Latest / Brian Thomas / Chief Scott Hughes - Violence in Cincinnati
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Considering the eleven year old got gunned down in a
- 0:03Speaker 1: playground and since he's West End just before seven pm
- 0:07Speaker 1: should never have happened. There is no justification for this.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And to join the program. Who has got some comments
- 0:13Speaker 1: of his own, the Hamilton Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Scott,
- 0:16Speaker 1: I saw your post the other day and I'm glad
- 0:18Speaker 1: to have you on the program this morning. Welcome sir,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and happy New year to you.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Glad to be back, Brian, Happy New Year to you
- 0:24Speaker 2: too well.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Christopher obviously very passionate about his criticism of the administration
- 0:29Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, and I know the residents of the
- 0:31Speaker 1: West End had been promised some cameras and some lighting
- 0:34Speaker 1: in this area for a couple of years. Only last
- 0:37Speaker 1: summer did they get one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
- 0:39Speaker 1: financial allocation to do that. And yet, of course here
- 0:42Speaker 1: we are standing today they have never been put in.
- 0:45Speaker 1: But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is,
- 0:47Speaker 1: as from I understand it, officers are stretched way too thin.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Brian. This has happened at large cities all
- 0:56Speaker 2: across the country. I've had a couple of folks reach
- 0:59Speaker 2: out to me inside the city of Cincinnati as an example,
- 1:02Speaker 2: and you know they're they're telling me that you've got
- 1:05Speaker 2: three police officers showing up for a roll call. Uh.
- 1:08Speaker 2: And some of the busiest districts in Cincinnati, you've got
- 1:12Speaker 2: you've got robberies that are occurring, and they don't have
- 1:14Speaker 2: enough police officers to establish perimeters. You try to catch
- 1:16Speaker 2: these bad actors after they commit these crimes, and you know, uh,
- 1:23Speaker 2: preventative excuse me, we can we can prevent crimes by
- 1:27Speaker 2: being visible, right, you know, I was using analogy, Using analogy,
- 1:30Speaker 2: what happens when you're driving up the highway and you
- 1:32Speaker 2: see a police car sitting in the turnaround in the
- 1:34Speaker 2: middle of the highway. You slow down?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Its determin right, Yes, I know that.
- 1:38Speaker 2: I mean, you know, think about it. Right. As soon
- 1:40Speaker 2: as you do, you slam on the brakes and everybody
- 1:42Speaker 2: slows down, and then you know that, and then they
- 1:44Speaker 2: resume after they passed the police car. Imagine if we
- 1:46Speaker 2: have police officers visible and in these locations. This eleve
- 1:51Speaker 2: year old kid is not dead, right, it's just it's
- 1:54Speaker 2: just something not going to happen. But when you've got
- 1:56Speaker 2: three officers shown up to roll call, uh, and they're
- 1:59Speaker 2: going call to call to call, and then when it
- 2:01Speaker 2: do get calls, they don't have enough people to handle
- 2:03Speaker 2: the calls. That is a recipe for disaster and unfortunately
- 2:06Speaker 2: then the end up in situations like this. So this
- 2:08Speaker 2: has happened all across this country.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Well, Chief Hughes, we have obviously known about the lack
- 2:14Speaker 1: of police officers or the limited number. Our contingent is
- 2:17Speaker 1: still way below where it's supposed to be, and maybe
- 2:19Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be isn't even quite enough. The solution,
- 2:22Speaker 1: obviously is to hire more police officers, lateral hires, of course,
- 2:26Speaker 1: new police classes. That does take time. But if the
- 2:29Speaker 1: administration had the will, if you had a pro policing administration,
- 2:35Speaker 1: one that understands exactly what you're talking about, more police
- 2:39Speaker 1: equals less crime, how quickly could we replace the contingent
- 2:43Speaker 1: of police officers? I mean, isn't that a logistical hurdle?
- 2:45Speaker 1: It's almost insurmountable these days with all the criticism of
- 2:48Speaker 1: law enforcement generally, Yeah.
- 2:51Speaker 2: You know it sure is, and that is a big
- 2:54Speaker 2: driving factor. You've gotten morales, it's just absolutely crushed and a
- 2:57Speaker 2: lot of these organizations and these these men and women
- 2:59Speaker 2: out up there in these uniforms are doing what a
- 3:02Speaker 2: buddy of mine calls the hardest job in America, and
- 3:04Speaker 2: they are doing it with pride and honor, and they well,
- 3:08Speaker 2: they are willing to risk their lives for people that
- 3:10Speaker 2: they've never met. But when when you're when you have
- 3:15Speaker 2: locality locations that are demonizing law enforcement, they're not supporting,
- 3:19Speaker 2: they're not given the resources that they need. It makes
- 3:21Speaker 2: a job be more challenging. And you know, I'm up
- 3:24Speaker 2: here in Warren County, we don't have those recruitment issues
- 3:27Speaker 2: because we are in a pro police uh location. Case
- 3:32Speaker 2: in point, there was a I'm sure you saw in
- 3:34Speaker 2: the news this weekend. They had a high speed chase
- 3:36Speaker 2: that came through Warren County. Multiple jurisdictions involved, and jurisdictions
- 3:41Speaker 2: up here took proactive approaches in that pursuit and take
- 3:45Speaker 2: these two individuals who are not from Warren County as
- 3:47Speaker 2: minunderstanding into custody and they will be held accountable up
- 3:52Speaker 2: here in Warren County. And it's just it's just amazing
- 3:55Speaker 2: to me the difference when you cross county lines and
- 3:58Speaker 2: in some places state law is just the difference in
- 4:01Speaker 2: what's tolerant and what's not and where you have recruitment
- 4:04Speaker 2: issues and where you don't have recruitment issues.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the recruitment issue problem could
- 4:09Speaker 1: be solved if the administration was more outspoken in favor
- 4:13Speaker 1: of police. The silence from the city is just deafening
- 4:17Speaker 1: when it comes to law enforcement and support of them.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And you know, having Iris Rolie say what you want
- 4:22Speaker 1: about Iris Rollie, but she is not a friend of
- 4:25Speaker 1: the police department. She's been paying six hundred plus thousand
- 4:28Speaker 1: dollars years under contract. Is a you know, sort of
- 4:32Speaker 1: a subcontractor employee of the city. You're not an employee
- 4:35Speaker 1: of the city, but a subcontractor, so she's free of
- 4:37Speaker 1: all these nepotism rules and everything. But because of her
- 4:40Speaker 1: very prominent position and her close connection with f tab
- 4:43Speaker 1: Provo and the Vice mayor, that sends a message just
- 4:47Speaker 1: in and of itself that's the city is not pro police,
- 4:50Speaker 1: and that to me would be a big step in
- 4:52Speaker 1: the right direction. Maybe get rid of her your thoughts.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm not familiar with her in particular down
- 4:59Speaker 2: there in the city, but I can tell you based
- 5:01Speaker 2: on what I've read and what i'm hearing, there's no
- 5:03Speaker 2: doubt that that's impact the morale, it's impacting the mental
- 5:06Speaker 2: women who are out there doing this job. It's certainly
- 5:08Speaker 2: going to cause hesitation. We have to be able to
- 5:12Speaker 2: proactively go after these these low level offenses. We know
- 5:17Speaker 2: there's a there's a ferry called broken windows policing to
- 5:20Speaker 2: target low up You know, if you target these low
- 5:22Speaker 2: level offenders, that's going to prevent these bigger cases from occurring.
- 5:28Speaker 2: But again, when you don't have enough officers out there
- 5:31Speaker 2: to make the traffic stops, to stop and have conversations
- 5:35Speaker 2: with people in the corners because they're going from call
- 5:37Speaker 2: to call a call again, it's just this recipe for disaster.
- 5:41Speaker 2: In like unfortunately we had a couple of days ago,
- 5:44Speaker 2: you have eleven year olds who are now victims because
- 5:47Speaker 2: the police officer's hands are tied, often by not their
- 5:50Speaker 2: own doing.
- 5:51Speaker 1: One can only pray that the murder of that eleven
- 5:53Speaker 1: year old is a straw that finally breaks the camel's
- 5:56Speaker 1: back of this anti police rhetoric that comes out of
- 5:58Speaker 1: our elected officials. Can only pray to God that we
- 6:01Speaker 1: get more police and you know, maybe the answer is
- 6:03Speaker 1: offering them more money. Scott, that's one dangling carrot. That's
- 6:06Speaker 1: certainly in the arsenal of options.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Isn't it. You know, those guys and galas down there,
- 6:12Speaker 2: they certainly are not ever going to be paid enough.
- 6:15Speaker 2: That is certainly going to help incentivize this. But I
- 6:19Speaker 2: think more important than that is they have to have
- 6:22Speaker 2: the support politically, knowing that if they make a decision,
- 6:27Speaker 2: it's going to be supported all it's right, not wrong,
- 6:30Speaker 2: good not bad. People are going to protect them. They're
- 6:33Speaker 2: going to have their back. They've got to be outspoken.
- 6:35Speaker 2: They got to be in front of us supporting these
- 6:39Speaker 2: men and women when they're involved in these situations. That's
- 6:41Speaker 2: how you That's, in my opinion, that's how you improve it.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Amen. And I tell you what I know, the members
- 6:45Speaker 1: of the Cincinna Police Department truly appreciate your support. Hamilton
- 6:49Speaker 1: Township Police Chief Scott Hughes. Keep up the words of support, sir,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and you're always welcome here in the morning show to
- 6:54Speaker 1: comment on matters law enforcement. Happy new year to you
- 6:57Speaker 1: and appreciate your support of law enforcement. Of running a
- 7:00Speaker 1: really tight ship there, my friend. Apparently a lot better
- 7:03Speaker 1: environment for law enforcement than it is in the city.
- 7:08Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, Brian again, happy to your thoughts
- 7:10Speaker 2: and prayers of the family.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Eleven year old exactly, Thank you Scott, he's been a pleasure.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Seven fifty seven. Right now brother Andre Ewing, brother Dre
- 7:17Speaker 1: in studio he'll be talking about crime.