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145: A Spirited Conversation with Deborah Graham, Psychic Matchmaker · Common Mystics

• 0:10
  Speaker A: On this episode of Common Mystics, we are honored to welcome an amazingly talented guest who may just have some invaluable advice for you in the area of love. I'm Jennifer James.
• 0:26
  Speaker B: I'm Jill Stanley.
• 0:27
  Speaker A: We're psychics. We're sisters. We are common mystics. We find extraordinary stories in ordinary places. But today, it's our honor to present to you our interview with a very special guest. Jill, take it away. Please introduce our guest.
• 0:44
  Speaker B: Yes. She is a naturally gifted psychic who began experiencing premonitions and visions at the age of six. As she grew to understand and refine her abilities, she felt called to use her gifts in the service of others, particularly in matters of the heart. With more than 30 years experience as a psychic, relationship expert and matchmaker, she has dedicated her career to helping people attract and recognize their true love and soulmate. She is the author of psychic Deborah Graham's guide to attracting and keeping your true love and hosts the podcast Psychic Connection, where she shares insights on love, energy, and spiritual alignment through her work. Her mission is to create safe, empowering experiences that harness psychic energy to foster meaningful, lasting relationships. Please welcome our honored guest, Ms. Deborah Graham.
• 1:40
  Speaker A: Yay.
• 1:41
  Speaker C: Thank you so much for inviting me. I'm so excited to be here and talk to you girls. You guys are adorable, by the way. You guys have beautiful angels around you. So you guys are definitely connected with the collective. You guys are on a higher frequency.
• 1:54
  Speaker B: Oh, I love it.
• 1:55
  Speaker C: I love it.
• 1:56
  Speaker A: Oh, thank you.
• 1:56
  Speaker B: Thank you so much. Okay, I'm gonna dive into my first question for you.
• 2:01
  Speaker C: Go for it.
• 2:02
  Speaker B: In the opening, we talked about you knowing you were psychic at the age of six. But tell me, when you realized not everyone was psychic, it was like you were part of a very small club.
• 2:14
  Speaker C: Well, to be honest with you, I like to call it a blessing and a curse because you can't turn it off. It's with you, like, 24. Seven. Seven days a week, 365 days each week. Year. So when I started for seeing premonitions, I would, like, speak to spirits. I would speak to my grandfather, who I've never met before, and I would say things that my mom would only know, or I would, you know, say things like, you know, about people from the other side. I knew our neighbor's house was going to catch on fire. It wasn't me. And then a few months later, it caught on fire. Like, these are things that have happened. But because I did come from a psychic family, it wasn't difficult for me because I'm third generation, so it was My grandmother, my mother, and then myself. So when I started having these premonitions and seeing things, it's just obviously, the older I got, the stronger they became, and I can't turn it off. It's like Whitney 24. Seven. Seven days a week, 365 days a year. I like to say my antennas are constantly buzzing.
• 3:10
  Speaker B: Very nice.
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  Speaker C: Wow.
• 3:12
  Speaker B: How do you turn, like, how do you. Where's your downtime? How do you kind of relax with all that going on?
• 3:18
  Speaker C: My husband says, let's watch a movie. And I'm out like a light. Like a lighted 30 seconds. When I. When I close my eyes, I just go, like, literally, no joke. I just leave my body. I go into a different rim of energy, and I just leave everything else behind. But when I'm up and I'm going, it's like, boom, boom, boom. I'm working 18 hours a day. I mean, I'm doing this stuff, like, you know, just coming out of me. I mean, I walk into, like, a store, I could feel spirits. I'm talking to people, and it's like, you know, how did you know that? I don't know. It. Spirit connects to me, and I'm just the messenger. So whether people are calling me live on the podcast the Psychic Connection with Deborah Graham, or if they're seeing me in person, I. I'm connecting to their soul spirit. And I'm just reading the energy, and we all have it. It's just some of us are more in tune than others. You know, it's kind of like you think you could sing, and everybody could sing. So everybody has their intuition, but not everybody's truly gifted all the way the way I am. And some of psychics out there that are very gifted, it's kind of like you enhance it, but trying to tap into something that you're not already born with, it's very difficult to be authentic. It's like, either you got it or you don't. That's the way it is. And that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
• 4:28
  Speaker B: I use that same analogy. That's so funny. I'm like, we can all sing, but we're not all Lady Gaga, right?
• 4:33
  Speaker C: Exactly. We do the best we can.
• 4:37
  Speaker A: So when you started telling your family that you were having these psychic impressions, how did they respond?
• 4:45
  Speaker C: You know, for me, it was very naturally and organically because I came from a family that already had that and somebody else. Of course, you know, the first thing they're going to do is take you to a therapist. But you. You Know, for electroshock, therap. Because people, you know, that say, oh, I'm speaking to spirit, or I'm feeling things are like, oh, that person's a psychopath. You know what is happening? No, for me, it was just very naturally and organic. And I actually made a dollar on my first reading when I was about seven years old, believe it or not, somebody actually paid me. I swear to God, this is not a joke. I read this guy, I told him something that was about to happen in his life, and he just started crying and he gave me a dollar. I swear to God. That was my first client at seven years old. And I was like, okay, this is. This is great. I'm able to read somebody, give them some advice. And I could actually make a doing this because it's like a calling, you know, and it's something that I was born with. So it wasn't difficult for me. It was very natural. And I wish that everybody out there who does have this gift and they start talking to their family about it, they don't just boohoo them and think there's something wrong with them speaking to the other side because we're a big, huge ball floating in the middle of the universe. You got to almost be kind of crazy to not think that there's something else out there that's deeper and larger than just us here on this planet. I mean, we're tapping into an electromagnetic force field out there.
• 6:02
  Speaker A: Yeah, I agree a hundred percent.
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  Speaker B: You mentioned that you come from a family that had psychics in them. So do you have a mentor? Did someone help you navigate your abilities, whether in your family or outside?
• 6:16
  Speaker C: Basically, it was my mom. My mom just said, trust your gut, you know, never, ever shut it down. She says, you're going to see good things, you're going to see bad things, and never be afraid to tell somebody something. And even if they don't agree to agree with you right there and then they will, because you're picking up on stuff. And sometimes, you know, people will be like, oh, I don't want to hear that. That's not what I wanted to hear. Well, I didn't really ask you for your opinion because quite frankly, I didn't give a damn. I told you what I seen, not what you wanted to hear. And that's what I tell people. If you don't want to hear the truth, then don't ask the question because it does come out very direct and very blunt. So I don't sugarcoat it. That's the way I've Always been just like that. And like I said, I came from a psychic family. My family's from Mykonos, so I'm Greek. So in the. In the Greek tradition, you know, it's. It was very easy for me because I was born with this gift. So, you know, we're constantly fighting off the Maya. The Maya is the evil eye. That's why we always have the Greek eyes on and stuff like that, keeping ourselves protected energetically. Because you're. When you're reading somebody and you're tapping, and I think both of you can agree to agree with this. We. We do have an. A tendency to take on other people's energy, so we absorb that. So, for instance, you could wake up and be in a great mood and feel really, really good, or you could be tapping into someone's energy or reading, and you absorb that. It can actually physically make you ill. It will make you ill. So you have to constantly surround yourself in white light, keep those evil eyes away, you know, and just, you know, surround yourself with the highest level because you don't know what somebody has on board. I mean, when. I mean on board, energetically, spiritually, it could be an entity. You don't know what the hell it is. You got to be care with some of that stuff.
• 7:52
  Speaker A: That's a great reminder. I have another question about your siblings. Do you have brothers and sisters?
• 7:58
  Speaker C: Oh, yes, absolutely.
• 7:59
  Speaker A: And were they all born with the gift?
• 8:02
  Speaker C: No, basically the specific, special one that was really able to connect and do this. Yeah, I would say they did have some intuition, but not the way that I have it and the way that I followed it. Now my girls, they have it. Believe it or not, both of my girls are intuitive. Yeah.
• 8:18
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 8:18
  Speaker C: Both of them. And I mean, my little one, my youngest one, Scarlet, it reminds me of me because she was so direct. Like, at 2 years old, she told somebody something that was going on with her in her eye. I swear, this lady was waiting on me, and she was like 2 years old, and she went up to her and she took her hand and she says, oh, don't worry, you're going to be fine. Your surgery will be well. I walk out and this lady is bawling in tears, and I'm like, oh, my God, what did my kids do? She slapped her, she hit her, she cussed her. I don't know what the hell was going on. And she was just like, no. And, you know, this was why I came in, because I was so afraid of this surgery. And she took my hand and told me it was going to be okay. And your eye, you know, your surgery is going to be fine. And she says, I'm having eye surgery. And I was just like, okay. She's got the gift. So that was kind of like our first experience with that one. Yeah. So, you know, it's. It's an intuition. It's your third shocker, otherwise known as the Gita. And the Gita is the energy that connects you to your mother's mother's mother. So it's kind of like our umbilical cord of ancestry. And when you connect with that vibration, you're connecting with a higher elevation. When you're connecting with a higher elevation, you're able to use these instruments as we all have it. And if you can tap into that, trust me, you would never make a wrong decision. You know, I like how you have that feeling, and you're like, oh, I. I really want to do this, but my gut's telling me I shouldn't. And if you just listen to your gut, you'll always be right.
• 9:45
  Speaker A: Mm.
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  Speaker B: Love it.
• 9:46
  Speaker A: Jill, I think you and Deborah have a lot in common, because Jill was also born different. Now, our grandma and our mom both had the gift, different gifts.
• 9:56
  Speaker C: Okay.
• 9:57
  Speaker A: Grandma was from rural Poland, so we grew up in the Polish traditions.
• 10:01
  Speaker C: Yes.
• 10:02
  Speaker A: Our mother was an astrologer. All of her sisters had some sort of intuitive gifts. All of our siblings and us have intuitive gifts, but Jill was born different. Jill was just born on another plane.
• 10:14
  Speaker C: Just talking frequency.
• 10:17
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 10:17
  Speaker A: But, like, for fun, we would go to the cemetery. Like, with our mother. We did Ouija board. She would do spells in front of us. Like, did you have that sort of experience, too?
• 10:27
  Speaker C: No, I run from that. But I'm sitting there thinking, hell, I don't want to go to the cemetery because those spirits are going to go home with me. I'm always protecting myself because they come to me. They speak to me all the time. And when I sleep, damn it, I want to freaking sleep because I'm working too much 18 hours a day, every day. So when I'm sleeping and I'm hitting that bed, you better leave me the hell alone, because that's my time.
• 10:49
  Speaker B: I love that. Now, I personally have said that before. Like, mama's got to sleep. Let me go to sleep. But sometimes they still come to you. So it's really just like a.
• 11:01
  Speaker C: No, no, no, dude. They come, and you got to understand, as you have the gift, they're feeling your energy, and they're like, oh, this is like an elevator. I'm able to jump on it. And get to the next level. So they're using you as a portal to communicate. So whether you, you know, know them or whether you know somebody who know them, they're coming in. Because you got to understand when you leave this earth, your body dies, your soul is still alive. That's why sometimes we come back in past lives and we come back because we didn't finish what we needed to finish. Or we're still learning over and over and over again. So really you're never dead, ever. You're always alive. It's just not an, I think physical forms. You have to learn how to communicate and connect. And obviously you are because you're connecting in the spirit. You know, you got to be careful what you ask for because you're going to get it. So when you use those instruments like Ouija boards, you know, there's a fine line between heaven and hell. Not that I'm trying to put any bad juju on anybody who doesn't. Personally, yes, I've worked with a Ouija board before. And just for the record, people who say, oh, that's not real, but people move it, no, it is frickin real as can be, I'm telling you. So I did it one time, one and done. And I swore I would never do it again. Because you got to understand where there's good, there's bad, where there's bad, there's good. So you have to be very careful in protecting yourself. Because when you're opening up a portal of energy, you're basically opening up those floodgates and woo. Winter. Winter chicken dinner. You better be careful because you're going to get it deep and large.
• 12:36
  Speaker B: There was a moment, and Jennifer, you remember this, that I was like, I wanna see spirits. I am ready to see spirits. I went to bed that night and I woke up because what I thought was my husband, cause he worked nights, was staring at me. So I opened my eyes and there's this figure in the corner of my room. And then it disappeared. And I was like, no, not ready for the spirit. Not ready for that. Yeah, so I.
• 13:01
  Speaker C: No, I totally can agree with that. Cause see, my mom passed away, God bless her soul, around 30 years ago. And she always said, I'm going to drown. Well, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. I'm like, mom, we have no fricking water for like, you know, three or 400 miles around. There is no water. How are you going to drown? She's like, I just know it, I just feel it. It's like, you know, intuitively she can feel it. And unfortunately, years later, she did drown. I mean, like, I don't know, like 8ft of water or something. It looked like an atrium. And she slipped and fell and she did pass away. It was very tragical. But I remember going to her at the, you know, the funeral home and I said, mom, I need to see you. I need to know that you're still with me. I need to know that we're able to still connect. Well, hell, she came to me that night. I swear, I cannot make this crap up. It was real as can be. You know, have you have some of those dreams and you're like, you want to scream but you can't get anything out. Well, I was up. I was like literally up. I felt her hand over me. I opened my eyes and I seen the silhouette and I said, hell no. Exactly what you said. We're not going there. So I swore I never wanted her to come to me again like that. And it was just so powerful. So she communicates with me in dreams, like all the time. Like all the time. We're always connecting and it's like she's never gone. Because I'm able to communicate with my grandparents, my mom. I mean, I'll give you guys a really, you know, great story, but it was scary at the time. So my younger daughter, the one that I said, you know, had the gift that went to a lady and basically freaked her out at 2 years old. When she was. She recently just had a little girl about two years ago, and she was really sick, like about six weeks later. But they were just like, oh, it's just a virus. It's nothing to worry about. You're totally fine, yada yada. And this went on for several weeks. And I'm like, you know, concerned about her. And, you know, by that point I already left and went back home. She lives in Georgia, Augusta, Georgia, and I live in South Florida. So around, I don't know what time it was, three or four o' clock in the morning, my mom comes to me in a dream, literally, and said, scarlett just had five babies. I said, no, she didn't. She just had one little baby. She was like, no, there's five babies. I'm like, okay. She goes, but if she's not careful, she's not going to be around much longer to take care of those babies, so she needs to get to the doctor. And I was like, okay, this is, this is something Spirit is telling me. So I got myself literally out of the dream. It was probably five in the morning. I woke up, I called my daughter. She answered the phone. She's like, I don't feel good. I said, I just seen your grandma in the dream. I said, I'm gonna send my girlfriend to come pick you up. So that way her husband was able to stay with the baby. You're going to the hospital now. She's like, no, I don't wanna go. I just feel like, you know, I'm just sick. I think it's a virus, blah, blah, blah. I said, you are going or I'm jumping in the car. She went to the hospital. She had five kidney stones blocking her. My daughter was septic in less than two hours, away from debt. I swear to God, I can't make this.
• 15:57
  Speaker B: Oh, my God.
• 15:58
  Speaker C: If I tried. Okay, so what I'm telling you, when spirit speaks, you better listen, because it takes a lot of energy for them to come in and cross over. But I swear, my mom saved my daughter's life because she was septic. I mean, she had five kidney stones. So it went into emergency surgery. Obviously, I was too far away, couldn't make it there. But I was like to the doctor saying, well, look, I'm on the way. I'm going to be coming. I'm like, nine hours away. He's like, your daughter has two hours to live. We're going into surgery right now. Luckily, everything was fine. Everything was okay. But can you believe that she said, five babies? Well, you know, they don't always explain to you exactly. I know.
• 16:34
  Speaker B: They can be so cryptic.
• 16:36
  Speaker C: Right? Exactly. It was five kidney stones. So pay attention to your dreams. I tell people all the time, keep pen and paper. If spirit is telling you something, pay attention. It could be about you. It could be about somebody else. You have to pay attention to the signs, and they come through, like, all the time. All the time, all the time. And that's the fun part about it. It's connecting with the other side.
• 17:02
  Speaker A: Deborah, thank you for sharing that. That was such a powerful story. I am like, my. I'm speechless. But I would never forgive myself if I did not ask you to explain your Ouija board story.
• 17:15
  Speaker B: I have to know what happened with the Ouija board.
• 17:19
  Speaker C: Well, it was actually me and my two brothers. Okay. And we were, you know, kind of, like, making it move and stuff. And. And I swear to you, that thing just flew. And the lights in the house, like, the light bulb just busted. And I was like, that is not an authentic spirit. That is an angry spirit. I said, we are releasing this and we're getting rid of it. And we are never touching this thing again. But, yeah, but it was just moving, and that thing just flew and the light bulb just busted. Like, literally light. Like. Like busted like a flame. It was so crazy. So, yeah, you know what? People, they love doing that. And again, I'm not boohooing it. Just personally, myself, I don't want to bring any energy in that is not authentic, and it's not of the highest good. So I did it one time, and it was one and done and never doing it again.
• 18:10
  Speaker B: That'll do it. That will do it.
• 18:12
  Speaker A: I think you also bring a lot of power to something like a Ouija board. Whereas the random person who really doesn't believe it and is just doing it to see if it works, I think it. I mean, I don't know. I can see how you personally touching it and participating in that could be a very powerful experience.
• 18:31
  Speaker C: So I was like, vibrator going deep and large in front of me. I swear to you guys. I remember I was, like, 14 years old, and it was like my whole body was vibrating. Unbelievable. It was like an electromagnetic force field. Did you know you're sitting here thinking, who's moving? This is somebody moving. This is it. The way, you know, you. You know, I'm. Even though I am psychic. Psycho, that's what I call myself, because you never know what's coming, Mouth. But at the end of the day, you know, I'm that kind of person. Prove it to me. I'm very black and white. I have to feel it, see it, and know it. And when you're connecting with that spirit, as I like to call it, the white light and the violet flame, you're connecting with the energy from your angels and your spirit guides. And, I mean, obviously, you girls have it. Both of you have it.
• 19:14
  Speaker B: Thank you.
• 19:16
  Speaker C: These girls are on fire. You guys got it.
• 19:19
  Speaker B: What did your. How did your brothers react? Because they don't have the same gift as you go.
• 19:25
  Speaker C: You know, they looked at me like, what the hell? You know, you can tell. Let me put it to you like that. I. At that moment in time, I remember seeing the whites of their eyes. It was like, whoa. Yeah, it works.
• 19:37
  Speaker A: It works.
• 19:38
  Speaker C: Oh, no. We did that once, and I don't think anybody ever, ever talked about that again. That experience or did we ever want to touch it again. Wow.
• 19:48
  Speaker A: Well, Jill, I am ready to talk about love.
• 19:52
  Speaker B: I. Well, I have a. I agree. I. I do. But I want to ask, how would you counsel a mother or parents of a child that is experiencing these types of impressions? And visions and premonitions.
• 20:08
  Speaker A: Oh, good.
• 20:08
  Speaker C: Question number one. I tell them, do not take your kid to a psychiatrist because they're not crazy. Like, I had a client many, many years ago, and she did not pay attention to the signs of what her child was telling her, okay? And he kept telling her, there's something. There's something going on. There's something going on. I'm feeling it, I'm feeling it, I'm feeling it. And she kept medicating him and medicating him and medicating him, and the turnout wasn't good at the end. You know, And I always say that you have to pay attention to your gut, because when a child is having premonitions and they're feeling something, you have to be able to navigate them. Like, is this authentic? Is this something obviously, that is psychosis. You know, I do believe that there is a time and there is a place to take a child to a therapist or cognitive behavioral therapist or a psychiatrist. And sometimes they do need to put on medications because there is such a thing of called psychosis, okay? Or is it that their spirit is really communicating? So when they start saying things like, I'm speaking to spirit, or I'm speaking to my grandfather, or I'm speaking to granddad, and he's in the room with me, and he's directly speaking to him and saying things that you would only know, or knowing what he's wearing or talking about it, you know, you got a psychic kid there, okay? And these premonitions don't start when you're like 30 or 40 or 50 or 60. They started when you were young, but chances are you were afraid or you did say something to your parents or you said something to somebody, and they basically, you know, made fun of you or boohooed you like you were crazy. So you suppress them, okay? And you did not listen to them, so you pushed them. And as I like to say, you stuffed them up there in your big toe. So later in life, you start having these premonitions, you start feeling these vibrations, these energies, and then you start to awaken that energy again. But it does not mean that you just started this. You were born with this. This was a gift. And I will tell your listeners out there, if you have this gift, if you have this feeling or if your children are experiencing things, do not, like, intimidate them and make them feel uncomfortable. Let them talk about it. You know, don't, like, kind of, like, guide them and tell them, oh, well, you know, are they saying this? Are they saying that so you don't want to put words into their mouth or put words into their heads. You want to be able to let them speak it and express it, you know? And sometimes another thing that happens is some children do not speak early on. Like, sometimes it takes until 3, 4, or even 5 years old before they start speaking because they are communicating with the other side. So it doesn't always mean that there's a situation going on. It just means that they are learning because they're intuitive. And sometimes it takes some kids a little bit longer to speak because they are still connected to the other side speaking. Or they could even be in what they call portal realities. This is kind of interesting, where they could be from a past life, and they're still kind of like in between, you know? And again, I'm not saying not to take your kid and have them evaluated. I absolutely believe in both parts, having them evaluate it. But also taking them to speech therapy, but also at the same time is continue communicating with them, because chances are they want to get the words out, but they're feeling stuck because they actually are feeling connected to the other rim of energy. I seen this millions of times.
• 23:40
  Speaker B: That's so interesting.
• 23:41
  Speaker A: Fascinating.
• 23:44
  Speaker B: Jen, do you want to get ready for Love Talk?
• 23:46
  Speaker A: Yes. Is it time? Is it time?
• 23:48
  Speaker B: It's time. It's time.
• 23:49
  Speaker A: Okay, Deborah, when. When did you turn your attention to matchmaking? How did it come to you to apply this gift that you have to helping people find their love matches?
• 24:02
  Speaker C: Well, the funniest thing is I never looked for it. It found me. It was a cute little story. I'm going back over 30 years ago. I had a client that came to me as a medium because his wife recently passed away. And, you know, they were married for, like, I don't know, 40 years or something at that point. And he was just very lost. So he used to come in once a week, twice a week, three times. Before you know it, he was coming in, like, four or five times a week. And I was like, oops, becoming very codependent here. And then recently, I had another client that lost her husband. So I made their appointment on the same day at the same time, and then I had another appointment. So they were out there for a little while speaking to each other. So I came out after I was done with that appointment, and I said, oh, you guys had a chance to meet each other. I says, you both have something in common. Both of you lost your spouses. You guys should go out sometimes for lunch or dinner, because this might be a good connection. For you guys. And they were like, oh, my God, Deborah, that would be great. Could you chaperone us? And I'm looking like, are you kidding me? I was like, look, if this is going to make these two people happy, I will do whatever it takes. So we went to like Long John Silver's. I'm not joking. Or it was Long John Silvers or Captain D's, I can't remember, but I know it was on a Wednesday. And we went before 6 o' clock because we got like the senior discount. This is not a joke, I swear. So we went and after that point, they ended up getting married a few months later. About three months later, they got married. They stood together until he passed away. And. Right. They were together for five years. And on his deathbed, he called me and he said, deborah, I want you to come visit me at the hospital. And he was a veteran. I mean, he was very high up in the military, God bless his soul. And he gave me a little angel that I actually still have. And he said, this is your calling. He says you are amazing. Psychic and a medium, but he says you are truly a gift to help people find their soulmates and match. And that's when the psychic matchmaker was born. I swear it just happened like that. And then I was like, I started using my gift to connect people who I knew that would either come to me or somebody, you know, that they were trying to connect with. I mean, I always worked with love and relationships, but that's how the psychic matchmaker was born. It was really from that one match. And the way it happened, I was like, wow, this was a beautiful connection. And he found another life after losing his wife and was very happy and content. And I've been able to help thousands of people around the world, whether they're in a relationship already, whether they're trying to find love. And that was my first match. Now listen to this. This man was over 80 years old. So my first match was 80. Over 80 year old. So if I can do it for an 80 year old, I can do it for anybody. Trust me on that one. So my matches go anywhere from, you know, 30 years old all the way up to 90 years old.
• 26:55
  Speaker B: No joke in that scenario. You had two people in mind. But often when I was, when I was binging on your. On YouTube, I noticed that you had maybe one person that you were counseling. Do you see the other person, like, physically that's out there for them, or are you picking up on that energy? How does that work?
• 27:17
  Speaker C: Okay, both. So basically let's just say a client is calling into the Psychic Connection podcast. They want to know about love. And they might have a question. Well, did I meet that partner? Did I meet that soulmate? They would just give me their first name, their date of birth, or one question, and then I would channel and say, yes, you've already met that person. That person is there, but they're not ready for you, yada, yada. Or it could be somebody they knew 25 years ago, or it could be that I'm, you know, counseling somebody one on one, and they don't have anybody, but I'm feeling that person is coming in. So I will help them navigate to help them find that partner, that lover, that friend, that companion, or the one that got away. Because I always say it's always about timing. And if you don't pull out the weeds, because I like to call myself the human weed whacker, I actually help, help all of my clients get rid of the old and worn out energy in order to prepare them. Because they may say, oh, I want a love match. I want you to help me find somebody. I'll say, no, you got to work on you. Because the first rule of thumb is if you don't love you, nobody else, I repeat, will ever love you or respect you until you respect yourself. Yes, a relationship, this is a big one. It's got to be 50, 50. You have to have to be willing to give up 50% of your time, okay? So it can't be on your schedule. You have to be willing to make the time to take the time and not be like, well, this is intervening with my massage or my Pilates or this or that. Because, you know, you have a lot of serial daters out there, and they just want to swipe left, swipe right, and they just want to complain. And if somebody's always complaining that their partners are always the one, that's when I usually say, Runway, you still have your head attached to your body. Because if someone constantly complaints and complaints and complaints, it always says that it's everywhere. Everyone else, and they're never the problem. That's when we have to go deep and large. And that's where I pull out and give them a Deborah Graham enema, otherwise known as a come to Jesus moment, and figure out, where's their trauma bonds, where's their blockages? What are you holding on to? It could even be something karmically that your normal, average therapist cannot help you with because therapy is not going to understand where your trauma bonds come from. If it is something emotional you're holding onto from a past life. So it's like getting down to the root core and finding it. So to answer your questions, I do it all of the above. It's kind of like a one stop shop. I like to call it the Happy Meal deal.
• 29:40
  Speaker B: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 29:42
  Speaker A: Okay, so someone comes to you and let's just assume they've had the enema. They're ready to go.
• 29:48
  Speaker C: They, they did it all. They just released it deep and large. They got it done.
• 29:52
  Speaker A: Let's say that, that you feel like they are ready to find love. And you tap in and you can sense. Sense that the person for them is out there at that point. That sounds to me like a psychic Where's Waldo situation.
• 30:05
  Speaker C: Like, absolutely.
• 30:06
  Speaker A: What do you do? Like, what is the next step to like locate this, this love match?
• 30:11
  Speaker C: Well, that's when my antennas start buzzing and that's when the vibrator starts. Girls. Okay? That's when I'm going deep and large and I'm actually navigating them. I can come up with names, places, some colors of hair. All that stuff comes in. Oh, no, no. It's like very pacific. Okay. Oh, and, and a lot of times I get these clients that'll come to me and say, I broke up. I'm never going to date. I'm going to just sit on a rock until I'm 90 years old. And I'll be like, you know what? You're not meant to sit on a rock until you're 90 years old. You're holding on to fear. You are your own worst enemy. You're bringing this in. And that's where I help them brain train to actually clear out so they have the instruments to be open. Because 90% of our dating problem is, is there's too many options. Think about this, okay? This is very logical. See, I'm very logical. Okay, yes, I'm psychic, I'm psycho, but I'm very logical, right? So the reality is you have to be able to, number one, be patient. Love is about patience, okay? And it is a 24 7. Seven days a week, 365 days a year, okay? And you have to be willing to put time to make time to be in that relationship. And it's about a give and a take. Because nobody died and made any of us king or queen. So get off your throne. And even if you are a king and queen, nobody's going to bow to you and give you everything you want 24, 7. Because the truth of the fact is when you're bringing that love and you're bringing that energy to the table, number one, it's your body language, okay? And I always tell people, you know what? I get it. The dating apps are out there. But try to get your head out of your app, literally, okay? And try to get out there and meet people. Even if that person is not right for you, you might know somebody who might be right for that person, and maybe the same thing is going to happen to you. So it's about paying forward. But just dress up and show up, even if you don't have anywhere to go. You know, go to Starbucks. Go to the bar set at the bar. I don't care if it's like a Applebee's set there. Have conversations, okay? But if you're sitting there with a. A prune face, you know, and you're just looking at everybody, nobody wants to be near you like a bat out of hell. So it's what your body projection and what you're projecting. So if you can visualize yourself, because I'm a major manifester in visualizing, so I'll tell a lot of my clients. For instance, visualize that relationship as if it has already happened, because it's all about an energy connection. And when you do that and you open it up, then you're able to connect with that, that soul energy. And it can happen within three days, three weeks. I mean, it can happen in three hours. It's amazing how it works. But sometimes your fears is what blocks you. So get those fears out. Visualize them leaving and opening it up. Because, listen, if your relationship didn't work out, there's a reason it didn't work out. The timing could have been wrong. Maybe you were with that person only for a reason, a season. Maybe that person and you were only supposed to be together to have children. There's so many, many factors that go on. But I think what happens in the dating world is, is that we have a hard time letting go, and we have a hard time with forgiving. And, you know, you have to be able to release that in order to open yourself up and get to the next level in life.
• 33:26
  Speaker A: Yes.
• 33:27
  Speaker B: When you are connecting with a client, is there ever more than one option out there?
• 33:34
  Speaker C: Oh, God, there could be 10 options out there. Heck, yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 33:37
  Speaker C: And, you know, three kinds of soulmates out there. I don't know if you guys ever heard this before, but there's soulmates, there's connecting soulmates, and then there's twin flame soulmates. So let's talk about the twin flame. Only 10% of the world gets to meet their twin flame soulmate. Now, what is a twin flame? A twin flame can be the highest of highs and the lowest of lows because you're looking at a mirror of yourself. So if they're in a good mood, you're in a good mood. If they're in a bad mood, you're in a bad mood. But it's one of those things that you're tapped into that person 24, 7. Seven days a week, 365 days a year. Then you have connecting soulmates that you were only meant to be together to bring a child into this earth, right? Or you were only supposed to be with them for a short time, not a long time. Then you have soulmates that you connect with, and it could be your best bff. So there's so many different levels of meeting a soulmate, meeting a partner, meeting a forever. But when you connect with somebody, and this is a biggie, if you could say five things about that partner you're with that you absolutely love, and then there's five things on your other hand that you absolutely hate about them, believe it or not, that's a keeper. Because no one, no one in this earth is perfect. The world is not meant to be perfect. It's all about trial and error and learning. But it's kind of like, you know, I have a lot of female clients, a lot of male clients. They'll be like, oh, my wife cheated on me. Well, have you guys not been intimate? Have you not been connecting? They're like, no. I said, well, baby, it's just like a dog. If you don't feed it, honey, it's going to find something somewhere else. So you have to give a little head, girls, to get ahead, if you know what I mean.
• 35:07
  Speaker B: And stop picking up what you're dropping down.
• 35:11
  Speaker C: Hell yeah. Get. Get it done. Go deep. Go large.
• 35:15
  Speaker A: Okay, wait, so do you also.
• 35:18
  Speaker C: Hold on, I got you with that one. That's a situation, girl. Get them cops. Wets out.
• 35:28
  Speaker A: Did you. Are you ever in a situation where you find yourself as a marriage counselor?
• 35:32
  Speaker C: Like, do people come all day long? Are you kidding me? Yeah, but this is the interesting is they're not telling me anything. They're just sitting there looking at me. They'll give me one question. If I'm doing it live on the radio show, the Psychic Connection podcast with Deborah Graham, or if they're doing it in person, they'll just sit there, and then I'll just start channeling and I leave my body and I just start telling them things. And when you go to a therapist, you got to tell them what you're looking for, because they're not. Not therapists. They're only going to be. I mean, they're not psychics. They're therapists. They're not going to go by what you're, you know, thinking. They're going to be able to help you if you tell them what's going on, and then they'll try to help you deal with it, but you're really helping yourself. So the difference between me and your normal marriage counselor is I'm telling you where your blockages are at. I'm telling you how they started, and then I'm actually giving you the instruments to help yourself flush it out and release that energy so you're good for yourself and others. I don't like to do couples counseling, although I have done it several times. Oh, that can get. That can get to be a situation. You know what I'm saying? So I'm throwing a lot of f bombs. I'm like, shut the F up. You be quiet so that person can talk. You shut up so that person can talk. And it's not all about you. So, you know, it. It can get crazy. And then it makes me nuts. So I try not to do the couples counseling only if and when I choose. And that's maybe 5% at a time. 95%. No.
• 36:58
  Speaker B: I have run across in doing readings for people, the perpetual person that will not give up, even though the signs like, door slammed in face, don't talk to me anymore. And they're still grasping on hope, and I cannot, no matter what I say, they will not let it go. How do you deal with that?
• 37:21
  Speaker C: Well, it's a karmic contract I'm going to explain to you, and this will probably help you with some of your clients, too, to kind of like navigate. So you're seeing it and you're saying this. This partnership is over. It's not meant to be. You know, it was kind of like one and done. They're using you. They're doing this, they're doing that. But it could be that the client has trauma bonds from a past relationship with this person. So this could be a soul connection, and they could still have course. Okay. So they almost have to work through it, even though they already know that it's not going to work. They hear you loud and clear. Okay. But for some unknown reason, they can't let it go because it's part of their karma. And until they release that and figure out exactly naturally and authentically why is this happening? Why is that blockage there? Why am I not able to free it? Then they could finally release it, but they got to know that it's happening on their terms and conditions. So this is basically what you're going to tell them. I know that this relationship is not going in the right direction, but it's up to you whether you want to hold them or fold them. But you have to go through the life lesson, you have to go through the learning experience. And even if that person comes back and, you know, tells them, oh, I love you, I want to be with you, and then three months later, you know, they're getting screwed, lewd and tattooed by, you know, another person that they're with. Let them go through that because you could only protect them so much. And a person has to go through that life changing experience. So even though it may seem like this relationship is not going to work out, they have to go through it because it's part of their karma. And then your goal is to help them and navigate them to get through it.
• 39:00
  Speaker B: Got it. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.
• 39:03
  Speaker A: What about that person who is continually picking the wrong partners? Is that, is that the same issue just manifesting differently or is that a.
• 39:15
  Speaker C: Different issue that's called a loser magnet?
• 39:17
  Speaker A: Oh, explain why, why do those exist? Why are people loser magnets?
• 39:23
  Speaker C: Well, because again, by the way they were raised, by the way they were brought up, okay, so certain situations are that they were in a relationship that maybe their mom and dad were not together, maybe they came from a broken home. Or it could be that that's just the stuff that they were fed. Because if you sit there and really think about it, a child is learning from 0 to 7. I repeat, from 0 to 7. This is when all the information gets download, okay? So it's very important to go back at your younger self and figure out why am I blocking myself from somebody Good. Because there could be 10 great, you know, candidates, but one of them, just one of them is the unhealthy one. Chances are you're going to pick the unhealthy one because that's what you're used to, okay? You're used to being in an unhealthy relationship. You're used to being with somebody who's constantly, you know, putting you down or telling you you're not this, telling you you're not that. And you have these other, let's say nine candidates that are great, but you're not Feeling a connection, because you're only used to that one way, you know? So, again, I deal with a lot of that, and that's where I have to help them and heal them. So really, more than ever, instead of helping somebody find their soulmate and matching them, you have to help them heal through that, because what's going to happen is they're going to want to go through that. Like, I have many clients that are like, well, I only date older men. I don't want to date a younger one. Well, guess what, you're away. Sucks up the butt without the KY jelly. So we're going to try it my way. So we'll connect them energetically with somebody who would be younger, whether it's 5, 10, 15, even 20 years younger. Feel that energy. And they'll be like, holy crap, I never seen it like that before. So it's almost like you got to yank them, shake them upside down, give them that spiritual enema so they can release the trauma in order for them to see things. But you have to be very persistent in don't give up on love, because love is out there. It doesn't matter if you're 20 or 100. Literally, it's out there. And we're not here for a long time. We're here for a damn good time. So take each and every single one of your days like, as if it's your last. Because what will happen is if you don't get it right in this lifetime, unfortunately, you have to come back the next life to do it again and again and again and again and learning. But, yeah, there's a lot of people out there with the loser magnet. And not everybody is matchable and not everybody is fixable. I've had several clients come in and I'll just say, baby, you're not marriage material. Not in this lifetime. You know, you're meant to have a for now, not a forever. Enjoy life. Be the serial dater. Go out with as many people as you want. And some people like their four corners. They think they want it, but they don't want it. And when you give them that permission, it actually sends a cellular message to your left and your right side of your brain, and it makes it okay. Sometimes that's what people just need to hear. That it's okay that I don't have to be like everybody else, the white picket fence. Get married at a certain age, have kids. No, you don't have to do that. You don't got to keep up with everybody else. Do what makes you happy. Bust out. If you're not feeling love in a partnership, in a relationship and you just feel like you're being energetically or psychic attack. And that person only talks about their self and it's always about them. And every time you get around them, you get a stomachache, you want to throw up, or you have some diarrhea, that's when you need to run. Do not be in an unhealthy relationship and don't be afraid to step outside your comfort zone because that's what life is about. Just think about it. How many trillions of cells did it take you to get here? It took millions and trillions of cells for you to even be born, if you even know that. So think about what you went through to get here on this earth. Hurt. It's not that hard to cut that cord. And there's always love out there. It's just finding the right shoe because you don't want to get no corns on the bottom of the feet.
• 43:21
  Speaker B: So if, if people are listening, which we know they are, and they're hearing you speak, what could be indicators that they may be in a relationship that may be for the season? Maybe something that it's a learning experience rather than their forever person. What would be indicators for them?
• 43:41
  Speaker A: Them?
• 43:41
  Speaker C: If they're putting 100% of their undivided attention into that person and that person is just constantly taking and taking and taking. That's a red flag. Another red flag is that person is never making time for you. You know, he or she, whatever it may be, is always on their cell phone. They're not making time for you. You're having a conversation one sided. It's all about, you know, all about them, not you, not listening to you. And the little things, it's not about going and giving you a big rock or buying you a, you know, a $2 million home. It's the little things, things that pay attention. Wake up, hug that person. I always hug my husband every morning and every night. We probably touch seven or eight times a day. Just touching energetically because it's about that energy, vibration, you know. And I've been married to the same man for over 30 years. We have, you know, three kids, four grandkids. And by the way, my marriage was arranged, so I was the big fat creek wedding.
• 44:34
  Speaker B: Oh, wow.
• 44:35
  Speaker C: The proof is in the pudding. And I'm it.
• 44:39
  Speaker A: Wow. Congratulations. What a success story.
• 44:41
  Speaker C: It worked. We're still together and we still have that energy. Guys, come on. I'm Greek and he's Irish. So you know New shoes getting thrown in the wall now and then, ain't nothing wrong with that. Throwing a few f bonds, ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm very verbal, I speak my mind, I don't hold anything back. And I think that's what makes a strong, dedicated marriage is truth. Being honest, being vulnerable, being open, taking a chance. I mean, he's done so many things like, you know, to make me happy that you gotta sometimes give a little head to get ahead, if you know what I mean and stuff.
• 45:17
  Speaker B: How nervous were your kids to introduce you to their significant others or their love interests?
• 45:24
  Speaker A: Oh, good question.
• 45:26
  Speaker B: Cause I'll tell you right now, all.
• 45:28
  Speaker C: Three of their marriages are raped. Wow. Yes.
• 45:32
  Speaker B: You're hands on.
• 45:34
  Speaker C: Yes. Oh yeah. I can't keep this woman down. I go deep, I go large. Yep. I have a 22 year old granddaughter, a 15 year old grandson that's from my older son that's been with his wife for, oh my God, 25 years or whatever it's been now. I mean, it's been a long time. They've been married for a long time. He was super young, he was 17, a little younger than I wanted, but it was still connecting. Knew the family, bond it together. My middle daughter as well is an arranged marriage. They have a four year old and my younger one also an arranged marriage and they were solid. And my mom and dad were arranged too. Now this is the craziest thing, little nuts, but my dad was 13 years old and my mom was 19 when they got married. And they stood together till she passed away. Can you believe that? And they lied. They lied. My dad looked older, my mom thought he was 18, he was only 13 years old, getting ready to turn 14 years old. They had me when I was very young. I think I was like before they were 15 or something. Before he was 15, my mom was.
• 46:31
  Speaker A: Like, yeah, that must have been so cool to have. But they shot together.
• 46:36
  Speaker C: Well, back then I guess it was okay. I think today, what is that called? Slavery? I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Whatever. Rape, I mean, hell, it's rough. But it worked. It worked. They stood together. And like I said, that's what I kind of do for people. I help them arrange their marriages, you know, and of course it's not like we forced them and said, oh, you're going to marry this one, you're going to do it now. My mom did that to me. I'm not going to lie you, she forced me to marry my husband. I did not want to get Married. She was like, no, you're becoming an old maid. You need to get married. You need to marry him now. And I was like, what? I don't want to get married. I want to live my best life. She says, no, because one day I'll be gone, and what are you going to do? So she made me want to get engaged to my husband, and I said, no, I'm not doing this. So I. I fought back. And then she made me go live with my aunt for about three months that basically, you know, was in her 70s and never was married. And all she did was watch back in the day, I think it was like, QVC or something. So after being there for three months, I said, holy crap, this is going to be my life. So six months later, we got married, and here we are. I mean, yeah, we're hitting 40 years, dad.
• 47:44
  Speaker B: Oh, congratulations. I love your mother. That was smart.
• 47:49
  Speaker C: And she's seen it. She said, this is. This is your. This is your partner. You're going to do this. And I was like, what if I don't want to get married? I was. I'll tell you right now, if my mom did not, God bless her soul, push me, I will guarantee you that I probably would have never been married, and I probably would have never ended up having any children or grandchildren because I was just so. In my head, I was like, you know, a worker bee. I was so happy in my own little life, you know, and doing my own thing, that I did not feel that I needed anyone in my space. I was just so content doing my own thing, you know? And I think she had to, like, shake me up and be like, hey, this is what you need to do. So definitely my mom's energy has rubbed off because I am the can do it person. I don't believe in no possibilities. Everything is a possibility. You can't. You are, and you will. So I believe in the three A's. Awareness, action, and accept it, make it happen, and do it now. Find your action, find your awareness, and find your acceptance. Accept the things you can't change, and just move on and live your life today.
• 48:57
  Speaker B: Love it. Wow.
• 48:59
  Speaker A: So your grandmother and your mother and you all arranged marriages, right?
• 49:06
  Speaker C: Pretty much so.
• 49:07
  Speaker A: And you're coming from a long line of matchmakers.
• 49:10
  Speaker C: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 49:12
  Speaker A: Feel like you're. You're living in their legacy, like, continuing.
• 49:16
  Speaker C: I feel like I'm. My mom. Yeah. My husband keeps asking me, when am I going to, like, retire and slow down? And I'm like, yeah, we're going to do that. Sure. Thing. Yep.
• 49:25
  Speaker A: It's incredible.
• 49:27
  Speaker B: Do you. I know from what I've seen on. On the YouTubes that you are aware of past lives and in your clients past lives, but do you know about your past lives and your. Your experiences before this life and had that had any effect on not wanting to get married?
• 49:46
  Speaker C: Well, I do feel, and I do know that karmically from a past life, I know that I was strangled. And I can tell you that right now because I do not like anything tight around my throat. And anytime I get sick or anything happens, it always affects me in my fifth chakra. That is my throat chakra. And I don't like my head underwater. And we live in South Florida, so scuba diving ain't happening in this life for me. So I do know that I definitely have some sort of trauma where I was either strangled in another life. And also I feel like I was drowned. So I do feel that 100%. Yeah. Like I had visions of that. Like, I feel that it doesn't make me afraid anymore. I can. I can do it if I want to. I just choose not to.
• 50:27
  Speaker B: Is there anything that you pick up around love and relationships from your past life?
• 50:33
  Speaker C: I feel like I was always a man, and I think I had a lot of women, and I think I screwed them over.
• 50:38
  Speaker A: Okay.
• 50:38
  Speaker C: But I think I had a lot of sex.
• 50:40
  Speaker B: Ladies, you sound like you would have been hot.
• 50:44
  Speaker C: And I said, if I gotta come back in my next life, I'm coming back as a man. My husband, my. I don't want to say this loud out on the radio, but my husband always says, you're a girl. I'm. You're a guy with a. You know. You know.
• 50:59
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 50:59
  Speaker C: Yeah, there you go.
• 51:00
  Speaker B: I like that energy.
• 51:01
  Speaker C: I'm very direct. I'm very straightforward. I have no way, no, no problems telling you like it is. What's happening, what's going on? And again, it's not my personal opinion because if I. If I chose that, I would be wrong every time. So it's always about what spirit is connecting to, how it's connecting to. And just live your life. Get out of your comfort zone. Get out of it. And if somebody tells you you can't do it, that's when you're gonna do. Doesn't exist.
• 51:29
  Speaker A: Wow. So for that person listening who might be that serial, I think you call a loser Magnetic magnet.
• 51:36
  Speaker C: Loser magnet or a serial dater.
• 51:39
  Speaker A: Okay, what is one. Let's say homework assignment. Obviously they can call you for help.
• 51:45
  Speaker C: But.
• 51:46
  Speaker A: But if they. If they want to do Something for themselves.
• 51:48
  Speaker C: Right?
• 51:49
  Speaker A: What would you have them actually do for themselves to help?
• 51:53
  Speaker C: Say the word delete. Delete. Cancel. Cancel. Clear. Press the reset button in your life that you can change everything. Everything. People don't change when you want them to. People change if and when they want to. Number one. Okay. Number two, take a little bit of your hair right from the back of your neck. Bury it outside, put it into your. So you're actually growing new roots, so you're starting all over again. So it's very symbolic. It's all about energy, vibration, and it's all about becoming awakened. Last but not least, write yourself a letter and thanking yourself for all the accomplishments that you have done. Look at yourself from the outside in. Release that fear and release that pain. Then write a letter to all the people who have either hurt you, lied you, or abused you and say thank you. Thank you for being an asshole. Thank you for being a loser. Thank you for making my life bad. And what you're going to do is take that for at least nine days at the foot of your bed, not the head, because you're bringing that energy towards you. You want to put it at the foot of the bed, so you're releasing it. And then on the 10th day, you take it and you flush it down the toilet so that energy is no longer attached. So then you release the loser magnet and you're getting rid of your trauma bonds, and you no longer have to be a serial dater because you're afraid of loving, because you've been screwed. Wow. That has a lot to do with inner trapped emotion. See how my throat is closing up? Because I'm saying it.
• 53:23
  Speaker A: Oh, gosh.
• 53:26
  Speaker C: I feel that. It's so intense energy. Wow. Yeah. It's deep and large.
• 53:31
  Speaker A: I love that.
• 53:32
  Speaker B: That's really good advice.
• 53:34
  Speaker A: That's so powerful, right?
• 53:36
  Speaker C: No, it's deep. You have to release that. And can't does not exist. Never say I can't. You gotta always say I can. I am. I will. And I am empowered and I am beautiful. Don't change your hair color. If somebody says, well, I wanted a redhead and you got dark hair, don't do that. Don't get bigger boobs. Don't get a tighter cooch. I had a girl do that before, too. Get it in. I said, girl, don't you tighten that thing up. You ain't getting it in. Sure enough, she came back to me six months later. She said, girl, it hurts. I said, I told you. Now you're just going to be celibate woman. So I'm telling you, do not change. Don't tighten up the cooch, don't gotta lift the boobs. If you do that, do it for yourself, but don't do it to attract somebody. Don't think, well, you know, I gotta have a bigger bill folks cloth in order to date that person. No, that person is going to care for you, for you. As long as you care for you, they'll care for you. Accept the things you cannot change. And that's what life is about. And when you love yourself, but number one, always have faith and trust. I like to call it the committee. Whether you call them God, Allah, Master, Teacher, Creator, I like to call it the committee. Doesn't matter what your faith is this, as long as you have fate. Ask and you shall receive it. Seek it and you shall find it. Fear is a form of failure. Make your fate stronger than your fears. And that's what's going to really give you that aha moment.
• 55:00
  Speaker B: I love that. I cannot believe it's almost been an hour, like literally since we've been talking. So that's crazy. We have a bit a of a speed round that we want to ask you questions, just random questions that we think will help us get to know you better. The first one, what tarot card do you connect with the most? And why the sword?
• 55:27
  Speaker C: Oh, hell yeah. You always got to have that fire energy and you got to always have that sword in your hand so you know that you always got control.
• 55:34
  Speaker B: I love it, love that.
• 55:36
  Speaker A: So we're going to skip the Ouija board question because I think we covered that. It's no for you guys, it what makes a psychic a quote good psychic? And what are the signs of a good versus a bad psychic?
• 55:51
  Speaker C: Basically, when you're getting a reading, you need to listen more than speak. Let them tell you what's going on, let them tell you what's happening and you listen more. And if it resonates with you and you feel connected with that person, absolutely. Another thing that's very important is do your research, check that person out, see who they are. And I always, you know, I always tell people whether you were referred by someone or go to somebody, you know, there's a lot of psychics out there on TikTok right now. And I refuse to put myself on TikTok, although my management company had always been trying to put me on there. But I just feel like I rather keep my life a little bit more authentic and not put myself out there because there's so many people that's just Very trendy. And I'm not saying that a lot of those people don't have gifts, but do your research, that's key.
• 56:39
  Speaker B: I love it. Is there any kind of mystical or metaphysical philosophy that's a little too woo woo for you that you're like, I don't know about that.
• 56:49
  Speaker C: You know, I'm a pretty open minded person, but I'm very, very logical, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm open to all. But of course, you know, if you start getting into more like an occult type of thing where people are trying to drain you and bring you in and trying to suck your energy and stuff that you don't feel comfortable with, I absolutely will not allow myself to be in that. Always have your control.
• 57:10
  Speaker B: Oh, I love it.
• 57:10
  Speaker C: Just remember, it's kind of like that tarot card. Always have your sword.
• 57:13
  Speaker A: Good advice. So how do you recognize the opportunity for spiritual growth and do you always embrace those opportunities or do you sometimes say, not today, spirit.
• 57:25
  Speaker C: I can't turn it off. It's always with me. You know, I said I'm going to hopefully get some peace when I die. Die. And I'm not afraid of dying. I always say when my time is up, I'm ready to roll, man.
• 57:35
  Speaker A: So do you feel like just, just the way you live your life, you're constantly pushing and growing? Because I get that sense from you.
• 57:42
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. You know, I, I always run with the wave. I always believe the universe gives you what you can handle and universe takes from you what you cannot handle. And I think that if I didn't go with the flow all of my life, I don't think I would have ended up with a reality TV show on, you know, tlc. Tlc. I would have never ended up with. Author of two books from Chicken Soup for the Souls. HCI is the same publishing company. I think that if I didn't roll with it, I wouldn't end up on Sirius XM for so many years as I was. You know what I'm saying? So you have to just kind of show up. And it wasn't like I auditioned, I just manifested it. Do you guys remember the reality TV show back in the day, Miami Inc.
• 58:26
  Speaker A: I remember hearing about it. I never watched it. Tattoo parlor.
• 58:29
  Speaker B: Is it Kat Von D? Is that her or is that a different one?
• 58:32
  Speaker C: I can't remember, but it was, it was, I think it was called Miami Inc. That was like the real first one that came out and it was all about tattoos and stuff. And I looked at that and I Said, holy crap, if they can make a reality show about tattoos, I'm gonna end up with a reality show. So I think. I think the gods heard me, I swear. And I was up at a local place up here in pga, and I was doing a singles event, and somebody picked up my card, and it winded up being a producer. And they said, I got a feeling about you. I would love to meet you. And I laughed and I said, yeah, sure thing. Well, they flew me up to New York. Before you know it, I had a contract and we signed. And six weeks later, we did a sizzle reel. And a few months later, TLC picked up my TV show. So I never looked for it. It just kind of happened. I swear to you, I'm not joking. I can't make this shit up if I tried. And then before you know it, it. I ended up with a book deal from hci. That was my first book, get yout Head out of youf App. The second book is Deborah Graham's Guide to Attracting and Keeping youg Own True Love. And then I got interviewed by Jenny McCarthy. Before you know it, I ended up with my own radio show. So I'm telling you, if you just put yourself out there, whether it's love, being a psychic, being an intuitive being, a singer, a dancer, it's all about the creative arts. And that's what I believe. We're all spirits going through a temporary human experience. And don't be afraid. Shed those fears. Release that at night. Meditate. Put yourself in a white bubble. Visualize yourself like an onion peel. And you are absolutely peeling back the layers, you know? But if you guys want to know something very strange and weird and odd, when I start channeling and doing readings, I burp. It's the craziest thing. Oh, really? I don't try to. Most psychics get chills. I'm sure you do as well. You get chills when you're reading. I'm not like everybody else. I wish I was. I'll be like, on a live interview. Yeah, girl. I'll be on, like, Good Day New York. I'll be, like, doing something big time. And I'll just be like, burping. And they'll be like, never spoke the truth. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. And I'm like, what the hell? And it comes out. And again, it's all with that throat chakra. Because that is my most sensitive energy. But that is where all my power comes from. Isn't that strange?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker A: That's amazing.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker B: That is amazing.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker C: Guys probably never heard that before. I'm the burping psychic.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker A: You are the first.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker B: You are the first.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker C: Oh, you guys will love this. You guys will love this so much. My assistant, Joyce, she's more like my mother from another mother. I love her, I love her, I love her. And she's like, Deborah, can you just. Oh, she's from Poughkeepsie, New York. She don't take no crap from nobody. Can you calm it down with that burping? I looked at her and I said, joyce, can you just not breed? And she looked at me, I said, exactly. It's like asking you not to breathe. That's part of my gift. I channel and then it just comes out of nowhere. It's the craziest thing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker B: That's awesome. At least you know that there's an indicator that you're on, right? And you're not second guessing.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker C: Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's just like, it'll come in as like a deep moment. It'll just be like, oh, it's like, whoa, where did that come from? I can't make it up if I want it to.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker B: What psychic, living or deceased, in all over time, would you most want to meet and learn from?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker C: I really like John Edwards. I really do admire him. I've seen him many times before in the past and I really enjoyed him. Although I know back in the day, Sylvia Brown used to get a lot of backflash, which is. I've actually did some workshops for her way back when we were kind of like at the same place doing stuff. But she was very straightforward. She kind of reminds me of myself seeing her because she is very just like, do, do, do. And I don't know if you guys read her book. She did a lot of predictions that predicted the pandemic. So she was truly a channel her. She had to give. She did it and it was just like, it's there. It's just there. And you know, you're not going to make everybody happy. You're not going to tell everybody what they want to hear. And you know what? That's why I tell people I come with a disclaimer. I didn't ask you for your opinion. I told you what the hell I seen. And that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker B: I can see that you guys have that same energy flow about you. I can totally see that.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker C: Yeah. I'm not going to hold your hand. I'm going to tell you what you need to do, how you need to get there, and I think that's very important. To be authentic, but do it in a loving way. I mean, you know, you don't want to just be like, oh girl you're ugly, you're never getting a man. It doesn't work like that. You know, listen, you don't have to be a pacific looking body type to be what you want to be. Be authentic, be loving, be caring, be kind. And really most of all, give. If you give an inch, you will give a yard. Now I always tell people, pay forward. When your next time out there and you're in that drive through. Hey, hey. Pay forward for the person behind you. Just do it. Watch how your life changes and pay attention to those angels. Numbers 4, 4, 11, 11, 3, 3. That means spirit speaking. Spirit's coming in.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker A: If you had the opportunity to give a message to a new soul incarnating for the first time, what message would that be?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker C: Be free and just do it. Love it.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker B: Now it's time for you to plug your many projects, your books, your psychic connections podcast which I'm really enjoying. And I got to hear from Joyce in the Word of the Day just earlier. So I am very familiar.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker C: Joyce is pretty direct. We love Joyce.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker B: She's cute.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker C: Well you, if you want to be a live guest and you want to get that free five minute live reading, go to psychic Deborah Graham dot com. That's psychic Deborah Graham dot com. The podcast is called called the Psychic connection with Deborah Graham and I'm going to give you guys a gift. Anybody who wants to get a one on one psychic reading with me, I'm going to give you guys 75% off. So just say I was on your show and the discount code is your girls name of your show and they'll get 75% off.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker A: Awesome. Common Mystics.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker C: There you go. Common Mystics. We're going to, we're going to follow each other. I'm excited about listening to your girls show.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker B: I hope you like it. You need to give us feedback.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker C: Oh yes. No, no, no. I could already feel your girls energy. You guys are, you guys are oil and vinegar. Just so you know, opposite of each other. It ain't even funny. It's like a thing. Okay, true. But you know, you both have this very soulful energy and you guys both have passion about what you're doing and I actually see both of you writing books. So I don't know if you guys already thought about writing a book or something. I do see that. I feel like you guys are riding that lunar wave. You know. Coming up right now is the Chinese New Year. So it's all about manifestation. It is the year of the Horse. What does that mean? It's about finances, it's about wealth, it's about love, and it's about living your dream. So this year, the universe has given you a gift. And in my world, when the universe gives us a gift, you fricking take it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker B: From your lips to God's ears.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker C: It's there. You guys are on fire. Oh.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker B: So I just wanna tell you. Cause I know that you don't know us very well, the way I've been stalking you. But what we do is we use our psychic ability to drive around the continental United States looking for a verifiable story, previously unknown to us, that give voice to the voiceless spirits that want to be heard. So it's a. It's a little. It's fun. It's fun.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker C: You guys travel around the world doing this.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker B: Well, hopefully the world, but the United States right now.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker C: Wait, wait. I love this idea. Oh, my God. I want to hook up with you girls and go do something.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker B: Oh, my God.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker C: Let's collaborate. I'm not joking. I'm, like, super excited about this. Oh, my gosh. You know what? Before we started the TV show the Psychic Matchmaker, they actually asked me about getting an RV going from town to town and just reading people. And I was like, I don't know if I want to be on the road that much. Just completely doing it. But let me tell you what. It's a major thing out there. And just connecting with people, finding unique stories. Stories. Connecting. Sharing their gifts, sharing their stories, whatever they may be about. And I think this is just amazing. So have you guys actually written books yet?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker B: We had one book that we written based on the transcripts of our podcast.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker C: No offense, boring girls. You guys got more out there to say sorry. You complete me.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker A: No, you're right. You're right. You're not the first person to say.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker C: You have to do it. Just go for it. Listen to me. I published. I got two published books. I can't even freaking spell. I'm dyslexic. What the hell? I'm dyslexic.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker B: I'm just.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker C: It's because you're psychic like me, girl, you got this gift. Listen, you're powerful. You're doing stuff. You're going places. You're never going to slow down. You're going to hit it up until you're about 98.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker B: Oh, my God, I love it. Do you ever feel like the only reason why you're a functioning adult is because you had spirit in your life, leading you. Because that's how I. I feel like if not for my psychic ability, I would. I don't. I would be homeless somewhere.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker C: I'm gonna be honest with you. I did want to be a brain surgeon back in the day, but the first sight of blood, I up and I pass out. Literally. No joke. Okay. So I knew that that wasn't going to work out so swell, but I always wanted to work with the people's brains and energy, so my psychic abilities just kind of led me into that. Yeah.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker B: Well, this has been an absolute pleasure and honor. Thank you so much. Like I said, I can't believe it's been an hour. And we're taking you up on this. The next time we're around your neck of the woods or maybe over the summer, we're picking you up. Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker C: Let me know where you guys are at. You guys got to tell me your travel plans. And we're gonna hook up and we're gonna do some stuff. This could be really, really fun. We're gonna make it happen.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker B: We haven't been to Florida yet, so we're definitely. Come on.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker C: We're gonna go do it. We're gonna hit it up. Let's get it done.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker A: All right.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker B: We're gonna be emailing your assistant and telling her we're. Yes.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker C: Oh, yes, Absolutely.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker A: Deborah, you are so much. So much fun and so lovely and the first guest to make me blush.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker C: You never know what's coming out of my mouth. Girls, I love you.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker A: Love you so much.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker C: Love you, Love you. God bless you.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker B: Thank you so much for being on the show.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker C: Thank you. God bless you guys. And if and when you guys want to do a reading, it's on me. Personal one on, one off the air. No, seriously, just go to my website, psychicdemogram.com and that's going to be my gift. Okay.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker B: We love you. Thank you so much.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker A: Okay, talk to you.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker C: Take care. Bye Bye. Thank you.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker B: This has been a common mystics Media Production editing done by Yokai Audio, Kalamazoo, Michigan.