's a lot of the animals. Like they're they're slow, big, but in attack. But a lot of times I felt like even like the stronger animals were so slow that you just get tore up by like say a scorpion that could go twenty times your speed and you guys zap you with electricity. Yeah. And you're too clunky to like even get close to it. So you said the scorpion thing is I remember you saying the scorpion was only useful for crawling in, but I I used it a couple of times to fight because it that zap is once I'm actually kinda nuts on it. Once I realized that level that you need to use the vulture to pick up the other animals and bring them over and drop them onto stuff, I just brought the camel over the tank camel and I just used that. That's what I did too actually. 'Cause it literally are you like animals that you can aim or have guns you can aim with them, you can hold the left trigger and aim that way. So you can aim Be walking holding left trigger in your camel mod like first person camel mode, or it's still third person, but it's tricky. Tank controls. Yeah, and then you just shoot. You get to play as fish a couple times. I think there's two. There's cool cod, which is probably my favorite because it's so stupid. And then there's piranha. But if unless I'm in unless I'm remembering incorrectly, I think cool cod has its controls are reversed for piranha. I piranha, you press down and it goes, you know, it's like the the c up and down controls are reversed. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? I don't think cool cod is that way. I think he's just normal, like down is down and up is up. But yeah, I did that because with the cool cod you can swim fast and you can jump. Yeah. And there's sometimes where you have to swim fast, go up and jump. Like so you're jumping out of the water like over an obstacle or something. I think maybe they didn't want to complicate like that even further with having to like be like, ⁓ I need to pull down again. Yeah. But I'm trying to really go way up. It doesn't You don't need to do it, but you can do it. ⁓ I think you might have to do it once. But the yeah, the fish the fish kinda suck. They don't really do anything. The piranha sucks. Spring thing. ⁓ yeah, there's that's the other thing is there's animals, like there's sheep, and then there's other versions of that animal like spring sheep. Like so it's a sheep and you know what? That's something that bugs me about some of these animals, is that any I think it's almost any of the jumping ones, you can't like move it around And do like little hops like per movement, you have to jump to move it. Yeah. Like you have to jump and aim where you want to go. It doesn't there's no like little like like walking mechanic for it or anything. Yeah. Yeah. The hyena. So And that can be a little annoying. Most rocket versions of animals are better, except for hyena. There's a rocket hyena and it's way worse. He's just really hard to control. Yeah. Regular hyena is stupid too. He's like the biker. He's got like the trike. Yeah. The regular hyena dump is dumb too. No, the regular hyena's great. Yeah, the laugh attack's great. I had a laugh attack melts enemies. I had problems getting it to hit. Like I would just be walking in circles around them. You have to there's like a ⁓ I never had that issue. You start the laugh and it takes a a second or two for the laugh to start taking effect on the in the other animal. That's the problem with that attack for me. It's not instant, at least. Mm-hmm. Same. And it doesn't melt on because sometimes you have to do it like five times. On the parrot at least. ⁓ I don't know. I I ⁓ on the parrot? You're right. On the parrot, yeah. You have to like follow the parrot danger. I feel like for any animal that was dangerous, like the gorilla, I know, I I had to do it like twice. Mm-hmm. And the other nice thing about the laugh attack is that it paralyzes them because they start laughing and they don't do anything while they're laughing. And then they s keep laughing, I think, for a little bit after you're done. So it gives you A little bit of recharge time. Usually they're back up and normal before you're completely recharged, start laughing. But you can get them caught in a loop where you like let it recharge a little bit and then start laughing and let it recharge and start laughing. Yeah, but it's just dumb. It just keeps them laughing. No, it's great. I it's not a fun mechanic. ⁓ yeah, you can kill this guy, but you gotta do it for a little bit, then you gotta wait and then run away and the recharge takes too long. That's comedy, baby. Yeah, yeah. That's a great bit. That's a great bit. Yeah. I mean, my favorite animal is probably the desert fox with the gun because it's just funny that and he moves he moves. Racing turtle. Racing turtle's cool. Rocket dog's cool. ⁓ kangaroo is cool. The boxing kangaroo. The boxing was the kangaroo. Boxing kana. Pogo kangaroo. That one's stupid. It already jumps. This one jumps worse. I don't what's the point? Yeah. It's like I said, you can't move it around. Yeah. The bears. The bears are always the all the bears are disappointing. They're all really slow. They do have a lot of health. Yeah. But the tank bear in the ice levels does like nothing. I mean, I think it shoots missiles, but it's so slow and it can't jump. A lot of animals can't jump. I would say ⁓ most of animals can't jump actually. So there's a lot of ski husky a little bit, but they're kind of hard to control. Because they they'll like get up to speed and they'll start sliding. Mm-hmm. And it's hard to control it. I like the ski wall. So you've got to be Yeah, the Ski Wall ra I yeah, because the racing level is the best. I think it's the best level in the game. At the end of every level, there's like a special so there's a lot of platform ⁓ most of the levels are platforming. Well, when you get to the very last level of the biome, and this is also how you collect all of EO's Evo's body parts back, is what you do is usually it's some kind of unique level. Yeah, it's different. And so for Europe it was it's dog. What is your ⁓ Europe's the dog fight. So yeah, yeah. It's a shoot ⁓ up. Yeah. ⁓ you're playing as a airplane dog and you're doing a dog fight with like a bunch of other flying animals. And then Ice is the walrus, which is like Nintendo sixty four race. Walrace. Yeah, wal race. Yeah. ⁓ the jungle, I like the jungle. That's the one where you're like you're Kind of floating through and shooting over like that one. You're floating through and you're like shooting down at the animals below you. ⁓ and you can get like upgrades to your you can get upgrades. We'll go over each of these. Yeah. That I liked I I loved all of those la like boss levels. I just liked them because they were different. I liked them all a lot. They were a lot of fun. It's cool that they're different, but they should done it more the last level in the desert. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. If those are the most fun levels then they should have more of those. Like being like if this was geared more towards being a like mini game kind of game like that, like like WarioWare or something, but like more a little more maybe, maybe some platforming, but more of that. You're right. I think that would have been a much more fun game. A specific animal because like focused level where the animal's ubi abilities are the entire focus of it, like the dog, flying dog, walrus race, and then ⁓ I don't know, the one when you're doing the shooting one, it's like you're a camera or something. The final desert boss is like a boxing kangaroo match and there's like a boxing ring and stuff. ⁓ which I don't like that one either. But we can start with ⁓ and then there's the final boss level with the final level when you have all your parts collected and that's like a weird like run around a miniature city and blast animals as Evo, as a robot form Evo. ⁓ but we'll go through them one by one. We'll start with ⁓ dog level, ⁓ dog plane level at the end of Europe. I thought it was okay. ⁓ it's not my favorite one. ⁓ that's the Walrus one, but ⁓ it's probably been my number two. I'm not I guess if I include the final boss level, I still think it group? I didn't lock no, the ⁓ flying dog. That's probably the dog fight one's really good. Yeah. It's probably I probably rank it number two out of the the four. Well, we'll see do you want do we want to include the final boss as one of these? I guess we should. It's a mini game kinda thing. I think so. Yeah. Then I'd still say this is probably my number two. It's a dogfight one. It's okay. It's like it's it's different. You're flying around, you you shoot guns and drop bombs at the same time with the same button, which is kinda silly. You gotta fly through rings, you gotta fight the other box that lets you like do a U turn. Yeah, which is kinda helpful. ⁓ it's kinda tough. Like the the foxes are tough. The missile foxes are pretty tough because they're always launching missiles at you. ⁓ I thought the U turn was super f helpful because what I would do is I would like shoot at them, fly over them, U turn immediately, and then be shooting at their backs like i like instantly. And so it wasn't that Did you it was hard for sure, but ⁓ it wasn't as hard as Like before I figured that out. So there's a section in the very top right corner of that map and it's like a little red and blue runway. If you go through it, it heals you. Yeah. I didn't know that. It was a recharger. I didn't know that my first like time or two playing. I was like, What the hell am I supposed to do? Yeah. 'Cause I was I thought it was hard. Yeah. I thought it was really hard. Ooh. And then then I found out about the runway and the the Time, you know, the Yeah, it makes it so easy. The life that I found out about it, it was the life I won like pretty handily. I just save stated and because something else you can do, you can just fly back and forth. Yeah, you can do the U turn in it through it. Yeah. And fight them. So like you can just basically have full health. Yeah. Cheese it. That's that's basically what I did. Just cheese it. Yeah. It will stop work. Yeah, it'll stop work. I love some cheese. Yeah. I don't know how you could do it. Do you not? I didn't cheese it. I like a good cheese. But I I mean cheese is a cheesecake form. Yeah. That was it. Different form of cheese. We all love cheese. But some love cheddar, some love Swiss. Cheese cheese cheese. Cheese creep. She some nice breed. Cheese, cheese, cheese. A nice ⁓ a nice blue cheese you guys like blue cheese? I don't think anybody knows it. I like I like blue cheese. I like blue cheese. That's rock. I like most cheese. Yeah, I blue cheese. I I can't think of a cheese I don't really like. I mean there's cheese there's definitely better cheeses. Some cheeses are better than others. We could do a cheese ⁓ tier list at some point. Nothing else matters. Let's talk about cheese now. Here we go. We're no longer cheese. Retro handhelds but the cheese podcasts. Monsters Monster's a good one. Yeah. ⁓ It's a really good one. I like ⁓ you know, I don't know what my favorite is. I like goat cheeses, like those goat cheeses that you put like berries and shit in it. You know, those are good. Yeah. I like hard cheeses too, like Parmesan Regiana, like the expensive. Those are good. I really like a good cheese plate. Yeah, I love shortiery boards. I do really like those. Is that a millennialism? I think it is. Millennial. It's just cheese and meat. There's nothing wrong with indulging in some cured meats and cheese. Hell yeah. Salted You guys like olives maybe tiny pickles. No. I like olive olives. Like olives, okay. Yeah. I j I just like I like meat, cheese, and cracker. Yeah. Yeah. The basics. Keith, you ever had like basically olives olive? You have have you ever had like legitimate, like real calmada olives or you only ever had the black ones, like the little ones you get on pizza, the little ones, yeah. That's the They taste like olives but they're not good compared to like they're not real olive or yeah. They're fine on pizza or like in a ⁓ in a salad. Yeah. But if you're just eating an olive, like you you gotta have like the green olives or like the purplish olives. The purple ones, yeah. Or the green the stuffed green ones, the stuffed green olives like the pimento olives obviously are classic. Certified olive classic stuffed ones. This is good this is good stuff. This is good stuff. It's just gonna be this section scams y'all for six minutes. Or the opposite. This is the only part people listen to. I like the jalapeno stuffed olives. Those are good too. I don't know if you guys have had those. Yeah. ⁓ But there are blue there's also blue cheese stuffed ones and those aren't very good, even though I do like blue cheese. Blue cheese stuffed olives. They're they're a it's a little bit much. I like it. I like the little mini mushrooms you get sometimes when you get the ⁓ antipasty. I like a good mushroom. Antipasti, whatever. Yeah. Mm-hmm. A lot of people don't like mushrooms. I love mushrooms. I'm not a big fan of mushrooms, actually. Let's keep talking about our favorite foods actually. ⁓ so yeah, I'm not a big fan of mushrooms, ⁓ you know, but ⁓ What's your favorite pizza topping? No, no, no. Yeah, the wall the Walrus race is really good. You I don't you you get boosts and that's it? Or you can hit like boost balls, yeah. Yeah. ⁓ I think there's supposed to be weapons, but I never got one. I don't I don't know. I never you're just I never tried to shoot, I just wanted to go fast. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty easy. Gotta go fast. Dare I say that was the time I had the most fun with this game. That's my favorite. That's my favorite. That was my favorite. Part of this whole game was that race. Ca kinda reminded me of like Yeah. Racing boss races, if you ever played that game. Like, you know, it's a cart racer, but there would be these boss races. Like you'd race a dinosaur and one of ⁓ was actually Warrus, but you'd actually race the animal itself. Like they wouldn't be in a cart. They'd just be running through the snow, but you're in the cart trying to race ⁓ This kind of reminded me of that in a fun nostalgic way. ⁓ Maybe it was fabricated fun, but I had fun nonetheless. Yeah. No, I I really liked all the bosses. The walrus race. ⁓ the next one would be the jungle, the shooting one. ⁓ Ryan, what didn't you like about that? You didn't like the controls or what? I didn't like how slow the projectiles moved when you're shooting. It's just like they're just dropping out kind of they're like in an arc. It's not easy or intuitive. To aim and you gotta lead them a lot. And they're all all the the robots, the animals are moving around all the time. And you I mean, I actually I failed the first time. I got over ten eleven thousand score and it was like you didn't kill enough animals. Like, okay. I actually that's the only time I stopped that level and came back to it later because I think you have to get twelve thousand because I got around that two. I think I got ten thousand the first time, twelve thousand the second. So I think you have to get twelve thousand at least. It's like a related number of animals, but yeah. It's like a rail shooting thing where you just get the camera moves around the level and there's lots of animals and you shoot darts at them and then you're talking about the animals. Yeah, yeah. And you can get missiles if you shoot the boxes, you can get missiles, and there's like a part where there's like an actual shooting gallery. There's also there's missiles and there's double arrows. So you can shoot two arrows at once or missiles. And the shooting gallery I did horrible on. Yeah, I can only hit the hyenas in the front. I could not hit anything else. Because it your projectiles couldn't hit anything during that. Yeah. You have to lead you'd have to lead the turtle coming across the entire time just to get one. There's no way you're getting all the animals take more than one hit. Yeah, I was about to say that's the other thing to note about this is like it's not like you hit an animal and it's dead. You have to hit them various amounts of times depending on like their health bar and stuff. I mean, yeah, I I could never kill anything but the hyenas because I was just able to like shoot it all the way across shoot it all the way across and but yeah the turtle I I think it like might have a higher armor than ⁓ a hyena or something. Because that's the other thing. They have health bars but they also have armor. Right? Yeah. Is that right? Do they have armor and health or do they just have the armor and once the armor is worn down and they die. I don't really know because you always have two bars on your HUD and one of them is health and the other one is just like your recharge for your secondary. Yeah. thing but it doesn't drain. Secondary and primary. But the little circles are what actually drain. The circles are your like recharge for your two abilities. Sometimes an ability doesn't drain at all. And sometimes they both drain. ⁓ but yeah there's that and then there's the health bar and then there's a blue bar at the bar bottom that indicates whatever animal you're fighting. So is that what that is? I thought that was your secondary power. Yeah I thought it was just a No, no, that's ⁓ No, that's that's the animal you're fighting. That's their health bar. Okay, so like when I was playing, and I think it was more of my Check it thing fucking up. Check it, Jimmy. I did not see a health bar or any other bar myself. So like I just had the score when you pick up the orbs. ⁓ I noticed green, yeah. That's hilarious. I thought I had the same case. It was like during the early levels, ⁓ I just got mauled by a bunch of foxes as the rat, and I'm like, was there a health bar? Did I miss something here? How much health did I have? You would see the health bar is pretty clearly a health bar. No, no, I just didn't I didn't get one. Yeah, I just didn't have one. Yeah, it's right. That's what it looks like down there. Yeah. And then big giant scores. This right here is your health bar. Mm-hmm. Yeah. This is your health bar. This is the enemy's health bar. And then these are your two abilities recharges. And then there's your big old score that doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. I just had to score the big score. I didn't I never actually had a health bar. Where none of this is real and the points don't matter. Man, this game's been making some odd creative design choices. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. It would be really nice if the score did something. I don't know. I mean, I guess it is. What's your high score though? Yeah. ⁓ What's your high score of the level? I mean, competing with your friends is probably enough honestly. Trophies or something, right? In the game for like doing something like Yeah, like I said, if you kill if you kill all of the foxes, this is the only one I know of. If you kill all the foxes in the oil level that are guarding the oil rig, then you get a trophy. But there are trophies you can earn. There is one in one of the very last levels. You know, the one where you have to get the four archaeological facts. Yeah, else. If you if you break the teeth of the dinosaur, a trophy comes out of the found that out randomly. Yeah. And then last you have the desert boss battle, which is the boxing ring. I like the punch up pyramid. See, I love the boxing ring. This is more this goes back to the mini game type thing. If we had like a dedicated little combat arena minigame where you could pick an animal you wanted and fight with fight any other animal. Like that would have been so cool to just like fuck around with, but you only get it for this one little mini boss fight. Yeah, you gotta fight regular camel, you gotta fight cannon tank camel, whatever, and you gotta fight another kangaroo and Which which regular camel is harder than camel cam. Yeah, camera camel. For sure. Because like it continuously it continuously spits at you. Mm-hmm. The guide that I followed for some of this, ⁓ On that one, it was like, don't even worry about the first camel, it barely'll hit you. He's like, What you gotta do with is with the cannon camel, just stay around. Which is true. With the cannon camel, all you have to do is not be where the gun's point. Yeah. That's it. It's really easy. The spitting camel will like spin around to spit at you really fast. And like I was like, This is not like he must have just got lucky because he is continuously spitting at me this whole fight. But every time you knock down one of them, it ⁓ spawns a little health. Orb in the corn your corner, which makes it pretty easy. Yeah, you like return to your corner to you just Yeah. Like a boxing match. Yeah. Yeah. You just can't get beaten by them in one round. Would you only get one health bar one round? They get yeah. They get up multiple times. Yeah, you have to beat up three rounds. Yeah. Yeah. And ⁓ yeah, the the final one is the kangaroo, and it's pretty it's pretty tough. Yeah. It's kind of tough. Like he you you can w he runs to the corner and you can bunch him in the back a bunch of times. Yeah, right. Yeah, if you figure out how he moves, it's not too bad, but he will still turn around and start punching you. And like Ryan said, you only get your health bar and that's it. They get like you have to fight three rounds with them. Yeah, that's probably my f yeah of of of the five, it's probably number three because number four slot is the final. Yeah. That's my fourth favorite of the boss battles. I didn't like it either. You become Evo, real Evo in the robot like form, and you get to like walk out to this map. It's like a miniature, it's like a city. And there's like fifty or forty little animals running around and you have to zap them all. And there's a time limit and they the leader, whatever your your friend Stan or Dan or whatever his name is, is constantly telling you how much time is left. Every like five seconds. He's There's this much time left. And you've hit if you hit a card's running around. If you hit one, it It takes a five second penalty off your time. But you have to destroy all the animals in the area. And I don't they don't all spawn at once, I don't believe, because otherwise you'd be able to find them really easily. But you'll be fighting like some sheep in the middle and then No, they don't they don't all spawn at once. Yeah. It's an it's annoying because I I didn't like that one either because you have to I had to hunt down something at the very end there was one left. I had to hunt it down. I was like, where is it? It's not in an obvious spot. I think it was a rat. It's either a rat or a mouse. Mouse was like my number two. That was left and there was a rat. And it's just somewhere in the streets and I'd go over there and zap it. It I didn't think I didn't like it. It wasn't hard. But I liked the final level. I had a lot of fun with the final level. Yeah. I liked all the levels that were different, which were all these final levels. I thought it was fun. I I liked it. I had I had fun with it. It was good to have like, you know, you spend all the time doing the bouncing around from animal to animal because you're just a little little ⁓ microchip, whatever, and then you finally get your body back. It's like that Metroid moment where you're like you're all powerful and just blowing everything up. Yeah. But you're not that powerful. You just have a laser shoot the laser beam. Yeah, that's true. And you can jet like rocket foot jump thing. That's really it. And you gotta you do have to climb. The fox was giving me trouble. There's a couple of foxes that fly around and you have to stand on a certain building to be able to hit them and jump and hit them. And that was an annoying one. I had to get like I had to kill the fox. I had three of the animals left. The fox was one of them was like, All right, I'll kill the fox first and then Look for the other two. And I made a save state as soon as I killed the fox in like three minutes left or something, then I went and found literally the mouse. Actually, save state the final level. It took me a couple of tries because of that. Well, it took me one real try and then I started save stating it. But I did fail it once. I was about to say that's that's actually not true because I save stated when I left the spaceship to start the rest of the level. Because the level starts, you like confront the brain, which I think is supposed to be a mother brain reference or something, but the brain that's controlling the space station and you destroy it and then the space station crashes and all the animals go loose and start wreaking havoc. And so that's what we're talking about is you have to go out and destroy all those animals before they destroy the city. All right. Or before the midnight parade or something like that. I don't know. Before the new year. I think is what it is. He's like, let's wrap this up before the new year or something. I saved leaving the spaceship. Yeah. All right, well, ⁓ why don't we do like a rapid fire of our favorite moments, least favorite moments, surprises and things we would change. Let's go like I'll say what's your favorite moment? Then everyone answers. So I'll say, ⁓ my favorite moment is probably the walrus race. Honorable mention is the fish cool cod fish level, which was fun at first and then I got lost like kinda confused and then it wasn't fun anymore. But it was cool. It's easy to get lost in that one. Keith, what about what about you? What's your favorite? ⁓ I really enjoyed the ⁓ I had the boxing level actually. I really enjoyed that actually. I my favorite animal was a kangaroo, because I I just enjoyed kangaroo boxing gloves. I just think it's ⁓ fun little fun little. Yeah, right, exactly. Yeah. So yeah, that was my favorite part. And it's just ⁓ doesn't get better than this. Yeah. Pretty much. That was the peak. Imagine the kangaroo box the boxer coming on the screen and keeps like, ⁓ Yay! Yay! ⁓ what about you, Gabe? ⁓ I love I love that racing turtle. Like I said, I just love getting him up to speed and slam into enemies because he does a lot of damage. So I really once I figured that out, I was like, ⁓ this is so much fun. So I I my favorite part of the game was anytime I got to play the racer turtle, I was like, Yes. Back baby. Yeah, yeah. We had turtle. Turtle. Plus just, you know, the funny of it's a fast turtle. Come on. It's simple. My favorite ⁓ part was also the Walray sixty four. I just I'm a big racing fan anyway, but I felt the little nod to cart racers there was really good. And I think my favorite animal was the desert fox. I just or you can really replace that with any of the animals that were that had guns, like all the tank animals, all the Missile animals. ⁓ I liked the dig modification that they threw in there. Yeah. I really like the dog plane. Dog plane. Like it's just I I dog fight. Yeah, my favorite animal's probably Desert Fox with the gun. And then number two is probably Rocket Dog, Missile Dog. I know you don't use him much in the later game and but he's pretty big in the early fuck couple levels. He's just fun, funny to boost, jump and shoot a bunch of missiles and stuff. He actually moves a little fast too, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any fast animal is a gem. Yeah. Yeah, right. Least favorite section is my least favorite. There's a there's a couple, but I think number one is probably that boss level where you have to fly around and shoot the darts. That's probably my number one least favorite thing, and followed closely by poop level because it's just a terrible it's funny, but it's not a good level. ⁓ Keith, what about you? Least favorite. Okay. Ryan's been talking about how much you hated this game the whole time. ⁓ I didn't also didn't really enjoy the game that much. And I think a lot of it was probably actually down to the my hardware just being really fucky. So honestly, that may have been a really big part of it. Welly's favorite moment was playing the game. Yeah, pretty much. Just like why can I see the walls? What is happening? Why does it look like this? Why is there so many versions of the guy in the spaceship? What is going on here? ⁓ you know, I'd say honestly just Hmm, least favorite. Probably and honestly probably the beginning. Cause like I don't know, I just felt just the I think the animals that you get are just kind of just like it is slow to start, obviously. Slow to start. And it's just like you get the and also just drive around the f the mouse, the mouse was hard to control and it was like fuck fuck this. Yeah. I'm not liking this so far. But ⁓ but yeah, it did I mean it did get a little bit better. Poop jungle is just a classic that should never be forgotten. and so yeah, but ⁓ yeah, I said like the beginning part was probably my least favorite bit of the ⁓ bit of the experience. Jay. ⁓ mine was also the beginning, I think. The whole Europe ⁓ Europe starting. Yeah. No. ⁓ I don't know. It seemed like a weird difficulty curve too. Like it seemed like the game got really hard really quickly. And then you got to the second biome and then it just kind of reset and got like normal gameplay again. Like this is the difficulty it should be. Yeah. But ⁓ yeah, like Keith said, ⁓ a lot of the animals were real slow to start off with and just that slow movement. And th the level to level like cadence that it gives you, I wasn't really a fan of. The more I started playing it. I w like when I picked this game, I thought it would be more of like a more open world, more I guess, cohesive like universe that we're playing in instead of just level base. ⁓ I felt like that kinda got disjointed at parts. So really just like the whole presentation of the game kinda let me down a little bit. But no regrets on choosing it. I'm glad we got to play it still. ⁓ I got I did enjoy the animals. Like I still love the premise of it. And It might be a game I visit one day. Maybe. That's that's the next mission, okay. My least favorite part was ⁓ it was the Ratomatic, actually, because it glitched out on me. I don't I don't know, I could not figure that thing out. And then I had to start the level over and I happened to get it one time. But I I did the there's yeah, that it just I couldn't understand what made it trigger you. being sucked up as a mouse. Yeah, that and then the the part following it where you're actually getting going down the conveyor belt is really dumb, hard, like for no reason to all of a sudden I hated that part of the game. Yeah. It's a pretty hard game. Simon Heart is just like the game the that part of the game didn't work. I would trigger the rattomatic, go to the center of the circle, and it wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work. So I hated that. Yeah. Drove me nuts. I think that thing sucks. Doesn't work. I think we can all agree the one thing we would all change unanimously is the camera. Just the camera's just bad. And if it wasn't for the camera, the game I mean, obviously that's the worst part of the game. Yeah. That's the one thing we would all change and make the game bad. But also play the thing I played it on because that's true. Yeah. So moving on, ⁓ Would you play it again? And I actually kind of added a note here. So would you collect this? Should you buy a physical version of it? Should you at least play it in some capacity or should you skip it? And my vote is you should skip it. I will not play this game again. Yeah. I ⁓ I'd say give it a chance. Give it a chance. You might like it more than us. I doubt I doubt it. Yeah, I would I wouldn't play it again. ⁓ but I mean you might like it. Like I said, some people like it. Some people like the game a lot. I think it's got a lot of problems, but so I wouldn't play it again. But I'm not saying don't play it. I w I I wouldn't say don't play it. I didn't hit like dislike it enough for that. I think for me, as someone that does kind of collect, this could be a fun game for me to go back to physically on my Nintendo sixty four and not like grind through it, but maybe play a level at a time. Like slowly beat it over the course of a year or two. Maybe. And it might just sit on my shelf and look pretty. Yeah. I mean the box art is really cool if you got a box with it. If you didn't I mean the cart still ⁓ looks alright, but the box art's actually pretty cool. It I think it's actually misrepresents how it the game looks better in the box art than it actually is in reality. ⁓ That's classic games though. They always agree. It's probably worth collecting because it's not I don't know how many of them there were ever made. I don't know how well it's sold. It probably it's an interesting like game to have It's a physical idea. Decently expensive game. Yeah. Also add it you get like full inbox. So it's just for I just got loose. Yeah. But even the loose copies run it either is or gets close to the triple digits. So it's like pretty I guess pretty rare. It's probably rare, yeah. I would say I I mean I would skip it. I would recomm if you have other games you want to play and there's plenty of other retro games to play it, I would skip it. I would play any other game we've played so far over this game, except for Iron Man. Obviously. This might be yeah. It might be your thing. You might be into this this kind of game. Might be a nostalgia thing for you, bring you back. ⁓ so maybe yeah, maybe try it if you I would say you could play it, but give it a shot. What's hurting you? Yeah. I Still personally I say it's not worth your worth your time. You got plenty of other games and better games to play than this game. Play it on a good machine too. Yeah. Play it on something that isn't a tiny like knockoff handheld, like a clone handheld, which is what Keith played it on. ⁓ play it on a slightly bigger knockoff handheld. Yeah. Jay, do you wanna ⁓ explain the next game since this was your game that won and now you have one that's replacing it. Would you like to tell us what the replacement game is? ⁓ that complaining, you finally win, you drop this fucking turd on us. I'll give all three of the games that I chose to be voted on too. ⁓ so for this month I chose Turek, Dinosaur Hunter, I chose Diablo, and I chose Fuck for I blanked on the name. That's it. Jet Jet set radio. Jet Grind Radio. Jet Grind Radio Poly. The American name. Out of those three, our our lucky Patreon members got to vote and they chose my next game to be Diablo nineteen ninety seven. came out on PC. And there was a PS one port. But you know, we all know Diablo just this is the first installment of the classic Dungeon Crawler ARPG ARPG, yeah. I've only actually played the third Diablo. So yeah. Yeah. ⁓ which I know Diablo three is really fast. I know this is supposed to be a lot slower, a lot more kind of I guess harder too. ⁓ but it just seems like another cool origin game that I wanted to be on our wheel and pretty cool that this one won. Yeah, I'd be ⁓ interesting I think I I might actually get into this one if it wins, ⁓ when it wins. ⁓ something that I could probably see myself getting into. I'd never Not a huge Blizzard fan. Like I've played World of Warcraft. But we're I that's obviously it's different. It's a ⁓ MMO. MMOs I always liked for the multiplayer part, playing with your friends rather than the actual content of the game, which is pretty rote, like just standard. ⁓ go here, do this, go here, do this, go here, kill this many things, do that. I know Diablo isn't like that. It's a loot game, like, you know, dungeon loot stuff, ⁓ to my understanding at least. And only experience I have is ⁓ playing ⁓ three in college. We played like on a console together. And I yeah, that was that was the extent of my Diablo. But yeah, that's a that's a good one to ⁓ add to the list. Pretty good. First not really the first, technically the first 'cause we had Doom and it's a DOS game, but first like Western RPG, I guess you could say, on the list, right? Yeah. Should be. So we have that added to our I'd say Iron Man and Exo Man Wars and RPG actually. I don't that's not true. Even close, buddy. No, it has the elements in there. What what RPG elements? Don't worry about it. All right. So we have our wheel, we have Diablo added to it. I'll run through them real quick. We have Castlevania, Symphony of the Night, Metal Warriors, Final Fantasy VII, Shadow Tower. Demon's Crest, Resident Evil 2, Diablo, Shantae, WWF, SmackDown 2, Know Your Roll, Meta Evil, Act Razor, Final Fight, and Star Wars, ⁓ Super Star Wars, Return of the Jedi. ⁓ if without further ado, we go actually let me shuffle this a little bit. To the listeners and and viewers, ⁓ we have unlocked the potential to play PS2 games now because Keith has purchased a more powerful handheld. He hasn't set it up yet, but he's got a Retroid Pocket 5. So we should be able to play some PS two and ⁓ Dreamcast and ⁓ GameCube as well. Nice. Love it. And some good GameCube games. Best era of video game in my opinion. So let's go ahead and there it goes. Seems pretty tame. What's it got? ⁓ Will I win twice in a row? No, you won't. It's gonna be Keith. yeah. Keith's about to win. Keith's about to win again. Motherfucker, nice. That's cool. Yes! Resident Evil two. That's a good one. I'm excited for this. Because I never played Resident Evil of any game. The only one I've ever played is four. So this will be fun. Classic Resident Evil, yeah. Some would say the best Resident Evil game. Toss up for me. ⁓ I still think of the classic stylings of Resident Evil, I think Resident Evil remake for GameCube is the best one. Resident Evil 2 is a fucking classic. It's amazing. ⁓ last time I played it, I beat it in two hours. So we'll see how quick I can ⁓ beat this game this time. I don't think I'll beat it that fast. No way. Right? You might. I mean, well I mean I don't know I don't know how long this game is. Unless you unless you're an idiot. Resident Evil normally takes about like seven or eight hours, maybe. Maybe ten hours. I don't know. Well, I'm excited to play this one. ⁓ probably play it on the Steam Deck again just so two stories also, two paths. ⁓ depending on which two characters you play as, so which depending on which way you want to go, there's Leon and Claire. And if you don't How would I ever not be Leon? ⁓ well there's there's different I mean, there's no gameplay well actually there are gameplay differences between. Yeah, but in one you're not Leon. I'm gonna be Leon. That's that's true, that's true. ⁓ so depending on ⁓ if you do play through both of them, which I would recommend because you know it's it's short enough that you can get through both playthroughs. Or you play his Leon twice. Yeah. You could technically do that. I guess you could make this make that work. ⁓ but if you ⁓ so you can do either Leon first, then Claire. And depending on what things you do in the first playthrough, that actually does affect things in the second playthrough. Okay, that's pretty cool actually. It's actually pretty cool. Now there is a technical canon story of Claire A, Leon B. That's how I'll be doing it. ⁓ but you can do the other way if you want. Either way. So you the intention is to play Claire first and then play Leon? Yeah. Okay. That's a canonical story of how the events went. I'll probably do that then. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So yeah, it's it's a great it's called the zapping system. That's ⁓ the term they use for the ⁓ for how the The effects of one playthrough affects the other one. That's what that the that's the term they use. They call it the zapping system. Is it like within a same save file? Is that how it works? Do you have to like ⁓ no, you would ⁓ well, yes, actually, yes. You'd finish one save file, then you load up the next one on the next disc. ⁓ this is one of the multi disc games, isn't it? It's a two disk game. Yeah. That'll be that's a little weird when it comes to emulating, but it's not that complicated, I don't think. I don't think I've ever done it though myself. I think I've maybe emulated I would think it's on everything, so you could play it on anything. I would think the way retro arc works though, the way like local saves happen, it'll keep the save when you open the disc two. Yeah. You might even have to. You might it might just work. It's on GOG, so you can get it on there too. I think it's on Steam as well. Just the actual game itself. ⁓ is it really true? Might I think so. Yeah. Is that a different? This game's on everything. You can get it'll be a different version if you want. Is the Steam version different, you think though? No. I mean, there might be some like technical upgrades, but the only actual difference in the games, ⁓ the N there was an N N64 version, and that version actually the GameCube we released, they had they added some stuff in there, I think, as well, like a cheat menu, stuff like that. But the N sixty four version is the only official version of any Resident Evil game that has a randomizer in it. ⁓ to where like you all your pickups are just in Whatever pickup you pick up, it's just a different That's crazy. ⁓ yeah, the N sixty four version is the only one that has that. ⁓ is it default or is that just an option you can do? No, that's an extra thing that you can ⁓ it's not default, yeah. God, that'd be ridiculous. There's a there's remake version. Is there there's a remake of it? Is there a remake? There's Resident Evil Two remake, yeah. Okay, because I was that's what I saw first on Steam and I was like, forty bucks. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ there's a ninety eight version on Steam as well. Yeah, it's ten dollars. Nice. So that's more reasonable. You missed all. Did guys finish? We're about to. Yeah. Okay. We're all done. Get out of here. Resident Evil 2 1. Keefe won again, baby. Really? Yeah. That's awesome. Keefe Keefe wins again. I'm gonna download that right now. Or are you guys recording now? On Steam. We were so recording and now I'll have to edit around you coming back and questioning it. We still got we still got an outro. Yeah, we're still in the we still gotta do the outro. Play the music and all that stuff. ⁓ ⁓ I'm not kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm back. Me guys. I'm back to ruin the edit. Jackass. So yeah, we're ⁓ so yeah, it'll be Well, it sounded like a freaking nightmare in there. So we're all ⁓ so yeah, we're gonna be playing everyone was crying. Scary nightmare game. This game did scare me as a kid. This game did scare me as a kid. I'm excited to play it. Decided to have one to look forward to unlike last month, as in this month, this game. Tank controls. ⁓ tank controls. When we get a game that sucks, like Iron Man and this one. We didn't you guys didn't know it sucked at the time. This one's not as bad. I'll st I'll start playing the game and I'm like, ⁓ this is gonna be like a chore. And then I just get like into this funk because I can't play anything else because I gotta play this. I feel bad if I play anything else. So I'm like, I'm putting it's like working on I will put it off. If I I will take a well, I mean, I'm also working on my internal champional champion last month. ⁓ it's a good month too. It's ⁓ the theme for this month it has to be a game that was released on Consoles that did less than fifteen million and twenty five million. Twenty four million console sales, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like which Xbox and GameCube fall right under that. Xbox falls right under it. Xbox is like twenty-three million or something like that, and GameCube is lower than that. But then also something around that another effect Yeah, it's fell like shit. Another effect of that, yeah. Another effect of that, which I didn't realize, is older consoles, which I guess people just didn't buy video games that much. So like Super Nintendo and stuff like that's actually under it too. I don't know if they didn't do Also also like Sega C D I I bet is also underneath the I saw some. Yeah Dream Cat Dreamcast Dreamcast and Saturn are I I actually nominated Sonic Adventure because I'd never played it. I only ever played Sonic Adventure too. Nice. I really I really hope we never play Sonic another guide. Sonic Adventure's fun. It is fun. I like Sonic Adventure a lot. Yeah. It's so good. I think I like In the first episode I talked shit on Sonic and Mega Man. I think. At least I know Sonic Adventure. You mentioned Sonic. You definitely mention Sonic. I don't know about ⁓ Mega Man. You should have though if you didn't. Yeah, Mega Man's. It's hard. Yeah. It's way too hard for you. Yeah, Mega Man's hard as fuck. Get ready. Yeah. Do not put those games on the list. Ready. Or join the Patreon and Add them yourself. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. I'll pay fifteen dollars on my own money to put the game of cut that. Cut that. I think we've actually mentioned it before. Yeah. How much it cost. No, we have that we harped on how much it was. Yeah. Pay fifteen dollars and maybe your game will win. But maybe Keith's game games will win because Keith gives seems to win all the time. Keith keeps winning, baby. I can't I literally can't stop winning. Three? I think Iron Man. Iron Man and then Reddit. And then this. Yeah. And Gay Jay's won once and I've won twice. Twice. And Gabe's won. Twice. Yeah. Right? Or just once. I think just once Castlevania. Yeah, Castlevania. And that was it. Yeah. Yeah. Top dog of the podcast, baby. This game's gonna be hard because it's gonna be hard to play like with my daughter sitting next to him. Too scary. Yeah. It's spooky. Spooky. By the way, Keefe didn't finish. Everyone else finish. Keep didn't finish the game. By the way. He didn't mention it until everyone's mentioning it now. Because I got all the way to the end. I got all the way to the end. Come on. I'll cut it to the part where this part's at least shown. You should just awkwardly shove that part in. I'll just stick it a little bit in the pocket. You probably could fit it at the Welcome to the car pretty finish the game. Keep it finished the game. Perfect. There he goes again. Not finishing a game. I got to the end. I got to the end. I was right there. Yeah. Mm-hmm. All right. Anyways, follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Car Creeps. Look us. Yeah. 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