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Guest Appearance on 'The Chris Michaels Show' - Iran, Aliens, and The Globalist Agenda · World Ablaze with George Fontes

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  Welcome to this bonus episode of World of Blaze featuring me as a guest on the Chris Michael Show.
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  We start talking about Iran and then dive into more interesting subject matter that borders on conspiracy.
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  Before we get to the episode, I want to make a correction.
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  I mistakenly said that Israel attacked Libya when in fact it was Lebanon.
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  This was just an example of my brain misfiring as I was trying to think ahead of what it was I was actually wanting to say.
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  Aside from that, please enjoy the show.
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  and old Chris Michaels.
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  George, thanks for joining me.
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  Appreciate it, honestly.
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  Thank you.
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  No, it's been a great, great time
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  just chatting with you
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  before we started off just now.
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  I don't know about you,
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  but I have been very, very concerned
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  about what's been going on
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  in the world stage,
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  whether that is with the Ukraine,
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  whether that is with China
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  and what's going on with the Philippines
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  and Taiwan and all that.
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  But most recently, Iran.
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  I mean, what is happening over there?
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  We've got the Trump two-step.
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  Every time we go one way, he says, that's it.
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  We're going to end everybody.
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  We're going to turn the place into glass.
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  And then, hey, we've got something going on and we manipulate the markets.
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  What do you know about all of this that's going on?
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  Well, if we're going to be honest, if I'm going to be honest with most people,
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  Look, I do a lot of deep diving into this stuff, and I've studied a lot of what happens in the Middle East, the intricate relationships, et cetera.
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  A lot of these things go back thousands of years.
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  But as far as I'm concerned, I may see some of it differently, for sure.
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  I mean, I just threw it out there with you earlier before we started this that my nephew is actually deployed there.
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  He is in the Strait of Hormuz.
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  He's a Marine, part of the 3-1.
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  So he's out there.
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  Not saying that he's telling me everything that's going on because he's a Marine.
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  He can't.
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  I get it.
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  But at the same time,
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  what you said about Trump doing the two-step,
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  I think with what's going on with Trump
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  is really more of him keeping people off balanced.
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  I don't believe he's as stupid as people take him for.
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  And I think a lot of people dismiss the fact
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  that as a president,
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  you get a lot more intel than the average person,
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  you know, me, gets.
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  And the only thing you and I can really do
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  or anybody is read the tea leaves, really.
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  How good you're at, do at that, though,
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  depends on your due diligence
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  and how much information you're willing to cast a web around, right?
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  How much you could pull in, how much you're willing to study that,
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  extrapolate that, et cetera, and then maybe have an informed opinion.
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  And so that's kind of been my approach.
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  As far as should we be there, that's kind of a loaded question.
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  That's a nearly 50-year history between Iran and the U.S.,
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  and it hasn't necessarily been a good one.
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  We could blame the U.S. for certain things like,
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  hey, siding with Iraq for the Iraq-Iran war.
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  Okay, I can get that.
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  But the argument that many people make that,
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  well, this is the U.S. as far.
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  I mean, if we didn't try to overthrow the monarchy
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  with Operation Ajax, sure, we can talk about that.
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  But everybody also ignores that we're only there
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  supporting our ally, the U.K.,
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  who actually wanted us there because of an oil dispute, right?
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  So a lot of people don't even talk about it.
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  They just look at U.S. bad.
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  We shouldn't be doing this.
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  But if we're talking about in modern times,
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  I'm not going to apologize about anything when it comes to what I say about it.
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  I don't believe the Islamic regime should resist.
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  Since they've been in power, there hasn't been any peace in the Middle East.
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  And I think what I find interesting is now that they're being choked right now financially,
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  all their proxies seem to be fairly quiet.
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  If we're talking about Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah,
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  they haven't been as active as they used to be.
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  Pretty much proof in the pudding as to what they have been doing there.
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  But still, you know, should we be there?
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  I think we're protecting our interests.
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  I think most will say we're doing it on the behest of Israel,
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  which I don't believe that is the case.
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  I mean, Trump has made it clear,
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  especially during the 12-day war,
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  that he wasn't very happy with their actions
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  and how they went about things.
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  Same thing when they went to go attack Libya
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  while we're trying to have a ceasefire
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  during the current conflict.
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  He wasn't happy about that either.
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  So I think it was a catch-22 there, right?
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  And how I feel about the situation.
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  I think Iran itself,
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  the people need to have their country back
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  ever since the regime took over in 1978, in my opinion.
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  I think the Iranian people themselves,
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  for the most part, they're good people.
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  They didn't necessarily ask for this.
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  And I've talked to journalists.
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  I've talked to many families that are actually from Iran
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  that escape that transition into the regime.
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  Okay, I talked to many people in the intel community.
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  Doesn't make me an intel guy, but they talk to me.
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  So I'm just going to tell you that there's a lot more going on
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  the more people are letting us know.
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  and if you're relying on what the mainstream media
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  or your favorite podfluencer is what I call them telling you,
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  I'm just saying you're getting surface-level information
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  based on emotional reactions.
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  And that's what I can say thus far about what's going on.
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  So it's my opinions.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, people like us, what do we do?
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  I mean, politics, geopolitics, current events,
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  it's our soap opera.
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  This is what we pay attention to.
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  And a lot of people get upset by it.
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  But the thing that everyone not necessarily realizes is that it's just that.
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  We jawbone about stuff.
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  They know nothing more than we do.
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  We're able to connect dots just as much as they are.
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  It's just a spin that we may necessarily not put on it or put on it.
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  That's all it is, right?
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  So everyone has their own audience.
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  And you and I both know how that game works.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Um, I see my thing with, with what's going on in the Straits of Hormuz is I lean more towards,
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  I guess, what would that be? I think the moniker is far right. If you have an opinion that is
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  slightly against Trump in some kind of way, I completely agree with you that most of what
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  Trump does on truth, social and all of his rhetoric, it is there to create a fog of war
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  atmosphere. It's there to help the markets. It's there to help calm the markets. Because I do not
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  believe for a second that if somebody like Joe Biden or Barack Obama did something like this,
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  attacking Iran not once but twice, they would not have control over the markets as well as Trump
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  does. I mean, the oil has been relatively stable for the most part. It's not shot up to 150.
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  No, still expensive, but not. It is.
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  Yeah, hasn't gotten to the insane level yet.
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  Right.
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  And he's been doing a masterful job of making sure it doesn't.
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  So I do believe he's way smarter than people give him credit for.
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  However, at the same time, I don't think the public at large,
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  and I'll even throw in Trump's cabinet, potentially.
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  I don't think they realize the strength that Iran currently has,
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  not only in itself, but with other countries such as Russia and China.
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  And I also think that the main actions taken by Trump,
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  while it does serve Israel because they want to balkanize the Middle East,
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  I think the last time I looked, they want to tear up Iran.
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  It's seven different micro countries or whatever.
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  The main angle I see with all of this is to try and eliminate the Belt and Road Initiative from China.
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  So that's the ultimate angle with Trump.
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  And I don't believe people truly understand the strength that Russia, China, Iran, and potentially North Korea have combined.
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  and also the political influence that that has too
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  when faced with the rest of the world,
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  like countries like Africa and the global South.
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  It doesn't look good on the political stage for the US
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  when it comes to its influence operations
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  doing what they've done last month.
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  Right.
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  Well, I'll say this.
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  I'm not sure what Israel's actual plans are.
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  I look at Israel as, yes, they're an ally.
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  Okay, we can say that.
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  We can debate it.
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  We can believe it, want to dispute it, whatever.
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  It doesn't matter.
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  The fact is they are.
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  They do help us with intel and et cetera.
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  And I know this for facts.
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  But I don't believe we should be all in on another country's well-being necessarily.
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  I think the only reason we are is because they're kind of just a strategic partner.
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  But then again, so is the UAE at this point, right?
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  We have other Gulf nations that we've been working with and partnering with.
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  And I think that gives us leverage over, let's say, Iran.
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  But I like where you're going, though.
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  I'm going to touch on this because you said all the right things that a lot of people are overlooking.
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  But let's start with the Strait of Hormuz, okay?
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  A lot of people don't understand that the Strait of Hormuz wasn't just proving whether or not we can control it.
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  That was always going to happen, okay?
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  I'm going to tell you that right now.
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  What people don't understand is we haven't seen the full U.S. military might in action.
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  We just have not.
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  Trump's approach right now.
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  And I think what's going on with all the waffling, to be honest, you know, hey, we won or we
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  didn't.
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  We controlled it.
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  We're over.
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  It's not over.
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  Let's go back.
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  I guess that's hilarious.
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  But I think what Trump's trying to do, and if anybody's actually paid attention to him
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  since the 80s, he's spoken about Iran.
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  He's spoken about the regime.
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  He has.
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  Yeah.
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  Ever since the attack on our embassies, ever since all the killings of our US troops in
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  the area.
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  And we can argue whether or not it was defensive or not.
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  But I don't think Iran has necessarily ever had a defensive attack that's always been preemptive or intentional.
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  And so whether they did directly or through their proxies.
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  But at the same time, what Trump wants to do is he wants to take care of the situation that through over 50 years of U.S. policy, which was nothing but just appeasement and inaction.
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  So that's why we're here now.
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  Unfortunately, in our time, Trump is dealing with it.
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  And the problem that Trump has is nobody likes him, right?
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  I mean, people voted for him, but the majority of everybody, let's just say the Democrats,
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  because there are a lot of them, they do not like Trump.
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  And I get it.
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  I get it.
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  I mean, you're not going to like the president from your opposition party.
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  Understood.
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  But he's very polarizing and the world doesn't like the way he talks.
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  Like earlier, we're talking about how he comes across, right?
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  Like, well, he's not doing any favors with our allies because the way he comes across.
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  Yeah, he's crass.
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  He's not very presidential.
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  but getting back to the Strait of Hormuz in Iran,
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  he's taking action when our other presidents didn't.
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  Okay.
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  Between Obama and Biden,
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  I think it was what,
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  160 billion of dollars that they gave back to Iran through,
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  you know,
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  unfreezing assets and giving them payments for things that literally we
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  shouldn't have done.
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  Hillary Clinton pretty much like was part of that whole scheme of giving
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  them the uranium.
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  I mean,
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  there's a lot of things that we could look at that are our fault and that
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  aren't our fault,
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  but Trump in the end,
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  And what he doesn't want to see, he doesn't want to see military personnel of the USA
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  die in a conflict.
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  He said that many times.
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  He does not like war.
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  He doesn't want to go to war and see people die.
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  What Trump is trying to do, really literally trying to do, I think he thought through posturing
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  of the military might of the US and through using weapons from a distance, such as bombings
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  and whatnot, that he would bring Iran to heel just based on that.
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  but the problem is, you know, you're talking about a fundamentalist, theocratic, authoritarian
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  regime. They're not going to give up their power because all they have is the power over their
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  people. They're not going to allow you to dismantle that and free them, right? And I know there's that
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  angle too, but the reality is, I think Trump thought that, hey, we're the US, we're big and
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  bad. We're going to come in here. We're going to bomb the hell out of you, which he did,
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  and you're going to listen. And unfortunately for Trump, the response isn't what he wanted.
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  So that's why we keep seeing this.
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  All right, well, we're going to do a ceasefire.
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  Let's regroup.
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  Let's talk about this.
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  And then he does it again.
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  And it's like, okay, we won.
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  Then Iran fights back.
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  I mean, so I think Trump has been holding back.
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  If the US military might was unleashed,
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  I'll be honest with you,
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  Iran wouldn't exist right now.
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  It just wouldn't.
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  Problem with that is there will be too many civilian casualties
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  because it not the Iranian people fault that the regime is who they are I mean they can even take care of their own people They can even keep consistent water and power going half the time They take all the money that given to them to their government
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  and they don't even disperse it to their population.
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  And when you're looking at the Strait of Hormuz,
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  it's not about who has the bigger vessel, the bigger missile, right?
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  Like I said, we literally could have taken care of that at any given time.
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  If it was me, Chris, this would have been over.
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  I would have bombed and decimated Karg Island.
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  It would have been done.
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  But Trump's not trying to go that far.
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  And so what the strategic plan is,
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  it's not just a kinetic fight, right?
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  A physical kinetic fight with Iran.
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  What it is, is choking their finances
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  because that money they get from oil funds,
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  45% of their government, 45% of their earnings.
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  Their biggest customer being China taking 90% of that oil.
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  So by choking off Iran's finances,
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  a lot of people say, well, they have other means.
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  Well, they don't know what to talk about.
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  sure, you can try to ship the oil over land, but it's not effective. And it's very dangerous for
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  them as well. Because what's going to stop land pirates or raiders from taking that oil?
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  Once it gets out of Iran's control, good luck. So by us doing what we're doing in the Strait of
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  Hormuz, it's really about choking off the financial means, really crippling the economy
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  for the Islamic regime. And that's what we're seeing in real time. They don't have much longer
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  to last financially.
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  And you brought up Russia
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  and you brought up China.
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  Sure, they're allies.
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  But how close is that relationship?
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  We've seen China turn their back
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  on their allies many times.
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  When we're talking about Chinese power,
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  sure, we can talk about Africa.
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  We can talk about
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  some of the Indo-Pacific region,
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  the other countries
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  that they became partners with.
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  But what they have had done
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  many times is,
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  sure, they'll step in,
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  say, look,
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  we're going to build
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  your infrastructure.
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  We're going to help you
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  take care of everything you need.
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  We're going to put our companies here, and we're going to put $50, $60 billion into this.
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  But China very, very much treats that as a loan.
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  And when they don't pay up, they definitely use that leverage, and they pull out.
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  So China's not necessarily the partner everybody thinks it is.
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  I think China's forced to partner with Iran in the Middle East because they get oil for cheap from them.
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  And who else do they really have?
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  Honestly, there's some other relationships, but nothing like what they had with Iran.
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  and then Russia being occupied in Ukraine,
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  as you know,
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  is it the fifth or sixth year now?
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  I think 22 is when it started, right?
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  So we're on year four-ish,
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  a little over four.
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  Going into five, I think.
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  I think we're getting into that area.
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  I think it was five.
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  Huh.
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  Well, anyway, four or five,
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  it doesn't matter.
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  It's been longer than World War II,
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  if I believe it.
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  I've done my calculations.
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  Where I'm going with this is
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  Russia is preoccupied.
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  They could send stuff to Iran, but they can't militarily really get involved.
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  And when we're talking about Ukraine, I mean, a lot of people always say, well, why didn't
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  Russia just wipe out Ukraine, a smaller country?
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  Well, because they have a logistics problem.
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  They've always had a logistics problem.
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  They didn't assess properly what it takes to keep war going logistically.
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  And that's what's hurting them.
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  They conscripted people who also didn't want to be there and fight in their war, right?
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  and try to leave. So you got a resilient country in Ukraine who's not going to give up. They're
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  going to fight to the death because they really do not want to be part of the Russian empire.
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  But Russia's not in a place to really support Iran to the extent people think. So Iran at this
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  moment is on their own. Islamic regime is on their own. I think what Trump has done successfully,
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  and we give him credit
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  because he's the president,
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  but militarily what we've done successfully
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  is we crippled their economy.
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  We have decimated their leadership
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  and they're in complete disarray right now.
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  Literally.
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  There's infighting between
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  the Islamic regime and the IRGC.
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  There really is.
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  The IRGC is taking the lead.
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  They're using their military prowess
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  and power to make decisions.
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  And then we still have the Iranian army
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  that nobody's talking about
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  that as of now,
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  their funding is also running out.
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  We've also seen previously
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  when there were riots
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  and people were killed,
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  the Iranian army did not necessarily side
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  with the Islamic regime on that.
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  So the Iranian army very well could be the army
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  of the people literally here very soon
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  if things get too far out of hand.
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  This is just what I'm seeing.
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  Now, I could be wrong on some of this,
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  but just from what I've read,
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  people I've talked to,
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  and what I know in real time,
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  this is what is happening and unfolding.
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  The Islamic regime is in trouble.
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  They're projecting power through their AI slop
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  that they put all over social media.
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  Yeah, the Lego videos.
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  Those are great, though.
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  I'm going to give it to them.
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  They're funny.
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  Let's just be honest.
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  They're funny.
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  I'm not going to say they don't have a sense of humor, but do we really think that when
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  it comes to straight-up hormone moves, that all their little speedboats is enough to take
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  out the US military?
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  Can they be effective?
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  If used properly, it is, yeah.
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  They could use that, like a mosquito-type swarm effect, like, hey, tons of boats at
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  a larger vessel and try to overwhelm them.
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  but we have aircraft carriers.
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  So we have F-35s.
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  We have helicopters.
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  We still have A-10 warthogs out there
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  patrolling the area.
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  We have fuel tankers in the sky right now
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  still flying around.
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  So it's not going to happen.
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  So all they have is shore-to-sea missiles
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  at this moment.
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  And that can easily be taken out
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  if we really wanted to go all in.
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  So I think they don't have much more time.
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  It's just we're not really pressing as hard
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  as we could to take care of the situation at hand, in my opinion.
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  So, all right.
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  So I conflict with you on a lot.
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  So the idea that the United States is not going full bore, it's not, and it can't.
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  It doesn't have the logistics network to do so, right?
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  The other thing is with this whole idea of a blockade choking Iran.
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  I can't really buy that.
• 19:10
  Because if you were to actually do something that would be substantial,
• 19:14
  as far as a blockade is concerned,
• 19:16
  you would be approaching Iran a lot closer than what you've done.
• 19:19
  And they won't.
• 19:20
  And the reason why is because they've got a multi-layered defense.
• 19:25
  So that includes not only artillery, but they've got drones,
• 19:28
  they've got missiles, they've got multiple levels of missiles,
• 19:31
  including today before we got on.
• 19:32
  there were several attacks against U.S. destroyers.
• 19:38
  Now, the United States has said nothing about it,
• 19:40
  but the Iranians have come and said,
• 19:42
  well, yeah, we damaged them.
• 19:43
  We're not quite sure how badly we've damaged them,
• 19:45
  but we've done it.
• 19:47
  The air refuelers,
• 19:48
  Iran has taken out, I think,
• 19:50
  six to eight air refuelers
• 19:53
  before the ceasefire took place.
• 19:55
  Now, that doesn't mean that's the end of the,
• 19:57
  you know, the logistics network over there too,
• 19:59
  because obviously the United States
• 20:00
  has been streaming in supplies
• 20:02
  ever since the first minute of the ceasefire.
• 20:06
  So there's that.
• 20:08
  But the main problem that I have with all of this
• 20:13
  is that where is Trump going to go on the escalation ladder?
• 20:19
  Okay, so you destroy Karg Island.
• 20:22
  So what?
• 20:25
  That's not the end game here, okay?
• 20:28
  The end game is shifting goalposts depending upon who you pay attention to.
• 20:34
  It's regime change.
• 20:36
  Then it is making sure they never get a nuclear weapon, even though there are signatories,
• 20:40
  the nonproliferation treaty.
• 20:42
  Then it turned into, we need to make sure that Iran cannot do anything ever.
• 20:49
  Then it turned into, we need to take out Iran's missile systems, missile cities, missile
• 20:55
  production, which is underneath, I don't know how many hundreds of feet of granite.
• 21:01
  Because as far as my research says, each region within Iran has its very own autonomous missile
• 21:08
  city that allows it to build missiles almost instantaneously.
• 21:15
  The last time I checked, the Iranians said, now, grain of salt time, right?
• 21:19
  Because anytime a political leader comes out and says something, you've got to go, okay,
• 21:23
  where's the reality in this?
• 21:25
  They've used about
• 21:26
  7 to 9.5% of
• 21:29
  its drone and missile capacity
• 21:31
  during that
• 21:32
  30-day scuffle.
• 21:36
  okay.
• 21:38
  Well, I get you, but actually
• 21:41
  the reality is this.
• 21:43
  I think a lot of what we're talking about and what's
• 21:47
  being said about Iran's multi-layer defense
• 21:49
  is all fluff. I'm going to be honest with you.
• 21:51
  Their drone capacity
• 21:52
  contrast. I believe what the United States
• 21:55
  is doing is a bit of fluff
• 21:57
  too because the United States
• 21:59
  they're not
• 22:01
  going to admit anything.
• 22:04
  Honestly, do you believe
• 22:05
  someone truly
• 22:07
  forgot to clean the lint trap?
• 22:11
  Oh,
• 22:11
  you're talking about that?
• 22:12
  No, no, no.
• 22:14
  That's one thing, but their drone capacity
• 22:17
  has not been... They didn't use up just 7 to 10.
• 22:19
  They actually have reduced their drone
• 22:21
  stock by 40%.
• 22:23
  I could buy that.
• 22:24
  Okay.
• 22:25
  It has been.
• 22:26
  It's verified.
• 22:27
  And the other thing is that their infrastructure
• 22:29
  most of it has been damaged.
• 22:30
  Their ability to rebuild drones is not what it used to be.
• 22:33
  They really can't keep up with the amount of drones
• 22:35
  they need to produce to be able to fight the U.S.
• 22:37
  at the capacity they used to be able to.
• 22:39
  And as far as their missiles go,
• 22:41
  they've been drastically reduced.
• 22:42
  Now, we heard recently that they're trying to dig up
• 22:45
  more missiles, like they have these underground facilities.
• 22:47
  But has anyone talked about how long those missiles
• 22:50
  have been down there in storage?
• 22:51
  Have they been maintained?
• 22:53
  Have they been tested?
• 22:54
  We've already seen some of the missiles they've shot
• 22:56
  that literally went nowhere.
• 22:57
  Well, that was the thing.
• 22:59
  They claimed that they burned through
• 23:01
  that earlier stockpile.
• 23:03
  We'll see.
• 23:04
  I'm not really convinced.
• 23:05
  They don't have any air superiority.
• 23:08
  Definitely not.
• 23:09
  So all they really have is what?
• 23:11
  Speed boats and landmines?
• 23:12
  Or sea mines?
• 23:13
  That's it?
• 23:14
  Well, good luck with that.
• 23:16
  It's enough to scare off the insurers.
• 23:18
  The insurers, yes.
• 23:19
  But as far as logistics of the U.S.,
• 23:21
  I think logistically we're okay.
• 23:23
  We still have bases out there.
• 23:24
  So I think what happened,
• 23:26
  to your point,
• 23:27
  like what you said about
• 23:28
  the reason we're not pressing hard
• 23:30
  is because of this multi-layered
• 23:31
  defense system.
• 23:32
  Well, not only that,
• 23:33
  but I want you to speak to this.
• 23:35
  Sure.
• 23:35
  What's next on the escalatory ladder?
• 23:39
  Where can Trump go from here?
• 23:42
  Well, before, okay.
• 23:44
  If you just want to go straight to that.
• 23:45
  No, no, no.
• 23:46
  Lead on.
• 23:47
  Keep going.
• 23:47
  Oh, I'm sorry.
• 23:47
  I want you to get to that point.
• 23:49
  No, we will.
• 23:49
  We will.
• 23:49
  Absolutely.
• 23:50
  Absolutely. But as far as Hormuz, there's another issue that we have. We can't press as hard as we
• 23:56
  want. We have to hold back because we have allies there. We have Gulf state allies. Iran's already
• 24:02
  proven that they care less about them and they will fire upon them. They just recently did on
• 24:08
  the UAE who has done nothing in terms of attacking Iran. So what's the counter argument everybody
• 24:14
  makes? Well, they're facilitating the U.S. because they have U.S. bases and the U.S. is attacking
• 24:20
  from those bases,
• 24:21
  using them as launch pads
• 24:22
  against Iran.
• 24:23
  Eh, maybe.
• 24:24
  Maybe you can see
• 24:25
  the logic in that,
• 24:26
  but at the same time,
• 24:26
  those Gulf states
• 24:27
  have put their hands up
• 24:28
  and said, hey,
• 24:28
  we don't really want
• 24:29
  to get involved in this,
• 24:30
  and they've tried
• 24:30
  to stay out of it.
• 24:32
  So, I think that's part of it.
• 24:35
  We also got to look
• 24:36
  at the fact that
• 24:37
  what's close there?
• 24:39
  Oman.
• 24:40
  Oman's kind of like
• 24:40
  the Switzerland, right,
• 24:42
  of the Middle East.
• 24:43
  They try to be, yeah.
• 24:44
  They do try to be,
• 24:46
  but for the most part,
• 24:47
  they are.
• 24:47
  Now, the problem
• 24:48
  that we're having is
• 24:49
  everybody that is opposed to this makes the argument or at least sides with Iran is Iran
• 24:55
  has the right to patrol the strait.
• 24:57
  No, they don't.
• 24:59
  They actually literally do not have the right to close it off.
• 25:01
  They don't have a right to any of it outside of a stretch.
• 25:05
  It's actually a joint custodial effort between Iran and Oman.
• 25:10
  The other thing nobody has ever talked about, to be quite honest, is that most all or for
• 25:15
  for the most part now though,
• 25:17
  the major shipping lanes
• 25:18
  actually go through
• 25:19
  Omani territorial waters.
• 25:22
  So this whole time,
• 25:24
  the regime has been in power
• 25:25
  for 47 years.
• 25:26
  They have literally been encroaching
• 25:28
  on Oman's sovereignty.
• 25:30
  They've been antagonizing ships
• 25:32
  going through shipping lanes
• 25:33
  in Omani territorial waters.
• 25:34
  And Oman hasn't done anything.
• 25:36
  Oman appeases Iran.
• 25:38
  They want to make this relationship
• 25:39
  because literally the reason being
• 25:41
  they're right there.
• 25:42
  They don't have a big enough military
• 25:44
  to fight Iran.
• 25:44
  and they would rather try to like,
• 25:46
  hey, you know what?
• 25:48
  I'm good.
• 25:48
  Go ahead, do what you want to do.
• 25:49
  Just don't attack us for a deal.
• 25:51
  Problem that we have is UK has been piping up
• 25:54
  about all this right earlier talking about you know you affecting our gas you affecting this blah blah blah And I just going to say blah blah blah because the oldest ally Oman has is the UK And for this 47 reign with the Islamic regime antagonizing Oman
• 26:10
  and harassing ships and taking control of shipping lanes,
• 26:13
  the UK has been complacent and has done nothing.
• 26:16
  France is their other, probably, I think second oldest, whatever,
• 26:20
  one of their other oldest allies.
• 26:23
  What have they done since this entire 47-year spree of Iran trying to control and harass everybody in the strait of hormones?
• 26:29
  Nothing.
• 26:31
  Okay.
• 26:31
  So we do have to be careful.
• 26:35
  Sure, we can wipe them out.
• 26:36
  But the problem is, is where are they going to retaliate with?
• 26:39
  Exactly what you're talking about, drones and missiles.
• 26:40
  Where are they going to aim them?
• 26:41
  Not just at the U.S., all the Gulf states, because they're going to make a statement.
• 26:44
  If they're going to go out, they're going to go out with a bang.
• 26:47
  And they already did that the first time Iran was attacked.
• 26:49
  and all of the Gulf state neighbors were like,
• 26:52
  whoa, wait a minute, we're not a part of this.
• 26:55
  So I think that's part of it, to be quite honest.
• 26:57
  And again, I'm going to go back to Trump
• 26:58
  trying to use the tactic of,
• 27:00
  we're going to do just enough to cause damage.
• 27:04
  And I think he's hoping they'll finally throw their hands
• 27:08
  and go, okay, we're done.
• 27:10
  And I think that's really what's going on.
• 27:12
  Where does Trump go next?
• 27:14
  That is the question that it's hard to answer
• 27:16
  because short of choking the cash off for them to operate,
• 27:22
  which he's already been doing,
• 27:24
  they don't have their proxies.
• 27:25
  Iran doesn't have their proxies at hand
• 27:27
  to do their dirty work, right?
• 27:30
  The only thing he can do is either make the deal with them,
• 27:33
  which they don't seem like they want to,
• 27:35
  or he's just going to have to go hard
• 27:37
  and really go after the regime and get rid of them.
• 27:39
  To me, those are the only two options.
• 27:40
  He can walk away, but if he does,
• 27:44
  he's going to have to spin it pretty hard to look like he was successful.
• 27:48
  But I'd argue he has been successful on many points, you know,
• 27:52
  and we already discussed those as far as, you know,
• 27:54
  getting rid of leadership, making sure that their leadership is ineffective,
• 27:59
  which they have been, choking off their finances
• 28:02
  and making it harder on their allies to actually support them,
• 28:04
  which has also been very true.
• 28:06
  But it's going to take, I mean, it's going to, what it's going to take,
• 28:11
  Chris is,
• 28:13
  it's going to take us doing what the Western world doesn't have the stomach to
• 28:16
  do.
• 28:17
  And that is literally chasing Islamic regime down to the ends of the earth,
• 28:20
  just like everybody chased the Nazis down.
• 28:22
  And that's the only way it's going to work,
• 28:23
  but nobody wants to do that.
• 28:25
  So what do we do?
• 28:26
  We're going to have to trust them somehow.
• 28:29
  And if history has proven anything,
• 28:31
  they can't be trusted.
• 28:32
  So we're in this weird conundrum.
• 28:35
  There's no straight answer here,
• 28:36
  unfortunately.
• 28:37
  You know,
• 28:37
  I wish I could give you one,
• 28:38
  but I can't.
• 28:40
  No,
• 28:40
  that's okay.
• 28:40
  That's okay, right? Because I honestly believe that Trump is truly backed into a corner.
• 28:48
  I do not believe that Trump has inflicted this decisive blow against them. If he did,
• 28:54
  then we wouldn't be in that situation, right? Not yet.
• 28:57
  We would be traveling through the Straits of Hormuz. We would not be seeing what we see right
• 29:03
  now. And
• 29:05
  unfortunately, I
• 29:07
  don't think an invasion of Iran
• 29:09
  either with Karg
• 29:11
  Island or a few other places or
• 29:13
  a few coastal cities,
• 29:15
  that's not going to amount to a
• 29:17
  hell of beans. He could do it.
• 29:20
  Sure. And I don't believe we should do that
• 29:21
  either. No.
• 29:24
  There were rumors
• 29:25
  a couple of weeks ago that
• 29:27
  Trump had
• 29:29
  asked for
• 29:30
  the nuclear football
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  I think that's where Trump's head was at.
• 29:37
  And the reason why I say this is because what did Trump do during Trump 1.0?
• 29:42
  He upgraded the nuclear arsenal.
• 29:46
  And he touted that.
• 29:49
  What did we see back in 1963?
• 29:52
  1963, Operation Dominic with ripple technology, which does what?
• 29:58
  Basically, you've got clean nukes.
• 30:00
  and the fallout is almost nothing.
• 30:04
  It's like 0.01% fallout.
• 30:07
  So that means that the United States
• 30:09
  is essentially an arsenal of clean nukes.
• 30:12
  You don't need these dirty devices
• 30:14
  that we saw back in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
• 30:17
  and all of these other tests that we saw
• 30:21
  with the, what, Tsar Bomba.
• 30:23
  You ever see that one?
• 30:24
  That's a huge firecracker.
• 30:27
  And I think that's where Trump wanted to take this.
• 30:32
  Because I can't see them actually ending this and sending a strong enough message.
• 30:38
  Now, you've also brought up a good distinction between the IRGC and the actual army itself.
• 30:47
  I think that Trump and Israel wanted to splinter that group or those two groups and create a chasm between them.
• 30:56
  And I don't think they've been successful in doing so.
• 30:58
  And that's why we saw all of these calls to rise up.
• 31:01
  And we saw all these protesters in the beginning of the year.
• 31:04
  And then Trump spilled the beans by saying, yes, we gave them all weapons.
• 31:07
  So are they protesters or are they fifth columnists?
• 31:11
  It certainly looks like fifth columnist seditionists to me.
• 31:15
  And I don't mean January 6th rabble rallies seditionists, right?
• 31:18
  Where we walk around with a podium under our arms.
• 31:20
  I mean, actual weapons.
• 31:22
  Yeah, no.
• 31:22
  So I think that's where Trump really wanted to take this.
• 31:27
  And there's enough evidence to say that the Ukrainians have used clean nukes or low-yield nukes against Russia back in, what's it, 23, 2023.
• 31:39
  I can even throw Beirut into there a decade ago.
• 31:44
  Oh, yes, it's fertilizer.
• 31:45
  Is it fertilizer to create a mushroom cloud?
• 31:48
  I'm sorry.
• 31:48
  I don't believe that.
• 31:50
  I remember that.
• 31:50
  Yeah, you're right.
• 31:51
  Yeah, I don't believe,
• 31:52
  I'm not buying that.
• 31:54
  So, I mean,
• 31:54
  you want to talk about shit,
• 31:56
  there it is.
• 31:56
  Yeah, there you go.
• 31:59
  So that's where I think
• 32:00
  Trump wanted to take this.
• 32:01
  Now, the other variable
• 32:02
  behind all of this
• 32:03
  is Israel's arsenal.
• 32:04
  You really think he wants
• 32:04
  to do that?
• 32:06
  What's that?
• 32:07
  You really think
• 32:07
  he wants to do that, though?
• 32:09
  I wouldn't put it past him.
• 32:10
  I wouldn't put it past him.
• 32:11
  Not a full-on one, right?
• 32:13
  He's not going to launch
• 32:14
  50 Ripple Tech nukes.
• 32:16
  Right.
• 32:16
  But if he can do
• 32:18
  something like that,
• 32:19
  if he can launch one,
• 32:20
  maybe two, to create a message, maybe somewhere near a nuclear facility.
• 32:27
  Get the point across where it doesn't really raise a lot of eyebrows.
• 32:32
  It's almost in the middle of nowhere.
• 32:34
  Maybe you can get some leverage.
• 32:35
  The other variable in the wild card is Netanyahu himself.
• 32:39
  We all know he's got nuclear weapons, right?
• 32:42
  Let's stop beating around the bush.
• 32:44
  What is he doing behind closed doors?
• 32:47
  Is he threatening to use nuclear weapons?
• 32:49
  Is that one of the main reasons why Trump decided to launch this attack again in 2026?
• 32:55
  Was it essentially saying, if you don't attack them, then I'm going to attack them with nuclear weapons.
• 33:03
  And Miriam Adelson is going to release some juicy details about you.
• 33:06
  Maybe something along those lines.
• 33:08
  So that's what I mean by the escalatory ladder.
• 33:11
  There's not a lot of places he can go.
• 33:13
  No, well, that's...
• 33:15
  I think you have some valid arguments there
• 33:19
  if we look at Trump as a crazy man, but...
• 33:22
  He's not crazy. He's crazy like a fox.
• 33:24
  Right?
• 33:25
  I don't think that's where he's going to go
• 33:29
  only because there's only so many areas
• 33:31
  you could use a device like that.
• 33:32
  And the problem with that is
• 33:35
  if he does move forward,
• 33:36
  the civilian fallout,
• 33:37
  regardless of how controlled it is,
• 33:39
  is not going to be looked...
• 33:40
  Everyone's going to look down on it.
• 33:42
  You look down the US for sure.
• 33:45
  And as soon as you try to use a nuclear weapon,
• 33:48
  whether it's low yield or not,
• 33:50
  that triggers a response from China, Russia.
• 33:54
  And don't forget, North Korea has been itching.
• 33:57
  Yeah, they have.
• 33:58
  I'm just saying.
• 33:59
  Full of places.
• 34:00
  That would be my only counter to that.
• 34:02
  And honestly, you also got to look at Pakistan's right there.
• 34:06
  They're not a strong ally of the US.
• 34:09
  They try to claim they are,
• 34:10
  but every time something happens,
• 34:11
  They side with some jihadist group somewhere or they get behind Iran.
• 34:16
  And there's nothing to say that they would not use their nuclear weapons in response.
• 34:22
  So I don't think Trump...
• 34:24
  Okay, let's just say this.
• 34:25
  I think you might be right in Trump being in the back of his mind, be like, if I could
• 34:29
  just press that damn button.
• 34:30
  But I also think that he knows that that's not the direction to go.
• 34:35
  I'm going to stick to...
• 34:37
  I think he wants to overwhelm them.
• 34:38
  I think that he doesn't want U.S. troops to die,
• 34:41
  and he's hoping at this point,
• 34:43
  hoping that they can come to some kind of deal or concessions.
• 34:47
  Problem with that is Iran's made it very clear
• 34:49
  that they do want a nuclear weapon.
• 34:51
  For as much as everybody says,
• 34:52
  well, there was a fatwa issued to never, ever do that.
• 34:57
  You would have to assume.
• 34:59
  Yeah, that's all lies.
• 35:00
  It literally is.
• 35:02
  They do want to develop one.
• 35:04
  They have literally, it's in their charter,
• 35:06
  and Hamas's charter as well
• 35:08
  that kill the infidel, period,
• 35:12
  convert or die.
• 35:13
  That's their mantra
• 35:14
  and death to America.
• 35:15
  I'm sorry.
• 35:16
  It's true.
• 35:16
  Nobody wants to buy it.
• 35:17
  They think that's just a talking point,
• 35:18
  but it's not.
• 35:19
  What do you think motivates them
• 35:20
  to keep doing what they're doing?
• 35:21
  There's that
• 35:22
  and they do not want Israel to exist.
• 35:25
  I'm personally not here
• 35:26
  to defend Israel.
• 35:27
  Okay, so I just want to throw that out there.
• 35:28
  I don't want to get in the whole Israel thing
• 35:29
  because everybody,
• 35:30
  I'm tired of that talking point.
• 35:31
  Watch out for that one.
• 35:33
  No, but what I'm getting at is
• 35:34
  I'm more focused on what's good for the US.
• 35:37
  And honestly, the removal of the Islamic regime is good for us.
• 35:40
  Why?
• 35:41
  Let's go back to what you brought up earlier, Venezuela.
• 35:44
  Who was there in our own hemisphere?
• 35:46
  Who was there?
• 35:48
  It wasn't just China.
• 35:49
  It was Iran.
• 35:50
  The IRGC literally was setting up bases over there to work at.
• 35:54
  They had about 300, I want to say 300 some, I might get this wrong.
• 36:00
  I don't remember.
• 36:00
  It was thousands or whatever.
• 36:01
  But they had their own people there, literally there training.
• 36:04
  They were setting up places to where they could launch attacks from
• 36:06
  and monitor the US.
• 36:08
  This is factual.
• 36:09
  Recently, I think it was, actually, I might get this wrong.
• 36:14
  I might get this wrong.
• 36:16
  I want to say Hamas or Houthis.
• 36:19
  One of them just came up to, they were over in this area,
• 36:24
  also setting up shop to do things.
• 36:27
  And who's behind all of this and funding it?
• 36:30
  Iran was.
• 36:30
  because as soon as Maduro was taken,
• 36:32
  who ran?
• 36:34
  China.
• 36:34
  Like, okay, well, you know,
• 36:36
  we still got our control of the Panama Canal.
• 36:38
  We're still working with Peru.
• 36:39
  We still have our inroads here and there,
• 36:41
  but then they didn't press much harder
• 36:43
  in Venezuela.
• 36:45
  So Iran's important.
• 36:47
  The Islamic regime bringing them to heel
• 36:49
  is important because they have already showed
• 36:51
  that they will continue to do what they can
• 36:53
  and position themselves
• 36:54
  to either take out the U.S.
• 36:56
  or make it harder in the U.S.
• 36:57
  and the mainstream media didn't even talk about Iran's presence in Venezuela and their deal,
• 37:04
  their dealings that they had with Maduro and the protection they had from Maduro's military.
• 37:09
  This is facts. This is not a lie. This isn't something that I'm pulling out of the air just
• 37:14
  to try to prove, you know, support my argument. It's just, this is the truth. They literally
• 37:19
  do not want the U S to exist. So with that, I can care less what people think of the Islamic
• 37:26
  regime if you're going to side with them. Good for you.
• 37:28
  Go for it. Go ahead. Support your destruction.
• 37:30
  I can care less. In my opinion,
• 37:33
  they need to go. There has not been one
• 37:34
  good thing that the Islamic regime has ever done.
• 37:36
  Period. They have not benefited the Middle
• 37:38
  East. They don't even benefit their own people.
• 37:40
  They have a system there of government
• 37:42
  where they have a civilian president.
• 37:44
  They have that next level,
• 37:46
  but the clerics override everything.
• 37:48
  And if everything's based on this
• 37:50
  theocratic
• 37:52
  government, which is based on the Quran
• 37:54
  and based on whatever they want to make up,
• 37:56
  because honestly, I've talked to many people where they themselves are like,
• 37:59
  they're not really practicing real Islam.
• 38:02
  They're just using it as a tool of subjugation and control
• 38:04
  to motivate people to do their dirty work.
• 38:06
  And it has worked.
• 38:08
  So as far as I'm concerned, I don't know how we're going to do this,
• 38:11
  but the end game is they either need to be extremely crippled,
• 38:15
  they need to come to heel,
• 38:17
  and the only thing that Trump can do is either completely destroy them by any means,
• 38:21
  hopefully not nuclear,
• 38:22
  or they literally have to come to a deal,
• 38:24
  and they need to be monitored constantly
• 38:26
  because they're never going to stop.
• 38:28
  They just aren't.
• 38:29
  Well, I mean, here's my problem with that whole thing
• 38:32
  is that you've got just as much
• 38:35
  of a rabid theocratic regime in Israel
• 38:38
  as you do in Iran.
• 38:40
  I mean, if you look into some of the social media posts
• 38:43
  that you see out there,
• 38:44
  particularly with the way the Israelis treat Christians,
• 38:47
  not only with the settlers that go out there
• 38:51
  and do all kinds of nasty things
• 38:53
  to everybody around them.
• 38:55
  It the same thing Six of one half dozen of another They both believe that each other is subhuman Doesn matter whether you in Iran or Saudi Arabia or you in Tel Aviv
• 39:08
  Then you've got the radical Christians in the Trump regime too, right?
• 39:14
  These guys are all about Armageddon and they're all ready to take on Gog and Magog.
• 39:19
  And let's have at it.
• 39:21
  This is all engineered, right?
• 39:23
  We don't need to go down these roads.
• 39:25
  unfortunately i i i cannot see how this ends in a positive way i really think this is going to be
• 39:36
  escalatory in a major major way now there's a wild card to all of this that i don't think a lot
• 39:45
  of people rely on i don't necessarily trust russia and the reason why i say that is because
• 39:52
  Because, and when I say I don't trust Russia, I mean, Iran shouldn't trust Russia.
• 39:59
  Russia supposedly has said, whatever you want, we'll supply it, right?
• 40:04
  China supposedly supplied Iran with a spy satellite, which is why they were so accurate
• 40:08
  with their missile and drone strikes.
• 40:11
  Yep.
• 40:12
  And supposedly, Iran has told Russia, yeah, thanks, but no thanks.
• 40:16
  We don't need anything right now.
• 40:17
  Russia has time and again slithered away from its supposed allies,
• 40:24
  case in point being Syria, right?
• 40:27
  When are you going to allow, you know, your only Mediterranean base,
• 40:30
  you allow it to get taken over by ISIS.
• 40:33
  Right.
• 40:34
  What?
• 40:35
  What's wrong with you people?
• 40:36
  True.
• 40:37
  So Iran, I don't think, should trust Russia in all of this.
• 40:44
  Yeah.
• 40:44
  But yeah, and unfortunately, I think they don't have a lot of places to go.
• 40:51
  The main issue that I have with all of this situation that's going on,
• 40:56
  whether it's the Strait of Hormuz, whether it's nuclear weapons,
• 40:58
  if we're talking about radicalized clerics or radicalized rabbis,
• 41:03
  is that neither side wants to back down.
• 41:07
  And neither side is going to be happy until there is a lot of bloodshed.
• 41:12
  So my opinion is to just withdraw everything.
• 41:16
  There is no official alliance between the United States and Israel.
• 41:19
  There's only memorandums of understanding.
• 41:22
  Neither side is allowed or neither side is obligated to come to the other's defense in case something goes sideways.
• 41:30
  So I'm more of the isolationist type.
• 41:33
  Take me back to 1913.
• 41:35
  You guys want to go hash it out?
• 41:37
  I hear you.
• 41:38
  We'll sell weapons to both sides.
• 41:41
  I think, Chris, you make some good points of that.
• 41:44
  But I wasn't trying to make the argument that this was a religious war whatsoever.
• 41:49
  What I was making the argument about is how they're using this religion of theirs to…
• 41:54
  All sides do that.
• 41:55
  Well, to a point, how Christian is the U.S., to be honest.
• 41:58
  How many people go to church except maybe on Sunday and then sin six days a week after that?
• 42:03
  So I don't see that, you know, we don't have a large world Christian organization, you know,
• 42:10
  waging jihadist wars or terrorism.
• 42:14
  We just don't.
• 42:15
  You got people like Eric Prince
• 42:16
  and all the evangelicals
• 42:18
  that are more than happy
• 42:19
  to take up that mantle, right?
• 42:20
  Sure, but still,
• 42:21
  it's not the level that we see.
• 42:22
  They're influential.
• 42:23
  It's not the level that we're seeing
• 42:24
  with these extremists,
• 42:26
  these fundamentalist extreme Islamists, okay?
• 42:29
  And I'm not saying all Muslims.
• 42:30
  I want you to understand that.
• 42:31
  No one thinks that.
• 42:32
  A lot of people do that.
• 42:33
  No one thinks that.
• 42:34
  No, I'm just throwing it out there.
• 42:35
  It's because I've always said
• 42:36
  we don't choose what we're born into.
• 42:39
  and there's a lot of Muslims that are good people
• 42:41
  that live in modern times
• 42:43
  and practice religion in modern times.
• 42:45
  I've made this point before.
• 42:46
  If we were Christians of old,
• 42:48
  we'd be stoning people
• 42:49
  and cutting people's arms off, etc.
• 42:50
  But we can't do that.
• 42:52
  We don't live by the Old Testament.
• 42:53
  It evolved.
• 42:54
  We modernized.
• 42:55
  And in general,
• 42:57
  we're not a true Christian nation.
• 43:00
  Not to the degree that we see
• 43:01
  these theocratically ruled regions.
• 43:04
  Israel, good point on that.
• 43:05
  I'm not sure they're theocratic.
• 43:07
  Their government isn't.
• 43:09
  You know, there's Orthodox, there's people who are Orthodox Jews there that practice a very strict, you know, strict version of the religion for sure.
• 43:18
  And they do have their agenda.
• 43:19
  I'm not going to argue they don't.
• 43:20
  But the point I was making is the reason we have to handle the regime is because their consistent intent on destroying the West.
• 43:29
  And I can go back to other, we can go back to the Muslim conquests.
• 43:33
  We can go back to ancient Persia.
• 43:36
  Let's go back to the Moors in Spain.
• 43:38
  Well, we can go back to Moors.
• 43:39
  Yeah, you understand what I'm getting at.
• 43:40
  It's just they're hell-bent on doing what they're going to do.
• 43:44
  And I think that we had to react because after all these years
• 43:47
  and the buildup that was going on in our own hemisphere,
• 43:51
  when Iran is making inroads and the IRGC is setting up shop
• 43:55
  in our own backyard, you can't let that continue to happen, right?
• 43:59
  When they were using Venezuela to circumvent sanctions,
• 44:02
  you can't allow that to happen.
• 44:04
  I'm just saying that I don't have a problem with Iran.
• 44:07
  I have a problem with the regime.
• 44:09
  And I think that the regime is the issue.
• 44:11
  It's not the Iranian people.
• 44:13
  You know, I feel sorry for the Iranian people.
• 44:15
  They're caught in the middle of all this.
• 44:17
  And, you know, the U.S., I'm going to agree with you.
• 44:20
  I don't know if Trump has a real out, right?
• 44:25
  He can back away and maybe egg on his face.
• 44:29
  Could be, possibly.
• 44:31
  But let's ask this question.
• 44:33
  How does the world continue to allow an evil regime to exist for the sake of cheap gas?
• 44:37
  I mean, just for the sake of our pocketbook?
• 44:40
  Really?
• 44:40
  That's it?
• 44:41
  They could have been...
• 44:43
  Look at Saudi Arabia.
• 44:45
  Yeah, no, but understood.
• 44:46
  But could we not have already the world made relationships
• 44:50
  and done other things to get their oil from other places,
• 44:54
  their fertilizer from other places?
• 44:56
  Like, let's just be real about it.
• 44:58
  You know, even a lot of the Gulf states.
• 44:59
  Yeah, there are plenty of whataboutisms and what we could have done.
• 45:02
  It's not whataboutisms.
• 45:02
  It's just fact.
• 45:04
  I mean, they have pipelines already going to the Red Sea.
• 45:06
  They could have made those larger capacity.
• 45:09
  There's the canal that was being proposed and built
• 45:12
  that would have bypassed the Strait of Hormuz
• 45:15
  altogether into the Indian Ocean,
• 45:17
  and they would have been able to get oil that way.
• 45:19
  There's so many things that could have happened
• 45:21
  that these European nations could have partnered
• 45:23
  with some of these Gulf states to move them forward,
• 45:26
  but they never did all these years, right?
• 45:28
  And so through all these years,
• 45:29
  by not taking care of the situation
• 45:32
  and circumventing the situation that they have with Iran
• 45:35
  trying to control Hormuz
• 45:36
  and just terrorize everybody all the time.
• 45:38
  I mean, eventually it comes to bite you in the ass.
• 45:41
  And I think that's what happened.
• 45:43
  We can argue the Strait of Hormuz was open before,
• 45:45
  but we've also seen where Iran has shut it down many times.
• 45:48
  So I don't know if I have an answer to whether we should be there,
• 45:52
  whether this was the right move.
• 45:53
  I just know that at some point, if they weren't dealt with,
• 45:57
  I don't know if this was the correct approach,
• 45:59
  if I'm being honest, Chris.
• 46:00
  I don't think it's the correct approach.
• 46:02
  But at the same time-
• 46:03
  We're in it.
• 46:04
  Yeah, exactly.
• 46:05
  It had to happen.
• 46:06
  It was going to happen.
• 46:07
  We were on a collision course with him for many years,
• 46:08
  for over 50 years.
• 46:10
  It was going to happen.
• 46:11
  It just happened in our time,
• 46:12
  and it happened under Trump's presidency.
• 46:14
  And I think because it's Trump,
• 46:16
  everyone just hates it.
• 46:18
  Literally.
• 46:20
  Yeah, I mean, you can definitely say that.
• 46:23
  But, you know, like me being more of the isolationist type,
• 46:26
  I see a lot of issues with it.
• 46:29
  Do you think we have to worry about stuff here?
• 46:31
  Absolutely, and we do.
• 46:33
  And I don't, and I, I don't, I'm not against places.
• 46:37
  I'll bring up Texas and I'll bring up Tampa.
• 46:39
  Yeah.
• 46:40
  Those two locations, particularly Tampa, I learned this year is that they are now touting themselves as the Muslim Mecca or, or, you know, golden spot of America.
• 46:57
  So there's a propagandistic campaign to bring people into Tampa, Florida with all of this.
• 47:05
  I mean, do you think that there is a need to worry here in the United States if things really go off the rails?
• 47:12
  Well, that's kind of a loaded question.
• 47:18
  Because you can say one thing and you're a bigot and racist.
• 47:20
  You can say another thing and all this.
• 47:21
  All right.
• 47:22
  So skip the question.
• 47:23
  Me?
• 47:24
  I won't skip it.
• 47:25
  I have no problem.
• 47:27
  standing on my beliefs.
• 47:29
  But, you know, going back to the isolation thing real quick,
• 47:32
  I think there's merit to that.
• 47:34
  I think you're right about, you know,
• 47:35
  America should pay attention to themselves.
• 47:37
  And I think if we did that from the beginning
• 47:39
  and stay on that course,
• 47:40
  we'd probably be in a better place.
• 47:41
  But I also am one of those people that
• 47:43
  don't think we can put our heads in the sand
• 47:45
  and think the problems are going to go away.
• 47:46
  If it's not us, it's going to be China.
• 47:48
  If it's not us, it's going to be Russia.
• 47:49
  It's going to be somebody.
• 47:51
  I'm not sure if it justifies that
• 47:52
  we're necessarily better than everybody,
• 47:53
  but I would say I'd rather have, you know,
• 47:57
  a power based on democracy or democratic ideas than theocratic or authoritarian, you know,
• 48:05
  powers ruling the world at this point. And I'll just say that. So, and it's not a dig at you,
• 48:10
  by the way, I just say, I just think that we have to look out for our own stuff. We do,
• 48:14
  but we also can't ignore issues and allow them to build to where they become uncontrollable.
• 48:18
  As far as here, look, the problem we have isn't every Muslim.
• 48:26
  It's just not.
• 48:28
  The problem we have are the ones that we don't know of that are fundamentally aligned and in allegiance to the Islamic regime, period.
• 48:38
  We don't know.
• 48:40
  We just don't.
• 48:40
  and we also can't ignore that,
• 48:44
  you know,
• 48:45
  at our borders only,
• 48:46
  I think it was in 2025 stats,
• 48:48
  there was enough,
• 48:49
  enough known terrorists trying to get into our Southern border.
• 48:53
  The number of which that we actually apprehended to put 80 terrorists in
• 48:58
  every state of this country.
• 49:01
  Doesn't take too many terrorists to cause trouble,
• 49:03
  but if you put 80 in every,
• 49:05
  every country and every state of this country,
• 49:07
  that's an issue.
• 49:08
  Those are legit terrorist cells,
• 49:10
  right?
• 49:10
  And we're not talking about the gotaways, the people that still did get in.
• 49:13
  So the danger we have is not Muslims per se.
• 49:17
  To me, the problem are those who are coming in under the banner of, I want to be a U.S.
• 49:22
  citizen and I need a better life.
• 49:24
  But in the back of their mind, what they're really doing when they go home is they're
• 49:28
  planning and plotting and being on the ready to overthrow the U.S.
• 49:32
  When you're trying to create communities to where you're closing out our culture and our
• 49:36
  laws to create your own communities where you can enforce your own teachings through your own
• 49:42
  schools and your own laws based on your religion, that's you literally setting up a nation within a
• 49:47
  nation and you're telling the US like, you know what? This is my land. You're not going to tell
• 49:51
  me what to do and I don't have to listen to you or adhere to your culture or uphold your constitution.
• 49:56
  In fact, what we're going to do is use it against you. We're going to use your ability to be
• 50:00
  accepting and your ability to be ethical and appease people because you don't want to offend
• 50:07
  anybody. And we're just going to root ourselves here. And then when the time comes, they get into
• 50:10
  your politics. And we've seen this happen in the UK. So it's not Muslims that I think I have a
• 50:17
  problem with. I have a problem with those who don't want to integrate, those who truly do not believe
• 50:20
  in the US and are really just trying to build up their systems and put them in place to be able to
• 50:25
  oppose the U.S. from within. And again, we've seen this in Texas, right? You referenced Texas,
• 50:30
  that big complex or- Yeah, enormous. Enormous. That's exactly what they're doing. That's a
• 50:36
  perfect example of what the play is by so many people who want to harm us. They want to set up
• 50:42
  their nation and nation. They want their own rules, their own laws, their own education,
• 50:45
  everything. They do not want to conform. They even want their own police force in there.
• 50:49
  So we've seen the same thing in Minnesota. It's not closed off, but good luck.
• 50:55
  They control it, the area.
• 50:57
  This isn't just that.
• 50:58
  What about Kansas?
• 51:00
  You know?
• 51:01
  And of course, you're talking about Tampa, Florida.
• 51:03
  I mean, this is everywhere and it's spreading.
• 51:07
  So what I would say is it isn't bigoted or racist to question and call out.
• 51:13
  Everyone should be vetted.
• 51:15
  Everyone should be monitored and checked.
• 51:17
  Period.
• 51:18
  Anybody who's an immigrant should be.
• 51:21
  and there are those who are born here
• 51:23
  that are taught by their family,
• 51:25
  their friends,
• 51:27
  to be fundamentalists.
• 51:29
  And so it's like,
• 51:30
  it's almost like asking,
• 51:32
  should we even allow them in the country?
• 51:34
  That's a hard one
• 51:35
  because there are people
• 51:36
  who really, really are trying
• 51:37
  to look for a better life
• 51:38
  and don't believe in,
• 51:39
  you know, destroying the US from within.
• 51:41
  But how do we look at these people
• 51:43
  and how are we able to really separate
• 51:45
  those who we would consider
• 51:46
  good for a country
• 51:48
  and who truly want to be here
• 51:49
  for a better life
• 51:50
  from those who want to destroy us.
• 51:52
  It's really hard.
• 51:53
  I mean, I don't know how we go about that.
• 51:54
  It truly is.
• 51:55
  And I think the only way to really look at that kind of issue is through a transnational
• 52:02
  lens. We're dealing with organizations that do not believe in national boundaries.
• 52:07
  So that means that you can be a citizen of France and still support this kind of immigration.
• 52:14
  You can do it all over the world. And you can see these hyper elites coalesce around a single
• 52:20
  agenda. And me personally, I think that what they intend to do is to take the United States
• 52:27
  down a few pegs. You see the money streaming towards the East, towards China, right? It seems
• 52:35
  as though, at least from my perspective with the banks, they want a Chinese-style society with
• 52:43
  social credit scores and monitoring here in the United States and throughout the West.
• 52:48
  They just need the catalyst to do so. And so far, they haven't had a good opportunity to unleash
• 52:54
  that kind of thing.
• 52:55
  I'm not saying that the Trump administration
• 52:57
  would do something like that,
• 52:58
  but I am suspicious of people like Peter Thiel
• 53:01
  and the Ellisons and all of the rest.
• 53:04
  Gates.
• 53:05
  They have raging hard-ons
• 53:08
  to subjugate your ability to travel.
• 53:11
  And that's where I really think
• 53:14
  they're trying to balkanize the United States
• 53:17
  by allowing unfettered immigration.
• 53:19
  I think there's a good case for that.
• 53:22
  A lot of people will call that a conspiracy,
• 53:24
  but we have seen the persistence.
• 53:25
  Listen, hold on.
• 53:27
  Two people in a room talking about doing something,
• 53:31
  no matter how harmless or dangerous it could be,
• 53:33
  is a conspiracy.
• 53:34
  So I don't want to hear a conspiracy.
• 53:35
  I hear it.
• 53:36
  Oh, no, and I'm not saying you are.
• 53:38
  I'm saying a lot of people call it conspiracy,
• 53:40
  but we've seen enough evidence of that, right?
• 53:41
  Just look at the WEF, the WEF, World Economic Forum.
• 53:45
  We've seen the videos that come out of there.
• 53:47
  They are talking crazy, like, you know,
• 53:50
  dystopian movie scripts.
• 53:52
  Like literally.
• 53:52
  Yes.
• 53:53
  You know, straight 1984 stuff or, you know,
• 53:56
  Ayn Rand stuff.
• 53:57
  Like, it was like, what are we talking about?
• 53:59
  Are we really going to do this?
• 54:00
  Are you really taking these books
• 54:02
  and literally trying to impose it on the world?
• 54:04
  Like, that's what it seems like.
• 54:06
  Right.
• 54:06
  It wasn't a blueprint.
• 54:08
  Maybe it was.
• 54:09
  We're not calling it a blueprint, but possibly.
• 54:13
  You know, and again, you know,
• 54:14
  when we're talking about immigration and whatnot,
• 54:16
  like nations need sovereignty.
• 54:18
  They need borders.
• 54:19
  And the problem with what's going on is,
• 54:22
  what's happening is they're just treating the U.S. right now as an economic zone.
• 54:27
  That's it.
• 54:28
  Right.
• 54:28
  And we're not an economic zone for everybody.
• 54:31
  You know, and it's like when we try to enforce our borders,
• 54:35
  we're called evil and bigoted and racist.
• 54:38
  But like, go ahead and try to just walk across Chinese borders.
• 54:41
  Go ahead and try to just walk around by North Korean borders,
• 54:44
  you know, or Thailand or Malaysia.
• 54:47
  Like, see what happens.
• 54:49
  Or any country with a national identity.
• 54:51
  Yeah, to your point, exactly.
• 54:53
  That was one of the major societal movements that damaged the United States back in, I'll throw it back to the 70s, when they outlawed LSD and took us off the gold standard.
• 55:08
  I think starting from that point, things just started to just like turn into stuff you find underneath a damp log.
• 55:17
  When you've got these countries,
• 55:18
  like Hungary is an excellent example.
• 55:21
  And we'll see if it still continues.
• 55:22
  But under Orban,
• 55:24
  Hungary was an excellent example
• 55:25
  of thumbing its nose to the EU,
• 55:27
  saying, we're not going to destroy our country
• 55:29
  with unfettered illegal immigration.
• 55:31
  We're not going to allow a 90 billion euro loan
• 55:35
  to the Ukraine to continue this nonsense
• 55:38
  because we get energy from Russia, right?
• 55:41
  There has to be some way
• 55:43
  to quarterize
• 55:46
  these transnational
• 55:47
  groups that truly
• 55:49
  mean to take us under some kind
• 55:51
  of Oceania-style
• 55:53
  governance from 1984.
• 55:56
  I mean, there's got to be
• 55:57
  something. And I do believe it starts at the
• 55:59
  local level, you know, start at the state
• 56:01
  level, the county level,
• 56:03
  really change things around there.
• 56:06
  Yeah. I mean, we see it in our
• 56:07
  education system at this moment. Oh, yeah.
• 56:10
  I mean, what better way to
• 56:11
  indoctrinate your
• 56:13
  culture and your people and your generations moving forward than in the educational system.
• 56:18
  We've seen it in both K-12 and in higher education. It's a reality. But I like this
• 56:26
  conversation because, look, we're getting away from a little bit of what's really happening that
• 56:31
  we can see and touch and actually physically feel versus, this is very, it's abstract to a degree
• 56:40
  because a lot of people don't believe this is actually happening.
• 56:43
  But then again, the signs are there.
• 56:45
  Just look at the legislation.
• 56:47
  The signs are there.
• 56:48
  It is happening.
• 56:49
  There is an organization that does want to control everybody.
• 56:53
  I mean, they look at everybody in the world as just assets, right?
• 56:56
  Literally.
• 56:57
  That's what they're talking about.
• 56:59
  They're talking about tokenizing everything.
• 57:02
  From the air you breathe to the...
• 57:04
  Exactly.
• 57:04
  How many times you flush the toilet.
• 57:06
  Yeah.
• 57:07
  WEF.
• 57:08
  Going back to that, that's exactly what they wanted to do, right?
• 57:10
  They brought all these points up.
• 57:11
  15-minute cities, the air you breathe isn't free, all these things.
• 57:15
  And now, if we're going to the U.S., if we're going to look at signs of this,
• 57:19
  what about our cars in 2027?
• 57:21
  All this surveillance technology.
• 57:23
  It's going to decide whether or not you're a good human.
• 57:26
  Well, basically not that, but whether or not you're in a state to drive.
• 57:29
  And it's going to determine if you're drunk or you're not drunk,
• 57:31
  if you're sleepy or if you're not sleepy.
• 57:33
  If you're too panicked, you can't get behind the wheel.
• 57:36
  And this biometric data that's being recorded is going to be sent
• 57:38
  to insurance companies and law enforcement.
• 57:40
  I mean, come on.
• 57:42
  If that's not the biggest red flag
• 57:43
  that there's a change and miss right now.
• 57:47
  Just look at the new car sales
• 57:48
  that the new cars are going to have to deal with.
• 57:50
  That is just them putting it front and center
• 57:52
  right in your face.
• 57:55
  It's funny.
• 57:55
  I looked into that too.
• 57:57
  And the car cameras,
• 57:59
  if you cover them up,
• 58:01
  you cannot do certain things in your car.
• 58:04
  Oh, really?
• 58:05
  Like you can't go into cruise control.
• 58:08
  If you cover up that camera, it will, I think in some cars you have to turn,
• 58:14
  you can turn it off.
• 58:15
  There's like a whole bunch of steps to do to turn it off,
• 58:18
  but it turns right back on as soon as you hit the ignition switch again.
• 58:22
  And it also says that the data is going to be sent to third parties but they don tell you what third party Interesting So it also true that they So it like a software subscription type thing
• 58:37
  to where it's like
• 58:38
  you're not necessarily
• 58:38
  paying for it,
• 58:39
  but like they own the software.
• 58:40
  So therefore,
• 58:41
  the tech in your car...
• 58:42
  You rent it out, right?
• 58:42
  You won't own nothing
• 58:43
  and you'll be happy.
• 58:45
  More WEF talk.
• 58:47
  Yes.
• 58:49
  Dang, man.
• 58:49
  It's fine.
• 58:50
  Like I just see these guys
• 58:52
  whenever they do this
• 58:53
  WEF meeting every year, right?
• 58:56
  I just see a bunch of these people metaphorically jacking off into everyone else's faces.
• 59:02
  Just this big, massive circle jerk where everybody is saying, yes, yes, that's right.
• 59:08
  If anybody wants to invest in any companies, here's my advice.
• 59:12
  Which companies are going to be involved with some kind of dystopian effort?
• 59:16
  Whether that's creating a data center or firing up nuclear facilities to supply the energy for those data centers.
• 59:23
  were the war industry.
• 59:25
  You can never go wrong with that.
• 59:26
  That's where you want to put your cash.
• 59:27
  That's where the money is, right?
• 59:29
  I mean,
• 59:30
  if,
• 59:31
  okay,
• 59:32
  if Klaus Schwab
• 59:32
  was never a sign
• 59:34
  that something is wrong,
• 59:35
  like when you have a literal
• 59:36
  Austin Powers fucking villain.
• 59:38
  Dude,
• 59:38
  insane.
• 59:39
  Literal villain.
• 59:40
  Like this guy is something
• 59:41
  out of an old James Bond movie.
• 59:42
  Like how did you not see it?
• 59:44
  Yeah.
• 59:45
  You might as well call it Spectre,
• 59:46
  not the W-E-F.
• 59:48
  Right.
• 59:48
  Like how did you not see it?
• 59:49
  And I'm sorry for the curse.
• 59:51
  It comes out sometimes.
• 59:52
  I didn't mean any offense,
• 59:53
  But it's like, how do you not see it?
• 59:56
  It's right there in your face.
• 59:57
  They were not hiding it.
• 59:59
  It is right there.
• 1:00:00
  You know, and then, you know, we never even brought up Bill Gates and everything that he's been doing behind the scenes with his patents and trying to push certain vaccines, for example, his control of the food, you know, what he wants to do there.
• 1:00:12
  It's ridiculous.
• 1:00:13
  You know, and how many hot shots has he given people in Africa, for example, testing these,
• 1:00:18
  you know, novel vaccines that are supposed to do things.
• 1:00:22
  And then the kid's dead right there on the spot.
• 1:00:23
  And it's just like swept under the rug.
• 1:00:25
  No one talks about it.
• 1:00:26
  It just keeps moving on.
• 1:00:27
  You know, it's ridiculous.
• 1:00:29
  It's a travesty.
• 1:00:30
  It's a travesty.
• 1:00:32
  So do you...
• 1:00:32
  I'm bringing this up.
• 1:00:33
  I'm sorry.
• 1:00:34
  I was going to ask, do you wake up one day and say, why?
• 1:00:36
  Like, why my timeline?
• 1:00:38
  Like, what?
• 1:00:39
  Oh, man.
• 1:00:41
  Almost every day.
• 1:00:43
  It's one of those things where you wake up and go,
• 1:00:46
  really?
• 1:00:46
  How many more effing lines do I have to see across the sky?
• 1:00:50
  I'm tired of looking at this stuff.
• 1:00:51
  I would like a sunny day.
• 1:00:52
  And you look at more of this stuff that goes on behind the backgrounds,
• 1:00:56
  and you go, okay, yeah, okay.
• 1:00:58
  I see the patent, the Bill Gates patent that ends in 666.
• 1:01:03
  I see the Wells Fargo patent with graphene oxide and nanotechnology
• 1:01:07
  to monitor your biorhythms just to make a bank payment
• 1:01:11
  that they spray on you
• 1:01:12
  when you walk into the ATM.
• 1:01:14
  Yeah, we both touched on that one,
• 1:01:16
  I believe.
• 1:01:16
  Come on.
• 1:01:18
  You may know more than I.
• 1:01:19
  I didn't go too deep on it.
• 1:01:20
  I just, I heard about it.
• 1:01:22
  I was like, wait a minute.
• 1:01:22
  I was like looking into it.
• 1:01:23
  But I mean, can you walk through
• 1:01:25
  how they're intending to act?
• 1:01:27
  Like how are they actually
• 1:01:28
  intending to use that?
• 1:01:29
  Like, does it actually soak
• 1:01:30
  into your skin?
• 1:01:31
  Because that's what I read.
• 1:01:32
  It has to.
• 1:01:33
  And right.
• 1:01:34
  And so does it flush out?
• 1:01:35
  Does it get rid of it?
• 1:01:36
  Oh, that's the question.
• 1:01:37
  Right?
• 1:01:38
  Nobody knows.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah, I think like
• 1:01:40
  if they move forward with that,
• 1:01:41
  you're going to be constantly monitored
• 1:01:43
  biometrically no matter where you go.
• 1:01:45
  Exactly.
• 1:01:46
  You know, instead of like
• 1:01:46
  putting the chip in,
• 1:01:48
  it's like all these nanoparticles
• 1:01:49
  that you have zero idea about
• 1:01:51
  that you don't even feel.
• 1:01:52
  A hundred percent.
• 1:01:53
  And now you understand
• 1:01:55
  why Trump has pushed the 6G network.
• 1:01:58
  He pushed 5G during his first presidency.
• 1:02:01
  Remember during COVID?
• 1:02:03
  5G installation that had to be,
• 1:02:05
  you know, make or break.
• 1:02:06
  Everyone had to go out there
• 1:02:07
  and install these 5G relays.
• 1:02:09
  Now it's 6G.
• 1:02:11
  And he actually dropped a hint last week about,
• 1:02:15
  well, it will allow us to coordinate with implantable technology.
• 1:02:22
  Okay, like what kind?
• 1:02:23
  Are we talking about what Elon Musk does with Neuralink,
• 1:02:27
  which I wouldn't want anyway?
• 1:02:28
  Or are we talking about nanodust like Wells Fargo?
• 1:02:31
  If I remember the patent correctly with Wells Fargo,
• 1:02:33
  basically, you walk into that little ATM alcove
• 1:02:37
  And they spray you with this crap.
• 1:02:40
  And there are readers in that alcove to determine whether or not you are who you say you are,
• 1:02:46
  if you want to withdraw cash or make a payment.
• 1:02:50
  But like you said, how do we know that this stuff is going to be able to be detoxed from our body?
• 1:02:57
  We don't know, especially if it's a nanometal.
• 1:03:00
  Then you have to go on a detox protocol.
• 1:03:03
  It's no other way to get around it.
• 1:03:05
  and who gives them the authorization
• 1:03:08
  to spray us with nanomaterial
• 1:03:10
  that can go literally in our cells?
• 1:03:13
  Like, who do you think you effing are?
• 1:03:16
  I think those contracts are going to be signed
• 1:03:18
  just to our everyday use of personal items.
• 1:03:20
  Like, how many agreements do we already sign
• 1:03:22
  for downloading an app or accepting?
• 1:03:24
  Oh, yeah, right.
• 1:03:24
  Like, there's so much fine print.
• 1:03:26
  We never even go through it.
• 1:03:27
  We just want to go on with our lives.
• 1:03:28
  But getting back to these nanoparticles,
• 1:03:31
  this dust, look, Wells Fargo's
• 1:03:34
  one part of this, right?
• 1:03:36
  I think the patent was actually
• 1:03:38
  owned by Google.
• 1:03:40
  I think Google actually developed it.
• 1:03:42
  Which in turn is DARPA. I believe so.
• 1:03:44
  Sure.
• 1:03:45
  That's what I looked up and went
• 1:03:48
  into the other day when I was talking about
• 1:03:50
  it. It was actually, I believe Google developed it.
• 1:03:52
  I think Fargo has a hand in
• 1:03:53
  where they might have invested.
• 1:03:56
  You can fact check me on that. But
• 1:03:57
  they do have a play in here
• 1:04:00
  where they want to use this for exactly what
• 1:04:02
  you said. But
• 1:04:03
  even if you don't want to do business with Wells Fargo,
• 1:04:06
  good luck.
• 1:04:06
  What about going to a sporting event
• 1:04:07
  and they're screening you for weapons?
• 1:04:09
  Right.
• 1:04:10
  Right?
• 1:04:10
  Or anywhere.
• 1:04:11
  Sure.
• 1:04:11
  Or a concert, a movie.
• 1:04:13
  What if you're deemed to be a threat?
• 1:04:17
  Like, look,
• 1:04:18
  so we're talking about the food supply earlier, right?
• 1:04:20
  What if it gets so bad
• 1:04:21
  that they got to verify who you are just to shop?
• 1:04:24
  100%.
• 1:04:24
  And then here we go.
• 1:04:25
  Now we're using this technology for that.
• 1:04:28
  I mean, where does it end?
• 1:04:29
  And then you're going to be desperate
• 1:04:31
  because you got to survive.
• 1:04:32
  So you're going to want to go ahead and sign that dotted line.
• 1:04:34
  So sure.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, whatever.
• 1:04:35
  At some point, people just cave in and go, I just want to eat.
• 1:04:39
  I just want to turn my TV on.
• 1:04:41
  I'm good.
• 1:04:41
  Whatever.
• 1:04:42
  Yeah, go ahead.
• 1:04:43
  No harm.
• 1:04:44
  And we get back to what we kind of touched on in us humans being assets.
• 1:04:49
  We're just cattle.
• 1:04:49
  We're just cattle for these elitists.
• 1:04:51
  And we do not, I do not know who it is at the top.
• 1:04:54
  I don't think any of us do.
• 1:04:55
  No And if we did we would probably be disappointed maybe Could you imagine that Yeah right It some idiot You know this is real talk Chris
• 1:05:07
  It really is.
• 1:05:08
  It's real talk that people ignore because it sounds outlandish.
• 1:05:10
  But right before our eyes, everything that we were told is crazy is slowly happening.
• 1:05:16
  It started way back, like you said, right?
• 1:05:20
  Once we switched from the gold standard.
• 1:05:21
  And then we don't even talk about Monsanto anymore.
• 1:05:24
  and what they did.
• 1:05:25
  We don't talk about
• 1:05:26
  how these farmers
• 1:05:28
  can't grow their crops
• 1:05:29
  because if you do
• 1:05:31
  and it was pollinated
• 1:05:31
  by a bee
• 1:05:32
  that took a crop
• 1:05:33
  from another place,
• 1:05:34
  wait a minute,
• 1:05:34
  that's our genetic code
• 1:05:35
  that cross-pollinated.
• 1:05:36
  Nope, that's our crop.
• 1:05:37
  You can't have it now.
• 1:05:39
  Right?
• 1:05:39
  And that's the path
• 1:05:40
  that Bill Gates was going down.
• 1:05:41
  Why do you think
• 1:05:41
  he's buying so much farmland?
• 1:05:43
  Does it make any sense?
• 1:05:44
  He's not a farmer.
• 1:05:45
  He wants a stake in the food.
• 1:05:46
  Could you imagine him?
• 1:05:48
  Could you imagine
• 1:05:49
  old Blubber Titties Gates
• 1:05:50
  out there
• 1:05:51
  with a hole
• 1:05:51
  on a track?
• 1:05:52
  In the sun out there.
• 1:05:54
  That'd be something, man.
• 1:05:56
  But no, dude, I totally hear you on all this talk
• 1:05:59
  because it's ignored.
• 1:06:02
  It's ignored.
• 1:06:03
  It's totally ignored.
• 1:06:04
  And a lot of people just don't pick up on it,
• 1:06:07
  especially the regular mouth-breathing
• 1:06:11
  ham and eggers out there in America.
• 1:06:14
  They're all infatuated with the Met Gala
• 1:06:16
  and these bizarre outfits.
• 1:06:18
  Please.
• 1:06:19
  And it's just nauseating to think that,
• 1:06:22
  oh man, you can vote too.
• 1:06:23
  And your vote counts just as much as mine.
• 1:06:26
  Yeah, right.
• 1:06:26
  I'm with you.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Tell me about inequality and how the money needs to be spread around to everybody while
• 1:06:31
  you walk around with a $300,000 dress, a $300,000 table, and a $100,000 ticket.
• 1:06:36
  I'm sorry.
• 1:06:37
  I'm sorry.
• 1:06:37
  And a dollar sign on your eyes.
• 1:06:40
  As we round out the hour, you have many, many contacts, like you said.
• 1:06:45
  You're not going to spill the beans.
• 1:06:47
  We don't want names.
• 1:06:48
  No, I can't.
• 1:06:49
  Is there anything that you can tell us that won't get you in trouble, but will raise some eyebrows from your contacts?
• 1:07:00
  Honestly, I'm not going to say directly, but I'm just going to say what you said earlier.
• 1:07:05
  The country, and that's China, period.
• 1:07:08
  It's not being cliche because everybody thinks China wants, you know, it's always China, right?
• 1:07:14
  But watch China.
• 1:07:15
  There was a prediction by many people who pay attention, say that, that 2027 was the year that China was going to act up and engage its plans, primarily with Taiwan.
• 1:07:28
  But that seems to be kicked down the road after seeing what happened in Iran.
• 1:07:35
  You've noticed, as we talked earlier, China hasn't been too, too involved with Iran.
• 1:07:39
  They're not really bailing them out.
• 1:07:40
  They're giving them a little bit of support here and there.
• 1:07:43
  But they're not going to militarily step in.
• 1:07:45
  If they do, they know that's going to split them up
• 1:07:49
  and also split their ability to pursue their agenda,
• 1:07:51
  which is really the control of the Indo-Pacific region.
• 1:07:54
  The Belt and Road Initiative is a real thing
• 1:07:57
  and has been admitted.
• 1:07:58
  But the degree in which you're trying to pursue that
• 1:08:01
  for economic gains is the real, real issue
• 1:08:05
  that a lot of people don't talk about.
• 1:08:06
  They just think that, well, it's just opening trade.
• 1:08:08
  It's just opening up trade routes to more people
• 1:08:10
  and more access.
• 1:08:11
  No, it's really to funnel money and control to China.
• 1:08:14
  So I'm going to say from what I know, what I've been told,
• 1:08:18
  we got to be very, very careful.
• 1:08:20
  We really got to be cautious of China.
• 1:08:22
  And that could also, I didn't bring this up,
• 1:08:24
  but that could also be why, like, were they're handling Iran,
• 1:08:29
  we could say, like you already said, maybe we are not successful.
• 1:08:32
  But if we go all in, the U.S. themselves cannot respond to China.
• 1:08:39
  I know for a fact there's been a lot of activity in the Pacific region,
• 1:08:42
  a lot of trainings, a lot of things going on militarily that's been happening.
• 1:08:48
  And if you're also reading the tea leaves,
• 1:08:49
  you see how Japan has finally no longer become a passive nation.
• 1:08:53
  They're very vocal about how they want to handle things in their area,
• 1:08:58
  developing weapons and selling them now.
• 1:09:00
  Let's not forget, historically, Japan at one time ruled China.
• 1:09:03
  They invaded them, that little country.
• 1:09:04
  okay they historically are warriors of a like yes very few have ever been and as small as they are
• 1:09:12
  if they get motivated enough they can be very dangerous on their own so if if china acts up
• 1:09:18
  the only partner they really have their militarily is who north korea um which they don't have a good
• 1:09:26
  relationship with either no no they don't but we know kim jong come on the guy i mean he's he's
• 1:09:32
  like the guy just that feels sad for not being invited to the party, right? He's just sitting
• 1:09:36
  there watching from front like, oh, what about me? You guys need my help? No, all right, whatever.
• 1:09:39
  And he's just waiting. He's waiting. Every so often, he wants to remind the world how powerful
• 1:09:44
  and important they are by launching a missile that just falls in the ocean. But now they have
• 1:09:49
  nukes. They developed them. And that's where we're at. So whether the relationship is strong,
• 1:09:55
  in the end, who else is going to side with China in that area to the degree that they can
• 1:10:02
  actually make any kind of dent in the situation, for example, it would be North Korea.
• 1:10:08
  Definitely.
• 1:10:09
  And then that puts South Korea in a problem, right?
• 1:10:11
  And in an issue.
• 1:10:12
  And then we have the Philippines, as you brought up earlier.
• 1:10:15
  So China is right now watching.
• 1:10:20
  They're taking notes.
• 1:10:21
  They've been taking notes ever since Venezuela, by the way.
• 1:10:23
  Ever since that, what we did with Maduro.
• 1:10:26
  They've been taking notes.
• 1:10:28
  They did not respond.
• 1:10:29
  They didn't get aggressive.
• 1:10:30
  So they did the whole, we condemn this.
• 1:10:32
  Sure, everybody does that.
• 1:10:34
  But what they're doing is taking notes to see how we respond, how we act.
• 1:10:37
  What are we going to use to retaliate and defend ourselves?
• 1:10:41
  They are watching everything right now.
• 1:10:42
  And they are going to be implementing their plans soon.
• 1:10:47
  And that's going to be the real issue there, Chris.
• 1:10:50
  It's not Iran.
• 1:10:51
  Iran is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to what China may do soon.
• 1:10:56
  And I'm not saying it's tomorrow, but the signs are there.
• 1:11:00
  The assessments are there.
• 1:11:01
  And everything really points to China.
• 1:11:04
  Everything.
• 1:11:05
  Russia, unfortunately, yeah, Putin's dangerous.
• 1:11:09
  He's crazy.
• 1:11:10
  But China's who we have to be looking out for right now.
• 1:11:13
  So I'll just say let's pay attention to that.
• 1:11:16
  It funny because there a lot of rumors going around that 2027 is going to be the year for disclosure Right So that would make perfect sense that if they try to play both of those angles off of one another China tries to implement whatever it tries to implement
• 1:11:34
  in 2027.
• 1:11:36
  And then, you know,
• 1:11:37
  we take the world to the brink
• 1:11:38
  and then finally we have
• 1:11:39
  confirmation about
• 1:11:41
  extradimensional or interdimensional
• 1:11:43
  or extraterrestrial aliens
• 1:11:45
  or demons, right?
• 1:11:46
  If you're listening to
• 1:11:47
  Anna Paulina Meyerhofer.
• 1:11:49
  Remember COVID?
• 1:11:52
  Oh, yes.
• 1:11:52
  The CIA admitted we had aliens.
• 1:11:53
  They released everything and no one paid attention.
• 1:11:55
  Exactly.
• 1:11:56
  But now we're on the precipice of more releases.
• 1:12:00
  I know you're trying to wrap up, but is it true?
• 1:12:02
  Is it true?
• 1:12:03
  I heard this rumor.
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  Is it true that there is supposedly some meeting between the Catholic church and Christian leadership about some alleged exposure or revealing of some kind of aliens or lizard people or whatever?
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  I heard a couple of things.
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  So the first thing I, and you're kind of on the right path, but there's more to it.
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  Okay.
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  So the Vatican has its own, I guess, own group.
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  I don't know what they would call it because it's an independent state in itself.
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  But it has its own group that focuses on extraterrestrials and aliens.
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  So that's the first thing.
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  Second thing is, is that yes, there were apparently meetings being held by with pastors and the Trump administration.
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  Now, that is not Catholicism.
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  So you've got the evangelical route or maybe the Christian Zionist route that's being filtered,
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  that's having this information filtered through it.
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  Then there was a guy by the name of Larry Johnson, who's on Judge Napolitano, I think,
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  weekly.
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  Now, he's an Obama guy, so you got to take what he says with a grain of salt.
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  And he has suggested that there's now an actual movement in the United States to fracture
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  Catholicism so that you would have a U.S. Catholicism. And if you do that, then you're
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  probably going to start to see that kind of information trickle down through them.
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  So I find that whole narrative about disclosure very funny because we saw these mysterious drones
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  over New Jersey and other installations and nobody knew anything about it. We were helpless,
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  right? I don't buy that at all. I thought that was a bellwether. They were trying to gauge
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  public reaction in a War of the Worlds style radio broadcast for the new millennia.
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  And what we did was basically nothing. We sat around and said, yeah, we saw the drones. Oh my
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  gosh, did you see them? We don't know who they're with. We don't know what they're doing. We don't
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  know why they're up there. But yes, we saw them. And then we went all over social media.
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  That didn't really go anywhere. So they tried the in your face, we're not giving a yes or no answer.
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  so the way to do it is to try to do it on a metaphysical spiritual level where you're saying
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  okay you want to know the mysteries of the universe you didn't buy the science route you
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  didn't buy the lights in the sky route we're now going to try and blend demonology and
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  extraterrestrials and angels and it's it's let's see what happens to take a phrase from trump let's
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  see what happens yeah i um that's interesting and i i see the i see the play here because it's what's
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  been used by i mean let's be honest marxist communists um and even the nazi propagandists
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  you know joseph gobl's and it's just that slow drip of conditioning people to accept what's to
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  come so that they're not overwhelmed and panicked i mean why do you think we see these messages in
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  movies over and over that later like hold on i just saw i saw in a movie years ago this is happening
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  now? This is weird. So I see that. That's crazy, man. We'll see where it goes. Hopefully it's
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  Yeah, we'll see what happens.
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  Hopefully.
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  It's all fun stuff. This is why we do what we do, right? We job.
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  Right.
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  We talk about this kind of material. We see where it goes. We genuflect. We
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  try to philosophize our way out of these delicate situations. And then what happens? Nothing.
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  It just goes on. Life continues. And we continue to do what we do. So George,
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  people want to find you, where can they go?
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  Oh, easiest way to find all the links and everything would just be go to worldablazepodcast.com.
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  You're going to find everything there.
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  So you're going to find the links to YouTube, all the social medias.
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  If you're looking for my social media, all my handles are at symbol.
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  So at fonts ablaze, F-O-N-T-E-S, ablaze.
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  But yeah, just go to the website, worldablazepodcast.com.
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  You'll pretty much find whatever you need there, wherever you want to go.
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  and I think that's the easiest place to point people's is is that direction for sure um and with
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  that I mean I just want to say hey man I appreciate this conversation this this was you know we went
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  from like the serious hard whatever to like you know aliens did you hear about did you hear about
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  that thing and and and it's good it's good convo because I think it's all things that humans need to
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  be need to be considered you know they need to consider they need to talk about it's not just
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  Especially in this day and age.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, nothing is off the table at this point.
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  You know?
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  Absolutely, man.
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  I agree with you.
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  So, George, thank you very much for being on the Chris Michaels Show.
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  It has been a riveting interview night for this Thursday.
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  And do not be a stranger.
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  No.
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  Always remember, you can come back at any time.
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  Just not every day.
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  It gets stale, right?
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  But do not hesitate to be a regular guest with old Chris Michaels.
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  will jawbone about everything we can possibly think of.
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  George, thank you very much for joining me
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  on the Chris Michaels Show.
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  Thank you, Chris.
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  Thank you.