Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Elon Musk's feelings are hurt so he's stepping away from doge
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- 1:20just for you. Elon Musk appears ready to walk
- 1:23away from his position in the federal government, according to
- 1:26a report from the Washington Post.
- 1:28And the reason he's giving is personal.
- 1:30He's tired of what he sees as sustained, politically motivated
- 1:34attacks from the left. His planned exit would bring an
- 1:37end to a controversial and short lived chapter in government
- 1:40service where the billionaire entrepreneur tried to apply
- 1:43Silicon Valley style disruption to the bureaucracy of
- 1:46Washington. Now, Musk currently leads DOGE,
- 1:50a role he took on under special government employee status, and
- 1:54that designation is set to expire at the end of next month
- 1:57and sources familiar with his plans say he doesn't intend to
- 1:59renew it. Musk reportedly believes that
- 2:01his departure won't slow down the work of DOGE, since key
- 2:05staff members have already positioned themselves across a
- 2:08number of federal agencies and continue to push forward the
- 2:11policies he introduced. But this potential exit comes
- 2:15amid clear signs that his influence in government is
- 2:18diminishing. Recently, the New York Times
- 2:20reported that tensions flared with the administration after
- 2:23Treasury Secretary Scott Bassett objected to Musk's appointment
- 2:27of an acting IRS commissioner. Bassett accused Musk of
- 2:31bypassing him to install his preferred candidate, who was
- 2:35later removed in. This clash has been widely
- 2:38interpreted as a signal that Musk is losing support inside
- 2:41the federal government. Now, other government officials
- 2:45have voiced similar frustrations and concerns.
- 2:47Musk's cost cutting efforts, often implemented without
- 2:50collaboration, have created confusion and at times,
- 2:54resentment. One of his more controversial
- 2:56moves was a directive issued in February that required all
- 2:59federal employees under Doge's reach to submit a weekly e-mail
- 3:02listing 5 completed tasks. Now, Musk said failure to comply
- 3:07would be treated as a resignation.
- 3:09He does this with all of his companies.
- 3:11If he comes into the company, if he buys you, he usually sends
- 3:14out an e-mail that asks you what you've done over the past week
- 3:17and if you don't reply, just gets rid of you.
- 3:21Now, that order was quickly challenged.
- 3:22Just two days later, the Office of Personnel Management issued
- 3:25guidance making it clear that these emails were optional, not
- 3:28mandatory. They stated that employees
- 3:30couldn't be forced out for not participating, and internal
- 3:34emails revealed that the office didn't plan to analyze or use
- 3:37the data being collected anyway. And since then, enforcement of
- 3:41the policy has become inconsistent.
- 3:44Some agencies dropped their requirement entirely.
- 3:47Others kept it but made no effort to track or enforce
- 3:50participation. Employees in some departments
- 3:52reportedly began treating the exercise as a joke, copying the
- 3:56same list each week or submitting sarcastic responses
- 3:59to meet the letter of the rule without honoring its intent.
- 4:03Now outside Washington, pressure is growing for Musk to return
- 4:06his full attention to Tesla, where analysts say his
- 4:08leadership is urgently needed. Dan Ives, an analyst at Wedbush
- 4:13Sacred Securities, has described Tesla as being in a code red
- 4:16state, and he blamed Musk's government involvement as a key
- 4:19distraction. In a note to investors, he urged
- 4:22Musk to step back from DOGE immediately and resume full time
- 4:25leadership at Tesla. Tesla is Musk and Musk is Tesla
- 4:30and anyone that thinks the brand damage Musk is inflicted is not
- 4:34a real thing. Spend some time speaking to car
- 4:36buyers in the US, Europe and Asia.
- 4:39You will think differently about those discussions now.
- 4:42I was also warned that Tesla's political associations could
- 4:45result in a 15 to 20% long term drop in consumer demand.
- 4:49You describe Tesla as having become a political symbol
- 4:53closely tied to the Trump administration and the DOGE
- 4:55program, which he argues is turning off potential buyers in
- 4:59key markets worldwide. Now for civil servants, Musk's
- 5:02short tenure has been jarring. While he did push for some
- 5:05modernization efforts and cost reforms, the abrupt style in
- 5:09which policies were introduced and then rolled back left many
- 5:12employees confused and concerned.
- 5:15Several government workers described the workplace, where
- 5:18expectations change frequently and where directives from Musk
- 5:21clashed with federal norms and federal procedures.
- 5:25Even those who supported Elon Musk's gold acknowledge that his
- 5:28tactics often did more harm than good.
- 5:30The demand for weekly task emails, for instance, may have
- 5:33been intended to boost accountability but instead
- 5:37create a distrust and reset min among staff.
- 5:39Many employees felt the rule wasn't about transparency but
- 5:42about control, and when it was overturned, it further weakened
- 5:46confidence in his leadership. Now the decision for Elon to
- 5:53move on also matters for government oversight and public
- 5:56trust. And influential figures like
- 5:58Musk take on powerful roles without clear lines of
- 6:01accountability or a clear plan that raises concerns about
- 6:05transparency and proper governance.
- 6:08His potential departure shows that it's difficult importing
- 6:13private sector CE, OS and billionaire bad boys like Elon
- 6:19to the public sector. The strategies, they cause
- 6:23disruption, they cause harm. And right now, neither Musk nor
- 6:27the White House have made an official statement regarding his
- 6:30future with Doge, though, I think Elon is running scared.
- 6:34He sees Tesla going down and he realizes that it's because of
- 6:41him and what he's done. He's blaming it on the left.
- 6:45People are attacking him not because of who he is, but
- 6:48because the actions that he's taken with Doge and other
- 6:52things. So he has to take accountability
- 6:55and stop blaming other people. And that's what I think is
- 6:59happening with Tesla. I think that's how people feel
- 7:01about Tesla. So right now, they think he's a
- 7:05bad guy. So they're not going to buy his
- 7:06cars. There's no way.
- 7:08There's no way they're going to buy a Tesla because Elon Musk is
- 7:10a bad guy. Very simple.
- 7:13If you have 3040 thousand $50,000 to spend on a car and
- 7:18you don't like the person that runs the car company, you're not
- 7:20going to buy that car. Just go someplace else.
- 7:23There's cars that are similar. They don't have all the bells
- 7:26and whistles of Tesla. They're good.
- 7:28Buy a Rivian. Rivians are great.
- 7:30You can buy a Subaru, not as good, but it's a cool car.
- 7:34You can buy a Hyundai if you want to.
- 7:37It's up to you. It's up to your political
- 7:40beliefs and if you like the company's owners and CEOs.
- 7:44So what's clear right now is that Musk's time in government
- 7:49has been as unconventional as his corporate career.
- 7:54His likely exit will end a chapter defined by his bold
- 7:58moves in the government. And it had unpredictable
- 8:03consequences. And he's expected to leave his
- 8:06federal post at Doge next month and not re sign with the
- 8:10government. His departure follows internal
- 8:13conflicts, his failed policies, and outside pressure from
- 8:18investors and friends and family to return to Tesla, SpaceX,
- 8:24Neurolink, all of his companies full time.
- 8:27Get out of the government. That's what they want.
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