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Dallisa Hocking · Postcards to the Universe

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  Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe in magic? What if you were told
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  Speaker 1: that all you had to do was get a little
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  Speaker 1: creative and work a magic spell to bring anything you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine into your life. Here on Postcards to the Universe,
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  Speaker 1: we will share manifesting tips, postcards, creativity, abundance, and prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Melissa Capria.
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  Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to Postcards to the Universe with
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  Speaker 2: Melissa creating the life you crave. How are you guys
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  Speaker 2: doing today? It's Wednesday. I hope everybody's doing well. It's
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  Speaker 2: my favorite day of the week because I always have
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  Speaker 2: the most interesting guests. And today I have psychic medium
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  Speaker 2: Dealisa Hawking with me and she's going to join me
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  Speaker 2: in just a minute or two. I wanted to say
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  Speaker 2: welcome to all of my regulars who join me every week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much. And I know you're
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  Speaker 2: listening because and watching because I'm getting messages, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just it makes me so happy that you're here with
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  Speaker 2: me every week, or you're watching me on a replay.
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  Speaker 2: We're streaming live. If you're here on January twenty first,
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  Speaker 2: it's we're streaming live right now four pm Eastern time.
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  Speaker 2: If not, and you're watching me on a replay, I
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  Speaker 2: really appreciate it a little bit about me. I'm a photographer,
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  Speaker 2: I'm an author. You could see my book above my
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  Speaker 2: head Postcards to the Universe, Harness the Universe's power and
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  Speaker 2: manifest your dreams, and I make well, I make them,
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  Speaker 2: but I also have people make them manifesting postcards, kind
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  Speaker 2: of like a vision board, little mini one. They send
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  Speaker 2: it to me and I photograph it and when their
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  Speaker 2: story shows up in the reality, those are the stories
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  Speaker 2: that are.
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  Speaker 3: In my book.
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  Speaker 2: And what I did was I created an oracle deck.
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  Speaker 2: So I do readings now every day. They're about three minutes.
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  Speaker 2: They're on all social media, YouTube, so especially YouTube. I
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  Speaker 2: would love it if you would come over on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: and watch my videos and subscribe, and like, I'm really
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  Speaker 2: trying to build the channel. That's what I'm working on
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  Speaker 2: this year, and I'm also going to eventually publish.
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  Speaker 3: Those for sale.
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  Speaker 2: But they are photographs of the manifesting postcards that I received,
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  Speaker 2: and I make them like a daily affirmation, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I'm always about bringing raising the frequency of what's going.
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  Speaker 3: On in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know, everything is a mirror back to us, So
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  Speaker 2: I want my mirror back to me in my life
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  Speaker 2: to be what's in my heart. And what's in my
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  Speaker 2: heart is doing daily practices of meditation, reading oracle.
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  Speaker 3: I'm learning.
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  Speaker 2: I've learned to read the Tourou, I do terro readings,
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  Speaker 2: and I do short inspirational talks. So I would love
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  Speaker 2: it if you would go on Postcards to the Universe
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube and subscribe and like and join me over there,
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  Speaker 2: ask any questions you want. And twice a month, the
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  Speaker 2: first and third Wednesday of the mo I have my
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  Speaker 2: show Creating the Life You Crave. And today I have
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  Speaker 2: Delisa Hawking and she is a fifth generation psychic medium
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  Speaker 2: renowned for her bold and uncanny accurate predictions.
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  Speaker 3: About global events.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, Delisa, Thank you so much for joining me today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really excited to talk to you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh Melissa, We're gonna have quite the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: So good, good, good good. We need to we need to.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna let you tell everybody about you and
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  Speaker 2: how you got into this kind of work. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: it's an incredible story that you know that you're a
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  Speaker 2: fifth generation psychic medium. So I obviously it runs in
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  Speaker 2: the family, in the bloodline and the family, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: share with us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I did not answer and add on Craigslist for
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  Speaker 4: this job, of this was not in my life plans.
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  Speaker 4: But here we are. And as we were discussing backstage,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of us probably didn't grow up thinking I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to be a psychic or a medium or talk
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  Speaker 4: to people that have passed away. So I was actually
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  Speaker 4: a dating coach and a matchmaker, and I own my
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  Speaker 4: own company. And I'll take you back to twenty fifteen
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  Speaker 4: when this all happened. So I was running that company,
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  Speaker 4: and I was working at a business school in Texas,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, the last minute, like, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: there's a retreat at the Omega Institute in New York
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  Speaker 4: that I have, Like it's a workshop on synchronicity, how
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  Speaker 4: everything happens for a reason. I'm like, I gotta go.
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  Speaker 4: I got to be there. So last minute, I booked
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  Speaker 4: a ticket. I get up there, and it was led
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  Speaker 4: by doctor Evan Alexander the neurals.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I know Alexander, yep, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so then Geeseman was there too, so and
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  Speaker 4: she's a medium and written books. And so anyway, I
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  Speaker 4: go to this to retreat. All these different synchronousities happen
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  Speaker 4: while I'm there. But the last night of my trip,
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  Speaker 4: a friend of mine just so happened to have a
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  Speaker 4: house in the middle of nowhere, frankly in New York,
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  Speaker 4: and said, why don't you just come over and we'll
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  Speaker 4: catch up. So I go over to his house and
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  Speaker 4: we're eating dinner and watching the movie, and the phone
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  Speaker 4: rings and a family member had called to let him
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  Speaker 4: know that his aunt that he loved so much had
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  Speaker 4: died unexpectedly that day. She had fallen down on pin
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  Speaker 4: of pairs. Oh wow, So I, you know, given my condolence,
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  Speaker 4: but I felt so bad. I go over to the
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  Speaker 4: guests bedroom and I go to sleep. Well. While I
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  Speaker 4: was asleep that night in the astral dream state, Aunt Barbara,
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  Speaker 4: who I didn't know, never met, comes through. I could
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  Speaker 4: see her and telepathically she asked me to tell her
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  Speaker 4: nephew that she was okay and that she had made
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  Speaker 4: it to the other side.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Wake up. The next morning, got to the kitchen deliver
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  Speaker 4: the message to Peter. I describe what she looks like.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where it all started, because I always thought
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  Speaker 4: this was just some of the gifts that were available
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  Speaker 4: to some people or yea on my dad's side of
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  Speaker 4: the family, my grandmother, my great great grandmother. But I
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  Speaker 4: never thought that I was going to be doing this,
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  Speaker 4: Like here I am talking about predictions and connecting with
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  Speaker 4: the other side all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I have love. So it's the women on your dad's
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  Speaker 3: side of the family. It's the women. Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, I do notice it seems to be more
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  Speaker 2: women than I'm finding that i'm meeting. Not saying that
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  Speaker 2: men aren't able to but I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 2: just our makeup, you know, that were more open, We're
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  Speaker 2: more empathic, you know. I don't know why, but it
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  Speaker 2: just seems like the women. I see it more with
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  Speaker 2: women than I see it with men. So it's so
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting that that you got it. So did your
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  Speaker 2: grandmother ever talk to you about her experiences or was
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  Speaker 2: like closed door stuff like we don't talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: We just know grandma has it and you know her
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  Speaker 2: mother had it, you know what I mean kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about it all the time and cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would sit in her living room and her house
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  Speaker 4: and she would tell me she would call it her ESP,
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  Speaker 4: and her nickname for me was Leafy, so she would say, lazy,
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  Speaker 4: I have an ESP. I'm like, well, tell me what
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  Speaker 4: is it. So we would often talk about that, and
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  Speaker 4: then she could actually see full body apperations with her
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  Speaker 4: kids lives. Wow, so she could describe what they look like,
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  Speaker 4: what clothes they were wearing, what color the clothes were,
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  Speaker 4: and as she told me, her grandmother would do the
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  Speaker 4: same thing at the farm that they lived on, and
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  Speaker 4: she would see her husband out working in the field
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  Speaker 4: and he'd come in for dinner and she would tell
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  Speaker 4: him which spirit was working the farm with him that day. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we openly discussed it. So I was interested in all
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  Speaker 4: the spirituals. I remember there was one time when I
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  Speaker 4: was young and she said, I'm getting ESP. I think
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  Speaker 4: you're going to need a stage name one day. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, I was so much younger of taking tap.
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  Speaker 4: Am I gonna be a famous like cap dancer? I
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  Speaker 4: doubt it, right, So uh am I gonna you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was doing acting and like playing some stuffs. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: she's like, I think you should call yourself Delisa del Rey.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, you should practice signing your name and like
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  Speaker 4: I remember all this right. So then years later I
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  Speaker 4: was living in Las Vegas and a haunted hotel had
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  Speaker 4: reached out and asked if, first if I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: work with when they had like news stations and reporters
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  Speaker 4: come in, like what I you know, do readings of
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  Speaker 4: the haunted rooms and things, And then it turned into well,
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  Speaker 4: do you want to have your own stage show at
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  Speaker 4: our haunted hotel? Like absolutely? So I ended up doing it,
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  Speaker 4: and then I called my production company, del Raye Production,
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  Speaker 4: in honor of that prediction that she had made all
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  Speaker 4: those years so fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: So one you had your first experience, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: your angels kind of made sure that you got there
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  Speaker 2: because you were supposed to be there so that you
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  Speaker 2: would have this experience, Like you know, your spirit guys
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  Speaker 2: whatever you know, are like guiding you. Like you're like
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  Speaker 2: I have to go for whatever reason you knew you
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  Speaker 2: had to go. Like since you had that first one,
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  Speaker 2: that did it all of a sudden just start.
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  Speaker 3: Coming to you like that?
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  Speaker 2: Or was it a while? And then another one happened?
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  Speaker 2: Like what how did that like manifest for you?
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  Speaker 4: We were off to the races.
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  Speaker 3: So once the door opened, it was it was wide open.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yes, to the point where I decided to dissolve
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  Speaker 4: the dating and matchmaking company. I quit my job, and
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  Speaker 4: I moved back to Las Vegas for a second time
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  Speaker 4: because I thought, Okay, if people already be interested in readings,
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  Speaker 4: las Vegas is probably a good city to do it in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and my family was there, so I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if I failed miserably, at least i'd know I'd have
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  Speaker 4: a roof and like a hot meal available. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 4: it was from the jump. So even on the flight
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  Speaker 4: home from New York to Texas, my mind was just viraling,
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  Speaker 4: and so I decided that the first thing that I
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  Speaker 4: would do is do it kind of a beta test.
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  Speaker 4: So I had reached out to several people that I
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  Speaker 4: knew but didn't know what was happening in their life
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  Speaker 4: at that time, because social media makes it so easy
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  Speaker 4: to do that. So yeah, I reached out to some
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  Speaker 4: folks and said, you know, I've had this happen to me.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to channel on your energy and just
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  Speaker 4: see what comes up. Are you open to it? And
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  Speaker 4: then I would get there. Yes, I would listen to
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  Speaker 4: Bineural Beats, specifically a company that doctor Alexander is in Karen.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Sacred Acoustics, And they don't even I don't
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  Speaker 4: even think ever heard the story that it all originated
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  Speaker 4: in that one retreat. But anyway, I got back to Texas,
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  Speaker 4: put the Sacred Acoustics meditation on and I would just
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  Speaker 4: write the first name of the person and I would
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  Speaker 4: listen to that, close my eyes and just feel see here,
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  Speaker 4: sense everything, and I would just start writing it down
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  Speaker 4: without sent a guests and any of it. I would
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  Speaker 4: just put it all down on the piece of papers.
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  Speaker 4: Then I would get on the phone with them and
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  Speaker 4: I'd say, don't tell me anything about what's happening with
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  Speaker 4: you right now. Let me get through all of my notes.
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  Speaker 4: And then I want your feedback because I'm this is
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  Speaker 4: a beta test. I want to see if I'm able
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  Speaker 4: to replicate this. And they were like, how do you
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  Speaker 4: know that Dobe knows that about me? So that's where
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  Speaker 4: it started. And then over the year is just a
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  Speaker 4: different you know, certification classes and things like that. But uh,
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  Speaker 4: it's been a full decade of making predictions and communicating
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  Speaker 4: with spirits.
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  Speaker 3: So you do, That's what I was going to ask you.
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  Speaker 2: So you do you're psychically connected, and then you're also
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  Speaker 2: a medium, because not all psychics are mediums and not
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  Speaker 2: all mediums are psychics.
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  Speaker 3: They just so you can do both. Now, when you
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  Speaker 3: are doing a mediumship, what does that look like?
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  Speaker 2: Are you hearing? Are you getting pictures? Are you Because
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  Speaker 2: I know for everybody it's different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And great question, because I think people may assume
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  Speaker 4: that psychics and mediums are kind of one and the same,
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  Speaker 4: But in my experience, mediumship is actually a higher frequency.
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  Speaker 2: We have to get our Now you have to raise
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  Speaker 2: up to meet where they are because they're no longer
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  Speaker 2: in body, so they can't be as dense anymore. We're
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  Speaker 2: so dense, so you have to be able to go
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  Speaker 2: to that frequency.
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I see clairvoyantly first, and usually the
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  Speaker 4: person will show up in front of me, usually about
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  Speaker 4: a few feet off the floor, okay, And so I'll
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  Speaker 4: be able to sense their energy, and then it's more
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  Speaker 4: that I'll be getting imagery and symbols like playing pictionary,
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  Speaker 4: and then I'll hear words and phrases. Yeah. So I've
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  Speaker 4: done a lot of mediumship over the years. One of
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  Speaker 4: my more memorable ones was years ago in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 4: and a woman comes in to see me. I was
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  Speaker 4: working out of the back of a spiritual center and
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  Speaker 4: sits down. She goes, yeah, I found you on Instagram.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, okay, thank you. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know anything. I'm just sitting there tuning in and I
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  Speaker 4: started I have chills even as I start to think
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  Speaker 4: about it. I started seeing the mass shootings that happened
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  Speaker 4: at the concert.
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  Speaker 3: In Las Vegas, and.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have chills going through my whole body right now,
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  Speaker 4: say yeah. And she had come in specifically because she
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  Speaker 4: wanted to see if her friend was okay, because he
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  Speaker 4: got shot and killed at the concerts. And I was
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  Speaker 4: seeing all of these visions that he was having me
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  Speaker 4: look at of like here I was helping this person
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  Speaker 4: and this person. I was doing my best to help
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  Speaker 4: everybody that I could, and I got taken out while
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  Speaker 4: I was trying to help people. And you know, he
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  Speaker 4: brought through information about himself so that she knew that
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  Speaker 4: it really was him coming through. But I had no
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  Speaker 4: intention or idea that I was going to communicate somethody
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  Speaker 4: that had been at the you know, biggest shooting in
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  Speaker 4: modern history. And I remember crying all the way home.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it.
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  Speaker 4: Hitched in a way that it just sticks with you
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  Speaker 4: for years. And there are you know, stories like that
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  Speaker 4: and different premonitions that I've gotten that just are sticky
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  Speaker 4: and you know you hold on to them for a
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  Speaker 4: long time.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I can't imagine how you wouldn't you'd have to
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  Speaker 2: come up with some kind of rituals to sort of
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  Speaker 2: not allow it to stick with you, because if you're
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  Speaker 2: sensitive at all, just watching the news sticks with you. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So if you're actually having this like visceral reaction to
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  Speaker 2: something that you weren't even a part of, because you
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  Speaker 2: can channel now. To do that, it has to be
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  Speaker 2: a lot on you, Like you have to like really
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  Speaker 2: like so do you have do you close the door?
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  Speaker 2: Do you say like like the door shut, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: don't bother me right now, because I imagine you'd get
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  Speaker 2: bothered all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I say, only bring something through outside of working
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  Speaker 4: time if it's something I absolutely need to know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, yeah yeah, and they have Yeah, because you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to be like in the shower or like being
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  Speaker 2: intimate with a partner and then somebody's like standing standy
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  Speaker 2: like goes o't my mind where it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like excuse me, yeah, yeah, like no, no, no, now,
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  Speaker 2: it's not the time, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So it's usually when I've said, okay, we're ready
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  Speaker 4: to work, let's go, and I set that intention and
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  Speaker 4: open that.
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  Speaker 3: The door opens the door. Yeah, that makes that makes sense,
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  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Psychic information will drop in psychically, like if there's something
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  Speaker 4: they're trying to warn me about, you know. I try
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  Speaker 4: to keep that to when I want to do that
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  Speaker 4: kind of work as well. Otherwise like you're just turned on,
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  Speaker 4: you know, psychically when you go into a restaurant or
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  Speaker 4: concert or whatever and it's just way too much. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they'll drop in different things that I need to know,
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  Speaker 4: especially they have to do with like warning me about something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.
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  Speaker 2: Have you gotten any predictions that had come true?
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about something that's already happened.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and then we could talk about maybe if
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  Speaker 2: you feel comfortable and I don't know you there, you
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  Speaker 2: may get some predictions that are scary that you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to share, and I respect that, but like something
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  Speaker 2: that did you had a prediction about and then did happen.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, there's one that comes to mind. Just over about
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  Speaker 4: a year ago. Actually, I had a dream that there
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  Speaker 4: was a crash and I could see a helicopter and
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  Speaker 4: an airplane. And I woke up the next morning and
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  Speaker 4: I got the message to download make a video because
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  Speaker 4: I do a lot of sixty second reels. Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: they said make it. They said make a reel. You
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  Speaker 4: know my spirit team of angels and guys and ancestors.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, and in my pajamas, no makeup on,
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  Speaker 4: and I talk about how I saw this crash and
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  Speaker 4: this airplane helicopter, and anybody can go back on my
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  Speaker 4: Instagram last January and find it. My jamas are like
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  Speaker 4: pink and white. You'll find it. But then, tragically, a
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  Speaker 4: couple of days later was the helicopter airplane crash in Washington,
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  Speaker 4: d DC. So that was one that people had watched
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  Speaker 4: the video when I put it out, and then it happened,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: and then they go, oh my god, and remembered reel
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and actually went back to the reel and were commenting
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: about how I had predicted it. So yeah, I think
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: spirit does that sometimes so that we do to say
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: it out loud, so that people can hear it knowing
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: it's going to happen, and maybe there wasn't anything that
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: could have prevented that. Maybe that was something having to
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: do with the soul contract or you know a lot
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: of different.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you if you've got any
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: messaging in the vision, like why it happened, or was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: one pilot at fall? Was it like you know, was
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it purposeful or you didn't get that you just saw
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the crash.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Well, the weird thing was because nobody really talks about
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that anymore, I know at all. In the dream, I
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: could see a red laser and I'm having chills as
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I say that, which is part of my confirmation. So
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: it makes me feel like going back to a year
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: ago that there was someone at fault for it. But
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: it felt like the laser was coming out of the helicopter.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And I of course don't want to you know, victims
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: lame or anything like that, but but it was weird
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: when I had seen it in the dream and then
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to see all the news headlines come out and people
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: talking about it and searching for survivors. On teaving, I'm like,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: something about this isn't the whole story, Like it just
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: it felt like there was some kind of I don't
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: know helicopters at all to save my life, that maybe
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: somebody in the comments will know what a laser off
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: of a helicopter would be and how that would align
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: with this crash. But I think Spirit wants us to
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: say some of these things out loud because it proves
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: to people that we really do have these gifts and abilities,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: but like they have them.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Too, yeah, and so when they go, oh.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: My gosh, you got that right, it's like, yeah, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: we could get so many other things right if we
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: all like tuned into our own intuition and abilities because
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: we were all born with them.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's where we're going, and I think that's
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: why more of these conversations are happening more YouTube people
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that I follow or are very open about the experiences
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that they have. You know, that whole Telepathy Tapes podcast
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: is just phenomenal and just took off, and I think
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we are moving like that is our next big jump
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in our evolution, to back to where people are going
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to be more telepathic, where we are going to be
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: more psychically connected, because those are those are coming online,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I think everything's coming online. So it makes
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: sense that like if somebody was who maybe is cynical
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: saying well, why did she make a video about it?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Because you know, there's always those people.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Because we're showing you that it's happening, it is real,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: so to have the evidence because people need evidence still, right,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I feel I don't believe you. If you said, oh, yeah,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I know for sure, you know I'm telepathic, I could
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: read so and So's mind, they'd be like, yeah, right,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: sure you are. You know, you have to prove it, right,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: we have to prove it. So that's what I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: is happening.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: I agree. I've been predicting a rise in consciousness where
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: telepathy will be actually more of a method of communication
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: between all people. And I've heard that, yeah that, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: because sometimes we'll feel like, oh yeah, I think you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: my friend's gonna call me, and then they call you
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: that night, you know. But I think that's just going
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to be amplified. But I do think I'm hearing in
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: my ear right now psychically that people will have to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: opt into that, like they have to say like, yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: I'm okay having that ability and using telepathy. So I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: think there could still be kind of somewhat of a
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: split between people that continued to.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Well, because some people are going to be like I
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: want my thoughts to be private, right, so maybe we'll
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: be able you know.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if this will be in
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: my lifetime, but in.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: The future, you'll have a shut off, a turn on,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and a turn off, you know, Like, Okay, right now,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: my thoughts are private, so you know, I don't want
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: people to be able to read my mind and everything
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking all the time, you know, because that does
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: feel like you don't get to have any privacy, So
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that would have to be figured out, right.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so interesting though.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, have you are you familiar with the YouTube channel
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: the wi files?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: No, but I will definitely I will check it out.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, the wi files. Okay, so he is brilliant.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: AJ is the one who does the videos. One of
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: the videos that like still haunts me that he put
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: out was basically that all of the data from everything
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: everywhere all becomes public and he talks about like real
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: things that he investigates. Okay, seeing that like to opt in,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: opt out, and like my thoughts are available or not available?
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Me of that video because I watched it and thought
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: to myself, there will be absolutely no privacy right in
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the future. And basically paraphrasing his episode, like a super
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: computer cracks all of the codes and all the passwords
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: and has access to everything and does whatever it wants
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: with it. And basically you think about that and like
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: all the information that you have about yourself stored in
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: all these different places and text messages you've sent and
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: emails you've sent. Wow, if everything got exposed, I mean,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: if we were all in it together, figure out how
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: to manage that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, you would have to.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: There would have to be some spiritual protections on. Like
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: you said, like you got the they would have.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: To opt in. I kind of feel like that, that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Is, you'd have to opt in to to because because
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: we have free will, right, so if we don't want that,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: then we would have to be able to opt into
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: what is allowed and what isn't allowed. As we're having
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: this human experience, I don't know what happens on the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: other side. I don't remember, you know, I'll remember again
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: when i'm you know there again, you know, Like because
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: because from people who have had near death experiences, they
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: say they know everything.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: All at once, like like.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: From all their loved ones, like everything you know, or
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: they'll have the life view in a flash, like it's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: just it's crazy. It's crazy how how things are are happening.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It is fascinating, it's fascinating.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're living in unprecedented times. I think we all
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: know that. We can feel that, and spirits often referred
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: to it as the dismantling. Right, so we're in it,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: but I don't think we're anywhere near the finish line
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: of the dismantling. And I think that's part of the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: reason why some of us wanted to incarnate right now,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: is so we could witness the dismantling. But I also
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: think a big reason was that we wanted to be
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: a part of the rebuild and what's coming next after
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the dismantling. But the headlines can absolutely look really bad. Yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: But I say all this because I think there's a
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: lot of people that can feel fearful when they when
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: they test different connections or headlines. But I've been shown
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: over and over again like we eventually get to the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: other side of this while we're still alive, and that
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: we will be able to really create new systems, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: that every system is up for either a negotiation or
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: complete collapse and death.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Well, well we're seeing it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you are familiar with astrology
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: at all or if you follow astrology, the astrologers are
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: saying the same thing, you know, like all of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: outer planets, the big, the slower moving planets, are moving
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: into new signs, and that is being witnessed also in
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: a global way, which I find like super interesting. So
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: everything is kind of like going along the way.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: That it's supposed to go.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: So that's why I do my short little videos every
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: day too, is to try to be uplifting because I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: not going to be living in fear. And on that note,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: let's take our break here and then we'll come back.
• 27:03
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• 27:05
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit more about. You're pretty
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: good with your accurate predictions and insights, So do you
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: want to share anything that you see maybe that we
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: should be paying attention for. And this isn't to scare anybody,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you know, We're not the world is not ending in
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I am comfortable saying that Okay, so we're going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: be okay. I know it's hard, but we're gonna be okay.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: But anything like that you want to share that you
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: see maybe coming up this year.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Yes, And I love the preface. It was like, let's
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: not be afraid, like you know, we're we're going to
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: get through this. There have been predictions I've been seeing
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and making around the presidency of the United States, which
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I know is a hot button issue that I'm stepping
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: directly into. Okay because I am politically neutral, but I
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: can't help but see things around the office of that
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: and okay, yeah, that he One of the predictions is
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that he won't finish his term, and that's the office
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: itself of like what it has power over is going
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to be changing as well. And this dovetails into predictions
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I've been seeing about states being rewritten, meaning like when
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you look at the United States and a map in
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: the future, the lines are not going to be the same.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: So it does feel like some of these states that
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: are talking about leaving the Union or forming a bigger
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: state by taking other parts of states and kind of
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: making a bigger one that does feel like it has
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: validity to it because I will just ask a question
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to Spirit and see what comes up. I don't I'm
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: not searching for like a specific answers need to have.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: But it does feel like, and we're seeing in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: headlines right now, even today as we're having this conversation,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: that not only is the United States changing, but we're
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: also looking at whether it's the Panama Canal or what
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: we're going to do with Mexico or Cuba or Greenland.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, so it feels like we're entering this like
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: World War three. I don't know if they're going to
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: exactly call it world War three, but it feels like
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: all different countries, countries are going to be getting involved
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: in fights and who gets what and what does this
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: look like? And so, in other words, what we're seeing
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: even right now, it feels like it amplifies and increases
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: from that. So it feels like we're going to have
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: more wartime. It does also seem to be that real estate.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I get asked a lot about real estate in the
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: stock market, and any time I ask Spirit about it,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: it's always like this, yeah, and I always get it
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: depends on where you live. Not a stock market that
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: not so much, but the real estate, Yes, but they've
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: shown me more and more of the trend will be
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: adults living together like friends, you know, and more multi
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: generational families. So it feels like even the way that
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: we live together is going to shift where there will
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: be more people living under one roof, and there will
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: be some people that will want to opt out of
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: some of the things that are coming, like digital currency
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: that I've seen that will want to go off and
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: basically live off grid. And I've seen these like tiny
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: home villages that people are going to be making small communities.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I've hearn about people forming these, yeah, living off the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: earth and planting and building more communities.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I'm hooked on YouTube videos about earthships. Have you ever
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: seen an earthship?
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: No?
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay why files and earthships We're going
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: to get you on.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, no, that sounds really fascinating.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Earthships. So as communities that like live in these like like.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Little villages and then they have their own little ecosystem
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: kind of thing going, is that what they do?
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Da? So an earthship is self sustained home, so oh okay,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: inside the home, it will basically do all of the
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: things that needs to do without relying on other systems.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: See, that's an amazing advancement that down the line. Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: that is that's incredible. See so people are like freaking
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: out right.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: It's like, these are some amazing advances and we need
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: the discourse.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: We need the contrast, because that's what is the archer
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: that pulls us back to shoot forward to go into
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the new direction is Unfortunately we haven't learned to do
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: it without contrast and problems and conflict.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Hopefully well.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: One day, one day. But the worships are really interesting
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: because they tend to use a lot of materials that
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: were already once used, and they use a lot of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: used tires to build like the walls of what becomes
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: the walls of these homes, and then a section of
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the house is usually all like vegetation where they're growing
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: their own their own food.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: They're amazing.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: To just look up earthships, I will, I will, because
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: now I want to see what one looks like. No,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: that sounds really really fascinating. And we were talking about
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the dismantling. I mean it's in the astrology. That is
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: why other countries are you know, the United States was
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: always the most formidable, right, Like it was the powerhouse
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and the power was not equal. And so what's happening
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is power dynamics are shifting, so there's going to be.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: A lot more of that stuff going on. I am act.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Very very and I'm super liberal, right, so I'm like,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about politics because I have
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of fire in my sign.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a Gemini with a double leo.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So I'll get mad, right, And I don't want to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: be in that energy because I feel it. I'm so
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: passionate about certain things then, and I don't want that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I'll get clicked a lot more if
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I start talking like those kind of headlines.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: But I don't want to do that. That's not where
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: my soul is telling me.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: That is not where you're supposed to go. You're supposed
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: to be more uplifting. Have these kinds of conversations, introduce
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: people different people to like, that's like what my my
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: job is, you know, Like I am the introducer of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: ideas of people to different ways of thinking, right in
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: a more healthy, high frequency way, because believe me, I
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: could go that way and I would just be mad
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: I would be mad you know, and I don't want
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, true story. Thinking about the astrology, so Saturday
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Neptune areas, you know, I've just kind of been sitting
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: with it and I had a recent conversation with my
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: astrologer friend Scott Jerry, and it feels like there's for me,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of people going through identity crisis this year. Yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: it feels like who, like who am I? Why am
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I here? And spirit when I've channeled on it has
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: connected it to jobs and the change of employment and
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the people that And I've been there where you walk
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: into the room at a networking event and you're so excited,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: like and at your business cards you're like, Hi, I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: so and so and I work at that place and
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: this is what I do. There's like, yeah, we're going
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: to have some problems with that because what people are
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: doing for work now isn't necessarily what they're going to
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: be doing or what we're being able to do depending
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: on the industry. And that, you know, ties directly into
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: AI and becoming more efficient with AI. And they've also
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: shown me while we're on AI that what we'll be
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: able to treat and diagnose at home in terms of
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: healthcare is going to shift so that we will be
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: able to have more power of diagnostics at home. Like
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I know there's some simple gadgets we can have now,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: but this feels more like we become the champion and
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: ambassador of ourselves and our own health, and that we
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: would have the tools at home to figure out so
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: whether it's like a prick of blood and then we yeah,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: you know, but then they show like almost going and
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: so of a chamber that has like sound and light
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: special frequencies. And some people what I've sai because I've
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: said this before, people are like, that sounds like a
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: med bed. Like I don't even know what a med
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: bed sounds like, but okay, so people have drawn from
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: comparisons to that. So that feels like that in the
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: energy and coming forward. But I've also seen new kinds
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: of ubers that are like big drones that you sit
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: inside of, and it's for more local travel. So instead
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: of taking a helicopter, you would get in this thing
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: that pulls up. My it feels like your house when
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I've channeled on it, and then it goes up and
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: it takes you and then it sets you back down.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: But it's not using the regular road. So I do
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: think flying cars is legit.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Well, you know that's very Uranus and Gemini and Urinus asty.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Gemini and Gemini rules short travel, and and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Uranus is like, that's that energy. So I've heard astrologers
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: talk about air travel changing dramatically when your Gemini Uranus
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is in Gemini. So it's funny that you said that.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Just made me think of that, so it'd be interesting.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So if you guys here, if this happens, you know
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you heard it here first.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I think we'll be using different modes
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: like that in our local communities, but then more of
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: the telepathy and virtual reality AI for like how we're
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: communicating with people outside of our local community. Because when
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: you just mentioned travel, I just got the psychic hit
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: of even the aviation system is going to drastically change me.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Like it feels in the energy. It feels very very heavy.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: And I know there's been you know, different issues, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: you know we can all read about in the news,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: but it feels like the future of it feels almost
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: like a big bold or a big rock, like a
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: big dinosaur. So I think it will be one of
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: the systems that will be overhauled or not not available anymore.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I remember hearing I don't remember. I can't source where
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I heard this from, but someone had said that flying
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: become something that only certain people do and that it's
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: for like certain situations or circumstances, but then not everyone
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: would be flying, that it would be like reserved for
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: certain people. So yeah, I just popped in as as
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: we were talking about ABA.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe that's one of the timelines that's pile
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: depending on what we do and what we demand as
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: a you know, collective, right, because I was going to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: ask you about so you tapped on that, and I
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: was going to ask you about the the oligarchs. You know,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: so there's the money, the wealth has grown, disparency between
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: those two uber rich and you know everybody else. It's
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: like grown tremendously in the last decade. So what do
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: you see about that whole you know, the tech go
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: bros and all the billionaires, like they want to own everything.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: You know, they want to charge you for you know,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: your water. They want they just want to own everything,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Like they don't want the government to own anything and
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: get any kind of services we have to pay them.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: What do you see about that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: One of the things I've seen as I've channeled is
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: we actually get back to a more simpler time.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I have chills coming up my legs that allowed.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Now I know that could stir people up to be like,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: what do you mean we're going back to simpler times?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: But it does feel like there's so many things that
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: are dismantling and so many things that are broken and
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: not working that we are going to be faced with
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you and me and each other and who we live
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: near and what we're doing. And it makes me wonder
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: if and I haven't been shown it yet, but I
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: wonder if there's some kind of black Squan events that
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: takes out the internet, takes out power grids, because that's
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: what the visions look like, is like the aftermath after
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: we like settle down and we're okay and we get
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: over the initial shock, which feels much simpler. But that
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: based on where we're at today and getting me all
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: the way over into that other vision that would say
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: to me that there would have to be some kind
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: of yeah events that happens.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I would have to be in the event.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen nuclear threat, but I haven't seen nuclear
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: going off. Yeah, And Actually that came in a couple
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: of days ago, right before the headlines hit about Russia
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: having a threat against parts of the UK.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I don't know if you are one of
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: the people that like connect with the ets or do
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: you do you connect that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I've heard from many people who channel.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: That alien dimension that a nuclear event would never happen
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: because they would never allow it to happen because we're
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: not the only planet in the Solar system, and it
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: would affect the Solar system and other Solar systems, So
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't work like they would do something would happen.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: It would just they would get ready to do it
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and it wouldn't work. You know, it just couldn't happen.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: So I didn't know if you had that similar kind
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of feeling, you know, that like that's the one area
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: that they will step in if it looks like we're
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: going too far.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I've heard reports of that in you know, in the past,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: of them stopping weapons that looked like they were going
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: to be deployed or you know, getting closer to that.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: When I did get the download about the nuclear threat,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: there was another piece of it about galactics interfering, so
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: that it wouldn't go off. But it does also make
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: me wonder. I keep a very loose eye on solar flares.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're having a big one right now.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: They're like like huge, like one of the biggest solar
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: storms or G five or something, and that is affecting
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: our that could knock out grids and technology and all
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I heard that.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if we had some kind
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: of solar flare that did actually take out power grids,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: because it keeps like coming in the back of my
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: mind of like watch this. Pay attention to You're.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Not the only person who said that, and you're not
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the only person who said watch this. And and I'm
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: from psychics to astrologers to people who are just sensitive,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: like I've heard this many many times. Yeah, so that
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is something to be you know, like.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: We're so used to I mean, Verizon.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I heard somebody said Verizon went out for like a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: whole day, and people have Verizon are like I had
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: no idea. I used my phone as much as I did,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And it's not the talk, it's just for everything we
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: use it now so much. So yeah, we would have
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: to learn how to function like we used to we
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: used to.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: I mean I.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Remember, I remember too. I had, you know, the rotary
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: phone at my parents' house. I have you there in
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: life like all the you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Know, have you ever seen the video of the gen Zers?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: The kids they give them that phone and they're like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: all right, now you try to figure out how to
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: work it and they're like pushing it and they're like
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: They're just hilarious.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just a whole different generation.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Well is there?
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: What about.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Like, like you said something about jobs and with the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: AI and I want to go back to that.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: So do you think that people are.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Going to find ways to kind of like reinvent themselves
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: and come up with creative ways of life offering like
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: you know, they're unique gifts, like to make money. Now
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I can't companies anymore. Like what do you
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: see is going to.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Happen with that?
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I think on an individual level, we actually will have
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of windows and a lot of doors open,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: and we will be able to create and do really
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: incredible things on an individual level. So that's the one
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: thing that people here today, I'd say it's going to
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: be okay, You're going to be able to make it
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: through this. I think the tighter you hold on to control,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: harder this is going to be. But I do think
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: that even if somebody were to lose their job and
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: they had to figure out what to do next, I
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: think most people will be resourceful and I think they
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: will come up with an idea that they want to try,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: and I would say try it, like, go for it.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: How exciting. But if you get laid off for your job,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: you know, changes into something else that you don't want
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: to do, and you're forced to go back to the
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: sting cable, that could be a part of that identity
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: crisis of well who am I now? And I actually
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: think that could be a really beautiful gift because it
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: gets us back to our own core self, our own energy.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: You know how amazing we actually are and what we
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: can create just within ourselves. And I think as soon
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: as a lot of people over the years give their
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: power away, give their power away to people or people's
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: opinions or you know, the news headlines that they're reading,
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: so I think it could be a really abundant time
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: if are leaning into our creativity and if we believe
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: in opportunity and possibility and the universe working things out
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: and we can. I think it'd be a really fruitful times.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: But I think we're also going to see the opposite
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: of that, and it could be people in our own
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: you know, friends and family circle. Yeah, but Spirit has
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: been very clear that it is not our opportunity to
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: carry them or to pick them up to try to
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: convince them to do the work. Like they either need
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: to decide that they're going to do that in our
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: work or not, but that's not to us anymore to
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: try to convince them to do it.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because we do
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time worrying about other people and
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: trying to change, you know, and everybody's on their own journey.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: You know, we're all going to get there eventually on
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: our own. So you just got to right, you got
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: to take care of yourself right now. What do you
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: think about mainstream media? What do you think is going
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to happen with mainstream media? Because I noticed more and
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: more people are going to YouTube are alternative ways to
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: find the real stories, the real news because we're not
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: being told the full story.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that mainstream media?
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Eventually it will be gone?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how I'm going to Yeah, that's one in the dismantling,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I think in the dismantling, yeah, yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, And so I think it will go back to
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: independent reporters and journalists and content creators really on YouTube,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I think primarily. And I've also been seeing quite frankly,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: more and more that people are saying, I don't even
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: want to be on social media anymore. I don't want
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: to look at it anymore. Yeah. So I think there's
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: a real all away from social media, not just like
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take a thirteen break, like it's like
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be on it, right. Yeah. I
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: think even like big social media platforms that we all
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: use right now, I don't think they're going to be
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: the same because I think more and more people don't
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: want to be on them. But I do think YouTube
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: if I had to kind of look at all and
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I'm not on TikTok because I've tuned into the energy
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: of TikTok and.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on it, I'm on it, but I don't.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't keep my like my YouTube visitor.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I want to build my platform because I don't trust TikTok.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: And I just put this similar I put the same
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff out. If TikTok disappears, it's okay. But
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I feel the same way. There's something about that that platform.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: That doesn't feel stable to me. Yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so YouTube out of all of them, feels to
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: be the steadiest one out of all of them. So
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I want to talk about because I
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: can't believe we could keep going.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: We only have like a few minutes.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: But how do you you have two Well, talk about
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of your own YouTube that you do, right, two of
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: your own channels or two shows that you do, And
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about how people can work with
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: you if they want to work with you.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's two micro podcasts.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: On okame channel, Okay.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: They're each like five minutes long, okay. And one is
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: called the Curious Question, which is just one question to
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: sit with for the week to do some self exploration.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: And the other one is called Books That Shift.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Us, where I take a book okay that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Self help or spiritual that I love, and I do
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: like a five minute discussion about the book and how
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: to work with the book and apply what's I love
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: that your own life?
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta follow.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I'm such a book nerd, So I gotta I gotta
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: go check that one out.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those come out on Thursdays and the Curious Question
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: comes out on Sundays.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, uh yeah.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: And everything that I do is over on my website
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: and that spirit and spark dot Com all spelled out,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and I've got my socials and everything on there.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So do you see do you do classes, community classes,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: do you hold workshops?
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Do you see one on one? How do you like
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: to work with people? Or all three?
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Right now, it's more group and classes. But I
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: am developing something right now that is going to be
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: a one on one experience and so I'll probably put
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: out information on that in the next few weeks. So
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: anybody on my email list will we'll get that alert.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, good, yeah, so join her email list? Yeah, because
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I imagine, especially if you can connect with people who
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: have passed over, you would get a lot of people that.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Want to connect with their loved ones, you know, And I.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Would love to teach them how to fish right instead
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: of hand them the fish. That's where I am right now.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: I have a class that's Mediumship one oh one oh,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: and it's on demand. They can take it immediately, and
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: then the other one is angel message of the numbers,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: and then we have another one that is thirty three
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: signs from the other side.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: Oh fun.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Oh those sound amazing. I love that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I started having I've talked about it before, but my
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: sister who passed away three and a half years ago,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I do this meditation. It's kind of a visual visualization
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I do every morning. And she started showing up about
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: a year after she died, and I see her every morning,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: which is really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I get to see.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Her and she she was developmentally disabled, and she's still
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: up like that. For me, she hasn't I still need
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: her to be who she was, Like, she hasn't changed that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Like I know her spirit's not that but but Tony
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: still shows up that way for me because I.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: Need her to and I know she does it for me,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's really cool though, but I get to
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: see her every day. Yeah, yeah, it's it's great. So
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I love that you teach people how to.
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: Do that, yeah, because I, like I said, rather teach
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: them how to finish so they can Yeah, as long
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: as they need to whenever they need you, and they
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: don't have to rely on exactly whenever they want.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: And think about how beautiful that is and how comforting
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: that is. And I heard a psychic talk medium talking
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: about that that one day we're going to be that
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: we're going to be able to go to our frequency
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: up so high that we are going to be able
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: to meet our loved ones, and that's just so beautiful,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I love it. Well, it has been such
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: a pleasure having you as Lisa. Thank you so much
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: for joining me today. It was it was really great
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: to talk to you.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you, Melissa. I appreciate you having me
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: on the show and hopefully we get to do it
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: again soon.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I go check her out spirit inspark dot com.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody, thank you so much for being here
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: and listening to postcards to the universe with Melissa creating
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: the life you crave. And I'm wishing everyone a wonderful
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: week filled with joy, abundance and love.
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: Peace.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Oh