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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:02Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:07I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, and while I often portray myself as an expert
- 0:12in hydroponics, one area I don't claim to be an expert in is microgreens.
- 0:18And I've been playing around with microgreens this year and learning a lot of interesting things.
- 0:23And so today's episode is about one of the key things I've learned about growing microgreens.
- 0:27I said yesterday the title of this episode could be
- 0:30hello darkness my old friend as simon
- 0:34and garfunkel sang hello darkness my old friend i
- 0:37come to talk with you again because a vision softly
- 0:40creeping left its seeds while i
- 0:43was sleeping or an even
- 0:46better summary would be bane
- 0:49from the batman movies oh you think
- 0:52darkness is your ally you merely adopted the dark
- 0:55i was born in it molded by it i
- 0:59didn't see the light until i was already a man by
- 1:02then it was nothing to me but blinding and that's
- 1:05because i've learned as the quotes say
- 1:08there i've learned to love the darkness when it comes
- 1:11to don't worry i'm not going to do a darkness quote there from
- 1:14the band the darkness I've learned to love the darkness
- 1:17when it grows microgreens as a plant physiologist
- 1:20I'm often scared of putting plants in the dark because
- 1:24I think they're going to die or get pests and disease often.
- 1:26Plants get aphids and things like this fungal diseases
- 1:29when you keep them in the dark or too dark even etiolated
- 1:34crops like rhubarb and asparagus I've struggled
- 1:37with but with microgreens you not
- 1:40only have to love the darkness you really have to embrace it
- 1:44and use it and not be scared of it and that's because
- 1:47you just don't get any crop unless for the
- 1:49vast vast majority of microgreens and also the crops
- 1:52rubbish if you don't use darkness so
- 1:56you put your seeds on your microgreen trays and then you put them in the dark
- 2:01for what seems like a stupidly long time like up to a week or 10 days or even
- 2:07longer and this allows them to go really long and leggy the sort of thing you
- 2:14would never want your ceilings to do normally.
- 2:16And that's because if you didn't do that and you
- 2:19just put your microgreens into the light they would
- 2:22be really really short and you'd struggle
- 2:25to harvest them and then when you tried to sell them or use them
- 2:28people would look at them and go what are they where and especially
- 2:30for things like basil you almost impossible to
- 2:33to harvest it even when you're just growing on a piece of paper and
- 2:37if you're growing on cocoa or compost you're just going to get loads
- 2:40of cocoa and compost in your harvest and
- 2:44that's a bad from it.
- 2:46Looks bad and also you there's a contamination issue there so you
- 2:49actually makes it look like you've got more biomass even if
- 2:52you haven't if you keep them in the dark they go really long
- 2:56and then you can harvest them easier and also
- 2:59the key thing here is they're sweeter as well
- 3:01so if you think about like pop golden popcorn they
- 3:05that doesn't even have any light when you're
- 3:08growing it as microgreens you you sow it in the dark you grow
- 3:11it in the dark it doesn't go anywhere near the light it goes to the light it becomes
- 3:14green and the chlorophyll makes it taste disgusting
- 3:18and that's because all that
- 3:21starch and the oils in the seeds are converted
- 3:24to lovely sugars in the etiolated seedlings
- 3:27the long leggy seedlings and so the taste
- 3:31is really improved by growing it in the dark even things like wheatgrass onions
- 3:35things like this mustard all whole host of
- 3:38different crops even pea shoots should be
- 3:41grown in the dark and i've always struggled i put them in the dark for maybe one
- 3:44or two days and then my crop hasn't been very good so now
- 3:47but then i've noticed something as well i noticed that when i throw seedlings
- 3:52into a compost bin or into my wormery they survive for weeks and weeks and weeks
- 3:59as these once they've germinated in there without me lifting the lid on the
- 4:04wormery or the compost bin.
- 4:06And they can just sit there in stasis. And so I was always worried that they're
- 4:09just going to use up all their energy and then just keel over and die.
- 4:13But that doesn't happen. They just get to the tallest they can be.
- 4:17And as long as they've got a bit of moisture and they're not going to get gray
- 4:21mold or anything like that, they'll just stay there.
- 4:23And so you don't need to worry about them dying.
- 4:27Or I know you might lose a day or two of production, but
- 4:30you'll soon come to realize what's the maximum number of days that gets you
- 4:34the most amount of growth and so i started to try and embrace this and see how
- 4:41far i can push it see how far how tall i can get my microgreens and so i'm doing
- 4:47experiments as i said basil mustard.
- 4:51Watercress pea shoots and spring
- 4:54onions because obviously we're doing a load of spring onion trials and i
- 4:57think this technique as well as being really good for
- 5:00microgreens could also help me produce really long
- 5:03spring onions that have got a really long white what's the
- 5:07word for it neck shoulder basically the the
- 5:10white bit which is really good you'll notice when you've you've
- 5:13gone to you you buy nice food because the spring
- 5:15onions you get the white bits of the spring onions whereas if you get like a
- 5:18pot noodle like a yeah pot
- 5:21noodle or an itzu noodle or something like that often you
- 5:24get all the green bits of the spring onions and they don't taste as good
- 5:27they don't taste as sweet do they if you're going to eat a
- 5:30spring onion you're not going to eat the green bit on the end you can meet the white bit
- 5:32at the bottom so i'm going to help hopefully the darkness will
- 5:35help me produce that so i mean i'm embracing my
- 5:38inner bane obviously if you've met me you know i'm a
- 5:41muscly hunk that looks just like bane
- 5:44i mean i'm often described being a spitting image
- 5:47of or tom hardy's lost cousin lost
- 5:51brother lost twin me and tom hardy basically look
- 5:53exactly the same i've got a bit more muscles so why
- 5:56not embrace my inner bane if you've actually met
- 5:59me you'll know i'm probably more like garfunkel out.
- 6:03Of simon garfunkel with a massive six
- 6:06head so maybe maybe it is right hello darkness
- 6:09my old friend is more more appropriate for me than
- 6:12a bane quote but yes i will be embracing
- 6:15the darkness i'll let you know how i get on but yeah
- 6:18i've really i really enjoy growing microgreens and as we
- 6:20go into winter i think they'll help me and my family and my colleagues stay
- 6:24healthy if you meet me in the next six months i'll probably be giving you a
- 6:31free sample of microgreens that i've been growing in the lab in the grow room
- 6:34i used to do this was with asabi anyone who met me for i think what year was that,
- 6:40I think 2019, if you went for a meeting and we sat down, I would have brought a wasabi plant with me.
- 6:46And it's a good way of advertising these little stickers that said grown with
- 6:50liquid gold or grown with gold leaf in the US.
- 6:53And so a good way of advertising what the product can do, the fact that it can
- 6:57grow really high value products like wasabi.
- 7:00And microgreens. If you've got any suggestions on microgreens I should be growing, let me know.
- 7:04I've got lots and lots of room for growing microgreens because they don't need lights.
- 7:08So that's the beauty of it. you only need lights for a couple of days so that's
- 7:11the beauty of microgreens the disadvantage of microgreens is that if you start up
- 7:14a business growing microgreens it becomes a bit of a chore lots
- 7:17of man hours lots of processes and things like this and planning and spreadsheets
- 7:22which i don't like so i'm not going to put it into a business anytime soon as
- 7:26i said yesterday running a giveaway if you review this podcast on apple podcasts
- 7:31and then send me a screenshot of the Apple Podcasts,
- 7:35has to be Apple Podcasts, not any other podcast provider,
- 7:38I'll send you a free gift in the post.
- 7:40If you're in the UK, I'll send it immediately. And if you're abroad,
- 7:43I'll send it you next time I'm in your country.
- 7:46Nobody's done this yet. So maybe nobody can be bothered.
- 7:50Maybe nobody's listening and I'm talking into the void.
- 7:53Or maybe you're all just too rich and you're all happy to just buy product and
- 7:57or don't care about the products and you hate all my products.
- 8:01Either way that's cool but yeah if you do want free products you know dechlorinator.
- 8:06Sticky fingers what else did i say humic and fulvic acid all
- 8:10sorts of products and let me know what you you'd like and i'll try and sort
- 8:14that for you but yeah all you have to do is screenshot an apple podcast review
- 8:18don't have to enter competition there's no limits at the moment might be if
- 8:22it's really popular but at the moment it doesn't look like it's going to get
- 8:23really popular so yeah if you if you want happy to give away free samples to
- 8:28all my lovely listeners and And that way,
- 8:30the aim of that is to get up the Apple podcast charts,
- 8:33to get hydroponics noticed by more people by being at the top of the charts
- 8:37and beating these boring gardeners,
- 8:40driveling on, providing no value, or even like,
- 8:43you know, people doing DIY and stuff like that.
- 8:46So, and celebrity podcasts. If we can beat the celebrity podcasts that are only
- 8:50at the top of the charts because they've got a famous name behind them,
- 8:52that would be Fan Dabby Dozy.
- 8:54So that's been Hydroponics Daily for today. how I'm learning to not avoid the
- 8:59dark and push my microgreens as far as I can in the dark before I introduce them to the light.
- 9:05Thank you very much for listening. Until tomorrow, goodbye.