Latest / Anchored by the Sword / From Wrestling Ring to Kingdom Calling: Redemption, Purpose, and a Life Surrendered with Nikita Koloff!
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- 0:00Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
- 0:02Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
- 0:05leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
- 0:08And I pray that you would take the stories that are talked
- 0:13about here today and share them with other people.
- 0:17Thank you so much for joining me and enjoy today's episode.
- 0:22Hey guys, welcome to this episode, the Anchor by the Sword
- 0:25podcast. I am really excited to introduce
- 0:28you guys to Nikita Koloff. He and I met back in 2022 at the
- 0:32NRV conference in Nashville and it was so cool to get a chance
- 0:37to meet him. And I'm ready for you guys to
- 0:40hear more about his testimony and just all of the things.
- 0:42So thank you so much for joining me today.
- 0:45Great to be with. I didn't realize it's been
- 0:46almost four years already. That's amazing.
- 0:50I know, isn't it insane? I can't believe it.
- 0:53I have AI have a friend of mine, a good Jewish friend of mine who
- 0:56says the days and weeks can drag on, but the years fly by.
- 1:01So the fact it's been 4 years that we've met, Yeah, I'm just
- 1:04like what you just said that I was like, wow, it's I feel like
- 1:07yesterday that we met. But just an honor to be with
- 1:10you, Gina. Thank you.
- 1:12Can you tell my listeners a little bit about yourself?
- 1:14I I can and, and by the way, just a side note.
- 1:17I, I love it. Anchored by the sword.
- 1:19I love that title. That's that's awesome.
- 1:23Yeah, I can, I mean, there's, there's a lot there, but I know
- 1:26at the end maybe we give a website where people can find
- 1:28out a whole lot more. But so so grew up in Minnesota.
- 1:34So we're, we're, so please pray for Minnesota, pray for
- 1:38Minneapolis, my hometown where, where I was born and raised.
- 1:42I'm sure you're aware of it's a mess.
- 1:44So please pray for, for Minneapolis and Minnesota in
- 1:48general. But that's why I was born and
- 1:49raised there in Minneapolis. And my dad left when I was about
- 1:533:00. So I was raised by a single mom.
- 1:55I was the youngest of four in elementary school.
- 2:00She'd move us out to the suburbs.
- 2:02And so I then grew up in a suburb called Robbinsdale, MN
- 2:08and went to junior College in Golden Valley, MN and then
- 2:12transferred up north to where they get a whole lot of snow as
- 2:15well. Moorhead, MN where I went to
- 2:18Moorhead State University, played football all through high
- 2:22school, college, scouted by the NFL.
- 2:25My my senior year, I had suffered some injuries in
- 2:28football that that set me back graduated from college with
- 2:34honors as a as a academic all American, which was amazing Gina
- 2:39since I didn't even like high like education back in high
- 2:42school, but I did embrace it in college and was training for a
- 2:47Pro Football tryout when a bunch of my buddies, a lot of my
- 2:51friends, we can get more into this if you want, got into that
- 2:54wacky, crazy world of professional wrestling.
- 2:58And then one of my friends who I recruited out of high school
- 3:01became a best friend who played football with me was one of
- 3:04those guys known as road warrior animal for the wrestling
- 3:09aficionados out there. He in turn, you might say,
- 3:13recruited me into pro wrestling. I became the quote the Russian
- 3:17nightmare teamed. I teamed up with Uncle Ivan
- 3:21Koloff, became Nikita Koloff and had what some consider a a
- 3:25pretty famous career in pro wrestling and then retired at an
- 3:31early age. Very unusual to retire at the
- 3:34age of 33 and then eleven months later found myself at an altar
- 3:39surrendering my life to Christ. And I'll just pause right there
- 3:43for wherever you want to take it from there, Gina.
- 3:47I love that and I love watching wrestling.
- 3:50I've watched it since I was a kid.
- 3:52I grew up in the Hulk Hogan days and all of those.
- 3:56And, you know, stopped watching it for a little while during
- 3:59some of the aggression era. That got a little bit too much
- 4:01for me, but. They call it the the Attitude
- 4:05Era. I think that's what they call it
- 4:06really pushed the envelope and it kind of yeah, yeah, I know
- 4:10what you're talking about. It was a little much for me for
- 4:13a while and then I watch it with my dad and my nephews and so
- 4:19it's something that we all watch together.
- 4:21For quite. A while.
- 4:22I started watching it again in 2015.
- 4:25But you said you came to Christ after you retired.
- 4:27So what events in your life are going on that led you to that
- 4:31point? That's a great question.
- 4:34So, so you know, for those who you know, probably not all of
- 4:37your viewers, your listeners are, are wrestling fans, but
- 4:41maybe they'll be inspired to to Google the name Nikita Koloff
- 4:44and and learn more, more about me.
- 4:47In fact, let me flash this why why I'm thinking of it.
- 4:50So for those that so that's one, just one of many wrestling
- 4:54titles that that I had won. This particular 1 is a replica
- 4:58of the N.W.A world television title.
- 5:02And so just want one of many accolades that I was able to
- 5:07accomplish in a in a shorter career than than most.
- 5:10And to directly answer that question, you know, I tell
- 5:14people, you know, I, I jokingly say again, part of my character
- 5:19was a Russian guy, right? That was a part of the storyline
- 5:23was that I was going to become the nephew of Ivan Koloff, as I
- 5:27mentioned, who is known as the Russian Bear, and that I became
- 5:32the key to call off the Russian nightmare.
- 5:35And part of that was was based on another character by the name
- 5:39of Dusty Rhodes, the American Dream, and me saying me saying
- 5:44I'm going to be your worst nightmare.
- 5:46From that came the Russian nightmare.
- 5:48And so it was a shorter career by choice, like I wasn't forced
- 5:53out or, or injury didn't cost me to retire.
- 5:58I did get injured in my final match, but that wasn't the
- 6:01impetus of my my retiring. And it would really, Gina just
- 6:06be through my retirement, looking to what the future held
- 6:10for Nikita Koloff, realizing something was missing in my life
- 6:16now. I didn't, you know, I didn't.
- 6:17I didn't grow up in Russia, ha ha, ha.
- 6:20But I also didn't grow up in church.
- 6:22That's not to say I never went to church.
- 6:25I knew the story. The man Jesus spikes through his
- 6:30hands, spikes through his feet, a spear through his side.
- 6:35But the story had never made the 18 strip from my head down to my
- 6:39heart. And so I was on this quest in
- 6:421993 for what life held next for Nikita Koloff now that I had
- 6:48this, quote, successful career in wrestling.
- 6:51I had met this Christian couple through other business ventures
- 6:54I was involved in, invited me to their church a few times.
- 6:58And really it was just a divine appointment.
- 7:00Gina. It was I called them up one one
- 7:03day and said, I'm going to be there Sunday.
- 7:05And they said, great, we'll meet you there.
- 7:07And it was there on the 17th of October 1993 that I realized
- 7:14what was missing in my life. I tell people I was successful,
- 7:18but I was unfulfilled. Yeah.
- 7:20I couldn't put my finger on it until that morning.
- 7:23Kind of an aha moment. I know what's missing is a
- 7:27personal relationship with Jesus.
- 7:31And it was in that moment I went forward, went to an altar, got
- 7:35on my knees, repented, gave my life to Christ and Gina.
- 7:40Life's never just been the same since that encounter.
- 7:46How have you seen God use you since following him?
- 7:51So, yeah, and I, so I didn't launch immediately into
- 7:54ministry. I actually wanted to just go get
- 7:58my hands dirty, you might say. I wanted to learn, you know,
- 8:01Jesus model servanthood when he washed the feet of the
- 8:04disciples. So I wanted to learn what
- 8:08serving others look like. So I went on overseas to
- 8:12Trinidad and Tobago, the island of Curacao, over to Angola,
- 8:18Africa, just to help build churches, a Bible school, just
- 8:23construction get my hands dirty. I went on three trips with with
- 8:27my my older daughters Tarantani on mission trips with them as
- 8:35chaperone to Columbia, SC, South Carolina, Columbia, South
- 8:42America, South Carolina. Although there is a Columbia,
- 8:46SC, Singapore, Moldova, part of the former Soviet Union.
- 8:53So I just went to serve for five years and and during that
- 8:58discipleship, the way I view it now, looking back during that
- 9:02period of being discipled and learning to serve in 1998, the
- 9:09Lord gave me Cola for Christ Ministries.
- 9:12We launched that ministry in 1998 and if you Fast forward to
- 9:172026, I now have been to a total of currently of 36 countries,
- 9:24all 50 states. I've preached in over 1500
- 9:28churches and I celebrate 20 years now of men's ministry.
- 9:34Hence the Shirt Man Camp alumni, one of my wrestling buddies by
- 9:38the name of Lex Luger. Some might remember.
- 9:41You probably remember that name, Gina Lex.
- 9:43The. Total Package gave us a vision
- 9:48for for a men's camp that we do called Man Camp in Georgia every
- 9:53spring and fall. And, and so I've been involved
- 9:5720 years now in men's ministry. So that's a kind of a snippet of
- 10:01what I do. I love that and yes, I I watched
- 10:06him get inducted. Yeah, yes, just recently,
- 10:10finally got inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame.
- 10:13We've done a lot of ministry over the years.
- 10:16He's got an amazing book out there.
- 10:18I would encourage people to get called Wrestling with the Devil.
- 10:21I actually, I'll just flash this real quick.
- 10:24That will tell people more. This one, let me pull that back
- 10:27there. This one is a life's life story,
- 10:30Ring and redemption. The key to ring and redemption,
- 10:33That's my full life story. This one wrestling with success,
- 10:38I tell people, is more motivational.
- 10:41The other one's inspirational. So we've done a lot.
- 10:44We've had in in fact him and I though I've ministered to an
- 10:48audience of 1 and the largest audience to date where he was
- 10:52with me was in Jamaica, an outdoor crusade Gina.
- 10:55Where we were, we were sharing our stories with over 73,000
- 11:01people in Jamaica. Wow, that's amazing.
- 11:05Yeah. Yeah, we saw, we saw thousands
- 11:08of people that night make a decision for Jesus.
- 11:11Amen. Amen.
- 11:13Well, you never know what he'll do when you say yes for the
- 11:15first time. You.
- 11:16You, you don't. And and for your viewers, your
- 11:19listeners, yeah. And that's it.
- 11:21That's the key. Just saying yes, just.
- 11:24And then once you say yes, surrendering, giving your life
- 11:28to Christ and then making yourself available, there's no
- 11:32telling what what he'll do. I mean, the plans he has for
- 11:36every one of us. I sometimes feel like I need to
- 11:41pinch myself when I realize what I get to do, what I get to do to
- 11:48to help build his Kingdom. And the fact, Gina, that he'd
- 11:51allow me to be a part of it is is humbling.
- 11:55Yeah. So I listened to one of the
- 11:59interviews that you did. It was actually one of the
- 12:01podcast episodes that you have out where you were talking about
- 12:05part of your story and you talked about your relationship
- 12:08with your dad, which you kind of hinted on a little bit ago.
- 12:12Is that something you want to dive into a little bit as well?
- 12:15Yeah, we can touch touch on that.
- 12:17And what of course what you're alluding to is it's time to man
- 12:21up the Man Up podcast. I do too.
- 12:23I do the Man Up podcast. It's time to man up with the key
- 12:27to Koloff and then Q&A with Koloff where where I actually
- 12:31call other people and then give them the opportunity.
- 12:35We flip the table. I'm usually asking all the
- 12:37questions like you are today on the Man Up, Man Up show.
- 12:42It's also a radio show on Truth Radio Network.
- 12:45Stu Epperson, the founder approached me about 5 1/2 years
- 12:48ago and he goes, you need a podcast, you need a radio show.
- 12:51And I'm like, well, where can I squeeze that in?
- 12:54But. God.
- 12:56Made it crystal clear was what I was supposed to do.
- 12:59So that show's been downloaded now in 109 countries.
- 13:03But that said to your question. So my dad leaves when I was
- 13:08three. He's really out of my life till
- 13:11my college days when he started coming back into my life to
- 13:15coming to my college football games, re establishing a
- 13:19relationship. But it was very superficial.
- 13:22You know what, It was pretty surface level, you know?
- 13:26Thanks for coming to the game today, Dad.
- 13:28You know, how's the weather? You know, boy, those Minnesota
- 13:32Vikings are having a good season, right, Dad?
- 13:35You know, that kind of thing. Fast forward into my 40s and
- 13:41into his 80s and there was a point in there where he had, as
- 13:46he used to say it grabbed the old rugged cross and became a
- 13:49Christ follower fact that his own radio show up in Minneapolis
- 13:54for many years was a part of the Billy Graham organization for
- 13:59the Crusades. And and in my mid 40s, God put
- 14:02it on my heart to start reaching out to him more, telling him
- 14:07something I had never told him before.
- 14:09And that was I love you dad. At first, Gina, he didn't know
- 14:14how to respond to that it it actually took see January,
- 14:18February, March, April, May actually took five months and on
- 14:22his 84th birthday of me reaching out, talking, carrying out
- 14:28building a relationship with him that for the first time in his
- 14:31life said the words I love you, son.
- 14:35On his 84th birthday. And then Gina, he became a part
- 14:39of the ministry. He became a part of the prayer
- 14:41team for Cola for Christ's ministries.
- 14:44A few churches actually brought him in to share his story of
- 14:48grabbing the old rugged cross. And then I would preach.
- 14:52So I'd like to say we had the Father, son of the Holy Spirit
- 14:55all present in those services. And and then I was fortunate to
- 15:00be there. He passed at the age of 92 and I
- 15:06was fortunate to be there, literally be there, spend the
- 15:10night in his room, the night he literally went home to be with
- 15:13the Lord. But the last words from his lips
- 15:18the night before where I love you son.
- 15:21Very last words that he spoke to me.
- 15:25That's awesome. I love how God restores what's
- 15:29broken. Exactly.
- 15:32So hope for your listeners and viewers out there.
- 15:36God is the God of restoration and reconciliation and he
- 15:41totally restored a father son relationship with me that I
- 15:45never had, you know, for those 40 plus years.
- 15:48Yeah. So as you were starting your
- 15:52journey with Jesus and as you go to today, what Bible verse or
- 15:58verses keep you anchored? So my current kind of what I
- 16:03call life verses is Colossians 110.
- 16:08And one of the reasons I really like that just that one
- 16:12scripture, it, it, it's broken down into four parts.
- 16:16So it's it's it's really challenges us in several areas
- 16:19of our life journey. People can go look it up.
- 16:22Colossians 110 I'll just kind of give give your listeners how it
- 16:26speaks to me. Part 1 is and how I pray that
- 16:32Scripture, not necessarily every day, but a lot of days is Part 1
- 16:37is Lord, I hope today that I can go out and just honor you today
- 16:43that I can live a life that's worthy of you today to carry the
- 16:48banner to carry your name and it come the end of the day that I
- 16:52have left a mark for your Kingdom and not a stain.
- 16:57So Part 1, living a life that's worthy of our Savior, right
- 17:02honoring his name. Part 2 kind of ties into that,
- 17:07that we can please him, that we would please him today.
- 17:11And I break it down this way, Gina, please him in every way
- 17:15through our actions, through our words and, and, and the the
- 17:21hardest one through our thought life.
- 17:24So a lot of times I'll say, Lord, I hope I can please you
- 17:26today with my thought life, the words that come out of my mouth
- 17:31and my actions. And if at any point in time I
- 17:34say something, do something, think something that doesn't
- 17:38honor you today, not worthy of you, then I, I, I hope that or I
- 17:43want to be quick to repent and ask you for forgiveness.
- 17:47Part 3 is bearing fruit. It says for every good work.
- 17:54So I want to be AI want to be a fruit bearer, right?
- 17:57I want to bear good fruit for God's Kingdom, right?
- 18:01And we many know should know Galatians 52223.
- 18:06If you're not familiar, go look that up.
- 18:09The fruit of the Spirit and just being able to bear that fruit
- 18:13for other people to other people.
- 18:16And last but not least, part 4 is to grow in the knowledge of
- 18:23God. Now, there's one thing about
- 18:26reading the word, studying the Word, memorizing the Word, and
- 18:31we should do all of that, but I emphasize moving the word from
- 18:35our head down to our heart, allowing God to write His word
- 18:40on the tablet of our hide it in our heart, write it on the
- 18:44tablet of our heart, and that then in turn, Gina will help us
- 18:48go out and live it. Absolutely.
- 18:53So I want to jump back a little bit into kind of bringing
- 19:00everything all together. So when you look back at your
- 19:05life, your career, everything that you've done since, what are
- 19:10some of the highlights that you would think would be on like a
- 19:14reel if you could build your own reel of your life?
- 19:17That's a great story. I'm convinced.
- 19:20Perhaps one day, you know, I mentioned, you know, the book
- 19:23form of my life story. It is an Audible form as well.
- 19:26People go on Amazon and they can download Nikita, A Tale of the
- 19:30Ring redemption and hear my full story, right?
- 19:33So the full thing highlights to my story.
- 19:37You know, looking back, I feel like there's been a number of
- 19:42what I call defining moments that have made me into who I
- 19:46currently AM. Now.
- 19:48I'm not complete, I've not arrived.
- 19:52We're all a work in progress and so it's just trusting that
- 19:57process of progress. However, that said, when I think
- 20:03back, you know, I mentioned like not growing up in church, right?
- 20:06But I knew the story and I can see and I feel like and even my
- 20:11dad had said to me. It's kind of interesting.
- 20:16Part of his testimony was when he heard I was getting into
- 20:18professional wrestling, he thought, oh Lord, we, we've lost
- 20:22him now forever. You know, we'll never get him
- 20:24back. He's going into that crazy,
- 20:27wacky world that we're just never going to get him back.
- 20:30And he was a prayer warrior man. He prayed for me, prayed for me,
- 20:34prayed for me. That said, he had said that once
- 20:40that our relationship was reestablished, that he could see
- 20:44how the hand of God was still on my life even though I wasn't
- 20:50serving God. And I look back at that and see
- 20:54these defining moments where, for example, I'm in high school
- 21:00and our I'm, I'm a sophomore, the senior captain, his name was
- 21:06Greg Sutton. Funny how you remember things.
- 21:08His name was Greg Sutton and he used to host during the week
- 21:13these meetings at his house called FCA, which stands for
- 21:18Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
- 21:21Now, I'm not a Christian, but I I went to those meetings every
- 21:24week. But here's the thing, I didn't
- 21:27go to learn about Jesus truthfully.
- 21:30Full transparency, I went because I thought it would build
- 21:33some brownie points with Greg and he put in a good word with
- 21:38the head coach so I could play on the varsity as a sophomore,
- 21:42right? So wrong motive.
- 21:45But that said, I'm still hearing about Jesus when I went, right?
- 21:51Because that's what the meetings were about.
- 21:52They were about Jesus. Fast forward to junior college.
- 21:56I mentioned I went to junior College in Golden Valley.
- 21:59Well, Gina, it was a Bible college, but I didn't.
- 22:03Again, I didn't go to learn about Jesus.
- 22:06I went because my first male mentor, Bill Burke, my 7th grade
- 22:11football coach, was now the defensive coordinator at that
- 22:15Bible college. I knew the head coach from my
- 22:18high school as well as several of the other coaches who were
- 22:21all from Robbinsdale. And so Bill Burke convinced me
- 22:25to come to junior college. So I didn't go to learn about
- 22:29Jesus. But guess what we had to do?
- 22:32We had, we had to take a Bible class every quarter.
- 22:36For the record, I tried to sleep through every one of those
- 22:39classes. I didn't.
- 22:41I did full transparency. But guess what?
- 22:44I still had to learn about Jesus, right?
- 22:48You know, I dated a girl whose parents were Christians.
- 22:52I would go to their church sometimes not to learn about
- 22:56Jesus, but thinking I could impress the parents, right?
- 23:00So just a few examples of how I look back, how God I I believe
- 23:09was kind of steering and directing my life.
- 23:12I'll give you one more example I I think your audience will
- 23:15appreciate. Let me give you 2 quick
- 23:17examples. Mickey Buseon.
- 23:20Who's Mickey Buseon? He was the fullback for our
- 23:23football team at Morehead State University.
- 23:26It was well known Mickey was a Christian.
- 23:29It's funny, I don't remember a whole lot of guys from names
- 23:33from those college football days or my high school football days,
- 23:37but I remember Greg Sutton and I remember Mickey Bewson.
- 23:41Mickey was a sold out, well known Christ follow a Christian
- 23:47and he modeled that. Fast forward to my wrestling
- 23:52days. I went out and I was one of the
- 23:56finalists for the role in Rocky 4, the Russian boxer Evan Drago.
- 24:03I didn't get the role. Dolph Lundgren got the role.
- 24:08Gina, I can look back and in fact, it's funny, we're having
- 24:11this conversation. I was just literally thinking
- 24:14this morning in my prayer time, my quiet time with the Lord, how
- 24:19I was actually listening to a sermon.
- 24:22If I've gotten that role, Ivan Drago in Rocky 4, I feel
- 24:30convinced you and I wouldn't even be having this conversation
- 24:33right now, Gina, that that role would have taken me in a whole
- 24:38different direction out to Hollywood.
- 24:43And I don't even know that that I would right now currently be
- 24:47surrendered to Christ and you and I have this conversation.
- 24:51So a few of the highlights of how I feel like God had his hand
- 24:56on my life leading me to that decision October 17th, 1993 to
- 25:03surrender my life to Christ. I love that and I did see how
- 25:08you said that you were a finalist for that role.
- 25:11Side note, that's one of my favorite Rocky movies.
- 25:15Yeah, yeah. Pretty, pretty amazing.
- 25:17It's funny. A lot of my buddies who knew
- 25:19that, like when they watch that movie or they think they're
- 25:21like, dude, that could have been you.
- 25:23That could have been you. And I'm like, yeah, could have
- 25:26been. But it was not meant to be.
- 25:28God had a different plan for my life.
- 25:32He had a bigger plan than me playing Ivan Drago.
- 25:38So I, I've loved getting a chance to talk to me, talk to
- 25:43you again because our meeting at, we actually met at the Truth
- 25:47Network booth and I just actually, I can't remember if I
- 25:52had just done it or if I was coming back to do it.
- 25:55My very first podcast interview. OK.
- 25:59Was with Sue. That was my very first one that
- 26:03I ever did of getting interviewed.
- 26:05Awesome. So, yeah.
- 26:08So where can people connect with you?
- 26:11You already talked about the books and you've talked about
- 26:14the other stuff, but let's go ahead and bring it all together
- 26:16where people can follow you and all the things.
- 26:19Yeah. And, and, and thank you again
- 26:21for having having me out again. I love it.
- 26:23Anchored by the sword. What's the sword?
- 26:26The word of God, the sword of the spirit, right, The word of
- 26:28God. So I'm, I'm trying to make it
- 26:30pretty easy. He like if people, if they want
- 26:33to link to my podcast radio show, if they want to find out
- 26:37more about man camp, which, you know, I haven't talked a lot
- 26:40about that. Yeah, I mentioned that God gave
- 26:42Lex Luger and I have vision for it.
- 26:44But I'll just briefly quickly mention what he and I do is
- 26:47bring small groups of men into a little town called Royston, GA.
- 26:52And over a five day period, we sow into, pour into challenge
- 26:59men to be men of God, godly husbands, godly fathers, godly
- 27:02grandfathers, of which I am now I.
- 27:05I have 14 grandchildren, Gina 14 and #15 on the way.
- 27:10And my youngest daughter, Colby and her husband Andrew are
- 27:13adopting their third child. That'll be #15 but if people
- 27:19want to learn more about Man Camp, have an interest in going,
- 27:22We like to bless military, law enforcement, first responders,
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- 27:30Or if you're none of those, we still have scholarship money to
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- 27:45Find out more how to get get books for me autographed
- 27:48personally by me all of that link to my social media
- 27:54kolof.net K0L 0F as in Frank F as in frank.net is a one stop
- 28:03shop to connect with me and learn more about me.
- 28:08Thank you SO. Much again for talking with me
- 28:10today was so encouraging to me and I know it will be for other
- 28:13people and especially the men too, because there's a lot of
- 28:18women's conferences and a lot of women's this, which is awesome,
- 28:21I love it. But there is also such a need
- 28:24for men conferences for men. There haven't been a lot in the
- 28:28last however many years. There's only been one that I
- 28:31knew of, but there's not a whole lot.
- 28:34So I think that's a huge need. It it we've we've seen that in
- 28:38the I believe, of course, God knows that need and, and taking
- 28:41the wrestling platform as it as a platform to reach out to men.
- 28:46You know, many of the churches I've gone and preached in the
- 28:49pastors grew up watching me wrestle like you watching me
- 28:53wrestle. That's in fact, I'll just say
- 28:55that too. If you're a pastor out there and
- 28:57would ever be interested, you know, bringing me in for a
- 29:00weekend and I do men's breakfast, men's conferences.
- 29:03I do men's men's dinners in addition to man camp and stay
- 29:08over preach on Sunday. There's ever as an interest in
- 29:13that. They can also direct message me
- 29:16through that website, koloff.net, put a request in and
- 29:19be glad to have a conversation with pastors.
- 29:22So thank you for having me on today, Gina.
- 29:25Absolutely. And you guys go have a great
- 29:27rest of the day and I'll talk to you in the next episode.
- 29:31Thank you so much for joining me for this episode, the Anchor by
- 29:33the Sore podcast. I pray that the story that you
- 29:36heard today will encourage your faith, challenge your faith, and
- 29:40also help you as you walk in your daily life.
- 29:44If this episode has done that, please feel free to leave a five
- 29:46star rating and review wherever you listen to this podcast so
- 29:51that others can find it and grow as well.
- 29:53Have a blessed week and I'll talk to you next episode.