Latest / The PCR Sports Show / The PCR Sports Show - Friday 20th February 2026 - with Gemma Stevenson, Paracheer champion, sports media presenter and LTA tennis coach
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- 0:16Welcome to PCR Sports. Good evening and welcome to
- 0:20another edition of the PCR Sports Show here on PCR FM.
- 0:25Thank you for joining us for the start of your sporting weekend.
- 0:29I'm Neelesh. And as always on our show, which
- 0:31is every Friday between 6:00 and 7:00, we're here to shine a
- 0:35light on the clubs, athletes and volunteers who keep our sporting
- 0:39community thriving. If you're involved in a local
- 0:42sport, this is your hour and tonight is no different.
- 0:47We're joined this evening by Gemma Stevenson who is let's
- 0:51start here. I've got a long list of
- 0:53descriptions that Gemma's given me.
- 0:55She's an ICU world champion, an athlete, journalist, presenter
- 0:59and also a young ambassador. So no doubt we'll be covering
- 1:02many of those subjects during the course of the next hour or
- 1:06so. But first, let's cover off those
- 1:10local sporting headlines this evening with DIPAM.
- 1:12Thank you very much. Thank you Nilesh, good evening
- 1:14Peterborough and these are your sporting headlines for this
- 1:17evening on PCR Sports starting with football.
- 1:20Peter United suffered back-to-back defeats on their
- 1:22travels to Yorkshire over the past week.
- 1:24The Posh went down to nil last Saturday and followed it up with
- 1:27a 21 loss at Barnsley on Tuesday evening.
- 1:29Despite Cairo Lisby giving them the lead.
- 1:32They return to action tomorrow as Exeter City make the trip to
- 1:34the Western Home Stadium. Peter United Women fixture at
- 1:37Stourbridge was postponed last Sunday, however Wednesday
- 1:40evening's name neen Derby at Pyms Park went ahead with Posh
- 1:43running out comfortable three nil winners, goals from Kira
- 1:46Rye, Kia Perkins and Jess Russo sealed the victory.
- 1:50They're back in action on Sunday with a league trip to Lee Field
- 1:52Athletic. Peterborough Sports were beaten
- 1:553 one at home by Spennymoor Town last Saturday, with Luka Miller
- 1:59netting his 10th goal of the season.
- 2:00Sports travel to Manchester to face Radcliffe tomorrow before
- 2:03heading to Bedford Town on Tuesday evening.
- 2:06In ice hockey, Peterborough Phantoms had a busy week with
- 2:09three fixtures and mixed results.
- 2:11The Phantoms began the trip with the to face Telford Tigers last
- 2:14Saturday which ended in a 74 defeat.
- 2:17They responded the following day with a strong four one home win
- 2:20over Solway Sharks, however they however the Wednesday evening's
- 2:23clash at Planet Ice saw Romford Raiders claim a 52V.
- 2:27This weekend the City side face face a double header against
- 2:30Bristol Pitbulls, starting with the away trip to Bristol on
- 2:32Saturday before returning home on Sunday with the face off at
- 2:355:30 PM. Luke Ferreras has celebrated
- 2:38becoming the Peterborough Phantom's all time record goal
- 2:40scorer with a hat trick on Sunday at night against
- 2:43Southwest Sharks. Ferrerara had already surpassed
- 2:45Alice Padaleck's previous club record of four 248 goals during
- 2:49Saturday's 74 National League defeat at Telford Tigers.
- 2:53His three goal performance on Sunday took his overall tally to
- 2:55252 goals, which is a remarkable milestone for The Phantoms
- 2:59forward in field hockey. The women's first will stand
- 3:03outside, winning two nil away at Cambridge City thanks to brace
- 3:06from Hannah Grimshaw 1 field goal and one penalty corner the
- 3:10field. The result extends their lead at
- 3:12the top of the table to seven points with five games of
- 3:14reigning. They host Spalding first this
- 3:16Saturday. Elsewhere there were wins for
- 3:18the men's thirds, the 4th and the 6th, while women's seconds
- 3:21and thirds and fourths all picked up draws.
- 3:24The men's first had no National League fixture but returned to
- 3:26return this Saturday at 6:00 PM at Bretton Gate, hosting
- 3:30Nottingham University, who sit one point above them in the
- 3:33table. This weekend's home fixtures
- 3:35start at 10:00 AM with the women's fifths and conclude with
- 3:38the Men's 1st at 6:00 PM. And on Sunday the club look
- 3:41forward to hosting Wisbech and Pelicans for a mini hockey
- 3:44tournament featuring the Under Eights, the Under 10's and the
- 3:47Under twelves which promises to be a fantastic day of junior
- 3:51hockey in cricket. City based cricket and recent
- 3:54guest Nick Andrews played a key role in another Silver Ashes
- 3:57triumph for England. The England Over 70s cricket
- 3:59team retained the Over 70s Ashes with a clean sweep in the three
- 4:03in three one day matches in Adelaide.
- 4:06Andrew plays his club cricket for Market Deeping, featured in
- 4:08all three games. England now have travelled to
- 4:10New Zealand for the Over 70s World Cup.
- 4:13The defending champions, having won on home side in 2024, began
- 4:16their title defence against India with a victory in
- 4:19Christchurch. Today they will also face
- 4:21Canada, Australia, Sri Lanka and the United States, New Zealand
- 4:25and the rest of the World. 11 in a round Robin tournament with
- 4:28the top 2 progressing to the final at Hadley Oval in
- 4:30Christchurch In Boxing City. Boxer Shay Gowler's promising
- 4:35explosive action as he makes his professional debut at super
- 4:38lightweighting Doncaster at the end of March.
- 4:40The 20 year old believes that the time is right to turn
- 4:42professional after an impressive amateur career.
- 4:45Peter were born and bred. Gowler claimed national title,
- 4:48won at prestigious Haringey Box Cups and represented England
- 4:51internationally. The former Police Boxing Club
- 4:54fighter bows out of the amateur ranks with around 50 wins from
- 4:57his 65 contest so far as he prepares to step into the paid
- 5:01ranks for the first time. And in Amir Khan Academy and Top
- 5:06Yard Boxing Club talent Demolition, Dan Connors made it
- 5:09eight wins from 8 bouts as he claimed gold at the New Era
- 5:12Boxing Club Cup at Bain Tree Leisure Centre.
- 5:14Connors went straight into the under 38 semifinals where he
- 5:18faced Tommy Smith of Kent Boxing Club, progressing to the final
- 5:22and the victory over Jason Davis of the Royston Boxing Club and
- 5:25it secured him another unanimous points to win him his first gold
- 5:29in his promising young career. And he's only 11 years old in
- 5:33athletics. Maxwell enjoyed a superb outing
- 5:35at the Eastern Masters Indoor Championships at Lee Valley,
- 5:38claiming three goals, competing in the over 35 category.
- 5:41Hall 1 High Jump with a clearance of 1.7 meters added
- 5:45added victory in the 60 meter hurdles and topped the podium in
- 5:48the shot. He capped off the weekend with
- 5:50bronze and the long jump as well.
- 5:53Claire Smith struck double in double gold in the over 45
- 5:56sprints, winning both the 200 and the 400 meters in the 200
- 5:59performance, setting a new championship record underlying
- 6:02in an outstanding championships. Meanwhile, Claire's husband
- 6:04Julian also impressed, clocking 7.96 seconds to finish third in
- 6:09the 60 meter and running 25.84 / 200 meters.
- 6:13He later collected a silver medal at the Southern County
- 6:15Championship rounding of a strong set of performances for
- 6:18the couple. Panvac veterans enjoyed a strong
- 6:20championship with multiple medals across the track and
- 6:23field. John Spriggs claimed a double
- 6:25gold in over 70, triple, triple jump and long jump while Dave
- 6:29Brown won the over 35800m gold and Matt Parsons secured the
- 6:34over 45 silver. Simon A Church took over the
- 6:38over 50 shot gold and there was a one and two for Panvac in the
- 6:42over 70 shot with Kevin Bates winning gold ahead of Tim
- 6:44Needham. Jim Gillespie also added the
- 6:47over 60 shot silver to the tally.
- 6:49Panvac's Lawson Capes finished run up in the shop at the Vaxio
- 6:53Indoor Indoor International in Sweden.
- 6:55The 17 year old produced a personal best throw of 17.31
- 6:58meters in the six kilogram shot, finishing just 7 centimeters
- 7:02behind Irish athlete Thomas Hanlon who almost a year who is
- 7:06almost a year older. Another strong performance from
- 7:08one of the region's most prom, most promising young throwers.
- 7:12And finally in snooker, Gary Skipworth made a history on
- 7:15Sunday by becoming the first man to successfully defend the
- 7:18Snooker Shootout title at the Court Club in Breton.
- 7:20The 53 year old defeated Huntington's Richard Appleby
- 7:23Appleley 70 to 18 in the final to lift the Mark Housden Trophy.
- 7:28Next month the tour heads to Broadway Club for the Snooker
- 7:31Classic where 16 players will battle it out for the title.
- 7:35Those are news. Those are your news headlines
- 7:37and backed in Ilesh. Brilliant dipam, thank you very
- 7:39much. So much going on in the city
- 7:41once again, a couple of weeks. Yeah, absolutely amazing.
- 7:44So I mean, the cricket's brilliant.
- 7:46We had Nick on the show a few weeks ago just before he
- 7:50embarked on his trip Down Under. Was looking forward to and very
- 7:53excited by playing in the Ashes and the World Cup and it's great
- 7:57to hear that they won the Ashes. Fantastic achievement.
- 7:59Yeah, going well so far for them and just need the weather to be
- 8:02on the side. I think the first game was off
- 8:05to the rain yeah in the first game yeah against India, they
- 8:08won by 10 wickets so comfortable.
- 8:11Bring our guests in straight away here, Gemma, Peterborough
- 8:14sport. I mean, I'm.
- 8:15Thriving. I'm just wondering if the over
- 8:1870s England team want to go and compete in place of the actual
- 8:22England team in the after section.
- 8:25Given what? Happens.
- 8:27That's a very valid point. And I think Nick did make that
- 8:29comment to me actually a couple of weeks ago.
- 8:32I think when when they'd won the silver Ashes out there in
- 8:34Australia, you said, yeah, what we've done, what the senior men
- 8:38couldn't do, shall we say? Yeah.
- 8:41And during their five match series.
- 8:42So that's a very valid point, Gemma.
- 8:45Brilliant stuff, right? We're just going to take a short
- 8:47break, but we'll be back with Gemma Stevenson and we'll be
- 8:51talking all about the inclusion of disabled people in the sport
- 8:55of cheerleading. You're listening to PCR Sport.
- 9:10Good evening. Welcome back to the PCR Sports
- 9:13Show here on PCR FM. Thank you as always for joining
- 9:16us on this Friday evening. We're here between 6:00 and 7:00
- 9:21highlighting the local clubs, athletes and volunteers who keep
- 9:24our sporting community very much thriving.
- 9:27Tonight is no different. We've got in the studio with us
- 9:30Gemma Stevenson, who when she sent over a notes to me listed
- 9:35of ICU World champion, athlete, journalist, presenter and also a
- 9:40young ambassador for Dystonia UK.
- 9:43Have I pronounced that correctly first of all?
- 9:46Yes, Dystonia is it's a neurological condition.
- 9:49And I remember when actually Dana, I love Dana.
- 9:52She's like the the lead on kind of getting ambassadors involved
- 9:57and dystonia has a reputation of being an older person's
- 10:02condition. So if you think about musicians
- 10:07hand and stuff like that, that's what people naturally associate
- 10:10with dystonia. But it can happen at any age.
- 10:12Mine was as a result of a car crash and a brain injury.
- 10:15But people who follow sport might also know Paralympic
- 10:20swimmer Tully Kearney. So Dana was on a mission to get
- 10:22younger people as ambassadors. Yeah, because she want, she
- 10:26wanted it to be seen as it. You don't just get it when
- 10:29you're over 60, you know people. Can make representation, isn't
- 10:31it? Exactly, you know, and it it, it
- 10:33was wrongly being represented as just something you got in old
- 10:36age. And so it's mine and Tully's job
- 10:40to prove that younger people can thrive with dystonia.
- 10:44Although I don't know whether I'm apparently younger anymore
- 10:46because I'm 40, but you're. Certainly doing that, aren't
- 10:50you? You know, let's let's start with
- 10:52where should we start? The inclusion of disabled people
- 10:55in the sport of cheerleading. Yeah, Para Cheer.
- 11:00Tell us what it's all about. So I first met the man who
- 11:04created Parity, Rick Rogers, in about 2012.
- 11:08We did a wheelchair dance sport course together because he was a
- 11:11former dancer as well, like me, and we've kind of maintained the
- 11:15relationship. And then he created the division
- 11:18of cheerleading called the Adaptive Abilities.
- 11:19Now Adaptive Abilities Cheerleading is where non
- 11:22disabled and disabled athletes can compete together in the
- 11:25sport of cheerleading. They have national teams for
- 11:28England, Scotland, Wales. They go to the World
- 11:30Championships in Florida every year.
- 11:31They're quite successful. I even I went with the one year,
- 11:36I went with the performance side of cheer that year rather than
- 11:39the cheer, cheer side. So I went with the hip hop squad
- 11:42and we won a gold medal. And you're proudly got that in
- 11:46front of you, haven't you? Yeah.
- 11:47Yeah, it does actually sit on the entrance to my flat as well.
- 11:51So like if you go into my flat, my other half like just goes,
- 11:54that is just a wall of you because it's got all my tennis
- 11:57trophies and my cheerleading trophies in and, and I'm like,
- 12:00look, I won them. I worked hard for them.
- 12:01They're going on display. But so I started in the adaptive
- 12:04abilities division and that's how it started.
- 12:07And then sort of about September this year, Rick got back in
- 12:11contact with me. COVID happened and I kind of was
- 12:13like, I need to concentrate on my career.
- 12:15I'm getting older now. I'd quite like a job and a home
- 12:18and not to be, you know, running around the world every so often.
- 12:22As nice as that probably sounds, there's a lot of hard work
- 12:24involved. And so he got in contact with me
- 12:27and he says we're developing A Paralympic cheerleading squad.
- 12:32So the difference with that is there's no non disabled athletes
- 12:35in and every one of us have what is called a Paralympic eligible
- 12:39impairment. So people who don't know
- 12:41Paralympic sport, not every disabled person can compete at
- 12:45the Paralympics. There are 8 sections that you
- 12:49have to, you have to tick one of those eight boxes to be able to
- 12:52compete. Yeah.
- 12:54So not everybody with a disability can compete,
- 12:58obviously skill wise, not everybody can compete.
- 13:01It's like being an Olympian Olympian.
- 13:03Not everybody can be Olympian. So there's that.
- 13:05But there's also, if you, if you don't have one of these disabled
- 13:09disabilities and it is quite strict, you, you're not
- 13:12Paralympic eligible. He knew with me that I'd already
- 13:15been classified into wheelchair tennis.
- 13:17So he's kind of like, I know you're safe.
- 13:18That's a tick box already. I don't think you're going to
- 13:21cause us any problems. So it was just determining what
- 13:25kind of level of disability I was termed as having for
- 13:29cheerleading. So people might be scared about
- 13:32this considering that I am a base in cheerleading.
- 13:34So that's the person that lifts the humans up.
- 13:36I don't actually have any grip. So people are probably listening
- 13:40and going, you're lifting humans up without grip.
- 13:43I have adaptations. So I have these specially
- 13:46designed grip aids that my flyer stands on so that I don't
- 13:51actually have to use my hands to hold them.
- 13:54It's a lot safer for them. And because anybody who knows me
- 13:57seen me attempt to, you know, pick up a pen and drop it on the
- 14:00floor. So would worry my flyer a bit.
- 14:02But it also takes a lot of me going to the gym and
- 14:06conditioning and building strength that that, you know,
- 14:10sometimes dystonia doesn't let you have and, and that's the
- 14:13biggest thing. So with dystonia, it's
- 14:14unpredictable. You don't know when you're going
- 14:16to spasm. So it was an incident at last
- 14:19training only about a week ago. I had the flyer and I went into
- 14:24spasm. She ended up in the splits over
- 14:26my head and I could not move my hand at all and would.
- 14:30That be to catch her effectively.
- 14:31No. So she was in my hands.
- 14:33Right. OK.
- 14:33We also have back spots, which are people who stand just in
- 14:36case the stump falls. Yeah, so my back spot had to go
- 14:39into action and and kind of just go, OK, we're still in this
- 14:43position, let's just get her off.
- 14:44But that's also the the alertness then, isn't it?
- 14:47As well, they've got to be switched on to these occasions
- 14:51that may happen and that's reassuring for you as well as
- 14:54your other athletes. I mean, yeah, as much as it's,
- 14:56you know, I have a really good flyer.
- 14:58She's called Anna Lee. She's 14 and the talent this
- 15:02girl has as a teenager is incredible.
- 15:04Like she's so good and she can always see ways round and I'm
- 15:08like, you're going to be fantastic.
- 15:10And it's great to see that there.
- 15:11You know, there are those 14 year olds in the squad because
- 15:13as I said, I'm 40, I'm not I'm not going to be around.
- 15:16I'm I'm not going to be around till I'm over 70.
- 15:17It's not going to happen. So so to see the young talent
- 15:22come through as well through this development programme is
- 15:25absolutely brilliant. And and I also have some I also
- 15:28have to have a fully switched on back spot because they have to
- 15:32be ready to go because in para cheerleading, often the bases
- 15:37are the wheelchair users. So, but I have a great, we have
- 15:42stunt groups, I have a great stunt group who kind of started
- 15:46to predict when the wobbles are going to happen.
- 15:48So it's very inclusive. That's what's coming across to
- 15:50me very clearly here as well. In terms of the sport itself,
- 15:55it's not just for, you know, disabled people, this, you know,
- 16:00there is a chance here, there's an opportunity here to mix able
- 16:03bodied and disabled people. Into this sport and that's what
- 16:06adaptive abilities is and that's what I would probably credit
- 16:09Rick with doing. So in a lot of Paralympic
- 16:11sports, it's quite cruel. You either are classified in or
- 16:15you're classified out. If you're if you're classified
- 16:18out, you're not non disabled enough to compete with a non
- 16:23disabled team. But then you're there's a
- 16:25campaign called not disabled enough.
- 16:26So I'll use their slogan, you're not disabled enough to compete
- 16:29in Paralympic sports. So it leaves this kind of gap
- 16:31where there's a group of disabled people not able to take
- 16:34part. But what I credit Rick for doing
- 16:37with para cheer is creating that adaptive abilities because you
- 16:41know, we could have somebody come to the para cheer squad.
- 16:45They've been training with us that they're brilliant at what
- 16:48they do. And then just the classification
- 16:51says you're not the right disability, but because Rick has
- 16:54developed first that adaptive abilities, there is a place for
- 16:57them to go. That means that they're not
- 17:00locked out of the sport. And that's what's truly
- 17:02inclusive about cheerleading. Opportunity for everybody,
- 17:05irrespective of ability at that point, and to take part in
- 17:09something that they enjoy and love to do, for example.
- 17:12As well. Just some of the core purposes
- 17:15from the information that you've given me here, for example.
- 17:17So you've talked about this and it's come across loud and clear,
- 17:20I think to promote inclusion and diversity in cheerleading, to
- 17:23give disabled athletes a platform to perform and compete
- 17:26at elite levels. And you've certainly done that
- 17:30because of the medal that you've got there, proudly displayed
- 17:32this evening to build momentum towards Para Olympic sport
- 17:36recognition for cheerleading. That's the point I want to sort
- 17:41of elaborate on is that to get it at say for example, LA 2028,
- 17:46that might be a bit soon, but are we talking getting it to
- 17:49that level? Yeah, I mean, this is the thing.
- 17:51So about 18 months ago, cheerleading was recognised as a
- 17:54sport by Sport England. It was recognised as a sport and
- 17:59there's a lot of work going on behind the scenes to kind of
- 18:02maybe look at it with the Para cheer program.
- 18:06It's being developed by a charity called Cheer For
- 18:08Everyone, which is run by Rick Rogers, and it's been developed
- 18:13there. And it's to say, OK, so we're
- 18:16pushing for it in the Olympics, but guess what?
- 18:18It could be in the Paralympics, too, because actually, and it's
- 18:21also looking to be the first sport in Paralympic history to
- 18:25have every eligible impairment on the floor.
- 18:29OK, the 8 classification. So if you look at the
- 18:32Paralympics, when you watch it, look, you can watch the Winter
- 18:35Paralympics. Yeah, in a few weeks.
- 18:38Often it's only set impairments that are allowed to compete.
- 18:41So wheelchair tennis, yeah. You know, you don't see para
- 18:43standing players or visually impaired players.
- 18:45You only see wheelchair players. Yeah, it's and it wants to be
- 18:49that inclusive. It wants to be like we have, I
- 18:51mean, on our squad at the minute, we have visually
- 18:53impaired athletes, we have athletes with invisible
- 18:56disabilities that, you know, it's really important to have
- 18:59that representation. And we also have wheelchair
- 19:02users. So it's really spreading across.
- 19:05I also have a hearing impairment.
- 19:06I'm not hearing impaired enough to classify for a deaf sport,
- 19:11but and also my hearing impairment is to do with the
- 19:14function of my brain rather than my ears.
- 19:16So I wouldn't classify under there, but it's, you know, that
- 19:20the goal is that you have every impairment represented on that
- 19:25floor in a Paralympic team and. Again, it's coming across.
- 19:29We're breaking down barriers here to make it inclusive the
- 19:32sport more inclusive of cheerleading.
- 19:35Well, yeah, I think if anybody said to you, we've got a
- 19:38cheerleader with no grip, they they would be like, shut up, you
- 19:44know? But that's how it is.
- 19:45And it's what's really is a really supportive space
- 19:48actually, where you try things out.
- 19:50So things will do things it won't work, but you're not
- 19:54judged for that not working. You're not judged for having to
- 19:58go back to the drawing board and say, you know, how do we make
- 20:00this work? So the other thing is with my
- 20:02dystonia, I'm, I have Hemi dystonia, which is my right side
- 20:06affected predominantly. So even things like twists and
- 20:08turns, if you ask me to turn to the left, I'm fine if you ask me
- 20:11to turn to the right. So it's things like changing the
- 20:15stunts around. So that I can be part of them.
- 20:18And that's part of the adaptiveness of what you're
- 20:21trying to achieve here. Yeah.
- 20:22And is, you know, some of the time it ends up making a
- 20:26beautiful look on stage because then we've got opposites and
- 20:28opposites and it's like, oh, it's like we planned it, but we
- 20:31didn't. So, but that's that's the thing.
- 20:34I think it's the supportive atmosphere of this para cheer
- 20:39development program and eventually I mean I know the
- 20:42hope is we're doing a showcase at worlds this April, which
- 20:46World's Championships takes place in Florida in Orlando
- 20:49that's. Where you won your medal.
- 20:51Yeah, that's where I won my medal what, 7 years ago now?
- 20:53Wow. And then the hope is to maybe
- 20:57potentially have a showcase at La 2028, OK, that the hope is
- 21:02there and the. Olympics or the Paralympics?
- 21:06It would probably be the Paralympics start with, which is
- 21:08going to be awkward from me because I'm usually there as the
- 21:10media and I'm usually there sitting and eating the free cake
- 21:13and drinking the free coffee. And I'm going to have to if, if
- 21:16that happens, I've got a real crisis.
- 21:19Sure, your coach will have a word with you about that, no
- 21:21doubt. I'll have the free coffee and
- 21:23cake after the actual show case if it does happen.
- 21:26But it that will be really weird for me because actually my
- 21:29Olympic and Paralympic journey didn't start as a reporter.
- 21:32It started at London 2012 and I was a performer in the opening
- 21:36ceremony. So my journey over the last sort
- 21:39of I sat in Paris and went, this is really weird.
- 21:42Like in the last 12 years I've performed in the opening
- 21:44ceremony. I've been in the media rooms and
- 21:49to see where my journey went from that, you know, they talk
- 21:52about the legacy of London 2012. I remember being there, you know
- 21:56that that I was. My mum always laughs so I was in
- 21:59the NHS section. I'm going to look back actually,
- 22:02because the opening ceremony obviously was all over.
- 22:04Yeah, I was in the NHS section and she was.
- 22:07So my mum and dad got a chance to watch it live because because
- 22:10we found out too late that we were in the opening ceremony,
- 22:12there wasn't the chance for them to get tickets.
- 22:14So they got invited. The organising committee invited
- 22:16them to address rehearsal. So it then resulted in my mum
- 22:19and dad watching me on TV hearing the commentary.
- 22:22And I remember, I think it was Trevor Nelson actually that was
- 22:26doing the the commentary on that day.
- 22:27And he went and yeah. And all these people who are in
- 22:31this NHS section have given up their time as well as being
- 22:37nurses and physiotherapists and working in our NHS.
- 22:41And my mum sat there listening to listening to commentary and
- 22:44go Gemma faints her blood, she ain't working for the NHS.
- 22:48Brilliant stuff, right? We're just going to go to a
- 22:51short break here, but we'll be back with the Gemma Stevenson
- 22:54and talking more about disabled people in the sport of
- 22:58cheerleading. And no doubt we'll probably also
- 23:00discuss posh women who Gemma covers and also wheelchair
- 23:06tennis as well as Gemma is also a coach here in Cambridgeshire
- 23:09for the LTA at Camborne. So back very shortly after these
- 23:14messages. You're listening to PCR sports.
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- 23:37PCRFM. Thank you for joining us once
- 23:39again. We're chatting to the wonderful
- 23:41Gemma Stevenson this evening and she's got quite an array of jobs
- 23:46that she does to say the least. But tonight we're talking about
- 23:51the inclusion of disabled people in the sport of cheerleading.
- 23:56Gemma, you've achieved quite a bit.
- 23:58One could say you do not want to sit still is the impression I'm
- 24:01getting here. Yeah, I don't like sitting
- 24:03still. Even when I'm ill.
- 24:04I get told off. I'm like, I will go out and do
- 24:07this and yeah, I it's the point. Also in the week I go, I need to
- 24:11give myself two days off a week. That never happens.
- 24:14Like I The thing is I think. Especially with you so busy at
- 24:16weekends with sports. Yeah, no.
- 24:18And I tend to say yes to everything which I need to learn
- 24:21not to. That's like that's my problem
- 24:23sometimes, I think sometimes I need to say your.
- 24:25Husband's sitting here, isn't he?
- 24:27Or we're not married yet, Sorry. Apologies your.
- 24:29Partner's. Sitting here, apologies, getting
- 24:30carried away there, but your partner's sitting here and he's
- 24:32heard all of that. Yeah, I have given we're not
- 24:35married yet. I have given him a hint that we
- 24:36are going to be in Florida outside the Disney Princess
- 24:38Castle and it might be a good time to get married or propose
- 24:42to propose. I have reminded him maybe as a
- 24:45big Disney fan, my dream has always been to be proposed to
- 24:49outside the Disney Castle. So you know, you know, he's
- 24:51hearing it now again. So it's been on radio so we
- 24:54can't get out of it. It's.
- 24:55Going to let that sink in for us to be honest, as I see his face
- 24:58over there in the corner. But no, in all seriousness,
- 25:02you're doing such great work in terms of being an ambassador for
- 25:06Dystonia UK and showing that, you know, it doesn't have to be
- 25:11a barrier. It's a sport generally, you
- 25:14know, not just cheerleading that we've talked about and the
- 25:16inclusion of disabled people in the sport of cheerleading.
- 25:19You know, you're also Alta accredited coach in Camborne for
- 25:23tennis as well. And that just shows that, you
- 25:26know, despite Dystonia, you're able to still take part in many
- 25:32a sport. I think for me, you feel the
- 25:34weight of responsibility because I mean, I'm sure people at home
- 25:40have read the headlines that are going around about disabled
- 25:43people at the minute. You know, a lot of the time I'm
- 25:46you're either like me and kind of put on this pedestal and
- 25:48saying look what she's doing, or you are a scrounger who's on
- 25:52benefits. And that's not what disabled
- 25:53people are like. And I think for me, I feel that
- 25:56responsibility. I mean, people often say, we'll
- 25:59use me as an example, say, but you work, so why can't?
- 26:01And I say, yeah, but you've got to understand how the system
- 26:04works for disabled people. It's hard.
- 26:07I don't rely on the care system. I'm very lucky to not be able to
- 26:10have to. I have my other half who's
- 26:12brilliant. I have my my mum and my dad who
- 26:15are there 24/7. They they allow me to take the
- 26:19opportunities to do the work that I do.
- 26:21In sports. And you just love sport, don't
- 26:23you? And.
- 26:24That's the thing. And I've got this massive, you
- 26:27know, they say it takes a village to raise a child.
- 26:29It it takes a village to support a disabled person.
- 26:32And if you haven't got that support, you can't, you can't.
- 26:35And I think especially in the last sort of like 18 months to
- 26:39two years, it's been the rhetoric around being disabled
- 26:42that's been kind of peddled. It's difficult and it's
- 26:45difficult to hear as a disabled person.
- 26:47And I think for me, I'm like, I feel that responsibility because
- 26:53I think I want to change people's perceptions.
- 26:57I don't want this to be people's possession.
- 26:58But also I want to respect that there are disabled people who it
- 27:03is hard to do what I do. They just physically can't do it
- 27:06and they need the support. So that's why I always say I can
- 27:09do what I do because of the support I have 24/7 from and my
- 27:16family and my friends as well. I mean, like if I start getting
- 27:19a bit too sit at home, my friends will go right, come on,
- 27:22we're going out to the pub, we're having a drink.
- 27:24Or my one of my friends who does actually pay hockey for, for
- 27:27Peterborough. He he will call me every time
- 27:32there's a quiz on at the hockey club because he wants me for my
- 27:37knowledge. He'll go like I need you because
- 27:40we're only going to win if you're in my team.
- 27:44You spoke there, Jemma, about obviously whether it's the media
- 27:48or just generally the world talking about disabilities, talk
- 27:51about inclusion, which is great, which you should be.
- 27:54But do you think that from what you're saying that do you think
- 27:56that with that also becomes a situation where people either
- 28:00misunderstand the message, misinterpret it, dilute it and
- 28:03therefore you say like say the wrong impression then starts to
- 28:06maybe cascade as? Well, yeah, I mean, I think for
- 28:08me, not within sport, but the biggest thing is the Motability
- 28:12thing that's going on at the minute that we all of a sudden
- 28:15get free cars and I'm like, my car isn't free.
- 28:17I do have a Motability car, you know, because I have that car, I
- 28:20can go and represent the country.
- 28:21I can go and have my job and everything.
- 28:24And but that rhetoric of we are given a car to help us live
- 28:28independent lives, the they are adapted.
- 28:30So there were a lot of adaptations to my car.
- 28:33I won't go into, it's too technical.
- 28:34But without that car, where would I be stuck at home?
- 28:37I wouldn't, again, like I've said, the support system, but
- 28:40this rhetoric of you get free cars, why is every disabled
- 28:43person driving around in a I'm not driving around in a BMW, I'm
- 28:46driving around in a Honda. Yeah, you get the car as a
- 28:49disabled person that sits in suits you need.
- 28:51So if you're driving an Audi, maybe it's because you need the
- 28:54space that that Audi gives. You know, I'm, I'm a master,
- 28:57like tessellator. I was awful at maths at school,
- 28:59but I love tessellation. I think it was because you got
- 29:01to colour in shapes. That was like didn't feel like
- 29:03matter to me. So I can squeeze wheelchairs and
- 29:06number of wheelchairs into a very small space if I need to.
- 29:09So I don't go, I don't, I, I know I can survive without this
- 29:13huge car. But there are, there are some
- 29:15people who can't, you know, they have hoists to help lift.
- 29:18I have Matthew, I don't have a hoist.
- 29:19I have Matthew, my other half, he's my hoist.
- 29:21But, and, and you know, they need to fit those in.
- 29:25And I think that's the thing, you know, things that are there
- 29:28to help and aid disabled people be able to achieve the way I
- 29:32have are, are currently being turned around as a negative
- 29:35thing. So going forward to your LTA
- 29:39accredited coaching that you do, you effectively coach everybody.
- 29:46It's inclusive. Again, you're not just focused
- 29:48on, say for example, wheelchair tennis, but you will also coach
- 29:53able bodied as well. Yeah, so I coach everybody from
- 29:55the age of three to adult to probably about 83.
- 30:01I love my adult group. They're brilliant because
- 30:03there's no pressure there. They're not going.
- 30:05They're they're, they're coming for their week of kind of fun.
- 30:08I love coaching my adult group. They're one of my favourite
- 30:10groups to and they'll have a laugh and, and they'll have a
- 30:13laugh because they'll know I'll start trying to challenge them.
- 30:16So I do this coordination exercise where you start with
- 30:19one ball and you're just throwing it to each other and
- 30:20you're reacting. And then I'll add in 2 balls
- 30:23and, and one of my adults said, oh, she's going to add in 4 now.
- 30:26And I went, well, now you come to think of it, you just
- 30:28mentioned it, but, and I love tennis coaching.
- 30:30I love tennis as a sport, like cheerleading.
- 30:33It's incredibly inclusive. Like I could get on court with
- 30:36my mum and I quite regularly have.
- 30:38The only rule change for me and we're playing in a wheelchair is
- 30:40that it has two bounces initially.
- 30:42I get on court with my mum and she claims that she should have
- 30:45two bounces too because she's old.
- 30:47But I'm like, no, that doesn't work like that mum.
- 30:48But you know, here in Peterborough, I coach, it's a
- 30:52young girl. She's, she's 11 years old.
- 30:56She, she took up wheelchair tennis and within six months she
- 30:59was deemed talented enough to go on the Lt. as regional age group
- 31:03program, which is the first kind of rung of the performance
- 31:07pathway to eventually becoming maybe a Paralympian in
- 31:09wheelchair tennis. I coach her like for about 5
- 31:12hours a week. She has to, you know, she has to
- 31:14miss time off school to do that. And through her, I've been able
- 31:19to see just how far wheelchair tennis has come.
- 31:21Because when I started playing, you know, I, I, I played tennis
- 31:25all my life. I played at school and, and
- 31:27everything like that. But I started playing after my
- 31:29car accident. So I was 30 to see how
- 31:33wheelchair tennis they've developing the younger side.
- 31:36So they're getting kids now younger taking it up.
- 31:39And she I'm so jealous of her because she gets national camps,
- 31:43She gets, she's going to Bolton this weekend because the LTA,
- 31:47she's one of only two girls on the programme.
- 31:49As we hear in, you know, pedestrian tennis, it's a
- 31:52struggle and, and sport in general, it's a struggle to get
- 31:55women and girls to start and stay in sport.
- 31:58And it's no different in wheelchair tennis.
- 32:00And so the LTA are launching this big programme to get more
- 32:03and more girls and women playing wheelchair tennis and it's being
- 32:06launched at Bolton and she's getting, she's getting a, she's
- 32:09getting a weekend in Bolton. She's getting to see like high
- 32:12level international competition there.
- 32:14She's she's getting to be on court.
- 32:16I'm I'm actually quite jealous of her if I'm honest.
- 32:19But again, it's about that inclusive to see here, isn't it
- 32:21as well. But despite your Estonia, sorry,
- 32:26make sure I pronounce that correctly, that you're still
- 32:29able to live a very productive life.
- 32:33Yeah, if hopefully I've said that in a way that comes.
- 32:36Across, yeah, it is productive, but it's also quite comical.
- 32:39I mean, anybody who's listening, who's a teacher knows if you've
- 32:41ever been in a room with a 5 year old comedy, comedy happens.
- 32:47Like I swear I teach this one six year old tennis and she
- 32:51should be on the stage because if she if she misses a ball,
- 32:54it's like the most dramatic thing that's ever happened.
- 32:56And I come home and I will tell my other half, Matthew about the
- 33:02comedy things that were happened.
- 33:03But the best part was, you know, this 6-7 trend that all the all
- 33:08the things are well, they're a certain age, aren't they?
- 33:12They just started secondary school and I literally there's
- 33:16this one K and he's one of my favorite to teach, but you have
- 33:20to go in quite harsh and but now we're completely respect each
- 33:25other because I told him that I was a presenter, a sports
- 33:27presenter, and he was he was like, shut up.
- 33:29No, you're not. And I just said Google me.
- 33:31And he came back the next week and went I'll miss like we're
- 33:34all good, like you're cool. I love you.
- 33:36That's brilliant. So I had the best retort.
- 33:39But you know, I love working with kids.
- 33:41I think, I think as much as I love my broadcasting and my
- 33:46competing in sport, there's just something so great.
- 33:49I've always loved. I was a teacher before I was a
- 33:51wheelchair user and I just love working with kids in any
- 33:55capacity. They're absolutely brilliant.
- 33:57They give you the best one liners.
- 33:58There's a reason why I like Greg Davis and Ramesh Ranganathan are
- 34:01now stand up comedians because they've got all their material
- 34:04from teaching. Do you know what I mean?
- 34:06But also they're they're honest as well.
- 34:08Like I do get asked questions, you know, and I think it's great
- 34:12actually, because the younger kids are special or comers and
- 34:14go, why are you in a wheelchair? And often if, if you hear that
- 34:18in the street, parents will say, don't ask, don't ask.
- 34:20I don't mind them asking it. You have to kind of temper it to
- 34:23the age of kids. So if they're on the younger
- 34:26side, I just say, oh, if I stand up, my legs turn to strawberry
- 34:29Jelly and I it's basically like if you've had it out the fridge
- 34:33for a long time, I'll just melt and and then they'll go.
- 34:37That's really weird. So I bet they go home to their
- 34:39parents saying Gemma's legs are made of strawberry Jelly.
- 34:42But it's about tempering it to, to kind of the age group.
- 34:45But for me, even after my car accident, I became disabled.
- 34:50Like some form of teaching was always going to be in in my DNA
- 34:55because I just, I just love it. I just, I just love working with
- 35:00young people. So tennis over cheerleading.
- 35:06That's a hard one. That's a hard one because I will
- 35:10say that taking part in wheelchair tennis and playing
- 35:13it, I mean, wheelchair tennis is 50 years old now and I think, I
- 35:16think it's celebrating it's 50th birthday.
- 35:18And when it they were doing all the stuff in Australia, I think
- 35:21I put a post up that's saying it's given me a career.
- 35:23Like would I have my broadcasting career if I hadn't
- 35:26played wheelchair tennis? I don't think I would.
- 35:29And it's given me a platform to speak up for disabled people.
- 35:33So, for instance, I go to a lot of conferences and speak there
- 35:36and talk about disabled people. But cheerleading is a bit of a
- 35:40throwback to my dance days. Like I originally trained in
- 35:43musical theatre. Yeah.
- 35:45When I went to do my MA in journalism, that was funny when
- 35:47everybody else was like, I've got a degree in English and da,
- 35:49da, da. And I was like, I've got a
- 35:51degree in musical theatre. That was quite funny.
- 35:54But I'm and I, you know, I had to give up that career.
- 35:59I had to give up that career when I became a wheelchair user
- 36:01because it just wasn't provision for wheelchair users backstage.
- 36:03It's got a little bit better now.
- 36:05You know, we saw the show the Little big things in the West
- 36:07End a few years ago, which I went to see and you know, it was
- 36:10a wheelchair user as a lead. That's, that's game changing,
- 36:13but there's still not 100% that. So as well as being a sport,
- 36:17cheerleading gives me the chance to perform as well and kind of,
- 36:20and also we wear epic bows like that, that it gives me a chance.
- 36:26To put. A slap on like, like put the bow
- 36:29in my hair. I mean, I think, yeah, my physio
- 36:31talked about because I have a brain injury, she'd rather I
- 36:34wore like a protective helmet on my head because obviously once
- 36:37you've had a brain injury, you really don't want.
- 36:38And I was like, no. And she was like, why?
- 36:40And I was like, because I don't get to wear the bow.
- 36:42Like, you know it. Cheerleading has a bit of it's
- 36:46sport, but it also has a bit of a throwback to my performer
- 36:49days. So tennis over cheerleading
- 36:51right now. No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 36:53I think they're both equal. I think they're both equal.
- 36:55I think, I think they are both equal because they're all, they
- 36:58all give me something quite different.
- 37:01Yeah. OK, brilliant stuff, right?
- 37:04Gemma is also a journalist, sports journalist if you've not
- 37:07established that this evening, and she also covers the Posh
- 37:11Women's side who are absolutely flying at the top of their
- 37:15National League Division One Midlands currently.
- 37:17So we're just going to take a short break and we're just going
- 37:19to touch on the Posh Women for the last few minutes of this
- 37:22show. You're listening to PCR sports.
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- 37:54missed any part of the show this evening so far, we've got with
- 37:58us Gemma Stevenson. She is, and this is her words,
- 38:01not mine, ICU world champion, athlete, journalist, presenter
- 38:05and also at Young Ambassador for the Dystonia UK.
- 38:08And we've been discussing broadly but mainly about the
- 38:13inclusion of disabled people in the sport of cheerleading and
- 38:17she's brought in with her this evening.
- 38:19Her 2019 World's Medal is that. Yes, it is.
- 38:23Yeah. And that's taking place again
- 38:25this year in Florida. In Florida, in Disneyland and.
- 38:30You love a little bit Disneyland.
- 38:33When's that taking place? Then so it takes place at the
- 38:37end of April. OK, sure.
- 38:38So we have to go out sort of the middle of April.
- 38:40OK. I think that's the important
- 38:42thing. It's all self funded as well.
- 38:44So it's not, we're not supported by Sport England as athletes or
- 38:47as or even as as cheer for everyone as a charity.
- 38:52So I would say if there are any businesses out there listening
- 38:55or any people who would potentially like to sponsor,
- 38:58even if it's just like £5, if they go to paracheer.org and
- 39:03click on donate, you can either set up a regular donation or you
- 39:06can do a one off. Basically, because the
- 39:09championships take part on Disney property, even though
- 39:13we're only showcasing and there's no prize money, we have
- 39:16to pay an entrance fee which for all the athletes taking part is
- 39:206000 lbs. So that's Parrot's aim, to try
- 39:23and get that £6000 to cover our entry fee to the World
- 39:28Championships. Brilliant.
- 39:29Different chairman. I didn't talk about power cheer.
- 39:31I know we're going to there. She wants to move on to Peter
- 39:33United Women in a minute, but what are the rules of para cheer
- 39:37and cheerleading General that what how does a competition
- 39:39work? And and also if if there's any
- 39:40listeners out there who are interested in para cheer, how do
- 39:42they get involved? So, yeah, so basically in para
- 39:46cheer, anything goes at the minute because we're learning
- 39:48about the adaptations that are needed to have kind of
- 39:50Paralympic eligible athletes and only Paralympic eligible
- 39:53athletes on on the floor really on the mat.
- 39:56So anything goes right now as long as it's not an illegal
- 39:59stunt in. Standard cheerleading, so you
- 40:02have illegal stunts in standard cheerleading, you've also must
- 40:05always have the back spot in a certain position.
- 40:07They're mostly to do with safety.
- 40:08So nobody dies, you know, because we wouldn't want that.
- 40:12But if you do want to get involved in para cheer in
- 40:14particular, well, if you want to get involved in cheerleading,
- 40:17whether that there are so there are All Star teams in
- 40:19Peterborough who you can go and and and kind of ring up.
- 40:24But para cheer in particular. I do know that after we've done
- 40:26this showcase at World Cheer for everyone are organising some
- 40:31development days where people can come and have a go at it
- 40:35across the country. So they may do one in Newmarket,
- 40:38I don't know yet, but one of our training venues is in Newmarket,
- 40:41so watch out for those. And yeah, I mean within a lot of
- 40:45All Star programs now they have adaptive abilities teams as
- 40:49well. So you, I, you may find that you
- 40:51find a local 1 where you can go and do adaptive abilities cheer
- 40:54to start yourself off. But really just go down to a
- 40:57cheer gym and ask the sport of cheerleading over the last for
- 41:01years because of the work that Rick has been doing has become
- 41:04so much more open to disabled people and neurodivergent people
- 41:08that I you'd find a home somewhere.
- 41:10Yeah, and para cheer.org is the website.
- 41:13Yes, Para cheer they've. Got a Facebook page as well.
- 41:15Yes they have. So the Facebook page I think is
- 41:17renamed cheer for everyone and they also have an Instagram if
- 41:21you're on the gram as well. Brilliant stuff, right?
- 41:24Let's we've got just a couple of minutes, but Peterbury United
- 41:27Women absolutely flying at the top of Division One Midlands and
- 41:32you speak to them quite regularly, but when you cover
- 41:35them. Yeah, generally most most weeks,
- 41:38I think the one thing they've done which makes and I'm a
- 41:40frustrated Newcastle United fan in in the men's game, I'm a very
- 41:43frustrated Newcastle United fan. And I now sit there and go, why
- 41:46can't Newcastle United do what Porsche women did?
- 41:48And I think what the difference has been this season.
- 41:50I mean, they, they just, they missed out last season and it
- 41:54was because of a, I'll say a dodgy November where results
- 41:58where they should have won, They didn't.
- 42:00And what's been so impressive about this season is Jake Paul,
- 42:03who's the manager went away, said what do we need?
- 42:06What do we need to add to this squad to make it so that we can
- 42:10get promoted to Tier 3? Because they are a good side,
- 42:14they are a good side and they had a good team before.
- 42:16But what, what, what holes are missing?
- 42:19And he filled them perfectly. But there is one woman I want to
- 42:22big up in this Posh side, right? She's called Neve Corrie, she's
- 42:25the keeper, right? Posh women currently have a goal
- 42:27difference of 46. 9 clean sheets this season.
- 42:30Yes, 9 like. 14 games. Yeah, she is incredible between
- 42:37the sticks like and she even in a in a Derby, in Derby day, she
- 42:41kind of held a call and she just did not let a ball past her like
- 42:45she is. She is one of the star players
- 42:47of that team. Derby day was Wednesday.
- 42:49Yeah Posh beat Northampton. Any win over in Northampton side
- 42:53is a good one so well done. To but they've got double
- 42:56bragging rights now because they've won both Derby head to
- 42:58heads this season let's. See what the men can do because
- 43:00the Posh men's side are at Northampton a week on Saturdays
- 43:05in a 12/30 kick. But no Posh women are flying
- 43:08unbeaten in 1413 wins, one draw, 54 goals, 9 clean sheets, one
- 43:13point clear at the top. Boldemir St.
- 43:15Michael are in second. They've got eight games to go,
- 43:18but they do have two games in hand over Boldemir, as you say,
- 43:22beat Northampton three nil, but they had do have this showcase
- 43:25game coming up at London Road, the the men's stadium on the.
- 43:28Yes, on the 8th of March they'll be playing Worcester City.
- 43:32They have played at London Road before, but it was a long time
- 43:35ago, not a long time ago, but quite a fair bit ago.
- 43:38So this is a this is a chance for this posh team to showcase
- 43:41what they can do, what I want. I'm not asking much Posh women.
- 43:44I want a Kira Ray hat trick within 5 minutes because she did
- 43:48one of the one of the matches at the start of the season.
- 43:52Kira Ray comes on, she makes the debut hat trick in 5 minutes.
- 43:56It was incredible. And I want a Renee Bennett spot
- 44:00kick. People who listen to me
- 44:01broadcasting on the radio know that I always say I have so much
- 44:04love for Renee Bennett. If I needed somebody to take a
- 44:06spot kick and my life depended on it, it would be her like.
- 44:11And if any posh women's fans are watching, they'll go.
- 44:13You always say that, but no ever.
- 44:14Dependable. Yeah, she's, she's so
- 44:16dependable. And I just want a clean sheet
- 44:18from Neeve Corrie as well. Do you know, I'm not asking, not
- 44:20asking for much, not much. But there's, you know, there's
- 44:22some pretty big matches. I mean, we could end up knowing
- 44:25by the end of March whether they're automatically promoted
- 44:28or not. But there's a couple of big
- 44:29tasty head to heads. They're all away.
- 44:31So you can't go and watch them, you know, pimps park or at
- 44:34London Road. But do the travel if you if you
- 44:36can, because they've. Got Boldemir St.
- 44:38Michael away. Yeah, they've got Boldemir St.
- 44:40Michael away on the 22nd of March and this weekend they've
- 44:43got Lee Fields Athletic. Now, they ran out two NIL
- 44:46winners the last time they played Lee Field, so that was
- 44:49that was one of Neve's clean sheets, so let's see if it can
- 44:52happen again this weekend. Cool, so posh women.
- 44:55They're going to be playing at London Road against Worcester
- 44:58City on the 8th of March. Sunday the 8th of March at
- 45:03London Road and tickets are available from theposh.com
- 45:06website. Gemma, hours flown past.
- 45:10Thank you very much for your time this evening talking all
- 45:12about para cheer and the inclusion of disabled people,
- 45:16not just in cheerleading but in sport generally as well.
- 45:19And I think it's important that we do discuss those subjects and
- 45:23topics openly and make sure sport is accessible for all and
- 45:27not just for the minority. Wonderful Gemma, thank you have
- 45:31a good weekend. Thank you.
- 45:33Pleasure as always. Just a final note, just been
- 45:36looking at social media and Fairy Meadows Park run is
- 45:38actually cancelled tomorrow as well.
- 45:39Fairy Meadows is still flooded. So that's two weeks on the trot.
- 45:42So if you are looking to a park run, look for an alternative one
- 45:45away from Fairy Meadows tomorrow.
- 45:47But thank you once again for your time this evening and next
- 45:51Friday's show. We're going to be talking to
- 45:52Alex Green, England Under 19 cricketer who was recently at
- 45:57the Under 19 World Cup playing for England and played in the
- 46:01final as well that reach. So we look forward to catching
- 46:04up with him next week. But enjoy your sporting weekend,
- 46:07whatever you're up to. We do hope it's a successful,
- 46:09enjoyable and have a great weekend.
- 46:12Take care.