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Heat damaged plants [09.12.2026] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening
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  Speaker 1: show where we talk about gardening, horticulture, landscaping, and more.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, we'll discuss anything that has to do with
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  Speaker 1: growing plants and keeping your yard in tip-top shape. Now,
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  Speaker 1: here are your hosts, Brian Mayne, John Bagnasco, and Tiger
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  Speaker 1: Palafox on the Garden America radio and media network.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there you are. Welcome once again to Garden America.
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  Speaker 2: I look into the camera, I can say there you
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  Speaker 2: are because we have Facebook Live. I can say there
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. It is Garden America. Once again,
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  Speaker 2: broadcasting live from San Diego, the pool house at Tiger's house,
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  Speaker 2: John in San Diego, California. John Bagnasco, Tiger Palafox. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Brian Mayne. Hope you had a good week. Welcome to
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. Hopefully we get you off to a good start.
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  Speaker 2: You had mentioned beforehand that you wanted to talk gardening, Tiger. Yes, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that would be a good change of our
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  Speaker 3: show today.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll dedicate at least one segment to gardening.
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  Speaker 3: Good enough.
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  Speaker 2: And John, you wanted to talk about the distance between
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  Speaker 2: Earth and sun and light and the speed of sound.
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  Speaker 2: We'll dedicate a segment for that as well.
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  Speaker 3: You know how that has to do with gardening?
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  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes we stage the studio here. And, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we'll put plants for people to look at it. I
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  Speaker 4: just noticed Tiger's got two donuts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's donut day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, John, you brought those. Thank you. At the urging
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  Speaker 2: of Shannon.
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  Speaker 3: Donut pantry up there in Fallbrook. If you're looking for
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  Speaker 3: a donut place in Fallbrook.
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  Speaker 2: In Fallbrook, yeah. We highly recommend. And what was that
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  Speaker 2: ding for? Anything we need to know about?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it was probably a ding to remind me to
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  Speaker 4: turn down the voice, which I just did. But the
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  Speaker 4: message that came across said, You're making a huge mistake
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  Speaker 4: by continuing to ignore us.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, was that a text? Yeah. Yeah. I get weird
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  Speaker 2: things like that.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, who wrote that? I got one.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday that says, where have you been? I've been waiting
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, goodness.
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  Speaker 2: And I just go, spam, delete.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sneak up on you.
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  Speaker 4: Does Dana get mad when you continue to delete those?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? What she doesn't know won't hurt her.
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  Speaker 2: anyway um was it hot last i was gonna say
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  Speaker 2: here we go oh my gosh let's.
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  Speaker 3: Get it out of the way the heat right and
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  Speaker 3: and how it just simply like melted plants it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: a matter of like we're talking about it wasn't a
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  Speaker 3: matter of you didn't water it wasn't a matter of
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  Speaker 3: the wrong plant in the wrong spot it was just
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  Speaker 3: so hot that plants just Melted in the heat.
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  Speaker 2: They gave up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I had a couple of plants outside that were waving
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  Speaker 2: white flags.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm sorry. Nothing I can do. And
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  Speaker 2: then I'm never watering enough. But like you said, it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the ground's wet. The water is there. It's
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  Speaker 3: not a matter of that. It's just so hot that
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  Speaker 3: the plants were struggling.
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  Speaker 2: I mean- Helpless, very helpless feeling.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the one plant that always amazes me during
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  Speaker 3: this time of year- is Cecil Pena, Mexican bird of paradise.
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  Speaker 3: Because that could be along a freeway in Arizona. And
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  Speaker 3: it looks like it's the happiest, just thriving.
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  Speaker 4: The hotter the better.
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  Speaker 3: The thriving plant. Beautiful, bright orange and red and yellow flowers.
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  Speaker 2: 110 degrees.
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  Speaker 3: Just thriving. And I'm like, wow, that is a plant.
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  Speaker 3: That is a tough plant right there.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Tough old son of a gun, right? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But there's two species. There's the Mexicana and there's the Pulquerima.
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  Speaker 4: And Pulquerima is the one you're describing. That's the one
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  Speaker 4: I like.
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  Speaker 3: In the desert, just like.
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  Speaker 4: The orange. The other one's the yellow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You know, which to me, maybe it's because of the
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  Speaker 4: way I see colors. But it looks bland to me.
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  Speaker 3: No, I definitely agree. Like the red and the orange
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  Speaker 3: and the yellow one. That one. Oh, man. Yeah. You
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  Speaker 3: see that just, and you see it just like I say,
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  Speaker 3: like the side of a road, no water to it,
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  Speaker 3: 110 degrees. No attention.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's taking care of it.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's taking care of it. That's what you want.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what pulchrama means in Latin? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I love the heat.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's not correct, Brian. What? It means more beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Really? Well.
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  Speaker 4: So it's actually the more beautiful is. Cecil Pena.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that the same? I love the heat more.
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  Speaker 3: No? No.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Not the same.
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  Speaker 2: I can't get away with that one. So what's the
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  Speaker 2: closest one around here?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Where would you have to drive to see one?
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  Speaker 3: You can go. You have them here in San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: You can see them around. People plant them. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of people in the East County, San Diego will plant them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's perfect weather.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Did you ever drive by my old house in the
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  Speaker 4: last year or two? No.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry. No, sorry, John.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't on.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go drive around John's old house.
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  Speaker 4: Tiger's in Fallbrook.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But he's not a stalker.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's my old house. I'm not there anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the people that moved in?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you just looked at the landscape, you would
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  Speaker 4: be shocked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They let it go.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, virtually everything is dead.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you buy a place like that?
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going somewhere with this, Brian. Where I'm going is
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  Speaker 4: out front on the road looking beautiful is that Mexican
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  Speaker 4: bird of paradise.
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  Speaker 3: You planted it? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. But everything else is dead.
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  Speaker 2: But if you buy a house, like you bought this
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  Speaker 2: house and you saw the backyard, you said, oh, this
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  Speaker 2: is my own little nursery.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So if I'm going to buy John's old house, I
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  Speaker 2: look at everything he's done. I see that landscaping is
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  Speaker 2: probably key. It's probably one of the selling points. And
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  Speaker 2: if you don't think you can keep up with it,
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  Speaker 2: don't buy it. That makes me sad.
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  Speaker 3: I think people look at the house more than the yard.
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  Speaker 2: But look at that yard, though.
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  Speaker 4: I think that when I sold the house, I was
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  Speaker 4: able to sell it because of the landscape. The people
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  Speaker 4: bought it because of that. And they only lived there
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  Speaker 4: for a year. And then they sold it. And they
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  Speaker 4: sold it for, I think about, 50,000 less than they
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  Speaker 4: bought it for.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: They took a hit, huh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously the person who bought it from them didn't
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  Speaker 4: care about the landscape.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. See, that's a shame.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, cooler weather in sight.
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  Speaker 3: Today?
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  Speaker 4: This week.
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  Speaker 3: This week.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all this week is under 90s for us, which
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  Speaker 4: is good. And you're probably back in the 70s, Tiger?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I hope so.
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  Speaker 3: A little overcast right now.
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  Speaker 4: And cooler nighttime temperatures too.
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  Speaker 3: Which is.
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  Speaker 4: Really unusual for us that we had in Fallbrook, we
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  Speaker 4: had no nighttime temperatures under 72, 73.
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  Speaker 3: I was at a customer's house yesterday doing like a
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  Speaker 3: consultation and he had asked me, he's like, why am
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  Speaker 3: I not successful with my tomatoes? And, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: we started talking more.
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  Speaker 2: This year?
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  Speaker 3: Well, just in general. Okay. And I go, I think
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  Speaker 3: that you're kind of, you're being taken advantage of by,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this idea that tomatoes can grow any time
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  Speaker 3: of the year. I go, you know, if you go
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  Speaker 3: to a store and you buy a tomato in January...
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to grow. We've talked about this before,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on the show, why they don't grow and
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  Speaker 3: why they don't produce and stuff. And then I go, also,
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  Speaker 3: if you buy, if you plant one after, you know,
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  Speaker 3: May or June, again, you're not going to be successful.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, if you planted it at
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  Speaker 3: the right time, because it was Del Mar. So I'm like, you're,
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  Speaker 3: you live in a great area to grow tomatoes. Like
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  Speaker 3: this is not a, I think you're planting them at
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  Speaker 3: the wrong time and then you're failing. But I go,
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  Speaker 3: you have to plant it come like March, April, And
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  Speaker 3: if you wanted to grow something again, then again, like
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  Speaker 3: you look for a variety, you know, we'd like, we've
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  Speaker 3: talked about like the, you know, the Alaskans and Russian and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, anything that sounds cold varieties and you plant
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  Speaker 3: them kind of now getting ready for, for that time
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  Speaker 3: of year. And it just blew his mind that cause
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  Speaker 3: he thought like, yeah, just tomatoes year round. I could
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  Speaker 3: just do it whenever and stuff. And even though our
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  Speaker 3: weather is, mild across the board you still have to
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  Speaker 3: stick to i think.
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  Speaker 2: You could have been a little easier on him though
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  Speaker 2: when he said that you should have slapped him well
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't have said who told you that what who
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  Speaker 2: told you that you have no business growing anything.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of the coastal communities though uh more so
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  Speaker 4: in northern california but even here have trouble growing uh
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  Speaker 4: the large beefsteak type tomatoes if it doesn't get warm
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  Speaker 4: enough to ripen the tomatoes.
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  Speaker 3: They just grow, and then they just stay and then
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  Speaker 3: fall off.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's why in San Francisco, fog, the tomato called that,
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  Speaker 4: is so popular up north because it'll produce on the coast.
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  Speaker 4: But it tastes terrible. You might as well go to
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  Speaker 4: the store and buy one.
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  Speaker 2: Was there a cold season tomato called Arctic char?
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  Speaker 3: Arctic char?
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  Speaker 2: Where am I getting that name from somewhere? We talked
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  Speaker 2: about Stupichka. We talked about.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Arctic char.
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  Speaker 3: Arctic.
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  Speaker 2: Arctic char.
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  Speaker 4: Arctic tomatoes, but not char.
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  Speaker 3: Arctic char. What am I thinking? What is the char?
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  Speaker 4: Cherokee.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking Cherokee.
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  Speaker 4: Charo. You're thinking of Charo.
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  Speaker 2: Gucci Gucci?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Gucci Gucci.
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  Speaker 3: Is she still alive? I think so. Really?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, who is she married to?
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go.
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  Speaker 4: Got me there. Wait a second.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint.
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  Speaker 3: Was she or is she?
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  Speaker 2: No, he died.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it was one of those big, big, huge
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  Speaker 2: age gaps. Between the two.
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  Speaker 3: He was older?
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  Speaker 2: He was a band leader. He was much older.
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  Speaker 4: Band leader. Tommy Dorsey.
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  Speaker 2: Xavier Cugat.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: I got my Xavier Cugat reference in.
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  Speaker 4: Now, do you say Xavier?
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  Speaker 3: Check the box.
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  Speaker 4: Do you say Xavier?
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  Speaker 3: Or what?
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  Speaker 2: Or just Xavier?
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  Speaker 4: Or just Xavier.
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  Speaker 2: You know, whatever they want to be called.
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  Speaker 4: What do you say, Tiger?
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  Speaker 3: Xavier.
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  Speaker 2: I say Xavier.
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  Speaker 3: If you're going to put a letter in there, I
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  Speaker 3: want to use it. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: There's enough silent letters.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you can't speak French.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: There's enough silent letters in the English language.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, we're going to take a break. All right.
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  Speaker 2: It's our first break. We're so excited about this break.
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  Speaker 2: Those on BizTalk Radio. Thank you to Fertilone supporting the
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  Speaker 2: show throughout the many years and, of course, this year, 2026.
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  Speaker 2: So with that in mind, whatever's happening, keep it tuned
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  Speaker 2: right here. BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live, it's Garden America. Back
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  Speaker 2: after these messages, thank you for joining us on this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John,
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  Speaker 5: and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we've jumped right back into the saddle. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for tuning in this morning as we look at
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  Speaker 2: our iPhones and all the people that are tuned in
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook Live. We do appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of people have a lot of
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  Speaker 3: things to say about this time of year because we're
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  Speaker 3: getting into the time of year where... you you were
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  Speaker 3: excited for the fall to come yes because it's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a change from the summer weather and
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  Speaker 3: we're getting you know fall is that fall is that
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  Speaker 3: short window of time where you get to do a
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  Speaker 3: little more gardening before the winter comes for most people
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  Speaker 3: you know some people you know you know because like
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  Speaker 3: in the spring you kind of are spring into summer
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  Speaker 3: and you know the summer's not great to garden but
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  Speaker 3: at the same time things don't just die.
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  Speaker 2: What about what about autumn The misunderstood time of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that fall? Isn't autumn and fall the same thing?
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  Speaker 3: Autumn and fall? Yeah, it's a different word. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely different words.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely different words.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same season.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like that. I thought autumn was like a
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  Speaker 2: little door to fall.
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  Speaker 3: Who says autumn? We were talking about how language is regional. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So there's got to be some place- In the United
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  Speaker 3: States that they refer to fall as autumn.
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  Speaker 2: And what's the origin of autumn? I know when I
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  Speaker 2: was in grade school, there was a girl named Autumn.
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  Speaker 3: I had a girl named Autumn in my class too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
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  Speaker 4: Like Autumn.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but yeah, that's funny.
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  Speaker 2: So what is the background of autumn, John?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but you know, they have the spring
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  Speaker 4: and fall for spring forward, fall.
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  Speaker 3: Back for time. That's nothing to do with what we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about.
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  Speaker 4: That does their seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Is there another word for spring?
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  Speaker 2: I want to know autumn, because Target brings up a
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  Speaker 2: good point.
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  Speaker 3: Is there another word for winter or summer? Is fall
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  Speaker 3: the only one that has two words?
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  Speaker 4: And why is winter masculine?
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, old man winter, right? And then mother nature.
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  Speaker 3: Old man winter.
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  Speaker 2: And mother nature.
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  Speaker 3: Is spring feminine?
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget father time.
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  Speaker 4: Or Mother Hubbard.
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  Speaker 2: Did she really go to the cupboard? That's what I
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  Speaker 2: want to know.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: She never had a dog either. So we can put
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  Speaker 2: that to rest.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, the quote of the week. I was thinking about
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  Speaker 4: this because I wrote an article this week for the newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I liked your article about over 100. It was called
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  Speaker 2: When 106 Degrees Comes to the Gardens. That was, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think because we were living it, that it had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of impact.
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  Speaker 4: And we talked about it a little bit before the show.
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  Speaker 4: What do you do? Basically, just wait, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because.
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  Speaker 4: Water at night. You don't know how plants are going
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  Speaker 4: to rebound. I had a plant, and we were both
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  Speaker 4: talking about plants on the ground, leaves are burned, no
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  Speaker 4: matter what you did. They were watered. It was just
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  Speaker 4: like a blast furnace on them for two days.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 4: the basic uh advice would be just wait see what
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  Speaker 4: happens with the weather cooling off and then after i
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  Speaker 4: would say it could be three to four weeks after
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  Speaker 4: three to four weeks you can assess the damage and
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  Speaker 4: see what really is dead and then cut off like
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  Speaker 4: if you've got dead twigs or dead parts of the plant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you'd be shocked right what comes back sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah a matter of fact uh I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you guys remember the pictures, but somebody sent
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  Speaker 4: in a picture of a rose leaf. I have lots
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  Speaker 4: of rose leaves that look like that.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: And then you made the point that when a leaf
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: looks like that, it's not coming back.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: That leaf is not coming back.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. That's dead.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: But maybe the stem will come back. So the quote
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: of the week was from Brian's friend, Gertrude. Right. Gertrude Jekyll. Right. Jekyll.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Well, and that goes back to the history of Dr.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Jekyll and Mr.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: Hyde, right?
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, it does. It's one of your favorite stories. Anyway,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: she said that a garden is a grand teacher. It
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: teaches patience and careful watchfulness. It teaches industry and thrift.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: Above all, it teaches entire trust.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Entire trust.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you have to. What do you mean?
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I think, and I could be wrong, you've done everything
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: that you can do as a gardener, and then you
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: have to trust that what you've done is going to work.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: I guess you're trusting in your own ability.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: You're trusting the process.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right?
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: And your own ability.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Trusting the process, huh?
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: It's like you have to trust that God gave you
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: everything you need.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing, right?
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Now just wait and see what's going to happen.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Let's see what you do with it.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Now, read that quote again because there was another part
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: of it that I really liked. Do you have it
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: in front of you again? Sorry, I put you on
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the spot.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: He's getting good at this.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Not good. Tolerable.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Tolerable. What a word to use. Look at him. What
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a word to use for that. Tolerable.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: How many ways does your phone spin around?
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: You know what? I'm going to give it to you
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: and let you find the part that you liked.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Okay. A garden is a grand teacher. It teaches you
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: patience and careful watchfulness. It teaches industry and thrift above all.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: It teaches entire trust industry and thrift. Okay. So that's where,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: you know, we, I've, I.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Really, I think your dad taught you thrift.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but like, you know what I mean? In
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: the sense of it, it teaches you our food specifically
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: on how hard it is to get something right. Like meaning,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Meaning we live in this world today where you go
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: to a grocery store and you just buy whatever you need.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It's just there. You just grab it. You put it
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in your basket. You go home and you have it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: And kids have no idea where it came from.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: And even then, we get upset when it's more than
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: 99 cents. We're like, this is food. This is a tomato.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: This is a piece of lettuce. Why is this costing
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: this much money?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Because people don't take into consideration the effort that it took.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: To come to market. Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And that's an industry, right?
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: When you grow that plant at home, And you see
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the time and you see the care it required to
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: plant and grow and fertilize and take care of it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: And all of that, you're like, wow, that bell pepper,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that bell pepper is so valuable to me because of
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: what I put into it and what it took to grow.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And here comes the trust part. I remember, I don't
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: know when it was the first time that I ever
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: grew an edible and then harvested it, took it into
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the kitchen with myself or Dana.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: And then we were.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Going to eat it. And I'm like, I'm responsible for this.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I grew this. Should we eat this?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Do I trust myself that I did the right thing?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: And then when you eat it, you're so really proud
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: of yourself. I consumed something I grew. But again, trust, industry, trust.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But then there are some plants that really you can
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: do nothing and they're going to grow.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But still like it takes a lot, you know, and,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and it is, it is sad to me when people
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: don't understand gardening and then they, they just feel like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you know, food is just, it should just be there
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Like, like plants, you need to, well, you need.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: To grow a garden in order to really understand like
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a grocery store and the magic behind a grocery store.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the, the avocados that we just
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: go and buy. And it's like, if you've ever had
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: an avocado tree, You understand how much time and energy
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: and effort and how you could be so successful and
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: birds can come through or rats or whatever it may
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: be and just take it all from you. And that's
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: another level of patience right out there. Planting enough to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: share with everyone else because you might not get any otherwise.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And there's also guilt involved, I think.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Guilt?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: If you don't, something doesn't.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Like if something dies on you?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I feel a little guilty this week, this past week,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: even though we all said it doesn't matter what you do,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: how much you water. I could have, to be honest,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: maybe I could have watered an extra day. Would that
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: have made a difference?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Now you never know.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Could be the difference between life and death.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Well, with that in mind, we're going to take a break.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: See how this is done, Tiger.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: This is going quick.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Are you sure that time– Look at that and look
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: at that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: See if you can calibrate that stopwatch, though. I think
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: that stopwatch is running quicker than it normally does.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: And when we come back, we have a lot of questions,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: but then also Tiger, I lost the early ones, so
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you have those.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going to take a break for BizTalk Radio,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Facebook Live, Garden America, back after these messages.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And we have returned from that break. Those that are
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: watching us on Facebook Live, very quick, not much time
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: to do anything. BizTalk Radio, thank you for supporting our sponsors, Fertilum,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, back from that break. And you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: guys mentioned we have some questions and comments to get to.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: We want to address some things.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one comment that we need to get to right
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: away is that our buddy John Clements, Brian, says that
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Arctic char is a fish. I saw that too.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't say it was a plant. I just asked
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: about the name.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I can't get out of this one, can I?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. You know, I knew, John, I heard that somewhere.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Arctic char.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Could be a tomato.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Do you have Tanya's question or should I say it?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: You could go ahead and say it, the one about the.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Hosta?
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: About the funkia.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Funkia?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Is that a hosta?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Remember our discussion a few months back about how the
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: common name for hosta used to be funkia?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I forget, but okay. I thought it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Was hosta la vista.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Brian told me, make sure you enunciate properly.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: All right. Tonya, I have a hosta question. I have
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: three in pots and one in the ground. In past years,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: they've looked fantastic. I divided the ones in pots two
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: years ago and they did great. However, this year they
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: all look terrible. Only a few leaves and already lost
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: most of them. All in same locations. Is it just
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: a bad year for hostas?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I would say refer to the quote.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Next question. You know, we talked about how California's period's
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: not a good climate for hostas. You know, unless you
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: live in some of the really cold parts.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: And Tanya's in San Jose, so it's a milder area.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: And because it's cooler, she's getting them to live from
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: one season to the next. But it's like some bulbs.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: They don't have enough cold climate to rejuvenate for the
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: following year.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: So they get weaker and weaker almost every year.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: And depending on how the year goes.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: And then this year with the abnormally hot weather compared
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: to what they're used to.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: And coming out of a warm winter. Right. We did
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: not have a cold winter last winter.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: So you're thinking it's just a bad year.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking that it was a nice way to say
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: we don't know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: No, but I did think you hit it because we
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: did have an abnormally warm winter.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: And then like you're saying, we're in a abnormally warm summer.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: So hostas never got that cool retreat that, you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that recovery time. And then I hate to say it though, Tanya,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't look good for you. Meaning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Because they're not building up for the coming year.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Well, this winter doesn't plan on getting any cooler, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: so you're going to go into another cool winter.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: So I think that like, you know, what we're saying is, yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: this is, You know, hostas are one of those marginal
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: plants that we talk about sometimes that, yeah, it could
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: grow great here for five, 10 years. And then two
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: or three years of a specific season and it'll just
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: die on you.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I know nothing about this. I'll just throw it out there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Good job.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I want to establish it. So with everything we're talking about,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: is this going to be a bad year for wine?
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yes. Lots of rain, not cool. Like, yeah, I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: it would be a bad year for wine. I think
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: it'll be a bad year for a lot of crops
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because there's going to be a.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But on the bright side, aren't a lot less people
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: drinking wine than they used to?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I mean, kind of like what you're saying, Brian,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: for a lot of crops, I mean, you know, almonds, apples,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: all that stuff that kind of.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: All the ones that begin with A.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Apricots. But I mean, we're going to have this prolonged
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: rain season that's going to you know, knockoff flowers, decreased pollinization,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you know, all of this stuff that, yeah, it's going
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: to be a tough year, I think, for a lot
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: of the California orchards, you know, in that way.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Brian, we got a Charo update from Perry. She said
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: that she's still alive and she's still performing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Wow, Perry, thank you for that. Do you have a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Charo reference?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: She just got back from Alaska. What? Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They went to Alaska?
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Went to Alaska.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Did you know this beforehand?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Was that part of the song Delaware?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Delaware?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. What?
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Remember the, who sang Delaware? Was it Perry Como or
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Dean Martin?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Remember that song?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: If it was Dean Martin. It was, you know, kind
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: of a play on words. What did Delaware boys? She
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: wore a brand new jersey. And it goes through the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: different states.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm totally, you know what? You got me on
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: this one. Really?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Wow, I thought that's one you would know. I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: know music from the 30s.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: But I thought I remember.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: 40s.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I remember, where's Ora gone? She went to pay her taxes.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure somebody in the comments, just as much
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: as they jumped in.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Anyway, I thought I remembered something about Alaska being Alaska.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, play on words.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You think it's either Perry Comer or Dean Martin.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure someone.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Someone will know, just like they did with Charo.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Sue, morning, everyone. I have both Birds of Paradise trees.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Is that the comment?
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it was. She's got both.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: The red one is huge and gorgeous, just back from Alaska,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: unusually warm in September. So she has one of the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Cecil Pinias, like we talked about, the red and the orange,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: yellowish one.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That's our favorite.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: And then the yellow, which I agree. I do think
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: that the Mexicana is a more aggressive grower.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: That's the yellow one.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Mexicana.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, which one is the.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Pulquerima.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Pulquerima. I do think that one is a more.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: It's a more beautiful one.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a more aggressive grower. I've seen that plant
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: get bigger in my eyes.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: You know what else has a Pulquerima for a species?
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: It's a common Christmas plant.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Poinsettia? Yeah. Pulquerima? Poinsettia pulquerima? Yeah. Really? Okay. Okay. Let's
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: see here. Where was another one?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: So Sue said that it's hot up there in Alaska, too.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Unseasonably hot.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I believe it. All this is coming from the south.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can look this up, Brian or Tiger, but
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Veronica wants to know if the Texas Ranger is edible.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a salvia. Texas Ranger is not
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a sage from the standpoint of salvia. Um, I'll look
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: it up, but I want, I think you can answer
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: John and Bonnie's question of with this heat, would it
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: help to put some sort of shade cloth over my
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: raised bed or is it futile?
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, I'm not sure if I mentioned it
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: in the article I wrote for the newsletter, but I,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: if not, I should have.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: That's something that you can do.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Doesn't that trap the heat though?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: No, not if you use like a row cloth.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: So there's, you know, yeah. When, um, So there's some circulation.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: When my ex-partner used to have, was growing vegetables in Bonzel.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: This is before you married Shannon.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: No, this is my business partner. They would grow, they
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: were growing peppers out there. And they had to put
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: a shade cloth over the peppers in the summer to
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: keep the fruit from burning.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: So Rime is just that really light cloth.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Also has the benefit of keeping off, well, frost too,
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: but also insects, you know, like caterpillars and grasshoppers. However,
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: I think John, if I'm not mistaken, is a community
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: garden or HOA. I don't know how long they're going
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: to allow you to put, you know, those covers over.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I agree. If you can provide protection, it does protect
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: gardens like that or plants. You know, we talked about
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: those plants that died in our yard just because if
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: we really wanted to and we went out there and
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: put some kind of protection, they would have been okay. Right.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But I just didn't.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: If you really cared about me, you would have given
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: me protection.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: You know, our buddy Kevin in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, reminds
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: me a little bit of Steve from Simi Valley with
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: this comment.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: He says, sometimes the garden will surprise you. This year,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: we have lots of thyme, columbine, and Johnny jump-ups that
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: just popped up on their own. The time's almost out
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: of control.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Steve. Hey, guys, I'm just calling to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: tell you, you know, and we're handling questions, you know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: about people that are failing. Everything's out of control. I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: don't know what to do. Everything's just growing over everything.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: What do I do?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: And that was funny. Yeah, he was very successful. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: he was in the San Fernando Valley.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: It does get hot but kevin knows he's just gonna
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: leave everything alone let it grow right this winter is
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: on the way that'll stop it so to.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Answer whose question was regarding the texas ranger uh.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Is that john and bond no that was um.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Anyways, Texas Ranger, or sometimes they call it Texas Sage,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: is edible, but it is not recommended. Like, it's not flavorful.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: So it could be eaten. It's not going to kill you.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: So the answer, yeah, the answer is it won't kill you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: But we don't recommend eating it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that won't kill you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: We don't recommend it. It is break time again. Tiger
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: questions the clock here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to start my clock now. You should. You should.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian, John,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if you are keeping track, this is the final
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  Speaker 2: segment of hour number one on BizTalk Radio, the last
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: segment in the first half of Facebook Live. So there
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you have it. And then we're going to shut down
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: at the top of the hour and start over again
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, John.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: I need to remember that. Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: We're going to shut down with or without you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, who needs AI when
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: we have listeners?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Because... You know what they are? They are AI.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They're awesome individuals.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: There you go. Our listeners are AI. Our good friend, Lila.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: You know, I think I just was explaining to Tiger
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: how poinsettia pulcherrima meant more beautiful. And Lila says, euphorbia
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: or poinsettia? It's actually euphorbia. Pulcherama, which means the more
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: beautiful euphorbia.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: She listens to the show, doesn't she? She does.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would recommend listen very carefully to what we say.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And take it with a grain of salt. A grain
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of salt.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Why do you take things with a grain of salt?
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Where did that come from?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Somebody will know.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Preserve it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Probably the same person that says to throw salt over
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: your shoulder, right?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Veronica said thanks for looking it up. She's definitely not
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: going to plan it.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Plant it or eat it? Plant it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Because you can.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Plant it, but you just can't eat it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Not in the vegetable garden, maybe.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Joyce said that her cucumbers did not make it through
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: the heat.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right? That's one of those bummer plants, too, because
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: you plant them with this season in mind, so to speak,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: this long game. And you can have it for a month,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: two months growing, all is good. And then, boom, something
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: can wipe it out. And that's tough because you've invested
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: so much into it already.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Sometimes cucumbers, for me, take a cue from zucchini.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, come on, that's enough.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Nobody wants you anymore.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Stop showing off. Yeah.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: So maybe it's that time. And it's a warm weather plant,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: but yeah, there's a difference between warm and boiling.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw something on Facebook. You did.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Did you now?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: When people say coming out of left field, that's a
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: weird term. Wouldn't it be right field? Because less happens
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in right field.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: No, but the left field is where the bullpen was.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Is that right? No, I'm just making that up.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That sounded good. Anyway, one of our listeners and viewers
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: used to play volleyball in high school and college, I believe.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: And posted a picture of the volleyball team on Facebook.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Who was that? Do you remember seeing that? Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I remember. Who was that?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I think this person should let us know who it
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: is in the comments.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, whoa. Of course, then you want
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to kind of zoom in, you know. I think this
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: person was the back row top left.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: My daughter-in-law went to college on a volleyball scholarship.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So she's tall, I'm assuming.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: She's tall, yeah.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Michelle?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she's tall. I mean, and especially for
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: a girl.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So like 5'9 or 5'10 for a woman like that tall?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's tall like that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Sounds like an Aerosmith song. She's tall like that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: She's tall like that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Does this person come forward yet?
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: No, but Carla outed her.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Carla did, huh?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: She said, that was Lenore. Yep. Such a cool photo.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: You know, on a positive note, Joyce said she at
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: least got to make some pickles before the heat got
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: to cucumbers.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: All right, Carla. What did Carla say about watering a plant?
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: You know, here's something I never, ever would have thought about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: And maybe you would have, Brian. But do you know
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: how the chia crops are doing for the farmers in
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Imperial County?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's been on again, off again.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Well, Kevin found chia milk one year, and it's delicious.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Really? Yep.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: He doesn't drink almond, soy, or oat milk, but he
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: loves chia milk, pistachio, and macadamia milk.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Is that like a chia pet where it grows hair
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: after a while?
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the chia that's growing on the pets. Chia's
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the plant. Right, right.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And he drinks chia milk.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: And macadamia milk and pistachio milk.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Now, pistachio sounds good.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: What was your favorite? It was pistachio, limoncello.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, which I've never found since. I don't
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: care how many limoncellos there are, once you leave Italy,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: it's not the same.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: You would go back to Italy just for that?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I'd make it a point, not for that, but I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: would make it a point to... Pick up 10 or
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: 15 bottles.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: I tell you that I planted an Italian lemon, the
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: one they used to make Limoncello, just for you, so
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: I could pick the lemons for you to make your own.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: When was this?
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I planted it about two or three years ago.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: How's it doing? That's a lot of effort.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Well, right now it's full of lemons. Not ripe yet.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Is this one of the first fruiting? Because you've had
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: it for a couple years, so have you had lemons
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: off of it before?
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Not one here or there. I have two, though. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: have one by the road, and I have one down
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: by Jesse's.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Was it a specific flavor? Like when you ate it,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: do you remember?
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: It was a particular variety that's used.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I know, but compare it to Meyer lemon.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: It's not a sweet lemon. It's a sour lemon.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: So it's sour? Yeah.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's... It's related to a Genoa lemon. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: when we were in, where was it? It's when we
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: went to Mentone. Do you remember that?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were saying the Mentone lemon.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Mentone lemon is a variety of Genoa lemon.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: And the only place in the world they grow is
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: in Mentone, France, right across the border from Italy into Mentone.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: So I tried to get something that was the closest possible. And, uh,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: and so I've got it and it, when it's ripe
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: and I'll pick them and give them to you if
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: you want to make some.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Why did the process of making limoncello?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: How big is the lemon? Is it like a Meyer?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Is it like a Eureka?
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: It's, uh, actually a little larger.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Than a Eureka. Oh, wow.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That's a big lemon.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It's not like Ponderosa though.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: But that's for a, for a, like a, like a,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: you know, Not a wild lemon like Ponderosa, you know?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big lemon, I feel.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Ponderosas aren't wild.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Well, but I mean, like, it's... What am I trying
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: to say? Like a cultivar. You know, like a bread,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: you know, variety kind of a thing. Like Ponderosa is
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: like a.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Whenever I hear Ponderosa, that's sort of big old lemon there,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: isn't it?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Big old lemon, big old thorn.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, look at the time. And look at the time.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: So we got to take a break. We're going to
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: lead up to the break.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And Brian's teaching me right now because he's about to leave.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: And by the way, you can cheat.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: You see that there? Yeah.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: They're going to play a music bed if we stop
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: at that time in bold. If not, No music bed.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You've got another 20 seconds.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Do I have to be one or the other, though? Yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: one or the other.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: You can't go past the ones at the bottom.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: So you're not going to be here the second hour.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be here, I think, yeah, for the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: first segment or two. We'll see how it goes. So
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a break. News coming up on
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: BizTalk Radio. Facebook Live. We're going to recharge, shut off Facebook,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and come back at six minutes after or thereabouts. Stay
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: with us. all right welcome back my friends to uh
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: garden america i say welcome back if you were with
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: us the first hour or the first half it is
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: a welcome back but perhaps you're joining us for the
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: first time and then we just a general welcome thank
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: you for joining us on garden america and we hope
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that you're having a good morning so far a good
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: weekend yes i hope it's cooling off where you are
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: yeah relief.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Even some rain would be a welcome i would love
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: rain yeah Exactly. So it'll be changing here pretty soon.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: The seasons are changing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: And the times they are changing.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: The times they are changing.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: You know who said that? Bob Dylan.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I believe it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: But he said, the times they were changing. That's how
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: he said it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Well, actually, that was singing. That's exactly the way he sings.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Once upon a time, did you? That's Bob Dylan.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: In all of his songs.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: What direction is the view out of the pool house window?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Behind us?
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Behind us would be heading west. West.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Yes. Oh, that's the ocean over the hill? Yeah.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Not over that hill. Over that hill and about another,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: maybe what, couple miles as the bird flies? Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You have a good sense of direction, don't you?
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: The easiest way to drive when you're in the car is.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Is on the road.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Is to either have a GPS or your wife next
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: to you. Because if your wife tells you to turn
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: one way, you just go the opposite direction.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the comments. I don't think a lot
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: of people have joined us yet.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: That was good to sneak that in. Brian's like, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: think it's a great time for me to step out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: And Taki says, no, no, at least get us started.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: And if my lovely wife Shannon is listening, it was
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: a joke.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's funny.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You know, so everyone's wife is lovely. Hey, I ran it. Hey,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I saw your lovely wife downtown.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know what? I ran, I bumped into your
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: lovely wife. Do you know what?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I've been watching a couple or speaking of wives, Shannon's
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: been watching a couple of English shows and you know,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: the great British, great baking show.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: And there's love that show.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. There's another one out that she's been watching that
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I didn't know about. That's with painters, portrait painters.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Did you know about that? So they'll have, um, a
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: a famous person in england anyway like the one i
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: watched last had uh judy dench and she would sit
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: for a portrait they have four hours to do this
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: portrait and they get people competing from all over england
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: i think there's 10 or 12 but like you're saying
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: everything's lovely.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Lovely yeah well they're the british anyway lovely yeah everything
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: is lovely lovely You know, but I think in terms
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: of when we say, like, Tiger, I saw your lovely wife, Janine,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I think it's more like commenting on what kind of
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: person she is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: You're just a lovely person. Yeah. Not the way she looks.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it could be. But, you know, no, this
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: is an example.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Because I think she's good.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: But everything there is lovely.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: But everything's lovely. Everything is lovely. But, you know, it's
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: funny then when we talk about, like, I guess would
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: they be inanimate objects about plants? We talk about gardening,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: so we're talking about people's flowers or plants or the tomato.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You really don't have any hesitation to hold back then though, right?
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Meaning if somebody's like, oh, what do you think about
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: this flower? You could say it's ugly. You could say
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: it's beautiful. You don't need to hold back a little bit.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Because I don't use the word lovely at all.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Just not a word in my vernacular.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: And why would you use any word besides awesome? That
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: covers everything.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: But you know what?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Sometimes that word's abused. Like, oh, look at that awesome refrigerator. Oh,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it's nice, but I don't know if it's awesome.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: You know? It's overused, you know?
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it mixes a drink for you and puts
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: it on the table. That would be awesome.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I think it'd be interesting.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I was listening on the radio on the way over
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: here today about a about how a problem with older
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: people who don't have relatives or people visiting them, they're
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: alone in these retirement homes, and they're coming up with
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: AI robots that can talk to them.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Keep them company.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I saw a whole thing on the future of AI
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: robots in people's homes that'll be able to do things
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: for them, fold the laundry, do the dishes, and do
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: all those things.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: What is the... plant on your patio that you have
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: the deepest relationship with?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Isn't that a great question? Because you know there's one.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: You know there's one above and beyond all the others
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: that you have a relationship with.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I feel so dirty.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Let's see.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: A relationship with. Well, I like all my palms.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. But if somebody was going to come and say,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take one of your plants, which one
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: would you not let them have?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: The Australian bottle tree. Really?
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Because it's unique. It's different.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Do you know there's only seven people in my whole
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: HOA that have them? It's a joke because nobody does. No,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it's unusual.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: John, it's huge. It hits the ceiling almost.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I like having plants that other people don't have.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, exactly.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Do you think that all plant people are like that?
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: If you really like plants, you want to have something
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: no one else has.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: When you gave it to me, it was like, wasn't
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that big, was it?
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't that big.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do with it. John said,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: grow it. I said, oh, I can grow it. And
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I put it in a big pot. It's in a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: huge pot. I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: So, not for a good reason, but there's a gardenia
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: outside in the front yard next to the red hibiscus,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: which is right by Isaac's bedroom window. And that gardenia
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: is always struggling and it's still struggling. It's not thriving. Yeah.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: But I look at that every week.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I have my deepest relationship with plants with that gardenia.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I give it the most care above and beyond all
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: other plants.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: It's always kind of hanging in there.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It just hasn't thrived. I've given it the most fertilizer.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I've given it the most water. And I haven't given
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it enough because it's not thriving.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: But out of all the plants, I've given it the
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: most compared. And if I lost that plant, I would
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: be sad because I put so much into it to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: make it just survive.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: But do you feel in the back of your mind
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: that you think, I know that plant would do much
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: better if I took care of it?
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: So you're on some kind of power trip.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Just. I keep it right there, always wanting more.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: No, because I have.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Plants like that that I know are struggling. But I
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: know if I did, it's fine as long as I
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: can do something extra for it. I just don't have time.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use the word blood because I don't
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: know what else it would be. What are all those
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: red spots that start in your driveway and continue on
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: into your yard?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: So that's from the bananas when we cut them. Really?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: Did you see those when you came in? So when
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: you have bananas and you cut them, What comes out
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: of it is just like water.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Okay. But it'll mark up the concrete too.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Like that. It looks like blood.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Spots all over.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: It looks like blood spots.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. Because I'm thinking, I saw it outside in the driveway.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: And I thought, okay, well, this is where the murder happened.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And then this is where they drug the body because
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: you can see all the spots.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: All the spots.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: The banana story is good. See if the cops buy it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: But you bring up a very valid question because I
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: know what it's from, but I don't know why. Because
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: when bananas cut, it's clear water. It's not like a
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: milky sap. It's not like a different coloration. But when
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: it shows up later, it's that coppery red color.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, coppery. Yeah, rust.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: So I wonder if there's something in the banana water
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: that when it evaporates, leaves that behind. And it doesn't
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: come off. It stays on my concrete. It stains it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you about bananas. Because we always
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: buy bananas every week and keep them in a basket
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Because of this hot weather, there's no way they had
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: to go in the refrigerator because they ripen up much
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: too quickly. Very fast.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, true.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Well, especially when you're air conditioned, you probably don't have
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: that problem.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his house is 72. The refrigerator's warmer than John's house.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: During the day, we turn it up to 74.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: But we've had to put the bananas in the refrigerator.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: They ripen too quickly.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I've had that with avocados.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, right?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Normally, they... If you have an avocado that's hard, you
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: can just set it in a bowl with apples and stuff.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: It'll sit there for like up to a week, right?
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: But here, two days, and it's got to go in
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: the refrigerator.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. It's tough. And then it's that balance of
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: keeping your house cool, and then we leave during the day.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: and so we turn off the AC. So the house
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: gets up to 82.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ridiculous, right?
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous. It stays that way, so... Yeah.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Carla has the same feelings as you, Tiger. Her favorite
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: plant is rhododendron, taro vents.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Evans.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Vince Evans?
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: It was a plant she got at Nuseos, though.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: And it struggles.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's one she really likes.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Really likes.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: It's break time. We're going to put you on your
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: own here.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: What?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Because I have to leave.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Brian's leaving.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Say goodbye to everybody. Goodbye, everybody.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Goodbye.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I'll be back next week. Got to leave early. So
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: you're going to be doing segments six, seven, and eight.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't hang up, though, because Tiger and I will
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: be here.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Don't go. Just me leaving. So I'll see you next week.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. BizTalk Radio, Facebook Live.
• 50:07
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• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Back to garden america biz talk radio facebook live all
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: of our viewers out there and as you guys can
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: see if you're watching the show that brian has stepped
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: out of the building so now we get to say
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: whatever we want about him right john i mean now
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: that he's gone we can we can say all the
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: things that we've been wanting to hold back all this
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: time can.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: You honestly think anything you would want to say about
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: brian with him not being here that we haven't.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Said when he is here no yeah it's funny We
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: have a great, honest relationship. It's good. Yeah. It's definitely
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: easy to be around each other. Yeah.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I think you can tell that we really like each other.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: Tanya in San Jose says that her sweet olive has
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: started blooming. Oh. And she said the side patio smells
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: so good now.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Nice. Nice.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Sweet olive is osmanthus, right?
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Osmanthus.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Osmanthus fragrance.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Is that the second part? Fragrance. Fragrance.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Or fragrant. Right?
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: What was the other one? Paul, the more beautiful.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Pulcherima. Pulcherima. Yeah. The Latin word for beauty is pulcher. P-U-L-C-H-E-R, pulcher,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: which is where we get the English word pulchritude from,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: which you probably use every day.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I never use the word pulchritude. Yeah. But because I
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: knew a little bit of Latin, when I first saw
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: the word pulchrituda, I goes, oh, it means beauty.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: It's sweet olive too. I feel it's a little late though.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Aren't they a little earlier? I don't think it needed
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: this much time or this much heat because usually they're
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: kind of like a summer and I feel like we're
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: almost already into fall.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about like San Jose is at
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Some more moderate temperatures.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Or where it's at in the yard. Yeah. A little
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: bit more protection or something cooler. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: I think I've had some bloom even late fall.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: But it just depends. This year, the schedules are thrown
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: off for everything.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Carl had made a comment that said that he
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: is sad. Uh-oh. Capital S, capital A, capital D.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: That's a big sad.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: What is she referring to?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Well, Tanya said she got back late and she asked
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Carla what she was referring to. And Carla was referring
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: to the AI robots keeping old people company.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Yeah. It is, it is kind of a,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: you know, different in cultures, right. On our societies and how,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: you know, we treat different aspects of life, you know,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and it can go for the youth too, you know, that,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: you know, our focus is not always being around the
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: youth and, you know, helping them mature and develop. And we,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: we just trust that they, we put them into a
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: school and they'll teach them how to be people and
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: who they are and what they do, where I kind
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: of feel like it was much more of a village
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: earlier in our society. You know, other societies are different.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have a friend that lives in Switzerland
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: and their children at a very young age, walk to school, even,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: you know, a couple of miles at kindergarten and, but
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: they all kind of like will walk together as they
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: kind of make their way. And the community knows to
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: watch out for these children as they cross the street
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: and help them out as they kind of go along. But,
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: you know, it's just different. Every, every place, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: treats different generations differently, you know, where we, if we
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: see a group of kids, you know, walking alone to school,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: we're going to call CPS on them because somebody abandoned
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: them or something like that.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. And I don't know if it's a,
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: it might be a cultural thing, but, you know, when
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I was growing up, older people always lived with younger people.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: You know, that like you expected your parents to move
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: in with one of the, you or your brother or sisters. Yeah.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: You never expected to put them in a home anyway.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't know about that. I know.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: You don't expect, though. Like, do you?
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: No.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, you don't, right? But that changed, too. And it's
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: not a matter of, like, you don't want to live
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: with your children.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know about that.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, you never expected that of them, you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: or you don't expect that of them.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: No, but they have told us that we could live
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: with them.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Okay. So they haven't shut you down. No. But you
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: don't plan to take that path.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: No, but I also don't plan on being in any
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: type of retirement home either.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: So you just plan on living alone with Shannon until...
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Until I wake up dead. I like that. Until you
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: wake up dead. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that's just your plan. But,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've had a history, though. The fall in
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: the driveway.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: You know, like, there's been a couple incidences that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Now you sound like my wife.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: You need to start, you know, questioning some life choices,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: you know, as far as, like, you might not.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: That was almost 10 years ago that I fell in
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: the driveway, though, and that was not like a trip
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: and fall. It was running and slipping on a slippery driveway.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That is true.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think that one was my fault.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: You're not going to take credit no.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: No anyway started to say that back in biblical times
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: the um you know you had a family living in
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: one house and when the kids grew up and got
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: married they didn't move away they built on to that
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: original house yeah you had another room.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah or another part of the house right yeah exactly
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: yeah and you know just keep Keeps the family compound, right?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: So to speak.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Wasn't really another part of the house. They actually had
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: to build a new room because they didn't just have
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: huge homes where they didn't use rooms.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: With empty rooms.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: So let's see. Where are we here? Oh, Carla wondered
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: if the osmanthus was an actual olive.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: And it's not. No.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: It's an osmanthus. Yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: I wonder why it is called olive.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Well, don't the leaves kind of look like they're grayish
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: like an.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Olive leaf yeah so maybe that is yeah kind of
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: like the um what is it the australian rosemary the
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: westringia you know looks like a rosemary but oh yeah
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: nothing yeah it doesn't smell like rosemary it doesn't you
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: know what.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: The species of the westringia fruticosa what is it rosmarinifolius
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: which is leaves leaves like rosemary like rosemary right um
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Tanya kind of agreed with me. She smells
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: sweet olives around Halloween a lot of times.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: So it is early because it's not Halloween yet. And
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: maybe because we've had such hot days.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: And it does depend on where you are.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All caught up for now?
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Well, Kevin was saying what is sad is how much
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: we love our smartphones and can't live without them now.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: So we're dependent on them. But I guess that's a
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: good thing. Three question marks after that. Do you ever
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: go anywhere without your phone?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: That's impossible. How would I get around?
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: What about in the house? Do you carry it with you?
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Yes. What if somebody needs to get a hold of it?
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: That's a huge change from when we were growing up.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: Even you from when you were growing up. Yes. Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, I went out in the world and nobody
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: was able to connect with me for days.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: Until you got a pager.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. Did you have a pager? Very short window
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: of time. Yeah. Because pagers were more for adults when
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: they came out. Right. And by the time I was
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: old enough to have one, that's when the phones were
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: coming out. but um we we do have to take
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: a break we got about 15 to 20 seconds but
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: when we get back we'll continue the discussion of whether
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: i had a page or a phone and sweet olives
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: smelling now or in october and all kinds of other
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: gardening questions so once again this is garden america We're
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: going to take a break for our sponsors here on
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: BizTalk Radio and Facebook Live. And then when we come back,
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: we'll keep answering the questions even though Brian isn't around.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: All right. All right, we're back. Garden America, John Bagnosco,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Tiger Palafox.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Gardening and Tech Show.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Gardening and Tech. We would be the worst tech show ever.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Colleen makes a good point here, though. She said,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: you know, talking about the robots keeping track of or
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: keeping company.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: She said that some of those robots don't only keep company,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: but they track medical issues. Oh, yeah. So huge.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I, you know, if we were to,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: if you, it would be very easy to paint an
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: amazing picture for having a robot companion as an older person. Okay.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Number one, the patients. Okay. Meaning the, the patients to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: deal with an older person, it takes a special human
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: to sit in a room with someone. That is repeating themselves,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: is getting lost in conversation.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. You do a good job with me.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: I know, right? See? But it, I mean, you know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: bless their heart, the people that work in those facilities
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: that have to like, you know, deal with the dementia,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: to deal with the, you know, combative, you know, aging,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: you know, people.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: You know, they, that's gotta be very difficult. So imagine
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: now you take away emotion with that and you just
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: have someone that can just be patient and understanding and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: caring and all that. Okay. And then imagine that they
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: can record all that information and now refer back to it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Like you're saying mental health, if somebody is constantly repeating themselves,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: they can be like, you know what? They have an
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: onset of this issue because, but if, but me half
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: the time I'm listening to you, I'm not even, I'm
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: not remembering what you say because I don't listen to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: you deep.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: I don't blame you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: No, but I mean, so, so, and they can keep
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: track of that. And then, you know, like we say,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: like with these watches nowadays and these rings that are tracking,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: you know, heart rate and, and blood, you know, and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: oxygen levels and all this stuff, it's, it's amazing. You know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the information that they can keep track on just the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: medical health of anyone and, you know, and being able
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: to catch something before it becomes an issue. Don't you
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: think that like you would prefer to know or do
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: you just prefer to live in a life that you
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: don't know what's going on with you? Because you're not
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: a big like go to the doctor all the time guy.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked about this. You get your regular
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: checkups and all that. But like, you know, I mean,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, you know what I mean? If it's happening,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: it's happening.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it depends on your outlook.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know I well as you get older you
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: know you you know that you're not going to live
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: as many years as you did 10 years ago right
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: and I have some friends that are the age like
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I have one one friend who has prostate cancer that's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: a warning for you by the way when you get
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: to be my age all your friends will have prostate
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: cancer yes exactly But he came to a breakfast one
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: time and said that he had, the doctor told him
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: he had five to seven years to live.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: And he was really depressed. And my thought was, you know,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: like my eyes lit up. I just thought, wow, good news.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: And so I guess it depends on your outlook. You know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: if it was me, would I have felt differently? I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah. I don't think so.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Like, like I kind of like, like the idea that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: it's like, you've got five to seven years, make the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: most of it. And you, you could be like, at
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: least he didn't say one to two, you know, like
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: meaning like.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: He's giving me a long time. That's kind of what
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: I thought, you know, five to seven, especially if it's
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: five to seven good years. You know, I remember back
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: when I was the first time that, um, maybe, uh,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: The thought of mortality hit me. I was about 10
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: years old.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: And I was reading the Detroit News newspaper. They used
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: to have these things called newspapers that would come every day.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: Just show up on your doorstep? That's wild.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: And they would have all the news in them. And
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, you got colored comics. But I was reading
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: this article about a priest who... was dying of cancer.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: And the doctors had said that he had one month
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: to live and he would be dead in 30 days.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: And this reporter in the article was interviewing the priest
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: and asking him if he felt bad. And he said, no,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: it made him feel great. And the reporter said, well, why?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: And he goes, well, you're going to die too. He says,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: the only difference between you and me is I know when.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Now I can just go. And I kind
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: of feel like I give that news to people sometimes
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: when it comes to gardening. Because I think a lot
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: of people understand the idea of an annual, meaning they're
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: going to plant it, it's going to die. And they
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: kind of know that, right? There's that understanding that this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: plant is going to die. But anything that's not an annual...
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I think people just expect it to live forever and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: they don't understand that. No, you know, there's plants that, yeah,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: they might not be an annual, but they are also three,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: four years and that's it. And they do die. And
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: that's just the normal lifespan of that plant because people
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: plant this, you know, plant thinking, Oh, this is going
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: to be here for 10 plus years. And it's after
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: two or three years, it dies. And they're like, what happened?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's, it got old. And they're like, wait
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: a minute. No, that doesn't happen. I'm like, no, it does. Like, They,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: they plants die after there's a time and they don't understand.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, we use the term short lived perennial. Right.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: But that's a very like vague, you know, it could
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: be three years. It could be 10 years. Right. Like it's.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: We also use long lived.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Do you use, I don't think I've ever used long
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: lived perennial. Really?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: I've seen that in some garden writing.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: What do you think you would consider a long lived perennial?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: One on the top of your head.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Mint.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Good one. Yes, that is a long-lived perennial.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: No, but some things don't usually die out. Some perennials
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: need to be divided because they just get to be
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: too huge. But, you know, peonies are really hardy. Most
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: long-lived perennials would be, in my mind, would be cooler
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: season ones. You know, not warm season.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It preserves them that cool weather. Mm-hmm. Um,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: and that's just it too. People always want something that's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: going to like, they're just going to plant and it's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: just going to live there forever. I always find that
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: funny too, because when somebody is planting plants with the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: idea that I'm just going to like, not touch this,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: not come back to this, not, I'm going to plant
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: it and it's just going to be there now forever. Like, why,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: why would you want that? Like, you know, you know
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Unless it's a oak tree. Like, why
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: would you want that? Why would you want that Tacoma
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: just to be in that corner forever? You know, I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: always feel like, no, I want it to eventually die
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: and then I can put something new in its place.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: But what about trees?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's what I'm saying. Unless it's like an
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: oak tree.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Like some kind of tree because you're planting.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: That for the long run. But when you plant a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: specimen tree, you expect it to be there.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Long time.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like buying a couch. Yeah. A couch? Well,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: you don't buy a couch that you expect to change
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: every year, right?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: No, definitely not. You might.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Put a chair before you put in the couch.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Or your mattress. A mattress is a long-term investment.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Or pillows.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I wish I changed my pillows more often. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: always like a good new pillow. Whenever I have new pillows,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I love a new pillow.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: Have you ever thrown a pillow away?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to have.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Have you?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: What do you do with it if you don't throw
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: it away?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: It just seems we have so many pillows in our house.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, it just goes into another room?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: So many.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: I know we've thrown some away, but.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, have you ever seen a baby pigeon?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: You know they exist. You just have never seen one.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: That's funny.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Lenore wants to know how long one of her mandarins
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: is going to live.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. We've talked about this a number of times, right?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: The citrus trees that people say they age out. They
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: have to chop down whole orchards and then replant them.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, no, that's not the case.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you also have to break apart a question.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: This is Lenore. How long is hers going to live?
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: It depends, Lenore. It should live indefinitely for you.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: You should never see it die.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: But something... Something could cause it to die, especially if
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: it's in a container. But we mentioned several times on
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: the show how the original Washington Naval orange trees that
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: came to California, that is it two of the three
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: original trees that came are still alive.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: And they came here in the 1800s.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: And they're at the Mission Inn.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Up in, is that L.A. County or Riverside County?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: Riverside.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cause they, you, they had one at Irvine and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: that one died or something. I remember you saying they
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: had one somewhere else. Like you said, I can't remember.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But we've got about 28 seconds left before our
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: next break. And then this will, that will be, this
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: will be our last break. And then our, we're going
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: to have a, a, like an eight minute spot and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: then our show is over. So yeah, This is the
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: time to get in all your questions so we can
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: provide you.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: You only know that because it's all written down for you, right?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Kevin just wrote a book. I see. Have you started
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: even reading that? That might take you the rest of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: the show just to read that question.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: I read it.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, did you? Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: take a break. BizTalk Radio, Garden America. This is John
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: and Tiger. We'll get right back to you after this break.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: All right. Welcome back. Garden America. John, we were just
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: commenting before the break that Kevin wrote his thesis from college,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: Well, he's back to a gardening question. He said that
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: he's seen my rose garden in the past. I guess
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: when we do a show from our house.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: And he was wondering how many rose bushes we have
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: and are the prettiest ones not as fragrant as the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: not so pretty ones i love that question and what's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: the mix of roses more fragrant ones versus more show roses.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Such a loaded loaded question right because beauty is in
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: the eye of the beholder.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: That's true and a lot of people collect plants based
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: on characteristics that they're looking for at that time right
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: and there's so many different kinds of roses you know
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: there's heirloom rose growers heritage there's heritage rose groups that
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: only grow roses from before 1900 yeah and you know
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: they they like those a lot of those are fragrant
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: and uh and some aren't but but a lot are
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: then there's people who are exhibitors and they go to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: rose shows and they only want roses with uh what's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: called exhibition form you know a high pointed hybrid tea
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: And then there's people who just want fragrant roses. And
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: there's people that want all kinds of roses.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: People that want glow-in-the-dark roses.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: They don't have those yet.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: They will, though. And that'll become popular at that time.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: They have petunias. You know, that brings up a point.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I just ordered a rose. Whether I'll get it or not,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But it's a variety called Applause.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Like clapping.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: Yay, good job.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: And it was from Suntory.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: And do you know what's special about this rose?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: It glows in the dark?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: It has the gene for blue in it.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: So remember the one that they pulled out of a,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: was it a pansy?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: Wherever they got the blue color from. I always get
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: confused because the gene that causes blue is, the blue
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: pigment is delphinidin, like delphinium.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: Delphinium.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't from a delphinium that they got the gene.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: But anyway, this is in that rose. And my thought was,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: first of all, the rose is lavender. It's not blue,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: but it does have that gene. And so theoretically, it
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: has the capability of producing a blue rose someday. But
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: what's interesting is that that rose has a utility patent
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: on it, which means that if you ever breed with
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: that rose and they find... Like, say you came up
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: with a blue rose.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: And Suntory tests the rose and says, hey, we have
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: a utility patent on that gene, and it's in your rose.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: That's ours. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? It is.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: That's the, you know, and that's the, you know, on
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: the bad side of it, that's where Monsanto has gotten
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: into trouble with their stuff.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: That's how they got their bad name, I think.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Because they did that with the corn.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: With farms.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: And it's like, man, yeah, you could say that, your
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: corn is in my field yeah but i'm in the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: middle of thousands of acres of other people's corn right
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: to say that i ever planted it it's hard because
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: wind and birds and whatever else could move corn around
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: yeah and then they they would go back to those
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: farmers and and say hey no no no you're using
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: our corn right so that's the same kind of thing
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: that they got their.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: Seed right And the seed was genetically modified.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: So you could spray Roundup on it and it would
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: not kill the corn. Right. But if you were a
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: farmer and you collected your corn seeds and replanted the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: next year. Yeah. Because corn is wind pollinated, you would
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: have that gene.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: And you could have never bought it.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: But you can't avoid it either. What, are you going
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: to put up a barrier between the fields and be like,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: no wind over here?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think that was the beginning of the end.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: I say that, but a multi-billion dollar company.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: But that's kind of like the same thing where, do
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: you know, patents always expire, right? Don't they always expire?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: have a date where they can no longer have them anymore.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: So at some point in time, Suntory won't be able
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: to come after anybody that has a Blue Rose.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I'd have to look it up. Your buddy, ChatGPT,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: could tell us.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Do the expiration.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But I think a utility patent may last longer
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: than a regular plant patent. But I'm not sure. And
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: you know what else has a utility patent in the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: plant world is the Kalanchoe.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: The double flowering kalanchoe? You know how it wasn't that
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: long ago, maybe 20, 30 years ago, there were no
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: double flowering ones? Well, now the gene that develops the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: double flowering, it has a utility patent on it. Oh.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: So anytime you have a double flowering one, you have
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: to pay a royalty.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: Uh-oh. And then for those of you, another little tidbit
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: of information that are not familiar with Suntory. It's a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: crazy thing because Suntory is an alcohol company from Japan. Yes.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: That's their biggest moneymaker, I think, right? Is alcohol. And
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: they also do plants.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Somebody from Suntory at a trade show gave me a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: can of one of their mixed... They have mixed drinks
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: in cans. Yeah. And gave me.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like alcohol is their money. And then the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: plants are their passion project. Yeah. You know, but they
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: do really cool thing with plants. They do really cool stuff.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: A lot of research.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So funny thing about Suntory is, you know, yeah,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: you know, and then, you know, Dumen, Dumen is a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: German or is it Dutch? Dutch. Yeah. I was going
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: to say Dumen or Netherlands.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: And they changed their name from Dumen to Dumen orange.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you know why? I don't know.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Cause orange is the Dutch color. Dutch color. Yeah.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: But I feel like they're involved with booze somehow, too. Yeah.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I guess if you're plants, you know.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: They kind of go hand money. A lot of people
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: get involved in booze. Lila wants to know what plants
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: are in bloom this time of year.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: Cecilpinia.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: The Mexican bird of paradise that we talked about.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Tacoma. You know, those dry, hot-loving, you know, plants like
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: the Cape Honeysuckles and things like that.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Carla mentioned her asters were starting to bloom.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Mums are starting.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: Mums, to me, are always an indication of Santa Ana. Yeah, right?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: As soon as they show up in the garden centers,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: you know a Santa Ana's on the way.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: It's like washing your car right before and then the rain.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: It burns all the flowers off them.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: But yeah, mums are a good fall flower. And then
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: as the weather cools off, you know, then it'll be
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: the traditional fall flowers. But I don't think there's a
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: lot of flowers that wait till fall. A rutabecchia is one, right?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Gloriosa daisies.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: And you guys had some beautiful ones at the nursery.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: And I always thought those as more of a short-lived
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: annual or perennial.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so too.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: But I got one from you last year and it
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: came up and bloomed this year.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: They're very hardy, but I agree with you. They're kind
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: of short-lived to me too.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: All right. That's a wrap. We've got 10 seconds. Goodbye, everyone.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you for joining the show. Have a great rest
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: of the weekend. Enjoy this cooler weather. And we'll see
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: you again next week.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Do we have a guest next week or no?
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: We're going to try.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't locked it in yet, but we're trying. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: Goodbye, everybody.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Have a great weekend. Garden America out. Get growing, America.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: There you go.