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- 0:01Speaker 1: I haven't seen a single piece of writing that is
- 0:05Speaker 1: responsive to what I've requested. Well, I think they realize
- 0:08Speaker 1: now that we're serious, and I think Senator Tillis is
- 0:10Speaker 1: pretty much on the same page that I am. So
- 0:14Speaker 1: they better get real and there's not much time left.
- 0:16Speaker 1: If it stands that it is now right now, would
- 0:18Speaker 1: you well, I'm not prepared to vote yes.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Let me put it then.
- 0:25Speaker 3: That was Senator John Cornyan earlier today. Not being prepared
- 0:30Speaker 3: to vote yes is the same as a no vote.
- 0:33Speaker 3: That's where he currently stands on Todd blanche the Senate
- 0:36Speaker 3: Judiciary Chairman, Chuck Grassley, and another key Republican, Tom Tillis
- 0:40Speaker 3: are all meeting right now in John Cornan's office. We're
- 0:42Speaker 3: back with Mark, Director Brennan and Lisa, you know, Georgia Brennan.
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'm with Mark Elias that one, we don't hold our
- 0:50Speaker 3: breath for Republicans to do the right thing. My only
- 0:52Speaker 3: point earlier was that they can they choose not to.
- 0:55Speaker 3: And two were already there right.
- 0:57Speaker 1: You know.
- 0:57Speaker 3: I think we all between the reelection of from and
- 1:01Speaker 3: the beginning of a second term, wondered how that it
- 1:04Speaker 3: would be and how quickly, And it was the worst
- 1:06Speaker 3: it could be immediately. I spent about an hour and
- 1:08Speaker 3: a half with Brian Driscoll today, and what's happened inside
- 1:11Speaker 3: the FBI is the only thing that rivals what's happened
- 1:15Speaker 3: inside the Department of Justice. And the only thing that
- 1:18Speaker 3: rivals those two sort of political calamities is what's happened
- 1:22Speaker 3: inside O. D and I. And the only thing more
- 1:24Speaker 3: alarming is what's happened inside the Pentagon at the Department
- 1:28Speaker 3: of Defense, which has been oddly renamed the Department of War.
- 1:33Speaker 3: I mean, they've turned the government upside down and on
- 1:35Speaker 3: its head already, and I wonder what you make of
- 1:39Speaker 3: this sort of inability to grasp that.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Well, it's not exactly a profile on courage for Senator
- 1:46Speaker 2: Cornynan to show a bit of backbone on the way
- 1:48Speaker 2: out the door. I like Mark, I've given up on
- 1:52Speaker 2: most Republicans, you know, finding the integrity and the decency
- 1:55Speaker 2: that really should be a testament to the type of
- 1:58Speaker 2: work that they should be doing.
- 2:00Speaker 1: But it's not.
- 2:01Speaker 2: And so therefore, you know, I'm glad that you know,
- 2:03Speaker 2: John Cornyan is pushing this issue. I'm hoping that others
- 2:06Speaker 2: will do it as well. As we said Todd Blanche
- 2:08Speaker 2: should not be confirmed as the Attorney General the United
- 2:11Speaker 2: States given his track record as acting and before there's deputy.
- 2:17Speaker 2: But also again, as we've talked before, the position that
- 2:19Speaker 2: they're putting people in in these organizations, and I do
- 2:23Speaker 2: say that, you know, there's professionals, whether it be in
- 2:26Speaker 2: odn I or law enforcement, FBI, Department Justice, wherever they
- 2:30Speaker 2: do have options. There are inspectors General that they can
- 2:33Speaker 2: go to. There are with the blower channels they can
- 2:36Speaker 2: go to. There are members of the oversight committees that
- 2:38Speaker 2: really take seriously their responsibilities. They happen to be all
- 2:41Speaker 2: on the democratic side of this time, but if individuals
- 2:44Speaker 2: are being asked to do things unethical or illegal, or
- 2:46Speaker 2: something that puts on national security at risk and in danger,
- 2:49Speaker 2: they can go there. There's also responsible members of the
- 2:52Speaker 2: media that would love to be able to expose the corruption,
- 2:55Speaker 2: the fraud, as well as the dangerous actions that are
- 2:58Speaker 2: taking place. So the pact that this administration has had
- 3:02Speaker 2: on the professionals in these various organizations and institutions is profound,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and unfortunately, I think it is lasting, and I really
- 3:10Speaker 2: do wish that some more Republicans, even the ones out
- 3:13Speaker 2: the door would show a bit more courage in terms
- 3:16Speaker 2: of pushing back against this administration.
- 3:18Speaker 3: Merglias. I feel like today we have the smoking gun
- 3:21Speaker 3: evidence of the damage done by one of the chief capitulators.
- 3:26Speaker 3: And that's big law because if they hadn't capitulated, paid
- 3:29Speaker 3: bribes to Donald Trump and agreed to work for Boris
- 3:32Speaker 3: over at Commerce or wherever else start doing their pro
- 3:34Speaker 3: bono work, then everybody targeted by Trump might have the
- 3:38Speaker 3: kind of legal representation that Jim Comy does. Jim Comy
- 3:42Speaker 3: knows these three things about the Secret Service carrying out
- 3:45Speaker 3: warrantless surveillance that they know at the time is illegal.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Because he has the kind of lawyers that he has
- 3:52Speaker 3: and David Kelly and Pat Fitzgerald, Jim Comy will probably
- 3:57Speaker 3: prevail in the judicial branch, that one leg of the stool,
- 4:00Speaker 3: because he has not just good lawyers, not just great
- 4:04Speaker 3: lawyers with the best of the best. A lot of
- 4:06Speaker 3: people at that caliber go work in big fancy law
- 4:09Speaker 3: firms to make money, which is their right. But when
- 4:14Speaker 3: their law firms capitulate to Donald Trump to say they're
- 4:17Speaker 3: M and A businesses, it's really hard for those best
- 4:20Speaker 3: of the best lawyers to represent people like Brendan Blou
- 4:23Speaker 3: or Brian Driscoll or others who get targeted politically.
- 4:27Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's such an important point, and it's
- 4:29Speaker 4: part of the reason why I get so exercised about
- 4:33Speaker 4: this topic every time we talk about it, because it is,
- 4:36Speaker 4: of course not just the people at the top of
- 4:39Speaker 4: government who have capitulated. And I think that we need,
- 4:43Speaker 4: as lawyers, myself included, we need to look at the
- 4:46Speaker 4: legal profession and ask ourselves what the hell happened? I mean,
- 4:51Speaker 4: how did we wind up in a situation in which
- 4:53Speaker 4: the largest, most profitable law firms in America have turned
- 4:57Speaker 4: out to be total cowards, in fact, worse than courage.
- 5:00Speaker 4: In many of these instances, they have not just capitulated,
- 5:04Speaker 4: They've become collaborators. They are sort of in joint venture
- 5:07Speaker 4: business with this administration. And this has downstream effects. You know,
- 5:12Speaker 4: I'm old enough to remember that when government employees, and
- 5:17Speaker 4: I don't mean the people at the top, who you know,
- 5:20Speaker 4: could always get top, top notch lawyers, but I remember,
- 5:23Speaker 4: you know, when rank and file white House officials or
- 5:26Speaker 4: career civil servants got caught up in something and they
- 5:30Speaker 4: needed lawyers, big law firms would provide pro bono or
- 5:34Speaker 4: very very reduced rate representation so that all of these
- 5:38Speaker 4: people could have lawyers. None of them are doing that now,
- 5:42Speaker 4: none of them are willing to do that. In fact,
- 5:43Speaker 4: we just watched I think today or yesterday, one of
- 5:46Speaker 4: the largest most prestigious law firms in New York enter
- 5:49Speaker 4: an appearance on behalf of Donald Trump in a case
- 5:53Speaker 4: involving you know, you know, Jeene Carroll. I mean, it's
- 5:58Speaker 4: going to the opposite direction. And the impact that is
- 6:01Speaker 4: happening having on real people, on exactly the people that
- 6:05Speaker 4: Director Brennan is concerned about that you know, I don't
- 6:08Speaker 4: want to see him unfeeling about, but the impact it
- 6:11Speaker 4: is having is horrific. And the law, the legal industry
- 6:15Speaker 4: has not done self reflection, The American Bar Association has
- 6:19Speaker 4: not done the self reflection needs to do. And so
- 6:22Speaker 4: I'm one hundred.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Percent with you.
- 6:24Speaker 3: Well, I'm not worried about their feelings because again I
- 6:27Speaker 3: spent an hour and a half with Brian Driscold today,
- 6:30Speaker 3: who does this Ted talk and says it is what
- 6:33Speaker 3: it is, is something that people who have stopped fighting say, right,
- 6:36Speaker 3: it isn't what it is. And Kevin worsh knows who
- 6:39Speaker 3: won the twenty twenty election, and if he can look
- 6:41Speaker 3: in the mirror and feel good about himself, because it
- 6:42Speaker 3: gets to be the you know, this big fancy job
- 6:45Speaker 3: he's always wanted. He shouldn't be so proud of himself.
- 6:47Speaker 3: He couldn't tell the truth about who won the election.
- 6:49Speaker 3: So good luck running the economy. I hope for all
- 6:51Speaker 3: of our sake it goes well. Jake Clayton knows who
- 6:54Speaker 3: won in twenty twenty, and if he can look in
- 6:56Speaker 3: the mirror, if he thinks his kids are proud of
- 6:57Speaker 3: of him, I hope he's right right. I want that
- 7:00Speaker 3: for him, But I wouldn't be proud to have him
- 7:01Speaker 3: as a neighbor if you couldn't say the word won
- 7:05Speaker 3: about Joe Biden in twenty twenty. And if you are
- 7:08Speaker 3: looking at an offer from one of the law firms
- 7:10Speaker 3: that capitulated and you think you can do anything else
- 7:12Speaker 3: at the beginning of your career, go do it. Because
- 7:16Speaker 3: you are in bed with people who will not have
- 7:18Speaker 3: your back if you do something hard, because if they
- 7:20Speaker 3: don't have their own backs when Donald Trump comes knocking,
- 7:23Speaker 3: not because they did something wrong, but because they did
- 7:26Speaker 3: something that pissed off Donald Trump, right, they got involved
- 7:30Speaker 3: in causes that are associated with things that these firms
- 7:33Speaker 3: have believed in. And now again they work for Boris
- 7:35Speaker 3: and they do pro Bone and work for the Commerce Department.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Good luck with that. Good luck with that. And I
- 7:40Speaker 3: think that the asymmetry of people not wanting to call
- 7:44Speaker 3: out people at the beginning of their careers and say
- 7:46Speaker 3: you don't want to be associated with these things is
- 7:49Speaker 3: having this downstream effect of letting people say, oh, it
- 7:51Speaker 3: is what it is, it isn't what it is. None
- 7:54Speaker 3: of you have capitulated, and here we are and it's
- 7:56Speaker 3: halfway over. Like I think, on the other side, going
- 8:00Speaker 3: to be equally unemployable to have been a part of
- 8:02Speaker 3: these abominations. So I appreciate all of you having this
- 8:07Speaker 3: conversation and thank you for listening to me.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Event